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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything, So don't don't do everything good like

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Speaker 1: that coding. Yeah, you guys are cute, hard hard all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll started. Have we started? Yeah? I thought we were

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Speaker 1: doing vocal warmups. We didn't. We didn't do a good

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Speaker 1: job starting the podcast. I'd say that we scared some

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Speaker 1: people off. Perhaps I'd say that we scared some people off.

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Speaker 1: I'd say that we are aggressively attempting to make our

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Speaker 1: is profitable. Ah, it's too early for an ad break.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Pete, to whom I offered congratulations, totally earned a

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Speaker 1: job as transportation We just jumped right into the juicy news. Yeah, yeah, congrats,

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Speaker 1: Mayor p Former Ma who you're going to have to

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Speaker 1: get confirmed more suited to the job of managing the

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Speaker 1: entire nation's transportation infrastructure than a man who was mayor

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Speaker 1: of a town with a population of a hundred and

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Speaker 1: one thousand Elaine Chow, I don't know. I was going

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Speaker 1: to guess a hundred two thousands. So that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That's a tiny town. It is remarkable if you stop

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Speaker 1: and think about it. The jump that he's made. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and not remarkable in the like, wow, he's succeeded so quickly,

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Speaker 1: but remarkable in the Wow. They are trying to market

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Speaker 1: him so hard that they have leapt up from essentially

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Speaker 1: local leader of a fairly small city to managing the

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Speaker 1: transportation of millions, hundreds of millions. And there's some fun

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Speaker 1: facts about how he's managed the transportation and infrastructure of

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Speaker 1: that small town. Cor Yeah. Wait, are you going to

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Speaker 1: say he's been so perfect at it that they were like,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy who obviously should be in charge

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Speaker 1: of how all of us get around. Yeah, Cody's got

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Speaker 1: an article that I think he's going to talk about,

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Speaker 1: But I found this fun little quote from the Daily Beast.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was talking about lgbtq uh nominations people

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Speaker 1: to the cabinet and about Buddha Judge is potential positions. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is like from a week or two ago, but

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Speaker 1: it says on the campaign trail, Buddha Judge seemed most

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Speaker 1: content when he was talking about infrastructure improvements in South Bend,

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Speaker 1: although one Democrat familiar with the pitch snarked that quote

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Speaker 1: a town with four stoplights in a mid sized regional

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Speaker 1: airport with fleet three flights a day is hardly a

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Speaker 1: transportation hub. For the context. South Bend International Airport had

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Speaker 1: thirteen departures and seven arrivals scheduled for Friday. But the

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Speaker 1: point was well taken. So okay, But how many departures

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Speaker 1: and arrivals are their nationwide? Like what maybe what I'm

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Speaker 1: gathering here is that Pete Bota, a small town, was

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Speaker 1: responsible for roughly sixty of the aircraft flights in that

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Speaker 1: math checks out. Yeah, thank you in which case for sure.

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Speaker 1: But Cody, you should talk about that article, that other article.

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Speaker 1: It's so Pete, we love you. Park just a quick no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no. There's like three cities where people know how

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Speaker 1: to parallel park, and none of them are South Bended. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, if you got one of these new

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Speaker 1: it's not even a skill at that point. No, people

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Speaker 1: other day and it's a car with California plates, veered

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Speaker 1: love about definitely not from San Francisco, where people at

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Speaker 1: least know how to fucking parallel part or just don't

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Speaker 1: drive that, but they do how to do that exact

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Speaker 1: when where you just talked about, Robert. I have to

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Speaker 1: commend you. Whenever you're telling some outrageous story about some

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Speaker 1: just have to laugh, like when you hear that Pete

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Speaker 1: Boutag has become the transportation secretary. Back on topic, Cody,

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Speaker 1: article that you were reading. I have nothing to say

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Speaker 1: about Pete. The article is called Pete's Good the end Um, Yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: great title is the article from He's seventeen um towards

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Speaker 1: the end of his mayoral uh um uh South Bend

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Speaker 1: mayor stands behind smart streets after traffic deaths. You'd bring

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Speaker 1: even to understand this article. Actually, so they well, so

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Speaker 1: anytime Pete has brought up, Uh, it's because you know,

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Speaker 1: It's fine, UM. And so when I bring this article up,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Pete killed a kid, right, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that like this story means that he isn't qualified

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Speaker 1: or whatever. There are others he's not qualified. But basically, basically,

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Speaker 1: traffic lights for a little less than a year. Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Then Uh, at a certain point, two kids across the

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Speaker 1: uh not ideal I guess for a mayor. UM. Because

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Speaker 1: decided to do it. This is actually, uh a theme

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Speaker 1: for Pete. He's very into like getting the getting the

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Speaker 1: of m o. He's I mean, I'm sure he's a

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Speaker 1: powerful Excel user. Yeah, well exactly. He You know, he's

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Speaker 1: got You've got You've got the whole Microsoft suite and Pete,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's how his brain works. That was his

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Speaker 1: I think if he'd used that, he would have gotten

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Speaker 1: little better. You respond to Microsoft humor anyway, we do um.

