1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always as 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Put us together, and you've got 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: the podcast duo. That's huge in Dallas. Yeah, you've got 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: a lot more than that. Yeah, that about four hundred 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: pounds of hairy goodness, slippery hairy goodness. Yeah, four hundred pounds, 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and I'd say at least a hundred pounds of that 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: his hair. Yeah right. I wish if I could get 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: a haircut and would solve that problem in a shade. 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: You did get a haircut. We have the same haircut. 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: We're matching hair It's like, um, it's called the five guard. Yeah, 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: four guard? You go, is there a five? Yeah? I want? 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: I want, I go five, and I do a four 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: and then do a three on the sides. Just feather 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: it up. You know, it's weird this conversations. Yes, uh 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Umi says that she can smell a new haircut. You 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: know how you can smell a freshly cut long? She 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: says she can smell a new haircut, and I'm like, 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: no one else on the planet. Can we even looked 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: it up. There's no reference on the entire internets to 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: smelling of a new haircut. Right, maybe she's a super 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: taster smeller. I was going to say, I don't think 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: that that translates to taste chuck. But is that a segue? 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: I think that works kind of right? I mean, um, 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: consider this. You know when you've ever smelled something and 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: you're like, I know what that would taste like, but 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: it wouldn't taste like that, But you just you can 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: tell how something would taste for how you would imagine 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: it would taste. The reason it's so easy to imagine 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: that is that smell and taste are as similar as 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: any two senses are because they're both reactions to chemicals. Right, 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: olfactories smell gustatory. We'll probably say those words taste very nice. 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: And the types of there, they're different types of molecules 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: that react to different types of UM senses. Right, So 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: you have an odorant that we smell that reacts with 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: our our odor receptors, and then you have goostants or 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: taste its. Yes, I prefer tasting um that react with 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: the taste receptors on our tongue, right, right, But because 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: they're so close, you know, you really actually can't have 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: one without the other. Which if you've ever had, um, 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, any industrial accident associated with chlorine, you'll know 44 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: that not only can you not smell any longer, you 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: can't taste any longer. Yeah, or that's why the tastes 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: weird when you have a cold. Like Patty and Selma, 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: they had an accident. I can't remember what happened, but 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: they everything tastes like cardboard to them. It was like 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: this offhanded thing they said in the Simpsons, but like 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: after it sunk in, I'm like, that's the most depressing 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard. They were big smokers too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: I guess that was my Patty and Selma. Uh, since 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, we should go ahead and point a 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: little factoid here that worms and other invertebrates actually there's 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: no distinction between taste and smell. Yeah. They're like, why 56 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: why put any kind of division up. We're just gonna 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: call all one thing. But my head looks like my butt, 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: so what's the difference, right? They distinguished between volatile and 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: non volatile organic compounds, right, which means that if you 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: paint a room and put a worm in it, it 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: knows that you just painted that room, right, or if 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: you got your hair cut right perhaps, Yeah, uh so, 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: I guess we should talk about these uh g r 64 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: c s, gustatory receptor cells, taste buds. That's kind of 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: where it all happens, it is, and you know, the 66 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: taste buds are a little Oh, I guess they're part 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: of the little bumps on your tongue. But yeah, it's 68 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: actually under that. Yeah, well how that works. It's wrapped 69 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: up in a package, right. Yeah. It looks like a 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: little spring onion, like the butt of a spring onion, 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: or radish looks like a radish it does, or beat 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: It looks like one of those maybe even a weird 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: gar like or you know what it looks like here 74 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: looks like a hot air balloon. It looks like one 75 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: of those boxing Yes, nice, chuck um. Within this little 76 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: what's called papilla papilla Yeah, um, I don't think you're 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: supposed to say it like that. Within that, there's fifty 78 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: taste receptors and they're generally specialized taste receptors, right, and 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be the same kind of taste receptor in 80 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: every peppie, right, um. And so you've got fifty of 81 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: those some basil cells which are skin cells. They produced 82 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: skin cells, right, Yeah, not basil is in the plant. 