1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 3: You can hear us from one until four, and then 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 3: if you miss stuff after four o'clock, John Cobelt's show 6 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: on demand the podcast on the iHeart app. I missed 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: all the excitement last night. I jeez, sorry, guy had 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 3: a covered. I wouldn't want to be near you if 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: we get fired on it's going to take you away 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: too long. Uh So last night I sleep really deeply. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 4: You're so lucky. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: I have no trouble sleeping. And I went fell asleep 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: like around quarter to ten, and maybe I'll get up 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: once a night to. 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Go to the bathroom. And that's what happened. 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: And I faintly heard the boom, boom boom the helicopters, 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: and my wife says, oh, they're they're having a big 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: riot at UCLA, and I just mumbled something back to 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: back to bed. 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: I didn't want to be lurded to turn on on 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: the TV and watching it because then I'd get caught 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: up and I wouldn't sleep for two hours. So it's like, 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: you know what, I'd whatever the carnage is going to be. 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: It's still going to be there the next morning. Blake 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: trolley is reporting now from UCLA to see the warning 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: the afternoon. After all the excitement last night, I see 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: what's going on there, Blake, how are you? 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: I'm good, John, those commercials for it or since in 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 5: the history of. 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: Time start over again because you got blacked out there. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 5: I said, the commercials for itt Tech have never made 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: more sense in history. 34 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. I mean, I can't believe. 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: I cannot believe the students have to put up with this, 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: and I can't believe how there's nobody willing to clear 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: everything out for the sake of people going to class 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: or exams or whatever they're doing at UCLA this week. 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm just absolutely flabbergasted by that. Yeah. 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: So, just to recap John, last night, things did get 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: pretty heated here when counter protesters stormed the pro Palestinian 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: encampment trying to remove the barriers. That sparked fights breaking out. 43 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 5: Fireworks were actually launched into the Pro Palestinian camp again, 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: this is from counter protesters, and fights broke out. People 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: were spraying bear spray at each other. I rolled up 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: to campus this morning around three point thirty and things 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 5: were still pretty heated. I saw a couple really heated 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: arguments that I thought may actually turn violent. People were 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 5: still chanting. And mind you, this is three point thirty 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: in the morning. I would only imagine this started way 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 5: earlier the next day. Are they by all those fights? 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: There was still a lot of energy on campus. 53 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Are they all jacked up on meth or cocaine? 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: I mean, how did they keep the energy going to 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: three thirty in the morning and they're willing to fight 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: over something that they have no control over. 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 5: Well, one thing I do want to point out, John, 58 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: is that applies are pouring into the camp. 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 6: I sent some video over to your team. You could 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 6: check that out. 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: A couple of things that are happening right now as 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 5: things are a lot quieter, and keep in mind, things 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: may be way quieter tonight. As law enforcement has built 64 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 5: a I don't know, two hundred foot maybe three hundred 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 5: foot maybe hundred yard barrier between the pro Palestinian encampment 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 5: and the rest of campus. That said, you know what 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: we're seeing right now in that Pro Palestinian encampment is 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: that they are reinforcing that barrier. So there's a metal 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 5: kind of fence. You see it at events, you know 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 5: those little metal fences you wait in line with. 71 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're reinforcing the. 72 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 5: Bottom of that with palettes, and then they're putting higher up. 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 5: They're putting that same plywood board that you've been seeing up, 74 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: So they are reinforcing them. 75 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: The police are the Palestinian protesters. 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: The pro Palestinian protesters are putting all those materials up 77 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 5: and then around the backside. And I just tweeted some 78 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: video of this. Supplies are pouring in. I saw plywood. 79 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 5: It looks like some sort of groceries they're pouring in. 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: Why is the administration allowing this? 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: Why don't they kick off all the protesters and dismantle 82 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: all the barriers and stop anything from coming on campus. 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, So the administration came out yesterday and they said 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: that this camp is unlawful and that students participating in 85 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 5: it will be punished, and that people who are not 86 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 5: students could be criminally charged. That said, all we've seen 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 5: so far is police getting involved in with the means 88 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: of separating protesters. 