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Speaker 1: But so so basically and again sort of as this

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Speaker 1: like the community spoke up again. This is something like

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Speaker 1: Pete will get the experts in, do the consultants do

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Speaker 1: this and this, but then the actual community will be like,

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Speaker 1: well no, wait, we need that. If you actually look

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Speaker 1: that's probably where you need a fucking traffic light. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's just a thought. The st smarter, but he made

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Speaker 1: the street smarter, street smarts. I love this in fairness,

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Speaker 1: smart people kill a lot of folks, that is true.

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Speaker 1: asking Cody, because that's a horrible story of Pete doing

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Speaker 1: like you. Um, you know, here's what Pete said. We

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Speaker 1: simply don't know whether it would have made any difference

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Speaker 1: so like already, UM, I pizza smart guy. He's uh,

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Speaker 1: And what I just read, it sounds like he's blaming

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Speaker 1: what happened. We just don't know. What we know is

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Speaker 1: just an example of how his instincts and leadership is bad. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: want to go like soulless politics, which I'll do, and

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Speaker 1: you gotta get all that water money. But we're going

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Speaker 1: what I would have advised, what I would have advised

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Speaker 1: Pete to do is say, this is a tragedy. Uh nothing,

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Speaker 1: investigate this and find out what went wrong, and then

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Speaker 1: I would never say another thing about it. And that

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Speaker 1: would have worked out great. Yeah, Like that would have

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Speaker 1: worked out great for a good soulless politician plan. You're right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: instead of I mean yeah, instead of like, well, there's

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Speaker 1: that they died like a real like a real mayor. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: the Pete column for this position, um, is that Pete's

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Speaker 1: Ticket to Ride, um, a game that involves collecting trains

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Speaker 1: Pete plays a trained game. That's how they bonded. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: were and uh, we're going to restore the soul of

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Speaker 1: the nation all all this stuff, that's what he means.

427
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Speaker 1: He means that it's time to stop paying attention, paying attention. Yeah. Yeah,

428
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: it's just a weird double standard of like you guys

429
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: are up in arms about this but not that. Um.

430
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I just don't. I mean, part of this

431
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Speaker 1: alarms me because another things that I'm worried about Biden is, uh,

432
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: well we'll see what foreign policies look like, what right

433
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: you know? And the counter I mean, like this is

434
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Speaker 1: a quote from the intercept. While on the campaign trail,

435
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: Biden pledged to end endless wars without detailing how his

436
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: administration would differ from those of President Donald Trump and Obama,

437
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: even as lethal strikes, including amongst, against American citizens, have

438
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: remained and often noted blemish on Obama's legacy. UM and

439
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: This actually goes on to talk about, you know how

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Speaker 1: during Obama's administration, Biden advocated for what he called counter

441
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: terrorism plus a combination of special forces and aggressive drone

442
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: bombing to target suspected Al Qaeda militants. Uh, Platinum more plan. Yeah,

443
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: he's stuck by the advocacy on the campaign trail, vouning

444
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: vowing to keep a counter terrorism force in Afghanistan. So

445
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: all of that checks out to me in terms of

446
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: this nomination and also general fears that I have for

447
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: the coming years. Yeah, it's all there. There's no interest

448
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: in addressing that again, It's like it's all it's all

449
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: very performative and rhetoric based. You know, you'll see people

450
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: uh an article semi recently about how police have through

451
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: civil asset forfeiture, has taken more money from h civilians

452
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: than people have stolen like in burglaries. But if you

453
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Speaker 1: bring up the fact that Joe Biden introduced civil ass

454
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: forforture on a federal level, then you're like helping Trump.

455
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: It's that kind of stuff that's gonna carry over. And

456
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: he is who he is, He was who he was

457
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: during the primaries and the guy that like told voters

458
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: to vote for Trump, the guy that got in people's

459
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: faces when they challenged him. Uh, literally like grabbing a

460
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: guy by the jacket, UM for questioning his climate plan.

461
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: And if you listen to the leaked audio from that

462
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: meeting with a bunch of civil rights leaders, Uh, that's

463
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: the guy. It's just it's just Trump ship. He gets

464
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: angry when he's questioned, and then he says, I I

465
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: went up there, I I I called him a racist

466
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: on stage. Okay, Joe, what would you like for having

467
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: done that? Whoever was the nominee would have done that,

468
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: anyone would have done that. It's not it's uh, it's

469
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: very very frustrating to to watch because it's because it's

470
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: very clear who he is, UM, and who he's being

471
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: presented as, and who he will be and who will

472
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: be presented as. I don't know. But have you guys

473
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: seen those cute videos of his granddaughters talking about him.

