WEBVTT - Will I get canceled for saying this?

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<v Speaker 1>The questions are going to get intense or hashtag topics

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm brave enough. I still don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>brave enough to click on a couple of these topics.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the podcast, guys. One of my best buddies.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite guests is back. Your favorite guests too,

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Calcote, Welcome back to the podcast Glad to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode one of three. On this podcast, we

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<v Speaker 1>answer questions as if we're sitting around a campfire. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a question, and then me and Bernie walk it through.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no notes on this table, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything here to look at, and we're going to walk

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<v Speaker 1>through it as if we're hearing it real time. I

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<v Speaker 1>have read some of these questions. Burn I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you we've been talking for like thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>about our own stuff, which is just what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was going to tell you if we hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>done that, I was going to tell you that these

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<v Speaker 1>questions today are pretty intense. It's gonna be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>intense episode. Awesome. And I was gonna I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to break or rule and do something I've never done before.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was going to show you some of these

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<v Speaker 1>questions before we even started the podcast. Okay, but you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do I didn't do that. So we're sticking with

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<v Speaker 1>the rule there is no preparation beforehand, so you're with

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of introduction to you ready for this? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not ready, but you know, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me dive in. Well, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit some things that we we might we might

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<v Speaker 1>go deeper on episode one of three than we typically do.

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<v Speaker 1>So buckle up your seat belts if you're commuting to

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<v Speaker 1>work right now, if you're over the road, truck or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you're doing. However, you listen to this podcast on

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<v Speaker 1>the Monday morning. Thank you for that. There's no there's

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<v Speaker 1>no total easy way into this, but I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>with me. Let me just say real quick for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Angria is like, before we answer any of these questions,

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<v Speaker 1>just know that we do it with the most humility possible.

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<v Speaker 1>We understand that we are just two broken people trying

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<v Speaker 1>to trying our best to abide in God's love and

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<v Speaker 1>accept what we did not earn. And some of these

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<v Speaker 1>views and these answers really represent our experience and our

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of life and of God's word at this moment

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<v Speaker 1>in time, because there has definitely been even recently where

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<v Speaker 1>I have dug deeper into God's word and realized, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it meant this, and it means that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would some in some way change and answer that

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<v Speaker 1>I may give to a podcast listener. So this, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like this moment in time that this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where we feel like God has brought us in

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<v Speaker 1>what He's taught us through his word and through our experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and so please we pray that you receive it with

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<v Speaker 1>that same attitude. I think that was a really eloquent

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<v Speaker 1>way of saying sometimes we're wrong. Yes, sometimes we're wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would never be our intention of what this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is answering your questions to a specific email, Grangersmith

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<v Speaker 1>podcast at gmail dot com. If you have anything, email

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast and I read through them. Now the intensity

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<v Speaker 1>of your questions has raised over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>It started out how do you play guitar? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really gotten to a point where people are

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing the broken state of the world right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and people have people are dealing with some serious issues,

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<v Speaker 1>they're struggling, and they're fine they're trying to find answers

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<v Speaker 1>however they can, and and I feel the way of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the responsibility of that, although I know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the final answer. We're just burning and are

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<v Speaker 1>going to walk through how how we would answer it

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<v Speaker 1>or how we would deal with it if it was

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<v Speaker 1>in our life. So I think Burne's saying the right

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying all the right things that we're not. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not always right, but we will we come with the

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<v Speaker 1>most humble heart. The crazy thing about this is how

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast has become one of the top podcasts and

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<v Speaker 1>all of music genres. And it's just blow my mind

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<v Speaker 1>that with the intensity of the questions that have come in,

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<v Speaker 1>it has raised the popularity of this podcast. So I

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<v Speaker 1>also feel the way of that, and I feel the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the listeners and we love you guys seriously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are awesome. I mean, the the amount of engagement

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<v Speaker 1>that they have and the amount of questions and like

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<v Speaker 1>how specific they are, and the eagerness to listen, and

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the comments back of how much they

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. You tell me the stories about at the

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<v Speaker 1>meet and greets, how they reference the podcast asked that's awesome, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's start with this one. It says I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to stay anonymous. That's how it starts. Well, one

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<v Speaker 1>warning when you when you say this, they anonymous. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't guarantee that Grandeur will not say your name. Just disclaimer.

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<v Speaker 1>Just put that out there. I'm gonna work so hard

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<v Speaker 1>on it has But it says, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the podcast, keep doing great things. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>says I'm in my second trimester of pregnancy. My sister

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband have been trying to get pregnant for

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<v Speaker 1>over a year now, and they've been very angry at

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<v Speaker 1>me and my fiance ever since we told them the

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<v Speaker 1>news that we were pregnant. I've tried to be sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>and sympathetic about their infertility, and they've made it very

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<v Speaker 1>clear that it was important to them that they had

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<v Speaker 1>the first grand beary bey baby in the family parentheses,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't understand why it's so important. Each grand

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<v Speaker 1>baby will be loved just as much as the first,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why they are so upset. They've also said

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty nasty things about me and my fiance and

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<v Speaker 1>have made it clear that they will not support us.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been nothing but kind and apologetic to them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I find their words hurtful. How do I go about

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<v Speaker 1>saving this relationship with my sister while being sensitive about

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<v Speaker 1>their infertility? Or do I push their toxic behavior away

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<v Speaker 1>and do its best for my baby and my fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>I told my twin sister, who was married, that had

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<v Speaker 1>they been the first ones to get pregnant first, they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be as angry because they didn't have a baby

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<v Speaker 1>outside of marriage. Like me, I feel that the problem

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that my fiance and I got pregnant outside of marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>but something deeper that they won't say. Sorry for the

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<v Speaker 1>long email, Thanks for in advance. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>reference to where they were they where Anonymous lives. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have a twin sister married, trying to get pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with infertility, and then the other twin is now pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do we go with the spurns? Where do we