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 6: Now, John, I do want to go to this. 90 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: You know, protesters for a while have not been the 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 5: most media friendly. I'm sure you've played some of the clips, 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: We've seen some of the clips of media trying to 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 5: speak with protesters. Well, today they are being a little 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: bit more chatty. And I had this conversation with a 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 5: twenty year old protester who was willing to talk to media, 96 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 5: and the first or one of the first things I 97 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 5: wanted to know was, what will your response be if 98 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: law enforcement comes in here and uh and tries to 99 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 5: dismantle this camp it has been deemed unlawful. Take a listen, 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 5: would you guy? What will this scenario be though? If 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 5: law enforcement comes in and does try to clear the encampment? 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 5: What kind of response are Do you have one planned 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 5: or do you guys have a plan if that happens? 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Mmm? I think like it's important to it's it's more 105 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: important to think about why the university is calling law 106 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: enforcement on us, Like why why number one did they 107 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: not for so long? Like like when they meant the 108 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: law enforcement didn't do anything to protect. 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Us at all. 110 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: If you look at the videos, the cops stood in 111 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: a line and watched, the campus security left, the private 112 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: security stood and watched and laughed and looked at us, right, 113 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: and so yeah, that's uh, we don't see them as 114 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: as protectors. We don't see them as here to to 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: take care of us. We don't see them as here 116 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: to stop the violence at all. We're gonna protect ourselves. 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna protect each other. That's all I can say 118 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: to that, really, But I mean, we're saying until divestment, divestment, divestment. 119 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: Divestment, that is our goal. 120 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: That is what we're here for. 121 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: We're here for Palestine, We're here for Gazza, and so 122 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to be brave. 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: We're going to stay here. 124 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: If the university tries to kick us out, Ask the 125 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: university why they're trying to kick us out. Ask the 126 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: university why they're trying to stifle student protests, why they're 127 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: refusing to meet us at the bargaining table, why they're 128 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: refusing to protect us. Right, that's who the aggressor is here. 129 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: You have like a list of businesses that you would 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: like them to divest from. Is there like a specific 131 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 5: set list of businesses? 132 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, this is this is you know, the boycott, 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: divest sanctions list is extremely public like and like people 134 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: know who these companies are divesting from. Warren Weapons Manufacturing 135 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: companies we're divesting from, you know, universities in Israel, things 136 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: like that. The lists have been since to the administration. 137 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: They've known what our demands were since before this encampment 138 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: was up. We've been fighting this fight all year, like 139 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: they have known, like a BDS resolution was passing twenty 140 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: fourteen at UCLA. They know, they know what our demands are. 141 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: They know who we are trying. 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: To get them to boycott and our demands. 143 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: It's no secret. And now it's time for them to 144 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: meet us there and to do it. Mm hmm. 145 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 7: Thursday, there seem to be black clad people, young men 146 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 7: rather large. One of them identified and himself to me 147 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 7: as IDF. Have you have you heard anything like that? 148 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 7: I mean, it seems like there's actual people connected to 149 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 7: Israeli armed forces here. 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's there's ex iOS soldiers who are in 151 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: who are parts of the people who are who have 152 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: been harassing us and threatening us and attacking us for days. 153 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: They proudly wear IDF jackets IOF jackets around campus. They 154 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: proudly you know, claim themselves to be you know, part 155 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: of this the militants ions entity. And one of our 156 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: demands right is an end to policing. That is because 157 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the university partners with entities like lapd UCPD Dana that 158 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: train with the IOF. So they like these again, these 159 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: individual people who are coming here to harass and attack us. 160 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: They are a problem. But the bigger problem is that 161 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: universities partner with with Israel. Universities partner with the the 162 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: mass croseral system. Right, that's here too, and it's people. 163 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: And so where we end policing here, we want to 164 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: end policing there. We want to end the genocide there. 165 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 7: At the same time, you would rather that police maybe 166 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 7: step in at. 167 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: Some point last night. 