1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hello, 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one, the world's number 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: one source for everything cannabis. My name is Blue. Alongside 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: me is the world famous Pot Brothers at Law, Mark 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: and Craig Wasserman and Mr Joe Grande and you are 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: now tuned into the greatest cannabis show today. Yes, in 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: the world. 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Uh. 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Follow our brothers at Pot Underscore, Brothers Underscore at Underscore, 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: law Mark is at wass Law, Craig is at Wasslaw. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Dog Blue is that one. Christopher Wright. Hello, and I 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: am at Joe on Day fifty two. Today on the 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: show Very Special Guests, You Guys, Marina A. Torres. She's 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: a candidate for the l A City Attorney spot. Now. 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: As an attorney and first generation Latina who worked for 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: President Obama, Marina Torres represents the American dream and that 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: she does you guys reading her bio and checking everything 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: out about her, she's so dope. Growing up with an 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: incarcerated family members, her personal and professional experiences have given 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: her a greater understanding of the justice system and the 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: important role roles that it plays and serving the people 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: in our community. She understands the importance of providing access 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: and opportunities to working class communities and how government can help. 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: When working for the people, she can help change lives. 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Marina's experience have shaped her own values of justice and fairness, 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: and she's out there fighting the good fight for everybody 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: out there, and those are the values that she brings 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: to her campaign. With over a decade of civil and 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: criminal legal experience, Arena is the right person to be 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the city attorney for Los Angeles. You can check out 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: her website Marina Torres dot com. That's m A R 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: I N A. T O r r e s dot 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: com are on Instagram. It's taurists the number four Los 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Angeles to check her out on social media. That all 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: being said, welcome to the show right now. I'm glad 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I could read and get some of that bio out 45 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: there to drop the dimes on who you are a 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: little bit. Thank you so much as it's an honor 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: and privilege and quite frankly, just fun to be here. 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: So thank you for so far, just in the office 49 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: right dealing with us Shenan again, so far, just so 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: let's get I mean, I want to talk about what 51 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to do with the l A City Council 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: and everything else, but I want to get into the 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: history of yourself because reading your bio and seeing what 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: you come from just really represents the American dream. And 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: when I say the American dream, folks, she comes from 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: undocumented parents and you have done so much, so you 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: have two parents from Mexico and then you come here 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, the Inland Empire, and then you get 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: you go to college at u C. Berkeley, which isn't 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: a freaking simple college to get into, you know what 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then after that Dude, you go to 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Stanford University for your law degree. On top of that, 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: you start working with the Obama's and doing things like honestly, like, 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't even talk to you in there because I 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: would have been saying all this to you, like I 66 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: wanted to wait to give you my raw, Like, dude, 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: I am so impressed with you. The only thing that 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I was not impressed with was how short you are, 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: because when you walk in, I was like, I expected 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: to be this eight foot a woman because she's mighty woman, 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: and then she walks in and she's mighty mouse. I'm 72 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: not apologize, don't you don't need you, but my point 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: is everything I read on you was just so big 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: and so dope, and you're so awesome with your credentials 75 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: and your your values of putting so much in yourself exactly, 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: it's so impressive. I literally commend you. I take my 77 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: hat off and try to take my glasses off right 78 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: now for you, because it's not easy to do what 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: you've done right there. And I think of these people 80 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: and these families that come in here, and we've seen 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: it time after time, and you know, even now with 82 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: all these data that that you've helped do. But there's 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: a million of these families that are trying to come in, 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: and you are a product of what we are trying 85 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to keep out. And look what you've done. It's like, hey, 86 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: people out there, do we really I do believe that 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: there needs to be a way to get everything we're 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: trying to keep them out. I'm saying we in the 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: United States. A lot of people have been, you know, 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: said of the borders and this and that, and I 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: agree to an ex certain extent, right there just needs 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: to be a protocol on how to get in here. 93 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: But when you look at your family and what they've 94 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: done and what they've sacrificed to come here, you're just 95 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: the best example that I've seen in a long time 96 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: to excel. And then not only that, now you're running 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: to try to be a big time representative for l A. 98 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: So I just want to say all these things so 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: that people could hear the facts of what you've done 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: and how dope it is. So congratulations for you being 101 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: you and all that being said, Yeah, exactly, everybody, I mean. 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: But the thing is, you know, and they always tell 103 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: you running for office is going to be difficult. I 104 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: think for me, the most difficult thing was sharing my story, 105 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: right because for a long time, you know, folks didn't 106 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: know and I'm sure some of my coworkers don't even 107 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: know that. You know, my family was undocumented for a 108 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: very long time. We've got a sun Kiss factory, if 109 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I read yeah, sun Kiss Origin factory, 110 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: and so you know. But that thing is that that's 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: a story of so many people in Los Angeles, and 112 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: that's that's really, frankly, what motivates me and running for 113 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: office is that, you know, my story isn't actually that unique. 