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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm Richard Soloman and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the

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Speaker 2: stories we're following. Today. Looks like the beginning of a

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Speaker 2: very volatile week after central bankers from both the US

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Speaker 2: and Europe signal that interest rates will likely stay higher

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Speaker 2: for longer. Speaking at the Jackson Hole Symposium, Chair J

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Speaker 2: Powell said monetary policy will stay restrictive until inflation is

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Speaker 2: moving more firmly toward the fed's two percent target.

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Speaker 3: Based on this assessment, we will proceed carefully as we

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Speaker 3: decide whether to tighten further or instead to hold the

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Speaker 3: policy rate constant and await further.

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Speaker 2: Data now, that is Chair J. Powell. He went on

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Speaker 2: to note that the American economy may not be cooling

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Speaker 2: say that could in turn put further pressure on inflation

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Speaker 2: right and perhaps warrant further tightening. We also heard from

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Speaker 2: the head of the ECB, Christine Legard. She vowed to

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Speaker 2: set borrowing cost as high as necessary and leave them

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Speaker 2: there until inflation in the Eurozone is back under the

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Speaker 2: ECB's goals. Separately, we heard also from the BOJ Governor Cuwaita.

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Speaker 2: He did not comment on foreign exchange rates. Now that

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Speaker 2: takes us to some news here in the States and

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Speaker 2: a possible legal settlement by THREEM to resolve hundreds of

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Speaker 2: thousands of lawsuits over defective combat ear plugs. The story

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Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini.

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Speaker 4: Sources say three M has agreed to pay more than

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Speaker 4: five and a half billion dollars to resolve the more

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Speaker 4: than three hundred thousand lawsuits. This could help the company

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Speaker 4: avoid a much bigger liability that Threem had tried to

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Speaker 4: curb through a controversial bankruptcy case that ultimately collapsed. Carl Tobias,

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Speaker 4: law professor at the University of Richmond, says, it looks

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Speaker 4: like in this case, Threem negotiated a pretty good deal

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Speaker 4: for itself, and THREEM could use the legal quiet on

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Speaker 4: this front because it also faces thousands of other lawsuits

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Speaker 4: over so called forever chemicals, and that could cost way

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Speaker 4: more than the ear plug suits to resolve. Denise Pelligriny

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Speaker 4: Bloomberg Day Break Asia.

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Speaker 2: US Commerce Secretary Gina Romundo is in Beijing today with

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Speaker 2: an aim of boosting business ties with China. It's a

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Speaker 2: four day visit, the first by a US commerce secretary

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Speaker 2: in seven years. Now, Romundo is seeking to expand business

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Speaker 2: ties with China despite very very high tensions. Now we

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Speaker 2: know that the Chinese economy has been slowing. That may

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Speaker 2: make Beijing a little bit more receptive to Washington's message.

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Speaker 2: And we're hearing that Romundo is expected to announce working

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Speaker 2: groups on export controls and US Chinese commercial relations in

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Speaker 2: spite of a wave of criticism from congressional republicans. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: China has lowered the stamp duty on stock trades for

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Speaker 2: the first time since two thousand and eight. We have

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Speaker 2: more from Bloomberg's Juan Wong in Hong.

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Speaker 5: Kong, China's Ministry of Finance at all half the one

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Speaker 5: tent of one percent levy as of today. The nation

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Speaker 5: is also pledged to slow the pace of initial public offerings.

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Speaker 5: That's among lieu of new measures to woo investors back

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Speaker 5: to as flagging equities markets. Regulators have also cut handling

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Speaker 5: fees on stock transactions. They brought um usual fund managers

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Speaker 5: to increase purchases of their own equity funds, and encouraged

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Speaker 5: companies to do more share buybacks in Hong Kong and

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Speaker 2: Want to point out that industrial profits in China fell

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Speaker 2: in July, but not as bad as in the month prior.

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Speaker 2: Profits last month down at a rate of six point

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Speaker 2: seven percent compared to last year. That compares with the

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Speaker 2: decline in June of eight point three percent, So you

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Speaker 2: might say some improvement. Yes, However, we know the recovery

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Speaker 2: in China remains challenged and deflation does remain a risk.

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Speaker 2: Inflation is obviously the story. In the States. The eel

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Speaker 2: the Fed's intention to remain restrictive, keeping rates high until

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Speaker 2: inflation comes down to the fed's two percent target. Even so,

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Speaker 2: he did suggest that the FED could hold rate steady

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Speaker 2: at the September meeting. Now, Bloomberg's Liz McCormick was saying

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Speaker 2: on Friday, Powell has the bond market exactly where he

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg opinion columnist Mohammad Alarian was saying, Powell has retained

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Speaker 2: maximum policy optionality. Let's get a look at Global news next.