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say that, No, I don't think cops 169 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: are the entities that are going to protect us, right, 170 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: but it is telling. It is telling of the university's 171 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: priorities and of their their concerns about our safety. They 172 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: would have let us die, They would have watched us die. 173 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: We were there for seven hours, like they would have 174 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: just like waited for some terrible, terrible thing to retout 175 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: any intervention. They didn't even call the police until three 176 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: hours in. And it's not that we're asking for police 177 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: presence because you see what they're doing in intensity. We 178 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: don't want more cops on campus, like our demands are 179 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: cops off campus. However, when you see like the fact 180 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: that the university didn't use any of these measures, they 181 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: didn't send us ambulances either, right, they didn't send US police, 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: but they also didn't send us ambulances. They didn't send 183 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: US medics, they didn't send us water, they didn't send 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: us de escalators. They didn't tell the non students to 185 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: get off our campus and to stop harassing us. 186 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 6: So there you have a little bit of it. 187 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: And what's interesting is that it starts with a complaint 188 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 5: that the police were standing back, but then there's also 189 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 5: this notion that we don't even want them on campus. 190 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: So that was one of the funniest recordings I've heard. 191 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: Can you do you send that to the guys over here. 192 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's a lot more of that job that. 193 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: What you got there is fine. I want to hold 194 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: on to that. Uh, do you have anything else? Because 195 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: I got more? 196 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 6: You know what I got more? We can we should 197 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 6: do another segment. 198 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: Okay, then we will. Uh right, we've got more from 199 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: Blake Trolley U c l A. 200 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty. 201 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: More Blake trolley at u C l A. 202 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: Last night the Palestinian protesters uh got invaded by some 203 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: pro Israeli protesters and the fighting went on for several 204 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: hours before the police bothered to break things up and Blake, 205 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: what else do you have there? 206 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 207 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: So, John, just a few minutes ago, we were airing 208 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: some of that interview with a protester. And as you'll remember, 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 5: protesters have not been friendly so far since they set 210 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 5: up this encampment last week. 211 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 6: This was set up last Thursday. 212 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 5: Some reporters have tried to get on the encampment, they 213 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: have not been granted access. Today we were not granted access. 214 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: But one thing that we did see was protesters come 215 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 5: to the line to speak with media, and I happened 216 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 5: to be there, so I was able to speak with 217 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 5: one of the one of the protesters there. So we'll 218 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 5: kick things off with her, and then we'll go into 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 5: another student I spoke with who he's neutral in this. 220 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: I mean, he's not a pro Israeli supporter, he's not 221 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: a pro Palestinian supporter. He's just a student who's fed 222 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: up with seeing all of it on campus. 223 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 6: But we'll start here. 224 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 5: This is the same protester that you heard from telling 225 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 5: us really an array of different things. At the last break, 226 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: I had asked her here we'll kick things off where 227 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 5: I ask her what she makes of the university's response 228 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 5: to the camp. What is your response to the school 229 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: calling this encampment unlawful and ordering essentially asking everybody to 230 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 5: leave and saying that students will be punished. 231 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 6: What is your reaction to that? 232 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 9: M It's. 233 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: It's infuriating, right, it's really infuriating. We have our if 234 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: you step foot in our encampment, like the spirit there 235 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: is deeply nonviolent, Like it is like we just have 236 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: we have food tents, we have medic tents, we have 237 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: we have a library. We're reading books to each other, 238 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: We're teaching each other about things. We're learning how to 239 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: do Palestinian traditional dances. We're like we're writing talk on 240 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: the ground like like this is a this is a 241 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: community that is meant to to you know, dancing talk 242 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: up the university environment. But we are not here to 243 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: harm others at all. We are not here to harm people. 244 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 5: And you know, we just support and I've just seen 245 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 5: the claims, uh that there are claims that you guys 246 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 5: have kept students from getting to their classes. 247 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 6: What do you make to those claims? 248 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: They're inaccurate, they're false, right, Like the encampment like has 249 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: taken up a enough space that we have to block 250 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: certain walkways. But they're like walkways to class. 251 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 6: Right. 