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Speaker 1: us a lot. All right, let's talk some basketball. First question, Jason,
Speaker 1: your list is a projection for the season start to finish,
Speaker 1: so it's logically an entertaining video for you to react
Speaker 1: to your list one year later. No, I would thoroughly
Speaker 1: enjoy that good and bad predictions. Love the show, keep
Speaker 1: up the good work. So in the interests of participating
Speaker 1: in this idea, I went through my list from last year.
Speaker 1: I have seven, seven specific things that I thought I
Speaker 1: was wrong about, and then we'll go over the rest
Speaker 1: of the list. The rest of the list I actually
Speaker 1: think I feel pretty good about with where I was at.
Speaker 1: Right again, there's a lot of projection here, but these
Speaker 1: are the seven things that I got wrong last season.
Speaker 1: First of all, Luca over Shay. So I had Luca
Speaker 1: at two and Shae at three. There was no case
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form to have Shae over
Speaker 1: to have Luca over Shae last season based on what
Speaker 1: we saw during the season, Shae was more reliable terms
Speaker 1: of his night to night availability. Luca struggled to stay
Speaker 1: healthy throughout the season and then ended up not even
Speaker 1: able to play in the postseason, he was less efficient
Speaker 1: both in true shooting and in turnovers. Shaye was a
Speaker 1: less damaging defender. Like it just Shay was just better
Speaker 1: than Luca in every single way. Now do I My
Speaker 1: whole rationale for putting Luc over Shay was pretty simple.
Speaker 1: It was basically the Luca from twenty twenty four is
Speaker 1: a better scorer than Shay and a better passer than Shay,
Speaker 1: And so that was literally just my reasoning for putting
Speaker 1: Luca in that position. A couple of things. Shay then
Speaker 1: proved to be a better, more efficient score. Now we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about this when we get to Shay
Speaker 1: later on in the list, but Shay has been a
Speaker 1: precipitous playoff dropper in his career as a scorer, and
Speaker 1: that is something that I think is a relevant point
Speaker 1: in this discussion. But when you factor in the fact
Speaker 1: that Shay is a regular season player has asked Luca
Speaker 1: as a scorer in terms of his ability to score efficiently,
Speaker 1: factor in the turnovers, and then the fact that Shay
Speaker 1: doesn't turn the basketball over, which is a huge value
Speaker 1: add for him, it closed the gap there. Now the
Speaker 1: question is is, like, do I think like the Luca
Speaker 1: from March is capable of being better than Shae. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I think it's on the table this year. Spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: Luca is not going to be over Shae on the
Speaker 1: list this year. But do I think there's a universe
Speaker 1: where Luca has a better season than Shaye this year?
Speaker 1: Of course that's possible. I'm a huge believer in Luca's ceiling.
Speaker 1: I only saw it for one month in a Lakers jersey.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him. I didn't think he touched it
Speaker 1: at all the first half season he played with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: He didn't really touch it much last year for the
Speaker 1: most part, But in that March stretch, I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, this guy is good. So like, it's not
Speaker 1: a question of whether or not I believe in Luca's ceiling.
Speaker 1: I certainly do. That was why I put him over
Speaker 1: Shae last year on the list. But Luca has shown
Speaker 1: far less ability to be at an to stay at
Speaker 1: his ceiling compared to Shay, and that that's where I
Speaker 1: was really wrong. There two Ant at number five. Two
Speaker 1: years in a row. I had Ant at number five,
Speaker 1: and I think both times I had him too high.
Speaker 1: The first year I had him over Tatum. That ended
Speaker 1: up being a mistake. Last year. Obviously Tatum wasn't in
Speaker 1: the equation. You didn't even make my list because of
Speaker 1: the Achilles injury, right, But I had him at five
Speaker 1: because I thought he would take a leap ended up,
Speaker 1: you know, cutting down some of his three point volume,
Speaker 1: but it was it kind of led to an uneven
Speaker 1: up and down season, ended up physically breaking down at
Speaker 1: the end. Hasn't really developed as a process or the
Speaker 1: way that i'd like. I remain a huge Anthony Edwards
Speaker 1: fan and someone who's rooting for him, but the leap
Speaker 1: that I'm expecting him to take as like a like
Speaker 1: a real grown adult version of himself just as it
Speaker 1: remains to be seen. And I think both years having
Speaker 1: him at five was too high. Victor. I had Victor
Speaker 1: at number seven, which again felt right going into last season.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expected him to be as good
Speaker 1: as he was last season, so I was wrong about that,
Speaker 1: But I don't feel too bad about it because I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody like Victor's threatening number one, and I
Speaker 1: just don't know many people that had him threatening number
Speaker 1: one exactly a year ago, So like shout out to Victor,
Speaker 1: but I did have him too low at number seven.
Speaker 1: I had Trey Young and Anthony Davis on the list.
Speaker 1: Those guys ended up playing a combined thirty five games,
Speaker 1: so that ended up hurting both of them in this
Speaker 1: year's list. That was a big wrong for me. I
Speaker 1: kid cunning him at number eighteen. Spoiler alert, He's going
Speaker 1: to be way higher this year. Cad has impressed me
Speaker 1: a ton over the course of the last year. That
Speaker 1: ended up being too low for him. I had ja
Speaker 1: Dubb over Jaylen Brown. I had j Dub at twenty
Speaker 1: in Jaylen Brown at twenty one. Now, Jadub was coming
Speaker 1: off of a finals where like he was great for
Speaker 1: the final two rounds and had a forty point finals game.
Speaker 1: And Jadub certainly had injury issues this year. But even
Speaker 1: if you factor in the injury issues, which I don't
Speaker 1: think any of us saw coming, I still think Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown just like especially given the responsibility that was on
Speaker 1: his plate. I just think he was. I think he
Speaker 1: was and is a better basketball player than Jdeb Right now,
Speaker 1: Do I think Jadub can become a better player than
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown, Yes, especially if he stays healthy. I heard
Speaker 1: he's working out with Shay's trainer and doing some stuff
Speaker 1: like that to kind of rebuild his body a little bit.
