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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, everybody, it's your girl. Srika fostera Brasby,

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Speaker 3: what's up, y'all?

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Speaker 2: It's your girl Cheryl Swoops And.

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Speaker 3: This is a levels to this. This is the show

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Speaker 3: where we talk about all the shit that women go through,

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Speaker 3: and we really do have an interesting episode for you today. However,

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Speaker 3: before we get into that, I gotta say hey to

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Speaker 3: my boo, Cheryl, because you know, last week I had

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Speaker 3: to do this little thing without you, and I felt

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Speaker 3: the way. I was like, oh my god, my girl

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Speaker 3: is not here. I don't know what's happening. So welcome back. A.

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Speaker 2: Did you miss me?

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Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 1: I's I always miss you, girl. I was trying to

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Speaker 1: get my coin.

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Speaker 3: You and was I am at at.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to get my coins. But I'm good.

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Speaker 3: You know what that is what we call on an

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Speaker 3: excused absence. That is an.

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Speaker 2: Excuse thank you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't need a note or nothing, no nothing, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I am m.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just probably like everybody else, just stressing

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Speaker 1: over you know, life and this world and all the

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Speaker 1: things that's going on.

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Speaker 2: So other than that, I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep my my my mental where I

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Speaker 1: can keep it and still function, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to keep it ground level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. I am. I can't even yeah, because

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Speaker 2: I can't even look at surface level in above. I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying to keep it ground level.

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Speaker 3: Just trying to keep your ground level. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: got a question. I had a question for you in

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Speaker 3: a minute, but it's in a minute. No now, no now, okay.

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Speaker 2: So can I give you my butt?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: How about my grandson is eight months old?

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Speaker 2: Hasn't really been that long?

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Speaker 1: Yes, girl, he is footing, crawling, probably crawling faster than

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Speaker 1: I can walk.

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Speaker 2: He is going to be walking soon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only a matter of time at this way.

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Speaker 1: And I'm feeling some type of way because I'm missing

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Speaker 1: all of his.

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Speaker 3: First Oh that's right, they're still wait that they're still

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Speaker 3: like the season is still going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still in Tunisia. They're in the playoffs right now.

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Speaker 1: And I am gonna say shout out to my kid

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Speaker 2: Is bowling and I like that.

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Speaker 3: Go Jordan, Jordan, Go Jordan. But I'm still not over

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Speaker 3: that baby being eight months old. I feel like just

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Speaker 3: yesterday he was born, Tarika.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait look look, oh my, look at the chicks. Girl.

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Speaker 2: Do the cheeks not look like the basketball? You see

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Speaker 2: the basketball? The chicks not look like the basket? Y? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah. I just I just cried. Okay, wait, last one,

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Speaker 2: last one, last one. I got to show you this

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Speaker 1: This is one I was like, Oh my gosh, he's

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he walking and dribbling. That's what he's gonna

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Speaker 2: Look, he's just so cute.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, when chewing on me in something he

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Speaker 3: I need him to go play football, baseball. I was

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Speaker 2: Break the ball. Ill, No, we're not doing that.

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Speaker 3: Let this family starting to branch off into Look, you

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Speaker 3: be there. Period black period regards whatever. You gotta just

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Speaker 2: How about gonna be the president? He do a better job?

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Speaker 3: What he could do a better job right now and

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Speaker 5: Got going on?

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Speaker 3: Its mess?

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I'm so sick of Texas. I'm

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Speaker 1: Because I did all my early voting because and you

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be difficult, but.

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Speaker 3: Uh but I did hear because the issues was that

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Speaker 2: But Tea, here's my thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all those things I read I heard, are we surprised? No,

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Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up. Yes, yes, this is the type

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Speaker 3: Happening right now in the United States of America in

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Speaker 3: the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's real.

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Speaker 3: It's real. That is wild voter.

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Speaker 2: Suppression, all the things, like, all that shit is real.

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Speaker 3: It is so real. And you know what, I'm really

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Speaker 3: happy that we have the perfect guest today. Not happy

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Speaker 3: happy that we have someone joining us on today's episode

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait to get into it with her. We

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Speaker 3: I'm just excited to talk to her about all things.

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Speaker 3: But it's just it's just incredible the ridiculousness that like

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Speaker 3: it's to the point where I'm not even surprised anymore.

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Speaker 1: No, like I'm not even surprised, You're not surprised, but

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Speaker 3: So anyway, let's just go ahead and take this to

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Speaker 3: on today's show. We always have some great, incredible guests,

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Speaker 3: but and I know I'll always be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about today, but I'm never lying, like

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Speaker 3: just as excited about our guest today. Originally heiling from

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Speaker 3: president of politics for Votes Save America and Crooket Media.