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<v Speaker 1>start with this? Anonymous here does she have a specific

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<v Speaker 1>question that you could read again? That question is twofold.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I go about saving this relationship with my

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<v Speaker 1>sister while being sensitive about their infertility? Or do I

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<v Speaker 1>push their toxic behavior away and do its best for

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<v Speaker 1>my baby and my fiance. M hm, Anonymous, This one

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<v Speaker 1>hits pretty close to home, Grangeuron, I just spent about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour talking about something very similar. Yeah, when do

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<v Speaker 1>you when do you continue to expose yourself to potential

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<v Speaker 1>you know, manipulation or toxic relationship? When do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>preserve and when do you sacker vice for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of reconciliation. It's a great question. Yeah, infertility is is

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<v Speaker 1>no joke, and it it hurts, It hurts, It hurts families.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a there's a certain level when infertility, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they admit it or not, makes the woman feel lesser

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<v Speaker 1>of a woman. There is a there is a innate

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<v Speaker 1>desire and a woman to to to pro create and

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<v Speaker 1>to be useful her make her body useful in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that it's it's created to be used.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it doesn't work that way, then that I

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<v Speaker 1>think they feel, Like I said, whether they admitted or not,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a there's an idea that that an evil

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<v Speaker 1>idea that creeps into their head that they are lesser

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<v Speaker 1>of a woman. I first want to say, Anonymous, I

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<v Speaker 1>do Burnie and I both agree that it's very, very

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<v Speaker 1>important that you do get married that that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the issue with this question. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the issue with your twin sister. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>would know that. I think that would be very clear.

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<v Speaker 1>She would say you should be married. So, although I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's part of your problem, on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of your question, I do think it's very important that

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<v Speaker 1>you hustle this marriage along, that you don't did the wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you don't sit on this engagement for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time and make some big, extravagant, expensive many multiple

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<v Speaker 1>guests make a big deal out of it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that will also hurt the relationship with their sister. But

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<v Speaker 1>for many other reasons, I think you rush this process along.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally believe, and I've said it before on here,

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<v Speaker 1>that I think in this culture we kind of idolize

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding ceremony more than it should be, when what

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<v Speaker 1>it represents is far greater than how you present it

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<v Speaker 1>in one day, and the dress and the flowers and

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<v Speaker 1>the band and the guests and the food and the

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<v Speaker 1>venue and the preacher and everything. We just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>idolize that, and I think it has become blown way

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<v Speaker 1>out of proportion. I think it's important. It's important to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate that. Yeah, it's important. But the wedding day industry

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<v Speaker 1>blowing up the way that it has versus the statistics

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<v Speaker 1>of divorce and marriage is kind of not in line

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<v Speaker 1>with where it needs to be. Like we need to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on like our marriages and not just the wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what you're getting at. Yeah, absolutely, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would lean in hard to your fiance and wrap

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<v Speaker 1>this up pretty quick. Go to the justice of the peace,

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<v Speaker 1>get your license, have a small if it's if it's

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<v Speaker 1>about if you're prolonging because of a venue that's booked

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<v Speaker 1>till October of twenty twenty three or whatever, just make

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<v Speaker 1>that a fun reception, plan a big tenure anniversary party,

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<v Speaker 1>and put a lot of eggs in that basket. But

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<v Speaker 1>don't prolong this. I would say, get this done pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's the underlying issue of why

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<v Speaker 1>her sister's matt. I think this is an infertility thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think anonymous, I think you lean into your

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<v Speaker 1>sister with nothing but grace and humbleness and kindness, which

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<v Speaker 1>you say that you're doing. I would say, lean harder,

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<v Speaker 1>lean into that harder, now I'm listening to your answer

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<v Speaker 1>because like I'm processing it and something that's happened in

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<v Speaker 1>my own life, Like, how do we so I'm with you, anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we lean in harder? What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe it means meeting her where she is

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<v Speaker 1>and truly trying to empathize and show her that your

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<v Speaker 1>heart is broken with her broken heart if she really

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<v Speaker 1>is broken with this inability to have a baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>like she's struggling with this, like going to her and

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<v Speaker 1>be like cis like I am just devastated with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I really I hate that this is how this

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<v Speaker 1>is going. I do wish it was different. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>it could be like this and talk about it and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe talk to her about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything else going on that is keeping her

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<v Speaker 1>from accepting what reality is. Yeah, I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>can be sometimes very destructive in every kind of relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's your marriage, with your kids, with your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>is when we are unable to control something and then

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<v Speaker 1>we respond in a way that is not accepting of

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<v Speaker 1>the reality that God has put in front of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of thinking now that maybe I misinterpreted one

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<v Speaker 1>part of this, she said in this last paragraph, they

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<v Speaker 1>also told my twin sister, who is married, that they

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<v Speaker 1>should have been the ones to get pregnant. So so

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the twin. So there's it's another sister. It's

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<v Speaker 1>another sister. And then you have the older sister. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably the older sister, which is the hierarchy of

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<v Speaker 1>they should have had the baby first. Okay, okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I'm pulling this together. You could use your

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<v Speaker 1>twin sister as an asset to this problem. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this this might be a three sister conversation. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the one the one thing you don't do

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<v Speaker 1>is push her away. That was your one of your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I push push their toxic behavior away? You could,

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<v Speaker 1>you could push their toxic behavior away, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>push her away because she's your sister. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>think you just overwhelm her with grace and you take

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<v Speaker 1>the hit, you take the blows. Yeah. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you said this on the last podcast with Parker or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the one before where everything that you all this

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<v Speaker 1>toxic behavior or whatever she's saying to you, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just come back to her immediately with humility, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>know You're absolutely right. It's like she can't keep going like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where that you know, like approaching it with humility

