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Speaker 1: America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: That means it's a don't call a throwback Thursday. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna love what we got for you. Next hour, Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah's going to join us in twenty five minutes. We'll

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Speaker 1: get you ready for preseason games in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Is as we've been telling you, this is the week.

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Speaker 1: By the end of this week, every team in the

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Speaker 1: league will have played a preseason game. Everyone, and unlike

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Speaker 1: previous years, a lot of these teams are playing their

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Speaker 1: really exciting. Hey, welcome in. Boys are all here and

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Speaker 1: we are excited to get out for it tomorrow. Quick

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Speaker 1: programming note, JAYSU, you're off right. You got a little

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Speaker 1: mini vacation.

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Speaker 2: Is that right, that is correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So unfortunately I don't get to work with you guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Cowherd show tomorrow, and then is Dan

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Speaker 1: doing my show tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer, and for Doug Gottlie tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Great, that's awesome, great job, great job, everybody, great job everybody.

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Speaker 1: I love that drop. A big fan of that drop. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's just get after it. There there sound now of

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Speaker 1: arch Manning. Excuse me, Archie Manning saying that arch Manning?

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Speaker 1: What's the old leak? Courso not so fast, my friends

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Speaker 1: on people putting him number one their draft boards because

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Speaker 1: he'll be at Texas next year. What I love about

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Speaker 1: just how we built it, but also the time slot

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Speaker 1: is it gives everybody a chance to talk about these things.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, you get And it doesn't mean that I'm

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the Cowherds of the world, the Dan Patrick's

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Speaker 1: you that I I think we're doing something. And this

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Speaker 1: is in regards to all of college football, all of it.

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Speaker 1: But I'll use arch Manning as the as the kind

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Speaker 1: a listen to something for a second. Well, well, first, here's

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Speaker 1: the deal with arch Manning. Okay, here's the deal Archie

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Speaker 1: Manning saying Archill play at Texas. I don't believe it's

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Speaker 1: But all Archie Manning is saying about his grandson is, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I believe, right, Michael Pennix, How good was he last year?

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Speaker 2: Don't call it a throwback.

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Speaker 4: Throw back Thursday, Jay stew thank you, Doug.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it from here, Doug, I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 5: I want to have on everyone on the show, including

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Speaker 5: two thousand and seven, eighteen years ago, eighteen years ago today,

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Speaker 5: A historic feat that nobody cares about happened. It sounded

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Speaker 5: a little like this, Sam Deals and.

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Speaker 2: Bobs from What's Your Day? Seven fifty.

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Speaker 5: Bob stands out, So a very roided up Barry Bonds

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Speaker 5: He hit home run number seven fifty six. Of course,

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Speaker 5: Hank Aaron had their record for many years after passing

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Speaker 5: He was the poster child on a sham of an

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Speaker 5: era in baseball. So historic night, Doug, Hank Aaron's record goes,

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Speaker 5: Barry Bonds hits a home run. What do you remember

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Speaker 5: most about that two thousand and seven sports year.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's just start with the Barry Bonds thing. I've

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Speaker 1: it actually shows how incredible Henry Aaron was that here.

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Speaker 1: Barry Bonds is one of the great hitters of all time,

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Speaker 1: all time before he rooted up, and yet he needed

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Speaker 6: Huh man, Well he went down to Kansas, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Awful Rihanna was uh, Rihanna reached number one that year?

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Speaker 1: Billboard song that year. Okay, still around. I think they

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Speaker 1: know anyway. Avril Levine, I that's the name I haven't

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: People say that she's got a she was like, disappeared

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Speaker 6: a long time ago, and ever since she's had this

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Speaker 6: and of course I say it's not. It's really her,

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Speaker 6: But there are there are stories out there that she

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted, like, I've always want to pretend that

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Speaker 1: I've people have done that. I had some young guy

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Speaker 1: Traverse City, Michigan. Some guy goes Michigan Tech like you're

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Speaker 1: with your.

