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Speaker 2: Black Monday, Black Monday. This was my idea.

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Speaker 1: It's me.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, the twenty third of March twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and it is time for Morning Combat. Welcome. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I am one of the hosts of

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Speaker 1: this program, but there are two joining me all the

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Speaker 1: way if I can see. Somewhere in the bowels of

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Speaker 1: suburban Connecticut is the other host of this program, and

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Speaker 1: is Brian Campbell, who you might know from CBS Sports. Brian,

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Speaker 1: how are you, my good friend.

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there. I'm doing so much better this week, Luke,

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Speaker 2: and I hope that we can say the same about

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Speaker 2: our listeners as these are trying unprecedented times. But as

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Speaker 2: you can look around, this sure ain't the swamps of Jersey. Luke,

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Speaker 2: We've changed a lot of and then some some. But

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Speaker 2: you know, our viewers have always been down down, and Luke,

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Speaker 2: if I ever didn't thank them, let me do that

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Speaker 2: right now. Because these people are passionate. They've wanted us

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Speaker 2: back in their lives. Shout out the showtime shout out

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Speaker 2: to Malka for sending us some equipment. All I need

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Speaker 2: is one mic Luke, and I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell what is what is worse your three

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Speaker 1: to eleven reference or that self made barracks cut at

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Speaker 2: Look, here's the deal, Luke. Okay, from the front, it's

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Speaker 2: borderline professional. I watched five year two yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I you know, from the back, looks very amateur. But

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Speaker 2: you got to understand here, Luke, not only did I

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Speaker 2: save twenty four dollars in giving myself my first haircut,

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Speaker 1: Brother, I'm gonna have to. There's nothing I can do.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you. We spoke about a week ago.

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Speaker 1: remained kind of the I suppose is the family doing well?

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Speaker 2: You know, I was a little bit too tuned in,

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Speaker 2: Like we mentioned last week, in the beginning, I hit

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Speaker 2: that wave of fear. It was fear mongering. It was

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of good that has come out

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Speaker 2: rewiring Luke of sort of this Northeast mentality I call it,

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Speaker 2: which is, you know, ambition, ambition, succeed, cash checks, fear

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's good to take that step back. I didn't

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Speaker 2: So it may not actually surprise me, Luke, that Dana

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Speaker 1: Right, Which is why it's not a matter of what

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Speaker 2: So you, in our friendship fourth wall removed, You often

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Speaker 2: So I do give you that applause for having the

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Speaker 1: event on a basketball court, grabbing a woman by her clothes,

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Speaker 1: picking up and then marching her behind closed doors. Well,

434
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Speaker 1: TMZ has found a video where it's not entirely conclusive, Brian,

435
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Speaker 1: and I'll go to you first on this as well,

436
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Speaker 1: but it appears, and I want to make sure I'm

437
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Speaker 1: using the word carefully, it appears he is striking someone

438
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Speaker 1: and it appears to be the woman in question from

439
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Speaker 1: the previous video that had been well circulated. So number one,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of what the video shows? First?

441
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Speaker 1: What does this say to you about that incident and

442
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: about Jervonte Davis?

443
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Speaker 2: You know, it certainly adds a little bit more on

444
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: top of what is you know, an s sandwich in

445
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 2: terms of just bad press and bad everything. You're right,

446
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: there's an inconclusive nature. It's the opposite side view somebody

447
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: I assume with a cell phone can unless it's like

448
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: a locker room cam that they had there. But it's

449
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: the opposite view of that party coming in. You do

450
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: see to Dvonte throw a punch, you can't tell who's

451
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Speaker 2: throwing it at there's a scuffle afterwards. It's just bad altogether.

452
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Speaker 2: So here's the deal. He's not the first fighter to

453
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Speaker 2: have had a transgression on this level and still went

454
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Speaker 2: on with their career and you know, dealt with the

455
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 2: legal realities of that and kept rolling. I mean, we're

456
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Speaker 2: never gonna forget twenty twelve when Las Vegas allowed Floyd

457
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Speaker 2: to delay his jail sentence for a month to make

458
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Speaker 2: sure that Codo fight happens so everybody can make money.

459
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Speaker 2: I do hope, though, at this point, that this isn't

460
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Speaker 2: a negative turning point for Jervonte. He had been really

461
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Speaker 2: I mean, be like I said, largely a babyfit. If

462
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Speaker 2: we're talking wrestling standpoint of a guy who entertains crowds.

463
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 2: He's funny on the mic, he's got charisma when you

464
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: really sit down and talk to him, and he's an entertainer,

465
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: he draws a large crossover audience. I'd like to see

466
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Speaker 2: him go public and put this behind him with the

467
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Speaker 2: type of public acknowledging in responsible response, Luke that can

468
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Speaker 2: allow us to put this behind him, because this is

469
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Speaker 2: such an awful look, and I don't think you know

470
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Speaker 2: you want him to have to become a public villain

471
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Speaker 2: and go down that road. While you can use that

472
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Speaker 2: from a marketing crutch if you want to, there's no

473
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Speaker 2: reason he has to. I want to cheer for Gervonte Davis.

474
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Speaker 2: This is deplorable. This makes me not want to. I

475
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: hope he can correct this and move on. He's still

476
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Speaker 2: a young guy who came to fame at a very

477
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Speaker 2: early time. Not making any excuses, but I'd like to

478
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Speaker 2: see a public stance on this and then we can

479
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Speaker 2: be done.

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Speaker 1: I would just say this on the situation, Brian, which

481
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Speaker 1: is my hunch is that when this is all over,

482
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Speaker 1: whether it's next week, next month, next year, God only knows,

483
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: right that there's gonna be in boxing and MMA. Frankly,

484
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: across the sporting landscape, there's gonna be a massive appetite

485
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: for sports. I mean, when the ball gets rolling, it's

486
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna be slow at first, and then it's gonna be

487
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Speaker 1: a roar. And as a consequence, I don't know if

488
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: Javonte Davis is going to go right to pay per view,

489
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Speaker 1: as it was assumed following his last win over eur

490
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Speaker 1: Yukus Gamboa. I don't know if he's gonna face Leo

491
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz. I don't know where things are gonna shake out.

492
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Speaker 1: Here's what I am hoping. I am not under the

493
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Speaker 1: impression that somehow the bug, the appetite, I should say,

494
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: rather four fights, is gonna pass him by. He's gonna

495
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Speaker 1: get booked, and probably against somebody big, depending on who's available,

496
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Speaker 1: maybe Leo Santa Cruz, maybe on pay per view. We'll

497
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Speaker 1: have to see. My only hope is that when this

498
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Speaker 1: is all said and done, he has, at that moment

499
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Speaker 1: a great opportunity to address everything, and I hope he

500
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Speaker 1: does forth rightly, because up to this point he's I

501
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Speaker 1: think deleted certain social media presences and not really kind

502
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: of addressed it. I know he's had some back and

503
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: forth with Ryan Garcia. I've just not seen him say

504
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: anything in the way of contrition. Whether or not he's

505
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: struck that woman in that second video or not, he's

506
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: certainly grabbed her in the first that's bad enough of

507
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Speaker 1: a look, whether whether or not it's illegal or not.

508
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: So he has a chance. He has a chance that

509
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Speaker 1: when this is all over, when he gets booked for

510
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Speaker 1: a fight, when the media ask him about it, to

511
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Speaker 1: be upfront about it, to be clear about it. Whatever

512
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: the laws are that he has run up against, and

513
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Speaker 1: whatever law enforcement decide, we'll see how that all plays out.

514
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Speaker 1: What I don't want to see him is in the

515
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Speaker 1: position where, because there is such great appetite for him

516
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Speaker 1: to get going, that people in the media and the

517
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Speaker 1: public kind of put those questions away and say, you

518
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: know what, I just want to see fights so bad,

519
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to care about this anymore. That

520
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: would be the wrong conclusion to draw that if you

521
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: just wait for a literally a global tragedy to happen

522
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: that interrupts global life, I don't ever have to worry

523
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: about any of my personal misconduct. It would send the

524
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Speaker 1: wrong mess. I'm not saying he has to, you know,

525
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: get on his knees and flog himself with a whip.

526
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: And this has to be the case for the rest

527
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Speaker 1: of his life. Rather, what I'm suggesting is addressing it

528
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Speaker 1: up front, telling us about a plan of action, being clear,

529
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: being precise, and then showing that kind of maturity that

530
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Speaker 1: you were alluding to as he enters this next chapter

531
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Speaker 1: of his career, which by the way, is if he

532
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: plays his cards right, both as a professional and in

533
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: his personal life, it should be bc the most lucrative.

534
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: It should come on the biggest stages. It should be

535
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Speaker 1: against the biggest opponents, whether it's Ryan Garcia, Leo Santa Cruz,

536
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: or anybody else. This is his chance to hit superstardom.

537
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Doing this kind of stuff is not only morally reprehensible,

538
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: it's just not even professionally wise.

539
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Speaker 2: And we want superstars. We want the people of our

540
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: era to fulfill their potential, and right now he's in

541
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: that young group of the guys like the Devin Haines,

542
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: the Ryan Garcias, the Taeo Femo Lopez is who legitimately

543
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: might have next in this sport. As terms of being

544
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: the faces of it, you don't want to see another

545
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: Adrian bro situation. To be really honest with you, a

546
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: guy who never quite maximized what was inside of him.

547
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Speaker 1: Next up we move on to at just an unfortunate tragedy.

548
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: We certainly send our condolences out to the Mayweather family

549
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: because this week legendary boxer and boxing trainer. Most folks

550
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: only know him recently for his boxing training, which of

551
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: course was quite good, but he is much more than that.

552
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: Roger Mayweather passed away I think at the age of

553
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: fifty eight, and what they're calling essentially him succumbing to

554
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: his illness. I've not heard it described exactly, but no

555
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: one has suggested that it had nothing to do with

556
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: a life spent in boxing and some of the damage

557
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: that he had taken. Brian, we're talking about what his

558
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: biggest legacy is and is rather his biggest accomplishment, Like

559
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: what did he bring to the sport? And I was

560
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: going through and I was watching some of his old fights.

561
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Speaker 1: First of all, a lot of folks should recognize this.

562
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: He was the original black Mamba. Obviously shouts to Kobe

563
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: what a sportsman, truly one of the best of our era,

564
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: irrespective of sport. But the original black Mamba was Roger Mayweather.

