1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Novel. Hey listeners, this is Ellie Flynn. Before we get started, 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that this episode 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: contains swearing, explicit sexual language, and claims of sexual abuse. 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: It's also a story of female empowerment and camaraderie thanks 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: to the women who have shared their stories with us. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: We contacted the photographer mentioned in this podcast multiple times 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: for comment, but we never heard back. He has not 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: been charged with any crimes and is presumed innocent under 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: the law. We also contacted Playboy USA. They state that 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: they have asked their licensees to blacklist the photographer mentioned 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: in this series and that they prohibit pay to play, 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: which you'll hear more about later in the series. Our 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: research into his association to Playboy and their statement will 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: be detailed in episode four of this series. Oh and 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: one more thing. Some of the voice notes you'll hear 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: in this episode are voiced by actors. It's September twenty twenty, 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: just days since the WhatsApp group was created, and Emily's 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: phone is already blowing up. 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: Girls. 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm just having my hair done and I've just come 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: to this group and there's like two hundred and sixty 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: nine messages. 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: Help girls, I'm loving this group. 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 5: You're cracking me up here. 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: I'll make light of this situation because I'm traumatized. 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: So ow. 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 5: My dog's just dropped a bone on my leg, so. 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: You know, I'm exactly the same, Emily. I laugh in 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: the most darkest situations. 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: The group was established as a space for the models 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: to share their claims of abuse and harassment by photographer 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Luis Gomez. In just days, the group had about a 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: dozen members, all models who'd shot with Luise on his 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: brief UK tour. Messages, voice notes and screenshots were piling 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: up and they were all full of support. 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: Em Glad you said that. 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 6: You wouldn't have known what to do because I went. 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Alone and he was saying ex the same things to. 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: Me as he was you. 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: Oh, that's really shit. 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: That's fucking terrible, fucking hell. 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: It makes you wonders, isn't it. 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 4: If your friends weren't there, what would you have actually done. 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: The women found their stories were really similar. Nobody's would 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: tell you that shooting with him could mean amazing things 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: for your career, that he'd take you right to the 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: top and make you a start. 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: You feel like you've made it in the modeling world. 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: Especially like Playboy. 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll go to America and I'll be really big 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: and famous, and I'll be rich and I'll have a yacht. 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: But then the shoot itself wouldn't be as glamorous as 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Louis had made out. It would take place in a 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: shitty hotel room or airbnb, the. 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: People smoking, weeding them on next door. 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 7: It was horrible, horrible, and I'm thinking, why are we 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 7: shooting in a hotel? I would have thought publications had studios. 58 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: And during the shoot he'd start to pressure you. 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: I was like, that's enough, and he said no. 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: I just thought I've got to keep this guy happy. 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: I thought I was going. 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: To get a full on rate and there was nobody there. 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: It was awful. 64 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: The women all shared the same feelings of despair afterwards. 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: The whole experience was just disheartening, degrading. 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was Honestly, it's traumatic. I quit 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: my job after. I'm heartbroken, to be completely honest. 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: The women fell into two categories. Either they were just 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: starting out in glamour, green and naive, or the opposite, 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: on the brink of leaving it all behind and ready 71 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: to risk everything for one last shot at their Playboy dream, 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: But all of them had their careers on the line, 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: and it seemed like Luis knew that and exploited it. 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 8: I felt like everything was riding on that poot issue. 75 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 8: He kind of gets you sucked in with how amazing 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 8: he is. I'm going to do this, so I'm going 77 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 8: to do that, and then it's nothing like that. 78 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: But at least the women now knew they weren't alone, 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and they wanted to make sure Luis Gomez could never 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: behave like this again. It wasn't going to be easy. 81 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: These were women without the influence or money that Luise 82 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: seemed to have. They were glamor models and sex workers, 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: some of the most overlooked and judged women in society. 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: But they were ready to shout. 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 5: We've all got each other to, you know, support each other. 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Our case is going to be solid. We've got so 87 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: much evidence and. 