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Speaker 1: Smell us now, Lady, Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia.

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Speaker 2: The Meta podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our special Thanksgiving episode of Meat Eater Radio Live.

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Speaker 3: It's the day before Thanksgiving, coming to you, not quite

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Speaker 3: live from the Meat Eater HQ in Bozeman, Montana, because

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Speaker 3: we're not coming to work on Thanksgiving Day. We love

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Speaker 3: you all, we love our jobs, we love this wonderful company,

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Speaker 3: but no thank you. I'm your host, Randall Williams and

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Speaker 3: we're joined today by Seth Morris and Corey Caulkins. We've

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Speaker 3: got a great show for you today. We're going to

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Speaker 3: discuss our favorite Turkey Day cuisine with the turkey in

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Speaker 3: the room, We're going to take a look at a

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Speaker 3: few listener dishes. We're going to talk to Steve Klein

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Speaker 3: of the Eastern Shoreland Concern, and we've got a migration

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Speaker 3: report from Matt McCormick. We've got another regrettable tattoo. We've

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Speaker 3: got one minute fishing, and then finally the highly anticipated

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Speaker 3: Meat Eater Movie Club, where we'll be discussing the nineteenth

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Speaker 3: ninety seven survival thriller The Edge. First, I want to

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Speaker 3: take a quick pull, Seth, Corey, you guys have any

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving traditions that involve hunting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do one that started recently, meaning last year,

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Speaker 4: just the buddies get together and do like a whitetail

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Speaker 4: haunt of some sort. Last year was with me, my

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Speaker 4: buddy Sam and Chester, and Chester actually killed a thirteen

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Speaker 4: point buck on Thanksgiving morning.

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Speaker 3: A thirteen pointer. Yeah, so this is a tradition that

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Speaker 3: has happened once.

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Speaker 4: Well we're doing it this year again. We're doing a

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Speaker 4: big dough hunt this year.

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Speaker 3: I think you're kind of counting your chickens before they hatch.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's happening, Corey.

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Speaker 3: What about you. You're not on the camera, but we'll

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Speaker 3: just pretend.

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Speaker 5: If you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I certainly have a tradition that's kind of been paused,

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Speaker 6: I guess since I've had a kid, which is who's

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Speaker 6: six year old? Six years old? So I can't wait

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Speaker 6: to bring this tradition back to life. But growing up

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Speaker 6: in western Montana, we would always go out to eastern

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Speaker 6: Montana every Thanksgiving weekend and go mule deer hunting. So

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to pick that back up here in

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Speaker 6: a couple of years with my kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be fun.

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Speaker 3: We have a Thanksgiving tradition in our house, but it's

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Speaker 3: hunting for bargains, especially when there's a great Black Friday sale.

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Speaker 3: Just a reminder for all you listeners, we've got the

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Speaker 3: Meat Eater Black Friday Sale going on now, our biggest

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Speaker 3: savings of the year, up to fifty percent off your

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Speaker 3: favorite gear across our Meat Eater brands, and that sale

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Speaker 3: is ongoing now through Monday, December second. So if you're

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Speaker 3: looking for a Christmas gift for special someone, or you're

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Speaker 3: just like me and you want to buy stuff that

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Speaker 3: you've always wanted to buy all year long, but you

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Speaker 3: couldn't justify it because maybe it was just a too expensive,

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Speaker 3: you can get it now on a discount and your

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Speaker 3: conscious will be clear.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Joining us in the studio is a very special guest.

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Speaker 3: We have Broken the Turkey, accompanied by our colleague Connor Smith,

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Speaker 3: who's an associate at the Meat Eater's store in downtown Bozman.

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Speaker 3: Connor also holds the Montana state record for the fortieth

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Speaker 3: largest bull elk ever taken and was on episode five

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Speaker 3: thirty five of the Meat Eater Podcast. That episode title

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Speaker 3: is the Fight to Save Hunting. He is also the

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Speaker 3: son of our beloved friend and colleague in the human

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Speaker 3: resources department, Alissa Smith, who's been on Meat Eater and Trivia.

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Speaker 3: Brogan Connor, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Uh tell us how's it been going at the Bozeman

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Speaker 5: We're doing really good on sales.

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Speaker 3: And getting a lot of holiday shoppers. Oh yeah, excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 4: Are you guys open over this this Thanksgiving weekend? Oh

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Speaker 4: you are Ooh nice tough GI store shopping.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, introduce us to Brogan here. When did I mean,

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Speaker 3: what is this thing? Uh? When did you get him?

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Speaker 3: What's he like? How many pounds? Would you say? Well,

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Speaker 3: we got him about a year ago.

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Speaker 7: M h He kind of gobbles a lot.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm, pretty noisy on occasions, and especially in the spring.

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Speaker 6: Got him as like a It was like a two

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Speaker 6: And then they shipped it to like the ups place

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Speaker 6: and you had to go pick him up.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm. He's uh got through the mail. Yeah, nice, I've

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Speaker 3: When he came in, his his snood was erect. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he seems now, Uh, just dangling. So he's he's comfortable

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Speaker 3: with us at this point. M yeah, I would say so, Uh, Corey,

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Speaker 3: you want to try to get this guy to gobble

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Speaker 3: Always puffing, keep going, keep going with you guys better.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic. Oh man, that's a big bird. Our audience,

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Speaker 3: jump up on the table and take a dominant posture

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Speaker 3: over me earlier. So if you're picking up on some

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Speaker 3: it's because we almost came to blows just a few

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Speaker 3: moments ago. Now, does he have any sort of misgivings

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Speaker 3: of this week all of his fellow countrymen will be

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Speaker 3: served on tables around the country. Not really, And if

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Speaker 5: No, he doesn't realize it.

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Speaker 3: Huh, must be easy life for him.

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Speaker 2: Does he have any brothers, sisters, friends?

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Speaker 3: He's got two different hens. Oh nice family, Yeah, nicely done. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I want to hit him with another gobble here, come on,

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Speaker 3: go for look at his he's getting mad. That's wonderful. Well, uh, Connor,

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Speaker 3: thank you for bringing this turkey into the podcast studio. Here, Phil,

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Speaker 3: I think is eager to get this bird out of

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Speaker 1: Well, Karin was out of the room when I said this,

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Speaker 1: But if anything, if he did decide he decided he

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Speaker 1: Karin would so, and you know what, I think she'd

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Speaker 3: There's there's a nice role of of cellophane down on

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Speaker 3: thank you again for bringing broken and have a happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having met the Black Friday Rush.

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Speaker 6: Happy Thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: Alrighty gang, Now we're going to talk about different ways

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Speaker 3: that we like to cook Brogan's cousins. This is our

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Speaker 3: next segment. Oh Jesus, burn out of here, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Calm down a bit here, shake.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, your snood looked a little around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna do a We're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: some Thanksgiving foods that we like to cook and we

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Speaker 3: menu and top three we're gonna select. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be a competitive top three. So Seth, Corey and myself

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Speaker 3: will each draft our top three Thanksgiving foods. Once a

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Speaker 3: dish is picked, it's off the table. We're going to

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Speaker 3: do it snake draft styles. So we'll begin with Seth,

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Speaker 3: come to me, Go back to Seth, come back to me.

