WEBVTT - 2: The Receipts 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:14.600 Novel. Hey listeners, this is Ellie Flynn. Before we get started, 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.079 I just want to let you know that this episode 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:21.400 contains swearing, explicit sexual language, and claims of sexual abuse. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:25.600 It's also a story of female empowerment and camaraderie thanks 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.520 to the women who have shared their stories with us. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.560 We contacted the photographer mentioned in this podcast multiple times 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.400 for comment, but we never heard back. He has not 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.080 been charged with any crimes and is presumed innocent under 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:41.600 the law. We also contacted Playboy USA. They state that 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.600 they have asked their licensees to blacklist the photographer mentioned 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.360 in this series and that they prohibit pay to play, 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.760 which you'll hear more about later in the series. Our 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.959 research into his association to Playboy and their statement will 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.400 be detailed in episode four of this series. Oh and 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.680 one more thing. Some of the voice notes you'll hear 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:05.399 in this episode are voiced by actors. It's September twenty twenty, 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.200 just days since the WhatsApp group was created, and Emily's 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.039 phone is already blowing up. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:13.959 Girls. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.040 I'm just having my hair done and I've just come 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.840 to this group and there's like two hundred and sixty 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:19.560 nine messages. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.880 Help girls, I'm loving this group. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.080 You're cracking me up here. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.200 I'll make light of this situation because I'm traumatized. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.080 So ow. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.200 My dog's just dropped a bone on my leg, so. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.760 You know, I'm exactly the same, Emily. I laugh in 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.520 the most darkest situations. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.200 The group was established as a space for the models 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.280 to share their claims of abuse and harassment by photographer 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.600 Luis Gomez. In just days, the group had about a 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.840 dozen members, all models who'd shot with Luise on his 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:54.680 brief UK tour. Messages, voice notes and screenshots were piling 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.000 up and they were all full of support. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.240 Em Glad you said that. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.279 You wouldn't have known what to do because I went. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.520 Alone and he was saying ex the same things to. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:07.600 Me as he was you. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.400 Oh, that's really shit. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.720 That's fucking terrible, fucking hell. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.280 It makes you wonders, isn't it. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.839 If your friends weren't there, what would you have actually done. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.480 The women found their stories were really similar. Nobody's would 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.280 tell you that shooting with him could mean amazing things 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.520 for your career, that he'd take you right to the 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:27.959 top and make you a start. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.280 You feel like you've made it in the modeling world. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:31.440 Especially like Playboy. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.679 Maybe I'll go to America and I'll be really big 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.800 and famous, and I'll be rich and I'll have a yacht. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.040 But then the shoot itself wouldn't be as glamorous as 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.840 Louis had made out. It would take place in a 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.360 shitty hotel room or airbnb, the. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.160 People smoking, weeding them on next door. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.360 It was horrible, horrible, and I'm thinking, why are we 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:56.919 shooting in a hotel? I would have thought publications had studios. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.000 And during the shoot he'd start to pressure you. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.040 I was like, that's enough, and he said no. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.079 I just thought I've got to keep this guy happy. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:08.799 I thought I was going. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.720 To get a full on rate and there was nobody there. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:12.040 It was awful. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.760 The women all shared the same feelings of despair afterwards. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:22.960 The whole experience was just disheartening, degrading. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.800 Oh my god, it was Honestly, it's traumatic. I quit 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.160 my job after. I'm heartbroken, to be completely honest. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.600 The women fell into two categories. Either they were just 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.160 starting out in glamour, green and naive, or the opposite, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.880 on the brink of leaving it all behind and ready 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.160 to risk everything for one last shot at their Playboy dream, 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.080 But all of them had their careers on the line, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.360 and it seemed like Luis knew that and exploited it. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.040 I felt like everything was riding on that poot issue. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.480 He kind of gets you sucked in with how amazing 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:58.880 he is. I'm going to do this, so I'm going 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.720 to do that, and then it's nothing like that. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.520 But at least the women now knew they weren't alone, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.720 and they wanted to make sure Luis Gomez could never 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:17.960 behave like this again. It wasn't going to be easy. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.160 These were women without the influence or money that Luise 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.640 seemed to have. They were glamor models and sex workers, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.120 some of the most overlooked and judged women in society. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.600 But they were ready to shout. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.360 We've all got each other to, you know, support each other. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.200 Our case is going to be solid. We've got so 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.520 much evidence and. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:50.920 So listening to people have their lives debrailed by him. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.279 I'm Ellie Flynn and from the team at Novel. This 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:58.200 is the Bunny Trap, Episode two. The receipts. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:34.560 H M, Hi. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.440 Alive, how are you? 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.240 I've driven to the English countryside on a rainy Friday 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.359 to meet another member of the WhatsApp group. She's a 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.599 former model who goes by the name of Herah. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:52.400 Thank You. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.120 She's warm and friendly and immediately welcomes me into her 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:01.680 home with a cup of tea. Harrah's living room is 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.440 full of personality. It's got black and white striped walls 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.680 that she painted herself, and her own artworks hang everywhere. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.960 It's very different from the CD hotel room where she 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.560 met Louise Gomez in August twenty twenty. Back then, Hera 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.480 was just beginning her modeling career. She was out of 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.359 work during the pandemic, and with two kids to raise, 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.240 she turned her OnlyFans to help make ends meet. So 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.839 when Louis Gomez wanted to shoot with her, she saw 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.279 an opportunity for a better life. After all, he had 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.400 shot for Playboy. It would come at a cost, though 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.440 Louise wanted six hundred pounds for the shoot. It was 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.120 a lot of money for an out of work single mum, 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.560 but Hera wanted to get noticed by Playboy. That's how 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.280 she justified the cost of the shoot and the cost 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.880 of getting ready. How much moneaged to think you spent 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.440 in preparation beforehand? 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:54.640 Oh gosh. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.679 She included the boathowk's lips and then obviously there's the clothes, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.120 about six to seven hundred pounds. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.920 Harra says she told Louise that she wanted to do 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.360 topless only, but despite taking a friend with her to 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.000 the shoot, she says, Louise pushed her levels. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:18.720 It escalated really really quickly. Within about ten minutes. I 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.960 had everything off with my legs open, which is not 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:22.679 what I wanted. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:24.920 And how did that happen? What kind of things was 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:25.400 he saying? 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.120 Basically telling me that I was too shy and that 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.560 everyone else does it, so why aren't you doing it? 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.000 You know, if you want to be in Playboy, this 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.040 is what you have to do. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.240 That was bad enough, but her nightmare with Luise continued. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:51.320 After the shoot. Louisa sent Harra some edited photos from 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.360 their shoot that he plans on submitting some magazines like Playboy, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.400 and that hera camposed on social media, but she can't 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.040 access the photos. The file transfer he sent doesn't work 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:02.360 for her. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.880 Hello, I can't access the images. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.040 Okay, you're gonna make me work twice. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.280 It seems like Louise spots an opportunity. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:18.120 I want you in the top so let's just start maybe. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.000 This starts a text message exchange between HERA and Luise. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.800 Just to warn you, it goes into some pretty explicit territory. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.680 Both their messages are read by actors. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.760 I want you select your coller. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.080 Louise tells Harrah she can choose her cover shots, but 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:36.720 there's nothing for her to select from. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.520 I've not received any pictures. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:46.480 And then send me some super naughty I'm hard already. Hello. 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.760 I just remember being sat there, like up at the 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:54.920 breakfast bar, a phone in hand, panicking like, oh my god. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.120 To get her photos. Louise wants hera to send him 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:04.079 sexually explicit content. Her heart is sinking. She's already paid 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.360 for the shoot where she says he pressured her into 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.960 an open leg pose, and now he wants her to 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.840 send him explicit photos. But she knows if she doesn't agree, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.800 and she could lose her photos altogether, waste all that money. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.200 There are so many other models whose photos Louise could 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:21.120 submit to Playboy. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.160 I'm still kind of having to in a way keep 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.600 him sweet, and i didn't want to keep him sweet. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.440 But at the same time, I've got something hanging in 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.599 the balance here, the very thought of actually speaking to 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.679 him or messaging him make me feel physically sick. At 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.480 that point, it was a lose lose situation for me. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.120 This is kind of how I felt. I felt like 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:42.520 I was genuinely trapped. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.920 Harrah pauses for a second, unsure what to do. She 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.840 might be able to buy herself some time if she 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.000 makes it seem like she's going to send Louise what 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.319 he wants, so she types out a reply, I have a. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.840 Very naughty video for you. Have you resent the images? 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.640 His reply is immediate, I'm doing now. While hera waits, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.880 his demands continue. I'm never coming more explicit. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.400 I want came looking at you. I want to see 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.720 you naughty horny. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.000 Harrah's phone is buzzing in her hand, inches away from 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.280 where her kids are finishing off their dinner. Sausages, broccoli, 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.040 and ketch up are congealing on their plates. Maybe if 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.160 she sends a few emojis, he'll leave off. But before 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.400 she can catch a breath, she gets another message, and 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:30.319 this one gets to her. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.080 You're extremely shy. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.000 Shy. It's the same word Luis used to describe her 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.160 on the chute, the language she says he used to 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.320 push her into shooting open leg can you remember how 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:45.080 that made you feel? 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.400 Yeah, like I wasn't good enough and that I was 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.080 going to fail in the industry. Then I felt like 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.400 I had to prove that to him, that I'm not shy. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.360 Sure me, I've not received any pictures. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.160 With her chest tight. Hearrah gives in. She sends Luis 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:09.600 a sexy video of her in the shower. Now stay 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.360 with me, because I understand some of you might lose 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.880 sympathy for her at this point. If she's willing to 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.160 share explicit content with a guy she's already had a 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.959 traumatic photo shoot with, you might think she's the one 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.120 at fault. But when you think about it, how much 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:24.400 choice did hera really have. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.800 I was sending him things because he had these images 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:33.000 of me, So I just complied and did as I 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.880 was told, just to make it like an easier process. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:37.959 If I just do it, it will speed things up. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.680 Just get me my pictures and that will be the 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:40.160 end of it. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.120 Finally he sends her the pictures. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.920 I was like, you look really good, and this is 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:45.840 what's going to go in the magazine. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.920 We have to hurry up, like right now, she opens 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:48.800 the file transfer. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:50.120 I was like, oh my. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.520 Gosh, because I hated them, absolutely hated them. My stomach 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.960 was a really huge thing for me. I felt quite 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.079 self conscious, and that's something that I wanted a bit 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:00.880 of control over. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.520 This is her big shot, and Louise wants to submit 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:09.720 photos that she hates. She quickly messages him suggesting other options, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.000 but less than a minute passes before the next demand. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.720 Send me baby, I can't wait any longer, lolle take 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.680 some from me. Take one photo for me. I'm gonna 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:23.880 take care of your cover. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.040 Louise continued to send her a graphically sexual messages. There's 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.520 too many for us to include them all. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.480 It made me feel so angry. I can't even really 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.120 describe what it felt like. But it's just all these 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.040 emotions that happen at once. You've got the obviously, the anger, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.480 you want to cry, and it's really really difficult to 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:44.800 deal with. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.439 After HERA sends Louise some more explicit content, he tells 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.880 her that one of her photos has been selected for 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.120 the cover of a magazine. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.840 The cover is yours, hope that you send me after 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.120 they saying you're designed too. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.160 But when Louise sends the mock up of the cover, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.720 it's not for Playboy. It's a magazine that Herah's never 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:12.840 heard of called Bikini Plus. This is so far from 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.960 what Hera had hoped for, But she's got no fight 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.000 left in her. She just wants this to stop, so 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.040 she pretends. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.840 I love it me too. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.040 A few days later, Luise gets in touch again. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.040 I have some update your Govit goes out this week. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.199 Wow, that's amazing. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:40.559 Yes, super cool. Maybe, by the way, can you send 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:46.120 me some more more what Sylphie's I'm not like the 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.040 ones you send me. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.800 You have enough explicit images of me from the shoe. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:54.280 I know. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.280 All of this harassment is coming on top of the 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.560 fact that you have paid him for this shoe, You've 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.959 paid him for a service, and he is then withholding 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.839 those photos that you've paid for. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:06.520 Yeah. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.280 I was pissed off, super pissed off, Like I was 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.240 putting a lot on the line. I was new to 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.240 the industry. I've got two children. You know. This was 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.839 kind of like make or break for me. It's your 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.200 dignity as well, and I felt like I lost that 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:21.920 as well as everything else. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:24.200 Hair's done. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.960 I'm not sending anything of me to you just for 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.120 a publication. I'll happily go without. I don't want to 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:36.240 send any photos. Please stop asking again. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.400 The messages stop, but the feeling remains. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.480 I felt completely taking the piss up and violated. Actually 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.680 I actually felt dirty, really dirty. I didn't have anything left, 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.160 like genuinely I didn't. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.600 When Harah found Emily, who I spoke with in the 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.160 last episode, she learned she wasn't alone. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.920 Emily told me what had happened when she turned up. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:01.320 To the shoot. 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.760 Oh creep, absolute creep paver, and then we were like, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.640 should we message some other people? And that day I 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:15.000 think we messaged about seventy people. We'd gone back through 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.560 his Instagram, messaged anyone that's recently shot with him over 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.080 here that he could have done it too. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.400 And that is how they met Kiki. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:27.080 J Emily messaged about her and I just burst out tears. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.240 On the phone. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.160 Ever since I was younger, I always wanted to become 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.520 a model. I really wanted to be a playerboy mo 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:55.760 doll like. It was my goal. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.520 It was my dream. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.680 I had to play a boy bedroom everything. This is 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.400 key kij She's a model from Newcastle in the northeast 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:09.400 of England. By the time I got in touch with her. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.560 I'd heard quite a few of the women's accounts of 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.160 their shoots with Louise, and I was familiar with his 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:18.280 m O. I was expecting sleeves level pushing and harassment, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:23.680 but Kiki's account shocked me. She was one of the 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.600 women who shot with Louise when he came to the 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.840 UK in summer twenty twenty, and her testimony is the 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:36.560 worst I've heard from that short trip. What you're about 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.120 to hear Akiki's recollections of that day. Her testimony is 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.800 about three and a half minutes long and contains graphic 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.480 descriptions of alleged sexual assault, so please take care when listening. 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.320 On the day of her appointment with Luis, Kiki made 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.600 the six hour journey to London with a friend. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.200 We've drove down from Newcastle for the shoote Lewis was 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.400 sitting there with lords of Clear Boy magazines and asked 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.720 her for want at Danny Food drink and he had 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.400 vodka and we started just finishing off getting ready, both 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.000 together in the room upstairs. I shot solo with him 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:13.520 and my friend was downstairs. Everything was fine. He'd help 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.920 us with my cloven and stuff like that. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.560 After a while Keiki says Luis's behavior started to change 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.720 and he became more physical with her. By the way, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.520 Keiki's accents from Newcastle, so for those of you outside 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.959 the UK, she uses the plural us when she's actually 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.240 talking about the singular me. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.639 He was like being more inappropriate or baby, I really 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.000 like you, really like you. God, I'm obsessed with your body. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.600 I just want to touch it. And I was like right, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.120 And as I was going out, he pulled us back 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.800 and was trying to kiss us, touching hers poll his 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:53.560 pants down. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.800 Keiki says, she tries to stop him. 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.359 I was traumatized or was shocked and say, what you doing, Louis? 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.080 He say, don't you want to make me happy? Don't 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:02.840 you want to spoil me? 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:03.200 Baby? 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.439 Since I'm spoiling you, I'm going to help you get 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.680 where you want to go, and started like really and 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.480 all of the things, and I just go out and teas. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.920 I says, yes, that's what I want, but not if 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.320 you're expecting me to do something and return for it. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.159 This is never, never the deal, Nothing was ever a 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:20.640 great on that circumstance. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.000 I do modeling and model and nonie and. 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.080 He was still trying to kiss us, touching us, trying 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:33.280 to feel my boobs and stuff, and he started trying 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.560 to pull my head down to his cock to suck it, 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.240 like force my head down, and. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:39.200 I kept pulling back. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.359 He went, do you you're really not going to please me, baby, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.440 that sort of thing I want normous. I really don't 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.080 want to us as you can tell, says, I'm really upset. 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:48.800 I just want to go downstairs now. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.360 All Keiki wanted to do was leave, but she says 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:54.520 Luise wouldn't let her go. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:55.800 He carried on. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.399 Like just touching us or trying to like pull his 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.000 back to says and stuff. And at the same time 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.879 he was wunk and he's cot with his hand. And 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.240 then she just calmed everywhere and was like, right, okay, 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:10.439 we're gonna get your friend now. 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.240 Keiki says she was immensely distressed after the sheet. She 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.439 was depressed, turning to drink and drugs in a bid 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:30.680 to forget. That was until Emily got in touch. 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.639 Emily messaged about it, and she asked me about it 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.040 and wrung its and I just burst. 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.639 Out the tears on the phone. She's went, that's not normal, 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:42.600 but it's. 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:43.880 Really not and I'm so sorry. 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:44.760 It's happened here. 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.360 She says, there's plenty of the girls I've been speaking 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:49.680 of that has happened. 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.159 And we'll want to do something about it. 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:54.720 So that was music to my ears. 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.320 If you felt like you could report people to the police. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.159 I want it to go to the police, and the 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:08.240 people just say as well, they'll just make you out 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:09.440 to be the other way around you. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.280 You'll be the one that's frowned upon. You'll be the 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:12.359 one that looks like a slag. 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.399 You're going to ruin your image, so I'm supposed to 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.000 just keep your mouth shut and get on mother. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:21.240 Basically, you'll be the one that's frowned upon, so it's 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.359 best to keep your mouth shut. This attitude comes up 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.600 again and again when the women tell me about their 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.639 experiences and explain why they didn't go to the police, 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.399 no matter how much they wanted to stop Luis and 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.199 to make sure this never happened to another model, they 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.640 just didn't think they'd be taken seriously. Here's Errah. 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.040 I remember a model saying to me, it's all part 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.960 of the industry. So of course that makes you feel great, 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.800 don't it. If you're going to go to the police 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.800 and tell them that you do only fans or you 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.960 do glamour photography. It's like, well, you're asking for it. 0:20:58.440 --> 0:20:59.760 That is how people see it. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.520 Not all glamor models identify as sex workers. Some of 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.280 the models in this podcast don't see themselves that way either, 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.120 but society at large sees them that way, and there's 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.480 a stigma that comes with that. The thing is whether 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.639 you're a sex worker or not. Sexual assault convictions are 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:22.040 staggeringly low. In twenty twenty three in England and Wales, 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.680 only two point four percent of reported rape cases led 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.240 to a charge, so the women turned to each other. 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.399 They didn't think they'd get justice through the legal system, 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:39.040 so they went vigilante. And there was one place where 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:44.120 this group of women would be heard Instagram. Between them, 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:48.080 they had over three hundred thousand followers, and if they 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.840 all called Luis out, they could save other women from 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.840 suffering the same fate. So they leap into action, planning 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.520 their next move. In the WhatsApp group, they tried to 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.400 make sure their evidence is walter to tight. 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.320 Screenshot everything. Now I'm going to download the conversations as well. 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.560 In the FBI, it's mad they hype each other up. 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.840 If our voices mean that we can at least just 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.399 let people know that they're not alone. I want that 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.720 I'm here to support all of you girls. Obviously, the 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.119 more people that speak out the better. But I mean, 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.800