474
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: I have not. I have no interest in that, UM,

475
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: but I believe that they're cute. I saw stuff like

476
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: that being shared, of course in the in the aftermath

477
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: of of him winning, or him playing with his dog.

478
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure, which is all great. It's true, that's sweet.

479
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: He clearly loves his family. Doesn't mean does it mean

480
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: he's a good leader. He's the bare minimum of a

481
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: human being because Donald Trump is an alien. He's a

482
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: great grandpa. Like that's the thing where the bar over

483
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: the past four years has been lowered to below the floor.

484
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: And so by by virtue of being like a semi

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00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: normal human being, uh, we can get like the little

486
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: stories about the kids and the and the dogs and stuff,

487
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: even though you know, because the Trump stories are like, yeah,

488
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: my dad didn't want to name me after him because

489
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: he thought I might be a loser. I love being

490
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: here because I can talk about all this. I can

491
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: talk about this with my friends. But it's hard, like

492
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: especially in those days when I point out frustrations like

493
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: this with people that just want that I love and

494
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: they've worked hard to to know combat Trump but really

495
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: really do want to have a return to normalcy, and

496
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: it's incredibly frustrating. It is where you're they say, just

497
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: let it be, let it go, let us have this.

498
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: You're like, well, yeah, enjoy that, but also this. If

499
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: you care about X, Y and Z, then you should

500
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: still care about it now. Trump losing is where it starts,

501
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: and people say, like I know, I know, but get

502
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: rid of the butt. Get rid of the butt. But yeah,

503
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: I've got a cut on my knuckle. It's yeah, you know, Katie.

504
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: The nation, the nation is like a knuckle with the cut,

505
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: except for that cut is actually like somebody has on

506
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: in at the night when you're sleeping and dosed you

507
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: with dissociatives and then inserted proximity mine into your hand

508
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: and if you move too close to the bandages, your

509
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: hand will explode. And Joe Biden, and Joe Biden's the

510
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: guy who's being like, come on, Jack, just pick up

511
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: the band aid. That's that's that's the city. Yeah, but

512
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: it hurts, does hurt. The cut in your hand was

513
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: really really it was like four inches deep, and you

514
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: didn't know it until Donald Trump was like, look at

515
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: the wound, look at it, look at it. But the

516
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: best wound. It's the best one. We love the wound.

517
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: And then Joe was like, wait, wait, wait, close that

518
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: wound a little bit um, but it's still four inches deep,

519
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: even though hand wouldn't be four inches. The doctor to

520
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: get that checked out. But here, give me all your money. Yeah,

521
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: go see a doctor, but let me make sure you

522
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: meet the doctorbile first, and then the cope and have

523
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: been paid all your premiums and then and then we

524
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: can take care of that cut. It's it's I'm dizzy

525
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: why I don't know, Like I'm I'm frustrated by so much.

526
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: One of the worst things that has happened this week,

527
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: just in terms of like my ability to be emotionally

528
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: okay with the world, is the ship with Jimmy Dore,

529
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: who's like a terrible left wing YouTube personality and AMOC, Yeah,

530
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: explain this. I actually had taken some time off Twitter

531
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: and I saw people upset about this, and I was like,

532
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I gotta oh, yeah, he's off. The frustrating thing is

533
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: he's more or less right in his specific suggestion to AOC,

534
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: which is that progressive should basically fucking blockade the dims

535
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: from getting anything done until we get some sort of

536
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: solid movement towards him for it, like medicare for all,

537
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: like that they should they should draw a hard line.

538
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's true with I mean, you kind

539
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: of have to pick one at a time for something

540
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: like that to work, but I think it should either

541
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: be a Medicare for all or something that fucking matters

542
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: on climate change, like one of them either way, the

543
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: idea that like, no progressive should refuse to work with

544
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Democrats until we fucking get something that it will actually

545
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: materially improve people's lives. There there are actually people in

546
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Congress who can be described as progressive, who will who

547
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: actually want those things. Yeah, and you can actually point

548
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: to that as something that might actually bring people over

549
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: to your side next election. And Medicare for all is

550
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: a solid pick for the thing that you draw as

551
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: a hard line to be Um, it's frustrating because Jimmy

552
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy Door is a fucking ghoul. Like there's there's sucking

553
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: one of the videos. He's a Syrian war crimes denier

554
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: who doesn't believe that anyone was killed by Assad's chemical weapons.

555
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: And he's done stuff like put up videos of like

556
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: the corpses of children being cleared away by like what

557
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: white helmets, and like smirked as he explained how the

558
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: footage is fake, Like he's a fucking ghoul. I don't know,

559
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: probably I can't. I haven't been able to stood stand.

