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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What does a mysterious cash

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Speaker 1: at ransom note tell us about the missing Texas beauty? Tonight?

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Speaker 1: Where is Kelly? I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: We're asking any residents in the city of Baytown in

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Speaker 2: the Houston area to check their properties, out buildings, and

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Speaker 2: any surveillance footage from the days around her disappearance. Any

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Speaker 2: detail could provide critical information to help us bring her

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Speaker 2: home and low care.

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Speaker 1: That from our friends at kp RC two Houston. Kelly's

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Speaker 1: family is desperate for your help. Let me just give

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Speaker 1: you the tip line right off the top. Seven eight

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us tonight. Joining us is

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Speaker 1: Kelly's mother. First of all, straight out to Kelly's mother,

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Speaker 1: Casey Richardson, Miss Richardson, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: I've just got to ask you, right off the top,

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Speaker 1: how do you put one foot in front of the

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Speaker 1: other with your baby missing? I call her your baby.

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Speaker 1: I know she's a grown, beautiful, lovely young woman, but

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Speaker 1: how are you doing it?

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Speaker 3: I have a autistic child i'm raising. Two of them

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Speaker 3: are in elementary, one of them is in three girls

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Speaker 3: that i'm raising still, and that is what's keeping me going.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a choice, these babies I have to raise.

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Speaker 1: When did you first realize Kelly is missing? I wrote

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Speaker 1: the twenty second what happened Miss Richardson.

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Speaker 4: It was about eleven something am and I got a

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Speaker 4: phone call from a unknown number that I didn't recognize,

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Speaker 3: All I could hear was a man yelling over and

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Speaker 3: over and over I want my f and money.

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Speaker 5: I want my f and money. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 5: what's going on? And he's like, no, she e f

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Speaker 5: and stole from me. I want my f and money.

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Speaker 5: And I said wait, wait, who what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: And then Kayley is in the background going, Mama, please

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Speaker 3: help me. My face is so disformed, Mama, please, And

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Speaker 3: I can hear them in the background, and every time

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Speaker 3: she tries, she'd get pistol whipped.

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Speaker 1: How do you what makes you think she was being

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Speaker 1: pistol whipped in the background because the guy.

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Speaker 3: In the other background, and the other guy in the

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Speaker 3: background was like, that's enough, man, that's enough. You know

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Speaker 3: no more and every time she got hate, I need

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Speaker 3: to hear her screaming.

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Speaker 1: Kelle Goodwin, a beautiful young girl. Her whole world in

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Speaker 1: front of her has seemingly vanished off the face of

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Speaker 1: the earth. And then this disturbing phone call to her mother,

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Speaker 1: Casey joining us, now joining me an all star panel

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Speaker 1: in addition to Kelly's mom straight out to Lauren Conlin

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Speaker 1: joining us investigative reporter. You can find her at Popcrime

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Speaker 1: Dot TV. Lauren, thank you for being with us. I

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Speaker 1: want to take this from A to Z starting at

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Speaker 1: the beginning. Tell me what happened at the onset, Lauren.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 8: So Kaylee was last seen being picked up by an

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Speaker 1: She told a friend that she was going to.

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Speaker 9: Visit a friend in Houston, and now we know that

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Speaker 9: she subsequently went missing after her mother received this phone call.

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Speaker 10: The day after Kaylee heads to Houston, mom Casey Richardson

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Speaker 10: gets a call from an unknown number. When she picks

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Speaker 10: he claims Kaylee stole from his car. In the background,

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Speaker 10: Casey can hear Kaylee crying and screaming for help. Then

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Speaker 10: she hears her daughter get hit with something metal. Kaylee

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Speaker 10: cries out, help me, mom, they're beating me. My face

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Speaker 1: Miss Richardson, are you convinced that your daughter was truly

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Speaker 1: being beaten? A lot of people are arguing, with which

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Speaker 1: I disagree. I might add, your daughter has no history

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Speaker 1: of scamming, of hoaxing, nothing, and from what I understand,

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Speaker 3: A mother knows their child's scare, voice in scarecry.

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Speaker 11: At the end of the day, you can't fake that

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Speaker 1: And we learn more about this cash demand.