83 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: That would be great. If they had basil that lived 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: in my tongue at all time, you would be turned one. 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: Remember that's right. It's as for men, yes, just for 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: men gel Um. Great if you're actually sponsored by things 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: and we just worked them in like that. Yeah, it's 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: called product place, right, what do we do on that? Um? 89 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: So you have about fifty receptors in this little peppie 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: lace and basil cells, and um, you have a little 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: each each receptor cell has a little hair sticking out 92 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, gustatory hair. Right. It's not Italian though now, 93 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: but all of it does sound in town. That's from 94 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: what I gather from this photo rendition, is that that 95 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: is what you actually see poking up on your tongue. Right. 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: The little round thing is actually the little goostatory hairs, 97 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: isn't it. That's what it looks like. It's coming out 98 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: of the top of the speed bag, and they come 99 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: out of taste pores. And it's the goose story hair 100 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: where all the actions taking place. Right, Yeah, that's where 101 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: flavor and take well this or taste starts. Say you 102 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: put a bite of steak in your mouth, right, so 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: the the um, the saliva is breaking down the meat. 104 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: It's the first step in breaking it down, and it's 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: breaking it into these little molecules called tasteins or gustin, yes, 106 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: depending on your preference and um. These molecules bind to 107 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: the saliva, are taken across the tongue, and they stick 108 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: to the receptors that are generally uh designed to if 109 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: you believe in intelligent design, designed to um create the 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: sensation that we call taste, or they just happened to 111 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: match up. If you don't believe in intelligence, right exactly, 112 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: good luck. And Chucker's taste is much different from flavor, 113 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: isn't it. Let's define taste and flavor because this is 114 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: a big This is a big thing. Yeah, flavor. I 115 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: think Sarah Dowdy actually have stuff you missed in history class. 116 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Fine podcasts. She wrote this and the way she put it, 117 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: which I thought was great, was flavor is it's sort 118 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: of like a full body. And we'll get into actually 119 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: that stuff later with the gut cells. But flavor is 120 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: a whole body experience. It's um, all your senses, including smell, 121 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: obviously tactile, and she said that with spicy food, pain 122 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: is factored in. Is one of the aspects of flavor. Yeah, 123 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: I love that. So taste is this this taste in 124 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: molecule wrapped up in your saliva, smacking against augustatory hair. Yeah, 125 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: it's it sends a transmission to your brain, right, and 126 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: your brain encodes it and says mommy right. Or salty. 127 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: There's different voices for each taste, as I'm sure you 128 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: know already. Um, don't ask me to do sour, but 129 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: that's just the we will later. That's just the taste. 130 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: The flavor is that the pressure that the steak puts 131 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: on your tongue, um, the the the TecTile sensation of 132 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, the kind of ends of the meat. You 133 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's just kind of dancing across 134 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: your tongue or if you like your steak rare, medium rare, 135 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: like I do that, just that lump of like warmish, 136 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: bloody flesh, right, yeah, And then like you said, pain 137 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: to all of our vegetarian fans, just turned off. Just 138 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: are so disgusted right now. But that whole sensation is flavoring. 139 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: All these different sensations are going to the brain, and 140 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the brains like steak. Yeah, you know what I want 141 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: to know. And actually just thought of this. What is 142 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 1: the deal when you like, eat a piece of cheese. 143 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Someone will tell me that, I'm sure like you get 144 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: a piece of sharp cheddar and it feels like your 145 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: jaw locks up. Do you ever have that with certain flavors? No, really, 146 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: your jaw lot, I know, with like really dill sour flavor. 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm talking about Jerry, have you ever 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: had that cheese? Jerry's asleep, Like, I'll put a piece 149 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: of cheddar in my mouth and my my jaw just 150 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: like clinches, like noticeably clinches. I have no idea what 151 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Jerry just said, yes, Jerry doesn't know 152 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: what we're talking about at all. Well that maybe you know. 153 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about super tasters in a minute. There 154 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: are different types of tasters. We found out it's not 155 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: the same for everyone, So maybe that's one of my 156 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, my kinds, right, And here's a little spoiler 157 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: about super tasters. The key to supertasters. They have more 158 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: taste buds. It's huge boring alright, so chuck, um, there are, 159 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: of course, what every school kid knows, our primary tastes, right, yeah, sweet, salty, sour, bitter. 