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Speaker 6: Right but someone recognizes you.

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Speaker 1: That's great, sort of we lost the Michigan Tech and

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Speaker 1: you Facecottlib. It was weird. It's like, hi, but I

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Speaker 1: do I love when people go like, you know what

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Speaker 1: you know, like Doug Gottlieb, Like I get that all

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I'm not Doug though I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not Timberland, timbaland anybody heard from Timberland. No T Payne

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Speaker 1: I think I ended Neo's presence because I picked his

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Speaker 1: pocket in the was a ESPN celebrity game before the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game. Carrie Underwood still around, although not releasing albums.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Clark Stefani.

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Speaker 6: She's she's very relevant because she does, like, you know,

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Speaker 6: her own show, her own daytime show, cooking show. She's

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Speaker 6: uh still very much in the public eye.

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Speaker 1: Both tunks at Harvey. I've had a I've had a

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Speaker 1: crush on Gwen Savanni.

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Speaker 6: For a long time, great voice.

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Speaker 1: And that's don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 1: So Diana Tarazzi is in the news. She is, by

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Speaker 1: many people's estimation, the greatest women's player of all time.

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Speaker 1: Uh So she had this to say. There's a docu

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Speaker 1: series on Prime and so she had this to say

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Speaker 1: about WNBA paychecks when she played.

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Speaker 8: I'm the best player in the world and I have

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Speaker 8: to go to a communist country to get paid like

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Speaker 8: a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,

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Speaker 8: my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a

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Speaker 8: big part of it. We weren't making that much money,

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Speaker 8: so generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.

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Speaker 8: Now we have to come back home and get paid

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Speaker 8: nothing to play in a harder league in worse conditions.

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Speaker 2: Against the best competition in the world.

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Speaker 8: The janitor at Arena made more than me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lot to it there. The first is

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Speaker 1: that we have to start with the understanding, okay, of

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Speaker 1: how it comes off. And I will be completely honest

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Speaker 1: with you. I don't always come off the way I

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Speaker 1: think I come off right. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: us are guilty of that. Right where you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: I thought that went great, and you walk out and

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Speaker 1: somebody's like, how'd it go like that. It was not good,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean I can think of times in

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Speaker 1: which I've said things on TV and on radio that

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Speaker 1: I thought came out one way, and then I listened

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Speaker 1: back or watch back, like, oh, that wasn't exactly I

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Speaker 1: want to come out. But the what's the word? The sheer,

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Speaker 1: hurricance and just kind of obnoxious sort of feel to

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Speaker 1: it is uh yeah, ye, she sounds obnoxious. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the only real way to put it. She sounds obnoxious. First,

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Speaker 1: Russia was not a communist country when she went there.

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Speaker 1: I played in Russia before she did. Russia. Look, you

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Speaker 1: could they could, you could call it a dictatorship now,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a communist country has been communist. Second,

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Speaker 1: it's basic economics. Not everything that is valued in this

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Speaker 1: country is valued elsewhere. Not everything that is valued elsewhere

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Speaker 1: is valued here. Perfect example is if you're Kristin Polisic, right,

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Speaker 1: have you ever heard him say like, Hey, I'm the

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Speaker 1: best player on the US men's national team and I

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Speaker 1: have to go overseas to go play when my family's

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Speaker 1: at home and they're getting older. Has anybody ever said that,

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Speaker 1: what do i'd like men's soccer players? You know, they

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Speaker 1: got to go over sea. They're the best in the world,

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Speaker 1: and we like soccer here. We just don't have a

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Speaker 1: league where you can generate that kind of money. Where

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Speaker 1: are the MLS players coming out and going like this

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Speaker 1: is wrong. The janitor makes more than me, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, not accurate. You're only playing for three months,

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Speaker 1: you know, back then when she was playing, and she's

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Speaker 1: making a ton of money craft a ton of money

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Speaker 1: in endorsements. But again the other part too, it is like, look,

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Speaker 1: you basically were in a startup that was not making money.