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 9: So listening to people have their lives debrailed by him. 89 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: I'm Ellie Flynn and from the team at Novel. This 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: is the Bunny Trap, Episode two. The receipts. 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: H M, Hi. 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 10: Alive, how are you? 93 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: I've driven to the English countryside on a rainy Friday 94 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: to meet another member of the WhatsApp group. She's a 95 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: former model who goes by the name of Herah. 96 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Thank You. 97 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: She's warm and friendly and immediately welcomes me into her 98 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: home with a cup of tea. Harrah's living room is 99 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: full of personality. It's got black and white striped walls 100 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: that she painted herself, and her own artworks hang everywhere. 101 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: It's very different from the CD hotel room where she 102 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: met Louise Gomez in August twenty twenty. Back then, Hera 103 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: was just beginning her modeling career. She was out of 104 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: work during the pandemic, and with two kids to raise, 105 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: she turned her OnlyFans to help make ends meet. So 106 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: when Louis Gomez wanted to shoot with her, she saw 107 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: an opportunity for a better life. After all, he had 108 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: shot for Playboy. It would come at a cost, though 109 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Louise wanted six hundred pounds for the shoot. It was 110 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: a lot of money for an out of work single mum, 111 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: but Hera wanted to get noticed by Playboy. That's how 112 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: she justified the cost of the shoot and the cost 113 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: of getting ready. How much moneaged to think you spent 114 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: in preparation beforehand? 115 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: Oh gosh. 116 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 4: She included the boathowk's lips and then obviously there's the clothes, 117 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: about six to seven hundred pounds. 118 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: Harra says she told Louise that she wanted to do 119 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: topless only, but despite taking a friend with her to 120 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: the shoot, she says, Louise pushed her levels. 121 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: It escalated really really quickly. Within about ten minutes. I 122 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: had everything off with my legs open, which is not 123 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 4: what I wanted. 124 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: And how did that happen? What kind of things was 125 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: he saying? 126 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: Basically telling me that I was too shy and that 127 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: everyone else does it, so why aren't you doing it? 128 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: You know, if you want to be in Playboy, this 129 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: is what you have to do. 130 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: That was bad enough, but her nightmare with Luise continued. 131 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: After the shoot. Louisa sent Harra some edited photos from 132 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: their shoot that he plans on submitting some magazines like Playboy, 133 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: and that hera camposed on social media, but she can't 134 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: access the photos. The file transfer he sent doesn't work 135 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: for her. 136 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: Hello, I can't access the images. 137 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 6: Okay, you're gonna make me work twice. 138 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: It seems like Louise spots an opportunity. 139 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 6: I want you in the top so let's just start maybe. 140 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: This starts a text message exchange between HERA and Luise. 141 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Just to warn you, it goes into some pretty explicit territory. 142 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Both their messages are read by actors. 143 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: I want you select your coller. 144 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Louise tells Harrah she can choose her cover shots, but 145 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing for her to select from. 146 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: I've not received any pictures. 147 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 6: And then send me some super naughty I'm hard already. Hello. 148 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: I just remember being sat there, like up at the 149 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: breakfast bar, a phone in hand, panicking like, oh my god. 150 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: To get her photos. Louise wants hera to send him 151 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: sexually explicit content. Her heart is sinking. She's already paid 152 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: for the shoot where she says he pressured her into 153 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: an open leg pose, and now he wants her to 154 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: send him explicit photos. But she knows if she doesn't agree, 155 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: and she could lose her photos altogether, waste all that money. 156 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: There are so many other models whose photos Louise could 157 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: submit to Playboy. 158 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm still kind of having to in a way keep 159 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: him sweet, and i didn't want to keep him sweet. 160 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I've got something hanging in 161 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 4: the balance here, the very thought of actually speaking to 162 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 4: him or messaging him make me feel physically sick. At 163 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: that point, it was a lose lose situation for me. 164 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: This is kind of how I felt. I felt like 165 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: I was genuinely trapped. 166 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Harrah pauses for a second, unsure what to do. She 167 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: might be able to buy herself some time if she 168 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: makes it seem like she's going to send Louise what 169 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: he wants, so she types out a reply, I have a. 170 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Very naughty video for you. Have you resent the images? 