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Speaker 3: And at the end, Phil will pick a winner, which

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Speaker 3: one of us has selected sort of the best medley

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Speaker 3: you're going to assemble a plate of leftover, you don't

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Speaker 3: have to tell me Randall all right? So are we

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Speaker 3: clear on the assignment?

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Speaker 2: Boys? Yeah, I'm just going to try to think of

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Speaker 2: stuff that Phil like.

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Speaker 3: No, don't do that that spoils it, all right?

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Speaker 3: But Phil's a solid American. I'm sure that his taste

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Speaker 1: I don't think we need this is an interesting strategy

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how this turns out to be honest.

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Speaker 2: I'll stick with it. I'll just go with what I

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Speaker 3: All right, Seth, Well you're going first. So what's your

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Speaker 4: My number one favorite thing on Thanksgiving is stuffing?

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Speaker 3: Stuffing? Ye, excellent choice, excellent choice. Uh any part dealer

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Speaker 3: type of stuffing? Do you do like a little sausage

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Speaker 4: No meat, just just bread and moist bread and seasoning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a competitive choice.

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Speaker 2: Stuff it in a bird.

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Speaker 3: Corey, you got number two.

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Speaker 6: Here, candied yam damn?

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Speaker 6: All right, going straight for the throne.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got two picks in a row here because

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Speaker 3: with gravy. Oh, just heavy brown gravy, brown gravy, and uh,

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Speaker 2: Okay, man, can we get can we throw in desserts?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go turkey. Yeah, absolutely, I'm gonna go gravy

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Speaker 3: and turkey. I feel a little white bread now, I

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Speaker 3: to have a really boring collection. But I didn't think

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Speaker 3: turkey could slip to blow. The fourth pick and gravy

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Speaker 6: Now excuse me, gravy out of the path or are

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Speaker 3: Making gravy driven? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's what I had down. So pumpkin pie, pumpkin.

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Speaker 2: Pie, candied yams, and pumpkin pie.

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Speaker 3: Interesting strategy. He's going with a lot of I guess, yam,

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Speaker 2: Gordon dishes or in a can or in a can.

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Speaker 3: Seth, you got two in a row.

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Speaker 2: Green bean cast role that's good out of a can.

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Speaker 2: Last pick for something.

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Speaker 4: That my mom makes which I don't probably not a

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Speaker 4: lot of people do this on Thanksgiving is baked corn.

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Speaker 3: Baked corn yep, just like this fantastic dish I wrote

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Speaker 3: down baked Pilgrims, baked corn. I should focus on one's

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Speaker 2: I quit the baked Pilgrims a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: Corey. It's your final decision here. Last pick.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes people just skip straight for the leftover hot turkey sandwiches.

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Speaker 6: Day of you know you have your dinner at noon.

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Speaker 6: You can still do hot turkey sandwiches by four or

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Speaker 6: five pm. So that's my third pick.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we can accept that. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna it's I mean, Randall already claimed turkey,

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Speaker 1: and the turkey sandwich is an amalgamation of several different.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise, otherwise my first pick would have been Thanksgiving leftover

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Speaker 4: The best kind is when you you just pop the

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Speaker 1: This could make or break you rand on no pressure

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Speaker 3: I really screwed up this draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are missing a pretty big one here.

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Speaker 3: I would say mash taters. Yeah, but see now I

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Speaker 3: Seth has stuffing, green bean casserole, baked corn. Phil, do

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Speaker 1: I had this, This was settled a couple of minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm just Corey. I'm gonna start with you. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I mean you you probably am already.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay.

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Speaker 3: You got cranberry sauce, which doesn't go with your other

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Speaker 1: It sure could, Phil, cranberry sauce on my pumpkin pie.

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Speaker 3: So, So what you're saying is it's down to me.

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Speaker 3: In set it's down to you. It's turkey, gravy taters

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Speaker 1: And we've got Randall with the classic lineup. But here's

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Speaker 2: I knew that would hit Phil hard. So the.

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Speaker 1: Rub here is I think most stuffing is whack Randall.

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Speaker 1: You've got You've got a boring white bread lineup as

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Speaker 3: Be Thanksgiving to me, Phil. We Actually this reminds me

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Speaker 3: This is orange turkey like orange chicken, breaded with cornstarch,

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Speaker 3: House Farms, Charleston gold rice. Oh, that's a mouthful. Some

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Speaker 1: It looks like many things you could stuff a turkey with.

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Speaker 3: And if you don't like turkey, try grouse. Phil hit

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Speaker 6: That looks amazing.

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Speaker 2: This looks like it should be like a Halloween meal.

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Speaker 3: This is Steve Klein, President of the Eastern Shoreland Conservancy.

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Speaker 3: Steve how are you doing. Oh, I'm wonderful.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting hungry.

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Speaker 3: You should be hungry for some birthday cake, as I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is my birthday, guys.

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Speaker 8: So, the eastern Shore of Maryland is the part of

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Speaker 8: The central part of Maryland is kind of Baltimore, Washington.

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Speaker 8: Sure, I think you know. Our organization is the largest

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Speaker 8: But we have three hundred and thirty easements across those

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Speaker 3: And so you're so essentially what what the easement is

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Speaker 8: I would say in other parts of Maryland that kind

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Speaker 8: the kind that come to mind when you think of Maryland.

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Speaker 8: It's I'll use Howard County as an example, kind of

443
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Speaker 8: an exurban county along the ninety five corridor that within

444
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Speaker 8: the memories of people that are about our age, they

445
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Speaker 8: can remember being pretty rural. And what we found is

446
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 8: that if it's not protected, then it's going to be developed.

447
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 8: That's kind of becomes the bargain. Maybe not today, right,

448
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 8: but fifty or one hundred years from now, you can

449
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 8: imagine this land is going to be accounted for in

450
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Speaker 8: some way. But think of conservations been as kind of

451
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 8: like a deed restriction or a legal document as part

452
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Speaker 8: of your real estate holdings, right, it travels with the

453
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Speaker 8: deed across future owners of the property, and we have

454
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Speaker 8: a number of things that we can write easemans for.

455
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Speaker 8: So we have written easements for agricultural productivity. We want

456
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Speaker 8: to keep farmland farming. We have written it for our

457
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Speaker 8: local endangered species, the del Marva fox squirrel, which has

458
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Speaker 8: been successfully protected, is no longer endangered. We've got we've

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Speaker 8: got easements for scenic value. It's really up to what

460
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Speaker 8: that landowner wants to protect, right, that's what we're that's

461
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Speaker 8: what we want to protect as well. And also, when

462
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Speaker 8: you're working in the Chesapeake Bay, water quality is going

463
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Speaker 8: to be a huge piece. So those buffer areas between

464
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Speaker 8: agriculture and the water and between development and the water,

465
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Speaker 8: we want to protect.