Speaker 1: But certainly having him over Jalen Brown last year was
Speaker 1: a mistake. And then lastly I had Evan Mobley one
Speaker 1: spot over BAM and we had a whole debate about it,
Speaker 1: and I was higher on MOBILEI. But the offensive development
Speaker 1: continues to not come around, and now he's actually threatening
Speaker 1: to be kind of like BAM two point zero. And overall,
Speaker 1: I just I like Bam a touch more as a
Speaker 1: especially as a playoff player. Factoring in his size and strength,
Speaker 1: I just think he's more physically resilient a little bit
Speaker 1: better I think Bam. I just I've changed my mind
Speaker 1: on that I had Mobiley barely over BAM. Now I
Speaker 1: have BAM barely over Mobiley. So that's something that I'm
Speaker 1: going to say I was wrong about because I have
Speaker 1: since changed my mind. But again, honestly, I feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about the rest of the list. Jokich. This is
Speaker 1: the list for you guys at Jokich at one again.
Speaker 1: I understand that most people aren't going to have him
Speaker 1: at one this year. You guys will see where I
Speaker 1: have him this year. But like I don't think any
Speaker 1: player really has a great claim for number one, so
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could say, now, that's a terrible take.
Speaker 1: I look at two, Shay at three, Yannis at four,
Speaker 1: and it was five. Six was Steph Again. We didn't
Speaker 1: know Steph was going to physically break down the way
Speaker 1: that he did. Victor wemen Yama seven number eight. Lebron
Speaker 1: certainly wasn't anywhere near that good in the regular season,
Speaker 1: but I thought he was one of the ten best
Speaker 1: playoff players last year. Jaylen Brunson at nine. He won't
Speaker 1: be that low this year, but I thought that was
Speaker 1: fair going into last season. Anthony Davis at ten, Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant at eleven. I had Donovan Mitchell at twelve, Kawi
Speaker 1: Leonard at thirteen, Joel Embiid at fourteen, Devin Booker at fifteen,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler at sixteen, Pascal Siakam at seventeen, Cad Cunningham
Speaker 1: at eighteen, Palo at nineteen, j Dubba at twenty, Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown at twenty one, Evan Mobley at twenty two, Bam
Speaker 1: at twenty three, Trey Young twenty four, and then Jamal
Speaker 1: Murray twenty five, spoiler alert, Jamal Murray will be brought
Speaker 1: up in today's video. But yeah, that's my quick little
Speaker 1: rehashing of last year's ranking. Jason, I'm curious why Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobaert didn't even make your top fifty. I understand the
Speaker 1: offensive limitations, and then his defense isn't universally valuable against
Speaker 1: all offenses. But I still struggle to find fifty players
Speaker 1: that I'd rather have, even in less than ideal matchups.
Speaker 1: He's still an elite defender and in the right scheme,
Speaker 1: he's still a top five defensive anchor in basketball. He's
Speaker 1: also an elite rebounder, underrated passer, in one of the
Speaker 1: league's best screen setters alongside getting LaMelo Ball, I think
Speaker 1: we could see a slight resurgence in him as a
Speaker 1: lot threat. I totally agree. I know you said not
Speaker 1: to overreact to his recent performance, but I thought I
Speaker 1: thought the Joki series was a reminder of just how
Speaker 1: impactful he still can be what ultimately kept him off
Speaker 1: of your list. So this is why I love doing
Speaker 1: these mailbags. You guys are all really smart basketball fans,
Speaker 1: and you I really appreciate your perspective. I should have
Speaker 1: had Rudy in my list of fifty one or fifty
Speaker 1: I think it was fifty one players that I considered.
Speaker 1: Whatever that number was, he should have been on that list.
Speaker 1: I started to look back on my not my honorable mentions,
Speaker 1: but my guys that just missed the cut for honorable mention,
Speaker 1: and there were some guys on there like Zion Williamson
Speaker 1: and Brandon Ingram and Jaron Jackson that I just think
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert might be better then, so he should have
Speaker 1: made that list. There was just an oversight on my part.
Speaker 1: You laid out your case perfectly. Totally agree that he
Speaker 1: could see a resurgence offensively alongside LaMelo Ball this year.
Speaker 1: I'm just a big believer in Rudy Gobert. I even
Speaker 1: think when you're talking about like the defense that isn't
Speaker 1: universally valuable against all offenses, I think that could be
Speaker 1: said about any rim protecting center that gets stretched out.
Speaker 1: I mean we saw it against the Knicks for Wemby, right,
Speaker 1: So like, I just think Rudy is one of the
Speaker 1: very best defenders in the league. Totally agree with you.