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Speaker 12: Listen, Casey can hear someone continuing to hit Kaylee and

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Speaker 12: eventually the caller tells them to stop. The caller tells

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Speaker 12: they will continue to hurt Kaylee. When they hang up,

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Speaker 12: Casey frantically tries to call Kaylee, but she isn't picking

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Speaker 1: of that hang up? I immediately called my husband.

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Speaker 3: He walked off the site of his job twenty five

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Speaker 1: Tell me how much were they asking for when they

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Speaker 13: This conversation went on for a good nine minutes. So

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Speaker 13: I at first was like, look, look, just calm down.

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Speaker 7: And I tried to, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, blame the mama, bear with him.

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Speaker 3: You know, like I understand, you know, And I tried

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Speaker 3: And I realized this wasn't a joke, and I said, please,

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Speaker 3: I will get you the money.

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Speaker 1: Just stop hurting her. I beg you please stop hurting her.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons, joining us Director Operations the

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Speaker 1: USPA Nationwide Security specializing and locating missing people. He has

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Speaker 1: served in Iraq and beyond. Brian, thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us. Doesn't any idiot know that cash app is traceable? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: This was certainly perplexing Nancy that the demand was made

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Speaker 7: of Kayley's captor, you know right away, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: But on the other hand, to Wendy Patrick, joining US

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Speaker 1: California prosecutor, founder of black Swan Verdicts and author of

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Speaker 1: Why Bad Looks Good and many more, Wendy, just like

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Speaker 1: you can set up a fake email, you can get

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Speaker 1: a fake phone. You know, you can have an alternate

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Speaker 1: cell phone number, untraceable, well for most purposes, untraceable back

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Speaker 1: to you. You can also set up a fake cash

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Speaker 6: It's easy to be done, And Nancy, that's one of

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Speaker 6: the reasons we need much more than simply tracing a

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Speaker 6: current phone, whether it's a burner phone, whether it's a

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Speaker 6: sounds in the background, accent. So there's so much more

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Speaker 6: Because you're right, that's a dime a dozen. You buy

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Speaker 6: to start when you're starting at the beginning of an investigation.

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Speaker 1: You know, Karen's starting with me. We're now a psychologist,

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Speaker 1: radio TV trauma experts. She's at karenstart dot com. Karen.

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Speaker 1: I find it very peculiar. Of course, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: the cause of crime, generally speaking, including especially violent crime.

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Speaker 1: But to go to all of this for six hundred

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Speaker 1: and then you use a cash app account, which is

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Speaker 1: going to a fake phone number, going to a fake email.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of effort for six hundred dollars.

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Speaker 14: I don't think it's about the six hundred dollars, Nancy,

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Speaker 14: somebody who enjoys doing what he's doing. He's a sociopath,

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Speaker 14: he's a narcissist. He wants to inflict pain. He doesn't

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Speaker 14: enjoyment from the fact that I'm sorry to her mom.

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Speaker 14: But he does get enjoyment from people suffering, or he

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Speaker 14: We need to understand that this is something that has

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time that a ransom or

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Speaker 1: something much more sinister. Do I need to bring up

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Speaker 1: the name John Benet Ramsey. In the John bene Ramsey case,

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Speaker 1: the amount of the ransom in itself was peculiar, much

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Speaker 1: as in the case the case in Chief of Killey.

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Speaker 1: It was one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars, a very

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Speaker 1: peculiar amount for a kidnapper to ask for. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the ransom and the amount of that was all a

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Speaker 1: lie and it covered for a murder. John Beney was

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Speaker 1: in the home writing not only a ransom note, but

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Speaker 1: a practice ransom note. What does that mean in this case?

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Speaker 1: The case we're talking about today the case of Killy Goodwin.

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Speaker 1: To you, Brian Fitzgils, following up on what Karen start

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Speaker 1: just said about the ransom being bogus to six hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: it's a crazy amount to go through all of that

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Speaker 1: for six hundred dollars, to beat Kelly, to call her

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that doesn't make sense, Nancy. Six hundred dollars is

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Speaker 7: the slightest that that her captor is not stable.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Gray.