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Speaker 5: Those as well.

467
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Speaker 8: It's water quality is the name of the game in

468
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Speaker 8: the Chesapeake Bay, as you guys know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, Steve, you mentioned you just closed your three

470
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirtieth easement. Can you tell us a little

471
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Speaker 3: bit about that one and sort of the backstory there

472
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Speaker 3: so folks can get an idea of what this actually

473
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Speaker 3: looks like.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I uh, this is a property that's

475
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Speaker 8: been in the same family for you know, more or

476
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Speaker 8: less I think one hundred years, and they really want

477
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Speaker 8: to protect their grandfather's vision for this place. And you know,

478
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 8: that's what makes this work really so spectacular. I worked

479
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 8: on Capitol Hill in my previous life. That's the capital

480
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 8: behind me over my fireplace, and that was one kind

481
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Speaker 8: of work. And then you come over here and you're

482
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Speaker 8: meeting with landowners who get sometimes very emotional about their

483
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 8: farms and their forests and their fields and the idea

484
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 8: that they're protecting a place where you know, their grandfather

485
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 8: bought or their great grandfather bought, and they've inherited over

486
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 8: the years and they're now protecting it for their kids

487
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Speaker 8: and their grandkids. And you know, frankly, family they're not

488
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 8: ever going to meet, and it'll be something that they

489
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Speaker 8: would be able to recognize forever.

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Speaker 5: It gets pretty special. We have got an ease property

491
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Speaker 5: here at.

492
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Speaker 8: Eastern Shoreland Conservancy that has been in the same family

493
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Speaker 8: for I think thirteen or fourteen generations.

494
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Speaker 5: The property has never been on real estate market.

495
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Speaker 8: It was a grant from the King of England and

496
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Speaker 8: it remains in that same family's hands. I mean, really

497
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 8: that is kind of obviously fish wildlife for the reason

498
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 8: why I do this work hunting and fishing, but it's

499
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 8: the human element of what does it mean to protect

500
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 8: these places, because there's tremendous pressure on this landscape, you know,

501
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 8: and there's a lot of money to be made on

502
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 8: this landscape. Generally it implies some kind of development, some

503
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 8: kind of conversion of use. And to have people say,

504
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 8: you know, I don't want to take that course, I

505
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 8: don't want to take that road, it's really really special.

506
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: It's a treat to work with these folks.

507
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: Well, that is meaningful work, Steve, and I'm glad that

508
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: we could share a little bit about what you're doing

509
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: with our audience here. It is delightful to see you, sir.

510
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: I wish you all the best and have a very

511
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 3: happy Thanksgiving.

512
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: You guys too. Thanks for having me on.

513
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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see Steve, We'll see a happy birthday.

514
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: Alrighty, now we've got them. Migration report from Matt McCormick.

515
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 9: Hey guys, I'm Matt McCormick with Flying V and welcome

516
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Speaker 9: to the Meat Eater Migration Report for November twenty six,

517
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 9: twenty twenty four. As we near the heart of migration season,

518
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 9: the snow line across Canada continues creeping southward. Heavy snow

519
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 9: cover blankets much of the North with moderate accumulation moving.

520
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 7: Through the central provinces.

521
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 9: The southernmost edge of that snow line right here is

522
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 9: passing through the prairies and along the US border. Although

523
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 9: that southern line is kind of patchy right now, like

524
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 9: here in Montana, the forecast suggests that that won't stay

525
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 9: that way for long. A powerful Arctic front is expected

526
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 9: to sweep.

527
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 7: Through all the North Country in the coming.

528
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 9: Days, bringing widespread snow and freezing temperatures that will.

529
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 7: Accelerate the migration southward.

530
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 9: This incoming weather system is likely to reinforce all that

531
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 9: ice build up along the northern lakes and rivers, closing

532
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 9: the remaining sources.

533
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 7: Of water for all the birds in those central provinces.

534
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 9: Areas are currently holding snow, free ground and open water,

535
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 9: particularly in southern Alberta and Saskatchewan, they will see rapid

536
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 9: changes as temperatures plummet and snow begins to blanket the region.

537
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 9: This shift will further compress all those staging grounds and

538
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 9: push that all the birds further down south into all

539
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 9: those southern portions of the flyway. Listen, guys, for every

540
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 9: waterfowl hunter across the country, the timing could not be

541
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 9: better The combination of fresh snow and hard freezes up

542
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 9: in the North Country is a recipe for strong migration

543
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 9: days ahead with birds likely with how heavy that frost

544
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 9: and freeze is to push faster and further in search

545
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 9: of open water and food sources. We saw today hundreds

546
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 9: of birds pouring out out of Alberta into the US

547
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 9: with no passport required. Man, these guys are coming. Keep

548
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 9: an eye on the weather and be ready. That next

549
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 9: wave of birds is headed here soon. These are the

550
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 9: weather fronts we all dream about in the offseason. So

551
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 9: it's time to pack your gear, calling sick to work

552
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 9: and hit the field. That's it for this week's migration report.

553
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 7: Good luck out there, be safe and happy. Thanksgiving back

554
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 7: to you guys.

555
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: Man that should have been a weather man. Fantastic.

556
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: I know we've got to invest Phil, I know your

557
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: top of the line here for for tech upgrades, but

558
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: I think we could do wonders with a little with

559
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: some green green screen key action.

560
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

561
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 6: Kind of remind me of John Madden a little bit.

562
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 6: He could have been up there.

563
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: A little more like Doppler radar and stuff it. Totally,

564
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: that'd be great.

565
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: Totally. Well, our next segment is tattoos, I regret.

566
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, he talk is my old friend looked at

567
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 10: my tattoo. Lookgain. It really seemed like such a good

568
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 10: idea when I was drunk last summer and the pizza.

569
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 10: The tattoo says a person a pot will always find

570
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 10: more bees. Does that mean it's a tattoo? I regres.

571
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh, it's two weeks in a row on that one.

572
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: It's so good.

573
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: And I think when you take a tattoo break so people

574
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: don't get sick of it, because people get sick of these,

575
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do more, which you know, I

576
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: guess that's not about no.

577
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: No, Actually I first heard that particular jingle. What would

578
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: you call it? Your your drop, your drop?

579
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Sure?

580
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: Uh, drive down the Paradise Valley. It was dark, the

581
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: road was empty, and I was just watching the lights,

582
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: you know, go by, and man, it really hit, it

583
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: really hit. I'm well. Today's regrettable tattoo comes from day

584
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Speaker 3: Jason Dejardines. Is that de dejar Dan. If you have

585
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: a hunting or fishing related tattoo that you regret, please

586
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: email us at Radiated Radio at the meat Eater dot com.