160 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Right back in our day, that was it. That's all 161 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: the taste you'd get, right, sunny, yeah, and um what 162 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: was it? Salt, sweet, sour, bitter? Yeah, right, and then um, 163 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: what's funny? In the Western world, For a good century 164 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: after a fifth taste was discovered, we still stuck to 165 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: these four and didn't recognize that there was a fifth 166 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: one Americans because the researcher was Japanese and his work 167 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: was never translated to English. So in about nineteen d 168 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: nineteen o one, um a Japanese researcher named kikun Ikeda Yeah, 169 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: thank you aka Akita Akeda. Yeah. In the early nineteen 170 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: hundreds he discovered um something called umami, which means a 171 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: delicious savory taste in Japanese, right right. What he was 172 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: doing was he was he was cooking some of that 173 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: Japanese seaweed that we both love, and he was like, 174 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: you know what, this is neither sweet, salty, bitter or 175 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: so or so he started researching it, and he found 176 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: out that he isolated the glutamic acid and found out 177 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: that it had his own good statory receptor. So he 178 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: was like, this is legit, and he said it in 179 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: Japanese is the problem, right, yeah, And everybody was like, 180 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: what that guy just say, mommy, let's go back to 181 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the World's Fair in St. Louis right, that's my scream. Um. 182 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: So one of the reasons also that it was never 183 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: really investigated over here is ou mommy is much more 184 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: of a flavor that is in Japanese dishes, like you said, 185 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: seaweed huge, but also over here we have tomatoes and 186 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: new mommy flavor meat meat savory, sure, right um. And 187 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: uh Kada's research was backed up in the West in 188 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: nineteen five later, yeah, when some researchers started to try 189 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: to isolate the taste for monosodium glutamate. And remember oummi 190 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: is uh glutamic acid, right, yes, so glutamate glutamic acid. 191 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: So they're trying to isolate the flavor of MSG, which 192 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: is a pretty distinct savory flavor, and they found that 193 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: no combination of the primary taste bitter sweet, salty sour 194 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: could replicate MSG. I wonder how they did that. I 195 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot going on in flavor science 196 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: that it is fascinating huge, yes, but it's yeah, I'm curious, 197 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: but they basically yeah, you're right, they came away with nothing. 198 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: All the combinations. They can't account for MSG and it's 199 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: magical properties a flavor and calories and uh, it's supposed 200 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: to like make you feel full or something, you know 201 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: what they say. I don't know with MSG. Yeah, I 202 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: thought that was the deal with or maybe that was 203 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: just an urban legend people like, you know, Chinese food. 204 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: MSG makes you feel awful. No, it makes you feel sick. 205 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: It's called Chinese restaurant syndrome. That's Chinese restaurant syndrome. I 206 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: know with me if I eat MSG, Um, it's uh 207 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: it feels like a clause grabbing the top of my 208 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: stomach hurt so bad. Um, yeah, it's it's a lot 209 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: of people are allergic to MSG. And of course Chinese 210 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: restaurants were famous for they I don't think so, and 211 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: most most restaurants actually advertised whether or not use it. Well, 212 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: they advertise that they don't use that. They don't advertise 213 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: like with MSG is a bad thing. Sure, but remember 214 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: we got a listener mail in once from somebody whose 215 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: family owned a bunch of Chinese restaurants and was like, 216 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: you guys talk about Chinese restaurants center and because MSG 217 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: is found in like snack chips or you know, and 218 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: we get all the blame right, and it's just it's 219 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: not just Chinese restaurants, and a lot of Chinese restaurants 220 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: have stopped using MSG. So there you go, listener. We 221 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: satisfied that two year old listener mail just we finally 222 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: get around to it. And did you hear what a 223 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: pro I was. I didn't cite the snack chip that 224 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: he used as an example. That's how good we're getting. Wow. Yeah, 225 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: my mind is blown right now too. So UM, like 226 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: you said in two thousand two, actually is when Akita's 227 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: study was finally translated into English. So many years even 228 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: after oh so from that point New Mommi um was 229 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: accepted as an as the official fifth taste and then 230 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: but think about it, so that's like a century because 231 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: the taste map, which we'll talk