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Speaker 1: You were working at a restaurant, and you're comparing your

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Speaker 1: restaurant to another restaurant that's been going for one hundred

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Speaker 1: years that everybody loves, right, and what is it eighty

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Speaker 1: five percent of restaurants failed within the first couple of years.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that number varies, but it's just you

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Speaker 1: sound most great athletes when they get done, they have

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Speaker 1: a certain confidence, but grace to them and whatever bitterness

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Speaker 1: they have may be in rivalries, but all of it

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Speaker 1: end up leading to this place where I got consider

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Speaker 1: the greatest player ever. I traveled all over the world

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Speaker 1: to play and look at the WNBA now as opposed

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Speaker 1: to when I started. I take a great amount of

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Speaker 1: pride in it. But instead you're sitting there complaining about

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Speaker 1: a league that was hemorrhaging money for twenty five years

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Speaker 1: because you're bitter and you're jealous that the players, now,

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Speaker 1: especially one particular player who you don't think is at

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Speaker 1: your level, is making more money than you did. That's

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Speaker 1: called being petty. Let's bring in Dan Jeremiah. He joins

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Speaker 1: us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Of course, DJ is the lead analyst in the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: he's the lead analyst in the Chargers radio network, and

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Speaker 1: of course he has moved the six podcast. He joins

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Speaker 1: us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trado.

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Speaker 1: By the way, so do you work for ESPN.

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Speaker 9: Now, I just got off of a zoom, Doug. We

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Speaker 9: just had a informational zoom kind of clarifying where everything

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Speaker 9: was with NFL network in ESPN, and I just I

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Speaker 9: had one question I wanted to ask but I didn't

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Speaker 9: get to it, which was now that it looks like

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Speaker 9: this deal is going to happen, how long you know

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Speaker 9: on the timeline of this thing when it can be

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Speaker 9: agreed to. How long before Baldy is allowed to compete

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Speaker 9: on ww E RAW. I don't know, you know if

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Speaker 9: that needs to wait until everything gets finalized or you know,

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Speaker 9: when we can get him in the ring. But it's

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Speaker 9: going to be neat to have new partners.

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Speaker 1: Yes, crazy, crazy, crazy stuff. Dan Jeremiah joins us in

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Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did

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Speaker 1: you say we got to get to I Loo for

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Speaker 1: a quick update? Said it? Yeah, let's okay. I look,

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Speaker 1: can you give me the details of Rashaan Slater really quick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Today, the Pro Bowl left tackle taken off the practice

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Speaker 7: field in a card. It appeared to be a left

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Speaker 7: leg injury. The Athletic reported that after the injury, by

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Speaker 7: the way, Hi, DJ, glad your padres, hear your voice.

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Speaker 7: Glad your padres are doing well, but not really.

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Speaker 2: We'll get there, of course.

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Speaker 7: The Athletic reported that after the injury, Slater threw his helmet,

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Speaker 7: he slammed his hand on the cart and buried his

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Speaker 7: head in his hands. That's all the details that are

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Speaker 7: available right now. This happened just over an hour ago.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm.

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Speaker 9: That's just brutal, you know, he just got the contract

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Speaker 9: done too that you know, sat out a little bit.

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Speaker 9: He had some issues with his foot, you know, early

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Speaker 9: on in camp, so that couple with the contract. You know,

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Speaker 9: he went practicing early, but showed up in great shape

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Speaker 9: and you're hoping he's going to have a monster year

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Speaker 9: with a team that wants to run the ball and

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Speaker 9: has really invested in the offensive line with his new

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Speaker 9: contract as well as with Joe Alt. In year two,

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Speaker 9: they go out and signed Mackay Beckton. So I haven't

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Speaker 9: heard the finality of it, but when you hear those

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Speaker 9: details about you know, his head's and a towel and

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Speaker 9: everybody's coming up and tapping him on the shoulder as

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Speaker 9: he's being cart off the field. That didn't look good.