560
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that makes sense, Like he's he's fucking trash um,

561
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: but he's not wrong about the tactic. Like the progressive

562
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: should in fact do that. Yeah. Um, that's the thing

563
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: I I um, it's a good idea. I keep seeing

564
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: people like say like, well the vote will lose Yeah, Um,

565
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's a loss and there's something I

566
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: don't know it and then have people worked up about it. Well,

567
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like illustrate like what is good and

568
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: who is stopping the good thing from happening? And shame

569
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: those people? Uh Like it's called politics, Like you sha'n't

570
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: you shame the people against it, and you bully them,

571
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: whether it's publicly or privately. Yeah. So you lose the

572
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: first vote on it, right, and then when midterms come

573
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: up because of this fucking plague, there are suddenly millions

574
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: and millions of Americans who either didn't have massive medical

575
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: debt before and do now, or who have close family

576
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: members who suddenly have massive medical debt, And you tell

577
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: them that will fucking go away if you put more

578
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: of us into office. They committed. It's just the Republicans

579
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: that stopped it. And then maybe you fucking don't lose

580
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: horribly in the midterms, and then you have and then

581
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: you do it again and get closer you actually build

582
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: the movement instead of uh, just not doing it, just

583
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: holding off because people say that people don't want it.

584
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: Every apologic like, well, it's not viable, it's not this,

585
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: not this. If you say it is, it will be

586
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: literally that is. That is if you if Joe Biden

587
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: came out tomorrow and said, actually, Medicare for all is

588
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: a good idea, everyone would fall in line. Everybody. I

589
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: have a feeling that a lot more people I might

590
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: have already said this last week, but a lot more people, uh,

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00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: then the already current majority are going to be coming

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00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: around on Medicare for all uh in the next year

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00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: or so, if only because of like what you already said, Robert,

594
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: but also the amount of people losing their insurance I've

595
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: already talked about. This year. I got kicked off of

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00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: my SAG health insurance, which was in hindsight, an astounding

597
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: program that I paid three and as if bucks every

598
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: quarter and that was my insurance. Oh my god. And

599
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: I had outrageously good coverage and I and so for

600
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: long all these Medicare for all So I'm I'm was

601
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: wildly out of touch with the reality. I know, I

602
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: was wildly out of touch with the reality of insurance.

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I knew I had a good setup. I knew I

604
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: had a good system, but it wasn't until that when

605
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: I started shopping around that I realized just how fucked

606
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: it is. A good or like the the worst plans,

607
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: you can't get anything less than a month, and you

608
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: still have to pay thousands of dollars before you can

609
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: meet your deductible or whatever. So it's all bullshits, all

610
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: sucked up. So many more people are going to be

611
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: having have lost their jobs. They're going to see the

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00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: reality of it. Small businesses, you shouldn't. If you don't

613
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: have to pay for your employees healthcare, great, that helps you.

614
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: I can't even I'm worked up about it. I can't

615
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: even tell you how much my parents pay and health insurance.

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00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: It's a ton. They're small, but they're the only employees.

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00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: Small business. It's offensive, I can't it's repulsive anyway. UM yeah,

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00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: that's just true. Um. More and more and more people

619
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: are saying it, um, and uh, not just that, but

620
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: just like yeah, it's keeping it saying that. All the

621
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: true things about it, about the situation, about um, the idea,

622
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: like the ridiculousness of having your health care tied to

623
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: your job, all these things that are wrong and seem wrong,

624
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: especially when it like something bad happens. Um. Yeah, yeah,

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00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: it's um. Just do it. Just force them, force them

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00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: to say, I don't believe in this, because again, Joe

627
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Biden and even John fucking ass Off is online every day.

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00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: Every day he tweets the phrase health care as a

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00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: human right, and every day it's a fucking lie. Yeah.

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Do you think I just don't like I I think

631
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: that there's an archaic thinking of that being a liability. Uh,

632
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: And I don't know that it is anymore. I can

633
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: see I can see somebody being wanting to run in this.

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00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: It's historically read state being afraid of it. But I

635
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: think it's time to let go of that. It only

636
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Speaker 1: if you're afraid of it. Set X is a liability.

637
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: Is a way to justify not doing things that you

638
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: already don't believe in, but you don't want to say

639
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: you don't believe in because you know they're more popular

640
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: than you're letting one. Um. In two thousand fourteen, we

641
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: would have said campaigning explicitly on racism and the fact

642
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: that Mexicans are rapists will lose you an election, and

643
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: then Donald Trump won an election doing that right, like,

644
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's the same fucking like. What actually makes

645
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: something a a winnable idea or not is not the

646
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: idea itself. It is how it is presented to people

647
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: and who presents it to people. And as Trump has

648
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: showed us, you can get people to embrace some horrifying

649
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: shit that would have seemed impossible a year or two

650
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: earlier if the guy they like says it. And it's

651
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: the same thing with fucking defund the police. It's the

652
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: same thing with Medicare for all. It's the same thing

653
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: for the Green New Deal. Um. It's just the way

654
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: that politics works. And the Biden, like the Democrats, aren't

655
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: scared of defunding the police because it's a bad issue

656
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to run on. They're scared of defunding the police because

657
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: they support the police continuing to grow more powerful and militarized.