about the tongue map, 232 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: that was established in nineteen one about the time that 233 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Kata was coming up with the umami. But it was 234 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: this that sweet, sour, salty, bitter right. Um, So for 235 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: a century the taste map didn't change, and then in 236 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: two thousand two, U mom is accepted in the West finally, right, 237 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: and then it seems like the floodgates open, right all 238 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like they're like, well, wait a minute, 239 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: if there's a fifth taste, maybe we haven't been paying 240 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: enough attention. Like fat is apparently now the sixth primary taste, right, 241 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: leave it to the French. Um. There are new studies 242 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: now Joshure's that says that, well, they they think they've 243 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: identified fat as its own thing, like humans have a 244 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: taste for fat, and that the funny thing I thought, 245 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: if you have a high sensitivity to that taste, you 246 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: eat less fatty foods. You know, chuck. That is I think, Um, really, 247 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: that's something that's going to become what gets taste research. 248 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: It's funding is obesity and diabetes and stuff, because what 249 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: they found is people who are when you're talking about 250 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: super tasters, supertasters who taste sweet things, tend to eat 251 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: less um tasters who a lot of people don't really 252 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: detect the fat as much people who do have less 253 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: body fat. You said, the lower body mass index. Yeah. Um, 254 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: so you don't eat the foods that you taste the most. Yeah, 255 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: that's interesting, it's very interesting. Yeah, they did. The lady 256 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: did the one study on supertasters, and I think she 257 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: found that women in their forties at least, I guess 258 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: that was her set was they were uh, they gained 259 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: less weight or they were you know, slimmer, right than 260 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: non supertasters. But she didn't because they were eating less 261 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, but she didn't find it in men, 262 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: which I thought was odd. I guess men are just 263 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: like we just shovel whatever. Bring it on. Yeah, it's like, oh, 264 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: you want me to lose some weight, watch, I'll just 265 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: drink water for a day and there's fit you pounds 266 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: should right, So chuck now it's two and if you 267 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: stick out your tongue, please stick out your tongue. Chuck. 268 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: You know I bit my tongue almost all the way 269 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: off when I was a kid. Oh I see that. Wow, 270 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: it's like Frankenstein's tongue. So all right, chuck, stick out 271 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: your tongue please. Still. Yeah. Um, so we've got you, mommy. 272 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: We've got sweet, sour, bitter, salty, fatty yeah yeah, and uh, 273 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot of it looks like the that's a pretty 274 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: fat tongue, chuck, it's not thick. This is worse than 275 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: the beat poop. I like the beat boop um. And 276 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: we also have what they've recently discovered that we actually 277 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: have specialized receptor cells that detect carbon dioxide. Yeah, well, 278 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: should we finish the tongue map real quick at least? 279 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: And why it's bunk? Sure? Uh, because you were pointing, 280 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: but people can't see you point, Josh. So the classic 281 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: tongue map says that bitters in the back, sour was 282 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: on the side, salty is on the front edge, sweet 283 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: is on the tip, and umami they're throwing on the 284 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: posterior and saying that that's where that is. Yeah, they're 285 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: like that that real estates open. That's but they're fine. 286 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: They've they've also found that um that there's fat somewhere 287 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: has to go in there somewhere, right, Yeah, do they 288 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: know where that is yet? I still knew. Yeah, it's 289 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: too new from what I understand, right, but I think 290 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not just it's I think it's going to 291 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: take the the the tongue map away. That's going to 292 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: be done away with because there are primary tastes, certainly, 293 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: but they're finding that, you know, the whole tongue map 294 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: when it was invented in nineteen o one, Yeah, a 295 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: German researcher. Basically what he did was to say areas 296 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: of low sensitivity were depicted like there was no sensitivity, 297 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: like there's those lines that like there's actual borders. And yes, 298 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: maybe this area of the tongue is higher in recept 299 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: yourselves for umami or sweet or bitter, but that doesn't 300 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: mean that it's not found elsewhere on the tongue as well, 301 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: and so a lot of tastes are a mixture of 302 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: all these. Number one, well sure, and all he did 303 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: was interview people, which I thought was odd. Yeah, his 304 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: research was backed up in nineteen seventy four by Virginia Callings, Right, well, 305 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: sort of backed up and sort of not well, it 306 