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Speaker 3: How Speaker Kevin McCarthy says he will promote American natural

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Speaker 3: parliamentary speakers in Japan. While on Fox News Sunday Morning Futures,

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Speaker 3: McCarthy said replacing Russian national gas with natural gas with

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Speaker 3: US gas for just one year with lower two hundred

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Speaker 3: gas is cleaner than Russia's. The speaker says energy policies

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Speaker 3: Imprisoned Australian pro democracy blogger doctor Yang heng Jun fears

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Speaker 3: then visit Beijing later this year. Doctor Yang, along with

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Speaker 3: storem Idalia, which is expected to make landfall as a

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Speaker 3: hurricane as soon as Wednesday. Currently, Idalia is drifting east

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Speaker 3: off the coast of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula with top wins

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Speaker 6: Floridians along our Golf coast should be vigilant even if

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Speaker 3: Adalia's wins are expected to reach around ninety miles per

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Speaker 3: a Category one hurricane on a five step scale. Former

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Speaker 3: President Trump has been cashing in on his arrest in Georgia,

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Speaker 2: Danny. Thank you. Let's get to James Abata. He is

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Speaker 2: our guest, James's managing director, also the chief investment officer

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Speaker 2: at Center Asset Management. He joins us from here in

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Speaker 2: New York. James, it's always a pleasure. We had the

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Speaker 2: Powers Beach on Friday, not really much of a surprise,

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Speaker 2: but yields nonetheless drifted off a bit. What do you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you've seen bond volatility come down, but

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to see you know, further evidence

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Speaker 1: that the two percent target is going to remain somewhat

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Speaker 1: elusive for the Federal Reserve. I mean, it's clear. Let's

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Speaker 1: give the Fed kudos that you know, they've been able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, bring a cyclical downturn and goods inflation. You

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, you know, the Fed getting rates real rates

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Speaker 1: We need to attract capital, which means both foreign buyers

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Speaker 1: you know, the Fed has done a good job. And

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Speaker 1: you know, people barking about the Federation rates too quickly,

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Speaker 1: too much, too high, whatever. I mean, the people that

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Speaker 1: didn't make sense at a zero percent cost of capital,

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Speaker 1: work it was an eventual bankruptcy easy to spot five

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Speaker 1: years ago. I think the real issue now as we

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Speaker 1: and that really is something to be seen as coming

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Speaker 7: Here you have commercial real estate in many parts of

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Speaker 7: the US and a serious trouble at the moment. Could

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Speaker 7: it be from there? But as you know, ever with

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Speaker 1: It seems well, of course, I mean, that's you know,

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Speaker 1: the corpse has always come floating up to the surface

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Speaker 1: you know, undertaking a rapid increase in real rates in particular,

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Speaker 1: and again you know, a lot of projects made no sense,

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Speaker 1: But you know, we're back to rates that were normal.

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Speaker 1: the real rate. So we were in an unusual set

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Speaker 1: Powell credit for at least taking us out of that

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Speaker 2: There's still plenty of debate though, in the bond market,

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Speaker 2: in particular whether that cumulative tightening is going to spark

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Speaker 2: a recession, and then you know, we are dealing with

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Speaker 2: inevitable rate cuts let's say the early part of next year,

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Speaker 2: or as Bill Dudley was saying, I think last week

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Speaker 2: essentially over. Inflation is going to prove to be sticky,

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Speaker 2: too soon, let's say, just to tease out one of

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's going to be difficult for the

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Speaker 1: Fed because again, I think they've addressed the cyclical inflation

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Speaker 1: of the production and transportation issues. However, the structural issues,

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Speaker 1: fiscal deficits, you know, there's an argument to inflate them

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Speaker 1: away by raising the inflation taria from two to three percent.

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Speaker 1: Offshoring or onshoing, excuse me, is inherently inflationary. You know,

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Speaker 1: the other thing, which is the elephint in the room,

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Speaker 1: which is the productivity problem. Right, if you look at

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Speaker 1: total factor of productivity because that takes some consideration both

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Speaker 1: right now, it has fallen drastically without recovering since COVID,

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Speaker 1: look at the amount of capitalists employed per worker worker productivity,

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Speaker 1: it just remains dismal, which by nature, unless productivity is

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Speaker 1: somehow enhanced, the FED is going to have a very

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Speaker 1: hard time reaching its two percent target.

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Speaker 7: So what we're getting is a situation where probably inflation

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Speaker 7: also returns to the mean. If you will, and you

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Speaker 7: know you quite rightly, perhaps highlight the structural reasons why

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Speaker 7: inflation is likely to be hired. Don't forget the cost

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Speaker 7: of decarbonization. Also demographics and an aging population to play

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Speaker 1: some of the details behind this, it's almost like the

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