114 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, when in Los Angeles, you're the demo, you're 115 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the exact what's out there, exactly exactly. When I was 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: at the White House, I remember we had all these 117 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: DOCTA students that would come in and they would share 118 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: their stories. It was doctors and nurses and teachers and firefighters, 119 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: and it was all individuals who had been here undocumented 120 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: that because of the doctor program, had been given the 121 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to work and contribute back to society. And I think, 122 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, if only we would be able to know 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: more of those stories and share those stories. So even 124 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: though for me it's one of the most difficult parts 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: in running for office is sharing the personal It quite 126 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: frankly is every time I do it, it reminds me 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: of why right, because we need more stories like these 128 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: out there. We need to see that people. You know, 129 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: when folks think of undocumented immigrants, you see the scary 130 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: news stories. You see the association with tattoo on the 131 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: face and you stab somebody and you did this and that. 132 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: When you see and I get those questions even now, 133 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: you see the association with a criminal element, and you 134 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: don't see the stories of the doctors and the firefighters 135 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: and the nurses and just hard working businesses that come 136 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: up come abroad. You know what I mean, Let alone 137 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: even as simple as the people that are doing your yard. 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: We're talking about the hard the great tax paying citizens 139 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles that have a real job. The parents 140 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: were straight immigrants and come in and made a huge difference. 141 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: So you know that all being said, just jump and 142 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: right into something like that. How do you see that 143 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: even being handled? Because there's so many them When you 144 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: look at Haiti right like they had all the problems there, 145 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: how many and how do we and what's the right way? 146 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're so well versed in it. What is 147 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: something that people could hear going, What is the better 148 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: way to do this? Yeah, I mean, and obviously COVID 149 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: has complicated a lot of it, right, because even even 150 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the laws and the way we treat people that come 151 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: to the border is now different because of COVID, Whereas before, um, 152 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, folks coming from Hill Salvador, Guatemala, they used 153 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: to be able to come in and fight for their 154 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: asylum applications from within the United States instead of being 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: sent right back over. COVID has also destabilized a lot 156 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: of countries, including Haiti, right, that's unfortunately been destabilized for 157 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: a very long time. And I think you have to 158 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: do a combination of short term measures as well as 159 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: long term because you need to be looking at foundationally 160 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: what is happening in these countries of origin, right you 161 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: have Al Salvador and Guatemala, especially All Salvador. I mean, 162 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot, you know, I don't want to overreach 163 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: and saying that, you know, their government has a lot 164 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: of problems, right, the criminal element in some areas it 165 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: is completely taken over and there is frankly no functioning 166 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: national government in some parts of All Salvador and you know, 167 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: the individuals there, unfortunately, are left with no other option 168 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: but leave, you know, leave and go somewhere else. And 169 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: I hope they bring papusas with them. That's the best 170 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: thing about with a little cabbage on top. When that 171 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: little Red said, I'm just saying that, that's right. I 172 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: go straight to Salador. Someone didn't have lunch, right, No, 173 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: my heart, My love languages food. So when I think 174 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: of cultures, I think of food when you talk about that. 175 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: But you're right, it's it's so hard because I look 176 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: at all these people coming in. They're coming from a 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: bad place. But it's just so hard to sit there 178 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: and say, let's open our gates to everyone. And I'm 179 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: not sitting there but even watching that and seeing that, 180 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: because you were a part of the Obama foundation that 181 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: helped create this whole doc movement, and then when Trump 182 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: came in they tried to shut it down, how was 183 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: that for you? Oh? It was awful. I mean for 184 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: a while I couldn't even see the news because you know, 185 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: when I was at you know, in DC, working for 186 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: the obomb administration. You know, these weren't just files for me, right, 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: the eight the eight hundred thousand individuals that we were 188 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: able to help get DOCCA, get protection, get you know, 189 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: protection from deportation. Like I remember the stories, right, I 190 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: mean I remember I remember looking at a lot of 191 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: them and they all had stories. They all had There 192 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: anyone that like really stands out to that you can 193 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: go back to, Like damn, that one just still touches 194 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: my heart. There was one, um I always remember because 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: I was you know, I was at DHS, the Department 196 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, and we've gotten word I forget, how 197 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: do you carry a gun too? Got a gun on 198 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: it right now? She's like here like Spider Woman. Yeah, 199 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: she's got kind of gun on her, Like she's like 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Homeland Security, the White House. I've got Yeah, she's got 201 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: It's like okay, okay, it next year, So go ahead 202 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: with the story. Um. So we just got we got 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: word of this DOCA recipient who had you know, he 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: lived in the United States, who lived in California, and 205 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: he had requested permission to leave to Mexico because his 206 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: mother was sick. I think she was terminally ill and 207 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: dying of cancer. And he requested, you know, permission, because 208 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: you can't leave without permission if you're if you have 209 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: docca UM and I think, you know, our department asked 210 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: for more forms or more information, he gave it. It 211 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: was you know, weeks and weeks of a delay. So 212 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: at some point he was like, you know what, my 213 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: mom is dying. I'm just gonna go. So he goes 214 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: to Mexico and he's there with his mother during her 215 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: final her final time on this planet, and then he's 216 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: stuck there. Then he's literally like stuck at at a UM, 217 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: I forget where in Mexico. And this guy is a 218 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: Harvard student. This guy is like you know DOCA recipient 219 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: undocumented managers again to Harvard, has to deal with the 220 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: it that his mother is stuck in Mexico. And now 221 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: because he left without permission, has you know, he's risky. 222 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: He basically kind of gave up his his protective status. 223 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: And so through various mechanisms, this came to my desk 224 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: and I remember just saying that we have to do something, 225 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, we have to, and thankfully we were able 226 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: to bring him back in and he still had some protection. 227 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: And I think I've heard around, uh. I think he's 228 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: a filmmaker now in Los Angeles, But that one will 229 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: always come to me because you know, I remember just thinking, 230 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: how can we expect this individual to just wait around? Right? 