Speaker 1: He should have made the list. You were right. Thank
Speaker 1: you for breaking it down for our listeners truly interested
Speaker 1: in why you didn't even consider Jamal Murray as a
Speaker 1: top twenty five player yet his best season last year,
Speaker 1: putting up twenty five point four points, four point four rebound,
Speaker 1: seven point one assists on an insane forty eight percent
Speaker 1: forty four percent eighty seven percent shooting splits carry Nuggets
Speaker 1: team that was destroyed by injuries all year. Made third
Speaker 1: team All NBA, and some analysts thought he should have
Speaker 1: made second team. If you're going to rank an All
Speaker 1: NBA player so low, I think there should be some
Speaker 1: explanation or expecting a major regression next year or a
Speaker 1: serious injury. I did the NBA analyst version of sticking
Speaker 1: your neck out for Jamal Murray last year because I'm
Speaker 1: just a big believer in him, and I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of Jamal Murray. And I put him at twenty five,
Speaker 1: put him over James Harden, and I got shredded for
Speaker 1: it online and all year in the regular season, I
Speaker 1: was like, HHM, I was right about Jamal. You know,
Speaker 1: looking at him, he's having this great season, best regular
Speaker 1: season of his career, and then he threw up that
Speaker 1: stinker in the first round series against Minnesota and I
Speaker 1: started to look back at the last few seasons, and
Speaker 1: he's kind of been a big playoff dropper in a
Speaker 1: way that is concerning to me compared to the way
Speaker 1: I viewed him as a playoff player. So, for example,
Speaker 1: after averaging twenty six points per game on fifty nine
Speaker 1: percent for shooting in the twenty twenty three title run,
Speaker 1: in his last three tight playoff runs, he's averaged just
Speaker 1: twenty one point seven points per game on fifty one
Speaker 1: percent for shooting, which is really really bad. And if
Speaker 1: you take away, like he's done enough to kind of
Speaker 1: like continue the reputation like big games here there, big
Speaker 1: shots here there, like hit two game winners against the
Speaker 1: Lakers in that first round series. I've said this before,
Speaker 1: but like the Lakers were actually like this close to
Speaker 1: the Nuggets that year. Just Jamal Murray just snatched their
Speaker 1: soul in every game. The Lakers like literally led like
Speaker 1: eighty percent of that series. For the record, I think
Speaker 1: the Nuggets were a better team. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: say that the Lakers were better, but I just thought
Speaker 1: that series was a lot closer than the four to
Speaker 1: one score. And again, Jamal Murray was the separating factor
Speaker 1: there in a lot of ways, but like, if you
Speaker 1: remove those game winners, like, it's been a lot of
Speaker 1: mishots and a lot of like just him not looking
Speaker 1: nearly as impactful on the playoff stage. And I again,
Speaker 1: like I still believe in Jamal, I just can't in
Speaker 1: my right mind as a got as you know, for
Speaker 1: the purpose of this list talking about October through June,
Speaker 1: I can't put him as high as I did last
Speaker 1: year because now we have a larger sample size of
Speaker 1: him kind of going down a level when he gets
Speaker 1: to the postseason. What's your argument for having ad outside
Speaker 1: of the top thirty two. I understand the health concerns,
Speaker 1: but for the most part the last year and a half,
Speaker 1: he's been pretty much playing for tanking teams that had
Speaker 1: every reason to keep him off the court for as
Speaker 1: long as they could. Again, I'm a big believer in
Speaker 1: AD when he's healthy, and I think there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things. He's reached a point where he's so heavy
Speaker 1: and so late in his career that I do actually
Speaker 1: legitimately have issues about his concerns about his ability to
Speaker 1: stay healthy. But two, once again, I think the best
Speaker 1: indicator of future performance is past performance. And it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to rely on past performance for Ad because
Speaker 1: he's been such a non factor in the league for
Speaker 1: the last two seasons, and that just puts him in
Speaker 1: a situation where again, he made our list. He he
Speaker 1: was outside of the top thirty two, but he made
Speaker 1: our list. He's a guy that I certainly think, when
Speaker 1: he's healthy and everything comes together, is capable of being
Speaker 1: a deeply impactful player. But I just can't put him
Speaker 1: high on these rankings when he's played so little over
Speaker 1: the last two years. And again, you're right, it's not
Speaker 1: all his fault. The tanking teams have been involved, but
Speaker 1: he's also been hurt. And I'm curious to see, you know,
Speaker 1: if he can kind of rehab his reputation this year.
Speaker 1: But let's call it what it is. If Ad goes
Speaker 1: out play seventy games this year and looks great, he
Speaker 1: will be rehabbing his image. It's not like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is just what he's been No, no, no, he will be
Speaker 1: rehabbing his image if he's able to do that. This
Speaker 1: season made it until twelve minutes, made it twelve minutes
Speaker 1: until Jalen Johnson, who averaged twenty two to ten and
Speaker 1: eight at twenty four years old, is not even an
Speaker 1: honorable mention. Won't listen to the rest. But no way
Speaker 1: in the world he doesn't make their honorable mention for
Speaker 1: Top twenty five. I'm gonna give whoever this is another
Speaker 1: opportunity to send a message for next week's mail bag.
Speaker 1: Tell me who you replace any honorable mention, right, Like
Speaker 1: I certainly don't have to have him over any of
Speaker 1: the top twenty five guys. But my honorable mentions are
Speaker 1: Denny Avdia, who I view as one of the better
Speaker 1: It just flat out a way better offensive player than
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson. And by the way, Jalen Johnson is just
Speaker 1: like a bad defensive player. Jay Dubb who again had
Speaker 1: a forty point Finals game, Evan Mobley, Pascal Siakam, the second
Speaker 1: player on the finals team literally two years ago, Dylan
Speaker 1: Harper you could argue he was this first second best
Speaker 1: player in the NBA Finals this year, Steph Castle, who
Speaker 1: is the guy who literally played Shay into one of
Speaker 1: the worst playoff series for an MVP ever. And then
Speaker 1: Pala Boncaro, like, who are you arguing Jalen Johnson over
Speaker 1: in that list? Like I just I make the case
Speaker 1: for me, Like I like Jalen Johnson, I believe in him.
Speaker 1: There's certain things in his game that are starting to
Speaker 1: turn around. I certainly think he has potential to be
Speaker 1: a great. But like to me, I've always consistently been
Speaker 1: a little bit lower than consensus on Jalen Johnson because
Speaker 1: specifically his issues as a half court offensive initiator and
Speaker 1: as a defensive player at large. Those are the two
Speaker 1: things that prevent me from getting as high on him
Speaker 1: as his box score numbers would lead you to believe
Speaker 1: in it. Box score is super impressive. But like again,
Speaker 1: and I've told people to do this as an exercise,
Speaker 1: write down your top twenty five. Just do it. Just
Speaker 1: do it and see how hard it is. It's hard
Speaker 1: because the talent in the league is insane. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson didn't make my top thirty two, but he
Speaker 1: did make my lists. Of all the candidates we considered
Speaker 1: for the top twenty five, I just couldn't argue I
Speaker 1: can't make a case for Jalen over any of those
Speaker 1: seven guys I just mentioned. Next question, I have a
Speaker 1: hard time believing LaMelo Ball is not a top thirty
Speaker 1: two player. I think he deserves an honorable mention at least.
Speaker 1: I know he's not your favorite player to watch, but
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know your reasoning for putting some of
Speaker 1: these other guys ahead of him when he's one of
Speaker 1: the best offensive engines in the league to do his elite playmaking.
