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Sticky notes, email alerts, a string 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: around your finger. They're just not big enough. So here's 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: a big reminder from the California Lottery. Tonight's Mega Millions 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: jackpoties of one hundred and seventy five million play out. 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: Please play responsible. He must be eighteen years older to 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: purchase player find John is on vacation. I'm here with 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Deborah Mark, our news presenter. We are wishing well Craig Coope. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: He is the Norco market and liquor owner. You may 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: have heard this story Norco out there in Riverside County 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: about three in the morning. They wanted to rob him 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: four men came. One came into the store with quite 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: the weapon and Craig was not having it, and he 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: opened fire with a shotgun and that Robert ran screaming, 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: he shot my arm off. We hope to talk to 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Craig tomorrow because he apparently had a minor heart attack 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: after all this, and people out there are coming to 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: the liquor store to show their appreciation and of course 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: to wish him well. So hopefully tomorrow he'll be listening. 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Craig. Cope. Got an update coming up 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: in a few minutes. Also on the La County Board 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: of Supervisors. One thing did happen, one thing did not 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: happen concerning and that second thing as the recall of 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the La County District Attorney George Gascone. Because the way 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: people are reacting to this Norco liquor store story tells 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: you the frustration that's out there over the criminal justice 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: breakdown that's occurred in the state and certainly in La County. 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's turn our attention to the oh the less. 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: We have a brand new case study which is coming 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: to us from the Pacific Research Institute that we're going 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: to be talking now to Wayne Winegarden, Senior Fellow in 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: Business and Economics, And of course, the main thing about 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: it is the housing first measures that have been pushed 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: for far too long here in California, the state, the county, 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: the city, no matter where you are, most of the 44 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: people in charge of the money believe all you have 45 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: to do is get him into housing, get him into 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: a shelter, get him into a motel room. It's a failure. 47 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: We'll talk about why that is. So, Wayne, welcome to 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the show. Thanks so much for having me. All right, so, 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: how did you approach this study? Tell us what you 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: guys put together here. What we really wanted to see 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: is we've had a couple of months in home Key Party, 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Come Key. We have years of data on housing first programs, 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: which we just said we wanted to see how is 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: it working. And what we see is we're spending billions 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: of dollars. We're spending more and more money, and we're 56 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: actually getting more homeless. In the latest counts, in eight 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: of the ten cities where we have the largest homeless problems, 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: the population continues to increase. In Los Angeles, it's the 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: epicenter of the problem, but one third are still here. 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: We've been doing housing firsts for over five years, if 61 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: not longer here in LA and again populations keep rising. 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: So what we have in projects home key is a 63 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: very expensive program that's not addressing the issue. It's not 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: helping people who are homeless, and it's not helping the 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: community get a handle on not just the homeless problem, 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: but all the inciliary issues that follow off on it. Yeah. 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: I think the approach from these politicians has always been, oh, 68 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, they're just like anybody else. They fell on 69 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: the hard block. Let's just find them some housing. But 70 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: these people have a lot of them have some real 71 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: problems behind that homeless issue. Because if I've said a 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: million times on this show, ask yourself and most people 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: you've known in your life, if you hit on hard times, 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: would you pitch a stent down the street in a park. No, 75 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: the people you know would not do that. But there 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: are people that do that because they have problems with alcohol, 77 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: with drugs, and with mental illness. Did you find that 78 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: to be true? You know, we've been looking into this 79 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: problem for years. My co author Carrie Jackson and I'd 80 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: done several reports. We actually published a book with two 81 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: other gentlemen called no Way Home. And absolutely what you 82 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: see is a large percentage of a homeless in California 83 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: suffer from mental illness, suffer from drug addiction, and as 84 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: opposed to having programs to get people into treatment to 85 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: try to overcome these afflictions, what we're actually doing is 86 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: we're subjudizing that that behavior you actually have a right 87 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: now because of a court decision to live on the street. 88 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: So you're ami, we're actually saying, Okay, you just heard 89 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: it picture tense. And then we've defined down see stealing, 90 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: so you can steal to nine hundred dollars to support 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: your drug habits and not be charged with the felony. 