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Speaker 1: No, no, not not not great. Have you been to

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Speaker 1: Chargers practice?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been out there, been out there a couple

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Speaker 9: of times. You know, they everybody's positive this time of year,

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Speaker 9: you know for sure, but they they are. I think

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Speaker 9: they're really deep on defense. I think you saw that

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Speaker 9: in the preseason game against the Lions. You know at

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Speaker 9: Lions obviously either team playing their front line players, but

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Speaker 9: two teams that are viewers haven't talented rosters, and the

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Speaker 9: back end of the back end of the roster for

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Speaker 9: the Chargers beat the stuffing out of the Lions. So

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Speaker 9: it's a it's a deeper team for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to what people in the league are saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's no question to me that that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, like it's every year with the Cowboys drama, right,

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Speaker 1: every single year with the Cowboys drama. It feels like,

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Speaker 1: but in this particular case, like he's gonna play for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, So I mean, and he's doing a hold in.

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Speaker 1: So what are people in the league saying with the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys right now?

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Speaker 9: Oh, everybody's expecting them to get done. It just kind

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Speaker 9: of seems, you know, like this is the unnecessary path

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Speaker 9: that you go down, and it gets kind of contentious

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Speaker 9: and gets ugly, but then eventually the Cowboys end up

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Speaker 9: giving in a little bit and they'll and they'll get

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Speaker 9: the deal done. So I've talked anybody in the league

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Speaker 9: that thinks this isn't going to happen. I was out

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Speaker 9: there at their joint practice with the Rams the other day,

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Speaker 9: and you know when Jimmy Garoppolo was just carving them

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Speaker 9: up like a Thanksgiving Turkey. I think it was pretty

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Speaker 9: good idea. That'd be nice to have Micael Parsons on

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Speaker 9: that defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question, no question. Okay, what about Cleveland? You know,

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Speaker 1: there's I've heard from a couple of people, not a time,

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Speaker 1: but a couple of people on television say they're setting

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Speaker 1: your door standers up to fail, right, throwing them out

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Speaker 1: there and with the ones in the preseason game when

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Speaker 1: he's barely practiced with the ones. My perception of it

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Speaker 1: is like, are you kidding your fifth round draft pick?

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Speaker 1: You gets a chance to play with the ones? That's great.

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Speaker 1: That gives you the best chance to succeed because you're

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Speaker 1: playing with better players that they they're actually going to

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Speaker 1: be playing this season for the Browns. What's your take

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Speaker 1: on how they're handling Shadure concerning the injuries they've had

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Man, I kind of guess was late to this in

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Speaker 9: terms of seeing this as a quote unquote controversy. But

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Speaker 9: I mean I'm like, am I missing something? There's just

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Speaker 9: quarterbacks are hurt, so the next guy is gonna go

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Speaker 9: in and get more opportunities. Like that happens in every camp,

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Speaker 9: you know, at all different positions across the league every

648
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 9: single year. You know, you just guys get hurt, and

649
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Speaker 9: that gives other guys opportunity to get out there and play.

650
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Speaker 9: And nobody's going to be one hundred percent ready to

651
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 9: play as a rookie when they get out in the field.

652
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Speaker 9: But that's what's that's what's about. Get out there, get

653
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Speaker 9: some reps, get some experience, and to be honest with you,

654
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Speaker 9: preseason is like the most bland, you know form of

655
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 9: football where I think it's easiest for guys who have

656
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 9: talent to show out because you're not. There's nothing's going

657
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 9: to trick you, a confusion with what they're doing. There's

658
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Speaker 9: nothing that your lack of experience will keep you from,

659
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Speaker 9: you know, finding success. Like it's basic, you know, junior

660
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 9: high level scheme. You're going to see here on both

661
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Speaker 9: sides of the ball. Just go out there, makes rows,

662
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Speaker 9: make good decisions. I find it hard to do both

663
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Speaker 9: things right. You can't both believe in him and then

664
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Speaker 9: also be nervous and scared for him, Like it's not

665
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Speaker 9: you can't do both of those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I really don't get it. I'm glad

667
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Speaker 1: you sort of agreed with me. I just I don't

668
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Speaker 1: get it at all. Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, what do you think they do in terms

670
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Speaker 1: of who they keep.