231 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: It's one of these areas where bureaucracy and he's trying 232 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: to do the right thing, right, he's trying to do 233 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: the right thing. He's living a good, healthy, clean life. 234 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Permission he asked him, he went through, you know, and 235 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: he just took way too longer than it should have. 236 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: And you know, he did what I think anybody would 237 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: have done. He would have just said, you know, I'm 238 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: going to go see my mom for for our listeners. 239 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: What is DOC? Yes, it's deferred action for childhood arrivals. 240 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: And so you know what I remember in you know, 241 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: being in Los Angeles at the l Convention Center and 242 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: when they were actually giving out the licenses to them 243 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: because they were holding it there, you know, and and 244 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I literally was going up the 245 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: stairs and I'm like, what's going on because I didn't 246 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: know what was going on, right, and I'm just seeing 247 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: people crying in the hallways. I mean, it was but 248 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: A know what it was. But I got the chills 249 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: right now on my body, just up and down my 250 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: body because people are going up and down the stairs 251 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: just crying and screaming yes, and I'm just like, what's 252 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: going on, you know, And I realized that that was 253 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the program that you guys were actually you know it was. 254 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: It was working through at the at the Staple and 255 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: not the Staple Center, but theer and they were just 256 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: people getting documented and people are standing by just waiting. 257 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: You know. Family members were everywhere, and I mean you 258 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: can see the parents, you know that obviously probably never 259 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: got the opportunity to get their their papers, but their children, 260 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: and they're just standing there waiting. And then you know, 261 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: some of the kids are walking because I started realizing 262 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: what was going on some of the you know, and 263 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: I say kids, but they're adults that are walking up 264 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: and they're like coming out of the building. Their parents 265 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: are like and then they're like and then just boom. 266 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Everyone's such a big thing. I've seen so many people, 267 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: have met so many people that get their papers. It's 268 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: like the biggest steal. And you know, we take for 269 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: granted because we're here, and I think of it as 270 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, you see those family members and when certain 271 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: situations and circumstances, when the family is already here and 272 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: their child was born here in the States, and then 273 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: like the child go has to go home, and you're 274 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: watching the news and you're seeing it. It's like right 275 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, are right here in Orange County 276 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: where we live, or let alone in Denver, are and 277 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: wherever state, and so you're in right now listening to 278 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: this and and actually America this happened. It used to 279 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: just break my heart watching the news and seeing these 280 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: rallies and seeing the people and the people stand up 281 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: with these uh you know, a bunch of rallies and 282 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: meetings going out going look at us, we're going to school, 283 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: we're partaking where it's not everyone that they just can 284 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: be like get out. And when I feel like and 285 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: when I see people in opportunities like yourself, it seems 286 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: like it's easy in my head to make that decision, 287 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: but it doesn't come across that way. And it's so 288 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: hard because if it was so easy, it would have 289 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: been figured out a long time ago. Right, So we 290 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: have like Obama come in with his ideas, you come 291 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: to help him with your legal background. Trump comes in 292 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: and destroys it all and makes it seem like it's 293 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: all gang members that are coming in. And then Biden 294 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: comes in and then it makes it feel like all 295 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: these people from the El Salvadors and the Mexicos are 296 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: just coming in because Joe's gonna let us in. You 297 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: know that West Joe, Josse, we love you. And it 298 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: makes it feel like That's what the media now is 299 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: showing us. That's what the Trump administration is trying to say. 300 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: Look at this, I stopped it. Now it's open. What 301 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: is the real truth that you see? You know? I 302 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: think the truth is immigration reform is so bipartisan, Like 303 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: if you ask people from all across the political spectrum, 304 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: everybody agrees that we have to do something, you know, 305 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: and everyone agrees that people that have been here for 306 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: a while, contributing to the economy, contributing to society, deserve 307 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: to have a, you know, a pathway to legalization. So 308 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I have do you think it's a lot easier? And 309 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: I chalk it up to lack of political courage and 310 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: lack of you know, the inability on part of our 311 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: elected officials to prioritize this is an issue because I 312 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: think there's so much more agreement on this that I 313 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: think then I think the media would let you believe, well, 314 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a big business, right, And I hate 315 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: to say that, but it's it's I mean, you know, 316 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I deal with a lot of Democrat Republican big business. 317 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: It's it's more than that though, it's it's if you 318 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: fix the problem, there's no money in it, you know. 319 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: And I say that amongst everything, it's likely to fix 320 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: the problem for cancer, because if you do, there's no 321 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: money in it. There's nobody taking pills. If we if 322 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: we can't stop the drug problems here because there's so 323 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: much money involved in it with the rehab and so 324 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: once the infrastructure is built right and the problems there, 325 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: and then now you're trying to fix the problem. If 326 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: you fix the problem, you don't make money. So it's unfortunate. 327 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: But that's I mean, I look at it as you know, 328 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: I like the theory a lot of it's it's what 329 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, you know, you can fix a 330 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: lot of these problems. We don't have a degree from 331 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: very intelligent more stand people. I mean, but you know, 332 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I think we got I think blues on point with that. 333 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: That's what it is, and it's hard to talk about that. 334 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: It really is. Marina, what do you think of his 335 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: theory like that? You know, I think the unfortunately people 336 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: stuck in the middle and all of this right in 337 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: the industry and the politics, it's the people that you know, 338 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: have the stories, right, that are just trying to live 339 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: their life and go to school and have a job 340 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: and contribute to society and plan for the tomorrow, right, 341 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: because that's the thing that I that, um, you know, 342 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: always try to emphasize that the doctor program is just 343 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: temporary protection from deportation. So like we could have another Trump, 344 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: k not gone way that we don't. We could have 345 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: another Trump and it's gone again, right, and and you 346 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: know that protection has gone, so it just and then 347 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: there could be another. It's just it's in flux. That's 348 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: a problem. And so these individuals are just constantly stuck 349 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: in the middle without any kind of ability to plan, 350 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: you know ahead, and for more than a couple of years. 