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<v Speaker 1>even though anonymous. We know that's not an easy thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It's not gonna be easy for her to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe just like take like you're saying, just take

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<v Speaker 1>the blow and like and also understanding that this is family,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a sister, this is a lifetime and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that's going to take four or five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you Are you willing to kind of like take

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<v Speaker 1>the small little steps, hey, you know, in the next month,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope to just like have coffee with her and

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<v Speaker 1>listen and ask some questions and then maybe by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year we can get to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where it's not the main focus. And yeah, totally. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the last thing I might say here is that

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<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't glorify this baby to your sister very often.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I wouldn't be texting her pictures of the sonogram

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, you know, third, try master, here we come.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so excited about October fifth, you know, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You might lay off that kind of stuff. You might

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<v Speaker 1>might just downplay this a little bit more. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're on Instagram posting tons of pictures of the new

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<v Speaker 1>nursery that you just made and the new crib you

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<v Speaker 1>just bought, and maybe maybe for your sister's sake, you

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<v Speaker 1>pumped the brakes on that a little bit out of

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<v Speaker 1>respect for her pain. This baby is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a huge blessing to you, and you're you're very very

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<v Speaker 1>very soon to be husband. We hope this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a huge blessing. And so that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to glorified anymore externally to convince anyone else of that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. You also do have to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot change anyone's heart. So all you can do,

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<v Speaker 1>all you can control is the way that you respond.

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<v Speaker 1>You can control the amount of grace and patience and

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<v Speaker 1>humility that you come with. If your sister is still

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<v Speaker 1>harboring and it may not be against you, it may

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with you, it may just be

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<v Speaker 1>probably a lot of jealousy, a lot of insecurity, and

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<v Speaker 1>so just continue to you know that, that would just

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<v Speaker 1>be My advice is like, continue to pursue with humility,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you're not with her, just continue to intercede

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<v Speaker 1>and pray for her. Heart, that God would restore what's

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<v Speaker 1>broken and what she feels like is lost and missing,

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<v Speaker 1>that God would be what fills that, and then hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that relationship can start to kind of bond again around that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is going to get the situation is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get worse before it gets better. Prepared for that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're only in the second trimester. I will also say

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<v Speaker 1>that one year of infertility is not that long in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of people dealing with infertility, right, Yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for this email, and we wish the best

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, keep us posted too. I'd love for

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<v Speaker 1>you to email back in because a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>we hear these questions and we give advice and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of send you off and hope for the best. But

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<v Speaker 1>we really do would love to hear like how things

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<v Speaker 1>progress and what we could learn maybe from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if we gave terrible advice. It's like, hey, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>should never tell anybody that. Absolutely, it'd be great. Next question,

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<v Speaker 1>says Granger. First, let me say thank you for your

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<v Speaker 1>music and yegee Nation, and thank you for allowing God

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<v Speaker 1>to work in your life. It's inspiring and helps me

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<v Speaker 1>each day to be a better husband and a man,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, buddy. Recently, my wife and I started the

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<v Speaker 1>process to adopt a nineteen year old young man. We

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<v Speaker 1>have known him for years and when we worked at

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<v Speaker 1>the children's home as his house parents, we stayed in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with him and he has had a very special

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<v Speaker 1>place in our hearts. But he's always lacked that sense

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<v Speaker 1>of family. His dad isn't really in his life, and

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<v Speaker 1>neither is his mom. But in a recent phone call,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a conversation with him that started and we

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about family, and by the time it was over,

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<v Speaker 1>we invited him to be a part of our family,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he revealed to us in tears, that that

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<v Speaker 1>is what he has always wanted. It's we have an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing lawyer who has helped us and that's been such

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing, and we could be that family that he

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<v Speaker 1>has never had. We said that we're the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that we're the only ones that love him,

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<v Speaker 1>care about him, or even call him. And this morning

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<v Speaker 1>he texted me to say, hi, dad, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>My heart melted and yes, I've always loved him like

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<v Speaker 1>a son. We have no other kids of our own,

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<v Speaker 1>and because my wife has struggled with infertility and the

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<v Speaker 1>chances of pregnancy is low, so this is different for us,

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<v Speaker 1>even as former parents foster parents. He has a good

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<v Speaker 1>heart and just a good old country boy, but he

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<v Speaker 1>does need a good to get his ged or diploma,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is in a relationship with a girl who

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<v Speaker 1>is not good for him. I need advice on how

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage this young man to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be the best man he can, not

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<v Speaker 1>only for himself, but for the Lord as well. We

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to sharing life with this young man. The

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<v Speaker 1>lights just flickered for some reason. Why I was reading this.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from Brian. I'm not sure where Brian's from.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the email, and thank you for your

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<v Speaker 1>heavy heart, you and your wife. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great follow up to the infertility question, you know, following

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<v Speaker 1>it up with an adoption, a really really unique adoption

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<v Speaker 1>situation of a nineteen year old. But go ahead, Burns. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say it sounds like the question

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<v Speaker 1>is not should we move forward with adopting him, or

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<v Speaker 1>should we move forward with or or how do we

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<v Speaker 1>make him a part of our family? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>they've had that conviction, They've moved forward with it. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>in agreeance. It's more like, how do we transition to

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<v Speaker 1>being parent leader figures for him? And now as we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking on a new role in this in this boy's life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this young man's life at nineteen. That is tough. That

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<v Speaker 1>is tough. I personally have never come across this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation. I know that you have an adopted child,

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<v Speaker 1>but you adopted her as a baby, as an infant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>she was foster care for the first year of her life. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so she came at seven weeks to us, but okay,

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<v Speaker 1>a little different than nineteen for sure. My first thought

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<v Speaker 1>is is WHOA. I don't think I would immediately start

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<v Speaker 1>implementing a father figure in his relationship with a girl