171 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: His reply is immediate, I'm doing now. While hera waits, 172 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: his demands continue. I'm never coming more explicit. 173 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 6: I want came looking at you. I want to see 174 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 6: you naughty horny. 175 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Harrah's phone is buzzing in her hand, inches away from 176 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: where her kids are finishing off their dinner. Sausages, broccoli, 177 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: and ketch up are congealing on their plates. Maybe if 178 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: she sends a few emojis, he'll leave off. But before 179 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: she can catch a breath, she gets another message, and 180 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: this one gets to her. 181 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 6: You're extremely shy. 182 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Shy. It's the same word Luis used to describe her 183 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: on the chute, the language she says he used to 184 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: push her into shooting open leg can you remember how 185 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: that made you feel? 186 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I wasn't good enough and that I was 187 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: going to fail in the industry. Then I felt like 188 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: I had to prove that to him, that I'm not shy. 189 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: Sure me, I've not received any pictures. 190 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: With her chest tight. Hearrah gives in. She sends Luis 191 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: a sexy video of her in the shower. Now stay 192 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: with me, because I understand some of you might lose 193 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: sympathy for her at this point. If she's willing to 194 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: share explicit content with a guy she's already had a 195 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: traumatic photo shoot with, you might think she's the one 196 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: at fault. But when you think about it, how much 197 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: choice did hera really have. 198 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: I was sending him things because he had these images 199 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: of me, So I just complied and did as I 200 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: was told, just to make it like an easier process. 201 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 4: If I just do it, it will speed things up. 202 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 4: Just get me my pictures and that will be the 203 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: end of it. 204 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Finally he sends her the pictures. 205 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: I was like, you look really good, and this is 206 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: what's going to go in the magazine. 207 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: We have to hurry up, like right now, she opens 208 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: the file transfer. 209 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 6: I was like, oh my. 210 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: Gosh, because I hated them, absolutely hated them. My stomach 211 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: was a really huge thing for me. I felt quite 212 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 4: self conscious, and that's something that I wanted a bit 213 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: of control over. 214 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: This is her big shot, and Louise wants to submit 215 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: photos that she hates. She quickly messages him suggesting other options, 216 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: but less than a minute passes before the next demand. 217 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 6: Send me baby, I can't wait any longer, lolle take 218 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 6: some from me. Take one photo for me. I'm gonna 219 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 6: take care of your cover. 220 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Louise continued to send her a graphically sexual messages. There's 221 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: too many for us to include them all. 222 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: It made me feel so angry. I can't even really 223 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: describe what it felt like. But it's just all these 224 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: emotions that happen at once. You've got the obviously, the anger, 225 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: you want to cry, and it's really really difficult to 226 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: deal with. 227 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: After HERA sends Louise some more explicit content, he tells 228 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: her that one of her photos has been selected for 229 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: the cover of a magazine. 230 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 6: The cover is yours, hope that you send me after 231 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 6: they saying you're designed too. 232 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: But when Louise sends the mock up of the cover, 233 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: it's not for Playboy. It's a magazine that Herah's never 234 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: heard of called Bikini Plus. This is so far from 235 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: what Hera had hoped for, But she's got no fight 236 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: left in her. She just wants this to stop, so 237 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: she pretends. 238 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 6: I love it me too. 239 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: A few days later, Luise gets in touch again. 240 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 6: I have some update your Govit goes out this week. 241 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. 242 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 6: Yes, super cool. Maybe, by the way, can you send 243 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 6: me some more more what Sylphie's I'm not like the 244 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 6: ones you send me. 245 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 7: You have enough explicit images of me from the shoe. 246 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 6: I know. 247 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: All of this harassment is coming on top of the 248 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: fact that you have paid him for this shoe, You've 249 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: paid him for a service, and he is then withholding 250 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: those photos that you've paid for. 251 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 252 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: I was pissed off, super pissed off, Like I was 253 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: putting a lot on the line. I was new to 254 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: the industry. I've got two children. You know. This was 255 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 4: kind of like make or break for me. It's your 256 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: dignity as well, and I felt like I lost that 257 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: as well as everything else. 258 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: Hair's done. 259 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 7: I'm not sending anything of me to you just for 260 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 7: a publication. I'll happily go without. I don't want to 261 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 7: send any photos. Please stop asking again. 