351 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: That being said, now you're running for the Los Angeles 352 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: City Attorney. What does that entail? What does that job 353 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: if you get it, entail, and why would you be 354 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: the great candidate for it? So the you know, most 355 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: it's funny, most folks don't know what the city Attorney's 356 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: office does. And that's actually one of the big things 357 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: that I want to change. Um, you know when I'm elected, Um, 358 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: the City Attorney's office does civil and you have to 359 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: believe I think you're going to absolutely yes, and you 360 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to l A just to vote for you, 361 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: turning in my Orange County badge, just to go to 362 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: l A about people and all kinds of people out right. 363 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Don't worry. We got my little cousin, Angela Johnson. You 364 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: canna vote for you, Okay, so go ahead. Oh it's 365 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: it's criminal and it's civil. So um. You know, when 366 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: you think of the criminal misdemeanors in Los Angeles, that 367 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: all comes under the City Attorney's office, And when you 368 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: think of the prosecutor that sues on behalf of the 369 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: people of l A, like polluters, you know, folks like 370 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, corporations, banks, big, big, big federal crimes. State 371 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: it'll be state. Okay, it'll be state crimes, and it's 372 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: it's the prosecutor. Quite frankly, that's the closest to the people. 373 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: That's what I was like. The you know, when folks 374 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: ask me why am I running, I'm like, that's why. 375 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: Because it's under the City Attorney's office. I mean, the 376 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: rules and the regulations and the laws that are coming 377 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: out of that office, they're the ones that most directly 378 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: affect the people in Los Angeles. And why do you 379 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: think that's what you're so close to? Is it because 380 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: of your background and everything else that you feel that's why? 381 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I just want to make sure is 382 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: that your why? Because of what you come from? And 383 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's been a long time since 384 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: that office have been run by someone who's not a politician, 385 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: and certainly has never been run by a woman, certainly 386 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: never been run by Latina and not and hasn't been 387 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: run by somebody who comes from that background that can 388 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: relate so well to the people in Los Angeles. Well, 389 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: and English is your second language? Shoot? Correct? Right? Well, Marina, 390 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna ask you some difficult 391 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: questions about the cannabis industry, because I know everybody wants 392 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: to know. 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Oh, it says issues actually, 409 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: So you know, just as as a good educational is 410 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: a good one in case you ever get into this. 411 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: Seeds have no tea seen them, so they're fully legal anywhere. Yeah, 412 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: they can dig be sent across the states. Federally, you 413 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: can't do anything because they have no they have no 414 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: t at c um. There's no psychoactive ability yet. So 415 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: it's just a seed. So if you want to really 416 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: follow her statement, follow on Twitter at Torres for l 417 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: A so you can get more seeds on Twitter. That's 418 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: your outlet. I'm just kidding. Here we go. You know what, 419 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: I want to talk to Marina about the fact that 420 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: you wanted to become an attorney and was it before 421 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: you went to Berkeley or what was your undergrad b 422 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: a in that went to going at a certain point 423 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: when you went to Stanford you had to make the 424 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: decision to say I want to be a lawyer. Could 425 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: you go to Stanford for your law degree? But what 426 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: was that why and turning point for you to becoming 427 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: a lawyer at first? That's a good question. So it 428 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: was it was you know, I would say multi year 429 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: process because obviously no one in my family had gone 430 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: to you know, had graduated high school or college, little 431 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: and grad school, right, I think the you know, my 432 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: mom I think maxed out at a fourth or fifth 433 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: grade education back in truck On, Mexico where she's where 434 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: she was from UM and so you know, there wasn't 435 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: anyone when I was growing up. There wasn't that example, right, 436 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: we you know where we were growing up there, you know, 437 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: there were teachers and but there weren't really attorneys. There 438 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a big city. There was. But yeah, now surrounded 439 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: at the attorneys and it's beautiful, But back then it wasn't. 440 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't the case. And so when I 441 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: got into Berkeley, UM, you know, quite frankly, what I 442 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: saw was that there were a lot of smart people 443 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: that were applying to law school, and they all had 444 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: different reasons for wanting to be an attorney. And the 445 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: attorneys that I was exposed to a while at Berkeley, 446 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: I was a policy and rhetoric major and an ethnic 447 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: studies minor, and through all of that, you know, you'ncounted 448 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: a lot of attorneys, UM and their writings and their 449 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: professional experiences. And it seemed to me that being an 450 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: attorney opened up the door for so many things. Right, 451 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: you could be a practicing attorney, you could be a judge, 452 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: you could go into policy, you could work in government. 453 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you could just do a whole lot. So 454 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: I figured it wasn't you know what I like to argue, 455 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: you know, let let me try that. But your boyfriend 456 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: loves that, heads ahead right at it, No, I said, 457 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: But I want you know, the answer is always tacos 458 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: in our house, Always tacos which pot are we gonna 459 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: go to? Damn it? Okay? Yeah, but that that was 460 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: like a long wrap. And then after after Berkeley, I 461 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: actually was an AmeriCorps volunteer, so I worked in the 462 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: Greater Fields of Chicago, Illinois, working with farm workers and 463 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: extending legal aid to the farm working community there. And 464 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: that really was here in California at that moment, right exactly, 465 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: But they had a lot less protections in Illinois at 466 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: that time. I mean, so it was interesting to come 467 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: back and kind of see the differences in the protections, 468 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: but that really, you know, kind of solidified like, yes, 469 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: law school is going to be you know where I go. 470 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: And then that's how I ended up at Stanford after that, 471 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: I congratulations, by the way, it's soppressive. It's just so 472 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: great because it's not easy like Stafford's private, big time money. 