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Speaker 3: Please make some noise, shout it out black women represent

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Speaker 3: because we are the bomb. For our girl, Shinnika McClinton.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, hi, And you know, excitingly, I got a

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Speaker 5: promotion recently, so now I am a senior vice president

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Speaker 5: of political strategy. Come on now, I wasn't updated, but

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Speaker 5: come on now.

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Speaker 2: That needs to be updated, ma'am.

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Speaker 5: I just put it on link in today.

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Speaker 2: That is congratulation.

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Speaker 3: Congratulation.

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Speaker 1: You said it about black women, and I don't y'all

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Speaker 1: can't say this, but I wore this hat in honor

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Speaker 1: of you. Yes, and it says black women are really everything.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes are. Let's go during Black History months.

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Speaker 5: Come on, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I love that. That's how you start a show. Come

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Speaker 3: on with some news, right, Like I don't like for,

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Speaker 3: you know, to start a show. No, you come on

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Speaker 3: with that good news early, because that's exactly what we love.

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Speaker 3: So shout out, miss senior vice president. I love that.

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Speaker 3: And let's start there right because it took some time

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Speaker 3: to get to the level that you currently are, right.

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Speaker 3: I know, we kind of all make it seem like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Barack Obama's election was really.

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Speaker 2: Pivotal for me just by you saying that name, but.

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Speaker 5: So many things and Okay, now I'm like bringing too

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Speaker 5: my senior year. That's when Barack Obama got elected. I

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Speaker 5: got interested in politics, but Donald Trump's why I stayed

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Speaker 5: I think I'll be here forever now. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: that's why we have to have these moments of like

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Speaker 2: Listen, Well, you passing that flyers made a difference?

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Speaker 1: You said Barack Obama is the reason why you got

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Speaker 2: People didn't vote for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 5: So it's even though we've been here for ten years,

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Speaker 1: You can't say that she's too emotional or a woman

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Speaker 2: About dumb stuff.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, though, I want to kind of

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Speaker 3: starting to backtrack and starting to say, first one that

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Speaker 3: obviously comes to mind is MAJORI Taylor Green, and I

440
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Speaker 3: ain't really got much for her, but I am hoping

441
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Speaker 3: that the people who are in congressional seats, knowing that

442
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Speaker 3: this is a midterm election year, that this can be

443
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Speaker 3: that thing that those who have the voting power can

444
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Speaker 3: start to kind of flip some of these things. You

445
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 3: have worked in Capitol Hill and within Congress, so you've

446
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: kind of got an idea of how these people see

447
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: things and view things and understanding the power that they possess,

448
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Speaker 3: but why they still may make decisions to not do

449
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Speaker 3: a certain thing. We've been trying to figure out forever

450
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Speaker 3: what has been Congress's reasoning for not following through with

451
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Speaker 3: the removal of impeachment. We've been trying to figure out

452
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Speaker 3: forever why are we still having these continual government shut

453
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Speaker 3: downs because people are refusing to go on the other

454
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Speaker 3: side of the aisle and work on bipartisan policy. We

455
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Speaker 3: understand how politics work in that way, but given what

456
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Speaker 3: we are starting to see now, do you believe that

457
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Speaker 3: there will be a shift in congressional seats that could

458
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Speaker 3: actually move the country in a different direction after twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, even before we get to the election.

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Speaker 5: One thing I know about the people the members of

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Speaker 5: Congress on Capitol Hill, the number one thing that they

463
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Speaker 5: are worried about is being re elected. And that has

464
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Speaker 5: been especially on the Republican side. That is what's been

465
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Speaker 5: driving I think a lot of their decision making. And

466
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Speaker 5: so when Donald Trump is popular with the base and

467
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Speaker 5: people are showing up for him, they want to do

468
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Speaker 5: whatever he wants because they're afraid that he's going to

469
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Speaker 5: get someone to challenge them in a primary and then

470
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Speaker 5: they'll never get to a general election where they need

471
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Speaker 5: to not be as extreme. But they're more so focused

472
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Speaker 5: on getting making sure that they don't get beat by

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Speaker 5: a fellow Republican who's willing to go even further than

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Speaker 5: they are. You look at someone like Lindsay Graham who

475
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Speaker 5: used to hate I mean most of these Republicans used

476
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Speaker 5: to hate Donald Trump. They used to say how awful

477
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Speaker 5: he was, you know, even his vice president. And now

478
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 5: because they're either afree of who's in reelection or someone

479
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Speaker 5: like JD. Van's who I mean, Look, I'm an ambitious person.

480
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Speaker 5: I'm not that ambitious that I will completely like change

481
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Speaker 5: who I am what I think, you know, talk about

482
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Speaker 5: immigrants in the way that he does when his wife's

483
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Speaker 5: parents are immigrants. It's just and but then you think

484
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Speaker 5: about just an indoctrination of people of color because she's

485
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Speaker 5: sitting there along for the ride, about to have another

486
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Speaker 5: kid with him, and so it's just it's it's it's crazy.

