WEBVTT - Send Help with Blair Braverman 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.560 On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.960 and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.080 or do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zephynvest start 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.960 changing with the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:21.320 Hepple, hepple, send, hepple, Jamie, what I misspelled? 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:21.640 Help? 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:22.040 Oh? 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:22.320 No? 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:29.240 Wow? Men really do be misspelling four letter words, don't they. Yeah, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.760 and that's sort of a taste of what this movie 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.840 is like. Yes, welcome to the Bexel Cast. My name's 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:35.880 Jamie Loftis. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.200 My name is Caitlin Derante. This is our show where 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:42.160 we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.400 Bechdel test simply as a jumping off point. And what 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:46.839 might that be? Jamie? 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.720 Well, I can tell you. It is a media measure 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.880 created by friend of the show and namesake of the show, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.640 Alison Bechdel, that was originally created in her comic strip 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.480 I Used to Watch Out for Beck in the eighties 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.800 as a one off joke, has since become more of 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:07.200 a mainstreamified media metric. The version we use requires the 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.160 two characters of a marginalized gender speak about something other 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.679 than a man. For more than two lines of relevant dialogue. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.880 They should also have names, and you know does this? 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.800 This is tricky because I feel like this movie exists 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.039 in if I'm like breaking down all the asterisks to 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.679 the bechel test that we've had to use, difficult to 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.520 pass in a two hander that involves a man as 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:37.560 one of the two, exactly this and nonetheless, nevertheless this 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.280 movie persists. But also that's just our jumping off point. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.480 I guess I've just told you it does pass the 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.560 Bechdel test, but not by a lot. There you go. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.760 You can turn off the showd let's lock in. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.000 Let's lock it in, do it and get our amazing 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.880 guests in the chat. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:02:00.600 Absolutely. She is a writer, an adventurer, and host of 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.680 the podcast that's about survival stories, What to Carry, What 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.080 to Burn? It's Blair Braverman. Welcome. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.200 Hello, I'm so happy to be here. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.160 Welcome, We're like to have you. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.000 So we're talking about Send Help, which came out earlier 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.920 this year, right, yeah, twenty six. Sam Raimi directed. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.519 Feels Like Longer, and boy did this movie choose its 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.799 moments to remind you it's a Sam Raimie movie. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:27.280 It sure does. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.440 If any other person had directed it, those moments would 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.200 be so very confusing. But because it's him, You're like, well, 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.960 I guess contractually he has to do four or five 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:38.320 of these. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.000 Yeah, they're fun moments. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:44.440 For I mean, I'm I'm pro, I'm pro the Raymie 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.800 scary Rami isms, jump scare thing. But yeah, it just 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.120 came out, So I guess it's hard to have a 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.639 storied history with this. But I know, Blair, you were 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:58.120 like truly the perfect guest for this movie. We were 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.320 talking about all the different survival based movies that's out there, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.760 and this is the one that centers around a woman. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.520 So this is this is what we get. We get 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:09.639 this in Baby Island. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.880 Oh my god, Wait what is Baby? 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:13.000 I don't know that one either. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:13.320 Oh. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.120 So, I'm obsessed with survival stories. But I'm also obsessed 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.399 with survival stories like how we tell the stories about survival, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.160 like in kids books and in movies and in all 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.079 these different things. And I went through a couple of 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.400 years ago and I tried to find every story for 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:33.040 kids about survival in the wilderness, and it's pretty much 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:33.680 all about boys. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.480 Because I was a kid, I was a little girl. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:39.200 Who loved like hatchet and yes, survival books. I love Hatchet, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.960 and it is very hard to find a book for 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.920 kids about a kid in the wilderness, my side of 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.520 the Mountain type story where the kid is a girl, 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.240 And you'll get these very weird genres when there's a 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.480 girl in filve So either she's like fleeing sexual assaults 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.720 or abuse, right like Julia the Wolves. Or you have 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:05.360 a book like Baby Island, which is an incredible work 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.000 of literature, and it is a survival story about two 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.920 little girls who are stranded on an island, a desert island, 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.520 and have to survive, except for they also get stranded 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.800 with four babies no. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:17.919 So at the time. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.080 Yeah, So as they're learning how to like eat bananas 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.159 for food and try to like send messages and bottles, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.480 they're also learning how to deal with colic and like 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.960 what to do if a baby is slow to walk, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.599 and how to get these four babies to keep the 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.400 Lord's day, oh my desert Island. And it's this amazing 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.760 sort of confluence of genres that I truly think is 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:45.200 like progressive in a way because the authors like little girls, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.800 like desert islands, and they like babies, so I wanted 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:48.839 to give them both. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.159 Just seems like so much work for these kids. I 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.640 love that there's I'm looking at this the cover right now. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:01.240 I feel like there is a very fun modern adaptation 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.120 of this story. And also like, because it came out 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.599 in nineteen thirty seven, they're like, Okay, we can't just 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.760 have girls on an island. They have to be doing 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.000 some sort of sort of parenting as well. That's why 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.320 I'd never heard of that before. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.479 Yeah, like motherhood is hard for these girls. It's even 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.680 harder because they're stranded on a desert island. But like, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.679 I recognize the absurdity of the book, but I really 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.560 do think like I'm for it. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.440 Yeah, so it's very bizarre. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.400 And I also feel like survival stories about women tend 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.240 to like, Okay, this is my theory going into this 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.359 before I even saw the movie, is like, when someone 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.560 is stranded in the wilderness in some way and we're 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.000 telling a story about it, they either tame the wilderness 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.960 or they go feral. So they either turn the wilderness 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:53.400 into like a functioning society allah Robinson Caruso, or they 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.320 go feral and become wild themselves. And that's what happens 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.800 to women in these stories. Interesting okay, which I would 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.839 say that Send Help fits into that category if she 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.720 sort of becomes a wild beast herself, or like they 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.200 become like witchy or just sort of like I don't know. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:10.080 It was interesting. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.800 I mean, farrell is a good word for it. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.680 I feel like, yeah, totally, that's so interesting because I 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.720 was thinking so much about this movie compared to have 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.200 you seen Triangle of Sadness? 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:22.560 No, I haven't. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.839 I was thinking a lot about Triangle of Sadness, same movie. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.760 It's a very similar movie. I think Triangle of Sadness 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.400 a little matter. But yeah, but I feel like it's 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.039 because well we can talk about it in the discussion. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.279 I feel like this movie holds back in these like 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.479 weird ways that feel kind of gendered. And also, I 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.600 guess it's worth saying that Send Help is a movie 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.880 that centers around a woman that is written by two 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.840 men and directed by a man, which I do feel 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:57.320 like you can feel in certain moments and choices. But 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.520 that's so fascinating that like Blair, that makes so much, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.600 that makes so much sense. It's almost like you've spent 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:07.120 a lot of time thinking about this. That's wild. Yeah, 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.400 because I mean, and then compared to I guess, what 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:15.000 are the directions when the survival story centers around a man. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.800 How does that manifest differently with like the response to 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:22.280 the environment in these stories usually with men. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.400 You see the pattern of them quote unquote taming the wilderness, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.400 you know, sort of creating a functional society, like having 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.800 it's very dominance over nature. So you know, the phrase 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.240 you'll hear on survival shows is like, I'm gonna make 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.600 nature my bitch is a phrase you'll hear a lot, 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.640 which is an absurd It is such an absurd concept 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.000 to begin with. Truly, Yeah, nature is definitely gonna. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.040 Make you her bitch. That's how these things. 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.200 Work, kind of undefeated. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:54.200 I mean, it's nature is indifferent, like it's these things. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.600 These concepts don't translate onto wilderness. We are trying to 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.200 take our human concepts and project them onto something that 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.720 is so utterly indifferent that it reduces them to absurdity. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.400 But yeah, normally you would see. 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.000 I mean there's an interesting way in this movie that 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.400 she also is is a very competent survivor, yeah, and 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.760 is able to sort of create like a survival version 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.920 of an executive desk on a beach, on a Tropical Island, 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.880 so she's kind of doing both. I don't know, we'll 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:24.520 get into. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.160 It, right, but then at the end, I mean I 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.920 also on this viewing, I was like, I don't like 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.480 the end of this movie, but well, we'll get into it. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.000 So did you see this movie when it came out 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.080 or is this your first time? 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:36.120 I just saw it now. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.280 Ooh, I'm excited. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.680 I've been interested in it, but I hadn't. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.480 I hadn't. Dug in Caitlyn. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.320 I think we might have the same history with this 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:44.920 movie because we saw it together. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.320 We sure did. We saw it in theaters. I'm trying 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.320 to think who else was with us? Was it Bryan 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.760 Bryan Grant Grant Okay. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:58.760 Yes, three amazing key hymns at the AMC with us? 0:08:58.800 --> 0:08:59.400 Really cool? 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.080 Yeah, yeah, so yeah, we saw it in theaters. It 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:08.280 came out in late January, right, so, but I hadn't 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.840 seen it since then. But it came onto streaming. I 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:16.640 forget which platform, Disney Plus. Yeah, and it was like 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.280 one of the most streamed movies ever or. 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:26.080 Something which actually does scan for me, and I still 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:31.440 didn't understand how like streaming they assisted translates to money 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.960 through subscriptions. But I'm like, no one's signing up for 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.840 a movie for Send Help. But I feel like Send 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.360 to Help being success successful and streaming makes sense to 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.199 me because it feels so very much like a movie 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.280 you would watch on a plane, even though it heavily 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:50.040 features a plane crash. And I feel like movies that 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.600 are successful on streaming are plane movies. We were talked 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:55.920 about that that's a theory I have. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.320 No I think you're onto something. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.360 Yeah, a good streaming movie. Unfortunately you should be able 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.480 to kind of fall asleep during it. And this is 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.000 a good movie, but this is a plain movie, I feel. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.320 I'm with you. Yeah, yeah it was. It was like 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.560 heavily streamed, so but also I'm like, is it one 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.719 of those things where like people actually watched it or 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.640 was it just the next thing that came on, whether 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.679 or not you were sitting in front of your TV 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.000 actively consuming it or not. Who knows? 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.200 The algorithm moves in mysterious ways. I mean, this is 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.240 a really good movie and it was like successful, it 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.800 was successful financially. I'm glad it's successful, and streaming it's whatever. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:35.880 I'm the bar is so low right now that it's 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.520 like original story that centers around a woman being successful, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.920 no further questions, like, fine, we'll take it. But it's 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.600 also our job to look at it very carefully because 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.199 it is so like speaking to your point that it's 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.400 sent help in Baby Island, a book that is almost 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:58.319 ninety years old. It's like, this is this is rare 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.960 in a way that I don't think was really a 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.199 part of this movie's narrative as it came out, well. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.319 I was thinking about I was like, wasn't there a 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:15.360 Reese Witherspoon wilderness survival movie Wild, Although I'm not sure 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.120 how much of it is, Like I haven't seen it, 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.800 so I don't know how much of it is her 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.560 like trying to survive, but it's about a woman who 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:29.480 takes an eleven hundred mile solo hike through I'm guessing 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.960 the wild, hence the name of the movie, as a 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:37.080 way to recover from a recent personal tragedy according to 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.400 the log line of the movie. So I don't know 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.480 much about that. And if it really if it falls 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.560 into this camp of stories we're talking about. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.520 I would hear I'm going to be such a survival nerd, please, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.840 I would categorize those differently because to me, there's a 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.800 difference between going into wilderness recreationally and being stuck there 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.120 for sure, And so for me it becomes to me 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.640 like it fits into the category of survival story if 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.920 someone can't get out, yeah, and so for her going 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.520 on a hike, it's like a wilderness story. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:09.920 But it's not. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.000 It's very intentional. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:11.920 It's not quite part of. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.680 The same genre. It's a different genre, fair sort of 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.040 a tracker and adventure story as opposed to survival. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.840 Got it, So Send Help, Baby Island. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.920 Those two are definitely the same genre. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.880 And then also, I mean you mentioned it already, Jamie, 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.840 but Triangle of Sadness, and I guess like skip ahead 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.880 about two minutes if you want to avoid spoilers for 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.359 Triangle of Sadness. But the whole time I was watching 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.079 Send Help the first time, I was like, I've already 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:45.160 seen this movie and this and it's Triangle of Sadness 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.960 in the sense that the main characters include a man 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.320 who has a set of qualities that a like western 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:59.880 capitalist society values and a woman whose qualities are not 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:05.080 nearly as valued by said society. Then they are stranded 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:09.520 on a tropical island and suddenly the woman's qualities and 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.600 skills are necessary for survival, and the man has no 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.960 wilderness survival skills, so the dynamic between them significantly shifts, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.719 where the woman now holds all the power, and then 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:29.280 also that it turns out the uninhabited island is actually inhabited, 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:33.120 and then some murders happen along the way, partly because 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.120 the woman doesn't want to give up her power and 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.360 go back to her life where she was undervalued, which 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.360 is basically the premise of both movies. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.080 Yes, but I will say that where sendh Help, I 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.400 mean I like Send Help because I think what it 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.800 has going for it is it is like way more 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:52.720 broadly comedic than Triangle of Sadness, definitely a different tone, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.760 and that it is like firmly centered on Linda, where 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.480 Triangle of Sadness is more of a like I mean, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.520 I forget the name of the character who she becomes 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.000 very important, but she's not like the protagonist for sure. 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.120 Yeah, it's more ensemble cast vibes. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.000 Yeah, but there are a lot. I mean it is 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.400 if you've seen both movies, it is a very like 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.960 similar similar to the back half of that movie. And 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.360 I think does a lot of what this movie does 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:21.960 a little more. I think it was just like a 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.960 little less afraid of some of the themes I think 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.680 this movie is. This movie is very and then we'll 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.000 take a break and talk about what happens in the movie. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.560 But my as I was rewatching it for the show 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.600 and not just for fun, what was sticking out to 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.200 me was like it for a very long time. It 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.080 was like it seems like the story was afraid to 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.320 let Linda do something like morally bad, like they hold 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:52.880 out so long, including like this movie is for starring 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:57.080 two tremendously hot people stranded on an island completely sexless. 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.720 We have to play by thirty rock rules where we're like, right, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:05.360 Rachel McAdams is fugly. I hate to see her coming. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:10.240 She's certainly not one of our most beautiful people. Sure, fine, Right, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.360 movies will ask us to do this and we have 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.480 we have to, we have to comply. But yeah, I 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.680 don't know. They were like a few themes that they 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.760 do address, and triangle of sadness. Sex does become part 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.280 of the equation in an icky way, and triangle of 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.600 sadness and the way that power is explored just feels 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.400 a little less like oh, we're not gonna you know, 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.200 we'll deal with the violence around this plot, but we 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.960 won't deal with sex or desire or anything like that, 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.640 which I thought was like just kind of weird. And 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.560 then the good for her ending is something we've seen many, many, 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.240 many times at this point. But well, we'll get there, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.760 we'll get there. Should we should we take a quick break. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:16:03.480 Let's do it, and we're And here is the recap 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:09.400 of Send Help. We meet Linda Little played by Rachel McAdams. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.840 She's she's ugly, she's hideous, ugly, ugly, ugly. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.000 Her hair is greasy, and I the first moment she 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.280 came in, I was like, I'm calling now her hair 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.600 is going to be less greasy on the desert island 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.800 than it is in her office, And that was true. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:26.280 We're right, I do. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.320 I'm like, I want to give the movie a pass 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.400 on the like, the two main characters are such stock 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.840 characters that you kind of just have to roll with it, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.840 but the fact that they go out of their way 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:42.240 later for Rachel McAdams to realize she's beautiful. Actually, when 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.960 she looks at her reflection, I'm like, al right, she 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.960 literally takes her glasses off, you know, two very broad 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.880 gendered types are appearing in this movie. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.680 Yeah, she takes her glasses off, lets her hair down, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.880 she's all that style, and suddenly she's gorgeous. But it's 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.880 also implied that like the eye lind makes her hotter. 