658
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: They don't want the situation. They want to give them

659
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: more money. That's the whole thing. It's a leadership. Yeah,

660
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: a lot of leadership is about communication. Yes, you want

661
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: to say all of it, One could say all of it, um,

662
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: and uh, that's where they just fail. They fail at communication.

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00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: They fail at messaging. They but again it's not it's

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00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: by design. Yeah, they have It's sorry. I was warning

665
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: to pivot to ads. Oh yeah, you know who doesn't

666
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: fail at communication? Yeah, us prerecording our ads. Yes, yeah,

667
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: I nailed it. I nailed it everything. Oh we're back.

668
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: We're so good at communicating. Have you guys heard that

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00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: song back in the New York Groove by Ace? Really,

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00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about back in the U. S s R.

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00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: That's a great song. Takes credit for that because it

672
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: was based on the Beach Boys. That makes sense. Back

673
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: in the USSR was based on the Beach Boys. They

674
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: were like, you want to Beach Boys type song, and

675
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: so they did my cloves like I did it. I

676
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: wrote the Beatles sounds nothing like the Beach Boys. Anyway.

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00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of being back in the U. S s R,

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Speaker 1: you guys want to talk about Q and on a second,

679
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait. So we've been talking about the actual

680
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: reality of our of our nation in the democratic political

681
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: establishment and how bad they are at doing stuff like

682
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: leveraging or utilizing power and making things happen. But in

683
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: an alternate reality that does not exist, the Democrats are

684
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: actually terrifying. Lee competent um, and I want us to

685
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: just inhabit that world for a second. I want to

686
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: read you a Facebook post by a q and On

687
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: believer named Stacy Nelson. He's you're talking about what's coming

688
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: in the near future. On January twenty Biden will be

689
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: sworn in on January twenty one. He will shut down

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00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: the power grid. He will stop all food shipments, stop

691
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: all fuel pipelines. He will unleash the anti fus slash

692
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: BLM mercenaries, as well as select CIA assets and most

693
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: likely unleashed bio weapons upon our land. He will occupy

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00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: the military and two or more foreign wars, where he

695
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: will send our troops and fleets into well laid traps,

696
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: decimating our military, and under two weeks surrender to China

697
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: will happen by the end of March. Chinese occupy asition

698
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: to begin in April. Of the American population slaughtered. This

699
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: includes nearly all the leftists. This is exactly what has

700
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: happened every time the communists take over a country. So

701
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: that's the what to look forward to. UH. A lot

702
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: of times when I hear these q and On posts,

703
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys should be writers. You should be

704
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: you should be like writing fantasy novels or something kind

705
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: of ore. There's a different outlet. Uh, it is the

706
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: world we all have to live on. I would love

707
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: to talk to somebody a de radicalized que and honor

708
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: if they exist. Yeah, there's some um yeah, I mean,

709
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure we could set that up. It's it's a bummer,

710
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: like because this is actually like, there have been suicides

711
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: in the wake of becoming clear that Biden is going

712
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: to win as a result of just people completely losing hope,

713
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: and there's there's are those posts keeping So the big

714
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: one that went on, which is about a woman's aunt

715
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: committing suicide, I had that question too, and people have

716
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: traced back that specific reddit poster because it came up

717
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: on a subreddit that is for people who are have

718
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: lost or losing family members to q and on. It's

719
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: like like a solidarity thing, and that person for months

720
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: had been posting about that relative consistently. So if it's

721
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: some sort of fake, somebody went in for months and

722
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: talked about the degeneration of their aunt like before talking

723
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: about their suit, Like, it doesn't make any sense that

724
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: it would be fake. And I don't understand, like what

725
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: they would have gotten out of it would have been

726
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: a long con no benefit, And there's a number of

727
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: reports like that. It's very sad, and it's one of

728
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: those things. The hard thing about talking about Q and

729
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: ON is it's hard not to laugh about certain things that.

730
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Like right now, one of the big conspiracies among C

731
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: and ON is that the Israelian Chinese militaries have invaded

732
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: and occupied northwest Wisconsin, UM, which is which is very silly.

733
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I beg your pardon. Yeah, yeah, Israel and China have

734
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: sent twenty thousand troops into occupy Northwest wiscon sent have sent,

735
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: have sent, Yeah, they're there right now. The invasion has begun. Yes,

736
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that that's not getting more coverage in the

737
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: M s M. You would think, you know what else

738
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: isn't getting coverage, Katie, Fifty Chinese troops were massacred on

739
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: the main Canadian border by a single left sixteen. Yeah,

740
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: nobody's reported on the The M s M doesn't want

741
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: you to know. Burn it all down. The third is

742
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: people who like like people that the people who believe this,

743
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: like people they trust, are saying that this is true

744
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: on Facebook and Twitter. I know, not evidence but what

745
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean is is there like even like there's a

746
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: photo being passed around where like you look at it's

747
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: like okay, there's like this, but it's from like and

748
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: it's another thing or like can't see much of that. Lately,

749
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of digging into like the evidence because

750
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: this isn't all Q and On. This isn't a universal

751
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: if like it's it's such a splintered ideological ecosystem now,

752
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: which is one of its strength, right because you can

753
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: bring up to a Q and honor like, Okay, you

754
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: really believe jfk Jr Is secretly Joe Bide Yeah, and

755
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: then and they'll be like, no, I don't believe that.