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Speaker 10: Kaylee Brooke Goodwin, aged twenty nine, lives in Baytown, Texas,

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Speaker 10: a suburb of Houston. She's a beloved granddaughter, daughter, sister,

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Speaker 10: and dog mom to Pomeranian tinker Bell. Kaylee is close

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Speaker 10: with her mom, Casey Richardson, and is known as a

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Speaker 1: Calls Ellie law enforcement, she is highly disappointed and deeply

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Speaker 10: Unsure what to do, Casey calls Baytown Police and gives

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Speaker 10: them every detail of the call. However, officers are not

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Speaker 10: convinced Kaylee is in real danger. They ask Casey if

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Speaker 10: Kaylee is low on cash or using drugs, and while

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Speaker 10: Casey denies both theories, officers still believe Kaylee might be

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Speaker 10: ransom phone call is likely an elaborate hoax. Casey continues

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Speaker 10: trying to get in touch with her daughter, but with

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Speaker 1: Man, I would be lying on the police station front

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Speaker 1: steps screaming if they tried to tell me, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: your little girl's not missing. She's probably high on drug

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Speaker 1: she's probably with her boyfriend. She's probably trying to scam you.

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Speaker 1: That's total bs to Casey Richardson, this is Kelly's mom.

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Speaker 1: What happened when you try to report her missing? I

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Speaker 1: call him. We went up.

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Speaker 3: The forensics, everything, so everything is just.

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Speaker 1: you please send me five hundred dollars? That actually is

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Speaker 3: Me, Kelly herself is trying to get me out of money.

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Speaker 1: How would they know that? They don't know, Kelly.

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Speaker 3: It took a week and a half before a detective

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Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, a veteran prosecutor and founder of black

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Speaker 1: Swan of Verdicts, also author Wendy how many times have

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Speaker 1: sheriffs say, oh, she'll be back, she's out. You can

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Speaker 1: trying to scam you. Why that's not their decision to

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Speaker 1: make Wendy Patrick, You're right, We've.

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Speaker 6: Covered plenty, plenty of cases like this where you know.

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Speaker 18: Investigation is an evidence based process, and that is true

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Speaker 6: Now that's not to say there might be some cases

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Speaker 1: Where is a Texas beauty Cally Goodwin goes missing? This

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Speaker 12: Now officially considered a missing person bytown police confirmed with

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Speaker 12: detectives Kaylee said she was going to South Houston. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: So the guy demanding money is not the one registered

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Speaker 1: Now, when you hear the reporter with crimeonline dot Com

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Speaker 1: Danielle Owens. That is what I want to hear first.

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Speaker 1: Who is Danielle Owens who actually owns or is registered

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Speaker 9: Danielle Owens is actually dating this country character. And when

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Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick joining me, California prosecutor and author, Wendy,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you have heard of the so called people

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Speaker 1: Court mom Michelle Parker. She goes missing after she drops

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Speaker 1: The last clue we've got for her is finding her

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Speaker 1: Brian Coburger, who is yet to be proven guilty but

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Speaker 1: his wife Elantra was spotted by seven to eleven. A

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Speaker 6: Absolutely true. And if you think of that, it's why

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Speaker 15: We know what all our neighbors drive.

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Speaker 6: Our vehicles are extensions of ourselves, either personally or professionally.

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Speaker 6: Not only does everybody have some kind of ring camera technology,

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Speaker 7: Yeah. So these are cameras, Nancy, that are capturing either

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Speaker 7: Important to note here that Baytown PD was, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, you're pretty ready to forgive Baytown PD for

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to give them credit for looping in Houston

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Speaker 7: No, I'm certainly not quick to forgive. And you know

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Speaker 1: I was just pointing out, what if they did pick

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Speaker 9: Kayley was picked up at the Decker Drive apartments, and

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Speaker 1: the Kalpoe brothers. She's never seen alive again, but she

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Speaker 1: had Karen Stark the sense that she knew you're in

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Speaker 1: vander Slute because he had been hanging around the group

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Speaker 1: the travel group from Birmingham, so she had had several

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Speaker 1: conversations with him and felt that she knew him well

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Speaker 1: enough to get in the car. She was wrong.

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Speaker 14: And that's a common problem even here, Nati, because you

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Speaker 14: need to be very careful when it comes to going

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Speaker 14: anywhere with a stranger, and especially in this day and age,

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Speaker 14: you just never know who the other person is going

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Speaker 14: to be. You get a false sense of oh, he

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Speaker 14: seems so nice, I know him, but really don't do it.

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Speaker 14: And that's an important warning for everyone who's listening to this.