487
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Speaker 5: But I think what I think with the elections coming

488
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Speaker 5: and a lot of Donald Trump's base starting to kind

489
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Speaker 5: of smell what's really going on now, you're starting to

490
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Speaker 5: see Republicans say, oh, I didn't like that. Look at

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Speaker 5: the video of that he posted with the President Obama

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Speaker 5: and First Lady Obama. You had a lot of Republicans.

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Speaker 5: I was actually surprised how many of them. Yeah, condemned that,

494
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Speaker 5: but I don't actually have faith that they did it

495
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Speaker 5: because they were offended. They are thinking about their re

496
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Speaker 5: election and the ad that might be run, and largely

497
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Speaker 5: the Republican Party saw games with black people in twenty

498
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Speaker 5: twenty four, and like, how do you maintain that when

499
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Speaker 5: you are just being overtly racist. They're not even trying

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Speaker 5: to hide it anymore, so they're trying to distance themselves.

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Speaker 5: But as far as the midterms, I do think we

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Speaker 5: are going to see a shift. You know, I can't

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Speaker 5: predict anything, but people are so frustrated right now. And

504
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Speaker 5: when people see what's going on with Ice, people who

505
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Speaker 5: voted for this, even then they say they didn't. They

506
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Speaker 5: now have to contend with the kind of person they

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Speaker 5: are and the kind of person who took that vote.

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Speaker 5: And it's like, am I going to stick with this

509
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Speaker 5: or back away from it? And there are some people

510
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 5: who try not to do that. I told you something,

511
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Speaker 5: but like they are finally they are slowly getting to

512
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Speaker 5: a point of realizing that maybe they were tricked again.

513
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Speaker 5: I think that's convenient. I think we all had the

514
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Speaker 5: same information. But they're starting to shift away. I think

515
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 5: it's too late, though, for a lot of congressional Republicans especially,

516
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 5: it's not just the hatred. It's the economy. It's really bad.

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Speaker 5: And you had all these Republicans saying, oh, this is great,

518
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Speaker 5: tarists are great, like all of this is great. Healthcare

519
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: subsidies expiring. A lot of those subsidies are in very

520
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Speaker 5: red districts that are very poor, and now you are

521
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Speaker 5: telling them they don't get to have their benefits anymore,

522
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Speaker 5: and so all of this is coming back on them.

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Speaker 5: And you see congressional Republicans, particularly in the House, trying

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Speaker 5: to like have a little vote here, have a little

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Speaker 5: vote there. But when people are missing out on those

526
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Speaker 5: kinds of benefits, you can't just tinker around the edges.

527
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Speaker 5: You have to actually be doing something. So I do

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Speaker 5: think Democrats will win the House. They need a big

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Speaker 5: margin to actually, you know, have the hearings they want,

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Speaker 5: past the legislation they want. But I don't know what

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Speaker 5: will happen in the Senate. But I feel much better

532
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Speaker 5: than I did a year ago about Democrats' ability to

533
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Speaker 5: take the Senate because again, people are hurting and they're

534
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Speaker 5: seeing American citizens be murdered. Even if they were supportive

535
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Speaker 5: of mass deportations, they did not. Now this, I will

536
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Speaker 5: give them if you didn't think that they would be

537
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Speaker 5: killing American citizens, but they are because the kinds of

538
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Speaker 5: people who get recruited into Ice right now, when there's

539
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Speaker 5: no rules and no standards, these are not people who

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Speaker 5: need guns.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no whatsoever. So it's bad out there. So

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Speaker 1: you mentioned midterms, and a lot of people are saying,

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Speaker 1: with everything that's going on right you got Ice, Trump

544
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Speaker 1: threatening to enact on the Insurrection Act and just.

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Speaker 2: All the stuff that's going on. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: are saying, we may not.

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Speaker 1: Have midterm What do you think about that.

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Speaker 5: I think we're gonna have that. I think we're gonna

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00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 5: have midterms. And again back to what we're just talking about.

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Speaker 5: You have Republicans who Donald Trump's out here saying the

551
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 5: federal government is going to take over these elections. But

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00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 5: you have Republicans who are getting nervous about that. They

553
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 5: know things are already shaky, so they can't just stand

554
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 5: behind him with that, who are saying absolutely not. And

555
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: it's just crazy because Republicans are the party who's always

556
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: talking about states rights and now you have Donald Trump

557
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 5: trying to go in and take those rights away. But

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Speaker 5: what I will say is I think we're gonna I

559
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 5: feel very confident we will have midterm elections. But you know,

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Speaker 5: I do think there's a concern. I think there's a

561
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 5: concern with if the election doesn't go the way he wants,

562
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Speaker 5: what is he going to do. We already saw what

563
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Speaker 5: happened on you know, January sixth and twenty twenty one,