473 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: It's just well, I've been incredible. I've been to Stafford, yeah, 474 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: to drive by, and it's a beautiful place here. Um No, 475 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: But what I was saying is the face of the 476 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: United States is changing it. In my opinion, I think 477 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: that you know, for years, there's been you know, like 478 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: we were talking, I think on break maybe or wasn't 479 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but about like it wasn't cool to 480 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: be Hispanic, and it wasn't cool to be uh, you know, 481 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: a minority, Whereas right now, I'm not saying that it's 482 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: it's cool or not cool. I'm just saying that I 483 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: think it's definitely more accepted. We're being more included and 484 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: even in media and movie everything. I'm literally sitting at 485 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: home and you know, there's a there's a black woman 486 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: you know, tell you know, teaching given the news, and 487 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: I was like, this is beautiful. Like I was kind 488 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: of like, I don't think I could recall back too 489 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: many you know, black women. I remember the Asian lady 490 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: on on Fox. YEA. There's a lot of equal opportunity 491 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: now it's starting to open up, and I think that 492 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: that is giving you know, minorities a lot more power, 493 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: a lot more jobs, a lot more you know, um respect. 494 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: But I think that it's changing around the country because 495 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: there's just more minorities everywhere, like four years ago, but 496 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: now again, forget four years. I mean the last four 497 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: years isn't the change It's been happening for the last 498 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: twenty years. Definitely, you know, the last four years isn't 499 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the isn't that how it all tips over? It's just 500 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: literally it's been you know, um, just a beautiful change. 501 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: You know. Like I said, I'm from Puerto Rico, so 502 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: I swim a lot farther than the Mexicans. You know, 503 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: that's my joke. But you know, our family, our family 504 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: is again. We we taught each other, you know, our 505 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: our grandparents taught our parents not to teach us how 506 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: to speak Spanish because they thought it would affect the 507 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: way that we would actually be able to, you know, uh, 508 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: get jobs, and which would I I agree with it, 509 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: but I and a lot of people don't. But I think, 510 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: but now, as an adult that I've made it this far, 511 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: I wish I did speak the language because I'd be 512 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: able to you know, it couldn't hurt you. It would 513 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: definitely help me more. Right now, I only look at 514 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: it as it's a blessing and helping everyone. Yeah, when 515 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: I look back at my parents and I'm like, damn, mom, 516 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: Like even went on their deathbed, I was like, I 517 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: really wish you would have spoken me, spoke Spanish to 518 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: me more. Yeah, oh sorry, Okay, I can give you 519 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: a kiss and I can grab your loan has and 520 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: I can do all kinds of little words in Spanish, 521 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: but I can't have a full sentence in conversation with you. 522 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: And go read a book or what's the best part 523 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: about that flux Spanish and stone or something Mexican Lopez 524 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: flux Spanish in high school. For God's sake, me white 525 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: boy over here, you know what I mean. So, but 526 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: all that being said, tumoring as we as we joke 527 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: about the heritage a little bit and touch on that 528 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: um right now. Currently you're a district attorney, correct, I'm 529 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: actually on the federal side. On the federal side, what 530 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: does that entail? Um? So? And I'll do the standard disclaimer. 531 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm obviously here you know, personally and not representing any agency. 532 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: But you know, as a federal prosecutor, UM, I do 533 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money laundering cases. Is I do a 534 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: lot of big narcro trafficking cases, UM fraud cases, corruption cases. 535 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: So it's all the cases that you know, the spans 536 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Essential district, so it's about seven counties. You go up 537 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: all the way to uh San Luisa Baseball and you 538 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: go up down, all all down, including Orange County. Do 539 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: you see that in cannabish. Have you seen it yet 540 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: in cannabis any cases, any the big money laundering in 541 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: cases or anything. Know, I can say I don't have any. 542 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying because you know, I think you know, they 543 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: have to be out there. Have you had any cannabis case? 544 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: You know they have to be I will tell you. 545 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the wonderful thing that I've I have enjoyed 546 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: about being a federal prosecutor is that you know, you 547 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: really target the bad actors. You know, you go after 548 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: the folks that are you know, really putting out you know, 549 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: I mentioned this on the break. You know, the doctors 550 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: that are over prescribing opioids, white collar criminals that don't 551 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: feel like they have to pay taxes, people that are 552 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: engaging in mortgage fraud. One of my one of my 553 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: favorite trials, you had, uh you know, with a lot 554 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: of resource and a lot of time, you know, and 555 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of good hard working lawn for agents to 556 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: back us up. I mean, I remember one of my 557 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: favorite trials. We went after the suspected white nationalists who 558 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: was defrauding a lot of homeowners back during the foreclosure crisis, 559 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: and there was about five hundred victims that you know, 560 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: he defrauded. There were people, there were there were there 561 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: were people. There were people roscwell, Molly, do you know 562 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: that samurai? So so there was it was common though 563 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: out there, so a couple of circuits of people who 564 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: heard something. Yeah, we see it, you know, we in fact, 565 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: it's funny because you know, they try to loop me 566 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: in somehow. And I kind of got in there and 567 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, they were doing fake loan modifications, right, And 568 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, and I knew these guys well, 569 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like we're we're friends, and they're you know, 570 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: they're bawling. I'm like, they're doing great, like you know 571 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: what's going on, Like Okay, I'm doing well, but you 572 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: guys are doing amazingly well, you know. And so you know, 573 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: we're sitting around the room one day and then we're 574 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: in the office and I'm just like, but you can't 575 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: do loan modifications for people in Texas and in Arizona 576 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: from California, can't you because it's illegal. I looked at 577 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: the lost and like, no, we have attorneys over there. 