587
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: I'll repeat that again because I screwed it up. Radio

588
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: at the meadeater dot com.

589
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: What would radiator at the meat eater dot com be

590
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: like selling car parks?

591
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: We need to expand. Yeah, get into.

592
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: A new uh send us your huntry.

593
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: Get into a new sphere.

594
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 10: Uh.

595
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: So this, Jason writes in I thought I would share

596
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: the hunting tattoo I most regret, which is an interesting

597
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: way to put it, because he has it seems that

598
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: he has several hunting tattoos that he regrets, but this

599
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: is the one he most regrets because she had done

600
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: a great job on all of my others. I let

601
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: her do my turkey well. The job she did was fine.

602
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: The placement and lack of scene was not. I trusted

603
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: her judgment and regret it. I should probably regret my

604
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: gnome packing the unicorn tattoo more because it came from

605
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: your t shirt. I even had the gnome hunting the

606
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: unicorn in another tattoo before I got the pack out one,

607
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: so that that actually is an impressively detailed gnome packing

608
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: out a unicorn tattoo got the first. I wish I

609
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: knew the significance of the numbers.

610
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Here's referencing it correct.

611
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: Six one, four, three on the little thing hen office

612
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: bow there. I don't quite understand what that is.

613
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: Turkey's.

614
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: But here's the turkey he regrets.

615
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: Here's the thing about this turkey. It's tail fan. Appears

616
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: to be a Jake tail fan, and it's got a

617
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: full beard.

618
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: It's got a big beard.

619
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 6: Oh, and who's the guy in the bushes back behind

620
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 6: about to shoot one right at.

621
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: The right, shoot one right behind him?

622
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: Well, the geometry of it, yeah, I was gonna say,

623
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 3: the geometry of it makes me think that that hunter

624
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: is shooting something on his bicep rather than the turkey

625
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: on Or is that a leg? Oh God, that's a leg. No,

626
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: I've I've totally screwed this up. So it's an elbow.

627
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: I think it's an elbow.

628
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: I wish I could see whatever it is at the

629
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: end there, I'd be better able to tell whether it's

630
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 3: an arm or a leg.

631
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 6: You gotta wonder if he straightens his arm out, if

632
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 6: it'll if the point of aim changes.

633
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know this show isn't live, but for

634
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: those watching it live, sound out you think it's an

635
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: armor a leg?

636
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it does sort of look like an ankle

637
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: at the bottom. But now I see that he's probably

638
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: wearing khakis. Yeah it's a wrist. Yeah, I thought this

639
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: was an ankle bone anyway. Anyway, Yeah, I mean, Seth,

640
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: you've pointed out some sort of incongruity here with the

641
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: turkey biologically speaking, and.

642
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: That's that's an inaccuracy. I would not have picked up

643
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: on it just looking at the art. I think that's

644
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: a fine tattoo.

645
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: I know, detail is impeccable. Yes, I know. I wish

646
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: it is good artwork.

647
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: I wish I could see around the corner just to

648
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: get a sense of the full scene. But yeah, I

649
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know that he should regret this one.

650
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, take it to the grave.

651
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: The hunter, though it is, the aim point is strange.

652
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: It almost made me wonder whether that hunter was part

653
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: of a different scene.

654
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe there was a scene under that turkey that

655
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: he Yeah, he really regretted that one, so he slapped

656
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 4: the turkey on top.

657
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 6: There's more ink down there.

658
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say, of all the tattoos we've

659
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: seen thus far, that's probably the least regrettable, other than

660
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: honking for a bonkin, which I maintain is not regrettable

661
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: in the least. No but Jason, thanks for sharing your

662
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Speaker 3: ink and please if you have a tattoo that you

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Speaker 3: regret again, that's radio at the meat eater dot com.

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Speaker 1: Did we want to there's a there's a third one

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Speaker 1: here that I oh, oh that silly me? Yeah yeah, yeah,

666
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: Now what part of the body is that again?

667
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: That's the gnome?

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00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: You guys can talk about the nome. Well, this thing processes.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the third one ready, I didn't see it.

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00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually coming up the gnome, I'm not sure that

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00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: if you showed me that, I don't know how that

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00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: varies from the T shirt. I feel like it's a

673
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 3: fairly uh realistic reproduction of that of of that original artwork.

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00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: Nowother great looking tattoo in my opinion, But here's the

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00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: here's this the third one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this one's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So it's a it's a buck.

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Speaker 2: I have no clue.

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00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: It's it's a buck skull. And on the right antler

680
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: uh from the viewers right, there is a gnome perched

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00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: up between the G one and G two, and then

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: on the crown of the skull, uh, there's a unicorn

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00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: and it seems that the gnome is about to ambush

684
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: this unicorn with an arrow uh and on the left antler.

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Speaker 3: From the viewer's perspective, the G one and G two

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Speaker 3: look like sort of trees. They've grown into trees, and

687
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: so it's a it's a fantastical setting.

688
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: There's also some names on the UH signatures in there.

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Speaker 2: Benjamin M.

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Speaker 3: It's missing A. It's missing a bullet hole.

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00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 4: No, that's that's Kelsey's the originals right there.

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Speaker 6: That's not too far off though.

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Speaker 3: Well, I I like this. There's a lot going on. Uh,

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00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: there's a lot to look at. Phil What what are

695
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: you getting out of this? You're an art man?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I was thinking I have a shirt that looks

698
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Speaker 1: that's like a it's like a tree growing out of

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00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: the ground, but it looks like a hand. There's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of like fung guy and trees grown out of

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Speaker 1: the out out of the hand. It kind of reminds

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Speaker 1: me of that What's.

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Speaker 4: Who's Who is this guy's name again, Jason Jason uh Dejad?

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Speaker 1: Your tattoos are great, man, I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: these are regrettable at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fine, he okay, by me. I like these

707
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: they're not they don't take themselves too seriously. That's that's

708
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Speaker 3: one thing that I really feel strongly about in the

709
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Speaker 3: tattoo world, just.

710
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Speaker 1: Like honking for a bum.

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Speaker 4: I look at the I just I just see Matt

712
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: McCormick giving a migration update on this one.

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Speaker 2: See the birds up top.

714
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, up there, it'd be all.

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Speaker 6: Over that they headed north or south.

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Speaker 3: Well, the sun is that's all right?

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, so so Brady our one minute fisherman, Oh,

718
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: he's here. He's in the call, all right, so we

719
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Speaker 1: can bring him in.

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Speaker 3: Our next segment is one Minute Fishing.

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Speaker 1: Oh do I feel lucky?

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Speaker 5: Well, do you go ahead make.

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Speaker 3: My cast.

724
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Speaker 5: Now?

725
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone

726
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,

727
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars

728
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is

729
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: Brady Bush coming to us from Michigan. Brady was on

730
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Speaker 3: Trivia episode six hundred when we recorded from the University

731
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Speaker 3: of Michigan. While we're on the Tailgate tour, and Brady

732
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: will be fishing for a donation to the University of

733
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Speaker 3: Michigan's fishing team. Brady, you look chili. Tell us a

734
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: little bit about where you're standing and what you're fishing

735
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 3: for today.