756
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: I believe jfk Jr Is hiding in the shadows or

757
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: jfk Jr Is not at all a part of what

758
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: I believe about Q and On. Like that's that those

759
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: are the people who were crazy, you know, Like it's

760
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: this that Uber driver that pulled over to show me

761
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: um it was talking about Q and ON and showed

762
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: me a picture and it was images of JFK Jr.

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00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh good lodged in a way to look like a

764
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: que yeah, and he was like he pulls over and

765
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: he shows me it and then he goes see God

766
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: Katie episodes sad I went there with you. I I couldn't.

767
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it anyway, it's it's not to laugh,

768
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: but it's also it's the silliness of it is horrible,

769
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: but like, really what it what it illustrates? What that

770
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: silliness illustrates because like everything I could say about Q

771
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: and on, there are people who believe in that more

772
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: strongly than they believe in the bonds with some of

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00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: their immediate family members. Right. Um, that's the degree to

774
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: which this has gotten imprinted on people, and that's terrifying.

775
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: The the the right wing media disinformation ecosystem is tremendously robust,

776
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: and it is out of the control of Facebook or Twitter. YouTube. Now,

777
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: there was a point at which they could have stopped

778
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: this from getting to the point that it is, but

779
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: I think we're well past that, and I don't no

780
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: one knows how to fix this. But it is an

781
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: existential threat to not like the United States as as

782
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: a nation even but to like peaceful, pluralistic society in

783
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: in North America and honestly the rest of the world.

784
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: Past a certain point, it is a terrifying and tremendous threat,

785
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: and like, there's no nobody fucking is talking about it. Um,

786
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Nobody who like matters in terms of like a political sense, right,

787
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: Nobody who actually has the who holds the levers of power,

788
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: is talking about this in any way that means a

789
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: goddamn thing. You know. That's part of what scares me

790
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: is Joe Biden keeps focusing on like, oh, those scary

791
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Nazis marching with tiki torches at Charlottesville, and like that

792
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: is a tenth of a percent of the fucking problem.

793
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: There are millions more Americans who are radicalized now and

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00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: who would never call themselves a Nazi, would never chant Jews,

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00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: will not replace us, but believe eight percent of what

796
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: those Nazis believe, and are just as fucking militarized because

797
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: they've been caught up in this fucking this galaxy of

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00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: lies that is almost impossible to escape once you get

799
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: sucked into it. It's it's it's a terrifying problem, and

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00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about it. Um, But

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00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: it demands significant resources be diverted to understanding it and

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00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: solving it. And UM, I don't think we're going to

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00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: do that, I think instead, Nancy Pelosi's gonna clap again,

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00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden is gonna make pet Buddha is the

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00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Transportation Secretary, and the yell at the Nazis who are

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Speaker 1: dumb enough to wear swastikas, and maybe the Proud Boys,

807
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: and they will ignore the real problem as it gets

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00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: worse for four years and we will yes, just be

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00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: here but worse. Don't don't worry. Joe had nothing to

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Speaker 1: say about the Proud Boys stabbing people over the weekend.

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00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: He sure didn't, yeh. Maryam Williams Williamson, a very problematic

812
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: person who said some really fucked up ship during the

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Speaker 1: AIDS crisis, was the only Democratic presidential candidate who has

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00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: said a goddamn thing about any of the street violence.

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00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: And she has been consistent about that. Um, it's like

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00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: and that that is not a proman think, that is

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00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: how the funk aren't you talking about this girl? How

818
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: are you talking about this Bernie? Like, come on, Bernie

819
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: didn't say anything great. I mean he's trying, he's busy,

820
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: trying to get people checks. He is, he's doing good work.

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Speaker 1: I just wish And it's one of those like two,

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00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: So two weekends in a row in Olympia, Washington, there

823
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: have been Proud boy and and and anti fascist dueling rallies,

824
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: and two weeks in a row Proud Boys have shot somebody.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row um and then obviously two

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Speaker 1: rallies in d C in a row have turned into

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Speaker 1: multiple days of horrific street violence. One proud boy stabbed

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Speaker 1: another Proud boy another, Like there was another stabbing of

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Speaker 1: a proud boy where I collected all the video on

830
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, I aggregated it all in a tweet thread.