262 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: The messages stop, but the feeling remains. 263 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: I felt completely taking the piss up and violated. Actually 264 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: I actually felt dirty, really dirty. I didn't have anything left, 265 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: like genuinely I didn't. 266 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: When Harah found Emily, who I spoke with in the 267 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: last episode, she learned she wasn't alone. 268 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: Emily told me what had happened when she turned up. 269 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 9: To the shoot. 270 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: Oh creep, absolute creep paver, and then we were like, 271 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: should we message some other people? And that day I 272 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: think we messaged about seventy people. We'd gone back through 273 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: his Instagram, messaged anyone that's recently shot with him over 274 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: here that he could have done it too. 275 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: And that is how they met Kiki. 276 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 10: J Emily messaged about her and I just burst out tears. 277 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: On the phone. 278 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 10: Ever since I was younger, I always wanted to become 279 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 10: a model. I really wanted to be a playerboy mo 280 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 10: doll like. It was my goal. 281 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: It was my dream. 282 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: I had to play a boy bedroom everything. This is 283 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: key kij She's a model from Newcastle in the northeast 284 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: of England. By the time I got in touch with her. 285 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: I'd heard quite a few of the women's accounts of 286 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: their shoots with Louise, and I was familiar with his 287 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: m O. I was expecting sleeves level pushing and harassment, 288 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: but Kiki's account shocked me. She was one of the 289 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: women who shot with Louise when he came to the 290 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: UK in summer twenty twenty, and her testimony is the 291 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: worst I've heard from that short trip. What you're about 292 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: to hear Akiki's recollections of that day. Her testimony is 293 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: about three and a half minutes long and contains graphic 294 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: descriptions of alleged sexual assault, so please take care when listening. 295 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: On the day of her appointment with Luis, Kiki made 296 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: the six hour journey to London with a friend. 297 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 10: We've drove down from Newcastle for the shoote Lewis was 298 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 10: sitting there with lords of Clear Boy magazines and asked 299 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 10: her for want at Danny Food drink and he had 300 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 10: vodka and we started just finishing off getting ready, both 301 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 10: together in the room upstairs. I shot solo with him 302 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 10: and my friend was downstairs. Everything was fine. He'd help 303 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 10: us with my cloven and stuff like that. 304 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: After a while Keiki says Luis's behavior started to change 305 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: and he became more physical with her. By the way, 306 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: Keiki's accents from Newcastle, so for those of you outside 307 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: the UK, she uses the plural us when she's actually 308 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: talking about the singular me. 309 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 10: He was like being more inappropriate or baby, I really 310 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 10: like you, really like you. God, I'm obsessed with your body. 311 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 10: I just want to touch it. And I was like right, 312 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 10: And as I was going out, he pulled us back 313 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 10: and was trying to kiss us, touching hers poll his 314 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 10: pants down. 315 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Keiki says, she tries to stop him. 316 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 10: I was traumatized or was shocked and say, what you doing, Louis? 317 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 10: He say, don't you want to make me happy? Don't 318 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 10: you want to spoil me? 319 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: Baby? 320 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 10: Since I'm spoiling you, I'm going to help you get 321 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 10: where you want to go, and started like really and 322 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 10: all of the things, and I just go out and teas. 323 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 10: I says, yes, that's what I want, but not if 324 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 10: you're expecting me to do something and return for it. 325 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 10: This is never, never the deal, Nothing was ever a 326 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 10: great on that circumstance. 327 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: I do modeling and model and nonie and. 328 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 10: He was still trying to kiss us, touching us, trying 329 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 10: to feel my boobs and stuff, and he started trying 330 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 10: to pull my head down to his cock to suck it, 331 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 10: like force my head down, and. 332 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 5: I kept pulling back. 333 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 10: He went, do you you're really not going to please me, baby, 334 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 10: that sort of thing I want normous. I really don't 335 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 10: want to us as you can tell, says, I'm really upset. 336 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: I just want to go downstairs now. 337 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: All Keiki wanted to do was leave, but she says 338 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: Luise wouldn't let her go. 339 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 5: He carried on. 340 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 10: Like just touching us or trying to like pull his 341 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 10: back to says and stuff. And at the same time 342 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 10: he was wunk and he's cot with his hand. And 343 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 10: then she just calmed everywhere and was like, right, okay, 344 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 10: we're gonna get your friend now. 345 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Keiki says she was immensely distressed after the sheet. She 346 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: was depressed, turning to drink and drugs in a bid 347 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: to forget. That was until Emily got in touch. 