578 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: We're doing this. And I'm like okay. So I'm like 579 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: slowly but surely trying to get into it. And then 580 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, and I did that in front of the 581 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: whole office because I was like, yo, like is this 582 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: cool to be doing this? Like? And then I pulled 583 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: them to side. I'm like, look, dude, you guys are 584 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: on some ship wil I mean, where's your fish? Very fishy? Yeah, 585 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: I broke it down. Somebody's like, bro, but we're killing 586 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, I got a bell, you know 587 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: what I mean, I can't, you know, And and and 588 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: God willing you would have Marintoturia's not gonna yeah, excuse me, Christopher, 589 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: and I have to see you, you know. Um. But 590 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately they actually did get cold, and I 591 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: think he got broke off, like you know, I think 592 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: like seventy years or something. I mean they broke them off. Sick. Yeah. 593 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: We mentioned though a minute ago about your take on 594 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: cannabis in Los Angeles. Who've seen a huge grow and 595 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: of course legal dispensaries, but we've even seen a huger 596 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: grow in the illicit market where the dispensaries have been 597 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: out there and even right next to and I say 598 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: right next to within a rock throwing distance from a 599 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: legal dispensary. There will be a pop up illegal dispenser. 600 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on your take, especially with the city, 601 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: on how you guys are dealing with things like that. Yeah, 602 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: and I think there needs to be a distinction within 603 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: the illegal cannabis industry between people that really want to 604 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: comply with the law, that really are trying to be 605 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow and just find themselves, you know, 606 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: incredibly caught up in the bureaucracy that is the city's 607 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: permitting process. Those folks on one hand, and then folks 608 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: that just don't even try, you know, folks that are 609 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: just engaging and because they don't want to pay the taxes, 610 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: they don't want to like, you know, they just don't 611 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: they want to operate outside the law. So there is 612 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: that distinction. And I think that, you know, and I've 613 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: always said this, you know, one of the wonderful things 614 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: that I love about being a prosecutors that we go after, 615 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: we get to go after the people that we really 616 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: should go after. And I think that the folks that 617 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: you know are really trying to comply. For me, intent 618 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: is important, right if somebody's trying and if they get 619 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: caught up in the bureaucracy of government, or you know, 620 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: taxes are too expensive. What what about if I applied 621 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: and I haven't got my response ship but I've applied. No, 622 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean it should be well you know that there 623 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: I know there have been complains about the unlike reasonable delay, 624 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: and then that's something that the city needs to look at, 625 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean and quite frankly, because it shouldn't be unreasonable. 626 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: And not only that though, the taxes are too high. 627 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: So so one of the things that the cannabis industry 628 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: it talks about, is is criminal taxes coming from the 629 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: state in the cities, right because by the time and 630 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: this is why the market is so screwed up, right, 631 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of explained to you, is that you know, 632 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: by the time the taxes are are you know, hit 633 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: by the dispensary owner and the growers and then and 634 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: the distributors and everybody else down the line. The prices 635 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: are so high that they listed market thrives because you 636 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: can't go into a store and buy an eighth of 637 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: cannabis for under a hundred bucks at the store when 638 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: you can buy it on the street. And so so 639 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: there's in this because of the taxes that are on there. 640 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: So everybody is getting caught up. Now. It is tested, 641 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: it is quality product, and you're knowing where you get 642 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: your cannabis from. But unfortunately the soccer moms that that 643 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: are out there working hard, or the the you know, 644 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: the the everyday Joe's that are looking to go buy 645 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: some cannabis, they walk into a store and it's like 646 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: it's a hunter Bucks where every buddies are like, I'll 647 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: give it you for forty bucks, and it's like, okay, 648 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: they pay half the price. So I understand the taxes 649 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: are there, but the tax levels are still a little 650 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, rocky. So I think that's what's you know, 651 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: a big part of um the industry, and I think 652 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: we need to recognize, right because the last thing we 653 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: want to keep doing is encouraging or you know, taxing 654 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: people out of you know, going to be able to 655 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: operate absolutely you know, and especially small mom and pop stores, 656 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, because I think with the tax structure as 657 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: as you know, as it is, it certainly encourages the 658 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: big players, right and basically the people that can afford 659 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: to play, but not so much maybe the smaller mom 660 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: and pop stores or small businesses and may also want 661 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: to know, participate in the business um and then I 662 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: would say the last thing we want to do is 663 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: encouraged the you know folks that are trying to buy 664 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: their cannabis to go into the illicit market because you 665 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: just don't know what's in there. I mean, I obviously 666 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: opioid overdoses. I'm sure you guys have seen skyrocketed during 667 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: the pandemic and stuff is laced you know, with god 668 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: knows what, and that's cannabis included, and so that's a 669 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: real danger. But we really haven't seen that, in fairness 670 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: to the Marina with cannabis, we haven't seen you know, 671 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: lace cannabis where you know it could have pesticides. Yeah, 672 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: but we have me just saying when you make a 673 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: reference like that, I just I just don't want that 674 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: to go over people's ears and going, oh, is there 675 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: cannabis it's been laced. I have yet to read a 676 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: story where the cannabis has been laced where you hear 677 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: the opioid game. Yes, and if you're buying whatever drug 678 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: out there, I mean, you look at this concert that 679 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: just happened past. You can people getting stabbed with stuffing 680 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: the poison. Yeah, you know, the there's crazy shit out 681 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: there that we see and hear, but I've yet to 682 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: see and hear anything like that about cannabis. And even 683 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of defending the illicit markets saying 684 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: it's still the same ship we grew up smoking all 685 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: the time. You don't know, and nothing us to to to. 686 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but it's better. Don't get me wrong. 