564
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Speaker 5: and I know there's a lot of people who are like,

565
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 5: stop telling me to vote. Voting is not the only

566
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Speaker 5: thing that we'll fix all of this, but it has

567
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Speaker 5: to be one of the things that we are doing,

568
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 5: because every time people sit out and say it doesn't matter,

569
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 5: they get more and more powered. And I don't just

570
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: mean elected seats. Every time someone disengages from our process,

571
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Speaker 5: that means that they have fewer people to kind of

572
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 5: convince to be on their side, and they don't have

573
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Speaker 5: a real opposition. And so voting is part of demonstrating

574
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: that opposition. But so is showing up at protests, so

575
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Speaker 5: is participating in mutual aid and making sure that the people

576
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 5: in your community are okay. There's a lot of things

577
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: that people can do, but voting is also how we

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00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: got here, or a lack thereof. You know, one of

579
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 5: my friends, he will never he'll just sometimes be on

580
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Speaker 5: Twitter and just get frustrated all over again. About twenty sixteen,

581
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 5: when people were saying it doesn't matter, you know, they're

582
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Speaker 5: the same and all of that, and like, literally we

583
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: are here right now because Donald Trump got elected in

584
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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. He has chosen three Supreme Court justices. You know,

585
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: it's just it's all intertwined. And so when people sayvoting

586
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: doesn't matter, there's so many other things tied to voting,

587
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: and it's literally why we're here right now. It's why

588
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 5: ICE has all this money to go into these places.

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Speaker 2: Point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just all connected.

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Speaker 3: One. It's there are so many things that are connected

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Speaker 3: in the political landscape. And when we come back, we

593
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Speaker 3: will talk more with Senior Vice President. Shouldn't build m

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Speaker 3: Clinton's stay tuned. You know. One of the things that

595
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Speaker 3: I often put on I probably shouldn't, but I don't

596
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Speaker 3: give a fuck. I'll do it anyway. But one of

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Speaker 3: the things that I usually put out here in the

598
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Speaker 3: street is that there's a playbook that's being followed, right

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Speaker 3: And if you pay attention, and if you are somewhat

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Speaker 3: of a person who follows history and understands history, or

601
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Speaker 3: at least understand world politics, then you understand exactly what

602
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Speaker 3: playbook it is that I'm referring to. And as I

603
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: look at our government, specifically Donald Trump, the things that

604
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Speaker 3: he does, the things that he nacts the first in

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Speaker 3: every the playbook that I am specifically referring to as

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Speaker 3: mind Camp, which is Adolf Hitler's book that he wrote

607
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Speaker 3: his biography, and there are parts of this book in

608
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Speaker 3: how he was able to take over Germany to create

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Speaker 3: this Nazi party and get people to buy in to

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Speaker 3: the rhetoric that he sold is so similar to what

611
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Speaker 3: I see day today that is happening. Then Netflix a

612
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Speaker 3: few years ago decided to create this show called How

613
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Speaker 3: to Create a Tyrant? Right, And in this particular episode

614
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: he talks about, I mean, Flick goes through this documentary

615
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Speaker 3: thing of all of these well known tyrants throughout history,

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Speaker 3: and again the playbook remains the same, right in each

617
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Speaker 3: and every one of them, and it becomes so incredibly

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00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: scary that now, not only have you made people comfortable

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Speaker 3: with their evil, not only have you made people believe

620
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Speaker 3: that folks that don't look like you and think like

621
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: you are also evil and need to be handled or

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Speaker 3: dealt with, but you are starting to change policies of

623
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Speaker 3: basic freedoms and Congress has not stepped up to stop

624
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Speaker 3: any of it, things like most recently seeing Don Lemon

625
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Speaker 3: being arrested when freedom of press is clearly right there

626
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: sitting in that amendment, like it just just sitting right

627
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Speaker 3: there right yep.

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Speaker 2: How how scared?

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Speaker 3: And I mean, and I don't mean this to be

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Speaker 3: like a frightening kind of thing, because my goal here

631
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Speaker 3: is not to scare anybody, but it is to be

632
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 3: honest and to be true about how serious should people

633
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: be taking the things that we are seeing with that

634
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 3: conversation of folks not wanting to vote or folks not

635
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: wanting to participate in the political process. But as you

636
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: are seeing basic everyday freedoms be taken away in a

637
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: way that is very similar to how we ended up

638
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Speaker 3: with a or how we have historically seen dictatorships begin.

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00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: How scared should the American public be if they do

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00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: not begin to exercise their civic and political engagement?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I mean, we're like, you know, there has been

642
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: a lot of conversation at least when Donald Trump was

643
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: first reelected about you know, not marching toward authoritarianism, but

644
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 5: like we're in We're in.

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Speaker 2: It, We're in it, We're there.