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Speaker 1: Well, I am standing on a river, on the bank

737
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Speaker 1: of a river.

738
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Speaker 3: And it feels like it's twenty degrees out, so I'll

739
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: be fishing for some baths. But it might be a

740
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Speaker 3: tough But what are you? Now's your what's your rig here? Today?

741
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Speaker 5: Show you here.

742
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be throwing a little jig.

743
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: All right, nice?

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00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: Nay, Yeah, looks good.

745
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 9: Guessing the water's pretty cold, so they'll probably be right

746
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 9: on bottom.

747
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: See what we can do.

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Speaker 3: Alrighty sir, Well, your one minute will begin with your

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Speaker 3: first cast, So whenever you're ready, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have my dad hold the video for me.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, Were all good, yes, sir.

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00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Whenever you're ready and.

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00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: We're off.

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Speaker 2: Cast.

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00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: It's very relaxed.

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00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, what a calm evening out.

757
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: Well, I was speaking more about his body language and

758
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: demeanor with that first cast. Casually hugged it out there.

759
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: It's like he's been there before.

760
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows that you can't you can't force it.

761
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 4: Ope, he's bringing it in cast to the sun looks

762
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: low in the sky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's when the hogs come out to play right here.

764
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Speaker 3: He's working it. We've got twenty eight seconds, thirty seconds. Sorry,

765
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Speaker 3: this is counting upwards, which is unconventional. Same spot, another cat,

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Speaker 3: what's going on? Fifteen seconds left here? Come on, come on, Brady,

767
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: don't let us down.

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Speaker 6: Seven seconds five full three two one man, it's not easy, Brady,

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Speaker 6: times up, buddy.

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Speaker 1: You know what, You're not alone. We're in kind of

771
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: a slump.

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00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in a slump right now. That's why we

773
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: we went to you. We thought you'd be at the

774
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: golf corresponding. You could break our you could break our

775
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: slump here.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: I wish I could go to the secret spot. I'll

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00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: save that for will.

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00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you guys stay warm there and have a

780
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Speaker 3: very have a very happy Thanksgiving. Say hi to the boys,

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00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: and we'll catch you next time. Sir, Thank you.

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00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: Go blue.

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Speaker 5: Oh h.

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00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 4: Somebody says, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we are good kid,

786
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 4: good kid, tough fishing this time of years tough.

787
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I know when we launched this segment, I

788
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: don't think there was a lot of forethought put into seasonality.

789
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think things will pick back up when

790
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: we can start drilling holes or we're gonna have to

791
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: go south.

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00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: We should go south. That's in the budget, right, yeah.

793
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: Or find people right after we get that, we get

794
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: that green screen practical, we'll get a couple.

795
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Speaker 3: Of bus tickets. All right, gang, It's the moment you've

796
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: all been waiting for. It's the Meat Eater Movie Club.

797
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 6: I've been on the edge of my seat.

798
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: There we are.

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Speaker 3: This week. We're reviewing the nineteen ninety seven film The Edge,

800
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 3: and I was trying to decide whether I should read

801
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 3: this faster because a lot of people hate this and

802
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: there are a lot of comments to that effect, and

803
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: then a lot of people love it. So I thought,

804
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: maybe I should try to do a better job of

805
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: just articulating and pronouncing. Pronounce Jesus. At any event, we're

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00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: just going to do it live. The Edge nineteen ninety

807
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Speaker 3: seven employes the cliche genre of a classic survival thriller

808
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: to probe fundamental questions about civilization, knowledge, and human nature

809
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: through David Mammett's characteristically precise dialogue. The film explores how

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00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: different forms of power, intellectual, physical, and financial, operate when

811
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: stripped of social context. The film follows billionaire Charles Morse,

812
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: played by Anthony Hopkins, and fashion photographer Bob Green played

813
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: by Alec Baldwin, as they struggle to survive in the

814
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: Alaskan wilderness after a plane crash. Their battle against the

815
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: Elements and a relentless coodiac Bear is complicated by a

816
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: profound psychological tension, as Bob's apparent desire for Charles's wealth

817
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: and his wife played by Alla McPherson, creates a dangerous

818
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: undercurrent of mistrust. Charles embodies accumulated learning and wealth, while

819
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: Bob represents a more instinctual physical presence. Their dynamic grows

820
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: increasingly complex as the cruelties of the wilderness erode social hierarchy.

821
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: Charles's encyclopedic knowledge, initially presented as a trivial freak to

822
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: use his words, becomes the Paris Salvation, challenging conventional assumptions

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Speaker 3: about practical mastery versus theoretical expertise. In doing so, Mammut's

824
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: script clearly subvert excuse me cleverly subverts expectations about masculine competence.

825
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: The Kodiak Bear in the Edge operates as both a

826
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Speaker 3: flesh and blood antagonist and a metaphysical force embodying nature's

827
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: indifference to humankind. More than just a predator. It represents

828
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 3: what lies beyond society's boundary, raw, a moral power that

829
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: cannot be reasoned with or bought off. As Charles and

830
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: Bob are stalked by this formidable beast and then in

831
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 3: turn lay a deadly trap for it, their own relationship

832
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 3: mirrors the same predator prey dynamic, suggesting that the line

833
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: between civilized man and savage beast is more permeable than

834
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: we'd like to admit. The bear's unflinching pursuit of the

835
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: men becomes a test of both moral and mortal survival,

836
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: not just whether they can kill it, but whether they

837
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: can do so without becoming similarly savage themselves. Here I'm

838
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: referencing a line from the film where Anthony Hopkins screams

839
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: kill the m effort. Early in the film, a curiously

840
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: disfigured lodge owner claims that once a bear tastes human flesh,

841
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 3: it desires nothing else. This claim foreshadows the metaphorical taste

842
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: for blood that develops between Charles and Bob, suggesting how

843
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: single transgression of violence can then become habitual. Don't worry,

844
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: I only have a page left. Perhaps most significantly, the

845
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: film explores a question that has been central to Western

846
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 3: intellectual life since the Enlightenment, What is the relationship between

847
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: civilized man and the state of nature. Charles's fortune, rendered

848
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: meaningless in the while in the wild, previously insulated him

849
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: from precisely these primal confrontations. Yet his intellectual curiosity, perhaps

850
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: a luxury afforded by that wealth, provides tools for survival

851
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: that mere physical prowess cannot match. The mounting tension between

852
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: Charles and Bob reveals how quickly civilized behavior can erode

853
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: when social structures disappear. Their struggle moves beyond mere survival

854
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: to encompass questions of moral choice. Does civilization represent a

855
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 3: genuine conquest of our baser instincts? Or is it merely

856
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: a thin veneer covering them? Up here? I'm sure we're

857
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: all thinking that. There's a striking parallel between Mammitt's screenplay

858
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: and Joseph Conrad's eighteen ninety nine novella The Heart of Darkness,

859
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: which provides a rich interpretive framework for The Edge. Both

860
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: works examine what happens when civilized men are forced to

861
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: confront wilderness and their own savage potential. Like Marlow's Journey Upriver.