565
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Speaker 1: He was the guy that wore that crown at a

566
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Speaker 1: time I don't think anyone had up to that point

567
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: inside the squared circle. So first I want to say

568
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: I always found that kind of fun. Secondly, I would

569
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: say this was a guy who was a two weight

570
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: world champion. And yes, he lost to I think Chavez

571
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: twice during his era. There was some other noteworthy losses

572
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: he had along the way. It wasn't the same distinguished

573
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Speaker 1: record as Floyd, which I think gets a lot of

574
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: folks confused about how good of a boxer that he was.

575
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: But he won it, I think or lightweight and junior welterweight.

576
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: So he was a two weight world champion, and he

577
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: beat some great fighters along the way, and he also

578
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: had some great wars. Now maybe some of those were

579
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: contributed to problems down the road, but a lot of

580
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: times he was not expected to win. A lot of

581
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: times he would go to his opponent's territory and be

582
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: in their home area. I think he won his second

583
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: of his two world titles doing that in Puerto Rico.

584
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: And so you really get a respect for here was

585
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: a guy who could do it all in the global

586
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: sense of boxing. I don't mean global in a geographic sense, Brian.

587
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: I mean global in the sense of everything you can

588
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: have in a boxing life. Can you be a good fighter, yes,

589
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: Can you be a good trainer yes? Can you be

590
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: good on the mic? How many times did Roger Mayweather

591
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: say people don't know shit about boxing? He was famous

592
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: about that, and he also just had a real keen

593
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: understanding of human psyche of what made people work. He

594
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: has a famous quote when someone asked him, you know what,

595
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: Floyd has all this money, Floyd Junior, he has all

596
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: this money, he has all this celebrity, why does he

597
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: keep fighting? And he said, Hey, you know how Bill

598
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Gates got a billion dollars and he still make them

599
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: fucking computers. That's Floyd. And I just thought it was

600
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: such a smart and easy way to describe it, but

601
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: it homes in on something really kind of true about

602
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the nature of the big Grates. And the last thing

603
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: I'll say is I think some of the lessons Brian

604
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: that he learned from his career. Yes, he was able

605
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: to impart on Floyd when he trained him when and

606
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: Floyd and Floyd Senior had their falling out as a technicians,

607
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: as a tactician that too, But I think he had

608
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: lost a costa Zoo in ninety six or so right

609
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: when Floyd Junior's career as a pro was getting going.

610
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I can't say this for any kind of certainty, Brian,

611
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: but part of me wonders if Floyd Junior took some

612
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: of the tactical smarts that Roger was able to employ

613
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: in him and just observing kind of what the fight

614
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: game had done to Roger as a competitor, and then

615
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: taking those lessons in and incorporating that into a fight style,

616
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: and then as a business strategy.

617
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: Certainly as a fighting business strategy. Now, Floyd's gone on

618
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: record in the past, and obviously, you know this is

619
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: a fighting family, the Mayweathers, and Floyd Junior had the glow,

620
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: you know, it was hitting door knobs as a two

621
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: year old in his playpen. So this was a guy

622
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: who was groomed for success. And obviously, of the three

623
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: Mayweather brothers, Floyd Senior, Roger and Jeff Roger had the

624
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: best pro career by far. And as you mentioned, Floyd's

625
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: going on record and said he saw the end of

626
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: Roger's career up close, saw the punishment he regularly took

627
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: in order to stay in those fights, and wanted to

628
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: be the opposite of that. So that certainly played a

629
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Speaker 2: large influence. And that was right around the time in

630
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: the late nineties that the falling out, like you mentioned

631
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: with Floyd Senior, when he went away to jail and

632
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: sort of left Floyd. He taught Floyd how to fight,

633
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: and suddenly Uncle Roger was there to nurture him, helped

634
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: him start as a pro, come out of the Olympics,

635
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: become in early pound for pound king people forget right

636
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: around two thousand and two thousand and one, and then

637
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: eventually become the crossover pay per view star that he

638
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: became the largest star in history. But Mayweather Promotions did

639
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: put out a statement that gave the cause of death

640
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: to diabetes, and we had seen Roger step away from

641
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: the spotlight. He left Floyd's corner right around twenty thirteen

642
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen for good, as Floyd Senior came back in.

643
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: But you look at Roger and certainly I think the

644
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: greatest contribution to this business was being the trainer of,

645
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: you know, the most successful fighter of this era. And

646
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: he was such a calming influence in there. And I

647
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: know there was always that narrative that, oh, Floyd was

648
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: so great, he trained himself. It didn't matter but Roger

649
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: was certainly someone who Floyd respected, who had the air

650
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: of he wanted to hear what Roger had to say.

651
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: And Luke, you've seen the videos a million times. That

652
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: relationship they had with Floyd hitting the pads as uncle

653
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Roger would hold him up and slap back at him.

654
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: It became a dance. It became this thing they did

655
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: that is sort of indelibly burned into your mind. When

656
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: you see that, you know what big fight's coming, and

657
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: it just really put into focus the relationship that they had,

658
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: the trust that they had. He played a monster role

659
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: in that, and I think even bigger, although this is

660
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: sort of a lesser note. He became quite a personality.

661
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: As you know, the idea of these pre fight documentary shows,

662
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: whether it was twenty four to seven on HBO or

663
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: Showtimes All Access, really gave you that inside look behind

664
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: the fighters. Roger was an early star in that. It

665
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: wasn't just the hashtag ydsav you don't know shit about boxing,

666
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: It was, you know, the back and forth with Freddie

667
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: Roach ahead of the Floyd Oscar fight. Roger really showed

668
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: you just how hilarious he was. He had a few

669
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: missteps outside of the ring as well. But this was

670
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: a guy who was a lifer. You mentioned how underrated

671
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: he was as a fighter. He was the Mexican Assassin,

672
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: the Mexecutioner, won titles in two divisions. Yes, maybe lost

673
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: his biggest ones against the custas used twice to Julio

674
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: says Ar Chavez, but you know he's got wins over

675
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: Vinnie Pasienza, Livingstone Bramble. This guy really gave a lot

676
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: to this business, and it was tough to see him

677
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: sort of take a step back as his health declined

678
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: in recent years, and certainly tough to see him go

679
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: during a very hard time in the Mayweather family in general.

680
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: As we know, Floyd lost his longtime girlfriend Josie Harris,

681
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: the mother of a few of his children, at age forty,

682
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: So tough time in the Mayweather clan at the moment.

683
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: But Roger gave a lot to the sport and he

684
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: was always a joy to you know, walk up to

685
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: and get a quote from him. Big fan, big fan

686
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: of the Black Mambo.

687
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: And it also tells you too that like one, Floyd

688
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: is such a in terms of a professional career, he's

689
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: just one of the best ever. But to be that

690
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: it requires such a command of oneself, but you have

691
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: to have an incredible supporting cast to all the stars

692
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: kind of have to align, and that you can do

693
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: that essentially while keeping everything in house. In the family

694
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: is kind of you've seen it a father and son

695
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: relationship or uncle and nephew relationship and individual instances, Brian,

696
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: you've certainly seen that or even that uncle train other people.

697
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: But to have three brothers, as you indicated, and then

698
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: one child who could do it, and then to develop

699
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: this brand around a boxing gym, and more than that

700
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: due the first family of boxing, right, I don't know

701
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: who would be beyond him, certainly for this generation. And

702
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: that's all I mean, that's an impossible thing virtually to become.

703
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: But it's an underscore the fact that whatever people think

704
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: of of Floyd and what he accomplished, there is a

705
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: bigger Mayweather story that needs to be told, and a

706
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: lot of it got told through Floyd, which is not

707
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: the worst way to get told, right, because he has

708
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: sort of the sun and everything was kind of revolved

709
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: around him. At the same time, you can't forget the

710
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: individual greats in their own right. You mentioned that Roger

711
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: had Floyd with Freddie Roach I was there for Mayweather Packer.

712
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were too. When they had the coaches

713
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: press conference, Floyd Senior was doing the exact same thing

714
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: when he was talking to Freddy like they just had

715
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: a way of going back and forth with any of

716
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: their rivals, and to do that in house. It's so

717
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: incredible that they were what they were, and they were

718
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: in They were interesting on their own, Brian, and then

719
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: there were something greater than some of their parts when

720
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: they were together and.

721
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: Shot and in closing, shout out to Roger in that

722
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: twenty six, two thousand and six Mayweather zab Judah fight.

723
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: You remember that melee when zab Judah started throwing dirty shots.

724
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: Roger was the first one in there. Took a swing

725
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: from Yoel Judah. He took a shot at Zab. He

726
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: ended up getting a one year suspension from the Nevada Commission.

727
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: But that just showed you, showed you who he was.

728
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Luke, he certainly was. He was. He was not all talk.

729
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, all right, let's go to something else that

730
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: I find very very interesting. So apparently Dan Lambert, who

731
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: is the only I'm a proprietor of American Top Team,

732
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: one of the truly great teams in mixed martial arts

733
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: has issued something Brian Campbell of a gag rule. The

734
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: way I understand it is unless there is a bout

735
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: agreement signed between two competitors, two fighters inside of ATT

736
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: fighter X fighter why they both trained at ATT. He

737
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: does not want any trash talk now, he said. He

738
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: understood that if you've got a fight coming up, hey,

739
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: you got to promote it. That's just part of the business.

740
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: But outside of that, the gag rule stays. Brian, let's

741
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: go to you first on this. Your sense of things

742
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: about why this rule was made. I think we kind

743
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: of know what. I just want to hear your thoughts

744
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: on it. And two, is this smart or is this

745
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: too much of a is it too heavy of a burden?

746
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: No, it's really smart, and it had to be done

747
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: because of extreme circumstances, which is Colby Covington looke. Let's

748
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: wake up. This the Colby Covington rule. We all know it.

749
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: The reason why I love that this happened was, Look,

750
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: we know how great the team there ATT is, what

751
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: Dan Lambert and company have built. Mikey Brown, Huh, who's

752
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: the Who's the Brazilian fella? I call him Brazilian Shrek,

753
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: which is probably insulting, you know that, Conan, my man. Yes, Look,

754
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: they've built something so truly special. They were a powerhouse team.