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: was kind of like revised. I guess it's like, yes, 307 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: his he was right and saying like this area is 308 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: highing sweet receptors than this area, So you could conceivably 309 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: put a tongue map, but maybe it was just kind 310 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: of pushed the wrong way and that um and overlap. Yeah, 311 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Callings was the one who was saying like, this is 312 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: a lot there's a lot of interplay going on, including 313 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: CEO two. Let's get back. Can we talk about now 314 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: is the time? That's pretty cool. I mean you sent 315 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: me this over the emails a couple of days ago 316 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: and said, dude, you you tapped me on the head 317 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: and said, dude, you know that bubbly stuff. You think 318 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: that's that's what's making that taste in your mouth? And 319 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: it's not. No. Actually, there we have a gene that 320 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: UM expresses an zyme that's meant to detect carbon dioxide 321 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: in the bloodstream, right, so we can break it down 322 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: into useful forms UM, and they've for forever. Basically we 323 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: thought that anytime we drank a carbonated drink, it was 324 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: a popping in the little bubbles on our tongue that 325 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: created that sensation. Not so fast. They put people in 326 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: a pressurized chamber, hyperbaric chamber, right, given them soda that yeah, 327 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: has no bubbles present, and people could still detect the 328 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: carbon dioxide taste. So there's yet another taste. There's no 329 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: place on the tongue man for carbon dioxide, and yet 330 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: there's specialized receptor cells for detecting it. Right, yeah, Well, 331 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: because they like everything else, they said, this is interesting. 332 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: Let's get some mice and genetically uh make them different 333 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: and weird and test them out. And they did that 334 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: and they found it was the same receptor as sour. Right, yes, 335 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: what they um the sour receptor basically doubles as uh 336 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: CO two detector as well. They removed that in mice. Yeah, um. 337 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: And also they put a sensor into one of their nerves, 338 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: which is pretty interesting in and of itself that we 339 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: can do that. So those those combinations, those series of 340 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: studies um led to this discovery that we have uh 341 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: c O two detectors. And what an important discovery that 342 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: that is? Right, and Chuck, it is is it? I think? 343 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: So what does it mean? Well, that's the whole thing. 344 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: It leads you to the question, Chuck, why do we 345 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: have taste? Anyway? There's one obvious answer is that, um, 346 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: we are we learned to eat by deriving pleasure from it, 347 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: and we associate some taste with their pleasurable right. Well yeah, 348 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: but early man, it was a lot of times like 349 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: warning systems. Well this is the less obvious answer, right yeah, 350 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Like if they ate something sweet, they're like appealed to them. 351 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: It's you know, it gives them a lot of calories, 352 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: and so that's a good thing. If they tasted something 353 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: really bitter, it might be poisonous, so you should spit 354 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: that out right. Sour could be spoiled something more. It 355 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: could be you know, a sweet and sour candy, which 356 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: is yummy, right, right. And and with early man we 357 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: had yet to figure out a way to encode ideas 358 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and warnings about like not to eat something to you know, 359 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: the written word um, So we had to use our 360 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: taste senses on our own. And we still That's what's 361 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: so cool. That's why I love evolution all these years later. 362 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: That's why we're still attracted to sweet things because that 363 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: was survival. It gave you calories to live, basically food energy. Right. 364 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: But we have also gotten to the point where we are, 365 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: you could say, a reasonably fat society here in the US. 366 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: And you mix that together with health consciousness or self 367 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: consciousness especially, and all of a sudden you have artificial sweeteners, 368 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: which you would think is good for your body. But 369 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: they found that there's a correlation between U seeing um, 370 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: artificial sweeteners and type two diabetes, right, And they figured 371 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: out through this investigation, they figured out that there are 372 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: tastes cells elsewhere in the body. It's not just the tongue. 373 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: And we're getting this idea that not only our tastes, um, 374 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: they're more primary tastes than we realized. Tastes are interplace 375 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: of of different um receptor cells, and there's taste cells 376 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: elsewhere in the body, in the guts specifically, but also 377 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: probably in the pancreas, in um, the liver, in other areas. 