348 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 10: Emily messaged about it, and she asked me about it 349 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 10: and wrung its and I just burst. 350 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: Out the tears on the phone. She's went, that's not normal, 351 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: but it's. 352 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 10: Really not and I'm so sorry. 353 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: It's happened here. 354 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 4: She says, there's plenty of the girls I've been speaking 355 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 4: of that has happened. 356 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 5: And we'll want to do something about it. 357 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 10: So that was music to my ears. 358 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: If you felt like you could report people to the police. 359 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 10: I want it to go to the police, and the 360 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 10: people just say as well, they'll just make you out 361 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 10: to be the other way around you. 362 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: You'll be the one that's frowned upon. You'll be the 363 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 5: one that looks like a slag. 364 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 10: You're going to ruin your image, so I'm supposed to 365 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 10: just keep your mouth shut and get on mother. 366 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: Basically, you'll be the one that's frowned upon, so it's 367 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: best to keep your mouth shut. This attitude comes up 368 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: again and again when the women tell me about their 369 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: experiences and explain why they didn't go to the police, 370 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: no matter how much they wanted to stop Luis and 371 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: to make sure this never happened to another model, they 372 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: just didn't think they'd be taken seriously. Here's Errah. 373 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: I remember a model saying to me, it's all part 374 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: of the industry. So of course that makes you feel great, 375 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: don't it. If you're going to go to the police 376 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: and tell them that you do only fans or you 377 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: do glamour photography. It's like, well, you're asking for it. 378 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: That is how people see it. 379 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Not all glamor models identify as sex workers. Some of 380 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: the models in this podcast don't see themselves that way either, 381 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: but society at large sees them that way, and there's 382 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: a stigma that comes with that. The thing is whether 383 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: you're a sex worker or not. Sexual assault convictions are 384 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: staggeringly low. In twenty twenty three in England and Wales, 385 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: only two point four percent of reported rape cases led 386 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: to a charge, so the women turned to each other. 387 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: They didn't think they'd get justice through the legal system, 388 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: so they went vigilante. And there was one place where 389 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: this group of women would be heard Instagram. Between them, 390 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: they had over three hundred thousand followers, and if they 391 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: all called Luis out, they could save other women from 392 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: suffering the same fate. So they leap into action, planning 393 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: their next move. In the WhatsApp group, they tried to 394 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: make sure their evidence is walter to tight. 395 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: Screenshot everything. Now I'm going to download the conversations as well. 396 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: In the FBI, it's mad they hype each other up. 397 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: If our voices mean that we can at least just 398 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: let people know that they're not alone. I want that 399 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm here to support all of you girls. Obviously, the 400 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: more people that speak out the better. But I mean, 401 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: I think we've got a pretty strong case with all 402 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: of us in here anyway. 403 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: But the group is running out of time. Luis is 404 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: coming back to the UK soon. 405 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: He's asked me to shoot again in November and I've 406 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: not responded. 407 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: That means more shoots, more vulnerable women. They need to 408 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: stop him now. 409 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 5: That's why we want to get this done sooner. 410 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: Imagine those poor girls up there that he's maybe assaulted. 411 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: Shall we do At. 412 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 7: Seven o'clock announcement when everyone's finished work. 413 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: The models tease the reveal on their accounts. Something big 414 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: is on the way. 415 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: And then we tag each other's profiles all of our stories. Look, 416 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: we're going to expose somebody. Make sure you're watching. 417 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: At seven pm on the twenty fifth of October twenty twenty, 418 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: the model's press send in a series of posts on 419 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: hot pink or black backgrounds with blown up text, they 420 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: share their stories. 421 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 7: Harah writes, as this guy insists on being credited for 422 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 7: his work, I'd like to take this opportunity to call 423 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 7: out this photographer, Louise Gomez. I'm sorry if what I'm 424 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 7: posting may seem a little inappropriate. 