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Speaker 5: People should be afraid. I mean, I thought the first

647
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: term was bad, thinking back to the Black Lives Matter

648
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Speaker 5: protests where he had them, you know, to your gas

649
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Speaker 5: he comes out, you know, for his little Bible photo

650
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Speaker 5: op at the chart, you know, and now we're seeing

651
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Speaker 5: Ice is essentially his like personal little army that he

652
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 5: is sending out to keep people in order. They have

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Speaker 5: masks on what law enforcement in this country is permitted

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Speaker 5: to go into communities with guns and masks and do

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Speaker 5: whatever they want. And you know, to Don Lemon being arrested,

656
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Speaker 5: that is I mean, it's our first amendment, the freedom

657
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Speaker 5: of speech, you know, and yes, and so we we

658
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 5: should be really scared. Is particularly with Don Lemon, two

659
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: judges refuse to you know, bring those charges against him,

660
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Speaker 5: and they still went forward. And I'm hopeful that you know,

661
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: this won't go anywhere. But the fact that they are

662
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: trying to silence anyone who would dare cover them, it's like,

663
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: what are you hiding? And look at all the things

664
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 5: we've seen in the news, imagine what we are not seeing.

665
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: I mean, we still even have all of the Epstein

666
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 5: files out, and for Donald Trump to have worked as

667
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Speaker 5: hard as he has to keep all of that under

668
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Speaker 5: lock and key, God only knows what's in there. But

669
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Speaker 5: on top of that, they have like rated you know,

670
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Speaker 5: the amount of money that him and his family have

671
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 5: made off of him being in the presidency, like all

672
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Speaker 5: of this corruption. But they are using violence to keep

673
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Speaker 5: people quiet. They are using the full weight of the

674
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Speaker 5: government to keep people quiet. And I know that there's

675
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Speaker 5: probably a lot of people who think that's not going

676
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: to affect me, but it will when someone knocks on

677
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Speaker 5: your door because you posted something that they didn't like

678
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Speaker 5: or you made a joke, and yeah, it's getting you know.

679
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 5: That is what we're marching to, where either you're on

680
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Speaker 5: their side or the other side. And I know people

681
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Speaker 5: like me, I can't go erase everything I have said,

682
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Speaker 5: you know, on social media, on television that I've written.

683
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: That's all out there, and so you know I.

684
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Speaker 2: And to your point, nor should you have to, right

685
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Speaker 2: it is your wife.

686
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Speaker 1: But to that point, because to y'all want to add

687
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Speaker 1: on something to that, because I think about that every

688
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Speaker 1: day and my husband says to me, you know, like

689
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Speaker 1: even if I'm reposting something, he's like, be very careful

690
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Speaker 1: what you're putting out there about this administration, even though

691
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: it's stuff that's real and it's true.

692
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Speaker 3: Right.

693
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Speaker 1: But as a as a woman, and particularly a black woman,

694
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Speaker 1: because I know when Kamala lost, we all were like listen,

695
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Speaker 1: since I'm tired. Yeah, so we were like, you know what,

696
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Speaker 1: y'all got this one. But Chaniko, to your point, as

697
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Speaker 1: black women, we've always held it down. We've always been

698
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Speaker 1: on the front lines. We've always used our voices. We've

699
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: always said, all right, y'all, we got to figure this

700
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Speaker 1: shit out as a black.

701
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Speaker 2: Woman who wants to engage civically.

702
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Speaker 1: But again, we're just exhausted, like we're tired, but we

703
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Speaker 1: know what's out there. What does sustainable participation look like

704
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Speaker 1: to you in this next chapter?

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Speaker 5: Yeah so, because no, I know, And the first thing

706
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Speaker 5: I'm going to say is not going to make you

707
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Speaker 5: feel less tired, but it's just a reality. I want

708
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Speaker 5: to ground the conversation in. This is something my old

709
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 5: therapist used to say to me all the time. Whose

710
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Speaker 5: responsibility are you? And the answer was, I'm my own

711
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Speaker 5: responsibility and we unfortunately are like at the intersections that

712
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 5: put us kind of at the bottom. And so if

713
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Speaker 5: we don't save ourselves like, no one else will. And

714
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Speaker 5: I know it's unfair because whenever we save ourselves, we

715
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Speaker 5: save everybody else. But to date, I wouldn't trust anyone

716
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Speaker 5: other than us to make sure that we're okay. Now,

717
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Speaker 5: as far as like sustainable activism or you know, ways

718
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Speaker 5: to be engaged, you can choose where you decide to

719
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Speaker 5: show up. I obviously work in politics, but the first

720
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Speaker 5: year of Trump's term was hard, and when I was

721
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Speaker 5: in my twenties, I used to spend a lot of

722
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Speaker 5: time volunteering and I started doing that again this year

723
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Speaker 5: because the people, you know, I volunteer at this soup

724
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Speaker 5: kitchen I guess you call it, and you know they

725
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Speaker 5: serve breakfast and lunch. And I needed something to remind

726
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: me that I could help people quicker than the political process,

727
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 5: and so getting involved in kind of direct services really helps.