252 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: We are not saying you are not allowed to go 253 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: to class. We're saying you have to you have to 254 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: take a couple more. 255 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: Feet to go around, and we have to do that 256 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: as well. 257 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Like there are a few entrances and exits that we 258 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: can enter from, and then we cannot even get to 259 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: class at the usual routes, Like we have to block 260 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: so different claims that this is like, you know, we're 261 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: specifically targeting certain students not letting them go to class. 262 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: What we're not letting them do is enter the encampment 263 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: when they're here to harass us. 264 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: She's for real, Huh, there's a lot of that. 265 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 6: That was a very long interview. That was about an 266 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 6: eleven minute interview. 267 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: My god, how did you take that? 268 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: You know, one of the one of the other reporters, 269 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: John took a little dig at at KFI that was 270 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 5: against the rail. He looked at me and said, well, 271 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 5: you know, right wing media's here. I can't wait to 272 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: see the narrative that comes up, comes out of this, 273 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 5: comes out of this guy essentially, which. 274 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: Everybody I didn't even. 275 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 5: I didn't even you know, no, I didn't even have 276 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: a chance to respond. I want to go to this 277 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: student here. I tried to talk to a few students 278 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 5: this morning, and I mean, they're college kids, right, they 279 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: see the guy, the media guy you're laying so most 280 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 5: of them walked past. But I did talk to this 281 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 5: to this student, and he told me he's frustrated with 282 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: all of it, pro Palestinian supporters, pro Israeli supporters. 283 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 6: He says, he doesn't care, he's he's over all of it. 284 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 10: It's a total disruption. It's not fair to the students. 285 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 10: It's it's definitely not fair to Yeah, it's not fair 286 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 10: to student, it's not fair to administration. It's not fair 287 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 10: to anybody. You know, this is going to affect more 288 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 10: people than they anybody who's involved in here is ever 289 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 10: going to realize and their their pride and their hubris 290 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 10: really contributed to this, and it's terrible. 291 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 6: What do you think the school should do about this? 292 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 10: I think anybody who is involved in organizing the protest 293 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 10: should be expelled. I think anybody who was involved in 294 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 10: the violence yesterday, whether or not they were a student, 295 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 10: should If they were a student, I think they should 296 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 10: be expelled. If not, I think, uh, you know, they 297 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 10: should be arrested. Anybody who was involved in the violence 298 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 10: on either side. 299 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: Now, John, this guy, the most shocking thing he told me, 300 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: and it really stuck out to me, is that he 301 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 5: is super surprised by who is actually staying in this 302 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: pro Palestinian encampment here on campus. He says he knows 303 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: some of these people inside, and these are people he 304 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 5: never thought would have been inside this camp. And you 305 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 5: really wonder, because we hear that blowback, where are the parents? 306 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: Where are the parents? I would assume based on what 307 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: he told me saying that he's surprised by some of 308 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 5: the people that he knows that are inside of here. 309 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: If a lot of parents just don't think it's their 310 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: little Johnny inside. 311 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the of there's a lot of covert operations 312 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: going on at all these protests at these universities. Thank 313 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: you very much, Blake, it was highly entertaining. And send 314 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: that first clip over to our guys. Okay, I want 315 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: to all right, Yeah, I'll send it for later entertainment 316 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: when we come back. We're going to talk with had 317 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: him on yesterday from News Nation, which is the new 318 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: cable news channel you ought to be watching. Rick McHugh. 319 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: He has been at Columbia University this week. He gave 320 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: us a great report yesterday. We're going to talk to 321 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: him again in moments. 322 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 323 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 8: M six forty. 324 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: The whole thing is becoming a farce now, especially at UCLA. 325 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: We'll talk more coming up about Blake Trolley's reports and 326 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: that looney bit of a woman who was trying to 327 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: explain all the demands they have. And apparently these pro 328 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: Haamas protesters think they own the public land at UCLA, 329 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: that it's their land. And shockingly, maybe not shockingly, Eugene 330 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: what's his name, Eugene Block, is that the chancellor. 331 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: Do they have a chancellor anymore UCLA? Do they have 332 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: a guy? 333 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: Because he's letting them just see he's the land and 334 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: create all kinds. 335 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: Of all kinds of a ruckus. 