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<v Speaker 1>and getting his g and ged or diploma. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>think that? It's like we came right out of adoption

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<v Speaker 1>and tears and melted hearts and we're right into, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need them to break up with his girlfriend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a few things that jumped out that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like both sides maybe jumping the gun a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I could be wrong here, we're hearing this

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<v Speaker 1>first time and you're not, you know, around the campfire,

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't ask you a bunch of questions. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the boy, and I don't know how long they

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<v Speaker 1>said that they were in, you know, some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>foster care situation maybe with him before, but for him

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<v Speaker 1>to like start texting this guy good morning, dad and

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<v Speaker 1>calling him dad, like I don't know how soon it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it feels like this they had this conversation and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was like, I'm gonna just start doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there may be some kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>longing for that in the boy that I would I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I would necessarily tell him not to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but that this is the same people that

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<v Speaker 1>he's known for a long time, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there should just be like a natural progression of like

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<v Speaker 1>as it was, we're just continuing to go deeper together.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the same thing with the parents, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like they're both they were kind of at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain level together of relationship and care for each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they just kind of had this conversation. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, let's just go jump into the deep

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<v Speaker 1>end now instead of like, well, no, just keep waiting

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<v Speaker 1>out into the water together. Yeah, yeah, don't just like,

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<v Speaker 1>take the list, just one step at a time. Just

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<v Speaker 1>keep waiting out in the water. Okay, okay. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I hear. What I hear you saying wading out

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<v Speaker 1>into the water. I think this is what this might mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, he's a good country boy. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>means you say, hey, he doesn't have to say have

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<v Speaker 1>his name here, but hey, son, I booked us a

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<v Speaker 1>trip in October to Montana, and we're going to go out,

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<v Speaker 1>me and you. We're gonna go trout fishing in this lake.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna spend seven days, me and you, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out. We're gonna camp, We're gonna fish, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hike, we're gonna take in this incredible the incredible

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<v Speaker 1>mountains of Montana or wherever. And during that trip, you

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<v Speaker 1>start instilling. First of all, you're there for him forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you will start encouraging. You said, how do I

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<v Speaker 1>need to encourage him? How to do the right thing?

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<v Speaker 1>You show him? And and in this camping trip, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there in the mountains and you hear this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful stream rolling by, and you say, tell me about

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<v Speaker 1>your girlfriend, what's she like? Like, I said, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about her, and how does she make you

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about yourself? And just walk through it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then as he brings up the red flags, you make

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<v Speaker 1>him answer those red red flags for himself. So instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just becoming right in with this iron fist, he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's great, Well she does you know, she does get

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<v Speaker 1>on me a lot about my bad this habit, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you just go, well, how does that? How does

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<v Speaker 1>that make you feel? No, man, I think you just

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<v Speaker 1>nailed it. This is the answer to his question. Because

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's in you know, parenting, marriage, business, wherever you are,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the best leaders know how to ask

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<v Speaker 1>these profound, impact amazing questions. Yeah, that just draw the

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<v Speaker 1>truth out of people instead of you trying to force

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<v Speaker 1>it into him. Yeah, so you're absolutely right. Take him

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<v Speaker 1>on this trip. Me and Grangel will go to if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all love to fish up there, but and just go

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<v Speaker 1>ask him a bunch of questions in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>like I genuinely want to know these things, because I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you this kid is nineteen now, so he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, he's an adult. And knowing kids that have

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<v Speaker 1>been through a lot in their life, whether it's foster

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<v Speaker 1>care or otherwise. He's resilient. He's stronger than you think,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't need you to tell him what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He just needs you to help guide him and process

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<v Speaker 1>with him. There's a good chance you come back from

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<v Speaker 1>this camping trip and the first thing he does is

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<v Speaker 1>break up with his girlfriend and start pursuing a ged Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>without you even saying it. Yep, it's a great question. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>going to turn up the heat on you. Okay, the

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>questions are going to get intense or hashtag topics if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm brave enough. I still don't know if I'm brave

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<v Speaker 1>enough to click on a couple of these topics. Okay,

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:52.479
<v Speaker 1>let me start with Let me start with an easy

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>This is super easy. We can make this quick. The

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<v Speaker 1>subject is, Bernie, what is Bernie's educational background. Has he

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>studied religion, theology or psychology. Well, I am a college dropout,

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm only a college dropout because I went to

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>one community college class and I left before it actually started.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>So am I technically a college dropout? Or I mean

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I registered, but I never went to the one class

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and then I never went back ever again. So it's

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>just naturally smart, that's the answer to her question. My

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>education is on the streets. Okay, yeah, okay, So no, no,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I have not studied formally studied theology. I have not

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>formally studied psychology, but on my own I have studied

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>both of those things. I think far more intensely than

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I would have if I would have gone when I

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>was nineteen. Yeah, I totally get that. So I've heard

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it couple people every once in a while. If you're

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>watching on YouTube, I've seen some kind of comment that says,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>why is Granger looking at his phone while the other

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>person's talking, Because I'm not just sitting here scrolling through Twitter.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm literally I'm looking at either the my phone's on

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>airplane mode. I'm either looking at the question or seeing

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>how to tie in another question to what he's saying, Okay,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>calmed down, guys. This title is this is a tough one.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>It's called My Decimation of Faith. It says, Hey, Granger,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Thomas. I'm twenty years old. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>college student twenty one in December. From ages thirteen to eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I was extremely strong in the church I attended. I

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>believed youth groups, retreats, anything else you can imagine, I

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>did it. At age eighteen, my faith was shaken when

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I started asking questions that the consensus that I received

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>from every conversation was to just have faith. And everyone

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>knows it's pretty difficult to have faith in someone you've

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>never met. What really has twisted me away from Christianity

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is this. When you get to heaven, God either tells

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you well done, my good and faithful servant, or he

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>turns you away. You're let into heaven by developing a

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>relationship with him. But if the only way to get

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>into heaven is to have a relationship with Christ, this

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>accounts for roughly thirty one percent of the world's population.