Speaker 1: I think this upcoming Tea Will season will change your
Speaker 1: mind on him a bit of the show. So here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I It's true that I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: fan of LaMelo ball, but like I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you, guys, Like I don't really have players that
Speaker 1: I just decide I hate forever, Like it's it's not
Speaker 1: like that, It's never been that serious to me. And
Speaker 1: I also like, I don't know, like I don't know
Speaker 1: these dudes as like human beings, and I don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable just like having like a personal vendetta against a
Speaker 1: player that I don't haven't like sat down and spent
Speaker 1: time with and understand who they are as people. You
Speaker 1: have to have a pretty extensive track record of being
Speaker 1: an asshole for me to really feel that way about
Speaker 1: you as a basketball player. And you know, and there
Speaker 1: have been players that have won me over over the years,
Speaker 1: like I talked about it the other day with Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 1: Like Dylan Brooks as a player I used to not
Speaker 1: like because of several things that dirty plays, the attitude
Speaker 1: and like, he's just won me over, right, Like I
Speaker 1: grew up a Lebron fan. You don't think I had
Speaker 1: my issues with Steph Now he's my second favorite player.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have any personal vendetta against LaMelo. Not
Speaker 1: my favorite dude right now, but like I, I certainly
Speaker 1: think it's possible that he has a great season with
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves that changes my mind on him. Now, let's
Speaker 1: dig into it a little bit. I've talked about before.
Speaker 1: I do view him as one of the best offensive
Speaker 1: engines in the NBA. We broke down in detail when
Speaker 1: the trade went down and how I thought it was
Speaker 1: going to be a bigger loss to Charlotte than they're
Speaker 1: willing to admit. I want to actually bring in a
Speaker 1: take from Zachlow, who obviously I think is the best
Speaker 1: at what I do for a living. He's the very
Speaker 1: best at it and someone that I look up to
Speaker 1: a great deal. And it was a great honor to
Speaker 1: be on his show during the Western Conference Finals last year.
Speaker 1: Zachlow had a tweet right when LaMelo was traded that
Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting, and I'm paraphrasing here, but
Speaker 1: he basically said, like, I think the Hornets kind of
Speaker 1: looked at LaMelo and thought, look at how physical these
Speaker 1: defensive guards are in the playoffs. Look At what Steph
Speaker 1: Castle's doing to Shagos Alexander, what lou Georg's doing, what
Speaker 1: Cason Wallace is doing. The NBA playoffs are just a nasty,
Speaker 1: physical environment. And LaMelo is like kind of an upright
Speaker 1: skinny kind of like Lucy goosey dude, who certainly has
Speaker 1: a ton of talent and is one of the most
Speaker 1: impactful regular season players in the league, but like, do
Speaker 1: we think he's good enough to be the guy that
Speaker 1: can lead us through the trenches of physical playoff basketball
Speaker 1: for four rounds? And zach Low is basically pontificating that
Speaker 1: he thinks that was probably the reasoning behind Charlotte deciding
Speaker 1: to move on from him, even more than anything having
Speaker 1: to do with like his behavior for whatever you consider
Speaker 1: that in this debate. And when I when I saw
Speaker 1: Zach I think he tweeted that if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: it might have been it actually might have been a
Speaker 1: podcast you know where they like kind of send out
Speaker 1: a clip and pair like they you know, type out
Speaker 1: what he said. But when I saw that, I was like,
Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree, Like I think like if even though
Speaker 1: I believe in LaMelo's ability to create shots and why
Speaker 1: I valued him greatly in what he did for Charlotte
Speaker 1: last year. The two things for me that him off
Speaker 1: of my honorable mentions or one health He did have
Speaker 1: a healthy season, but overwhelmingly in his career he struggled
Speaker 1: to stay on the floor. That makes him for me,
Speaker 1: a the furthest thing from a safe bet to be
Speaker 1: able to navigate the season. And then secondly that piece
Speaker 1: from Zach, like, do I think that LaMelo is ready
Speaker 1: yet to be like the dead serious offensive engine dealing
Speaker 1: with physical ass kicking perimeter defenders for multiple rounds in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. No, I don't, at least not yet. I
Speaker 1: think he needs to be on the floor longer and
Speaker 1: be exposed to more high leverage basketball for him to
Speaker 1: be able to kind of experience that growth. One of
Speaker 1: the nice things about being in Minnesota is ant can
Speaker 1: very much help him with that. You're going to probably
Speaker 1: put your bigger more physical guard defender on ant, which
Speaker 1: should hopefully get Lamela ball some easier matchups in terms
Speaker 1: of facing skinnier, less talented perimeter defenders. But that, to
Speaker 1: me is a circumstance thing. And again, when we're talking
Speaker 1: about this list, I'm trying to view everything irrespective of
Speaker 1: surrounding circumstances. Big believer in LaMelo, But you know, when
Speaker 1: I look at top thirty two, like like, let's take,
Speaker 1: for example, what a guard I have above him in
Speaker 1: Dylan Harper. Like, I know Dylan's gonna play a shit
Speaker 1: ton of games this year. I know he can guard,
Speaker 1: I know he's serious, and I know that he can
Speaker 1: handle ball pressure, and I know that he can handle
Speaker 1: physical playoff basketball. He was literally one of the most reliable,
Speaker 1: probably the most reliable offensive guard for uh for San
Speaker 1: Antonio in that playoff run. So like, I just it's
Speaker 1: it's hard for even though I like, yeah, when LaMelo's
Speaker 1: at his absolute best, to see a better offensive engine
Speaker 1: than Dylan right now. Sure, But like that's just the
Speaker 1: whole point of NBA playoff basketball is it's the furthest
Speaker 1: thing from absolute best circumstances. But again, to be clear,
Speaker 1: like I said up top. I don't have any personal
Speaker 1: vendetta against LaMelo. Not my favorite dude, but like I'm
Speaker 1: always watching him with an open mind and certainly could
Speaker 1: change my opinion on him this year if he has
Speaker 1: a different type of season. Wow, we got a lot
Speaker 1: more to go. So I'm gonna start moving a little
Speaker 1: bit quicker here, guys. Next one, Avdia should be behind Harper,
Speaker 1: and i'd submit Game three is evidence no wemb is
Speaker 1: He takes over in the third quarter twenty seven points
Speaker 1: nine of twelve field goals to swing that game, while
Speaker 1: Denny has a hilariously unethical stat line nineteen points three
Speaker 1: for fifteen twelve for sixteen free throws. I understand Harper's
Speaker 1: context is way better, but if they switch roles, I
Speaker 1: think Harper would have an easier time replicating Denny's primary
Speaker 1: scoring than Denny matching Harper's two way impact in last playoffs.