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Speaker 1: Where is Kelly. We are learning more from the Baytown Police. Listen.

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Speaker 19: Maytown detectives identified a residence where the registered owner of

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Speaker 19: the phone that called Kayley's mother resided. That person was

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Speaker 19: identified as fifty five year old Kevin Patterson. Detectives discovered

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Speaker 19: evidence linking Kaylee to that residence and learned that while

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Speaker 19: at that residence she had been assaulted by mister Flowers

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Speaker 19: and taken from the residence.

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Speaker 1: That from our friends a kp RC two Houston, we're

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Speaker 1: learning a lot, and we're learning that from Baytown Police.

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Speaker 1: They are redeeming themselves. We now know that Baytown detectives

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Speaker 1: id a residence from which the call was made. And

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Speaker 1: I assume they did that Brian Fitzgibbons by pinging the call. Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: because it was a cell phone.

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Speaker 7: Correct, That is correct, Nancy, that's a tremendous mind.

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Speaker 1: And we know the person that is registered to that

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Speaker 1: residence is fifty five year old Kevin Patterson. So now

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at three people. I've got the guy named

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Speaker 1: Country aka Kwon Flowers. I've got the person who is

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Speaker 1: registered to the cash app, his girlfriend, Danielle Owens. And

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Speaker 1: now I've got a guy who allows this call to

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Speaker 1: be made. So now I've got three people involved in this.

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Speaker 1: You were just hearing the Baytown Assistant Chief Steve Doris speaking.

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Speaker 1: So back to Casey Richardson, this is Keilly's mother. That

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Speaker 1: must be overwhelming to think that it's not just one

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Speaker 1: guy who grabbed Keilly. Now you've got three people involved

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Speaker 1: in her disappearance. So supposedly, in the background.

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Speaker 16: Kevin kept saying all right, man, that's enough, that's enough.

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Speaker 16: He's like, no, no, over and over, I want my

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Speaker 16: freaking Winny. And he's like, that's enough, young, that's anough.

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Speaker 16: She supposedly Kevin pat it up and didn't want anything

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Speaker 16: else to go down in his house, or he made

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Speaker 16: Kevin leave with Kaylee.

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Speaker 1: Wife is Gibbons. You have been investigating this from the

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Speaker 1: get go. So to me, you look, out of three people,

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Speaker 1: you look for the weak link. Okay, since Kwan Flowers

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Speaker 1: aka Country is the one we think is beating her,

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Speaker 1: he is not going to roll over and confess. You

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Speaker 1: have to go to the girlfriend, or you have to

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Speaker 1: go to the homeowner. They got so afraid he kicked

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Speaker 1: them out, sadly did not call nine one one, But

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Speaker 1: that must be where they're getting this information from the

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Speaker 1: homeowner or the girlfriend.

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Speaker 7: Correct, And I would say that it's nearly certain that

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Speaker 7: Patterson has given a statement and is cooperating with police.

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Speaker 7: Here he was audibly on the phone trying to get

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Speaker 7: the beatings to stop.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Brian. Listen.

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Speaker 20: Both Kevin Patterson and Kwan Flowers are questioned about Kallie Goodwin.

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Speaker 20: Flowers only answer, last time I saw her, she was

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Speaker 20: in one piece. Flowers, who's on probation for a drug offense,

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Speaker 20: is charged with aggravated kidnapping and assault of kille Goodwin.

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Speaker 20: Flowers has a lengthy rap sheet in and out of

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Speaker 20: state and was even charged with murder in South Carolina

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Speaker 20: twenty years ago, those charges were dropped.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Brianitzgibbons, USPA, you didn't tell me that Flowers aka

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Speaker 1: Country has a rap sheet as long as I seventy five.

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Speaker 1: When you have a group of suspects, you look for

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Speaker 1: the convicted felon. Tell me about this guy's rap shape.

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Speaker 7: Going back as far as two thousand and four in

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Speaker 7: South Carolina, Flowers was arrested in charge with murder. He's

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Speaker 7: got a long list of violent crimes year after year,

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Speaker 7: including animal cruelty charges in South Carolina as well armed robbery,

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Speaker 7: and then, most recently, right now, he is incarcerated and

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Speaker 7: charged with the murder of twenty four year old Megan

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Speaker 7: Rouse in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. Speaking of Megan Rouse, Now we

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Speaker 1: have a very grim connection with this guy who we

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Speaker 1: believe is the one beating Cayley a similar transaction. Listen.