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Speaker 9: I've always thought that that Kenny Pickett was going to

672
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Speaker 9: be the odd man out and was going to be,

673
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Speaker 9: you know, a trade piece if there was an injury

674
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 9: around the league, then he would be that guy that

675
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 9: would be kind of sent out and see what you

676
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Speaker 9: can get for him. But I mean, I don't know.

677
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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't have any inside information there of

678
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Speaker 9: what that looks like with the with the young rookies.

679
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Speaker 9: I just it was hard for me to think that

680
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Speaker 9: they would, you know, they would move on from one

681
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Speaker 9: of those guys this early on in the process, not

682
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Speaker 9: knowing what you have to me, it makes a lot

683
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Speaker 9: of sense. Those guys are on the roster and Flacco.

684
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Speaker 9: I thought Kenny Pickett would just have to be the

685
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Speaker 9: light years better than everybody else to make it, and

686
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Speaker 9: I don't know, because of me injury, that's going to

687
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Speaker 9: be difficult for him to do.

688
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Speaker 1: Archie Manning came out in a Texas publication. Fox Sports

689
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Speaker 1: has picked it up, saying, Hey, arch is going to

690
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Speaker 1: be at the University of Texas next year. I'll give

691
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Speaker 1: you my thoughts in a second. What are your thoughts

692
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Speaker 1: when you hear that.

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Speaker 9: I think that's kind of been the plan. I mean,

694
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Speaker 9: if you talk to anybody that's connected to the family,

695
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 9: that was always kind of the expectation that he was

696
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Speaker 9: not going to be in a hurry to rush off

697
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Speaker 9: to the NFL. And his dad and uncle state for

698
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 9: a while and played a lot of snaps, and I

699
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 9: think they're smart enough to realize, hey, let's get the

700
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Speaker 9: experience and get developed there at Texas where you can

701
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 9: playing playing with a lot of talent, coached by a

702
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Speaker 9: good quarterback guy in Sark. To me, I was kind

703
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 9: of always expected that he was going to, you know,

704
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Speaker 9: want to stay another year after this year. Now, who knows,

705
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Speaker 9: maybe he goes out when's the Heisman Trophy and he's

706
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Speaker 9: so much better than everybody else, and you say, what

707
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Speaker 9: is there left to prove? But I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 1: No, And again, you know, his uncles both had the

709
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Speaker 1: exact same kind of path and they stayed for an

710
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Speaker 1: extra year. And I think he can stay for two years,

711
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Speaker 1: two more years if you wanted anyway. But I thought

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Speaker 1: to you, like he started three games, like, what are

713
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Speaker 1: we actually do?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, let them play, and if you look at it,

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Speaker 9: I mean everything, especially over the last handful of years,

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Speaker 9: the guys that have succeeded the guys who played a

717
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Speaker 9: lot of football in college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Well I don't know if you heard

719
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Speaker 1: the interview, but I thought it was I mean, I

720
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Speaker 1: think he knew what he was saying, but it's it

721
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Speaker 1: came across super weird. You know, Bengals are playing tonight,

722
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Speaker 1: and you know they're talking about playing their guys. First thing.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of some of these teams kind

724
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Speaker 1: of circling back to playing their starters in this first

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Speaker 1: preseason game.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, Kansas City's Andy Reid's always been one

727
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Speaker 9: who's done that, and there's obviously merit into it. And

728
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Speaker 9: then there's a reason why you want to try and

729
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Speaker 9: get off to a hot start. You can't afford to

730
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Speaker 9: give away games early in the season, and even in

731
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Speaker 9: a seventeen game year, you want to be ready to go.