862
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: In the Belgian Congo, Charles and Bob's trek through Alaska

863
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: strips away social pretense to reveal underlying truths about human nature.

864
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna skip last couple bits p here, but I

865
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: found it interesting.

866
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can go on, No, you should.

867
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Speaker 3: Just as Kurtz goes native and reveals the savagery underlying

868
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: European colonialism, Bob's veneer of sophistication cracks to reveal his

869
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: own predatory intentions. Charles, like Marlow, maintains his civilized perspective

870
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: while recognizing darker truths. His survival depends on acknowledging and

871
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 3: confronting these truths, rather than denying them. While both works

872
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: depict civilized facades cracking under pressure, they arrive at different

873
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: conclusions about whether such events reveal civilization's fundamental hollowness or

874
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: tests its and strength. The key distinction is that, while

875
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 3: Conrad suggests civilization itself is built on a foundation of savagery,

876
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: the Edge allows for the possibility that there is something

877
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: more to civilization than mere social pretense. The film's resolution

878
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: in Charles's final acts of mercy and Sacrifice suggests that

879
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: the true, inextinguishable core of civilization is not the trappings

880
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: of wealth and learning, but our capability for moral choice

881
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 3: in the absence of those trappings.

882
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 6: So that's the end, well said, took the words right

883
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 6: out of my mouth.

884
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm glad you take it home.

885
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 5: Well.

886
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys support. I was beginning to get

887
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 3: a bit self conscious. I think I've taken this too

888
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: far and we need to scale it back a little bit.

889
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 2: I disagree now.

890
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: In preparation for this segment, other than composing that, I

891
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: looked at a review from Roger Ebert, who gave it

892
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: three out of four stars, and he actually hit on

893
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: one of the points I wanted to discuss in this film, Saul,

894
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: he writes better than I could, he says, having successfully

895
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 3: negotiated almost its entire one hundred and eighteen minutes, the

896
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: Edge shoots itself in the foot after the emotionally fraught

897
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: final moments, just as we're savoring the implications of what

898
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: has happened, the screen fades to black and we immediately

899
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 3: get a big credit for quote Bart the Bear. Now,

900
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: Bart is one hell of a bear. I loved him

901
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 3: in the title role of the Bear, but this credit

902
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 3: in this place is a spectacularly bad idea. Did anybody else?

903
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Yeah.

904
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: There's an emotional scene, incredibly poignant line, and then it

905
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: fades to just say, here's running down hopkins face.

906
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: It says, thanks to Bart the bear this film. The

907
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: original title for it was Bookworm.

908
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: You know he does love to read.

909
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he spends the first third of the movie reading

910
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: that book as secretary gave him.

911
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called Bookworm, and it was written for the screen.

912
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: The all inter titles were Wild Wilder, the Wild, Into

913
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: the Wild, Wilderness, Now Dead, Hunt, Deadfall on the Precipice,

914
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: Over the Precipice, Edge, the Edge on the Edge, the

915
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: Bear Roared, the Bear in the Brain, and Bloody Betrayal.

916
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 3: I think the Edge is probably the best.

917
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, it kind of a it suggests a precipice.

918
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's good.

919
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: Harrison Ford and Dustin Hoffman both turned the role played

920
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 3: by Hopkins down. De Niro Robert Denier actually read for Hopkins' part,

921
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 3: but he was too concerned that having an animatronic bear

922
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't work with viewers, and so he turned down. For

923
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: that reason, he was reluctant to work with a he

924
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: thought it would just deflate the film. Alec Baldwin showed

925
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: up for shooting this with a full beard, and he

926
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 3: refused to shave it. They almost shut down production and

927
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: brought in Bill Pullman. The belief among the cast was

928
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: that Baldwin had recently gained some weight and he was

929
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: self conscious about maybe some extra weight around Jobbler and

930
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: when he was told to shave the beard, according to

931
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 3: Vanity Fair, he said, quote mffing, movie producer. I knew

932
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: this was coming the b and these are obviously the

933
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: full expletive the BS Hollywood mentality, telling me, m effort,

934
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: no talent, mffing. How predictable to see that good old

935
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: Hollywood integrity at work. Wow, So Baldwin acting as Baldwin does.

936
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 3: And then finally my last bit of research that I'll

937
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: share with you before we dive in. According to the

938
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: Trainer Bear trainer Lynn Seuss, she said that Hopkins quote

939
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: acknowledged and respected Bart like a fellow actor. He would

940
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: spend hours just looking at Bart and admiring him. He

941
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: did so many of his own scenes with Bart.

942
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: Love it.

943
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 5: Now.

944
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: I also read that this was his second movie with Bart.

945
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 2: After that was what I.

946
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were reunited. I went into this thing. Oh,

947
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: it's Baldwin and Mammot here. We're gonna boot up Glengarry

948
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: Glenn Ross. But I didn't realize that there was also another. Yeah,

949
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: the real was more recently, and it was Legend The

950
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: Fall Bart the Baron, Anthony Hopkins.

951
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: Gentlemen, Uh, really really quick, because just just right up top.

952
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: I normally I kind of hate the argument that a

953
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: movie is bad because it is unrealistic. Like you sit

954
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: down and watch a movie or play, you're already suspending disbelief.

955
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: Is it like we're watching people pretend to be other people,

956
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: pretend to laugh and cry and say words that they're

957
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: not actually thinking. But that being said, I think part

958
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: of the assignment here is that a lot of the

959
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: stuff in this movie is ludicrous, which which I think

960
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: we'll dive into.

961
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: I felt the same way about Star Wars at A

962
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: lot of it's in the details.

963
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: Yes, much like the Jake tail feather you just called up.

964
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not something I would have noticed.

965
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of us the details.

966
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's Steve always, you know, the Revenant, Stephen.

967
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: The Revenant's a big thing, But I feel like most

968
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: of Steve's beef with the Revenant, is that like, oh

969
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't look like North Dakota or whatever. Not that

970
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: the movie is like is up its own ass and

971
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: work for you know, a bunch of other reasons.

972
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 3: But I think this movie rocks spellbinding scenery.

973
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, oh yeah.

974
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: Remember when movies used to be shot on location? Yeah, yeah,

975
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: I know.

976
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: The headquarters for the filming was can Moore, Alberta. Yeah,

977
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 3: and they filmed some of it in Baff and around Baff,

978
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: but they filtered those ewalk village looking lodges specifically for

979
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: the film.

980
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 6: Really yeah, the one on stilts in the river bottom?