92 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: In fact, such a misdimeter that you don't get charged 93 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: at all. And so we're enabling a destructive lifestyle. And now, 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: which is recently the inevitable consequences. Were you able to 95 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: see anything directly out of Newsom's Project Home Key, I 96 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: mean there was much fanfare he made out of this 97 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when he introduced it during 98 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the pandemic. And this was the idea to get the 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: homeless into like motel rooms because the motels weren't doing 100 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: much business during the pandemic. We're able to see what 101 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: the results of that word did that actually get many 102 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: of these people into permanent housing. I know you cited 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: the overall homeless numbers are up, which would be an 104 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: indicator of that, but did anybody take a closer look 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: where these people ended up that ended up in these 106 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: hotel rooms. Yes, And what we've found when we looked 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: at the later study, we explicit locan product tone key 108 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: and what you see, whether it's Los Angeles, San Francisco, 109 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: or anywhere else in the state, perfect example, about one 110 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: third maybe if that much, will end up in permanent housing. 111 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: A large share which you see is not only is 112 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: the destructive behavior still occurring in the project home heat residences, 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: but people are actually dying of overdoses, so that they're 114 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: not overcoming what drove the homelessness. That destructive behavior just 115 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: moved into these these facilities. There's violence that's perpetrated against 116 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: the people who are volunteering there. So you have continued 117 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: drug use, continued drug overdose, gets violent, A small percentage 118 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: gett into permanent housing. Others either are back on the streets, 119 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: are still in terms of temporary kind of revolving door issue, 120 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: but because we're prioritizing the the housing first, the housing 121 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: and not prioritizing the treatment getting at the root cause. 122 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: That drove kind of led to people into this situation. 123 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: We're not actually addressing the problem, we're not reducing the 124 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: number of homeless, we're just basically subsidizing it. And what's 125 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: really troubling is we're spending tens of billions of dollars 126 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: doing this, and we had a very difficult with the 127 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: recession that we're facing, we're gonna have a very difficult 128 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: budget environment. So now we've wasted all this money on 129 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: these ineffective programs that are very expensive. One hundreds of 130 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars per ruin is what we're spending, not 131 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: from the solving the problem. So we still have the 132 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: problem wasting all the money, and now we're gonna have 133 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: budget problems, so we're not going to have the resources 134 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to do what's necessary. We really put ourselves in a 135 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: very difficult position. I don't think that what they did 136 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: basically with housing first, as they took the path of 137 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: least resistance. You offer somebody housing, all right, they might 138 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: say no, but chances are they might say yes. But 139 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: to try to get them into treatment for mental illness 140 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: or drug addiction or alcoholism. Something they might even deny 141 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: that they have wrong with them. They probably just decided 142 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: that would be too difficult. That's why I think we 143 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: do need conservatorship laws to be changed. How do you 144 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: feel about that, bro? I agree. One thing I've been 145 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: advocating is when we need to start enforcing our laws. 146 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: So if you're stealing five hundred dollars worth of goods, 147 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: that needs to be a felony. But what we could 148 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: do is we could use these types of negative interactions, 149 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: if we call it that as it means to get 150 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: somebody into treatment. So if you're homeless and you stom 151 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to being sentenced in jail, sending somebody to 152 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: drug addiction clinic if that's what their affliction is, and 153 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: then if it can statistructurally complete the program, expunge to 154 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: their record, because the idea is to actually help them 155 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: transition out of this destructive right style. And so if 156 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: we use homeless courts correctly, if we use different types 157 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: of positive interactions and day rooms to try to bring 158 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: people in and get them to help, and like you said, 159 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: in some cases, if somebody is mentally you know, dealing 160 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: with mental illness. If they don't have the ability to 161 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: make rational decisions, then we're going to need to actually 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: as a community do that because having that destructive lifestyle 163 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: or a person with mental illness who could be dangerous 164 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: to the community, who could be even if they're not violent, 165 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: there you know, the drug needles and the phases and 166 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: all the other consequences to the quality of life just 167 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: can't go on. So we need to actually make those 168 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: hard decisions and move people into treatments where we can help, 169 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: where we can help them. Yeah, what we've seen happen 170 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: over the years, particularly in the last year or so here, 171 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: and I want to see what your thoughts are on this. 172 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: They're now putting somebody in a shelter or a motel 173 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: room is no good anymore. What they want to do 174 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: here is build this expensive, permanent what they call supportive housing. 