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Speaker 9: And so I get that. I think there's certain teams

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Speaker 9: and coaches that you know, couldn't get away without it.

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Speaker 9: Without doing it, I don't think there's just this is

735
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Speaker 9: the right way that's the wrong way. I think you

736
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Speaker 9: got to know your team. But you know, most successful

737
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Speaker 9: coaches have a philosophy and they stick to it and

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Speaker 9: they you know, there's the leaf in it, and Andy

739
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Speaker 9: Reid's always been one who's done that. So I was

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Speaker 9: I hate. I hated when the good guys played in

741
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Speaker 9: the preseason when I was with teams because I remember

742
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Speaker 9: Johns and Ogden getting nicked up in the in the

743
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Speaker 9: fourth preseason game one year and just being like, dude's

744
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Speaker 9: Johnson Ogen, like he doesn't need to practice. But you know,

745
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Speaker 9: I kind of see both sides of that argument.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear what Jamar Chase said about his quarterback?

747
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Speaker 9: No?

748
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Speaker 1: And he was, yeah, he was talking about he was

749
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Speaker 1: talking about his quarterback in comparison to Josh Allen, and

750
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Speaker 1: he said that people don't game plan for Joe Burrow.

751
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Speaker 1: They game plan for Josh Allen. And I was like,

752
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: wait what now, obviously the ego of a wide receiver

753
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Speaker 1: is you know, the game plan for me. We got

754
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Speaker 1: all these weapons. But it was a really really odd statement.

755
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Speaker 1: Is it true?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Well, I mean I think that you know, Joe

757
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 9: Burrow is going to be hard to defend, just in

758
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 9: terms of he's equal opportunity. He's gonna he sees the

759
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 9: entire field. He's going to just get the ball where

760
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Speaker 9: it needs to go, and he's going to play the

761
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Speaker 9: game from the pocket. He's not going to be involved

762
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Speaker 9: in a lot of design quarterback runs or anything like that,

763
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Speaker 9: whereas Josh Allen. Maybe Josh Allen's presence can factor into

764
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Speaker 9: what safeties are doing a little bit more, and if

765
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Speaker 9: he starts running the ball, you gotta you've got to

766
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Speaker 9: worry about that aspect of his game. So he's not

767
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Speaker 9: just like a stock pocket passing quarterback. So maybe, you know,

768
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 9: maybe that's what he's trying to reference, but he's got

769
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Speaker 9: the best stock pocket passing quarterback in the league right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I felt like it was an odd statement,

771
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Speaker 1: super super super odd.

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Speaker 9: Usually never great to talk about other guys on other teams.

773
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Speaker 9: That just usually as a head coach, that's good advice

774
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Speaker 9: and probably for a player as well.

775
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's very very good advice. Dan Jeremi is

776
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Speaker 1: our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox

777
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I feel like the NFC North is the

778
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Speaker 1: most interesting maybe quarterback division, and my logic behind it is. Okay,

779
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Speaker 1: you got Golf who's been really good the past couple

780
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Speaker 1: of years and been good at times for the Rams

781
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: as well, But now Ben Johnson's gone, what does it

782
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Speaker 1: look like with a different coordinator. You got Jordan Love

783
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: who last two year has been a starter, injured a

784
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: little bit last year, but also like a little bit

785
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: high on the turnover numbers. This is a big year

786
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Speaker 1: for them, especially considering of the rest of the division.

787
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Speaker 1: Then you got JJ McCarthy. What have you heard? I

788
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: mean again, I can't go off of one highlight on Twitter.

789
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: I can't go off of one person. But you talk

790
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: to everybody in the league. What have you heard of

791
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: it about JJ McCarthy's first preseason as a starter.