687 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: We'll play Devil's the Advocate with you. And I'm just 688 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: saying there was the pins that were bad, that we're killing, oils, oils, 689 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: oils out there that were but those were the black 690 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: market oils. They weren't there that were. Yeah, but that's 691 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. The fairness. Yeah, I'm I'm just 692 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: you are one. I'm just I support them all. You 693 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: know facts and it's far and few, but I know 694 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: your team arena to get her and now you're just 695 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: jumping ship. I mean, you guys see this right before lawyers. Yeah, 696 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: I look, I mean, listen, you know both of us 697 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: both we both do this right, which which is why 698 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: why are shows great. It's because we don't like you know, 699 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: facts are facts, you know, glad things out there. I 700 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: have seen it out there, and and and the reason 701 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: I point that out is because you know, I've got 702 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: kids and my kids you know in that age group. 703 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: That's why you knew, well, what do we need? Yeah, 704 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: we got a nice operation. If you're looking to call 705 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: asked for the Blue special, the Blues, No, but it's 706 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: important to digest and make sure that it is out there, 707 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: and we recognize that from both sides because you know, 708 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: as as a as a student of the industry myself, 709 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, I've been in this space a long time, 710 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: so I feel like i'm but I'm always a student. Um, 711 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of jankie shit happen in the 712 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: black markets, meaning that like we're in a massive grow 713 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: and this guy's got all kinds of powder mold on 714 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: that grow and instead of him you know, uh, just 715 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: turned up burning, turning up and burning it, which is 716 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: what would be mandatory now in a license facility, would 717 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you have to get rid of it. 718 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: This guy will just spray it all down, wipe off, 719 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: will kill clean it up, clean it up, package it 720 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: and get it out to the people, you know, which 721 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: is unfortunate and maybe not harming to them on such 722 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: a level. If you smoke a joint or two of it, 723 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: but over a ten years spand of smoking that bad quality, 724 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: it can cause all kinds of problems. So, you know, 725 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's you know, it's a bittersweet 726 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: situation we're in. But I think the you know, getting 727 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: you into office, what does that do for the cannabis 728 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: industry or you know, like, do you feel like you're 729 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: gonna help our industry? Do you feel like you're going 730 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: to you know, put things in place? Have you have 731 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: any ideas what your plan is? Yeah, And I'm We've 732 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: been at the campaign now for I think the year 733 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: and a half, and I've had the opportunity to just 734 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, talk to a lot of folks because we 735 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: keep mind, you know, we launched right before COVID and 736 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: so for a while it was all just talking on 737 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: the phone and just seeing how people were doing, learning, 738 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: educating myself. And you know what you mentioned before about 739 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: the taxes and what I've heard as well about the 740 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: bureaucracy and the regulations just being too burdensome for a 741 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: lot of people that I've heard that for the last 742 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: year or so, and it's you know, I'm just so 743 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm pro bringing jobs into l A. I mean, especially 744 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: post COVID, and I think we need to make it 745 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: less bureaucratic and less burdensome for people who want to 746 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: comply with the law to do so. And I think 747 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: that that's that's certainly true in the cannabis industry because 748 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: I think that there's there's a lot you know, it's 749 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: it's getting better. Certainly in California it's getting better. But 750 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: I think for some people, especially in government, there's still 751 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: a stigma for cannabis. And I think we've gone so 752 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: far in overcoming that. And I think that you know, 753 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if the five ten years, but I 754 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: think at a certain point we will be effective in 755 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: you know, moving marijuana down on the federal schedule. I 756 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: you know, I predict this, and I think it'll when 757 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: you think I had to win, you know, I was 758 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: going to I think in the next five to ten years, 759 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, um, because it's still and you guys know 760 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: it's still Schedule one, which is ridiculous, right, And I 761 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: think we will at some point see him moved down, 762 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: and you know, and but I think I think it's 763 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: it's still ways a way. But I think that we 764 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: do that by encouraging more legitimate businesses. Have you ever 765 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: smoked cannabis? I know I'm not not being lame by yeah, 766 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm super lame at all. You know, it's lame going 767 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: to Berkeley and going to Stanford. That's lame. Come on 768 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: saying that, you know what I mean? Sorry, I don't smoke. Sorry. Sorry? 769 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: Have you seen the picture of me and Barack and 770 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: me and Joe Biden? Sorry, I got a gun in 771 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: my Pamela hair. I mean, come on, look at you. 772 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: It's the furthest thing from lame peramit of Justice and 773 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: Queen exactly. But I've seen so much of how you 774 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: know it really does help people. I think it's you know, 775 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, it's still Schedule one, which means, you know, 776 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: the eyes of the federal government. There's no open medicinal value, 777 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: which I medicinal value and everybody which is crazy to me. 778 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean everybody that I know, and I certainly know 779 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: folks you know have goneen so much benefit, you know 780 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: from kindais project. You know I'll share with you are 781 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: you know I say it all the time, but you 782 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: know our government United States would never say had medicinal 783 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: value if it wouldn't you know, we're to point, there's 784 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: no way we would come out and say it had 785 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: medicinal value, and then the medical marijuana and all this 786 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: stuff it has medicinal value. Right, the studies aren't there yet, 787 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: and as they start to um actually come out and 788 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: Joe and I are for you know, people that are 789 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: doing studies on it, because we want to see that 790 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: one day where you know it says, hey, take this 791 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: hit of this one strand that you know that works 792 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: exactly like if you're two pounds, you should hit this 793 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: for two seconds in or eat this edible if you're 794 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: this weight that way, this will help with your head, 795 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: is this will help with your whatever your back, you know, 796 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: just like you do for tying on adiicals. I know 797 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: that my way I need. The max I could take 798 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: is four advils, like I know that, and I'm not 799 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: gonna take any more than that, but it's the max 800 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: you could take. Because I'm a big dude. I want 801 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: to know exactly that. Yeah dude, yeah, well I like 802 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: everything because if not the medicine doesn't work in your body, 803 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: doesn't the medicine out. So you got to know your well, 804 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: you know it helps with your Wife's a doctor and 805 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: explains all this to me too, So you mean my 806 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: wife explained that to me. Folks, don't get it twisted. 