755
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: And what can potentially break that up? Something rotten in

756
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: the inside. And when you have the potential, when Colby

757
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: has built this outward villainous character, to see him get

758
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 2: in fistfights with a Poorrier or a Jorge inside a camp,

759
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: obviously that's a that's a poison. You want to address

760
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: that right off the top. I love that Dan said

761
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: two things, one which you mentioned, which is, look, if

762
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: you got to fight together, that's fair, you got to

763
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: promote it. But two us in the pro wrestling side,

764
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: we know of Dan Lambert's history. He played a heel

765
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: manager with Impact Wrestling a couple of years back. He's

766
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: got one of the largest pro wrestling belt collections. He

767
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: puts the blame on himself for loving the trash talking

768
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: that that you know is so affiliated with pro wrestling

769
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 2: a little bit too much and allowing that to become

770
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: a thing. And then you know, Luke, you see it.

771
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: Every time we're interviewing Joanna, every time we're interviewing anyone,

772
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: we're bringing up Colby Covington within the first three or

773
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: four questions. You want to cut that crap down. Now,

774
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: you want to bring everybody back to the team level.

775
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: Smart move, Dan Lambert.

776
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Look, there's two ways you can run a super team, right.

777
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: You can do the AKA model, which is we're gonna

778
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: have one guy who's gonna be our guy per weight class.

779
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna have our Luke Rockhold, he's gonna be our guy.

780
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: In middleweight. We're gonna have Kane Velasquez. We got Dan

781
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: de Cormier. Well, one are you is dropping down on

782
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: one of you? Is not?

783
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: So?

784
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: DC says, you know what, Cain, welcome to me into

785
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: this team. I'm gonna make the sacrifice. I'm gonna go

786
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: down to two h five. Now. In Kain's absence, we

787
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: know that that was not necessarily the case, or when

788
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: he fought and Strikeforce that wasn't the case either. But

789
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: they were deferential towards each other for being the men

790
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: in that gym, and that was how they remain cohesive.

791
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: And all those years where Dana White was like, we're

792
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna get Fitch and cost Check to fight, they never did.

793
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: Now to what extent they were offered, I don't know,

794
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: but they were adamant it wouldn't matter if they were offered.

795
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: Were never going to fight each other. That's one model.

796
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: The other model is what ATT has, which not only

797
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: has an affiliate system around the country, but inside that

798
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: Coconut Creek facility, they've got so many heavyweights, so many lights,

799
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: so many junior I should say, a middles in and

800
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: welters and lights and feathers and all the way down.

801
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: And they're coming from Brazil, they're coming from across the country,

802
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: they're changing teams. It goes on and on and on.

803
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: It is not possible in that kind of model to

804
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: not have some clash. You're right, though, if you're going

805
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: to have that model and you're going to have people

806
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: so many elites in one weight class in one organization, Brian,

807
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: it's not like they're spread out evenly between Beltore and

808
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: I and UFC and other organizations are all kind of

809
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: clustered in that particular organization. So if that's gonna be

810
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: the case, you have to have some kind of established

811
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: order that doesn't ruin the gym. You cannot have a

812
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: couple of bad apples spoil the bunch and Colby Covetted's

813
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: trash talk has been widely debated about its value, about

814
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: its merits and whatever position you want to take on

815
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: that you can. But I think Dan Lambert doing this

816
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: was not only the right call, it was the inevitable call.

817
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: If you're going to have confrontations at your gym, if

818
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have people fighting in the street, if you're

819
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: gonna have people who can't even train, not together per se,

820
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: but at the same time under the same roof. For

821
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: how ugly it is, you can't run a business. You

822
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: cannot run a business, not effectively, not under that model.

823
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: He had to make this call for preservation. Not only

824
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: was it the right call, Brian, it was the only

825
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: play right.

826
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: Because inevitably you're not only going to have fights that

827
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: could slow down the growth of your gym and ruin

828
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: potential big fights being made, but look, you're gonna have

829
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: factions that develop, and that's when suddenly, you know, one

830
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: trainer grabs a few fighters and starts his own gym.

831
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: Smart move overall. This is Look, I've been there. You know,

832
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: that's a very impressive organization they have down there, the

833
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: quality of fighters, the overall attitude and culture inside that

834
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: gym very clean and welcoming, if that makes any sense, Luke,

835
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's a professional environment, and shout out to

836
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: them for preserving that.

837
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: And I'll say last thing on this, A big portion

838
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: of how you succeed, no matter what your model is

839
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: of being a super team, whether you're the AKA or

840
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: the ATT method is recruitment. Right, people come to you

841
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: from across the country. We just saw violent Bob Ross

842
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: went over to ATT that it's a recruiting thing, not

843
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: just people in the Coconut Creek area who happened to

844
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: be there. People come to you, but if they hear

845
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: stories about confrontation and about there's just this disorder there

846
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: in the business, they're not going to be as eager

847
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: to come over to your facility and train onto your team,

848
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how good everyone else is around you. So

849
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: this was absolutely not only the right call, This was

850
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: the only call. Now.

851
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was like that time that Jay

852
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: was mad at you and he called me up and said,

853
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: let's go start our own show. Let's do uh afternoon combat,

854
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: let's do it. Bro. I was like, no, no, Bro, Luke,

855
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: and I day one ish all right.

856
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what Jake. Jake called me

857
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: this weekend. You know what he said, And he said,

858
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: he said, hey, Luke, if I'm masturbated at an RB's,

859
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: is that gonna get me coronavirus? And I said it

860
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: could Jay. He goes, well, wait a second, is masturbating

861
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: in an Arby's a symptom of coronavirus? And I said,

862
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: could be either. Jay, I just don't know. I'm just

863
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: pointing that out. I was like, Jay, it is a

864
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: very weird call, but you do you my friend, just working.

865
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Jamocha milkshake only available at Arby's

866
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: top shelf stuff.

867
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, listen to this a little bit different here.

868
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: Fer point five on the show, Brian, you have been

869
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: on a quest. I hand you the floor. This is

870
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: an interesting intersection because we have a lot in common.

871
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: We have a lot not in common. But one thing

872
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: we have in common is we both love movies. And

873
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: now it turns out we both love military slash war movies,

874
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: although there is a difference. Why don't you tell folks

875
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: about the quest you've been on? And then I want

876
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: to frame the discussion we're about to have about it.

877
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the deal. Luke and listeners out there. Viewers,

878
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: we'll invade your ear hole or your eyes, it's your choice.

879
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: I've made the point clear on here that nineteen seventeen

880
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: is the best film I've ever seen it, And of

881
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: course the uproar was, how could you say that, BC

882
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: if you ain't seen Apocalypse? Now, brother, Well, here's the deal.

883
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: I'd seen certain war movies. I've seen parts of some.

884
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: I saw Casualties of War and thought it was Platoon

885
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: in my mind. I saw a lot of different things,

886
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: So I don't want to be a half hearted expert here.

887
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: My goal was to a prove to people that nineteen

888
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: seventeen really is the best movie I've ever seen. But

889
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: b Luke do that by becoming woke across the board.

890
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: So in the last ten days, you want to know

891
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: what I've watched? You ready for this too? Tell me Platoon,

892
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: Casualties of War, the Deer Hunter, keep it coming, the

893
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: American Sniper saving Private Ryan, Saving Private Ryan. Apocalypse Now.

894
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: I think I said that already.

895
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: Did you see it? Let me ask you us. So

896
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: we'll just go through. Did you see hurt Locker?

897
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: I have not seen that yet. It is on my

898
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: list anyway, I've saw three or four other ones. I

899
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: even went back and watched Glory and Gettysburg. I'm massive

900
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: fans of both. I think Glory is a top five

901
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: war movie. But here's the whole point of this larger discussion, Luke,

902
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: have I been able to prove to myself that at

903
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: each turn all of those movies in some full metal

904
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: jacket another one, and some of them are just spectacular

905
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: and they're in the conversation, But are they better than

906
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: nineteen seventeen? And my eyes, no, they're not, Luke, And

907
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: it's close, Okay, Apocalypse Now is a freaking masterpiece. The

908
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: Deer Hunter is my favorite of that entire group that

909
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: I just mentioned. I cannot I wake up in the

910
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: middle of the night thinking about that Russian Roulette scene.

911
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's de naro, it's walking, this is like,

912
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 2: this is the top of the damn Pops. But Luke,

913
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: I think you gotta ask yourself, what are you trying

914
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: to get out of a war movie. It's very rare

915
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: that war movies are feel good stories. I think Saving

916
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Private Ryan, which you're right, it was everything everyone said

917
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: it was. It is a super bowl of exactly what

918
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: a war movie can and maybe should be because it

919
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: actually balances together the very very harsh realities of war

920
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: with like an action movie feel with a quasi happy

921
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: ending in the way. And it's very rare that you

922
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: get that happy ending. But I think in some ways

923
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: that's what I'm looking for. So here's an example. Luke Platoon.

924
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 2: It was the best picture nineteen eighty six. I hated it, brother,

925
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: it was uncomfortable. I didn't want anything to do with it.

926
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: I wanted out of the damn jungle. There was no

927
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: ending for me. I'm not looking for that out of

928
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: a war movie. I think our brethren. Do you know

929
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: this fella at web Scream You know him?

930
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah? He messages me all the time. He seems

931
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: like I'm smart, dude.

932
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: He's the Greek god of Mma Thunder. His name is

933
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: Chris Kristoforos. He actually, by the way, lives in Italy

934
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: and he's been fighting the good fight through this whole virus.

935
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: So shout out to him. But he took the challenge.

936
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: He watched it, he came back and said, BC, look,

937
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: you were right. This is a nineteen seventeen is a

938
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: cinematic classic, and it's so unique that I don't even

939
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: think you can put it in the war genre. I

940
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: think it's a separate thing altogether. He might be right, Luke,

941
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: you have finally tasted and see fill in the blanks here.

942
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: How great was nineteen seventeen? Is it top of the

943
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: pops in the war genre or is that not even

944
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: what you're looking for in a war movie?

945
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: It would, I would be I would struggle to put

946
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: it top ten. You could make a case for it

947
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: top ten, but I'm not exactly sure where top ten

948
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: war movie? What top ten war movies? Yeah, so let

949
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: me tell you what I saw in this movie. If

950
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: you've not seen nineteen seventeen, highly recommended, what an excellent film.