425 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: However, I'm more. 426 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 7: Than happy to put my dignity on the line if 427 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 7: it means save in someone else's. Nothing can make me 428 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 7: feel more shameful than how I felt in those three hours, 429 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 7: not a single thing. 430 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: Harah posts a photograph that her friend secretly captured on 431 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: the shoot with Luise. It shows her on all fours 432 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: naked on the floor with Louise shooting her from behind. 433 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: She's picked late so that you can't see her intimate areas. 434 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: She's overlaid the image with the text that reads this was. 435 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: A topless only shoot. 436 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 7: Clearly, Thankfully I had a friend that was clever enough 437 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 7: to gather evidence while seeing me being level pushed. I 438 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 7: remember thinking I wish this was all over in this exact. 439 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: Moment, the models had come out swinging. 440 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: We posted everything, and it just blew up from there. 441 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: I've just put so many screenshots from my WhatsApp chat 442 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: and my Instagram chat with him on my story. 443 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: I have just shared screenshots on my Instagram and my 444 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: Facebook Star is You Girls? 445 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: And more than welcome to share whatever is posted from me. 446 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: When you like a match and you drop it on 447 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: something flammable, you don't realize how quickly that is gonna 448 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: catch and just spiral. 449 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: It got spread around like wildfire. 450 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 3: Girls that we had messaged before and they'd said, oh, 451 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it or I don't 452 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: want to get involved. They changed their tune a little 453 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: bit because they saw how many girls were coming forward 454 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: and they thought, well, do you know what, I'm not 455 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: the only one. 456 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 5: She feels like she's probably wants to come forward. 457 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: She sent me private messages like a paragraphs upon paragraphs 458 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: like really bad. 459 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: Even if they don't want to tell me anything, I 460 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 4: just want them to know that if they ever. 461 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Did that, we're there for them. 462 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 4: There were just so many people like messaging and their 463 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: experiences were horrific, really bad. 464 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: I've been aware of what's gone on for a long time. 465 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: I've worked with a photographer and there are so many 466 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: girls and the worst thing is about it. 467 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: He's going to still keep getting away with it unless 468 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: people report them. 469 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: I don't think we anticipated how quickly it was going 470 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: to take off. 471 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 5: We were tagging Louise. It was boom tag. You're there. 472 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 5: You can't hide. Everybody knows what you're at is. Louise 473 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 5: went absolutely mental. 474 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: Louise texted Emily this is a bit of their text exchange. 475 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 6: Wow, thanks a lot. I don't know why you are 476 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 6: doing these after all the HILP I gave the help. 477 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 5: You're a fucking predator. 478 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 6: It is not fair what you're doing and you're not. 479 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 7: Are you mad? 480 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: Honestly, just go away. He didn't apologize for what he'd done. 481 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: He didn't seem to think that he'd done anything wrong. 482 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: We're not going to just do this to destroy somebody's career. 483 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 3: You've been caught red handed. 484 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: Only hours after their big Instagram call out, the models 485 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: realized something big has happened. 486 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: He's not blocked girls, he's deleted his account. 487 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: The women had finally got what they wanted. Luise was gone. 488 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: When the models went public, it felt like a real moment. 489 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: But then, bubbling up beside the support, they started getting 490 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: very different messages. 491 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 5: You would have men commenting, sending DMS saying you do 492 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 5: only fans. 493 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 6: You deserve to be treated like this. 494 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: You bring this on yourself. You sold pictures of yourself 495 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: for a living, So what do you expect. 496 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 6: You've learned your lesson the hard way, so from now on, 497 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 6: don't do it. 498 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: People were saying, you're just doing it for social media 499 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: clout and for attention, and I feel like we were 500 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: being blamed. We only had each other and we knew 501 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 3: that we were telling the truth. I broke down in 502 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: tears because it was so hard. When sexual abuse happened. 503 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 3: People don't want. 504 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 5: To hear it. 505 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: They're not interested because it's so real. A lot of 506 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: people victim blame, and that's a very common thing that happens. 507 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: I went off the rails for a bit. The easiest 508 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: thing for me at that time was to use substances 509 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: just to forget everything. 510 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Haro was suffering too. 511 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: In the evenings, I was drinking gin until I'd fallen asleep. 