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.439 This is where, okay, this is where it kind of 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.159 got into like lost vibes, and I'm like, ooh, I 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.920 love it. There's there are similarities between the character of 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.159 Linda Little and the character of John Locke on Lost 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.959 in that she really comes alive when hunting Bore and 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.600 everyone's like, what the hell, why how are they hunting bore? 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.159 And magical properties on the island making it so that 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.960 you don't need glasses and or don't have cancer anymore. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:29.720 It's kind of Lost vibes. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.639 Yeah, that's so true. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.800 I really appreciate the costume designer who figured out what 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.000 she should be wearing to look like she was frumpy 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.600 in an office that would then turn into an outfit 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:45.000 that looked cool on a desert island. Yes. Yes, as 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.600 she gradually took the layers off like that, that is 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.000 some costume design. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.080 By the end, she's in a she's like washboard abs 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.040 in a crop top and you're like, why the hell not, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.680 why the hell not? Yes, this this the ugliest woman 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.160 at work. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.720 Sure, right, So this is her character. Her hair and 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:10.080 her clothes are unkempt. She's like socially awkward and generally tuna. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.320 It's stuck to her face and she works in this 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:18.080 office surrounded by a bunch of like dude bros. And 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.600 everyone is undermining her at work. We also learn that 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:27.119 she is obsessed with the show Survivor and with like 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.000 survival stuff in general, where she has all of these 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.720 books on how to survive in the wilderness and there's 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:38.720 all these pictures of her camping or otherwise outside doing 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.960 something in the wilderness. So back at work, when the 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:49.600 boss's son, Bradley Preston played by Dylan O'Brien, takes over 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:54.879 the company for his dad, Bradley gives the promotion to 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:59.560 VP that his father had promised to Linda. He gives 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.320 it to this guy named Donovan instead, who's another like 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:08.360 Fratborough guy who had taken credit for this big report 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.280 that Linda had prepared, and he takes all the credit 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.320 for her work. Linda confronts Bradley about not getting the promotion, 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.520 and he basically says that she is not likable enough 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.440 to get the job and that she eats too much 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.040 stinky tuna. Yeah, but he does invite her along to 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.600 this meeting about the Bangkok merger. 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.280 She it seems like she is the only person I 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.080 mean whatever, Like the movie does go way out of 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.239 its way to show that, like she obviously is the 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.000 person for the job, She's the only person that seems 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.360 to have cracked how this merger could take place. Who 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.719 knows how the hell that shit works. This is the 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.280 first of many times I don't know why, Like it 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.000 didn't bug me when I was just like watching it 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.479 in the theater. But both both lead characters in this 0:19:55.520 --> 0:20:02.480 movie are so frustratingly gullible at every turn. Linda is like, yeah, 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.720 when you work at a company for seven years, they 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.800 then treat you well. I'm like, what year is it, Linda, 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.760 wake up? Wake up? Uh? And then when later when 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:16.440 these two just are obsessed with accepting food from each other, 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.760 I'm like, guys, guys, we have to stop accepting food 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.880 from each other. Anyways. 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.320 Yeah, they're two back to vaccines where they poison each other, 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:27.400 But we'll get there. 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:33.560 There is parody in in gullible decision making here right, Yeah, Okay. 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:38.280 So Linda Bradley, that guy Donovan, a couple of other 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:43.960 of like Bradley's bro buddies board a private jet to Thailand, 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.879 and on the plane, the men find Linda's audition tape 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:54.280 for Survivor, in which she's talking about how she knows 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.719 how to survive in the wilderness and she knows all 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.080 of the ways that you can make fire and has 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.600 all these other skills. But the guys are laughing at her, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.760 and so she's humiliated. 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:08.240 God, it's such a good audition tape, though, She's like, 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.080 she's like scaling playgrounds, like doing ridiculous. 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:13.600 It's so good it would get. 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:14.160 Her on the show. 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.000 I know, I thought they were covering. I also like, 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.760 how dare you make fun of someone's uh survivor audition 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.080 tape that is a that is a grand tradition. 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:25.360 Huh. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:29.439 Well yeah, because Blair, you you've been on survival shows before, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.840 and so it's like if you if you approve it's good. 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:33.760 Well, I don't know. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.520 I never had an audition tape. I was recruited. 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:41.400 You're but I I. 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.280 Mean, it's just gonna be ridiculous. You're just like they're 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.640