951
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: If I had to answer, what was the best thing

952
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: about nineteen seventeen, two things stand out to me, Brian,

953
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: and I think you'd probably agree. Number one, the cinematography

954
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: is magic. It is so it's a war movie, right,

955
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: but it's beautiful to watch, which makes it a sort

956
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: of an interesting contradiction. The coloring and the landscaping and

957
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: the framing of the shots just magnificent. Sam Mendez directed

958
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: this movie and did a phenomenal job with this direction

959
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: as well. So Number one, the cinematography, especially the scene

960
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: of Brian in the second half, in the sort of

961
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: the burning ecouste of town.

962
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: Just what jaw dropping cinematography during this moment.

963
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a.

964
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: Now worthy luke shout out, shout out to.

965
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: I would agree there in terms of cinematography, it's it

966
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: stands away well that there's a lot more to it, Jay,

967
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: So shut your mouth, look at your phone. Jay also

968
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: texted you, so I would say that. The second part

969
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: to me that stands out was it's essentially two parts

970
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: of a continuous shot. So for folks women to understand,

971
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of war movies are split in half,

972
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: like Full Metal Jacket, where it has the scenes at

973
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Paris Island and then ultimately in country at Vietnam, but

974
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: there are different scenes within that where they cut and

975
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: they restart, and they cut and they restart. The first

976
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: and second half of nineteen seventeen, it's just one continuous shot. Now,

977
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to say more than that, because at

978
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: that point I'd be giving it away. That's a novel

979
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: way to shoot a war movie that has not been

980
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: done a whole lot, which I found really really interesting

981
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: and a bit of a video game feel for me

982
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: over time, so I'm glad they split it in the

983
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: middle of the way they did. Nevertheless, very interesting Beyond that,

984
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: though I have some problems with the movie.

985
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: One.

986
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: In parts, it was telling the story about the horrors

987
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: of war, but it did it in almost a horror

988
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: movie kind of fashion, where it was in some ways

989
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: not real and in other ways so over the top

990
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: that it felt a little phony. When they were climbing

991
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: through different areas and there were bodies and hands reaching out,

992
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: had a real zombie apocalypse kind of feel. I don't

993
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: know how realistic that was.

994
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: I thought that the rats chewing on the bodies was

995
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: sort of like a wake up call to the realities

996
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: of how brutal World War One was and that you know,

997
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: the bodies were just all left there.

998
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: Right, and trench warfare was a big problem, And again

999
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: they did the set design was good on that, but

1000
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: it got to a point where it just felt like

1001
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: am I watching a war movie or am I watching?

1002
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: Am I watching a horror movie. It was a weird

1003
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: distinction that it kind of got blurred there over time.

1004
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: I think the other part is there were small things

1005
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: how about how unrealistic it was, like when he was

1006
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: marching up a hill and he was firing his web

1007
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: and he had a bolt action rifle, and he was

1008
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: still able to hit the target every time while on

1009
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: his feet. I'm like, there's no way you can eject

1010
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: the round, reload it into the barrel off a bolt

1011
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: action rifle and have that kind of accuracy. But okay,

1012
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: that's small. Here's what got me. Didn't like the screenplay

1013
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: very much. There was hardly any surprises, and there's a.

1014
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: Gut wrenching surprise there. I mean, it's the surprise of

1015
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: the movie.

1016
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Look, maybe there's Relative to every other war movie I've

1017
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: seen at a top level, there were not many surprises.

1018
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: And then the last part I'd say, is this whole

1019
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: thing of romantic war movies, which is essentially what this was. Yes,

1020
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing about saving Private Ryan

1021
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: having done that, but that was twenty plus years ago.

1022
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: I did not really The predictability of it, married with

1023
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: this bad screenplay, married with the romantic nature of it,

1024
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: brings it down and not for me.

1025
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: All right, do you think it was Santaaz? Even though

1026
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: there was some brutal elements of war, you know, blown up,

1027
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, rats chewing on dead do you think it

1028
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: was sanitized enough and that maybe Webscream is right, that

1029
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: it's not really a war movie, and me not being

1030
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: a natural war movie guy, that I fell in love

1031
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: with the fact that look unlike any other movie, maybe

1032
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: beyond uncut Gems, which we can also talk about. I

1033
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: felt like I was in the movie.

1034
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: Luke.

1035
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: I saw this thing twice, and the second time was

1036
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 2: even more uncomfortable. I'd never felt like that really before,

1037
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: at that level. The cinetamatography was so unique and amazing

1038
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: that I'm I'm the third soldier with them, I'm in

1039
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: the movie. But ultimately, there's almost an adventure side to

1040
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: this movie that feels almost like the Goonies for example. Right,

1041
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: there's a start, there's a finish, there's a mission. I mean,

1042
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: you can compare it to many movies that were like that,

1043
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: almost like a road trip, right like we start here,

1044
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: we end there. Maybe that's what maybe I fell in

1045
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: love with. That, mixed with the romanticized hero element of it,

1046
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: I just felt like Luke I was watching something so

1047
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: unique and special, And again you got to ask yourself,

1048
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: what are you looking to get out of a war movie?

1049
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: People just want as realistic a representation as possible. Other

1050
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: people just want carnage. We mentioned someone Some of these,

1051
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: like The Deer Hunter, for example, the elements of storytelling

1052
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: within the relationships of people go to next level. Certainly

1053
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 2: nineteen seventeen doesn't have that. Yeah, At the same time,

1054
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: Man Gaunt wrenching moving. I don't know, I felt like

1055
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: I was on an LSD trip or something watching that.

1056
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: It was a phenomenal movie. Again, I'm not gonna say

1057
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: bad things about it, but you asked me what I

1058
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: want out of a war movie. And again, military movies

1059
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: not the same as war movies. They can overlap, they

1060
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: can be very different.

1061
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, explain that. Explain that.

1062
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: So, for example, let's talk about easy cases. One military movie,

1063
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: A Few Good Men would be a military movie, but

1064
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do principally with conflict. On the

1065
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 1: other hand, as you mentioned, let's pick up with Saving

1066
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: Private Ryan, both a military and a war movie. But

1067
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: another movie I would consider a war movie that has

1068
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: some of a military overlap but not a ton would

1069
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 1: be like Zero Dark thirty, which is more about state

1070
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: versus terrorist kind of conflict. So it can actually go

1071
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of different places. Now, in the case of

1072
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: what my favorite war movie is and what I'm looking for.

1073
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: I've had many friends go to war. I have not,

1074
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: but I've had many friends who go to war. And

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00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: what I have noticed what appeals to me about war

1076
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: movies is it's it's sort of weird that you want

1077
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: to reinforce, but I suppose that you do is how

1078
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: it complicates you. So the one reasons why I like

1079
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: Simprev of Ryan is because you know, it's very realistic.

1080
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: We can all agree on that. But what it shows

1081
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: you is the hazards of war, which is how it

1082
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: can make people who ordinarily make good decisions make bad ones,

1083
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: like when Tom Hanks refuse to go around the German

1084
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: gun nest and then they lose the medic or when

1085
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: Upham refuses to save a colleague who gets stabbed because

1086
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: he just has cowardice in the end, and then and

1087
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: then somehow it kills the guy in the end but lives.

1088
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: So there's just like that, the fact that there's never

1089
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: really karma for bad for bad faith behavior doesn't show

1090
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: up that people can be morally complex. Where they you

1091
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: talk about in full middle jacket, you know, to see

1092
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: the world and meet interesting people and kill them. This

1093
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: duality when you deal with hazards where it's messy and

1094
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: you're good and you're bad and it works and it doesn't,

1095
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: and when you get that full breadth of a character.

1096
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for in a warm movie. So

1097
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: you might be asking, and please don't mock me on

1098
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: this man, because if you're gonna count, oh, we have

1099
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: to count the best filmmakers ever. If we're going to

1100
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: count war movies and who made them, like a Spielberg

1101
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: in this particular case, like a Mendez. The number one

1102
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: war movie for me of all time is got to

1103
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: be ran A Kiri Kurasawa. It's an eighties movie you're

1104
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: talking about. Okay, well, you're talking about maybe the best.

1105
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, a master, a master filmmaker. Seven Samurai

1106
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: is another great one that he made. His wife died

1107
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: during the making of this. At the time it was made,

1108
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: it was the most Japanese expensive Japanese movie ever. I mean,

1109
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: beautifully shot, incredibly acted, I mean everything about it is phenomenal.

1110
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: It's a story about a guy basically who spends all

1111
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: of this energy to build things and to make things happen,

1112
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: all for it to come crumbling down. And then when

1113
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: he sees how morally compromised he became to build it.

1114
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: He realizes the worthlessness in it all, and it is

1115
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: told in the most masterful of ways. Dude, that is

1116
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: a movie that you just cannot forget. You can get

1117
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: it for like two bucks on YouTube. I guess that's

1118
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: what we're looking by the way Last Thing Ran translates

1119
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: to chaos in Japanese.

1120
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: Look, I think Glory is a top five movie I've

1121
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: ever seen.

1122
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: Agree, So, Glory is amazing, But it's about.

1123
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: The it's about courage and heroism in the end, right

1124
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: and overcoming.

1125
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: So but War isn't principally about that exactly, so we'll

1126
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: think it is. It's not you know what.

1127
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: I what I ultimately in the end didn't love and

1128
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: wasn't willing to pick out the good of Platoon was

1129
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: that it's really just about how effed up war is.

1130
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: And I think there were other movies that did show

1131
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: you that. I mean, look, look, if you haven't seen

1132
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: The Deer Hunter, good Lord, is that a classic. It

1133
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: captures all of it inside of one. So I'm want

1134
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: to put that one right up there as well. And

1135
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: Full Metal Jacket is almost thing.

1136
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, fomenol Jacket is truly different. I would completely

1137
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: agree with that. It's it's almost two different movies.

1138
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: There marines in there in half of the movie. Is

1139
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: Parris Island? Is that comparable, Luke to your experience.

1140
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: Very yeah, very There are some differences in terms of

1141
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: some of the my nutia. Obviously, there are some practices

1142
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: that were put in place to reduce hazing of that kind.

1143
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: But the thing you call there, what's called a blanket

1144
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: party when you get hit with the soap, you know,

1145
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: that kind of thing does go on. Uh. And my

1146
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: understanding was, I don't know if this is true, but

1147
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: Arley Army, the guy who played the irrelevant gunnery sergeant there,

1148
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: was I think hired to be the trainer to an actor,

1149
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: like let's get this guy up to speed and then

1150
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: this is just urban legend. I do not know if

1151
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: this is true, but he was. Eventually the director realized

1152
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: I was a kubrick, that this guy was so good

1153
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: you didn't need an actor, and they just pulled him in.