512 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: There was a lot of self destructive behaviors that were going. 513 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: On, and without its leaders, the group fell apart. 514 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: We all started just dropping the ball on communication and 515 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: it would end up being like three or four days 516 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: we wouldn't speak, and then it was a week and 517 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: then I would write in their or herold write in there. 518 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 4: Sorry girls, I've been a little bit absent because and 519 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: that great lately, Sorry. 520 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 5: Girls, I've literally just read this. 521 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: You'd get one reply or two replies, or no replies, 522 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: and it's like I just kind of leave this. 523 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 5: Then everybody just sort of went back to doing their 524 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 5: own thing. 525 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: The models had caused a social media storm, but like 526 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: all storms, it passed, and when the world moved on, 527 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Luis crawled back out of the webwork. 528 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 4: I think he just changed the domain name of his website, 529 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: he started a new Instagram. He just kept popping up everywhere. 530 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: What the fuck? No, that ainn't even funny, is it. 531 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 10: The saddest thing is it's like everybody knows meant Although 532 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 10: because there was so much evidence. 533 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: So much evidence, the women were at rock bottom. They'd 534 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: put their necks on the line to expose the man 535 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: they said was a predator, and nothing had changed. But 536 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: there was one more option to whom it may concern. 537 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm sending this email on behalf of myself and quite 538 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: a few other models about the horrific dealings we've all 539 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: had with a playboy photographer, Luis gai Mez. This is 540 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: the email I told you about, the one the models 541 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: sent to me and twelve international newspapers. As far as 542 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm aware, I'm the only journalist who responded. By twenty twenty, 543 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: thanks to the Me Too movement, it felt like the 544 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: world was finally paying attention to allegations of sexual abuse 545 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: and harassment. But for these women, their claims were falling 546 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: on deaf ears. It seemed as though an invisible line 547 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: had been drawn excluding women in the sex industry. I 548 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: wanted to help change that. 549 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: Guys, I've just heard back from Ellie on sitting my parents. 550 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 5: This is insane news. 551 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely buzzing. 552 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 5: No, that's unbelievable news. 553 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm so buzzed. 554 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 5: I cannot wait for this. 555 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: That was years ago. Louise has never been held accountable, 556 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: but that's about to change. I'm going to try and 557 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: finish the job. Emily, Herra and the rest of the 558 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: model started coming up on the Bunny Trap. We tried 559 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: to figure out who and what we're up against. His 560 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: associations are vital to his reach, and I just remember thinking, 561 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: I got to watch this one. 562 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 10: This is our opportunity to for the first time speak 563 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 10: to someone close with Louise. 564 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 8: Why do I start with Lewis? 565 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's way darker and white, deeper than 566 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: I could they ever imagine. 567 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Thanks to the women who shared their stories with us. 568 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: We contacted Luis Gomez multiple times for comment, but we 569 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: never heard back. He has not been charged with any 570 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: crimes and is presumed innocent under the law. We also 571 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: sought comment from Playboy USA. They declined our request for 572 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: an interview, but you can hear their statement later in 573 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: the series. The Bonnie Trap is produced by Novel. For 574 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio. The show is 575 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: hosted by me Ellie Flynn. You can find me on 576 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: social media by searching my name that's eb l i 577 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: E Fly double n. This season is produced by Eleanor 578 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: Biggs and written by me Ellie Flynn and Eleana Biggs. 579 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: Our assistant producer is Amalia Sortland, with additional production from 580 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: Lee Meyer and Saskia Collette. Additional research by Valeria Rocker. 581 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: The editors are Georgia Moody and Austin Mitchell, our executive 582 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: producers and Max O'Brien and Craig Strachan. Our fact checker 583 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: is Fendall Fulton. Production management from Scherie Houston and Charlotte 584 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: Sound Design, mixing and scoring by Nicholas Alexander and Daniel Kempson. 585 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: Music supervision by Nicholas Alexander, Elena Biggs and Max O'Brien, 586 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: Original music composed and performed by Jake Law, and additional 587 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: production by Nicholas Alexander, Louisa Gersty and Daniel Kempson. The 588 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: series artwork was designed by Christina Lienkole Willard Foxton its 589 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: creative director of Development, Harris. Texts were voiced by Anna Brindle. 590 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: Various other women were voiced by Boo Miller. Luisco Mers 591 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: was played by Juan Solari. 592 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: Novel