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Speaker 21: Twelve days after Kaylee's disappearance, twenty four year old Meghan

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Speaker 21: Rowse has found severely beaten and shot nine times, dumped

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Speaker 21: on adding Nos, a remote dirt road in South Houston.

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Speaker 21: Rowse last called a friend about an hour before her death,

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Speaker 21: and surveillance footage shows the only car that d down

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Speaker 21: Anagnos road between that call in Meghan's death is the

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Speaker 21: same gray sedan driven by Kwon Flowers. Shellcasings found at

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Speaker 21: the scene are also connected to two other shootings.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 20: Aytown police are extremely concerned for Kayley's well being due

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Speaker 20: to Kuanflower's history of violence, and are asking the public

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Speaker 20: for help to bring Kaylee home. Kayley is five foot five,

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Speaker 20: one hundred and twenty pounds with long brown hair and

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Speaker 20: his lies. She was last seen wearing a sky blue

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Speaker 20: sun dress with a sunflower pattern, black sandals, and a

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Speaker 20: white hoodie.

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Speaker 1: To Kelly's mother, Kasey Richardson joining us, did you ever,

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Speaker 1: in your wildest imagination think that you would be putting

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Speaker 1: out an APB all points bulletin on your daughter and

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Speaker 1: that she was wearing a blue dress with sunflowers and

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Speaker 1: sandals and her description? I did that ever cross your mind?

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Speaker 1: This must seem like it's an episode of the Twilight Zone.

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Speaker 13: It is, and I feel like I'm in a movie

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Speaker 13: because the Beytown Police put out a thing saying that

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Speaker 13: her last her last.

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Speaker 15: Known of appearance was in Bayham. Okay, that's what they

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Speaker 15: have out there.

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Speaker 1: That's not true.

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Speaker 16: Her last appearance was that I don't.

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Speaker 1: Understand Brian Fitzgibbons how there's so much misinformation out there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's frustrating, right, because we know that her last

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Speaker 7: known location was in the vicinity of Irish Hill Drive

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Speaker 7: in Houston, Texas. Right, that's where we need to be

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Speaker 7: looking for eyewitnesses.

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Speaker 21: William Ryan's and his adult daughter are watching TV in

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Speaker 21: their living room when they hear four gunshots. When they

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Speaker 21: feel safe enough to come out of cover, they find

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Speaker 21: shellcasings inside the home. Ryan's daughter later gets a text

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Speaker 21: message taunting her about the shooting, leading her to believe

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Speaker 21: that what was retaliation from acquaintance Country. She says about

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Speaker 21: a week before the shooting, Country lured her into his

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Speaker 21: gray Sedan, tried to make her take drugs from him,

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Speaker 21: then tried a sexually assault her. She identifies Kwon Flowers

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Speaker 21: as Country.

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Speaker 1: There we have our mo modus operandi, method of operation

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Speaker 1: and the connections to how this guy is identified as Country.

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Speaker 1: That's how we know that Kwan Flowers with a huge

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Speaker 1: rap sheet. Why was he out on bon I don't

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Speaker 1: know what, judge, what idiot judge did that, but out

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Speaker 1: on Bonn and here we have another would be kidnap victim.

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Speaker 1: The mo O I understand, Lauren Conlin, is that he

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Speaker 1: lures a young girl into his gray sedan with the

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Speaker 1: promise of In that case, he tried to get her

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Speaker 1: to take drugs and then tried to rape her. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how he lures the person in the car.

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Speaker 1: I think in Killy's case, he met her, seemed like

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Speaker 1: a guy, and offered her a ride to where she

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Speaker 1: wanted to go. But now we've got this woman as

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Speaker 1: an mo O witness, and we have Megan dead as

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Speaker 1: a similar transaction.

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Speaker 9: Yes, this is allegedly a very very dangerous man, and

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Speaker 9: not only that, Nancy. When investigators zeroed in on Country

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Speaker 9: or Kwan Flowers, they actually saw a.

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Speaker 1: Gun, a picture of.

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Speaker 9: A gun on his cell phone that matched the shell

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Speaker 9: casings in all of the events, the shooting of the

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Speaker 9: young woman and also Megan.