1154
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: That's what I was told. I've never actually looked that up,

1155
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: so someone should look that up. But you can tell

1156
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: he was in the Marine Corps. He didn't know what

1157
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: he was talking about, and that's really the difference. So

1158
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: that's why it's like he's small little details like when

1159
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: a guy is marching up a hill aiming at a

1160
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: window and he's got a bolt action rifle and he's

1161
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: hitting at the target every time. I'm like, if you

1162
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: if you have, if you had someone in the military there,

1163
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: they would tell you you have to get a sniper

1164
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: to do.

1165
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: That ten more seconds. Because Jay's pushing me here, have

1166
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: you seen do you know about this Russian routte scene

1167
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: and the deer hunter?

1168
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Luke, Oh, who doesn't? My god, it's been a bit

1169
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: st a ridiculous scene.

1170
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that might that's got to be up

1171
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: there in the greatest scenes of all time. I mean,

1172
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: it's like and and also to close Apocalypse now is

1173
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean when you hear when you read there, you

1174
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: can almost make a movie about the making of that

1175
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: movie in terms of how you know, insane it was,

1176
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: how long it took, how uh Charlie Sheen's dad, Martin Sheen,

1177
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: was basically uh so drunk, almost died on it was

1178
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: really not acting in some of those scenes, Luke, when

1179
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: they slaughter the calf at the end and the whole.

1180
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: I mean that is uh. I mean it's brando.

1181
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean this is like.

1182
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: There's something special going on there. I look, I'm gonna

1183
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: go deeper, Okay, I like the American sniper. I know

1184
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: you talked about propaganda. I'm gonna keep going down this road. Okay.

1185
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: If you don't have if you don't have time for

1186
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: ran because you don't like subtitles, you still owe me one.

1187
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: You owe me one BC.

1188
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: I saw a parasite brother.

1189
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: Come on, that's pretty good, but skip that one. Letters

1190
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: from Ewojima Clint Eastwood made it about telling.

1191
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: What about the other side of that? Didn't east would make.

1192
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: A so so he made an American version in the

1193
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: Japanese version. I mean he made him both, but I

1194
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: should say American perspective in the Japanese perspective. The American

1195
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: perspective is Flags of our fathers terrible, not good. Here's

1196
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: what's interesting about Letters from Ego Jima, and then we'll

1197
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: move on from this. People don't realize this, but I've

1198
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: actually done some history on the initial battles of World

1199
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: War II between the Americans and predominantly the Marines and

1200
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: the Japanese. The initial set of ready to go. Soldiers

1201
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: on either side of the battle were roughly equivalently good,

1202
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: both in terms of tactics, machinery, understanding of warfare, battle plans.

1203
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean they were the early Japanese are the first

1204
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: run of the Japanese military. They were excellent soldiers. But

1205
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: what happened over time was the Americans were very good

1206
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: about taking an average citizen over time, giving them some

1207
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: training over the course of several months, sending them out

1208
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: to the battlefield, and they could perform quite ably. It

1209
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: turned out that Japanese were not so. While their first

1210
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: run officers and enlisted were excellent, when they began to

1211
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: die off, they had a hard time replacing them. It

1212
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: just took them a lot longer, and they were not

1213
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: as efficient at it. So you see that they were

1214
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: just drafting bakers and delivery boys and carpenters and then

1215
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: sticking them in these remote islands without good battle plans

1216
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: or tactics or warfare understanding. And this is at the

1217
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: end of the war between the Americans and the Japanese

1218
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: and they get stuck on Ewo Jima with its black sand.

1219
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: Holy crap, that movie is good.

1220
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: Got you next in my rotation? Okay, like Krisaara. I

1221
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: watched mad films, and if I did, they'd have a samurai.

1222
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: All right, look, it's been one week since you looked

1223
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: at me. Let's keep going ver Naked ladies, vernaked ladies. Reluctantly,

1224
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: I did drop. That's the nineties. There you go there,

1225
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: all right, let's do it.

1226
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Time for dms from docs. Do it now? Okay, I

1227
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: can't see the feed. Yeah, there it is now, I

1228
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: see it. All right, very good, and we're back. Okay,

1229
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: So here we go, BC. We'll go to you first.

1230
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Does this period count towards t this from Long Live

1231
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: and You? Does this period count towards TJ's doping pan?

1232
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: Good question, it's a morally honest question. At the moment,

1233
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say yes, Luke, because Dana's not trying to

1234
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: look at this as a as a respite or an

1235
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: extended break. We're gonna get fights quickly with that man.

1236
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, it counts. It all counts, Luke.

1237
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: It's just calendar time, that's all it is. It is

1238
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: just calendar time. Is the calendar time adding up or not?

1239
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: And yes it is? So the good news for him

1240
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: is yeah. Next we go to Mora Underscore MK Brian,

1241
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: This is of course for you. What do you guys

1242
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: think about wrestle Mania still happening next week at the

1243
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: WWE Performance Center.

1244
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: I was going to save part of this rant for

1245
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: odds and ends, but I'll give it to you right now.

1246
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: I think this is a really, really bad idea. Anybody

1247
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: that's watched WWE in the empty warehouse the last couple

1248
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: of weeks as they I mean, look a't ww Vince

1249
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: McMahon's style that the show must go on. We all

1250
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: remember when Owen Hart died in the middle of a

1251
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: pay per view and they just wheel the body out

1252
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: and they kept going. But this is almost to their detriment.

1253
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: This has been cringe TV watching them try to pull

1254
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: this off from an empty warehouse. Basically, now we're gonna

1255
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: do two nights of wrestling, and it's gonna be filmed

1256
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: like this week ahead of time, with potential for spoilers.

1257
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: You got to give. Whether you love or hate pro wrestling. Look,

1258
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: I covered it intensely last for years. I'm now taking

1259
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 2: a large step back. Still watch aw because they're on fire.

1260
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: But whatever you feel about that, Vince McMahon and company

1261
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: have made this WrestleMania brand incredibly special. Thirty six years

1262
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: into it, you know what you're getting. You're getting like

1263
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: an eight hour show, live music, celebrity crossover, epic matches

1264
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: and usually epic entrances, and so much of that is

1265
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: built around the idea of a seventy five thousand seat stadium.

1266
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: They haven't been inside an arena since two thousand, right,

1267
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: You remember the days in the nineties when they had

1268
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 2: no money and they were in the Hartford Civic Center

1269
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 2: of all places. At WrestleMania eleven. That's a long time ago.

1270
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: This is a show of shows, so to speak, and

1271
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it in a friggin warehouse. This is

1272
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: a time where Vince, you gotta take a step back.

1273
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: Bro Okay, you can do some other show instead. You

1274
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: gotta put WrestleMania off a couple months until we can

1275
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: get fans inside of there. I'm stepping back into that

1276
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: level of fandom, Luke, where I've been on and off,

1277
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: where maybe I'm not watching week to week, but I'm

1278
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: gonna watch Mania. You better believe it. It's in my blood.

1279
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how they are going to remotely make

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Speaker 2: this a memorable event or something that's worthy of the

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Speaker 2: of the time and effort put in. You tell stories

1282
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Speaker 2: all year to pay them off. At WrestleMania, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: do it in a warehouse like no, no, no Bro,

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Speaker 2: no bra no.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, but don't you still want to see

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: Tony Kudbi even if it's in a similar warehouse asque

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Speaker 1: kind of situation I do.

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Speaker 2: That's also now, Look, a live crowd in boxing in

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Speaker 2: MMA does play a lot into the passion, excitement, momentum

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01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: turns the broadcast the feeling. Yes, but it's so much

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Speaker 2: more in wrestling, you're playing off the fin I mean, look, look,

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: you may not know this right, and it's not so

1293
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: much as true now in ww because Vincic Man scripts everything.

1294
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: But back in the day, they would call these matches

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Speaker 2: on the fly, and if the fans were overly into

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01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: one person, you could switch the finish of the match

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Speaker 2: in motion, you know, in real time, and if anyone

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01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: saw Dwayne Johnson, The Rock just put out a long

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01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: video explaining the nuances of his classic WrestleMania eighteen match

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01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: with Hulk Hogan. He breaks down in there how he

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Speaker 2: became a bad guy in the middle of that match

1302
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: because they didn't expect the crowd to be so into

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01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: old Man Hogan at that moment, so they switched on

1304
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: the fly. In wrestling, you need that. You can't do

1305
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: it with an empty couple rows of bleachers. So I

1306
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: don't care what tricks they're gonna pull off, this is

1307
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: gonna be lame.

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Speaker 1: What is your theory about how UFC and WrestleMania might

1309
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: be getting beat up by wrestling media for doing or

1310
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: MMA media for doing what they did, but that the

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01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: larger media seems to be utterly unconcerned. I mean, if

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: they had any other sporting entity was still going, even

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01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: in a reduced capacity like this, they'd be getting raked

1314
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: over the coals. Yeah, how come they're avoiding all them?

1315
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: Because, as Bert the Great Late Bert Sugar said about boxing,

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01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 2: it's the red light district of sports. So MMA falls

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: into that, pro wrestling falls into that. It's combat sports.

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01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: There's still luke. You know, we're only so far into

1319
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: the history of the UFC. Combat sports in general is

1320
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: still looked at as oh, those crazy guys over there,

1321
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: like that's why when you know, Floyd Mayweather or any

1322
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: other major boxer can say incredibly non PC things over

1323
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: a microphone and we just go, Yeah, this is boxing,

1324
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 2: this is a fight game. Tom Brady says that it'd

1325
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: be a national crisis. Luke, Hey, how about Tom Brady

1326
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: on the Bucks? You fired up?

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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: I can't wait for him to just get I mean

1328
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: sacked left and right makes me so excited. Fuck him. Okay.

1329
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Next we go to Andrew Shei Kong Tao. I think

1330
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying that right to Kong Tao, what are your

1331
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: thoughts regarding this summer's Olympic Games given where we are

1332
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: with the coronavirus pandemic. If not this summer, because we

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: kind of addressed this earlier BC, when could they realistically

1334
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: do it considering pro athletes may partake in their professional

1335
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: leagues by the fall. I mean, here's the deal. I

1336
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: don't see how you can do it later in the year, Brian,

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01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: I think, and it would change fundamentally the nature of

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: the Olympics. By the way, it would also change you

1339
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: don't care about this, but the biggest tournament South American

1340
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: soccer is called the Copa Americo. It's a big deal.