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>The other sixty nine percent never makes it, and that's

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the only logical explanation that they would just have to

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>go to hell without a relationship with Christ, I find

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it extremely hard to believe that an almighty God who

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>loves the entire world sends the other sixty nine percent

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>of all the population to help. This, amongst other similar reasons,

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>is why I believe that this has driven me from

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the church and I don't even consider myself religious at

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>all anymore. The kicker is that I'm going through a

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>really tough time and I remember being able to pray

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and feel some sort of relief, which I have a

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>desire to have back. So who do I too when

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>there isn't anyone there? Thanks Thomas. PS. I'm a huge

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>fan of you in your role model for everyone in

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the advice you provide with or without religion involved. I

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>told you I was turning out the heat on you

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>turns Thomas, don't see where you're from. Brother, Thank you,

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>thank you. That's a man. That is a great question,

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's a lot of people on all

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>sides of the fences that go, yeah, that's a great question. Absolutely.

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's awesome that you're writing in the question.

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>First of all, there's something so I'm gonna keep this

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>really civil. Granger will probably jump in a little deeper

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm gonna I can come in as well,

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>but I might just answer it and I'll go. Actually,

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually tattooed this on my body that I believe

0:32:55.080 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>this so much. There's the word seek. I really believe Eve.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>The reason I put this on my body is one

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>because I don't if I ever get to a place

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>where I feel like I have found everything, I need

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>to be reminded that in this life I need to

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>continue and continue to seek more and more of Jesus,

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>more and more of Truth, more and more of Him.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Never get to a place where I'm oh, I got it.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And the other part of that is to get to

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<v Speaker 1>a place where I tell people this is what you need,

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>because I think that's going to probably for you. What

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>was his name, Thomas, Thomas. I think that may go

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in one ear and out the other. But brother, I

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>would just beg you to continue to seek, and I

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>have complete faith that you are going to find what

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you are looking for. Yeah, seeking you will find. Knocking,

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the door will be opened. You say here, you kind

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of answered a little bit yourself when you say I

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>remember being able to pray and feeling some sort of relief,

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and I have a desire, a desire. It's an interesting

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>word to say to have that back. But who do

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<v Speaker 1>I pray to when there isn't anyone there? The answer

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to that is, you don't. You don't pray to anyone

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not there. Why would you pray? Why would you

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>do that? That's a that's a ridiculous idea. You're not ridiculous,

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a but that's a ridiculous idea. That is as

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a Bible would say, that's a foolish idea. Yeah, or

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you'd just be praying to yourself because you're living in

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>a self centered, self controlled world. That really is we're

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>just floating here. Yeah, we're we are a cosmic startust

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>that happened by accident. If you believe in that worldview,

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the atheistic worldview is that we we really are an accident.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I heard it put this way, like, in the atheistic worldview,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 1>we're we're a total cosmic accident. So in that case,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else matters. You're offering Thomas doesn't matter. Your your

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>desire to get to have relief doesn't matter. It's like

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at as you look at a sunset on the

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>beach and you go, this is an incredible sunset. That's

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the image of God, saying, that's the image of God

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>within you thinking that, But an atheist wouldn't think that

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that's that'd be the equivalent of you open up the

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>fridge and you spill milk on the ground, and milk

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>goes boom, hits the ground and it just spills on

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>your kitchen floor. You don't look at the spilled milk

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and go, that's so beautiful, look at the shapes and colors. No,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't. You just go, that's a mess. Yeah, incident.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's what a sunset is in that kind of worldview.

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>It's an It's just a mess. It's there's no order,

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just a random, just explosion. And so, Thomas, you

0:35:55.640 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>don't I have a reason to empathize with your suffering.

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I have a reason to cry with you when you're

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>in pain. I have a reason to celebrate during when

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you have a great achievement. That's the Christian worldview is

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>we have a basis for that. I reject the idea

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that just have faith. Hey, Thomas, I'm with you on that.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>You say, the best consistency you could consensus you can

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>get is just have faith. Dude, I agree I think

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that's terrible. If you're driving in a car blindfolded and

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you have four ball tires and you're going down a

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 1>windy mountain road, I don't say, hey, Thomas, just have

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>faith man, that car is going to get there. You're

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna go. That's ridiculous. You need a basis of your faith. Now,

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>in the Christian worldview, our basis is the Bible. Our

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>basis is God's word. That there is a million reasons,

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's a different conversation of why we could believe

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that the Bible comes from God, and why the Bible

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is true, and why the way that it was written

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and over the course of how many years and by

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>how many people, and the reason that it's still alive

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and well today. There's many reasons why we believe that

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bible is true. And so we base our faith

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>on those words, the word of God, not on a

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>blindfold on a mountain road. So that the thought within

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you that says something's wrong, I don't feel right. I

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>need to correct this through some kind of prayer. That

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>is the image of God inside you. That is what

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Bernie's saying about. Seek that seek that thought. Yeah, I'm

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>really go ahead, No, no no, go ahead. I was just

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, I'm realizing now that you said this guy's twenty.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Was that right, Thomas said? Twenty years old? Thomas is

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty Thomas, I I can relate to this more than

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you probably know. Whenever I was twenty, I remember being

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville, was a room with Kevy keV and I

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>remember talking with Melody one time, and I just kind

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of had this these things in the Bible that I

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I just can't get my head around that.