728
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Speaker 5: I think it helps remind you that, like the things

729
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: we're fighting for, like people actually do need help. And

730
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Speaker 5: it just grounds me to remember, like why I'm getting

731
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 5: up every day to do this long term work. But

732
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Speaker 5: for some people that just might be the extent of

733
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Speaker 5: what they're able to do right now. But that does

734
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Speaker 5: reinvest in the community and make sure people are okay.

735
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Speaker 5: You can also if you want to do work to

736
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Speaker 5: support Canadas, you can just work to support black women,

737
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Speaker 5: Like you don't have to expend yourself for people that

738
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Speaker 5: you're not sure and not all black women are working

739
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Speaker 5: in the interests of black women, so keep that in mind.

740
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Speaker 5: But you know, finding places where you can do that

741
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: or mutual aid, you know, figuring out ways to raise

742
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: money for people in your community who need help, or

743
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Speaker 5: get them food. You know when snap benefits look like

744
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 5: they were about to be cut off, Like how do

745
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 5: we come together and help in our communities? And even

746
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 5: if it's just having conversations, getting together once a month

747
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Speaker 5: with other people and talking about the issues that are

748
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Speaker 5: going on so that you're knowledgeable, so when you go

749
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 5: talk to your family and friends, you have the information

750
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Speaker 5: you need to help them. It doesn't always have to

751
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Speaker 5: be you know, you're showing up at a campaign office

752
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: three times a week to help someone get elected. It

753
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 5: can look like a lot of different things, but it's

754
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 5: really just about building your community and investing your time

755
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 5: into things that can make a difference. And I was

756
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 5: about to say that you feel can make a difference,

757
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: but I actually I just want to add one more

758
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 5: thing there, like if you don't know what can actually

759
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: have impact, like find an organization via the NAACP or

760
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Speaker 5: like the organization I run voats, say of America, but

761
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Speaker 5: like make sure the work you're doing can have an

762
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Speaker 5: actual impact. Because after Donald Trump got elected in twenty sixteen,

763
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: a lot of bad actors got into the space just

764
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 5: trying to make money. And so you don't want to

765
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 5: get caught up in something that is just helping someone

766
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Speaker 5: line their pockets. So make sure whatever you're doing is

767
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: like contributing. But there are a lot of great organizations

768
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Speaker 5: out there to help with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's for sure. I know. You know, Ryl

770
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Speaker 3: and I are both members of a sorority, and I

771
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Speaker 3: know one of the pillars that we definitely did was

772
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Speaker 3: to make sure during the time when snap benefits we're

773
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Speaker 3: running out, how can we get families money, How can

774
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Speaker 3: we get families food? How can we stop these pantries

775
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Speaker 3: to make sure that they are going to have what

776
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Speaker 3: they need? So there are definitely tangible ways that people

777
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: can get involved in their communities. But you know, before

778
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Speaker 3: we get you out of here, I'm just and again,

779
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Speaker 3: I want to thank you so much for your time,

780
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Speaker 3: because this is a conversation that we could literally have

781
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Speaker 3: and this is the on record conversation. Don't even get

782
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Speaker 3: me started off the shit that I want to say

783
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Speaker 3: when I stop this recording. But you know, we are

784
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, which there's only a couple of

785
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: more years left before we're going to start gearing up

786
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Speaker 3: for a presidential election, and there is a lot of

787
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Speaker 3: conversation around what it would look like if there was

788
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Speaker 3: some change to the constitution that would allow presidents or

789
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: people to stay in power a lot longer. But the

790
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: idea that we have right now is that come twenty

791
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Speaker 3: twenty eight, we'll be looking at someone else sitting in

792
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Speaker 3: the highest office in the land. And my question to

793
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Speaker 3: you is just.

794
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Speaker 2: What do you.

795
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 5: What do you hope a.

796
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: Post Trump era for the US would look like five

797
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: ten years from now, once we've gotten past this, Like,

798
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Speaker 3: what what has America learned? If anything right? Because history

799
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: tends to repeat itself. I'm a bit of a historian.

800
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Speaker 3: I love to look at what we've done, where we

801
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: are and how we're doing the same shit we've already

802
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Speaker 3: done again. But what do you think a post Trump

803
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Speaker 3: America could and should look like?

804
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Speaker 5: You know this, My answer is not about the economy

805
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: or like costs. I think whoever is h and presumably

806
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 5: it would have to be a Democrat for this to happen.