831
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: But like there was a single black dude in a

832
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Speaker 1: mask that got surrounded by a round a hundred Proud boys.

833
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: You just started beating him as he tried to flee,

834
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Speaker 1: and eventually he drew a knife and stabbed one of them,

835
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: after being stopped from leaving three times. Like it's fucking

836
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: horrifying the ship that you can see that they're doing,

837
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: and the police are barely pushing back against them, and

838
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: there is no national like the the what I'm getting

839
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: from the Democrats is that they if they think that,

840
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: if they pretend it's not happening, and they just make

841
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: fun of these guys every now and then in the

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00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: silly videos of the like wearing kilts or whatever, Um,

843
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: that that will be enough, and that they're not a

844
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: heavily armed militant movement building networks around the country and

845
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: doing increasing levels of severe violence on the streets. It's

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00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: all a problem. Lots of lots lots of problems. I

847
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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get a farm with some sheep. Yeah

848
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: you sheep, Yeah, yeah sheep. Anderson is very welcome to

849
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: hurt my sheep. You just want to hide in the

850
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: woods with a pile of rifles and a lot of

851
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like about the Proud Boys. What

852
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: is that when they do these events and these these things,

853
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: it's because they want to hurt people. Yes, Um, it's

854
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: because they want to do violence against people. That's how

855
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: you rank up in the organization. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's

856
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: a really that's a really unlikable trait about that gets

857
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: a thumbs down from me. Yeah, whereas in my cult,

858
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: you only rank up by getting censured by the FDA,

859
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: which I feel like is a superior thumbs up. Yeah.

860
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: Method of organization. Fake of vaccine or something. Yeah, fake

861
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: of vaccine, give people to drink bleach, any of the

862
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: good ship, all that good ship. So the presidents, so

863
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: the president's your the president is in good standing and

864
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: he's really yeah when it comes to sticking it to

865
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: the f d A. Anyway, how's everyone feeling great? Yep?

866
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: Is that it is? That our episode for the week.

867
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we have more to talk about? Really?

868
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: The Joe abides the Joe Biden's There's always more to

869
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: talk about. But that's why, I don't know. We do this.

870
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: Let's let's give our let's give our audience a little

871
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: bit of that sweet sweet red meat, you know that

872
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: that that ship they come here for. And let's talk

873
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: about our holiday lands. What do you? What do you?

874
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: What do you? What do you? What do you got planned? Katie?

875
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm staying home for the first time, the first Christmas

876
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: that I am not seeing my family, and I'm not

877
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: okay with it, but it just kind of have to be.

878
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: I've really I've struggled with this. This This is a

879
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: hard this is hard for me, but it is what

880
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: it is. I'm going to try to make it special. Um.

881
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: Mostly I just wanted to be over. I'm looking forward

882
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: to having some time, hopefully to relax a little bit.

883
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: I tweeted this, I'm I both desperately need it um

884
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: any time where I'm not I don't have to check

885
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: back in a little bit. And I'm also terrified of

886
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: it because it's been so long. I'm not sure how

887
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: to how to do it. So we'll see. That's going

888
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: to be my big experiment, my holiday holiday plan. Yeah

889
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: about you, guys, I mean not cool. I'm sorry that

890
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: it's okay, it is what it is. Everybody's doing this.

891
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: It's like should be doing this. Well, it's actually specifically

892
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: frustrating because my we're staying there to keep my parents away,

893
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: to keep my parents safe for so close to a

894
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: vaccine blah blah blah. But my neph you, my nineteen

895
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: year old nephew is still going to go and um,

896
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: there is a lot of drama in the family, but

897
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: they have committed to the fact that he is going

898
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: to quarantine, so they say and get tested. And my

899
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: mom called last night and said, that makes you feel

900
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: any better. We all talked and we decided we're going

901
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: to wear a mask inside at all times. Right, That's something.

902
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: Here's what I will say. Just because I had a

903
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: friend who um went to cover the d C rally

904
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: and came back, uh, you know, to Portland and quarantined

905
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: herself because she was in the middle of a bunch

906
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: of jud's screaming in her face and none of them

907
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: wore masks, and took a took a COVID test, got sick,

908
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. Took a COVID test, it

909
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: turned out negative UM, and then took a second COVID

910
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: test and it turned out positive UM. And that is

911
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: a thing, like, if you really want to be purple

912
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: with your immuno compromised relatives, do a double test if

913
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: you're going to not that I think people ought to

914
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: be traveling for the holidays, but if you're going to

915
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: do it, mitigate the harm as much as possible and

916
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: do a double test after you arrive in quarantine until

917
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: you get the results, like which sucks, Like that's not

918
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: a reasonable thing to do, but it's the only way

919
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: to be relatively safe if you're going to see your

920
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: fucking family. Exhausting, it's exhausting, all of it. I'm exhausted

921
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: by and I know it has to happen, but like

922
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: just the complications of literally anything, what I really need

923
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: is to go on a little trip that's the thing

924
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: for me personally, that clear of my head, and I

925
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: can't do that, you know you can. I might go

926
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: like rent, I don't know for the New Year's a

927
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: house on the coast. But if I do, it's going

928
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: to be like a fucking turnkey situation where I don't

929
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: come into contact with anybody else and I bring food

930
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: with Like that's able. But part of traveling is also

931
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: like for me getting out, You're like, I'm going to restaurant.