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Twenty This age that he is is a very formative

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>time in our belief system, in everything, and I just

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>remember growing up the way I did, and the kind

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:39.959
<v Speaker 1>of some events that had happened in my life brought

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>me to a place whenever I was like, you know,

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, that I was reading the Bible, I

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>was just like, well, why is this true? I don't

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>know if this is true? Why? You know, You're just

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of in that place of questioning why is any

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>other religion true? Which is great, Like I think that

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>we can be told like you don't need a question anything.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh God wants us to like to dig in and

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>wrestle with him, and so what I did, and this

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>would Thomas, this would be my advice, just practical advice.

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>And this is what I did. And Kevy keV can

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.959
<v Speaker 1>attest to this. I took my Bible and I took

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>some music. And back then, back in the day, it

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>was like the disc play, the CD portable disc player.

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And I went out in the woods for hours and

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>hours and hours, and I took my journal, my journal,

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>some music, and the Bible, and I would just go

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and sit and I would just wrestle, and I would pray,

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and I would look and I would read, and I

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>would write, and I would just wrestle through all of this.

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like what came out on the other side,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I really found something different than what I thought I

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>was looking for, but something far better. And so I think,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, Thomas, that would be my advice. Man, go

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>lose yourself in the woods. I actually still p that's awesome.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is something we all need to do.

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And Jesus did it, said more often than not, he

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>would retreat from the others to pray and be with

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>the Father, like go lose yourself in the woods, take

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the word of God with you, pray, write in a journal,

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>write all the stuff that you're thinking and then just

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of be still. So I want to dig into

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the thirty one and sixty nine percent. Okay, here we go.

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna go I'm just going to jump

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>in headdeep because, like I said, Thomas, it's a great

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>question and take what Bernie said and wrestle with this.

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>But I want to ask you a few questions, which

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>is hard on this podcast because I don't get to

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.439
<v Speaker 1>hear your retort. I want to ask you a few questions. One,

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you say you consider yourself not religious anymore, So what

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>does it matter if sixty nine percent aren't saved? What

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>does it matter to you? Doesn't matter if anybody's saved,

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing matters. We're a cosmic accident that in that kind

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of worldview. So then you go, well, well, maybe there

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>is a god out there, but I just don't know

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>if it's possible for us to know him. So then

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I would say this, if there is a god out

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>there and a creator, and and he would say and

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I would ask you this, Thomas, so should he save everybody?

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Every single person, every single human that ever was or

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>ever will be. Should he save them all, regardless of

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>their lives? And then you might say, well, like maybe

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>not like the rapist murderers. Then so then I would say, okay, well,

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>what's the level of rape and murder? Where where's the cutoff? Like, Oh,

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna work the rapers and the murderers are going

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to go to hell. But the ones that just rape

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe will just save them. No, we shouldn't. We shouldn't

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>save them either. Okay, well how about this, Thomas, how

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>about just the like the the verbally abusive, we will

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>will save them, but not the physically abusive. But my

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 1>point is, where would the cutoff be to who is good?

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Because the Bible says none of us are. The Bible

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>says we're all sinners, none of us are worthy of

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>being saved. And that goes for you, Thomas, that goes

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>from me and Bernie and everybody listening. The Bible says

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 1>none of us are worthy of being in the presence

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of the almighty Creator because we're wretched. Have you ever lied?

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever told a fib in your life? Then

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>you're a liar. Have you ever stole anything, then you're

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>a thief? Right. None of us could rebut that and

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>go no, actually, pretty perfect. None of us could say that.

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>So with that kind of mentality, and you realize that

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>there is no cutoff of being between good and bad,

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>between heaven and hell, then what if God said this,

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You're all bad, You've all messed up. So I'm going

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to send you a savior. I'm gonna send you a

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>savior to take on all of your pain, to take

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>on all of your guilt and all of your sin

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and take all of that burden. Believe in him and

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you'll be saved. So you could look at it this way.

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>God loved the world. He loved He so loved the

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>entire world, like you said, enough to send his only

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>begotten son, which means holy set apart son to Earth

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to take the replacement of that all that mess up.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't. This is key to your question. He

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't love the world enough for you to reject his son.

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>He loves the world enough to send his son for

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>those to believe, but not enough for you to reject him.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>So when you get down on your knee and you

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>decide that you're going to say a prayer for relief

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and you don't know who to pray, to follow Bernie's

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>advice and seek and say, God, I heard this message.

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And what I told you guys was the gospel. There

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>is an almighty, holy God Creator that became flesh, that

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>came to this earth two thousand years ago to take

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>on all that pain. He lived a perfect life and

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>took on the burden of all your pain, Thomas, and

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>all your mess ups and all mine and all Bernie's.

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>He took that on himself, was killed, was crucified, and

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>took it all on himself, and then was resurrected, proving

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 1>his identity in front of hundreds of people. And this

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>happened on this earth, the same soil where we walk.

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>This happened. And that is the message of the gospel

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>if you choose to believe in him. So when you pray,

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>ask that say God, I heard the story of this

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>guy Jesus, and I just can't I wrestle with the

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>fact that not everyone's going to go to heaven. But then,

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 1>but then I heard on the podcast and Grangeer was

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>talking that, you know, but maybe he's right that maybe

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>none of us deserve it. So if thirty one percent

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>get in, like you said, I don't know where that

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>number comes from, but if thirty one percent, how could

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that even be possible that you would allow thirty one

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>percent when we're all bad. Let me know more about that.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I believe this. I don't want to have blind faith.

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to drive on a mountain by myself

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 1>with a blindfold on. That's ridiculous, that's foolish. I want

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to believe in you because this is what the Word says.

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Seek and you will find knock and the door will

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be open. And if you have to tattoo it on

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>your wrist like Burnie Good, I think that's great. So

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>before Thomas, before you go out into the woods, listen

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>back to everything Granger just said. Maybe write it down

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 1>so that you can leave your phone at home and uh,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 1>but you can listen to those words, take the Word

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>with you and go seek. Man. That's the power of

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 1>what we're saying here. Is not in us convincing you.