807
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 5: I think whoever's in the White House next? These people

808
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: need to go to prison. Yeah, you think about Germany

809
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: and they took care of all their Nazis and there

810
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 5: was just like a culture there where it's like never again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Here, after slavery, we paid the people who enslaved black

813
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Speaker 5: people to like make them, I don't know, to compensate

814
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Speaker 5: them for their losses. But the black people who were

815
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 5: coming out of that did not get anything. And we

816
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 5: put statues up to commemorate the people who were leading

817
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Speaker 5: the Confederacy. And so we have just like uplifted the

818
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 5: worst part of our history. And if we do that

819
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 5: again and we don't hold these people accountable, we are

820
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Speaker 5: going to repeat history again. And so that yes, I

821
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 5: want better schools, I want better healthcare, I want all

822
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Speaker 5: of that. But the reason we don't have those things

823
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Speaker 5: is because of the racism that undergirds this country. And

824
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 5: so like we have to really like the bad actors.

825
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: They need to be dealt with in real ways. And

826
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Speaker 5: so that is and to me, that's the only way

827
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Speaker 5: we get past trump Ism, because even when he's gone,

828
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Speaker 5: you look at people like JD. Vans, Marco Rubio, who

829
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Speaker 5: has just become a completely different person. If those people

830
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: are still here and willing to carry Trump's mantle forward,

831
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Speaker 5: then he can be gone and we're still going to

832
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Speaker 5: be dealing with this stuff.

833
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Speaker 2: That's a great point. It's a great point, and I

834
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Speaker 2: am totally.

835
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Speaker 3: Agree with you, girl.

836
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Speaker 1: Gone.

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Speaker 3: I tell you the way I would be tuned in

838
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Speaker 3: if there was a US version of the Numberg Trials,

839
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Speaker 3: I would be locked in, honey, Like, yes.

840
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Speaker 2: Lock them all up.

841
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 3: Throw them away. It's crazy, but yeah, I just I

842
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: hate to see history repeat itself when this is the

843
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: type of history that we're continually repeating.

844
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Speaker 5: Again.

845
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Speaker 3: To that point in twenty twenty, when this happens, when

846
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Speaker 3: we were seeing people murdered on TV, and we were

847
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: seeing people murdered in videos, the country did feel some

848
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 3: type of way, I like to say white guilt kicked

849
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: in and they were like, what can we all do

850
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: in order to help and save black people?

851
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Speaker 2: But we did have.

852
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Speaker 3: Enough to put a Democrat in office, right, And I'm

853
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: not saying Biden didn't have his faults, but at the

854
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Speaker 3: end of the day, we were at that point smart

855
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: enough to make some change. Here we are again in

856
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and we're seeing this thing happen live

857
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: in our face, and I am hoping that that is

858
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: enough to get people to say, hey, we need to

859
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: really make some type of formidable change. Just unfortunate people

860
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: have to lose their lives in order for folks to know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I know, we already have so many examples.

862
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 3: Girl. Enough we got enough. We don't need no more.

863
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Speaker 3: We got enough. But Shanika, thank you so much. Shanika,

864
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Speaker 3: thank you so much. My sister's name is Shanika, and

865
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I feel like your family. But

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. Can you give

867
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Speaker 3: our audience just uh more information on where they can

868
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: find you, how they can check out you know, cricket media,

869
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: just you know, give them some some way to stay connected.

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Speaker 2: And about Sorry, Vote Save America.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know. We are trying to pull as

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Speaker 5: many people in a Vote Save America as possible as

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Speaker 5: we head into the midterm. We haven't released our upcoming

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Speaker 5: strategy yet, but if you go to vote Saveamerica dot

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Speaker 5: com and just sign up, you will be one of

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Speaker 5: the first piece people to get our updates. But we're

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Speaker 5: making sure that everyone who is part of that community,

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Speaker 5: you know, we want them to take action. But something

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00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 5: else we want our audience to do, and this comes

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Speaker 5: out of the spirit of crooked media being created. We

881
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Speaker 5: want everyone to be a messenger. We want you to

882
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Speaker 5: have the information you need to go talk to people,

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Speaker 5: whether you're talking to a voter, your mother, your sister,

884
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Speaker 5: or your cousin or you know, some crazy neighbor. Like,

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Speaker 5: we want everyone to be able to do that because

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00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four showed us when you own the communication

887
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Speaker 5: and the narrative, you can win an election even when

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Speaker 5: you are awful. And so we have to compete in

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Speaker 5: those in those places, and so we're excited about the

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Speaker 5: work that we have coming. And yeah, yeah, I don't

891
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: know how to underscore this more, but every time we

892
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: disengage or say it's not worth our time, like, they

893
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 5: are just moving forward and that means that they are

894
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 5: going to get more done and they have like one

895
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Speaker 5: less soldier going up against them. And so whatever you

896
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: can do, just sign up to do it. You know,

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Speaker 5: I hope it's with votes, say of America. But there

898
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 5: are so many ways that people can get involved. And

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Speaker 5: if your first step is to just or something online,

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00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 5: do that. If it's to go do volunteer at a

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00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: soup kitchen, or participate in mutual aid, do that. But

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Speaker 5: all of those small things and if more people do it,

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Speaker 5: it actually does have an impact.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for your time, we appreciation.