932
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to interact and remind myself of who I

933
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: am deep in my core. Yeah, and I want to

934
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: meet new people about their lives. And yes, none of

935
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: that is none of that is doable right now out.

936
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: But we're all in that same position and I'm not

937
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm not complaining inventing to the thing, and everybody feels

938
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: the sucky thing is like, as shitty as this is,

939
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: we're at least end up enough of a position of

940
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: privilege that like we we have the privilege to be

941
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: isolated as opposed to be working at a fucking grocery

942
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: store or like having to still work at a restaurant

943
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: or something, or god forbid, working in one of those

944
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: states where they're taking no precautions and people are still

945
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: showing up without masks, and you like can't make them

946
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: wear a mask even though it's the state law, because

947
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: you won't get tips and you rely on tips to

948
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: make your fucking rent. Like it's it's such a bad year.

949
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: It's awful. It's really bad. It's a bad system, bad year,

950
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: good stuff. So you might rent a house for New

951
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: Year's Eve? Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I might just

952
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, hide in the woods. That's what the plan.

953
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Human meeting instead of yeah, instead of reconnecting with people,

954
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: reconnect with nature, re re re reconnect with nature, Cody,

955
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: how about you, Um, I'm staying home. I'm not like

956
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: going back home to Ohio. Um for apparent reasons and news.

957
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: You want a social distance, hang on Christmas social distance,

958
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: hanging on Christmaschas Eve. Um, I've got you know, things

959
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: like this, In like New Year's I'll do something very

960
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: um personal probably, but like I'm not not doing the

961
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: travel I said personal, And we're all going to be

962
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: doing a lot of that Christmas holiday season for Hank,

963
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: get yourself the gift that really matters, Jack Jack jerking. Yes, Um, yeah,

964
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm also going to be hopefully finishing work on my

965
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: album during that to an actual break to do that,

966
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: which is now, Cody, is this album the one in

967
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: which you I don't know. I was trying to think

968
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: of a good album joke, but I don't know about

969
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: music to make a good joke. So I'm sorry. I

970
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: think you know. I think you got it. I have

971
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: been successfully ribbed very tell us about this album, Cody

972
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: sing us A little ditty, No that album. I'm not

973
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: going to play this album for you before it's done

974
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: by Cody Johnston. It's a good name. Were called Shapes.

975
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. Sophie. You what are you doing

976
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: for holidays? Crying? But um, crying and eating things. I

977
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: ordered a big tam they do curb side. That's a

978
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: brag side ham. Yeah, I'm really excited. I got Anderson

979
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: some cool holiday presents. Oh yeah, I've been by myself presents.

980
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: I love. I love buying presents for other people like

981
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: I do too. I think I like more than getting presents,

982
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: to be honest. Um, yeah, that's my favorite part of

983
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: the holiday season. And I chipped off stuff to my

984
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: family yesterday. I'm sad about I'm sad about all of

985
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: the like annual traditions that are normal that people people do.

986
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: I've every year for the last twelve years, my best

987
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: friend Robin and I do all of our holiday shopping

988
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: last minute and do like a ten hour binge shop

989
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: and we're like, there's no way we can. We're not

990
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: doing that this year. Yeah, We've done it. This would

991
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: have been our twelfth year in a row. It's it

992
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: was really the foundation of like what started our like

993
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: keeping our friendship together even though we you know, through

994
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: I was not in the same state for a while,

995
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: just things like that. It's but we always came back

996
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: no matter what and did this thing every single year.

997
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: And there's it's just so many people have similar things

998
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: that they don't get to do that they do every

999
00:57:54,640 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: single year, and we're we're all hurting, but it could

1000
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: We're still here, you know. Yeah. That seems like a

1001
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: good place to wrap things up. Maybe. Yeah, speaking about wrapping,

1002
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: wrap your Christmas presents in Jesus Christ, in Jesus Christ,

1003
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: presents in Jesus Christ. Yeah, skin him, use a lot

1004
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: of salt. Um. It's time for a new holiday tradition.

1005
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: You could mumify as bones uh and then use it

1006
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: to a code of presents. That's right, every Christmas, murder

1007
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: the son of the Lord and use his remains to

1008
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: wrap your gifts for your family. And while you're at it,

1009
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: why don't you check us out online? At worst your

1010
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: pot on Twitter and Instagram while you're Steer pod bigger

1011
00:58:48,440 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: than Jesus. Everything so dull and it's not again. I tried. Daniel.

1012
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,120
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