981
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: Well did all of the buildings were just built out

982
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: of like raw? I mean, the docks were outrageous. But

983
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: just getting ahead of myself here. Initial thoughts on the film?

984
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: What was your reaction, Seth. I hadn't seen it before.

985
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: I seen it, No, I watched it for the first

986
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 4: time last night. I just couldn't help but pick out

987
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: all the details that were just so wrong in this film.

988
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: It was overall, it was it was a cool film, entertaining,

989
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: not my favorite, but.

990
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: Lots of details. Yeah, like from the beginning all the

991
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: way to the.

992
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: End, Corey, you've seen this several times, but this was

993
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 3: the first time not edited for television, so you got

994
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: to enjoy the full mamm At screenplay.

995
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the you know coin curse words there are

996
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 6: maybe everybody's favorite part.

997
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: Oh you just get that mother effort?

998
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I've seen it probably ten times,

999
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 6: nine in a row on AMC. And then this was

1000
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 6: the first time getting to watch it unedited raw on Amazon.

1001
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 3: That was great, much richer experience. I sure, I'm sure.

1002
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 6: And it's been remastered, so yeah, the cinematography was gorgeous.

1003
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: What what about I mean, I'm sure we have plenty

1004
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: of things to pick at from an unrealistic perspective, but

1005
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: what for you guys? Was there anything that you thought

1006
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 3: was redeemable from an out and experienced outdoorsman's point of view?

1007
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: Well, like things are where things that worked for you

1008
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 4: and you didn't go this is absurd?

1009
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: Oh I thought. Yeah.

1010
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 6: I thought they did a great job honestly keeping it,

1011
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 6: keeping it pretty realistic.

1012
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of mine.

1013
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I go, I have a list of stuff

1014
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 4: that I was just jotted down when I was sure

1015
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 4: watching the movie.

1016
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 3: Sure, well we can. Why don't we go into what's unrealistic.

1017
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can go Yeah, I can talk about that

1018
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: more than the realistic stuff. Lots of things were wrong

1019
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 4: with the plane, like the whole all the scenes in

1020
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: the plane, one of them being when they're just in

1021
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: the cockpit all talking to one another and the pilot

1022
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: like didn't have his head set on and no one

1023
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: else head of your muffs. That's not how it works.

1024
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: They're not screaming out it's so loud inside. Yeah, that

1025
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: doesn't work, tough.

1026
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: Let's see criticure.

1027
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: The guy who owns the lodge said he wasn't hunting.

1028
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: He would be out hunting, but he's not hunting because

1029
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 4: his rifle wasn't sighted in. They asked him why his

1030
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 4: rifle was in sighted in because he said he didn't

1031
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 4: have a bench rest.

1032
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then Anthony Hopkins said, an ironing board

1033
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 3: makes a good ben yeah or anything.

1034
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, ironing board might be kind of flimsy.

1035
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1036
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: They kept saying it's a Kodiak bear. Yeah. I thought

1037
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 2: that was a red flag. They would. They would multiple times.

1038
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 4: They showed it snowing down low along the river and

1039
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: they'd get up in the high country, looked like it's summer.

1040
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very uh. I thought the vegetation

1041
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: also was strangely inconsistent. Yeah, they just go from like

1042
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 3: conifers to aspens and I Sydney and I had a

1043
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: long conversation trying to figure out what season it was.

1044
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, which that plays into another point. One more thing.

1045
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: Though, the the squirrel that they trapped was a grey squirrel.

1046
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great It was a great basket trap.

1047
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: Away from it, it kept me thinking, whatever happened to

1048
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: that squirrel?

1049
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, that when the helicopter came out, right, Yeah, they

1050
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 6: were so close to a meal.

1051
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then yeah, I stopped taking notes after this point.

1052
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: But the first from the time that they wrecked the

1053
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 4: plane till their first meal was the flesh from the

1054
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 4: grizzly bear. Yeah, which seemed like a lot of days,

1055
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: but I don't I couldn't hard track, I couldn't keep trapping.

1056
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: Were a few nights, yeah, I think it was only

1057
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: two or three nights before they killed the bear. Yeah,

1058
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: unless there was some sort of time skipping that happened.

1059
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, and the only time they they kind of

1060
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: stopped for water is the waterfall they come across, like

1061
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: up in the Highkon tree and they kind of just

1062
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: like wipe their face with it.

1063
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: They don't ever really drink.

1064
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: Oh I liked it, didn't I believe Alec Baldwin told

1065
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: the other guy to stop drinking, didn't He like the

1066
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: he's like drinking from the water and he's like, come on,

1067
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: what are you guys doing?

1068
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: I think I think, I mean Alec Baldwin, notorious asshole.

1069
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: I think he's great in this movie. Oh yeah, it's

1070
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: such a hard part to pull off. I mean, it's

1071
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: like like the biggest asshole bit, but he doesn't like

1072
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: very realistically and with just like I mean, he just

1073
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: puts it all.

1074
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: Out, smarmy, smarmy Lithario.

1075
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: And the behind the scenes you know, gossip plays into

1076
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: that a lot.

1077
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I like, yeah, those didn't look like blanks

1078
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 6: that he was loading into his lever action either.

1079
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: To no no no.

1080
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: So I I mean I thought probably one of my

1081
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: favorite parts of the film was the spike ball attack

1082
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: that they's done the bear. Like, of all the traps

1083
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: that they were going to make for the bear.

1084
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: Was that just to piss it off or it was

1085
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: they trying to get.

1086
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to kill it. But what the

1087
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: problem is is those spike balls had only previously been

1088
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: deployed in Return of the Jedi by.

1089
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 5: The e.

1090
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: The at Sts, I believe, the Chicken Walkers. Yeah. So

1091
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: I was struck by the similarity between that little booby

1092
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 3: trap and Return of the Jedi. And then I was

1093
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: also struck by he was like describing and he showed

1094
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: that photo of how he wanted to kill the bear,

1095
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Speaker 3: and I was like, he's just gonna Brave Heart the Bear,

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Speaker 3: which Brave Heart came out two years before this, and

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Speaker 3: they like one of the most like jaw dropping scenes

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Speaker 3: in the film is when they raised all the sticks

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Speaker 3: and all the charging horses getting paled on the sticks,

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Speaker 3: and then they just used that same trick on Old Bart,

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Speaker 3: which I mean.

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Speaker 2: Killed Bart instantly. It was cool, It was cool, but

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, do you think there was like a missing like

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Speaker 1: a deleted scene where he and Alec Balder were saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: you saw Braveheart, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I just thought I just thought it was Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean we talk about this as being the glory

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Speaker 3: days of when there wasn't a CGI and when we

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Speaker 3: had original screenplays, and I was like, man, they should

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Speaker 3: have just done something else to kill the bear that

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Speaker 3: didn't look like Braveheart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, Bart did a hell of a job in that movie.