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Speaker 1: Ralph Brian Fitzgibbons. We have two believed accomplices, the owner

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Speaker 1: of the home where the call was made, the girlfriend

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Speaker 1: Daniel Owens, and now Flowers. But when he was asked

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Speaker 1: about Kelly, he gave a very nonchalant answer. She was

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Speaker 1: in on pace last time I saw her. Where do

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Speaker 1: we go from here? I mean, think about it, Brian.

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Speaker 1: A mom gets this call with her daughter being assaulted.

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Speaker 1: We know he tried to rape another victim. We know

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Speaker 1: he shot Megan another victim. Where do we go from here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's and what I will say, Nancy, And we

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Speaker 7: can't share all of this information, but Baytown PD is

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Speaker 7: still executing search warrants as recently as ten days ago

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Speaker 7: for Kayley's case. I want to say this so everybody

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Speaker 7: can hear it. This is allegedly one of the more

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Speaker 7: violent episodes of thirty forty five days in Houston history,

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Speaker 7: in the last perpetrated by one person, you know, from

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Speaker 7: the shooting at the apartment complex to Megan Rows and

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Speaker 7: then Kaylee's disappearance. We look at a lot of background reports, Nancy,

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Speaker 7: and this one was jumped off the page as one

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Speaker 7: of the more shocking and it's absolutely disturbing how badly

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Speaker 7: the court system let Kaylee down and let her mother,

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Speaker 7: Casey down.

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Speaker 15: Here.

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Speaker 7: This man should have been behind buyers long ago.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand. And of course we can all

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Speaker 1: say would have, could have, should have, Brian Fitzgibbons, but

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Speaker 1: letting a violent offender out on bond with a murder

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Speaker 1: charge to his credit. I just don't understand how any

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Speaker 1: judge in his or her right mind can do such

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Speaker 1: a thing, and then come along Keilly Goodwin, minding her

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Speaker 1: own business. Never heard, wouldn't kill a fly, sweet, loving, trusting.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me a great deal of Natalie Holloway, no

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Speaker 1: reason to suspect anything evil at all, had always just

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Speaker 1: worshiped her mom. Just a beautiful girl. Casey, what is yours?

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Speaker 15: So there's something else that has not been brought up

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Speaker 15: within those thirty days. He also shut a man blank

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Speaker 15: seven times in the face, but the same gun. And

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Speaker 15: not only that, there shifts thing as a clear alert.

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Speaker 16: It was signed. I saw the sticker.

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Speaker 15: Nobody's using this silver alert, and that's the age is

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Speaker 15: between we have eighteen to the senior citizens, okay, and

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Speaker 15: that's whenever you know that there's some distress and they're

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Speaker 15: supposed to put that up the silver alert. So please

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Speaker 15: tell me why I didn't get a detective for a

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Speaker 15: week and a half after I did this missing report

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Speaker 15: to call me in a week. That gives him two

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Speaker 15: weeks to do whatever he feels with her remains or

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Speaker 15: her body or herself.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 22: I called anonymous and they were like, Kaylee, who uh, well,

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Speaker 22: do you have a A number.

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Speaker 15: A crime number right And I was like, no, Maam,

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Speaker 15: I just heard that I need to call this number.

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Speaker 15: And they were like, well, you're gonna have to call

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Speaker 15: back during the order.

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Speaker 3: Monday to Friday business hours and find a detective stop to.

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Speaker 1: Here is the correct tip line number. Seven eight six

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Speaker 1: five zero nine seven one three five repeat seven eight

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Speaker 1: six five zero nine seven one three five. Casey, what

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Speaker 1: is your message to Kelly?

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Speaker 15: This Mama bear has not stopped for you.

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Speaker 16: That's what she called me, Mama bear.

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Speaker 1: That's what they all call mean. I have not stopped.

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Speaker 15: And baby, if I could have helped you and you called,

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Speaker 15: how it had been there? Old is stopping and I'm

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Speaker 15: sorry I couldn't help you, but I'm not stopping.

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Speaker 1: I'm not stopping.

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Speaker 15: You see what I'm talking to right now? Keyy, you've

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Speaker 15: seen this Mom is not stopped and I will not stop.

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Speaker 1: disappearance of Kelly Goodwin, please help us to applind seven

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off Goodbye friend,