175 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: So you picture these big complexes. They build the apartments 176 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: and in there they have mental health counseling, they have 177 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: job counseling, they have all of these supportive services. But 178 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: our our approach that is that's really expensive. I don't 179 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: know if you're going to be able to have enough 180 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: money to do that, and of course once people realize 181 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: you're building them something that nice, you're probably just gonna 182 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: end up with more homeless people coming to California. Yeah, no, 183 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: you can't do you want. It's unsustandable financially, and so 184 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: you need to stop that. We need to we need 185 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: to go back to the institutionalized model because it's cost effective. 186 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: It obviously it needs to be run professionally, it needs 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: to be clean, you know, it needs to be a 188 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: good environment. But we need to be able to do 189 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: this cost effectively. If we're going to do this sustainably, 190 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to build one unit 191 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: which has a good chance of actually being destroyed by 192 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, people who are just not prepared or not 193 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 1: able to tom to live in a home is not 194 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: is not the solution. All right, Doctor r Wayne wine Garden, 195 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. I appreciate it. He's with the 196 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: Pacific Research Institutes and he came on the show. He's 197 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: a senior fellow in Business and Economics to talk about 198 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: a new case study he did along with his co 199 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: author Kerry Jackson, about the failure of housing first policies 200 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: to deal with homelessness, something we've mentioned on this show 201 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: for many years, and again Michael Schellenberger, who ran for governor, 202 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: knew all about the failure of this idea of housing first, 203 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: where you're completely ignoring the dysfunction that's behind the homelessness. 204 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: We've got more coming up here on the John and 205 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Ken Show on KFI. More on the homeless next hour. 206 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: I'll be talking to La City Council and Joe Buscayano. 207 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: It was rowdy, it was crazy. Today the La City 208 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: Council voted to prohibit homeless encampments near schools and daycare centers, 209 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: but they were interrupted. In fact, the whole thing had 210 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: to be shut down for a while because the homeless 211 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: activists were there trying to shut the vote down. It 212 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: was really an overwhelming votes at eleven to three in 213 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: favor of banning the encampments. Of course, Joe has wanted 214 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: that for a long time and they shut him down. 215 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk to him after the news at four thirty 216 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: in about an hour coming up after three thirty. Blowback 217 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: in a town in the South Bay of La County 218 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: where apparently there are plans to build a rather big 219 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: housing structure in a neighborhood that's not used to that, 220 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: which could bring a lot of traffic and a lot 221 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: of other problems. You'll find out where and we'll talk 222 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: to one of those who's organizing an effort to stop 223 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: this large housing project from being built. That comes up 224 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: all after the news at three thirty, I had given 225 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: you a heads up yesterday that it was possible that 226 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: the La County Register of Voters was going to inform 227 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the La County Board of Supervisors as to whether or 228 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: not there are enough verified signatures to put the recall 229 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: of George Gascon the Ela County DA on the ballot. Well, 230 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: the letter was sent by the registrar to the Board 231 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: of Supervisors telling them when they have their regular Tuesday 232 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: meeting that would be today, August two, it's possible that 233 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: he will give them the results. And he did that 234 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: as a formality because if it does qualify for the ballot, 235 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: they need to know that because they have to set 236 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: the election date within thirty days. So he just wanted 237 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: to give them their heads up. On the other hand, 238 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: obviously if it doesn't qualify for the ballot, them to 239 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: do anything. We understand that it was removed from the 240 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: agenda which means they're not done with the signature verification 241 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: process and the recall of George Gascon. So if it's 242 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: not next week, I think the week after would have 243 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: to be the end. I think by August sixteenth or seventeenth, 244 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: they pretty much have to be done with the signature 245 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: verification process, So we'll see what happens with that. What 246 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: the Board of Supervisors did do today is they voted 247 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: four to one to put a measure on the November 248 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: ballot for La County voters to give them the power 249 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: to remove an elected sheriff from office who not an 250 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: elected sheriff, the elected sheriff, who right now is Alex 251 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: vien Aueva. Now, it could be a little bit ironic 252 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: that the day that everybody votes on this measure will 253 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: be the same day they vote as to whether or 254 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: not to keep vien Aueva's sheriff. It's possible this passes 255 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: and he loses the election, but I guess they still 256 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: want that power. The only no vote was Catherine Barger, 257 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: who has made it very clear by the way she 258 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: was the only one a couple of weeks ago to 259 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: be against returning the indoor mask mandate to La County. 