1341
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: When Brazil plays Argentina plays Columbia plays you know, Chile,

1342
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards, they're going to have to just

1343
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: put it off by a year. I don't see any

1344
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: other way because what people are complaining about is they're

1345
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: barely able to train. And even if you put it

1346
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: back later in the year, now, who's going to be

1347
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,959
Speaker 1: able to go? Whether there's overlap between that and professional leagues.

1348
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Remember the Olympics that used to be about this amateurism

1349
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: ideal that has completely gone away. It is very much

1350
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: a for profit business, and having a for profit business

1351
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: means having the kind of stars that you can either

1352
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: create or use to further that business. My answer is

1353
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: Tokyo twenty twenty one PC.

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01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: I think you could push it to the end of

1355
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: the year if things optimistically turn for the better, Luke.

1356
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: We've seen Summer Olympics in the past go off in

1357
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: late August or September, if that meant it had to

1358
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: for scheduling purposes, for weather purposes, all that, I think

1359
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: you can push this toward the end of the year. Look,

1360
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be optimist. I'm trying to always hit

1361
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: the middle ground, Luke, But.

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01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: How do you do that? How do you do that

1363
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: if the NBA is in full swing there, I mean,

1364
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna get no one to participate in the United States.

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: This may be a situation where you just don't use

1366
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: NBA players this time around. I just think, Look, there's

1367
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: certain I know what you're saying. It is a business

1368
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: at the end, but you also need fans for an

1369
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: Olympics to truly feel like it matters. If you push

1370
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: it off toward the end of the year, what's the

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01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: weather like there, they could make it happen.

1372
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: Look, Tokyo'll be cold as shit.

1373
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: All right, Maybe you're right, Maybe we come around the corner.

1374
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: Maybe.

1375
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: Look, I think, like WRESTLEMANI, although it's hard to compare

1376
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: wrestle MANNI in the Olympics, I'd rather have them do

1377
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: it right than force it. Can you force Tony Habibi?

1378
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: You kind of? Can you can?

1379
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: Luke Well, I'm not even sure that's true. But is

1380
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: it easier to do a one fight in a warehouse

1381
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: and YouTube it or whatever, versus putting on an Olympic

1382
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: Games where people from all over the world are coming,

1383
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: both as spectators and athletes. They have to be housed

1384
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: in the Olympic village. Can you imagine if someone got

1385
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen in the Olympic village right among the athletes,

1386
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: and how it would spread to the other athlete.

1387
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: I mean, would you know what those athletes like to

1388
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: do in the village, Luke.

1389
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, she bang, he banged, they bang. You got

1390
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: orgies up in there. It's like Caligula, for for God's sake,

1391
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: So there's no way you could get away with that.

1392
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: It would just be a nightmare. You gotta wait till

1393
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: this thing is has been. You gotta wait till this

1394
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: virus is at his ass kicked, and right now it's

1395
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: doing the ass kicking. Uh okay from an vic Right's

1396
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: Luke Bryan. As a steam gentleman that work from home,

1397
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: do you have any tips for all the whimps working remotely?

1398
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: I try to keep the tips covered.

1399
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: For the most part, I've got discovered because I predominantly

1400
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: work from home. You did too. I suppose this this

1401
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: one to me is kind of easy, which is you

1402
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, you should get in your work

1403
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: clothes when you go to your office. Here's two pieces

1404
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: of advice I would give BC would love to hear yours.

1405
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: Two pieces. One you can kind of wear whatever you want.

1406
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: But getting up on a routine where if I normally

1407
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: got up for work and like say seven thirty. Maybe

1408
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: you can fudget to eight. But you get up at eight,

1409
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: and you get up and you go to your routine,

1410
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: and you are at work on your particular device at

1411
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: the same time you would be had you been at

1412
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: a commute. You should do that, and that means showering,

1413
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: eating breakfast, brushing your teeth, putting on a fresh pair

1414
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: of clothes. It could be sweatpants, but just making that

1415
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: mental transition. Second part is to the extent possible, don't

1416
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: work in your bedroom. Go to your living room. If

1417
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: you've got a multi layered house or whatever, go to

1418
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: the basement, go to the top floor, whatever. Don't just

1419
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: sit in your computer, flip open the laptop in your pjs,

1420
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: because everything then we'll just bleed together. Create some walls,

1421
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: if not literal walls, b ce mental walls of separation,

1422
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: so that when you go back to bed it feels

1423
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: like what it always has been, something different from work.

1424
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to take breaks, and when you take

1425
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: these breaks, your phone can't be anywhere near you, even

1426
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: though there's that pull on you to have to be

1427
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: there in case something happens. This is a real deal.

1428
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: Luke I worked at ESPN for twelve years. Always in

1429
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: the office, and you didn't. I didn't realize at the

1430
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: time how important it was. You know, you're walking on

1431
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: a giant campus, You're saying hi to fifty people a day.

1432
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: And then when you don't have that. When I got

1433
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: hired by CBS in twenty seventeen and I'm right here

1434
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: in this basement, dude, I'm straight up fell into a

1435
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: legit and deep depression during winter for about nine months.

1436
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: And you need the human interaction, You need a schedule.

1437
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: So all those tips you said are legit. You don't

1438
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: want to be working right when you wake up in

1439
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: your bed, none of that stuff. But you need to

1440
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: get away from your house. I've found, Luke, So I

1441
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: walked the dogs at length before starting work. At the

1442
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: end of the workday, I try to either go for

1443
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: a walk myself or just get in the car and

1444
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 2: go get gas and loop around the town or the

1445
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: surrounding towns to have that time to compress and let

1446
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: it all out, because you know, my commute from work

1447
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: to home is like six steps right over my shoulder here,

1448
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: and you can bring that stress or that that uh,

1449
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 2: you know, that conflicted mind from here right to the

1450
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: dinner table and then you know there's there's conflict and

1451
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: all that stuff. You gotta work hard to stay sane.

1452
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: Working from home. When you get in that rhythm, it's great, Luke.

1453
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: When the weather's nice, I'll think the laptop out in

1454
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: the backyard, dogs running around, life is really good. But

1455
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: you got to treat it seriously because it'll get you, Luke,

1456
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 2: It'll bite you right up from the back end.

1457
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: Luke. I actually prefer working from home. So what happened

1458
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: was I was working at Espionation when oh I was

1459
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: working for Espanation dot com for Voxmedia when they created

1460
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: vox dot com and that was the political site. And

1461
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: what happened was they brought it a bunch of people

1462
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: into the newsroom. Did you work in a newsroom that

1463
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: was an open newsroom? Yes, well, okay, which is just

1464
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: the worst design for an office imaginable. And that's not

1465
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: the fault per se of Espianation, because that is just

1466
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 1: a consensus thinking at the time about what makes for

1467
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: great offices, because we're going to be collaborative at our

1468
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: open office, and what it ends up being is just

1469
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: incredibly distracting. So when the Vox people came over, they

1470
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: were making phone calls all day long in ways that

1471
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: the Espionation folks were not necessarily two different business models

1472
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: between reporting and the kind of reporting they were doing.

1473
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: And I just found it insanely distracted because I had

1474
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: to make phone calls too, and I just hated it.

1475
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: So I just said, you know what, I want to

1476
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: start working from home Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And we were

1477
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: running out of space in the newsroom. Anyway, my boss

1478
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: has said yes, and then over time it just became

1479
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: basically every day. I find your mileage may vary, Brian,

1480
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: but I find I'm more productive, I can get more done,

1481
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm happier. You're right about getting fresh air, though, man,

1482
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 1: you gotta get if you don't have dogs, take a walk,

1483
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: sit outside, have lunch outside, do something, get some vitamin

1484
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: D from the sun, right, feel that on your face,

1485
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: because as humans you need that a little bit. Joe

1486
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 1: Rogan talks about nature bathing, you know, being around a forest,

1487
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: feeling that on you. It's good for your mental health,

1488
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: you know.

1489
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: And I gotta do not disturb sign that I put

1490
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: on the outside of the door, because look, you know,

1491
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: I could be in the middle of something creative, writing

1492
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: a story, being right in the middle of it. And

1493
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: you know, Missus Campbell could walk in and be like,

1494
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: you gotta take the trash out, and it's like, you know,

1495
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: you got to have those borders up. And also to close, Luke,

1496
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 2: my wife always tells me go to Starbucks for a

1497
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: few hours. Dude, just sitting around people, you get a

1498
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: certain buzz off that that you never would imagine. H

1499
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: And last, you hate people, Luke, So this is not

1500
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: part of your formula.

1501
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: But I don't hate people. I don't hate people, Brian Campbell.

1502
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: I just hate most people.

1503
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1504
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Brian, I'm gonna pitch this one to you. This

1505
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 1: ought'll be fun. This comes to us from ks K

1506
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: stu BP. One of the big three novels in the

1507
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: English language of the twentieth century. Which do you find

1508
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: the best? Ulysses by James Joyce, Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pinchan,

1509
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 1: or Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace BC.

1510
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: You're speaking Chinese, Luke.

1511
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: Have you not read any of them? No?

1512
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 3: No?

1513
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: I got The Great Gatsby once? All right twice?

1514
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: Did you like it?

1515
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 2: Love the Great Gatsby? Love it?

1516
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: That's a good book? Actually, right? What is your favorite

1517
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: fiction book that you've read.

1518
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: Not a big fiction guy, Luke, Probably not surprising.

1519
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: And then neither am I. So I'm with you on

1520
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: that one. I'm bad at that one too.

1521
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: I mean I spent my youth like memorizing sports encyclopedias

1522
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: and Guinness Book of World Records and crap like that.

1523
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: You know, I crave Wikipedia has become you know, you

1524
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: can go down long. I crave information, Luke. Okay, I

1525
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: have trouble in fiction.

1526
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: You know, I like you any you have any fiction

1527
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: books you've read that you like think about fondly. I mean, dude,

1528
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm not a fiction guy. I think

1529
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 1: it's probably a bit of a blind spot for me.

1530
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: But I do have some fiction books that I look

1531
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: back on pretty fondly.

1532
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't even name twenty thousand Leagues under the Sea,

1533
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: loved it in the sixth grade, Luke, I got nothing

1534
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 2: for you, Okay. Exposed to me.