378 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: So these tasting these molecules that are bounds alive and 379 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: they enter the gut, they start sending out other signals 380 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: rather than meady right, like what we were saying that 381 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: the like a bitter taste might be something poisonous. Sometimes 382 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: you'll eat something poisonous and it gets past the old 383 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: tongue and you swallow it, and that's when the guts 384 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: taste cells kick in, and that's why you might like 385 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: it might spur vomiting. It triggers your vomiting reaction. Thank god. Yeah. UM, 386 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: that's one way with the type two diabetes. Uh. With 387 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: the sweet receptors in the gut are signaled by something sweet, 388 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: they tell the blood to start absorbing insulin. Right, they start, 389 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: they tell the surrounding cells to start absorbing insulin. Glue coast, 390 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, burn for energy, So insulin which actually chuck you. 391 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: Remember we've talked about before, and I think whenever we 392 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: talked about longevity, insulins like the worst thing for your body. 393 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: But we use it to go into cells, to basically 394 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: open the cells, so gluecoast can go be burned, um 395 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: and you. But if the glue coast doesn't arrive, if 396 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: there's no sugar eaten and it's just an artificial sweetener, 397 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: that signal is still triggered. The insulince still goes and 398 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: jams open your cells, but nothing gets burned, and the 399 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: insulin levels go up, and you have type two diabetes. 400 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: So that's the tie between drinking like a diet soda, 401 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: right and leading potentially leading to diabetes. Right. But isn't 402 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: that interesting that we figured out something new about taste 403 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: That it's all over, it's in all over sensation is 404 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: what they're coming up with, Right, that's crazy. So what 405 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: else do we have, Chuckers, Well, I think we finally 406 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: need to just um map out the supertaste or thing 407 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: just a little bit more, right, because supertasters are pretty 408 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: cool and how it all happened is really cool. Shall 409 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: I tell the story? I'd like to hear this story. 410 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: Way back in the nineteen thirties, a scientist name Arthur 411 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: Fox from DuPont was pouring some and this is like 412 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: every like, osha, this is the worst nightmare when they 413 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: hear stories about this laboratory stories like this. This dude 414 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: was pouring some PTC. Do you want to say the 415 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: long name? I do, but I have to find it first. 416 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to say it. It is fennel theo 417 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: carbon minde. Yeah, very nice, thank you. So he was 418 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: pouring some of this PTC it's an organic uh compound, 419 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: into a beaker and the way he described it was 420 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: he said it suddenly became a cloud that started shooting 421 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: all over the room and this is when Ocean's like, 422 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: oh god, and uh. It basically filled up this room. 423 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: And he was in there with his partner and his 424 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: buddy was like, a ah ah, it's awful, it's so better. 425 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: And he was like, what are you talking about? Wow, 426 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: that's not bitter. What what do you mean? And then 427 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: you know that triggered the conversation. Wait a minute, what's 428 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: going on here? You had a really awful reaction. And 429 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: apparently I've seen studies on YouTube this they don't use 430 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: PTC anymore dangerous, but uh, apparently it's so bitter, it's 431 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: like the reactions are hysterical. So he goes home and 432 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: he starts putting this stuff on his family's tongues and 433 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: his friends tongues to see if they react the same way. 434 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 1: And he found that there's no rhyme or reason who 435 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: it happens to, because it's a genetic trait. And they said, 436 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: it's what they used to use this for. It's so 437 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: specific of a genetic trait. They used to use it 438 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: for paternity cases like up through like the nineteen seventies. Yeah, 439 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: it's as they said, it's the most like, uh, one 440 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: of the most common mentally and traits right up there 441 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: with like eye color and blood type. Is whether or 442 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: not PTC makes you like freak out with bitter really, Yeah, 443 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: that's a terrible test. Yeah. So, and it's it's a 444 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: specific gene. There's a dominant allele for the T A 445 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: S two R to eight gene. Right, they've they've isolated that. Yes, 446 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: seventy percent of people this is what's weird. Se can 447 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: gets the bitter taste. Fifty eight percent of Australians and 448 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: of Native Americans in both North and South America, almost 449 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: all of them have that reaction. Really Yeah, that crazy. Yeah, 450 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it means. I just thought 451 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: it was interesting. So the in UM there was a 452 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: researcher from Yale who coined the term super tasters. Right, yes, 453 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: and it's not just bitter and it's not just people 454 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: who react to um PTC or PCP. All right, everyone 455 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: reacts to PC. Yeah, but whether or not you get 456 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: you beat up ten cops I think is probably that's 457 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: a praternity test to let's see how you react to PCP. Right, Uh, 458 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: it's not just this bitter taste, right, you can have 459 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: a supertaster who really tastes sweet things, really tastes you mommy. 