260 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: You got one county politician one out of the five 261 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: on the side of sanity. Sheila Kuell, who I threw 262 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: in the dumpster last Friday, was in fine form. Again. 263 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't see the assessor getting people killed. It's really 264 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: about the ability to hold someone accountable when they have 265 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: a very powerful position. Well, the sheriff is elected by 266 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: the people, there's a recall, there's another election. There are 267 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: ways to remove the sheriff that are done the way 268 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: we usually do it through votes. Kuel of course she's 269 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: talking about the La County Assessor, who is also in 270 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: an elected office. So that was her little snipe there, 271 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: that Dobel, he doesn't get people killed. Yet Sheriffy in 272 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: a wave gets people killed. See the mindset of this 273 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: Board of supervisors, right, They're anti jail. They're closing all 274 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: the La County jails down. They believe in these diversion programs. 275 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: Remember a couple of weeks ago, we had a woman 276 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: on the air who years ago, when she was a 277 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: La County Deputy DA, she got attacked by that man 278 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: that apparently uses weapons on women, including the former Olympic 279 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: volleyball star who got hit with a weapon that guy 280 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: got sent to diversion. They keep doing the same thing 281 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: over and over again with him. Diversion programs, all right, 282 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: they don't always work. There are people in our guests 283 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: said she kind of believed in that program, but not 284 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: for a serial offender like this guy who has a 285 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: pensiont for hitting women with objects. This is your board 286 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: of supervisors and the path they want to take us on. 287 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: It's just as dangerous as the Elle County DA. They're 288 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: on the same track. They're working together. We close down 289 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: the jails because you know, the DA is not going 290 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: to send anybody to jail. The other thing about she lookule, 291 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: you have to know too, she's really got it in 292 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: for Sheriff v and AUEVA because apparently he's got an 293 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: investigation into a board appointed Inspector General by the name 294 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: of Max Huntsman and into county contracts involving a non 295 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: profit that is run by an oversight panel member. This 296 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: is this civilian oversight board that's supposed to keep an 297 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: eye on the sheriff and the idiot voters in La 298 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: County voted for that a couple of years ago, and 299 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: they've been feuding with Vin A Waver for as long 300 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: as he's been in office, and they keep coming up 301 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: with ways, so they put together some oversight panel of civilians. 302 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, that oversight panel is run by a woman 303 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: who's associated with Sheila cule And apparently, if you don't 304 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: remember the story, that particular nonprofit ran this dope La 305 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 1: County hotline for people that wanted to report that they 306 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: were sexually assaulted on La County transit and they got 307 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: like just a couple of calls a month. It was 308 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money that went out the door. And 309 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: vien A Waver said, we need to take a closer 310 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: look at that, and that got the Sheila cuele. That's 311 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: why she's pretty bitter, all right. Coming up next, another 312 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: local neighborhood battles a large housing construction project, which believed me, 313 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: I know the area, well, it will look oddly out 314 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: of place where they want to put it. I'll talk 315 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: next to my guest on the John and Ken Show 316 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: on kfive. We'll have more at four oh five on 317 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: the Norco liquor store owner who defended himself when a 318 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: robber came in with quite the weapon. He was ready 319 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: with his shotgun and he fired away and he injured 320 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: the robber who ran out along with his accomplices ran 321 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: from the scene. This is an amazing story and we 322 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: wish the liquor store owner good health. His name is 323 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: Craig Cope's eighty and apparently he did have some sort 324 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: of a heart attack after this happened, and his recovering. 