792
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Speaker 9: Yeah, for just okay, hasn't blown anybody away. But we

793
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 9: talked about this on our our podcast last week. I

794
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 9: agree with you because I had the same take, which

795
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 9: was that division. You know, the focus on those quarterbacks

796
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Speaker 9: probably the more fascinating, most fascinating one of the league

797
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 9: and not just for you know, how does JJ step

798
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 9: into a complete team? You look at Caleb like the

799
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 9: excuses have been going to be stripped away this year

800
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 9: with with Ben Johnson and with an upgraded offensive line.

801
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 9: Jordan Love and the Packers are kind of like a

802
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 9: sneaky team and that I don't know anybody talks about

803
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 9: them amongst this division. You know, they just kind of

804
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 9: don't get a lot of attention. But they could be really,

805
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 9: really good if he continues to uh, if he takes

806
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Speaker 9: a big step this year. And then I saw the

807
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 9: Lions of the Night and it's preseason. I learned that

808
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 9: playing their guys, but you know there's going to be

809
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 9: questions about them losing their coordinators and what does that

810
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 9: look like? And you know, so I think it's I

811
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Speaker 9: think it's going to be a division we focus and

812
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Speaker 9: I think the two the number one storyline in the

813
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 9: league for me this year is going to be the

814
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Speaker 9: second year quarterbacks. All those guys we saw start last

815
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 9: year and uh, and they've got two of them in

816
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Speaker 9: that division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, he's the one and only Daniel Jeremiah. He

818
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: is now an employee of the Worldwide Leader as well,

819
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Speaker 1: and he's made in many hats. I so you haven't

820
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: gotten to the NFL draft. I don't know what that's

821
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Speaker 1: going to look like next year. That's going to be

822
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Speaker 1: found fascinating, right, are they going to do theirs and

823
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Speaker 1: you guys do yours?

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Speaker 9: I think I think I think this first year, for sure,

825
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 9: everything's the status quo. And then I mean, I don't

826
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Speaker 9: speak out a turn on that, but I think they're

827
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Speaker 9: you know, they under their way of doing business. You

828
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 9: think about the National Championship Game for football and all that.

829
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Speaker 9: They have all those different viewing opportunities and streams. So

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Speaker 9: I know there's I've got a lot of people like, oh,

831
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Speaker 9: what's gonna happen with NFL network draft coverage. I'm like, well,

832
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Speaker 9: I think that, I think that will be okay.

833
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Speaker 1: Right, He's DJ Dan Jeremih. Check out download the Move

834
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Speaker 1: the Sticks podcast. I encourage you to do so. It's awesome, DJ,

835
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Speaker 1: thanks for being our guest.

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Speaker 9: Thanks. And the Dodgers just through the ball awing. Oh no,

837
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Speaker 9: they're off today, that'll be tomorrow.

838
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Speaker 1: Look a look at look at look at the parting

839
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Speaker 1: ways in which he just knife yet just knife? She

840
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: chased to knife?

841
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Speaker 9: Yet four hundred million dollars. You think you get a

842
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 9: little more than that with a payroll of four hundred

843
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 9: million bucks. That's just me.

844
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's okay. I mean, listen all this you

845
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: know this is this is bitterness over the Padres choking

846
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: last offseason when they were talking all that trash.

847
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Speaker 9: If we didn't choke last year, it would have been

848
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 9: three straight years first round exit for the Dodgers. They'll

849
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 9: probably get bounced in the first year this year, so

850
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 9: it's just three out of four years.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to settle around.

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Speaker 1: All Jay Due, that's an all timer. If we didn't

853
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: choke last.

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Speaker 2: Year, Yeah we had if Yeah.

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Speaker 5: If the Dodgers didn't win the World Series, we would

856
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 5: have not won the World Series. If if if, Yeah,

857
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Speaker 5: that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two games, one lead, and yeah, how that work

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Speaker 1: out for it? Thanks? Thanks DJ