460 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: Really it's a primary taste, right, Yeah, that's just heightened 461 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: And like we said, the spoiler is you just generally 462 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: have more of these pepiles. Yeah, you have more taste 463 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: buds of the type than other people. Yeah, and it 464 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: can be a good thing, like to have a heightened 465 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: sense can be good in certain respects, but it also apparently, 466 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: UM like coffee and Brussels sprouts and really sweet and 467 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: spicy things. Super tasters can't handle that a lot of times. 468 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: So it's a curse as well as a blessing. Yeah, 469 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: I would say I can't handle broccoli, but it has 470 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: nothing to do with taste, you know, I like all that. 471 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: I've been eating beats like crazy lately, ever since I 472 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: beat salad. Yeah, I've been making my own beat salad. 473 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: I've been grilling beats, a little balsam, a little olive oil, 474 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: not hand that I'll have to try it, put it 475 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: on the grill, and then the next day you're gonna 476 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: think you need to go to the doctor. But it's 477 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: just the beats, that's all I'll say. So that's pretty 478 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: much it. Like we said, UM, if you're a super taster. Also, 479 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: it supports that um that aversion to foods that you 480 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: can taste more than other people. Super tasters who um 481 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: are are sensitive to sweet ten to eat less sweets, etcetera. 482 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: But they also avoid leafy greens, which is not good. No, 483 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have that. Yeah, you pregnant. Actually, we forgot 484 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: to mention they don't use PTC anymore, but they do 485 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: use p R O P as the test now, which 486 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: is a it's a synthetic compound. They just call it prop, right, 487 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: and they use it in um thyroid medicine. Right. Yeah, 488 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: but now that's that's the standard supertaster test to see 489 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: if you have that better reaction to that. So they 490 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: just give you thyroid medicine or they drop some prop 491 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: on your tongue. I don't know how it works. Weird. Uh. 492 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: And then lastly, chuck the answer to why a lot 493 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: of stuff tastes like chicken. I don't know. This surprised me. 494 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: They have UM, well, at least that cornell. Using gas chromatography, 495 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: they have isolated a thousand UM concentrations chemical concentrations in 496 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: n chicken that that contain tastings that the human tongue 497 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: can taste or that the human brain can sensus taste. 498 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: And they used to think it was hundreds of thousands. 499 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: They're like, no, it's just thousands, and chicken is like, well, 500 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: I made up the chicken part. That's my theory. And 501 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: my theory is that it's because there's only a thousand 502 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: instead of a hundred thousand. There's your answer right there. 503 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: And then lastly check that also makes me wonder if 504 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: there's a thousand chemicals and they used to think it 505 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: was hundreds of thousands. So there's hundreds of thousands of 506 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: chemicals out there, but we can only taste a thousand. 507 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of like light, you know, we can only 508 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: see within a certain band of light. Makes you wonder 509 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: how things that we can't taste taste. You just chew 510 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: on that one. And if you want to know more 511 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: about taste, go to how stuff works dot com where 512 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: you can type the word taste in the handy search bar. Uh. 513 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: And also, uh, this is I think requisite listening for 514 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: a molecular gastronomy podcasts that will do some time in 515 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: the future, don't you think? All right, let's love to 516 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: do one on that. Alright chuck. Then you know what 517 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: time it is, right listener? Mail? Or are we doing 518 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: some sort of uh Facebook or anything? Oh wait, we 519 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: got our big, big announcement. Yeah that's right, thank you 520 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: for reminding us. Go ahead, all Atlanta event right, Yeah, 521 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna do an Atlanta thing similar to what we 522 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: did in New York. Yes, because we got called out 523 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: by all the Atlanta folks like you go to New 524 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: York in New York, New York. What about Atlanta. Yeah, 525 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: well we're like, yeah, we kind of have to. So yeah, 526 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna do trivia night, right, all comers can come 527 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: take us on. We'll figure out the details. But um, 528 