1535
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: Luke, No, Well, this person exposed me too. Because this

1536
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: is a blind spot for me. I'd have two. I

1537
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: would say the Sound in the Fury by Faulkner has

1538
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: been one that really stuck with me, and some Twain books,

1539
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: I suppose, but Grapes of Wrath. Steinbeck Grapes of Wrath

1540
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: was one that really and you want.

1541
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: To start the m K book Club, I'll read your

1542
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: Grapes of Wrath. Okay, yeah, but I my.

1543
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: Book club would not be fiction. I mean there is

1544
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: there's a and I've read you listenings of the of

1545
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: the three of these I've not written, and that was

1546
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: an incredibly difficult read. James Joyce writes in this sort

1547
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: of like stream of consciousness that it's hard to follow.

1548
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: But in any event, it's a it's it's a weak

1549
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: point for me too, dude, It's not it's not a

1550
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: strong suit. But I've read, I've read a couple of

1551
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:34,480
Speaker 1: the classics.

1552
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: I have a passion for what's real. That's what I'm

1553
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: searching for.

1554
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: What is Even when you said nineteen seventy was your

1555
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: favorite movie.

1556
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, it's my favor It's my favorite movie, Okay,

1557
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: because it's because it's real.

1558
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: Sort of all right, it's time now where we dance

1559
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: on sprockets and we look at dongs. It's time for

1560
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell's tavor part of the show. Let's see it, buddy, what.

1561
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: You got animation? There we go animation and all right,

1562
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: you know how it works. We scolar the globe for

1563
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: the best, the worst, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

1564
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: In combat sports and beyond. We haven't had much combat sports, Luke,

1565
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: you love human on animal violence. We haven't had any

1566
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: spinny head kicks from mma. How about from the farm?

1567
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: Check out this back kick from this horse.

1568
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: God, Oh, that is too great, dude.

1569
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: That's that's CTE worthy right there. Shot back is awesome.

1570
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh buddy, they are violent animals when they need to be.

1571
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: Luke, I'm afraid we love that. That is so great.

1572
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of God, speaking of your you have another job,

1573
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: so we got to go quickly. Speaking of violent animals here, Luke,

1574
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: how about this rich guy in the lacrosse field. Look

1575
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: at this guy the big continent right here, just taking

1576
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: fools off.

1577
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: Look at look at William refrigerator smith over here, just

1578
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: running these fools over.

1579
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh is this payback for the dupe duke rape that

1580
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 2: never happened, Luke, Dude.

1581
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: Uh, that's the toughest skyler I've ever seen in my life.

1582
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: God, all right, Luke, we roll onto the rugby field.

1583
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: How about Jorge Taufua with the hit of the year

1584
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: the season just started.

1585
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: Dude, rugby is a vicious game. Ah, that's a dude,

1586
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: that's a clean tackle. Look at that.

1587
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: What was that segment ESPN used to have before they

1588
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: feared concussions?

1589
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 1: Oh it was uh Jay, you remember that, like you

1590
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: got you got something or oh damn or something like that.

1591
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: You got served something like jay?

1592
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: What was it?

1593
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: ESPN used to do it?

1594
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: Jack jacked up?

1595
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got jacked up? All right, Luke. We don't

1596
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: have many sports highlights. We do have a lot of

1597
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen season highlights here. Look, every man needs his

1598
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: own space, especially during uh Corona season. Check out this

1599
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: man cave this guy Bill. You're done with this Asian

1600
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: fella here, Luke.

1601
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: Bro this is how they got Sodom Hussein. Remember that. Yes,

1602
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: he was down in that little hole Alison Chain style.

1603
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 2: You can't even see him there, Luke. That's great.

1604
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what does he have down there? Nothing? He

1605
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: just has a little room to sit.

1606
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: He's got a peace of mind. By the way, my

1607
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: friend's dad growing up, he lived around the corner from me.

1608
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: For years. You'd always talk about, Oh my dad. Every

1609
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: night he's down in the basement drinking Miller high life

1610
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: listening to the Yankees games, and I always assumed Luke,

1611
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: having been friends with this guy for like ten years,

1612
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: that his dad had this ultimate man cave with plush

1613
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: couches and a speaker system and whatever.

1614
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: You know what.

1615
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: One of the saddest moments of life was one day

1616
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 2: when we were adults, going down in the basement. It

1617
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: was a create a transistor, radio and a beer fridge.

1618
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, one man's uh, you know, look,

1619
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: don't man cave. Shame, don't do that. Everyone's got their

1620
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: own man cave.

1621
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: Got to be friendly, especially you guys with the military

1622
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 2: PTSD and all that. Luke to all respect to you guys.

1623
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it sounds like you have none, but okay,

1624
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: all right.

1625
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: Hey let's roll on here. Hey, Corona season, new Arcade

1626
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: games out there, Luke, take your daughter to this, Luke, right,

1627
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: just in case it's a good prize in there.

1628
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: Dude, those things never work, those things, All those things

1629
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: are like the lottery. They're just rigged. You have no

1630
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: chance of winning that thing.

1631
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: No chance. How are you doing on TP? How's your

1632
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: how's your rs?

1633
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: Luke? Totally fine, We're good. I have to double ply

1634
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. Bro.

1635
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 2: All right, this toilet paper says in the fear of

1636
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 2: it is rolling on. How about this card game, Luke?

1637
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: Those are high stakes, bro.

1638
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: People are acting like they're in prison these days. I mean,

1639
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: I guess Australia had a legitimate shortage. Are you Are

1640
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: you having any trouble finding toilet paper?

1641
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 3: No?

1642
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: No, well, now, my my wife's stocked up well in advanced.

1643
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: It's a costco mentality, bro.

1644
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 1: You want you want to pro tip for our audience,

1645
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: and this is honestly true. Number one, you can order

1646
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: them off Amazon. Do it in advance, not prime now,

1647
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: but do it in advance. Secondly, and I'm being dead serious, dude,

1648
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: go to your local Latin supermarket. The shelves are all

1649
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 1: fully stock.

1650
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: Are you trying to say Latin people don't clean their

1651
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: their backside?

1652
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: No, but they haven't reacted with the same level of

1653
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: panic by that all.

1654
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: So, what you're saying to go to a seatown? Look,

1655
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: if you're at a seatown, you're in the ghetto, Luke.

1656
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: No, you can go to a what was the one

1657
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: I went to the other day that was by my house.

1658
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: It was over there in Cucumba Park. I forget the

1659
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: name of it, but all the shelves are completely stocked.

1660
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 2: Right by the way, that guy at the poker table,

1661
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: he definitely had a shitty hand. All right, Luke, let's

1662
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: roll on here. Grocery store, slim pickings, Luke, you go

1663
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: to try to get meat or produce, this is what

1664
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: you end up with. Look at that, Luke, I don't

1665
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 2: know if that's dinner or a date. Check out the

1666
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: lady's face right there. I hate you.

1667
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: I hate you completely, Luke.

1668
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: The pickings or even slimmer at the meat case. Check

1669
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: this out, Luke.

1670
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: Oh if you saw that at the grocery store, you'd

1671
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: be like, what cut is from the butcher?

1672
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 3: Is this?

1673
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: I must have ten of them?

1674
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: That is gross. That is the full Yeah, here's a

1675
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: pro tip. Don't touch that. Wow, not even the tip?

1676
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: All right?

1677
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: Also, what is the what is the cut there? What

1678
01:17:59,640 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: is that?

1679
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: Uh dog?

1680
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: That's a huge dog.

1681
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: Bro.

1682
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn right, damn bro. Look at the unit on

1683
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: that bull. All right, Luke, we're gonna go to one championship.

1684
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: They're still fighting. So here's when spinny shit goes wrong.

1685
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: Look at this fella. Oh no, why does everybody think

1686
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: they can spin Luke, you can't just that looks like

1687
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: Edward Follyang.

1688
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if that it is, but it looks

1689
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: like him.

1690
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, fighting has been banned in most cages. So

1691
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: now we're gonna go to the uh the truck stop.

1692
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: Here's some redneck rumbling here outside the eighteen wheeler. Check

1693
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 2: out the guy in the blue shirt. He's the he's

1694
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: the antagonist. He's pushing it. And then watch these crappy

1695
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: hammer fist he's about to break out.

1696
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: Why does he have why does he have a bluetooth set?

1697
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, but this old guy's about to send

1698
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: him to hell.

1699
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: Say let him know, old man, don't take that ship. Wow,

1700
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: he's he's about to stomp him out. Look at all.

1701
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: But they were but they fell on sawdust. They're good,

1702
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: you know what? Fighting on sawdust? I just say. People

1703
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 1: just ask me, what's your role of the street fights.

1704
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: The answer is a number of circumstances. Usually I let

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01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: it play out. I would definitely let it play out

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01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:06,520
Speaker 1: in one of these circumstances.

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01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't need to call on that guy in the

1708
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: ground because he probably had the same dinner I did.

1709
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Once he got off. Luke let's be honest about this.

1710
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: Right now, truck stops great place to find food.

1711
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: Be that guy that cut of meat, that dog that

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01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: he had earlier, he'd be all right.

1713
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, let's move on. Check out this guy

1714
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 2: left hook, Larry. You ever see a fight break out

1715
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: during traffic? This guy's got one move, Luke, But it's working, Loia.

1716
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: This says fools to hell.

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01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: Dude, what is this? Wow? This white guy has got

1718
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: the most off balanced, ridiculous left hook.

1719
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: He's got hands of stone, Luke, this is amazing. Monos

1720
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 2: padre over here.

1721
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: I like that.

1722
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: Wow, this looks like spring break, Luke. People are just

1723
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 2: asking for Corona down there.

1724
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: On the floor. You got Corona, You got Corona?

1725
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke. They had a fight last week in South Africa.

1726
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: You ever hear of this promotion EFC Extreme Fighting.

1727
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: Champion in South Africa? Yeah? All right?

1728
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 2: Shallumba mckixie is the fella on the left. Watch this

1729
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 2: upper cut from hell all that he gives to August Cayambala.

1730
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: Uh uh boom shot bottom of the old rearhand.

1731
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: Oh and he gave him the motumbo at the end. No, no, no, no, no,

1732
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 2: Who wants to sex?

1733
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: Who who watched two Sexier?

1734
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: Speaking of sexing, Luke, do you ever wonder how Tiger

1735
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: was able to hide his hose for a long time?