336 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: And then you know, here comes some Israeli guys to 337 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: teach the Palestinians a lesson Gene Gene right, jeene block, 338 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: and so you had a big fistfight that goes on 339 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: for two or three hours. LAPD doesn't stop it. I 340 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: guess UCLA didn't give him the go ahead on that. 341 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: But at UCLA's public land, it's not a private university 342 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: like Columbia. I don't understand any of this. I don't Well, 343 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: we'll talk more about it coming up, and now let's 344 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: go to Rich McHugh. 345 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: He's waiting. 346 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: He's been at Columbia University this week and you probably 347 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: saw the police in New York arrested almost three hundred 348 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: people and cleared about three dozen out of Hamilton Hall, 349 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: the administrative building the crazies had barricaded themselves inside. 350 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: Rich, First, what's going on right now. 351 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 9: It's a lot quieter than it was last night's that's 352 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 9: for sure, starting to resume get back to normal. Security 353 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 9: around campus is still heightened. Students only students really are 354 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 9: being allowed back in the campus. The main gates on 355 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 9: the West and East are still not open to the 356 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 9: public they usually are. I expected that it's going to 357 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 9: remain that way for the foreseeable future because the students 358 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 9: I'm talking to think that this encampment will just go 359 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 9: right back up in the coming days. Despite the arrests overnight. 360 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: I had heard that Columbia officials had requested NYPD presidents 361 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: at least through May seventeenth, which is two days after graduation. 362 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Is that true? Have you heard anything like that? 363 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 9: I have not heard that. That wouldn't surprise me. I know, graduation, 364 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 9: they're trying to graduate, you know, fifteen different thousand students 365 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 9: between all their various schools and undergrad and graduate, So 366 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 9: that wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me if security 367 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 9: at the gate remains just extremely tight. The students that 368 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 9: were part of this that were arrested obviously probably expelled 369 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 9: at this point, so their ideas won't be working. So 370 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 9: they've somewhat neutralized this problem for the foreseeable future. I 371 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 9: would say, But what happens outside the walls of Columbia, 372 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 9: like I'm Amsterdam and Broadway, is anybody's guests, and seeing 373 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 9: how this is spreading even within New York City. Now 374 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 9: it's spread to Fordham, Cuny, the City College of New 375 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 9: York last night, and Fortam today. It looks like this 376 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 9: is just ramping up here and across the country. 377 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: I mean talk about eighteen hours before the police showed 378 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: up to remove the protesters that were barricaded in the 379 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: administrative building. And I had read that Columbia officials Border 380 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 3: trustees were meeting all night into the morning. 381 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: What took them so long to do? What is obvious? 382 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: Did you? 383 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 9: Well? They had essentially painted themselves into a corner. So 384 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 9: like two weeks ago they authorized police to come in 385 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 9: and arrest everybody. They did. They came in and arrested 386 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 9: I think it was one hundred and eight student protesters 387 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 9: on the encampment. There was outcry from faculty and the 388 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 9: Columbia Senate, I believe, and students. So the President of Columbia, Minusiafique, 389 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 9: weighing all that, came out with a statement last week says, look, 390 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 9: we regret the decision. We will not be doing that again. 391 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 9: And so when I think when the protesters heard this, 392 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 9: they're like, well, look, we have carte blanche to kind 393 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 9: of do whatever we want. And just so happens that 394 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 9: fifty six years ago to the day, student protesters took 395 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 9: over Hamilton Hall on Columbia's campus protesting the Vietnam War. 396 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 9: At that time, NYPD was and they made seven hundred arrests. 397 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 9: It's not coincidence that this is fifty six years ago 398 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 9: to the day that student protesters and protesters, I should say, 399 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 9: not just students protesters, because the NLPD made a big 400 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 9: point this morning to say there are professional agitators in 401 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 9: the group. But this is not coincidence that this has 402 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 9: happened to the day fifty six years ago. 403 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: Right, So Columbia says, jeez, we shouldn't have done that, 404 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: We shouldn't have had those protesters arrested. And they're shocked 405 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 3: that the protesters came back and barricaded themselves inside the building. 406 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: It's just it's just unbelievable. 