Speaker 1: I just disagree with this. To be clear, I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a large gap there. If my honorable mentioned
Speaker 1: twenty six to thirty two or whatever it was, twenty
Speaker 1: six to thirty one, I think I had Harper. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying there's a chasm between the two. I think
Speaker 1: it's close. But a couple things. I do think Denny's
Speaker 1: just flat out a better offensive player than Dylan Harper.
Speaker 1: I think he's a sharper ball handler who is more
Speaker 1: of a physical presence when he's going downhill. That's why
Speaker 1: he gets a million free throws because he just comes
Speaker 1: screaming downhill at Yes, he does grifty stuff like all
Speaker 1: the dudes do. And I hate the grifty stuff with Denny,
Speaker 1: just like I hate it with Shay, just like I
Speaker 1: hate it with Luca, just like I hate it with
Speaker 1: all the guys. But like the foundational trait with Denny,
Speaker 1: that size and downhill athleticism combined with the playmaking. Denny
Speaker 1: is a guy that like competes on the defensive end
Speaker 1: of the floor. Like I'm just high on Denny, I like.
Speaker 1: But to be clear, Harper to me, he's close to him.
Speaker 1: They're in the same tier. There are only a few
Speaker 1: spots away from each other. But yeah, I disagree with
Speaker 1: the argument that you're making that Dylan Harper is better
Speaker 1: than Denny Avdi. I had Denny over him because I'm
Speaker 1: just a big believer in Denny. Next question unrelated, But
Speaker 1: I think you're breaking down Durant's Warriors versus MJ's Bowls
Speaker 1: would be incredibly enjoyable. I'm not gonna stay on this
Speaker 1: one long because we don't really have time, and it's
Speaker 1: not really the purpose of this mail bag, but I
Speaker 1: did have just a quick thought when I saw this.
Speaker 1: Very simply put to me, what made the Durant Warriors
Speaker 1: great was an insane amount of talent. They were the
Speaker 1: most talented roster in NBA history that also had a
Speaker 1: perfect fit with each other. All of those things. Jays
Speaker 1: Bulls were great, but I thought their dominance was more
Speaker 1: a product of a watered down league that led to
Speaker 1: high Like if you look around that era, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of high win totals because the league had
Speaker 1: expanded and there was just a lot more easier games
Speaker 1: on the schedule. So like to me, MJ's Bulls winning
Speaker 1: seventy two just wasn't as impressive as the Warriors winning
Speaker 1: seventy three as a regular season accomplishment. Obviously, the Bulls
Speaker 1: ended up hoisting the trophy, but again MJ's Bulls, you know,
Speaker 1: they win the title against that Sonics team, It's just
Speaker 1: not the same as going against prime Lebron James and
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, so like I I I think, and by
Speaker 1: the way, the Durant I should I should clarify the
Speaker 1: I was just comparing the seventy three win Warriors. The
Speaker 1: Durant Warriors won sixty seven games. But even then, I
Speaker 1: think that winning high sixties, low seventies in today's NBA
Speaker 1: is more impressive than winning high sixties, low seventies in
Speaker 1: the late nineties when the league wasn't as talented and
Speaker 1: it was more diluted and watered down. That is not
Speaker 1: an in any way shape or form, meant to say
Speaker 1: that them j Bowles weren't great. But to me, if
Speaker 1: you're asking who the greatest team of all time is,
Speaker 1: it's the twenty seventeen Warriors, and it's not close. It's
Speaker 1: not close. My question is, if Aaron Gordon didn't have
Speaker 1: the health concerns and degradation of his body that he
Speaker 1: currently does, would you put him an og in an
Speaker 1: Obie as equals. I feel like they're very similar players,
Speaker 1: the main difference being that og has put it all
Speaker 1: together a little earlier in his career, as opposed to
Speaker 1: Aaron who achieved excellent shooting but too late in his career.
Speaker 1: Slash post his physical prime. Thanks. I think OG's better
Speaker 1: than Aaron Gordon. To be clear, I do think that
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon would be one of those forwards like we
Speaker 1: talked about, like Jaden McDaniels, like Pascal Siakam that has
Speaker 1: like real near fringe star level impact as a role
Speaker 1: player if he could have stayed healthy. The thing that
Speaker 1: really turned things around for Aaron Gordon is he just
Speaker 1: became a knockdown three point shooter. But it was right
Speaker 1: around the time that he became a knockdown three point
Speaker 1: shooter that his body started breaking down. It's your point.
Speaker 1: If he had put that together earlier and had the
Speaker 1: knockdown three point shot and everything else he did when
Speaker 1: he was younger and more capable of staying on the floor,
Speaker 1: I think he would be, you know, an honorable mention
Speaker 1: or certainly in our top fifty. The you know, the
Speaker 1: fifty one to fifty two players, whatever it was that
Speaker 1: we considered for this list, still have a bunch more
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna try to move through these quickly. How
Speaker 1: would you build around Cooper Flag What player slash archetype
Speaker 1: of player would you pair with him to have the
Speaker 1: best chance of success? For the future. Honestly, I think
Speaker 1: whenever I'm dealing with like a versatile forward as a
Speaker 1: star foundational player, I want an awesome scoring guard next
Speaker 1: to him, and like Kyrie, I actually think this year,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to watch the MAVs this year. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. I'm as high on Kyrie
Speaker 1: as any player as you'll find. By the way, Kyrie
Speaker 1: is actually another player that should have been on my
Speaker 1: that should have been on my top fifty list, I
Speaker 1: think if I can't remember, but I might have forgot
Speaker 1: to put him on that list as well. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have him in the top thirty two in the Honorable
Speaker 1: Mention coming off of a knee injury where he's missed
Speaker 1: an entire season, where now he's in his early thirty
Speaker 1: early thirties posts another serious knee injury, Like I think
Speaker 1: there's enough question marks to keep him off the Honorable
Speaker 1: Mention list, but he certainly should be in that next
Speaker 1: grouping there. Like, I think he's a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot better than Brandon Ingram, for example. But I think
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is an amazing fit with Cooper Flag and
Speaker 1: that type of player is the kind of guy that
Speaker 1: I'd be looking for as a long term fit alongside
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag, a really high level scoring guard. Hi Jason
Speaker 1: loved the show. Do you think a couple We had
Speaker 1: several check questions. Do you think chet ceiling is directly
Speaker 1: impacted by Okac's commitment to using him primarily as a four.
Speaker 1: He started his career at the five with big Jalen
Speaker 1: Williams as the only center on the roster. I thought
Speaker 1: he was able to take advantage more off the dribble,
Speaker 1: and his slow release was compensated for by Biggs being
Speaker 1: the primary closeout defenders right gives him more time. Okay
Speaker 1: see used to spam those flare screens for trail threes,
Speaker 1: which we rarely see now. During that rookie season, the
Speaker 1: MAVs series kind of exposed some of the flaws in
Speaker 1: him primarily playing at the five. He was bad rebounder
Speaker 1: as a solo big, and they were able to put
Speaker 1: a wing on Chet while camping on Big lou Dort.
Speaker 1: That camping a big on lou Dort, That's where we
Speaker 1: first experienced Chet's hesitancy with his slow release. Now, some
Speaker 1: OKAC fans frustrations with the team committing to a Demara
Speaker 1: and Tamas Sorber is that they'll never really see Chet
Speaker 1: at the five again. Okaysee has four centers on their roster,
Speaker 1: and while the counter to that is this poor rebounding
Speaker 1: as a solo big and his mobility regression at the
Speaker 1: hip injury were the reasons for this shift, it also
Speaker 1: puts a lot of pressure on him as he'll always
Speaker 1: be matched up against a specific archetype of player like
Speaker 1: a Pascal Siakam that he's had trouble getting his offensive
Speaker 1: game off against. This is a really good question, a
Speaker 1: very interesting one to get into, and it goes back
Speaker 1: to something that I said a long time ago, which is,
Speaker 1: okay See, there is a path that you know, presented
Speaker 1: itself where it was like do we need to get
Speaker 1: a center next to Chet or do we need to
Speaker 1: get a power forward next to Check? And I would
Speaker 1: argue just to both, like That's the frustrating part is like,
Speaker 1: how about instead of having for centers, we look for
Speaker 1: a forward to be able to play alongside Chet, or
Speaker 1: trade for a forward to be able to put alongside Chet,
Speaker 1: And maybe they end up doing that at some point
Speaker 1: this season. I've thought they've struggled with perimeter size a
Speaker 1: lot over the last couple of years in general. But
Speaker 1: like again, if you're looking for assistance in rebounding. For example,
Speaker 1: let's pretend Aaron Gordon is on the Thunder. If Chet
Speaker 1: gets pushed under the rim, or he leaves his feet
Speaker 1: to block a shot or has to step over to
Speaker 1: make a rotation, you want to have another six' nine six'
Speaker 1: ten athletic dude who can come flying in to help
Speaker 1: clean up the, defensive glass or that can help you
Speaker 1: with some Of, the okay this guy's a, power big
Speaker 1: let's move, You Know aaron gordon or this other power
Speaker 1: forward over to. Help right the problem WITH the okac
Speaker 1: build is it's basically a bunch of guards in a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of centers that's basically the team construct Of, the thunder
Speaker 1: and so they don't have a lot of versatility in
Speaker 1: the way they. Can play they can play small with
Speaker 1: one center and basically four guards on, the floor or
Speaker 1: they can play big with two centers and three guards on.
Speaker 1: The floor even, their wings They're like ford, sized wings
Speaker 1: where like you know six six JDub or Six Six,
Speaker 1: Aaron wiggins like they don't, have uh like the six
Speaker 1: eight six' nine six' ten two hundred and thirty two
Speaker 1: hundred forty two hundred and fifty pound massive power Forward
Speaker 1: that could allow chet to play at the five more,
Speaker 1: and to your point potentially put them In more situations
Speaker 1: where chet could benefit from playing. Against slower footed centers
Speaker 1: AND so, that's where, I think you know i Feel
Speaker 1: Stupid here criticizing sam presty because HE'S arguably the best.
Speaker 1: Gm in, the league but like if There's one thing
Speaker 1: that I've Disagreed with with sam pressI over, the last
Speaker 1: few Years it's been the they've just never gone. After
Speaker 1: that forward archetype it's just been something, they've been uninterested,
Speaker 1: in to your point just doubling. Down ON center depth
Speaker 1: and i guess the idea Is they just think chet
Speaker 1: will become the. Four for this team, and, my thing
Speaker 1: is again even if you, saw it that way why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you present yourself like it Was abundantly clear that
Speaker 1: chet was gonna spend time, at the five regardless why
Speaker 1: not put yourself in a situation where you have that
Speaker 1: look that. You can go to, we have, A big physical,
Speaker 1: look i should clarify we Have a look, where chet's
Speaker 1: the five but we're, also big and physical and it
Speaker 1: just kind of feels like a missed opportunity and. It's
Speaker 1: not too late maybe they end up making that sort.
Speaker 1: OF move this season a couple Quick Ones here was austin.
Speaker 1: Reeves primarily health related I'm Assuming he means austin. Raeves
Speaker 1: not being, Included through his career he's been durable and
Speaker 1: advanced offensive numbers early last season show it had him
Speaker 1: firmly in. The top ten scores not quite as good
Speaker 1: a passer as, some of his contemporaries and doesn't have
Speaker 1: The Same gravity As, steph shae or wemby, but a
Speaker 1: lethal scorer very efficient getting the. LINE knocking them down
Speaker 1: i understand his, playoff struggles in defense but he has
Speaker 1: gotten exponentially better at, both through the years and there's
Speaker 1: no reason to assume you won't get better at absolutely,
Speaker 1: everything again this season as he. Has his whole career
Speaker 1: i'm as Big a believer in. Austin as you'll find
Speaker 1: i've rooted for him the. ENTIRETY of his career i,
Speaker 1: just THINK he's awesome and i have defended him as
Speaker 1: he's received, a lot Of criticism. Even from liker fans
Speaker 1: but it's the. Combination of the health he just physically,
Speaker 1: broke down last season and there has been a, little bit,
Speaker 1: of like a hey can you figure out how to
Speaker 1: be a higher usage player more efficiently in the postseason
Speaker 1: thing that. HASN'T really come around i don't really give
Speaker 1: him too much blame for. What happened last, year first
Speaker 1: of all just look at Like A guy like devin
Speaker 1: booker and how much He. Struggled Against the thunder the
Speaker 1: thunder chew up, And spit out guards it's. Just What
Speaker 1: THEY do and austin i thought was better than It
Speaker 1: looked against the thunder considering the amount of points, he
Speaker 1: generated on offense despite the level of difficulty it is
Speaker 1: for a guard to score or to draw or to
Speaker 1: generate Good looks. Against THAT thunder defense do i Think
Speaker 1: it's possible, that austin goes out has a great season
Speaker 1: and makes our honorable mention slash top? Twenty five, next
Speaker 1: season hell yeah Super. Big believer in austin it is,
Speaker 1: very much, a possibility but again best indicator of. FUTURE
Speaker 1: performances past performance i haven't seen anything yet that justifies
Speaker 1: me putting him IN that, High but i again. I'm
Speaker 1: Rooting for him love austin. Certainly Think, It's possibility, all
Speaker 1: right four more what's been your? Favorite season this decade
Speaker 1: where do you think Next season, will rig last season
Speaker 1: by far was my favorite season of MY. Time covering
Speaker 1: the nba it, Just WAS a blast, like i, got
Speaker 1: everything you know like obviously rooting for My. FAVORITE player
Speaker 1: and lebron I Got to see lebron james be the
Speaker 1: best player on a team that. Won. A playoff series
Speaker 1: again i thought the intrigue throughout. The season was fantastic
Speaker 1: the playoff run was just riveting, From start to finish
Speaker 1: like that was just the bad as The peak of
Speaker 1: what i've experienced doing. THIS for a living i think
Speaker 1: next season has a chance to be better with all
Speaker 1: the player movement and the continued intrigue at the. Top
Speaker 1: Of the league This lebron move to. PHILLY is profoundly
Speaker 1: interesting i think we probably will see another big. STAR
Speaker 1: traded this season i just think this is going to
Speaker 1: be an incredibly. Fascinating season coming up do you think
Speaker 1: any of this year's rookies? Make, NEXT year's. LIST no
Speaker 1: i don't i think a combination of the top of
Speaker 1: the league is too talented for them to crack TWO
Speaker 1: as much as i like all, four of those dudes
Speaker 1: all of. Them ARE pretty flawed Like I don't think
Speaker 1: aj debonsa has the feel For The game. THAT cooper
Speaker 1: flagg has i think that's going to prevent him from.
Speaker 1: Being Great RIGHT away darren peterson i just don't think has.
Speaker 1: A High enough, ceiling kayleb wilson does but he's further away.
Speaker 1: From Getting To, IT and cam boozer i just can't
Speaker 1: see a universe where he's good enough this season to.
Speaker 1: Be TOP twenty five so i. LIKE all four guys
Speaker 1: i think all four guys have a. Lot OF exciting
Speaker 1: potential do i. THINK that they could i think there's
Speaker 1: a good chance that all four of them are in
Speaker 1: the top twenty. Five Within five years but i'd be
Speaker 1: shocked if one of those four guys was in my top.
Speaker 1: Twenty five next SEASON we'll see if i end up
Speaker 1: eating my words. When we, Get there two more here
Speaker 1: is My. BASKETBALL case against chet i respect her be,
Speaker 1: ball opinion a lots and don't take, this the wrong
Speaker 1: way but what? Is chet doing here man offense that was,
Speaker 1: in all caps offensively he cannot get his own shot,
Speaker 1: against good quality defenders and even as a play finisher
Speaker 1: outside his hands being good, in the restricted area he
Speaker 1: misses so many jump shots that efficiency can look good because,
Speaker 1: he is so passive and as a. DEFENDER he is
Speaker 1: value i won't dispute that because he, has, so much
Speaker 1: coverage versatility being able to play and drop, and at
Speaker 1: the level. And he can switch but He got dogged
Speaker 1: by wemby in The finals. LAST year conference finals i
Speaker 1: don't think his defense was a top three contributing factor For.
Speaker 1: Them beating the Pacers, Even, against the nuggets sure, they
Speaker 1: played yokicchen too one, of His worst series and chet was,
Speaker 1: a part of that but again he wasn't the, main
Speaker 1: part of it as it was their wings The hell
Speaker 1: Out Of jokic and isaiah hartenstein was the one Banging
Speaker 1: with him hel prest he brought in iHeart because. Of
Speaker 1: that very reason so my Basketball case is that CHET is,
Speaker 1: a good nba player probably should have been in your,
Speaker 1: thirty to forty range and the top twenty five guys
Speaker 1: should have been reserved for guys who an impact winning,
Speaker 1: at the highest. Level irregardless OF matchup love the, Og
Speaker 1: pick for example i'm going to leave you with two
Speaker 1: stats to kind of like defend of My decision to
Speaker 1: put SHED up because AGAIN i, said what i said
Speaker 1: which is that chet like as a vertical spacer and
Speaker 1: a guy who can knock. Down wide open threes but
Speaker 1: that is just simply one of the very best defensive.
Speaker 1: Anchors in the league you could argue he was The
Speaker 1: second best non wemby DEFENDER in the, entire NBA last
Speaker 1: year and i acknowledged that he had a pretty rough Defensive,
Speaker 1: series against. THE spurs getting overpowered i think there's some,
Speaker 1: room for improvement there but. A couple of things as
Speaker 1: much As He, SUCKED against san antonio i think it'll.
Speaker 1: BE good for him i think he needs to change
Speaker 1: some things in his game with his physicality on defense
Speaker 1: and was speeding up the way he plays both in
Speaker 1: his jump shot released but also just how quickly he.
Speaker 1: ATTACKS off the catch i think he's going to take
Speaker 1: the humiliation of that whole endeavor and turn IT into
Speaker 1: motivation and i think he's gonna. Have a great season
Speaker 1: but HERE are the numbers i wanted. TO show with you.
Speaker 1: I share with you he was the third best Plus
Speaker 1: minus Guy After. Shay And alex crusoe that thunder defense
Speaker 1: got nine points worse when he. Stepped off the floor
Speaker 1: that to me Is a fascinating STAT this is an
Speaker 1: okac team that is known for. Depth Of defensive talent
Speaker 1: isaia hartenstein is a. Very good defensive center they are
Speaker 1: chock full. Of elite perimeter defenders there is an extremely
Speaker 1: strong defensive infrastructure even, from coaching and culture and yet
Speaker 1: the defense fell off of a cliff when chet. Was,
Speaker 1: off the floor again that's all of that utility wrapped up.
Speaker 1: Into a single number his ability. To protect the rim
Speaker 1: You even mentioned, The jokic thing Again jokic fries at
Speaker 1: hartenstein up if there's not another rim. Protecting center behind
Speaker 1: him check to me in his ability to truly protect,
Speaker 1: the rim without fouling but also switch out onto the
Speaker 1: perimeter just makes him foundationally one of the BEST. Centers
Speaker 1: in the nba last, Number or last question you're Going
Speaker 1: to include THREE knicks and three okc thunder in the top?
Speaker 1: Twenty five by default that Would have to, make wemby
Speaker 1: number one considering he made the finals with no one
Speaker 1: else in. The, Top twenty five right i'm not going
Speaker 1: to share who. MY number ONE is i still i,
Speaker 1: have A preliminary list but i'm not recording that video
Speaker 1: for probably, another week, or Two MAYBE three and i'm
Speaker 1: i reserve the. Right TO change it so i don't
Speaker 1: know who's going. TO be number one i have a
Speaker 1: guy in mind that, you GUYS will see but i
Speaker 1: don't know who's going. To be number one wemby is.
Speaker 1: Certainly in the running it doesn't have anything to do, with. What,
Speaker 1: you're Describing though yes the knicks have three guys in,
Speaker 1: the top twenty five so do the Thunder. So do the,
Speaker 1: sixers BUT to me the i ALWAYS talk about how
Speaker 1: i split. These guys into tiers my top five guys are.
Speaker 1: MY top tier superstars i think they're all. Separated, by very,
Speaker 1: little like for instance you guys can All probably guess that,
Speaker 1: yannis will BE five right because i have him as
Speaker 1: the worst as the top. Five Top tier superstars if yiannis,
Speaker 1: is healthy this year, play seventy five games there's no
Speaker 1: there's nothing that says that he can't be the best.
Speaker 1: Player in the world there's not a huge gap Between
Speaker 1: healthy in rhythm yiannis and whoever you. Think is number
Speaker 1: one there's no gap there going to the second tier guys,
Speaker 1: like that's another one you guys can be Pretty sure
Speaker 1: of because i've talked about it multiple. Times On the
Speaker 1: show jalen brunson is going to be my best. NON
Speaker 1: top tier superstar i don't think there's A Huge gap
Speaker 1: between jalen brunson and like A Huge gap between Jalen Brunson,
Speaker 1: and LIKE tyrese maxi who i, Had At Number seventeen
Speaker 1: like jalen, brunson is clearly better but it's not like
Speaker 1: there's a giant gap between, The two of them like
Speaker 1: there's that, Whole tier of players so from the top
Speaker 1: player on that tier to the one of the last,
Speaker 1: PLAYERS on that tier i just don't think there's. Much,
Speaker 1: of A gap Similarly Like i Have Steph castle and
Speaker 1: dylan harper at, THIRTY and thirty one i don't think
Speaker 1: there's a huge Gap Between. THEM and donovan mitchell i
Speaker 1: don't think there's a huge gap between Those Two. Guys
Speaker 1: AND devin Booker Like i Think Steph castle and. Dylan harper,
Speaker 1: are awesome so yeah they don't have anybody else in,
Speaker 1: the top Twenty five but the spurs did have three
Speaker 1: guys in, my top thirty, two and to me the
Speaker 1: top thirty two was like the real partition from the
Speaker 1: rest Of the league. That i'm separating off we stick
Speaker 1: with top twenty five because it's a round number and
Speaker 1: it's what. We DO every year but i approached the
Speaker 1: list with an open mind in that way TO where
Speaker 1: that's why. I PUT thirty two like i had to comment,
Speaker 1: in the, first, video it's like oh it's not, really
Speaker 1: top twenty five. It's, top thirty, two, yeah you're right
Speaker 1: well it. Is top twenty five I've just put in
Speaker 1: i'm putting in like So much research that i'm accumulating.
Speaker 1: Guys INTO these groups and i had THIRTY two players
Speaker 1: that i truly considered for, the Top twenty five and,
Speaker 1: i'd like so, say take for, example number Twenty Five.
Speaker 1: WHICH is cooper flag I don't think there's i had, a,
Speaker 1: question that Was like Who Do why Is Cooper. Flag
Speaker 1: over dylan harper we're not going to, get to, IT
Speaker 1: today but like i don't think there's A Big gap
Speaker 1: Between Cooper. FLAG and dylan harper i, think there's, a
Speaker 1: tiny tiny gap and that's from number thirty one. To number, twenty,
Speaker 1: five so again like is one being? Running, for number one.
Speaker 1: Yes he certainly is you'll see, when we GET there
Speaker 1: but like I don't view the spurs as. A talent
Speaker 1: deficient roster i think they have one of the most TALENTED.
Speaker 1: Rosters in, the, nba all RIGHT guys that's all i
Speaker 1: have for today is always a sincerely appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: for supporting us. And supporting the show we Will be
Speaker 1: back on monday with our. NEXT batch of rankings i think.
Speaker 1: That's sixteen fifteen fourteen i'll see you guys then