325 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: We're hoping to talk to him tomorrow, but we'll talk 326 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: about the story and how it represents the frustration of 327 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: many because people are showing up at the liquor store 328 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: today to support the owner. We don't know anything about 329 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: charges anyway, but of course many will say, oh, and 330 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: this gun culture, how dare you use violence? And I'm 331 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: sure we're going to hear the usual crowd, like you know, 332 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: writers with the l Segundo Times, just doing the tisk 333 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: about this manned defending his turf and his store that 334 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: apparently he has owned for fifty five years. So that 335 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: I'll come up at four or five on the John 336 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: and Ken Show and then we'll be talking. Accouncilman Joe 337 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: Puskayano is pretty rowdy today, as the La City Council 338 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: did approve an ordinance to ban homeless encampments within five 339 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: hundred feet of schools and daycares, all of them in 340 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: LA This would be the most restrictive when it comes 341 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: to those types of properties. But it wasn't without a 342 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of chaos because the activists showed up and tried 343 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: to shut the whole thing down, right, not representing most 344 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: of the residents of the city, but of course they 345 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: always get the attention of the politicians. So we'll talk 346 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: to Joe in about an hour. On the John and 347 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Ken Show, we heard from a woman by the name 348 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: of Gail Fortist who's now coming on the show. The 349 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: website they put together is called Chill the Build dot Com. 350 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: A big subject on our show last year and the 351 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: year before were these bills in Sacramento, which ultimately did 352 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: pass and were signed by Governor Newsom allowing the construction 353 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: of some pretty large housing units in neighborhoods across the 354 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: state that don't see anything like that happening right now. 355 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: You probably heard us talk about SP nine and SP 356 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: ten over the years. That seems to be connected to 357 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: this story. For this one, we're going to go to 358 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: a neighborhood in Manhattan Beach where apparently they want to 359 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: build a four story, seventy nine unit complex at a 360 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: busy corner. It's Rosecrans and Highland Avenue in Manhattan Beach 361 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: and people residents of that town have gotten together organized 362 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: a group. They have a petition at change dot org, 363 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: and of course, as I mentioned, a website Chill the 364 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Build dot com to try to battle this construction project. So, yeah, 365 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: welcome to the John and Ken Show. How are you. 366 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm good? Thank you. Yeah, So, explain to people when 367 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: you found out about this and many more details. Well, 368 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: the detail I know is it's something that's been brewing 369 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: for a little more than a year with the city council. 370 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: We all learned of it. It kind of leaked out 371 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: at a meeting in I believe in March, so that's 372 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: barely three months ago. And yet it's been brewing in 373 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: the background. Plans have been going back and forth with 374 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: the city planning and our local newspaper, The Beach Reporter, 375 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: reported it. They went to a council meeting and then 376 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: there it was, And then immediately change dot org got 377 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: a petition going. Three thousand, five hundred people signed it, 378 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: and a group of us that live in the Elporto area, 379 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: which is the most northwest corner of Manhattan Beach and 380 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: the most congested area of the city and the maiden 381 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: thoroughfare in and out of the city. We got together 382 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: and we've decided to take on City Hall. I happen 383 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: to know the area well, Rosecrans and Highland, would I 384 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: know to be there on that particular corner, there's a 385 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant, there's a big parking garage. Where are they 386 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: putting this this four story seilding. You are exactly right. 387 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: It is catty corner to Poncho's Literally catty corner to 388 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: Poncho's is a parking structure owned by the City of 389 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach. And just behind it, like the borderline of 390 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: that parking structure is what's considered the project area called 391 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, Rosecrans Highland backslash Project Verandas. And there's two 392 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: very small buildings on Rosecrans. The parking lot is literally 393 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: on Highland and this property is right behind all of 394 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, and I guess the complaint here is 395 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: and I guess the term you guys are using. We 396 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: enjoy our low profile lifestyle. Of course, in California there's 397 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of single family housing. This was an effort 398 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: in Sacramento to try to crack that and turn neighborhoods 399 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: that are all single family homes into some large structures 400 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: being built. You didn't know about these bills going through 401 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: Sacramento the last couple of years. Yes, we did. Those rules, 402 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: those rules are being used to the advantage of developers. 403 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: There's loopholes that allow them to skirt local zoning, these 404 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: bonus density laws. And then in our instance, the builder 405 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: was so generous and offering six low income units to 406 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: get the benefit of a ministerial nature, so that between 407 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: those two they can skirt all local zoning overbuild, not 408 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: have enough parking, not have a good in and out 409 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: of the property, you know, without causing havoc and gridlock here. 410 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: So where did this get approval from? Was it the 411 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: local government or how did this work? Do you know? 412 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: So the builder used the SB nine and FB ten 413 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: and approach the city and it went to city planning first, 414 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: and they apparently looked at whatever the rules were. All 415 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the boxes, I guess were checked according to SB nine 416 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: and SB ten, those two Senate bills, and from there 417 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: several appeals were made by local people here and the 418 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: city planning turned it down and said no, sorry, we're 419 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: following the rules, this can go forward. So now we're 420 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: at the city council level. That's a meeting tonight and 421 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: was a meeting two weeks ago, and then the final 422 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: meeting where they're going to make a decision or not 423 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: to approve it and allow it to go forward is 424 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: August seventeenth. So tonight bunch of us are going to 425 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: talk about why it's not a wise move, sell our 426 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: city council to please do their job. What we're pushing 427 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: for now is the importance of a sequence study the 428 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: environmental issues. That it's right next to Chevron Treatment Plant, 429 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: an oil refinery that's been there since nineteen eleven. There's 430 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: lots of liquid probium under the ground. I mean they 431 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: already know there's all sorts of stuff there, and yet 432 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: they're allowed to skirt the rules because of the ministerial 433 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: and the bonus density laws. So yes, somebody needs to 434 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: follow the money. Because when we saw these bills marching 435 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: through Sacramento, we knew it was about the developers. I 436 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: mean there's a crowd that just believes whatever it is, 437 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: just build it because the state needs more housing, So 438 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: just get it done, whether or not it's low income 439 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: housing or medium housing or luxury housing. Just get it done. 440 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: But it just benefits the developers to do this. And 441 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: for the people that live in this area of Manhattan 442 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: Beach you're describing, it will completely change the look of 443 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: the neighborhood with this, with large four story thing going up. Yes, 444 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: it'll change the complexion of the city forever and set 445 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: a precedent other big units can go in everywhere and 446 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: just keep going. So we need to stop this now. 447 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense for our community. It does. It's 448 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: not healthy environmentally, it's not good for the city. And 449 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: we're pro building. We agree. We need building, we need apartments, 450 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: we need you know, the diversity is good. That's what 451 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: makes the community a great community. But not this from 452 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: highland looking up at this thing, because the highland is 453 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: down low and the property slopes up at this point. 454 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: It's a pretty sky hill. Where I live and where 455 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: this is located is called the sand Section. It's actually 456 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: on a sand dune, so it's up and if you 457 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: stand on Highland and look up at where fifty feet 458 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: will be this four story building kind of be like, yeah, 459 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: like a skyscraper in New York City, right, I could 460 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: imagine that I know exactly what you're talking about. So 461 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: now the city council and the city attorney have told 462 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: you there's nothing they can do. Is that what we're hearing? Well, yeah, 463 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: that's what they said, there's nothing they can do. In 464 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: other words, all the boxes are checked, they're following the 465 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: state rules. And we've heard from other land use attorneys 466 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: that is not true. And we're surprised that our council 467 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: is allowing us to go through and that our assistant 468 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: city attorney said that. It's like what attorney says that, 469 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: oh there's nothing we can do. I mean, have you 470 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: ever heard that coming out the attorney? Now, well, all right, Gail, 471 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: wish you all the luck again for people that want 472 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: to find out more, it's chill the build dot com. 473 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: It's a pretty good website to give you all the 474 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: information that you need to find out. And again you've 475 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: got a petition at change dot org as well. All right, yes, 476 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: we do, all right, Gail, good luck, keep us posted, 477 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: let us know what happens next. Thank you, John, Bye bye. Okay, 478 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: it was Ken. That's kind of said, right, Deborah, she 479 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: called me John. It's okay, he didn't mean it. People 480 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: think we're both here. I mean, that's kind of the 481 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: power of the show, right people, anyway, we love you Ken. 482 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: That's Gail Fortis. She's a resident of Manhattan Beach and 483 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: we knew this was going to happen when Senate Bills 484 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: nine and ten past that. Apparently she was aware of it, 485 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: and so we're probably her neighbors. But a lot of 486 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: people in California weren't aware of these bills, and they're 487 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna see one day something rather large is being constructed 488 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Multi family housing. This one in Manhattan 489 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Beach is going to be a four story, seventy nine 490 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: unit complex on a pretty busy corner in the northern 491 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: part of Manhattan Beach. And again, right now, with single 492 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: family housing, the hike limits there are much lower. So 493 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: this bugger is really going to stand out more. Coming 494 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: up on the John and Ken Show right here on 495 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. Coming up in the next hour, 496 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna salute eighty year old Craig Cope and wish 497 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: him well. He is the Norco