407 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 3: And I'm I saw some photos in video when that 408 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: crowd showed up, and they showed up, and they had furniture, 409 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: and they had gates, and they had all kinds of tools, 410 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: and the photographer took photos them all along the way. 411 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: It must have taken a little while to bring all 412 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: this stuff inside, to create the barricades and to bust 413 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 3: their way in, and nobody from the university tried to 414 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: stop them, no security personnel, no NYPD, everybody just let 415 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: them spend an extended amount of time to bust into 416 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: this place and then barricade the offices. 417 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 9: That's correct. There were a few campus security officials there 418 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 9: I think at the time, but they were quickly overrun 419 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 9: because what we heard today was that, look, they arrested 420 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 9: one hundred and nine different people at Columbia overnight. So 421 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 9: one hundred and nine people. You need what the NYPD 422 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 9: brought in for that to even stop that. It was 423 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 9: just they'd take it over the building. They were draping 424 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 9: the flags of Palestine from the sides, a sign that 425 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 9: says Intifada. There was a protester on the roof, you know, 426 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 9: kind of waving the flag of Palestine. Mayor this morning, 427 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 9: Mayor of New York City says, this is a disgrace 428 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 9: that we're allowing our institutions to be you know, have 429 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 9: these flags of other countries draped over them, like take down, 430 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 9: they're taking down our flag? Like where where is the 431 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 9: outcry over this? The mayor was feisty this morning. It 432 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 9: was it was quite something. 433 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's terrible, and and so what what what 434 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 3: happens to the administration today? I mean, do these all 435 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: these administrators they show up for work like nothing happened. 436 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a clown show. 437 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 9: It's uh, your guess is as good as mine. Honestly, 438 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 9: I think the president is probably on something nice because 439 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 9: everybody is being critical of the line she has kind 440 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 9: of walked here. I would assume that the board is 441 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 9: facing immense pressure from alumni who actually have their head 442 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 9: screwed down donors. You know, there's graduations coming up, a 443 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 9: lot of a lot of eyeballs that are going to 444 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 9: continue to be on on on the president and the 445 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 9: board here and how they navigate this going forward. But 446 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 9: it's you know, the cats out, you know, the damage 447 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 9: is done, yeah, for Columbia, And I would assume that 448 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 9: there's going to be you know, a lot of the 449 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 9: faculty were linking arms kind of protecting these protesters in 450 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 9: the encampment from being accessed by the administration. So I 451 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 9: think there's going to be a long, hard look at 452 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 9: everybody's role in what they're involvement was in these past 453 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 9: two weeks there. 454 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: Rich McHugh from News Nation, the new cable news channel, 455 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: Thanks very much, great reporting at university. We'll so much 456 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: to react to Deborah. I got to digest the last 457 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: forty minutes. 458 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI Am sixty. 459 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: We had extensive reporting from Blake Turley and CAMFI News 460 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: on UCLA, and then we just finished talking with with 461 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: Rich mceube from News Nation about Columbia, and it's pretty 462 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: similar situations we had. You know what, I guess there's 463 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: something going on that none of us really knew about. 464 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: But the h the administrations at these universities have ruined 465 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: their brands, first of all, and they've completely abdicated Hey, John, 466 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: any responsibility. 467 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 11: I'm just going to break in for a second though. 468 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 11: Just people are texting me there was an earthquake. I 469 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 11: guess we were, you know, too busy apping away. We 470 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 11: didn't feel it, but a preliminary magnitude of four point three, 471 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 11: six miles from Corona. 472 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: My husband just texted me he felt it. 473 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: I definitely felt it. What time was it? Oh? 474 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: Everybody? Apparently you and I are the only ones that 475 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 4: haven't felt it. 476 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: What does that mean. 477 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: Away? 478 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: Just now it happened? Yeah, yeah, it kind of felt 479 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: like a little rolling sensation. 480 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 10: I thought it was honestly like the elevator, because sometimes 481 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 10: the elevator, the freight one that we're right next to, 482 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 10: sometimes that'll shake the floor a little bit, so I 483 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 10: thought it was that, but I guess it really was 484 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 10: an earthquake. 485 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 11: It was an earthquake four point three preliminary magnitude one 486 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 11: nine pm. And I'm so happy to say, I'm really 487 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 11: happy to say I didn't feel you didn't. 488 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: You distracted me, and that was a good thing. 489 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: I think every time you walk in, I get a 490 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: rolling sensation. So it seemed normal. All right, well, happy earthquake. 491 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: Everybody survived another one we did. Maybe it's maybe it's 492 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: a foreshow. 