1736
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: From Elin? Apparently?

1737
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: You just what is?

1738
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: Wait? What?

1739
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 1: Bro? Are you watching Tiger King on Netflix?

1740
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: I hear I shard Brandon Wise from CBS Sports is

1741
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: all over? Yeah, Wise, man, I'll watch it all right, bro, dude.

1742
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: It is. It is the most batshit insane people you've

1743
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: ever seen in your life.

1744
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: Is this art or is this just naked ladies hiding?

1745
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: Because this is a great party trick.

1746
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: Haven't you heard that? A tiger stripes or natural camouflage?

1747
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: I guess so, I guess.

1748
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 1: Look at that's like the Chinese dragons on New Year's

1749
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to some party tricks, Luke.

1751
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: I think they call this a three beer manti. Oh no,

1752
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: first we got white men can John Bluke check this

1753
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: out out?

1754
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: Dude? That howky can move?

1755
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the deal. Jay thinks this is an

1756
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: eight foot hoop like the movie above the Rim. Remember

1757
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: when Leon came out and corduroy pantson was doing windmills

1758
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: on that eight foot.

1759
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even then, look at it. Look just measure

1760
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: his ankles to the floor.

1761
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at how the ease he goes high.

1762
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: But Luke, I mean you claim that you could dunk

1763
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: in high school. I think like you this. I guarantee

1764
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: this guy is no basketball game like you can only

1765
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: do this. But it's impressive, Luke.

1766
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he's athletic. He's athletic for sure.

1767
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: Look at this gir pit. Aren't pit in the rim?

1768
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: Yep?

1769
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 2: Nasty Wow. Shout out to that white man, right wow,

1770
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 2: Billy Hoe, take it to the hole, Billy Hoe. All right, Luke, let's.

1771
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: How come I see a lot of white dudes dunk

1772
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: on Instagram and I just don't see that in games

1773
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: like I don't care if you can dunk on Instagram anymore.

1774
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Put that ship in the game, bro.

1775
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, party tricks time? Can

1776
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: we roll on here?

1777
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: Can we?

1778
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 3: Jay?

1779
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: Can we go to the next slide?

1780
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: Here?

1781
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: Check out this three beer manti. This guy might have

1782
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: a future in adult films, Luke, check this out.

1783
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: Oh, are we now moving on from not really the

1784
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: observation of phallic objects, but to now the reception of

1785
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 1: phallic objects?

1786
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: You're not impressed by this, Luke?

1787
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: By this jackass whose mouth is big enough to swallow

1788
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: three beers no.

1789
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: One time in the woods in ninety four, Luke, I

1790
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: saw a kid drink eleven Budweiser cans in twelve minutes

1791
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: and then throw up for like another half hour. That's impressive.

1792
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: It's one version of impressive. Yes, all right, all right, all.

1793
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: Right, last slide here. Check out this guy. This guy

1794
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: is all of us. Look, this guy will be you

1795
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: in probably twenty years. Okay, we got a public workout class.

1796
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: Look at yep jazzer size.

1797
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: Check it out guy. Yes, yes, Luke, dude, old dudes

1798
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: are the best because they just no longer give a fuck.

1799
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: If we look at it as like in reality, that

1800
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: guy's a creeper and he's building material for later. But

1801
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, look at that guy, he's the best.

1802
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: Oh he's so cute, Louke, dude.

1803
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: This is basically me on Instagram anyway.

1804
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: That's a fair point. That's why a lot of grudges

1805
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: against Juana like you do, right, because I follow on Instagram.

1806
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to say, that's I can't judge this man.

1807
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: It's no better than what I do on digital.

1808
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, Oddsena's real quick because you've got another

1809
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 2: job and you get really angry about it. What do

1810
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: you got?

1811
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, well I have things to do. But that

1812
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: being said, my odds and ends for this week would

1813
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: be for USADA, who continue to act and they totally

1814
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: shameful behavior even alarming other anti doping experts around the world.

1815
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: They have announced this week that they're going to begin

1816
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: testing predominantly things that are mission critical for the Tokyo Games,

1817
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: games by the way, that are in all likelihood not

1818
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: going to happen, and that they were still going to

1819
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: test people full in the UFC. Now, what they had

1820
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: said was, you know, where applicable, we're going to have,

1821
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, protective gear like gloves or something else. But

1822
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: they don't say how much there is. Number one. Number two,

1823
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,879
Speaker 1: how do you blood test if according to the regulations

1824
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: they're going to keep six feet from everybody? Number three?

1825
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: Why is it wise for people in the middle of

1826
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: a global pandemic to be engaged in this behave where

1827
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: you have to go around town, potentially fly to different

1828
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: areas to get there. Certainly drive potential distances, come into

1829
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: contact with the publican ways that is not advisable. To

1830
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: test for events that are not happening. You saw it

1831
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: continues to show that they don't believe that they have

1832
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: as much responsibility as all the other actors in the

1833
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: sports space to maintain standards in public health. They are

1834
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: above it. They are beyond it, and in their view

1835
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: seems to be they don't abide by the same rules

1836
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: to make their own.

1837
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: So you sawa, how about you test Lorenzo Fortita. Let's

1838
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: find out what he's on. All right, Luke, we got

1839
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: to get out of here quickly. Did you see this

1840
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: tweet from Triple H last night throwing shade at Deontay Wilder?

1841
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: You got this Jay really fast?

1842
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: Do you see this? I did? Jay? Does Jay have

1843
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: it there?

1844
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: It is?

1845
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: He's relating to WrestleMania thirty being replayed on ESPN last

1846
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: night and the forty five pound costume.

1847
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: It's not you know what is not a bad saying.

1848
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: And I saw the thing he was wearing. When was that,

1849
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: by the way, that was a.

1850
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen wrestle Mania thirty.

1851
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, he had a big get up on too.

1852
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter.

1853
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: He doesn't get up every year. We want to close

1854
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: with this. Did you see Gronk was announced as the

1855
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: host of Rustuming there's triple ah. Shout out to that

1856
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: right there. Yeah, Rob Gronkowski was announced as the host

1857
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: of this Coming WrestleMania and they did an empty studio

1858
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: entrance for him on SmackDown and it was cringe ass balls.

1859
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: That's Mojo Riley slapping some a right there. Did you

1860
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: see this guy's dance? Can we speed up the video?

1861
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Check out this awfulness?

1862
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think Gronk is interesting.

1863
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. Do you know what makes him interesting? Luke,

1864
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: besides being a physical freak that he usually shows up

1865
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: in front of like scantily clad women and does weird

1866
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: backflips and stuff. Do you have the video of his

1867
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: entrance or no?

1868
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: Jay there?

1869
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: It is, Oh boy, look at this and when there's

1870
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: no crowd to even give fake cheers on their Yeah, well,

1871
01:25:58,680 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: hey he had a good run.

1872
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: Okay, what is he doing?

1873
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. Hey, he turned out better than her

1874
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: name if he wasn't if.

1875
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: He wasn't a well, I mean, Jesus Christ, oj turned

1876
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: out better than Aaron her Nada as a certain capacities.

1877
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: But if he wasn't athletic, he'd be the biggest NERD

1878
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: loser or Dana White would be mad at him for

1879
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: being MMA media. I mean that's who he would be.

1880
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: All right, Before you get angry, we had I gotta.

1881
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 2: I just want to shout out one more time, Luke.

1882
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 2: Shout out to all of our great listeners. We had

1883
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: so many people that love the show and viewers and

1884
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: viewers viewers as well. Shout out to the folks. Can

1885
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 2: I get a consuming here, yeah, shout out. Shout out

1886
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: to the folks at Murderers Row who hooked us up

1887
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: with some fine swag right there. They love the show.

1888
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 2: We love our supporters here, Luke. I mean, look, you

1889
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 2: want to send me something, send it all right, all right,

1890
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: I'll drink it, I'll wear it, I'll eat it. Let's

1891
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: do it.

1892
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I have to get going, But let

1893
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: me say this. I should have say at the top

1894
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: of the show. I didn't. If you've made it this far,

1895
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: please give the video a thumbs up. Subscribe, Subscribe, subscribe

1896
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: to the channel. Keep those numbers pushing you. See what

1897
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: the folks at show Time and Malka have done trying

1898
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: to bring as much normalcy to this program as they can.

1899
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: We'll get better and better at this. You see all

1900
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: the social links below, the follow for us individually, me

1901
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: and BC as well as the channel, and tell folks

1902
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: about us. Let them know. Word of mouth still the

1903
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: best kind of marketing. And I forgot my mug BC,

1904
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I left at the studio. I won't get it now

1905
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: for months. I'm saying, it's got Corona. It's got Corona, bro,

1906
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: we got that rona player.

1907
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 2: Okay. BC.

1908
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: For folks will want to get more of your stuff.

1909
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: By the way, on CBS Sports, what do they do

1910
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: for that? By the way, they can just follow you?

1911
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, follow me at b Campbell, CBS on Twitter.

1912
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: Check out my podcast The State of Combat every week,

1913
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: Boxing MMA a lot of fun, big big interview this

1914
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 2: week with Chris Jericho of wrestling fame. Check that out.

1915
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Luke very good and please keep in mind I do

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Speaker 1: the Luke Tamas Show five days a week. I've got

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Speaker 1: an interview with Derek Thompson coming out by the time

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Speaker 1: that today from The Atlantic magazine, and a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of other stuff as well. So BC's stay safe, keep

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Speaker 1: the barracks living. I might have a shaved head by

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Speaker 1: this time next week. Dude, I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: hell I'm gonna do. I need your tips, the videos

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Speaker 1: you saw and how to cut your own hair.

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Speaker 2: I say you need my tips, Louke, can we stop?

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Speaker 2: Can we just can we just stop the show right now?

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Speaker 2: All right? The snow tip to tip during Corona season.

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Speaker 1: Bro, your tip to tip thing is going to define

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Speaker 1: your entire life. But okay, we got to get out

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Speaker 1: of here. That's BC. I'm Luke Thomas for everyone who's

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Speaker 1: in the production team and show time and beyond, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys watching, and until next time, may all of

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Speaker 1: your gains be loyal.

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Speaker 2: Moe Monroe is wanting for the financial terrorist attack Black Monday.

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Speaker 2: Black Monday was my idea.

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Speaker 1: It's me.

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Speaker 2: It was wall Creet himself.