liquor store owner who 498 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: opened fire on a would be robber who came into 499 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: the store very early in the morning. Sunday, almost three 500 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: in the morning. Craig was behind the counter and he 501 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: looked at his surveillance cameras and saw it didn't look 502 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: good in the parking lot. What was going on. They 503 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: pulled up in their SUV and they were masked and 504 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: they had their weapons, and he says, I think I 505 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. So we got a shotgun 506 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: ready and he fired away. We'll give you all the details, 507 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: and we're hoping to talk to him tomorrow. So we 508 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: were told that he's a Johnny Ken show listener and 509 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: he will talk to us, and we expect it to 510 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: be tomorrow. Because the follow up was that apparently he 511 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: did have a hard problem after all this went down 512 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: and had to be taken to the hospital. But supposedly 513 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: he is recovering. So we'll give you all of this 514 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: coming up in the four o'clock hour. Also a taste 515 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: of this. This was part of the audio from today's 516 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: La City Council meeting. They voted rather overwhelmingly. I think 517 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: it was eleven to three to ban homeless encampments from 518 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: within five hundred feet of schools and daycare centers in 519 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: the city of La. The activists showed up, tried to 520 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: shut the whole thing down. I guess they knew which 521 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: way the vote was going to go, and their only 522 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: answer was, let's just disrupt us so they can't vote. 523 00:29:47,920 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: Here's some of the noise that's a reference to Nurri Martine. 524 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Get out here, Nie. Who are these people? And of 525 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: course it's the middle of the day, they can make 526 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: their way down to the La City Council. These are 527 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: the people that are blocking any change with their homeless policies. 528 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: These are the people that whenever they try to clean 529 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: up a homeless encampment, they shut up. They show up, 530 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: and they blocked the police, and they blocked the people 531 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: that are there, the sanitation people that are there to 532 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: clear up the encampment. They want people to continue to 533 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: live on the streets and die as they do. This 534 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: is the opposition council of Jobus. Guyana will join me 535 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: after four thirty to talk about this. It was also 536 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: announced this afternoon that as far as La Unified School 537 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: District is concerned, and I'm not sure that John and 538 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: Kent show has too many listeners with students in La 539 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: and if I, but we have a few that they 540 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: are stepping back from all their COVID nineteen safety protocols. 541 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: The Tides of Times put it that were among the 542 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: most far reaching in the country that they were crazy 543 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: and they've resulted in a lot of learning loss for students. 544 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: So they're going to mirror current county requirements what does 545 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: that mean? And end to weekly universal testing for coronavirus 546 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: no baseline testing before the August fifteenth start at school. 547 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Every time I see that, I can't believe it because 548 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: I remember the countdown to school ending in May or June. 549 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: It feels like the other day, but we're just a 550 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks away from school starting again. Masking will 551 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: be voluntary and a continued deferment of the district's vaccination 552 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: mandate for students in the system. Their daily pass system 553 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: will ramp down from its prior use as a campus 554 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: entry requirement that had to be inspected every day. So 555 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: they're coming back to normal life as we all should. 556 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: And as I've mentioned before, we get the daily report 557 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: from the l Account Health Department, it looks like the 558 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: positive cases and hospitalizations are continuing to slow. Once again. 559 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: This thing has a two month cycle or so where 560 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: things ramp up, then they ramped down, But these particular 561 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: variants are not making people extremely sick. We do not 562 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: have an overwhelming situation at the hospitals. It should be 563 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: treated that way. It's kind of hard to believe that 564 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: that finally got through to Barbara Ferrere in the Health 565 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: Department last week when they did not make us go 566 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: back to indoor masking. And now the LA Unified School 567 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: District is not going to require daily testing, and for 568 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: now the vaccination mandate is going to be deferred and 569 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: masks are optional. All right. Coming up next, we'll talk 570 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: about the wild story of the day, this Norco liquor 571 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: store owner who stood his ground when a robber made 572 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: his way into the store with a weapon in hand 573 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: or really menacing looking weapon and the store owner not 574 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: taking any chances fired. First John and Ken Show KFI 575 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: AM six forty. Debra Mark has the news. Now it's 576 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: never been more important to diversify your financial portfolio. Well, 577 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: that's right. The S ANDP is down twenty percent from 578 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: the last year, and this year looks even worse. 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