493 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: I was hoping you weren't going to say that. Let's hope. 494 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: I like to look on the dark side. 495 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: I know you do. 496 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: So I'm going back to Columbia and and UCLA. I mean, 497 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: last night they let some Israeli guys and supposedly older 498 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: guys come in and just beat the poop out of 499 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 3: the Palestinian protesters. This happened, you know, between around midnight 500 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: and three in the morning, and nobody wanted the police 501 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: to intervene. So I'm thinking, all right, that so the 502 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 3: administrators know this is happening, They know the palacest Indian 503 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: protesters that they bent themselves into pretzels trying to protect 504 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: are now getting revenge. They're getting attacked by these Jewish men. 505 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're students. I don't know who 506 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: these people are. Eric Adams, the New York mayor, says 507 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: definitely they an NYPD. They had a press conference yesterday, 508 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: so definitely there's outside agitators. That's what we talked about yesterday. 509 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: We've gotten infiltrated, we really have. And it's impossible to 510 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: tell if these are Antifa like groups that planned to 511 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 3: turn all the universities upside down the same week, knowing 512 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: it was a sensitive time, it's exam time, graduation time, 513 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: and that it would achieve maximum impact and discomfort. So 514 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 3: there's some students. I wonder how many of them are 515 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: foreign students on foreign visas. I wonder how many of 516 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: them are here on a mission till filtrate and destabilize. 517 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: Because there's something not right about all this. This doesn't 518 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: seem all that organic, and the intensity of this, and 519 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: how they can scream and rant and rave all night 520 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: long and inside don't they all know they're going to 521 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: have no effect? 522 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: Obviously. 523 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: Benjamin not Yahoo said yesterday that whether they do a 524 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: cease fire or not, you know whether hostages come out 525 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 3: or not. They're going to invade Rafa and they're going 526 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: to finish and annihilate the rest of Hamas. And he said, 527 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: nothing is going to stop that. And he didn't have 528 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: to say this, but I'll finish it, certainly, not these 529 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: penny anti lunatics who are screaming like Jimboree toddlers. 530 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: There's another thing that woman said. 531 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: It's like, well, we're dancing, we're singing songs where we're 532 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: using chalk, and her whole program sounded exactly like like 533 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: what my kids got when they were two and three 534 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: years old and they went to preschool or these little 535 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: toddler programs. I mean, these are these are men and 536 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: women and a lot of women in their late teens 537 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: and early twenties who talked the way little children do, 538 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: except they're supporting the most vicious, deadly, murderous terrorist group 539 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: running right now. And then if a reporter pushes them 540 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: on it, they say, oh, that didn't happen. 541 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: Now they know what happened, So I don't know. 542 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: There's there's there's something going on, and and I mean 543 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: the mayor in New York is saying that there was 544 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: the uh, the wife of one of the participants is 545 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: a well known terrorist. I got to get deeper into 546 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: that story coming up in the two o'clock hour as well. 547 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: So there's definitely evidence of these organized terroristic factions. And 548 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: I would call it some Palestinian version of Antifa, or 549 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: maybe real Antifa is involved. Maybe everyone's gonna glomb on. 550 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: Now. 551 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: I don't think this is just, and the administration is 552 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: I can't. They really don't think any of this is wrong. 553 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: It really doesn't bother them. The criticism bothers them, But 554 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: the actual the acts of people rioting and fighting and 555 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: you know, blocking Jewish kids from going to class in 556 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: the library, none of that bothers them. They're not willing 557 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: to get enraged and stay up all night screaming about it. 558 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: They could stop it. All this stuff could be stopped 559 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: in a minute. They're choosing not to stop this. Think 560 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: about why that would be When we come back this 561 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: is actually related. We're gonna have Art Arthur on from them. 562 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: The Center for Immigration Studies. It turns out hundreds of 563 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: thousands of illegal aliens have been flown to US cities 564 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: by the Biden administration. No it's not Greg Abbott, No, 565 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: it's not Ron Desantez. It's Joe Biden. They have the 566 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: records hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants flown to forty 567 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: five US cities, and now Joe Biden wants to fly 568 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: in Palestinians who have relatives here. Well, that's going to go. Well, 569 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: it's all coming up. Hey, you've been listening to The 570 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: John Cobalt Show podcast. 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