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Speaker 3: I really did have to end that conversation because the

907
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: way that shit was, like, it's all like we just

908
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: kept opening Pandora's box for more and more conversation, Like seriously.

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Speaker 1: Well, but because there's so much that we could talk about, right,

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00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: we could go on and on and on. To me,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, this is a conversation that needs to

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Speaker 1: be had, Like everybody needs to be having some type

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Speaker 1: of conversation around politics and what's going on. Even if

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00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: you say I don't do politics, listen all the shit

915
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: that's happening in our country right now, you better do

916
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: politics because this is going to affect you as much

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Speaker 1: as it's affecting those.

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Speaker 3: Who do do politics.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, yes, yes we needed to cut it off.

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Speaker 3: We needed to, but we needed to have it in conversation.

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Speaker 3: It was it really was. And I you know, for

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Speaker 3: the people out there who are saying, you know, we're

924
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: part of that ninety two percent who needed a break, Okay,

925
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: I was too. I was part of that ninety two

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Speaker 3: percent that needed a break. But the break is over

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Speaker 3: because for me, at least, I have to go day

928
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Speaker 3: in and day out with the foolishness and I'm fortunate

929
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Speaker 3: to live in a blue state, But that don't mean

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Speaker 3: that I'm not affected. That don't mean the people who

931
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Speaker 3: I have family in states like Florida and North Carolina.

932
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Speaker 3: I've family in Georgia, Texas, like I have a cousin

933
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Speaker 3: in Austin. Like I literally you got Ken Houston, see sis, Sis,

934
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Speaker 3: I ain't worry about you because I know they ain't

935
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Speaker 3: gonna come down there fucking with you. You ain't gonna allow that.

936
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Speaker 3: I ain't that, but like that's just what I'm saying, Like,

937
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: you can only take so much time off and rest

938
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Speaker 3: and then it's time to get back out there, because

939
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Speaker 3: if not, then it will be too late, you know,

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00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 3: Like there what is the saying go there's no rest,

941
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Speaker 3: rest for the weary, Like it's just like it just

942
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: kind of is what it is.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: But but I am happy that we got a chance

945
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Speaker 3: to have Shanika join us, and I am looking forward

946
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Speaker 3: to following her and getting reacquainted with her later on

947
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Speaker 3: because I'm pretty sure something else is gonna happen in

948
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: which we're gonna need her to come on here and

949
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: help break it down for us. But with that, Cheryl,

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Speaker 3: last week, I did not provide a positive affirmation like

951
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Speaker 3: I really wanted to because I was like, I don't

952
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: do positive affirmations. That's cheryl, I ain't got nothing positive

953
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: for you. But I ain't got nothing. I ain't got nothing, but.

954
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Speaker 2: In my absence, I need you to hold it down.

955
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Speaker 3: I need I need you know what My positive affirmation is,

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Speaker 3: Go be great, every great, be great.

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Speaker 1: I should I got a good one. I got a

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00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: good one today, Okay. And I almost speak for you

959
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: because I already know this. You're gonna feel this one.

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Speaker 2: Oh what you got? Because no, because I felt it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also gonna say our sister Jasmine, don't feel it.

962
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: Because it's it just is here, it goes.

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Speaker 1: No matter how good you are, in the wrong place,

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Speaker 1: you won't be valued.

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Speaker 2: Growl ma'am. That's a whole word. Dup listen, and that

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Speaker 2: that applies to everything.

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Speaker 1: Your friends, life, your job, whatever, whatever. Like I saw that,

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Speaker 1: it was like damn ouch because I questioned a lot

969
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: of stuff, right, like why am I not? Why do

970
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: you not think I'm good enough? Because I know I'm

971
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Speaker 1: good enough to be here for you all the things,

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Speaker 1: but no matter how good you are.

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Speaker 3: And then the space place, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You won't be valued. You won't be valued, point blank period.

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Speaker 3: That one spoke to my I gotta get that one.

976
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: That one spoke to my soul. Okay, you know what

977
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: I got to go? Bye, goodbye, y'all Like that's it.

978
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: Mike is dropped. That's it, y'all ain't getting you, ain't

979
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Speaker 3: getting none else but a goodbye. Oh my god, but no.

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Speaker 3: Thank you all so much for continuing to listen to

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Speaker 3: Levels to This. This is always the best part of

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Speaker 3: my week being able to chop it up and record.

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Speaker 3: But listen, this is not just our show. It is

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Speaker 3: our show, so we want to hear from you. Leave

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986
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Speaker 3: you thought about this week's episode, or you can definitely

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Speaker 3: So until next time, friends, keep your mentals ground level

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Speaker 3: and we'll be back next week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah,