1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Of course. Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Halo Territory. I am Mike Digievanna, former La Times Baseball 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: writer and host of the show, and I'm joined by 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: my regular co host Mark Trumbo, the former Angel slugger Mark. 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: How are you doing today? 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: What's up? 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: DJ? And if you're watching us on YouTube, you might 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: see a new face there in the middle. Her name 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: is Breezy Nolan. Breezy, Welcome to the show. 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm doing great? Thanks for having me. 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Well, we're glad to have you. In an effort to 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: add some more fan perspective to Halo Territory, we're going 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: to have folks like Breezy join the show every now 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: and then. So, Breezy, how long have you been an 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Angels fan and what got you hooked on this team? Oh? 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: Man, my dad has been a season ticket holder since 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: two thousand and My first memory of actually being at 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: an Angels game was Game seven of when the Angels 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: won the World Series. So it's been a long time. 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: So as the old song says, good, good times, bad times, 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: you have seen them all. The Angels were for a 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: solid decade or more one of the best teams in Baseball, 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: the World Series title in two thousand and two, six 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: division titles from two thousand and four to twenty fourteen. Lately, lately, 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: it's been a rough go of It was a ten 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: straight losing seasons, eleven year playoff drought. How tough is 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: it being an Angels fan right now? 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: It's it's pretty hard being an Angels fan, But I 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: think it's worse being an Angels season ticket holder. I 30 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 3: get more like hate on Twitter about being a season 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: ticket holder than I do about being a fan or 32 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 3: like anything else that I say, because they just see 33 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: it as like we're giving money to Artie, and I 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: keep having to explain to them, like we have these 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: seats for so long that if we decide to give 36 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: it up, we go back in line, and you know, 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: like our seats are right in front of the ondeck 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: circle in the Diamond Club, and I don't think that 39 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: there's any better seat in the stadium, and so it's like, sure, 40 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: I would love to, you know, not be giving Arty money, 41 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: but I also don't want to give up our seats, 42 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: so excuse me. So essentially, I mean, we have to 43 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: just bite the bullet. For the past few years of 44 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: like if one of us can use our tickets. I 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: post them on step hub and like at you know what, 46 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: we end up buying them for and people wait until 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: day of so that way we drop the ticket prices 48 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: way down and then they'll buy them and sometimes they 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: don't even buy them. And that happens all the time 50 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: for season ticket holders. Right now, like it's it's pretty brutal. 51 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's uplifting. On maybe a little bit lighter note. Today, 52 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Bill Shakan wrote an article on Zach Netto and there's 53 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: a quote from Zach. We all know and we all 54 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: believe that if we play with each other, and if 55 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: we play how we want to play, there's nobody that 56 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: can beat us. How excited does this get you about 57 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: the Angel's young core when you see a quote like 58 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: this from what appears to be the emerging face of 59 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: the franchise. 60 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: You know, I think that they want people to show up. 61 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: I think that they're feeding off of the crowd's energy. 62 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: I think that they've all, you know, talked about going 63 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: to other stadiums, especially Dodger Stadium, and you know the 64 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: electricity of playing there because of the crowd, And I 65 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: think that they're willing to say whatever they need to 66 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: say to make people come to the stadium. You know, 67 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 3: they don't want to play poorly. They want to show 68 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: up and you know, play as best as they can 69 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: so that probably hopefully they can go to a different team. 70 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: You know. That's that's what I think that he's trying 71 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: to do. I don't think it, actually, I don't think 72 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: he believes any of it. Yeah, if anyone's believing that, 73 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 3: I mean they're they are just as divisional as Artie 74 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: Marino is. 75 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: You know, very ambitious statement by the young shortstop. I 76 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: will say that, But then you look at last year 77 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: and they go six and zero against the Dodgers, and 78 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Angels were playing their game, they could 79 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: beat anybody. But the problem is most teams can't put 80 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: together six straight days of great baseball, let alone six 81 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: straight months. And sure, when any team plays its best 82 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: baseball for a period of time, you can probably beat 83 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: anybody if you have the pitching. But I think the 84 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: whole issue, We've talked about it on the show before 85 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: is depth. You know, you get on a hot street, great, 86 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: a couple of guys go down with injuries, who's the 87 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: six through nine or ten in your rotation? Who's the 88 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: four through eight in your bullpen? Who's coming in to 89 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: play first base? If Nolan Shanwell gets hurt, who's playing shortstop? 90 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: If Zach Netto gets hurt, who's playing third base? Period? 91 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, these are all things ye with this team 92 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: that I just I see so many issues with. But 93 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, by the same token, the young core does 94 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: have some talent, and zach Neto is He's one of 95 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: the top five short young young shortstops in the game 96 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: right now. And I think maybe because he's been around 97 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: a little too long, not too long, but so long, 98 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: that he's not really deemed part of that young core. 99 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: We can't ignore Joe Adell, who had a career year 100 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: last year. He's only twenty six and it took a 101 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: long long time for him to get here. But if 102 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: he can build on that year, if he you know, 103 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's another thirty home one hundred 104 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: rb RBI year, but if he can boost his ops, 105 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: reduce his strikeouts, you know, repeat another year like this. 106 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I think, you know, they at least have a couple 107 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: of players you can build around now. Breezy Artie Marino 108 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: made some waves last week. I don't know, if you 109 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: heard when he claimed, citing internal surveys, that wordability was 110 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: the top priority for Angel fans and winning wasn't even 111 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: in the top five. Do you remember getting any kind 112 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: of surveys that asked these types of questions. 113 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've definitely received season ticket holder surveys. And you know, 114 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: I was thinking about this a little bit this morning, 115 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: knowing that I was going to be doing this podcast 116 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: and reading his list. I think he has like a 117 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: serious vendetta against the Dodgers. And if my season tickets 118 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: were at the Dodgers Stadium right now, they would be 119 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: probably like four times the amount. And so it's almost 120 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: to me like he so badly wants to like let 121 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: everyone know that he's better because tickets are way I 122 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: think you guys even talked about this like they're cheaper there. 123 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: It's not less expensive at this point, like it's a 124 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: cheaper experience. But I think it's this weird vendetta with 125 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: with the Dodgers and I mean the Padres, but being 126 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: a season ticket holder, I have so many Dodger fans 127 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: surrounding me when we're not even playing the Dodgers, and 128 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: I asked them, like, what are you guys doing here, 129 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, you know, tickets are just really 130 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: expensive at Dodgers Stadium. So if we want to go 131 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: see a baseball game, we've come here. You know, we 132 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: get front row for a hundred bucks at this stadium. 133 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: Why would we? You know? So, I think and Mark 134 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: already is a marketing genius. You know, his career was 135 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: doing billboards, and I think that is his way of 136 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: still trying to get money in his pocket and you know, 137 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: letting everyone know we're still affordable. But yeah, this this 138 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: picture is one of the screenshots I posted a few 139 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: years ago on Twitter from a survey, and yeah, I 140 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: definitely wasn't holding back. But to me, it's like, you know, 141 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: I don't even think that the team performance should have 142 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: been third. I think it should have been first, because 143 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, if the team's performing well, 144 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: then I could resell our tickets easily. And I mean, 145 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: the benefits are they're all right. But you know, I 146 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: shared this with you, Mike, that other stadiums. I'm into 147 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: a lot of other stadiums, and they have much better 148 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: perks if you're a season ticket holder that we don't have. 149 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: But I don't think that that's necessarily a bonus. I 150 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: think team performance should have been chop priority. And I 151 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: think there's another screenshot as well. 152 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got this for those listening on audio, to 153 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: what extent do you agree or disagree with the following statements. 154 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: The Angels are headed in the right direction on the field, 155 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: The Angels have a positive influence on the local community. 156 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: The Angels care about their season seat holders. I'm excited 157 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: about the players in the Angel minor league system. And 158 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: you said this was from twenty twenty four, And yeah, 159 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: if you're watching on YouTube, you can see a pretty 160 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: good trend here bringing you you strongly disagreed with all 161 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: of those statements. Yeah, fair to say you're not too 162 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: enthused about things along those lines. 163 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but so that's my point of Like, 164 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: I think the way that he worded things in that 165 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: interview he used they make really like they're the questions 166 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: are really not confusing, but they're misleading. They're trying I 167 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: feel like they're trying to get people to click certain things. 168 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: So it's like, sure, if it's a mom who never 169 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: goes to games, or she goes to games for her kids, 170 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: like she's not going to care about certain questions like this, 171 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: and or it's just that's not really their priority. That's 172 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: not they don't care. They don't even know what the 173 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: minor league team looks like. Right, But then of course 174 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: he can use that and be like, see, our fans 175 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: actually don't care about what's going on. So but I 176 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: think he definitely is using mis leading questions. 177 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: As far as you recall, and you've been a season 178 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: ticket holder for a long time, spending a lot of 179 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: money with the team, do you recall any survey where hey, 180 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: what are your top five priorities, you know, winning, affordability, 181 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You never got a survey like that. 182 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: No, No, but I think that they, you know, they 183 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: can figure based off of those types of weird answers 184 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: and then say, oh, well, you know they care about this, 185 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: and it's yeah. 186 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: Well interesting stuff. You know, it would be nice to 187 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: know if that is the survey in question, and all 188 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: fairness to all parties, but because it's the only one 189 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: I believe I have seen, we have to assume it 190 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: probably is seems very generic, and if that is the reflection, 191 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: then you know, there it is it, and you know, 192 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: maybe there is a lot of truth to season ticket 193 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: holders and hardcore. You know, people buy season tickets, I 194 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: think for a wide range of reasons, whether it's for 195 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: their company, for their own entertainment, for whatever. So maybe 196 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: there is a broader net of fans. But I think 197 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: on this show, the people that would be listening to 198 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: a baseball podcast covering the Angels are not the casual fans, 199 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: So very little of that probably resonates if we could 200 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: maybe get back to a slightly better or uplifting topic. 201 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: But so far in spring, have any players really stood 202 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: out for you and looked like they're doing a really 203 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: good job, you know, on the offensive side or or 204 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: the pitching side. And I need a prediction from you, 205 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: as you know a strong Angels fan, which player from 206 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: the most recent twenty twenty five draft. I'll say Chase 207 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Shores is going to be my pick, but we'll make 208 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: their debut first. Who do you think will it be Bremner, Shores, 209 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: Nate Sneid the power reliever? Do you have a prediction 210 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: word with Mike? 211 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I would say I would say Nate. 212 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Nate Sures Yeah. Yeah. I think you don't want to 213 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: rush the starting pitchers to the big leagues. And even 214 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: though Bremner even though Bremner and Class them may be 215 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: closer per se than the two relievers. I just think 216 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: you want to bring them along slowly. You want them 217 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: to develop, you want them to gain maturity, command, durability. 218 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: You don't want to rush them up to the big 219 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: leads and get their brain speed in. But I think 220 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: with these relievers, and Shores and Snead especially, I mean 221 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: you think back to two thousand and two. Frankie Rodriguez 222 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: is what nineteen when he came up and impacted that 223 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: team in September. Shores and Snead were major college pitchers 224 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: at LSU and I believe Wichita State. Both of these 225 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: kids have pitched in really high leverage environments, you know, 226 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: the College World Series. They're pitching in much shorter bursts. 227 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: I think with guys like that, I think it'd be 228 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: good for them to at least come up in the 229 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: second half, whether you're contending or not, to sort of 230 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: get their field, get their feet wet, get the field 231 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: of big leagues, you know, be around a big league environment, 232 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: because these are two arms that could impact this bullpen 233 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: in the future for sure. And as far as position players, 234 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what games you're watching Mark, but I 235 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen many games on my TV, but. 236 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: I will say I. 237 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: Did watch yesterday's game with the Dodgers. Yeah, I did 238 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: watch that. 239 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: I thought there were some some actual highlights. I thought 240 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: Nelson Rada for whatever reason, probably because we know the 241 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: answer to it, but I haven't seen a lot of coverage, 242 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: but he looked a lot more physical to me than 243 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: all the reports I've read. Everything has made him out 244 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: to be somewhat of a undersized I know he's very 245 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: young too, but he looked the part. He looked like 246 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: he is a ballplayer. He had a more muscular build 247 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: than you know, everything that I have read, and he 248 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: looked very comfortable leading off two walks, nice drag bunt, 249 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: bass hit, and he looked like a very strong arm 250 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: playing right field, so that was a He made a 251 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: nice stole and base as well, really good impression there. 252 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: And then o'hapi with a nice at bat ending up 253 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: in a home run. And Praso had some very nice 254 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: at bats resulting in solid contact twice, and he played 255 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: a really nice short stuff. So I believe he would 256 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: be my pick two back up netto at this point. 257 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, for us, it does look good to me as well. 258 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: In the action I have seen and from what I've read, 259 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: Mike Trout got down first base in a pretty like 260 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: as fast as time in two years the other day, 261 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: which is to me both encouraging and somewhat concerning. Encouraging 262 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: because that must mean the guy feels pretty darn good. 263 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: A little concerning because I'm not sure I want him 264 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: open up the throttle this early in spring training. I 265 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: think the last time he ran that time is when 266 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: he heard his knee a couple of years ago. So, uh, 267 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, having Mike back, when we've talked about on 268 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: the show before, having him back in center field doesn't 269 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: solve all your problems, but it certainly, uh you know, 270 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: improves that defensive alignment in that outfield when you can 271 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: move Joe Adele on the right breesing anyone catching your 272 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: eye so far the spring. 273 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, Logan's bat seems like he's 274 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: finally figuring out a little bit. It was so brutal 275 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: watching him last year, and it was so funny. I 276 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: was listening to twenty of Your Guys's episodes and with 277 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: their new hitting coach, and he said something along the 278 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: lines of like everyone was giving Logan tips on hitting, 279 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 3: and I will never forget there's this guy sitting in 280 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: like a few rows behind me to the left last 281 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: season and he was hammered and he was just screaming 282 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: at Logan like you know, you need to wait for 283 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: this pitch, you need to you know, telling him what 284 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: to do. And Logan just turned around and was like thanks, coach, 285 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, you know, like it normally 286 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: they never turn around, they don't say anything. And it 287 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: was like you could just tell he was so overhearing 288 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 3: people giving him tips and it's like, yeah, I'm well aware, 289 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: like shut up. And that guy was a season ticket holder, 290 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: so I'm curious if he'll be back. But yeah, I 291 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: think he looks a little bit more calm. And then 292 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Nelson Roda, I think he I 293 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: swilly and I talk about him all the time, like 294 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: we can't wait for him to be up. I think 295 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: he's going to make a big difference. I think he 296 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: has that same energy that Netto brought to the team 297 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: when he came up, of just firing everyone up and 298 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: you know, making them want to play harder. But yeah, 299 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: I feel I mean same thing. It's like it's hard 300 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: to follow much of spring training when yeah, they're not on. 301 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: So you mentioned Silly. I was going to ask about 302 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: her for fans. Many Angel fans are familiar with her. 303 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: She was an Angel's content creator and partly that into 304 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: a full time job with John Boy and Media, which 305 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: if you're a baseball fan, you know John Boy and 306 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: he's a lot of fun. He makes the game a 307 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: lot of fun. I got to give him credit. How 308 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: did you and Swilly first meet and how has that 309 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: relationship sort of evolved? 310 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: I had gone viral on Twitter because of Carlos' Steves 311 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: Is Grand Slam where we lost the game, and I 312 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: had said something on the lines of like please for 313 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: the love of God, and it went crazy viral on Twitter, 314 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 3: and she started following me, and I followed her and 315 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: she was like, hey, a baseball girl, you know. And 316 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: we both had season tickets at the time, and she 317 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: actually gave hers up after that season, which was so funny. 318 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: But she kind of have been like, eh, like maybe 319 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: it's not worth it or not not not worth it, 320 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: but just like you know, she could easily go buy 321 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: the same tickets online for cheaper, and so one day 322 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: I wasn't sitting in my seats. I was in a 323 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: suite with a bunch of friends, and I went down 324 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: and I sat with her for like two innings, and 325 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 3: I was like, dang, like this is really cool to 326 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: actually meet a girl or woman whatever who loves baseball 327 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: just as much as I do. And you know, after that, 328 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: this season was just about to be done. And so 329 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: we connected, you know a little bit over the off 330 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: season and talked about baseball, about you know, the trades 331 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 3: and what was going on and who we were going 332 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: to pick up, and then we made a video about 333 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 3: the season starting and it was just like it was 334 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 3: the worst opener that we had both seen in so long. 335 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: It was so embarrassing. Patrick Sandibal I think went like 336 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: one and a half innings and we're like, oh great, Yeah, 337 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: we're so back, and you know, it was just like, 338 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: you know, we have very similar humor. We're both geminis. 339 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: And from that point forward, we you know, we went 340 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: and saw a ton of games at home. We went 341 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: to San Francisco to watch the Angels play the Giants. 342 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think if we've been anywhere else together, 343 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: but now obviously she's with John Boys. So I went 344 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: and visited her in New York and we got to 345 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: go see a bunch of Angel games. We that was 346 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: the series that we beat the Yankees three out of 347 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 3: four games. You know, like like you were saying, like, 348 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: we do play really well against good teams sometimes, and 349 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: it's the weirdest conundrum. You know, I don't understand it. 350 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: And uh, there's got to be some sort of science 351 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: behind the mentality to me that maybe the Dodgers and 352 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: the Yankees walk into it just saying it's the Angels, 353 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: We're fine, and then you know, either get swept or 354 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: almost swept. 355 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: So I got to ask you. You mentioned the term, 356 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: what is the definition of a baseball girly? And how 357 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: and when did that become a thing? 358 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it has stemmed from Twitter. 359 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: I honestly don't know when it started to become a thing, 360 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: but it has taken off over the last few months. 361 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: I think it probably started last year is when I 362 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: first started seeing it. But it was like, you know, 363 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, women realized that we all actually 364 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: like baseball and it's and it's also really cool, like 365 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 3: if a girl wants to get into baseball, she doesn't 366 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 3: really necessarily want to go talk to a guy about it, 367 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: because you're going to feel a little like undermined or 368 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: you know, maybe they're just like, oh, you don't know 369 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: what that means, and you know, and when you're just 370 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: talking to another girl, it's like, yeah, let me tell 371 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: you exactly what this is. And my favorite thing in 372 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 3: the entire world is a season ticket holder is bringing 373 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: other girls to the game and watching them like ask 374 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: me questions and falling in love with the game. And 375 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: it's like it's not about you know, what the guys 376 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: look like on the field anymore. It's like, Wow, I 377 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: actually really enjoy this and like I'm having fun and 378 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: and then wed up winning, you know sometimes and they're 379 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: like the most excited and now they're following, you know, 380 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: people on Twitter and Instagram and just loving the game. 381 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: You know, Like it's I think girls think that baseball 382 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: is for men, and it's definitely not the case. And 383 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 3: I think it's really cool to be able to see 384 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: how many women are actually following sports. 385 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: All right, now, let's turn our attention to the World 386 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic, which starts this week. All of our World 387 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic coverage is brought to you by our friends 388 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: at Fox One, which is live stream all your Fox 389 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: favorites together in one place, including all WBC games over 390 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: the next few weeks, and after that the best MLB 391 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: action all season long. So, guys, angels have two frontline 392 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: players in the WBC. Left hander you say Kakuchi, of course, 393 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: we'll pitch for Japan, and third baseman Yowan Macatta will 394 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: play for Cuba. Outfielder Matthew Lugo will play for Puerto Rico. 395 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 1: Left hand or Sam alder Gary, or we'll pitch for 396 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Italy or as Sam Blum likes to call him, Sam 397 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: al Degardy and right hander Sam and the Tara, Mark 398 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: Trumbo's guy. He's caught Mark. Sorry, this spring, we'll pitch 399 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: for Mexico. Both of you guys, are you fans of 400 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: the d WBC. Do you guys watch it all the time? 401 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: Where are we at with this event? 402 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? I went to a bunch of WBC games in 403 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: Arizona the last time, which was really cool. I had 404 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: Freddy Freeman's wife was sitting like right behind me. I 405 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: saw Trout's wife sitting in this section like. It was 406 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: so fun. There was nothing like it. I'm actually I 407 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: just realized I'm going to be in Houston next week 408 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: the same time as Swilly is going to be there, 409 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: and you know some of the games are going to 410 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 3: be played. So I'm trying to look into if I 411 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: can it back to it because it was a blast. 412 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: Mark you a big fan of the WBC. 413 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: If the fans like it, I like it. I will 414 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 2: usually watch most of the action that I can, especially 415 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: at the end when they're the better teams are still 416 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: in it. Although it is fun seeing some of the 417 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: teams that you would not expect maybe to be able 418 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: to compete as well, and then some of the guys 419 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: that have. I think it's always interesting who qualifies to 420 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: play for who because there are some X teammate Zach 421 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Britton would have qualified for the Dominican team and I 422 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: looked at him and I said, I didn't know he 423 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: had any lineage there, and. 424 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: You like, I do. 425 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: You your Dominican? But I did qualify, so I think 426 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: Great Britain would be the only one, and I wouldn't. 427 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Did you ever play Did you ever get a chance 428 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: to play in it? Or come close? 429 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm gonna say no. I have forgotten a lot. 430 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: But if it was ran by me, I don't know 431 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: my My personal opinion is I was way more likely 432 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: if let's say this scenario had played out, I probably 433 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: would have wanted to focus on the regular season. It's 434 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: it's boring and probably not the answer everyone loves, but 435 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: that was where my whole mindset was because that was 436 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 2: kind of my priorities. And the Olympics are coming up, 437 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: so my wife is really jazzed on that. And you know, 438 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: the the prospect of the best players in MLB playing 439 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: for Team USA, we've kind of debated, you know, is 440 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: that logistically possible? Will teams and owners be willing to 441 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: let the best go for and how would that even 442 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: work mid season? I'm glad I don't have to decide that. 443 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: But as far as the WBC, I know the players 444 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: are amped up. I have concerns, like everyone else, ramping 445 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: up too soon because you want to win, and especially 446 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: on the pitching side, can be a little nerve wracking hitters. 447 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: I think it's actually probably better because they're seeing some 448 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: really good competition. Mancata with the little rescue to me 449 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: early on in the handful of our bats, take it 450 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: for what you will, so hopefully he gets plenty of reps, 451 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: especially with the glove as well, and hopefully you know, 452 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: the Angels players represent. 453 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if Baseball and MLB can figure out 454 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: how to do the Olympics to condense the schedule in 455 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: the one week, well, I think you cancel the All 456 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Star or postpone the All Star Game that year. I 457 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: think if you can do that kind of event mid season, 458 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot more representative of the talent, 459 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, being in mid season form as opposed to 460 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: being an early spring training form. I think that'd be 461 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: a really interesting and not that you know, the WBC, 462 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: I think came a long way last time, and the 463 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: way it ended was show Hey striking out Mike Trout. 464 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: I mean, as far as drama in March, you're not 465 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: going to get much better than that. But I certainly 466 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: see your point Mark in you know, ramping up too soon, 467 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: especially for a picture can be really dangerous. So it's 468 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting event to watch. So from 469 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: the WBC through the World Series to the World Cup, 470 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: to NASCAR and IndyCar. 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So 480 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: mark any closing thoughts on things that have caught your 481 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: eye early in camp so far or your ear We. 482 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: Covered a lot of them. 483 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: I did. 484 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: In the broadcast against the Dodgers. Rick Munday had some 485 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: thoughts on Logan o'hoppies throwing hand and being exposed. 486 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: I saw that, yeah. 487 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: As I am not a catching expert, I did consult 488 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: two former catchers who I lean on quite heavily. One 489 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: was on the show, Caleb Joseph and Hank Conger too. 490 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: I was more interested in the late glove movement as 491 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: I was watching Readetmer's out there navigating. I think that 492 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: was a very mediocre performance by him. I would like 493 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: to see a lot better pitch efficiency and not let 494 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: some of those of bats go as many pitches and 495 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: get rid of the walks. But I know Ahpi had 496 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: some lake love moment and I inquired as to what 497 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: was going on with that, because as a picture, I 498 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: assume you want to get a good look at the target. 499 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: You don't want to telegraph it, and with the cheating 500 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: and whatnot, I know, but apparently it is intended to 501 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: get the glove low and work upwards to steal those 502 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: low strikes. But when you're you know, I don't know 503 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: too many things where you're you know, for a picture, 504 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: you're hyper focused. I believe on a spot, maybe you 505 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: have to choose the shin guard or something else. But 506 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't like a lot of movement, and I could 507 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: be dead wrong, but I do wonder if if his 508 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: is a little more exaggerated, and as far as his 509 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: throwing hand, it must be a personal preference, and maybe 510 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: he is just willing to roll the dice. But it 511 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: is hanging out kind of in the open, and somebody 512 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: that's seen as much baseball as Rick, he spotted it 513 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: right away, so something to keep an eye on. May 514 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: not be a big deal, but I'd rather see him 515 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: stay on the healthy side. 516 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: That first foul tip into the old thumb will probably 517 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: half that hand behind his back before you know it. 518 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: I actually asked, you know, I've noticed that last year 519 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: with the catchers bringing their you know, starting their the 520 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: the guys in the wine, they start with a glove 521 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: almost pretty much on the ground and then they bring 522 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: it up. And I asked Logan that specific question, and 523 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, they're trying to bring the ball up 524 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: into the strike soon to snag that low strike as 525 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: opposed to the you know catchers in the past just 526 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: set a target and hopefully you hit it. I'll sort 527 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: of pose this question. You will ask some people as 528 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: we move forward toward the season. But Mark, with the 529 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: ABS system, people think framing is not going to be 530 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: as important. But you only get two challenges a game, 531 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: so I don't you suspect that style of catching is 532 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: really going to change much even though you know the 533 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: ABS system is in place for this year. 534 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: I was so swisch here to get answer. 535 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah we did. 536 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: I tried to bring it up a little bit, but 537 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: and he did cover it. I think you only have 538 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: a couple of challenges, so yes, they are still going 539 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: to try and steal relast strike because catchers are low 540 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: lifes and you know, coming from a formarat or they 541 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: want to do a very good job. You know, you 542 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: just give a look back like and then probably look 543 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: Actually you're not supposed to look. 544 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: If you want to get some words in. 545 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: With the umpire, best uh to look down and get 546 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: your point across as opposed to turning around. But they're 547 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: gonna keep doing it. I'm tired of seeing, you know. 548 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: I think most umpires are very good anyway. The challenges 549 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: have been a mixed bag so far, and one thing. 550 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: As a fan, well, I guess say I'm that now 551 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: or a whatever I fit and doo. But without the 552 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: lack of the box viewing the games, a lot of 553 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: pitches are hard to tell, especially when the camera is 554 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: lightly off angle. I got very used to watching games 555 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: with that strike box, and I guess the thought there 556 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: is you don't want to give teams an advantage on 557 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: the replay side of it, instantly viewing and then tapping 558 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: helmet or however they do it. So but a different 559 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: viewing experience and the way it used to be. Mike, 560 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: maybe you remember those days, but. 561 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: Sorry, remember we're a pitch up near your your armpits 562 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: was called a strike a long time ago. 563 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: I know, we'll see I have a question. Is the 564 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: box not going to be on the app either? 565 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: It's a good question. I think it will be on 566 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 1: the app. I don't see why it wouldn't, but unless 567 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're fearful of the app being played in 568 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: the dugout as well. But that's a good question. Yeah, 569 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna find the answer to that question on the 570 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: next episode of Halo Territory. Well, that's going to close 571 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: our show for today, and Breezy Nolan, thanks for making 572 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: your Halo Territory debut today. We're glad to have you. 573 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Mark Trumbull, thanks as always. Uh please like and subscribe 574 00:33:52,920 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: and we will see you next time on Halo Territory.