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not in us convincing anyone listening to this podcast

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>on how eloquent my words are, how accurate I speak them,

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>or how how influenced Dike can be to you. I

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:19.399
<v Speaker 1>cannot convince you intellectually, or psychologically or physiologically, whatever any

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>other ologies. I cannot convince you. But the power of

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 1>that message the power of the gospel. Can I'll leave

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you with that. Yep? All right, all right, we're waiting

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>out in the water. We're in the water. Man. I struggle, guys,

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>because some of these questions are let me go to

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>this one. This is a good transition. It's called how

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>do you know if you're saved? Let's go there. It

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>might be a good transition of what we just We

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>might be able to piggyback on that last message, but

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.240
<v Speaker 1>it says, Hey, Granger, my name is A J. Komer.

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm from Fort Worth, Texas. Shout out to tech. First off,

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I love what you're doing for all these people you

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>have pulled. You have pulled me and probably many others

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:11.319
<v Speaker 1>closer to God simply through this podcast. I pray that

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you're right, Aj. I have one question when it comes

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>to all of this, how do you know that you're saved?

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I know this is a very vague question to ask,

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>but what I mean is this, how do you know

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 1>that Jesus has forgiven you of all your sins and

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>will allow you to join Him in many others in heaven.

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>That's a great piggyback from what we just said. Yeah, so, uh,

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take I'm gonna take this one go. How

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>do you know that? Can you read the question one

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 1>more time? Because I want to make sure I'm answering

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>it specifically. So it sounds like aj has listened to

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>this podcast and he's curious. He's in the seeking mode.

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>He's ready to tattoo seek on his on his wrist.

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He says, I have one question, how do you know

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that you're saved? How do you know that Jesus has

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 1>forgave That's what he said, you of all your sins

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and will allow you to join him and many others

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in heaven. Okay, I'm just going to pray that I

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>communicate this correctly because I have been studying this in

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>the Book of Luke, and I'm not the smartest. Some

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>of you may think differently, but I'm not the smartest,

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and retaining this and reciting it is really tough. But

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of things that I go back to

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of stories that Jesus talked about, the story

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector, and

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the parable of the children come the children entering the

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Kingdom of God. So if we go back to how

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>so question is, how do we know that we are forgiven? Okay,

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.439
<v Speaker 1>so let's look at this is this is Jesus right,

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>He was there in the beginning, created all of this.

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.959
<v Speaker 1>This is all, you know, moving towards the glory of him.

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 1>He knows the beginning and the end. Okay, he's speaking

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this and he says, this is parable about this Pharisee,

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>who in that culture was very revered and respected, and

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 1>he kind of went up to the temple for this

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 1>time of sacrifice and was really praying to himself, but

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 1>he acknowledged God, and he was saying, I've done all

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>of these things. I've kept your commandments. I give to

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the poor. And then he says, I haven't done this,

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't done that, like the adulterers and prostitutes,

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and definitely like that tech, not like that tax collector.

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>So he is separating himself and trying to work and

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>show that, Hey, this is how I am worthy of

0:49:54.719 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>atonement and this repentance that you're talking about, this this

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>salvation that you're talking about. This is the way that

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.439
<v Speaker 1>he Jesus says this, This was what the Pharisee did.

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<v Speaker 1>But then a tax collector, which in that culture was

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<v Speaker 1>like the lowest of loads of the earth, the scum

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>of the earth. They had turned on their own people,

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>and then we're taxing them and taking advantage of them.

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>They were just outcasts that from far off, the tax

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>collector saw what was happening, and he said, have mercy

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>on me. This sinner not a sinner. He's saying, the

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.280
<v Speaker 1>sinner like I'm the worst. I recognize I am the worst.

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:48.720
<v Speaker 1>And not only that I have nothing, I haven't done anything.

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I've actually done everything against what this is saying for

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:58.760
<v Speaker 1>my salvation. But then Jesus says, this is the one

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that went down just afy, and the other did not

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>go down justified. He didn't go down saved the Pharisee

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 1>although he was doing all this stuff. But the tax

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>collector who had done nothing but wrong and then come

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and just pleaded for mercy. And in the original text,

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>this is like saying, hey, let this like, you be

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the propitiation for me, You be the sacrifice so that

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I can be here, so that I can be saved.

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>He recognized this right. So what that tells us is

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that this kind of like anything that we can do

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to earn this salvation and to feel like we are saved,

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing. But then the very next passage in Luke,

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he talks about the children coming to him, and the

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 1>disciples actually rebuked and said, and you know, the parents

0:51:56.360 --> 0:52:01.879
<v Speaker 1>were bringing even these infants Jesus and the disciples were

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>like no, no, And Jesus said, let them come to

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 1>me now in the text, now present, and don't ever

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:17.240
<v Speaker 1>hinder them from coming to me. Moving forward, he's teaching

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>him saying, hey, because unless you receive the gospel, receive

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.839
<v Speaker 1>the kingdom as a child, you will not enter it.

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 1>So then it makes me think like, okay, what does

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a child have to offer? Can they take care of themselves?

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Can they provide for themselves? No? They are fully reliant

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>on their parents. So how do you know that you

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 1>are saved? How do you know that you will accompany

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that Jesus has saved you, and that you will accompany

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 1>many others. I have to believe one, that you have

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>put your faith in Jesus, and that you have given

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>him every square inch of your life, and that you

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 1>go to him each morning and throughout the day saying, Jesus,

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 1>have mercy, Please have mercy on me the sinner. I

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>rely on you for everything, and I think that what

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the Gospel or what the Word continues to tell us

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>in different places is there is a piece that surpasses

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>understanding that will cover your heart in your mind. Yep.

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's helpful. And maybe that's just

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 1>something that I've personally been kind of digging into with,

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, a group of guys and has just opened

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>my eyes. I was more in the camp of, well,

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I got to do these things, and I have to

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>show people that I'm doing these things because then maybe

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll feel better about my own salvation. And the Word

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:01.680
<v Speaker 1>just kind of said, dude, you got it all wrong, man.

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 1>So kind of what you're saying, Bernie, you're kind of

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>answering it in the way that he asked it, because

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>he asked, how do you know? And that's why you

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>answered it that way, how do you know that you're saved?

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Because he didn't say how are you saved? How do

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you know? And so that's I love that. I love

0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that and I want to dig into how are you?

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:25.839
<v Speaker 1>You answered how do you know? I'm gonna answer how

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>are you? Because the Bible is very clear about how

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:35.920
<v Speaker 1>are you saved? You're saved by grace, meaning sheer love

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of God, unmerited faith, unmerited favor. Great, you're saved by

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>unmerited favor through faith. Believe. Believing is the only requirement.

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Believing in that message and the message I said in

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the last question. And you're saved by unmerited favor. That's it.

0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>And you could find this over and over. This is

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 1>what's set, guys. This is what separates Christianity from every

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.439
<v Speaker 1>other religion. And I'll take the heat, I'll take the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll jump in head first right now and just say

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<v Speaker 1>this is what separates it from Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, LDS,

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<v Speaker 1>Jehovah's witness, scientology, every other one is faith plus works.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically works, something that you do, something you act on.

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<v Speaker 1>But Christians don't believe. That's very very clear in the

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 1>scriptures over and over and all that every time it's said.

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<v Speaker 1>It harmonizes beautifully with all the scriptures. But it's very

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<v Speaker 1>clear you're saved by faith, by grace, through faith, not

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<v Speaker 1>by works. Lest no man should boast you are not

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<v Speaker 1>saved by anything that you do. You are a sinner,

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<v Speaker 1>aj and I'm a sinner, and everybody else that's emailed

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and everyone that's listening. We do not deserve it. We

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>deserve punishment for who we are, and that punishment is

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>paid in full. It's see. And have you ever heard

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the analogy of the judge. It's like the analogy of this.

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<v Speaker 1>This kid gets arrested and he goes to face the judge,

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<v Speaker 1>and the judge is his father, and he stands. He

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<v Speaker 1>sits there on the stand, and the judge, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a well established judge, looks at his own son, at

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<v Speaker 1>the crime that he's done. The judge has to hit

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.759
<v Speaker 1>him with punishment. The judge can't say, well, you're my son,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna let you free. Someone has to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for this. So the judge does, well, your penalty is

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars, and the the kid goes, well, that's great, judge. Father.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the kid does not have fifty thousand dollars. So

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<v Speaker 1>then the judge sentences him to the fifty thousand dollars fine.

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.840
<v Speaker 1>He steps away from the podium, take off his garment,

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>He goes around the bench and he puts his arm

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<v Speaker 1>around the kid and he goes, I'm gonna pay this

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>for you. This is your penalty, but I'm gonna pay

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it for you. And that's that is the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the Gospel. Your faith is the only requirement. There is

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:19.640
<v Speaker 1>no works. That now, no works is a reflection of

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the faith. How do you know you have a living faith?

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>How do you know you're saved because you're you're gonna

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 1>work the way? How you live your life after the faith,

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 1>after you're saved, after all that grace at how you

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.919
<v Speaker 1>live your life after that is a reflection. And that's

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 1>why we see in James two he says that that

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<v Speaker 1>faith without works is dead. The fruits of the spirit

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:42.919
<v Speaker 1>are fruth. You're you're gonna know, you're gonna you're gonna

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.240
<v Speaker 1>be overwhelmed by a conscience that goes I probably shouldn't

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 1>speak talk like that. I probably should clean up my

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>filthy mouth. I probably shouldn't say that, I should probably

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't look at that girl in that way. You know,

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the list goes on and on. I probably shouldn't take

0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:58.960
<v Speaker 1>this five dollars from this guy because he accidentally left

0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>on the counter. I should probably go run him down

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and give him his five bucks back. That's the overwhelming

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>conviction that you'll have after faith. But Christianity, guys is

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:13.200
<v Speaker 1>saved by grace through faith alone, not by works. It's

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>not anything after that, and that's what separates us from

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>LDS and Islam and Judaism and Buddhism and hindu I'm

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>going to say it. I said this twice. I said

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the list twice, so there's absolutely no confusion on where

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>my conviction is. And then anyone that listening, if anyone's

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>any confused at all on the Christ that I follow,

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I follow the one of the scriptures solely, scripture Scripture US,

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I think is the Latin by the scriptures only, and

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 1>we believe that the God's word has maintained. The flowers

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 1>will fade, but the word of God will never die,

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and we believe that we believe that it's it's the

0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>word of God. I kind of feel like I kind

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 1>of like we're hitting these two questions hard. And I

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<v Speaker 1>apologize to anyone that's like, I don't know, but but

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>this really important stuff. Don't apologize. Man. Those guys that

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 1>are out there that are listening to it that feel

0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>that way, hopefully they respect you enough to to at

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 1>least recognize. He's standing up for what he believes, and

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 1>he's doing it in a way that not many other

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>people with your kind of platform would do. There's definitely some,

0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>but they can believe different things and still have respect

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>for you, so I wouldn't apologize. Man. Thank you man.

0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think we started this podcast by saying, I'm

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 1>going to answer these questions with you the best way

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that I know how. And here's the question subject, how

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 1>do you know if you're saved? That's where I'm going

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 1>to go. Yeah, I'm going to tell you aj exactly

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 1>what I believe, and I'm going to give you the

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<v Speaker 1>best evidence that I can with that belief so that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not on the mountain driving blindly Burn's run of time. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man, this is fun. Yeah, appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you guys. We'll see you soon. Yege, thank you

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