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: we're looking for venue still. Yeah, we could use you 529 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: people for details. If you were in Atlanta and you 530 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: have some connections with what might be a good venue 531 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: to host our trivia, please get in touch with us. Yeah, 532 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, we'll keep you posted. If you have any suggestions, comments, 533 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: whatever about the Atlanta thing, email us. And now wait, well, 534 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: should be sometime in August we should point out. Okay, 535 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have a lockdown yet, but look 536 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: forward in the next like six weeks. Now listen to me. 537 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: All right, all right, Josh, I'm gonna call this rare 538 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: shout outs because we don't do these very often. Shouts out, 539 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: shouts out, shouts out like the new Williams Sapphire. Hi, 540 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Josh and Chuck. My husband and I are huge fans 541 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: of your podcast. We eagerly wait every Tuesday and Thursday 542 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: so we can hear what you have to say. I 543 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: guess that proves your fans. Yeah, uh, now you can 544 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: be my Heroes as well. Next Saturday, July is my 545 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: husband's twenty four b day. Chuck, this is very kind 546 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: of you, and I don't know. We don't do this 547 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: very often. We just bought our first house. He made 548 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: me promise not to buy him anything. I guess because 549 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: they just spend on their money in the house. I 550 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: wonder if you give him a shout. I know you 551 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: don't do this often, so let me tell you why 552 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: he's cool enough to get a one of a kind 553 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: birthday greeting. His name is DJ Vile. Seriously, he's in 554 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: your Facebook crew v I l a d J Bile 555 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: and I don't think no, I think that's his name. 556 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: His name is like Donald James Vial or something. Well, 557 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: if he ever becomes a DJ, then he's all set. Yeah, 558 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: he's like, just call me me. He listens to every 559 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: one of your podcasts. He's a huge Simpsons fan. Well, 560 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean those are good, but that's not a reason 561 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: to shout out. But these are. He ran a tin 562 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: k as green Man. I know I saw that. Was 563 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: that a root suit? It was either yeah, I think 564 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: green Man in the root suit or one in the 565 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: same So you actually ran a full tank screen man. 566 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: And uh, lastly, he'll be spending his birthday driving to 567 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: present his research entitled this interfraction Variability of long tumor 568 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: motion using four D Cone beam CT at a Physicist 569 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: medical conference in Philly. And this dude is twenty four 570 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: years old and he's doing that. My brains melt. So 571 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: with that on the seventeenth, Happy birthday, DJ Vile, Happy birthday, 572 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: DJ Vile. Thank you very much for listening. And Julie, 573 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: your wife sounds okay a very kind man. Should does. 574 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: And good luck presenting your findings, and uh, best wishes 575 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: for your new home. All right, Chuck, thank you for 576 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: the listener mail. Now it's time for shouts out to 577 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: Kiva Kiva dot org slash team slash stuff you should know, 578 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: or if you just go to community you can search 579 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: stuff you should know. Join our Kiva team. 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We have like two thousand 584 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: and change members on the Kiva team, so there's like 585 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty thousand of you out there that 586 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: are really disappointment, right and this just this, But on 587 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: the same token, we're very very proud of the two 588 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: thousand and change who are members of this stuff You 589 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: should Know Kiva Team because so far they've raised a 590 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand and then some. So far, we're 591 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: on the way to y Yeah, we are included, but 592 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: there's people on there who put us to shame, you know, 593 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: they're lighting it up on their Yeah, there's some really 594 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: great people, and there's somebody who's like, um, uh, that's 595 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: somebody got a bonus at work and made alone. Um 596 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: somebody I think an auto repair wasn't as much as 597 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: they thought, so they used the difference on Kiva. They 598 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: made alone on Kiva. People that just make us look 599 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: like vile, Like twenty bucks on the ground and like, 600 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 1: if I'm not hungry, I might think about not spinning 601 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: it on beer and giving it to keep it. I 602 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: have a similar problem. Uh, So, thumbs up to our stuff. 603 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: You should Know Kiva Team. If you want kudos from us, 604 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: you can join it yourself. Again. That's www. Dot kiva 605 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: dot org. Slash Team slash Stuff you should Know is 606 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: a very welcoming community. Of people. Right, great people were 607 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: on Facebook. 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