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Speaker 3: Incredible.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Although I thought that if I had to pick bone

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Speaker 3: with Bart's performance, I thought that frequently his facial expressions

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Speaker 3: were hard to parse. There were sometimes like when he

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Speaker 3: was bouncing the log and it just looked like he

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Speaker 3: was sort of like smiling.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he was playing with it.

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Speaker 1: Some of those shots though, with his lipsticking Alley, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean real bears and movies. It's just

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Speaker 3: what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: After they killed Bart, I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: And how fast they Oh yeah, yeah, I say I

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Speaker 1: was a lukewarm on this movie until it cut to

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Speaker 1: them wearing the Highway and I.

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Speaker 2: Was like, this movie rips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this makes no sense at all, and I'm

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Speaker 1: here for it.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, that's what it alive to me,

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Speaker 2: And I was fully bought in.

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Speaker 3: He at some point he yeah, Alec Baldwin adopts sort

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Speaker 3: of an apron and cape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then Anthony Hopkins wears a leather tunic like a

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Speaker 3: like a viking. And I also thought there were a

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Speaker 3: couple of times in the movie where like they both

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01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: went through very obvious like shifts in how they were

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01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 3: playing these characters and it was just like whoa, he

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01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: got weird all of a sudden. And at the end

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Speaker 3: of the film, I kept thinking that Anthony Hopkins was

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Speaker 3: Sean Connery because he just sort of adopted this like

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Speaker 3: Sean Connery persona.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was, you know, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: classic sort of you know, unlikely pair. I mean, Anthony

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Speaker 1: Hopkins is clearly like on the spectrum in some sort

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Speaker 1: of way. And also did they ever say what he

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01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: does or is he just a rich guy?

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 3: No, the guy's like I liked it at the beginning,

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01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: Like the grubby guy working at the floatplane dock was

1155
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: just like Earth the airplane hanging. He's like, you're Charles Morse,

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01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 3: the billionaire.

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01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: Let's just establish our characters.

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01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: To your point about him being sort of spectromy for

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Speaker 3: lack of a better term, I thought that Anthony Hopkins

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01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 3: character was very similar to Hannibal Lecter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They're both big readers. They retain everything they read, they

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01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: have a photographic memory, and they're sort of eccentric geniuses

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: that obviously have a difficult time connecting with people in

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: a genuine way. I saw this and I thought, man,

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01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: no wonder Hopkins got cast for this role.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you really feel bad for him towards the end too.

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01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 6: I mean, oh, new buddy that he's stuck in the

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Speaker 6: woods with tries to kill him for his wife, and.

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Speaker 3: I think, I'm just sorry this is going on. I

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Speaker 3: have two more reactions.

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Speaker 1: A little one plenty of time.

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Speaker 3: One, if you're cheating on your spouse, don't get the

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01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 3: spouse a watch that says happy Birthday. And then that

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01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: your adulter or I guess adult adultering partner a watch

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01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: at the same time, and the same receipt has both

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01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 3: of them, and the one says for your birthday, the

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01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: other one says for all.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for all the nights, Just like, don't get a

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 4: watch that says I committed adultery with you, wink nice

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01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 4: like like you.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about the performances being all over the place.

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01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: You're you're right, But it kept me on my toes

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: because I was wondering, like, Okay, is Baldwin's character going

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01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: to just be an asshole throughout the whole movie? And

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: then but you know, there's a point after they kill

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: the bear and they're they're wearing the Yeah, they're they're

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01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: their buddies for life now. And then when he does

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01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: find find that that receipt, I mean that that scene

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01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: is is completely over the top, but I love how

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Speaker 1: they frame it in the foreground with Balden like slowly

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: loading the rifle. Yeah, Hawkins is reading the receipt and

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01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: the cameras it looks up at it, and then the

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Speaker 1: other thing.

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Speaker 3: As far as how he's a billionaire, I got some

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 3: sense to that by that sandwich he made at the beginning.

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01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: He put yeah, she asked him she's laying in bed,

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Speaker 3: which if I were him, I would be like, this

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01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 3: is the most that was. I thought the most unrealistic

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01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: part of the movie is this beautiful woman lays down

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: in bed and pulls the blankets up to her chin

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 3: and says, would you go get me a sandwich? But

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01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 3: then he goes down and he's got a big ham

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: to carve from, and he takes two like silver dollar

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01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 3: sized pieces of ham and puts them side by side

1206
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 3: on the bread like they're fried eggs, and that's his sandwich.

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01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, wonder this guy has a billion

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01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: dollars in the bank because he's too cheap to make

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01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 3: an actual sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Good for him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I found that to be very odd, the

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 4: sandwich request, but that I guess it made sense because

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01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 4: they wanted to get him down in the kitchen so

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 4: they could yeah, surprise.

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01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: But if I were him, he took it like this

1216
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: is a everyday thing. Yeah, it was just like, oh,

1217
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 3: your midnight sandwich, of course.

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01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: Already, and you probably brush your teeth.

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the eighties or I guess the late nineties.

1220
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: Nobody brushed their teeth back then, my memory serves. So

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Speaker 3: would you recommend this movie to someone's fellow outdoorsman? Could

1222
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: you recommend it to them without losing all of your credibility?

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01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: It would be low on the recommendation list for me.

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01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 6: For me, but if you're even just the least bit baranoid,

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't watch it.

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01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: Phil, What do you got big movie star performances in

1227
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: a movie shot on location. It's it's a relic of

1228
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: the past that I think we need to hold on to. Yep,

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01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: I give it thumbs up. I recommend it.

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01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys texted me to ask if we

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01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: were still doing media or movie club when I was

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01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: about an hour and ten and it's into this thing,

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01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: and I was so pumped at that point in time.

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01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: It's rare. Is it there a movie where I'm just like,

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01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 3: I wonder how much of this is left? You know?

1236
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: Or I'm sorry?

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01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 10: Rare?

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: Is there a movie where I don't ask myself how

1239
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: much of this is left?

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: I followed along. I thought it killed the time pretty quickly,

1243
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 3: and I was enjoyable, and I would recommend it. I'll

1244
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: watch it again.

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01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 4: I gotta say, when I was watching it, there wasn't

1246
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 4: a point in time where I'm like wanting to shut

1247
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 4: it off.

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no dull moments. Yeah yeah. That's the highest

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: compliment you can pay a film. Yeah, as a cinema

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01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: file these days, especially well, gang, I'm glad. I took

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Speaker 3: nine pages of notes on that apologize for the lengthy intro.

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01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: But listeners out there, if you're in the chat way

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: in with your thoughts on the edge, and with that,

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Speaker 3: I think that's all we have for today's show. So

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 3: have a very very happy Thanksgiving. Know that we are

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01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 3: all thankful for you out there listening and watching and

1257
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: YouTube and and enjoy your day with food and family

1258
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 3: and friends and loved ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving folks.

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: That's about as sentimental as I'll get. Meet her to

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Speaker 3: radio live, signing off

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Speaker 1: Look out for bird strikes.