807 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I did not know these things until it was like, 808 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: you realize if you take too much, which I was 809 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: doing before blue and then you're just pissing it all out, 810 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: it's not working in your body exactly. Here's the here's 811 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: the kicker. It was six pills at first, and then 812 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: it was like, what are you taking six forth? It's 813 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: way too many? What do you mean really? But that's 814 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: too much for your body. It doesn't make sense for 815 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: your body. And she had to break it down for 816 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: me to make it mad sense. So then that's what's 817 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: led me to think that way about cannabis. Going. I 818 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: want that type of breakdown for cannabis so that people 819 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: in general who have been opposed to it go, well, 820 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: this is the same advice I'm getting from my time 821 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: and and and Maria. What I want to educate you 822 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: on and then just you know, this is me sharing 823 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: with you, like what how the indocannabinoid system works? Right, 824 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: So everyone has an endocannabinoid system, which is also coincidentally 825 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 1: inside the cannabis plant. Right, So your endocannabinoid system, uh 826 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: inside your body gets lubricated by taking in cannabis. Right, 827 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: So there's like little hairs that are inside your body, 828 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: which is your endocannabinoid system, and so when you lubricate that, 829 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: it allows the let's say the inflammation inflamation not to disease, yeah, 830 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: the cancer cells to stick, all all the different things 831 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: start to kind of flow through your body better and 832 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: your body can actually digest them or get rid of them, right, 833 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: Whereas if they don't, they start getting clogged up. So 834 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: you're actually in everybody is indocannabinoid deficient, and the more 835 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: THC that you put in your body, it counteracts that. 836 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: So these are things that are going to help people 837 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: in the understanding of what they're actually doing. Right, So 838 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: somebody takes in cannabis, it's like, you know, for the 839 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: first time, and I don't really smoke, you know, I'll 840 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: take cannabis if you know, for more of a like 841 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: if I'm sitting at the house and I'm like watching 842 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: the movie, I'm like, oh, I'll smoke, you know, But 843 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: I don't smoke on Tuesday afternoon now because it's not 844 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: it's yeah, I don't smoke it the sports money. I 845 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 1: don't wake up smoke this. This is unfortunately not THHC. 846 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: It's called oxygen sticks. So this is just oxygen, pure oxygen. 847 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: I smoke, right, Is that what you're running? Is that 848 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: what you're heading? Oh my goodness, I mean Pinocchio is 849 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: in the building right now. This is my healthy stick 850 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: that I've been healing right here. This is actually love 851 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: him right. That was like, that's a time, Marina Torres, 852 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: I'm not smoking a cancer stick. I'm okay with you 853 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: next time. These are these are actually cancers sticks, which 854 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: is well, well worse. However, the psychoactive effect that gives 855 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: it to me. If I smoke it all day, I 856 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: can't handle myself. I don't like it. I don't like 857 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: to feel like the pop brothers that all they smoke 858 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: weed all day long, that they're smoking cannabis. They love it. 859 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: Pulled up smoking to joint outside today. Yeah, it helps 860 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: him operate, you know, And for me it's like I 861 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: don't I don't function well on it. But if I'm 862 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: in pain, if you ask me, what would I rather 863 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 1: take an edible? Because I would say in edibles closer 864 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: to like a pill um, I would take the edible 865 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: all day. But when I was younger, I would be like, yo, 866 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: shoot me when I was Viking, I want whereas I 867 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: could ask you, have you ever tried viking in? Never 868 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: never had surgery? Given given what I do, especially you 869 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: know on the work side. I mean I mentioned this, 870 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm breaking recreationally. I'm saying by a doctor 871 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: like they never had a surgery or nothing. I've never 872 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: healths can be would and a lawyer like that or whatever. 873 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: You're a keeper your man boy, I look at his 874 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: hot thing over here, and no problems like that. I've 875 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: never heard nobody two forgot. Yeah, I started practicing lot 876 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: ten ten years old. I mean, how shocking is actually 877 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: here that she's never taken king like all kids decide. 878 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you for sure, but not me. But 879 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, I've obviously, you know, seen folks that have 880 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: had surgery. I've obviously seen you know, the overprescribing of opioids. 881 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: So for me, that too is really of interest. And 882 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: not only that, well, those opioids are the number one 883 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: killer for white males, which is even crazier to think 884 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: out there, like people going, oh it's great and they'll 885 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: do that. It's just funny to meet how somebody will 886 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 1: take any pill the doctor gives them but won't try 887 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: some cannabis that people are going, Hey, try this and 888 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: they'll make your liver better. You're give me better all that. 889 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: Let's take a break real quick. We're gonna come back. 890 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: We'll do the high five when Marinna Touris and I 891 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: have some questions regarding a lot of these great pictures 892 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: that you have on your website. Go check it out 893 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: Marina Touris dot com. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. 894 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this. 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That 902 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: ride as smooth as can be, you guys, So go 903 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: ahead and check out good old Viscus and a real 904 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: quick I just want to thank the staff that makes 905 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: everything happen around here, Erica, Daniel cal Your, design A, 906 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: Christian Danny, Kevin, Andrew, Zack Cash Camp Solar, Nadia, Ali Pitt, 907 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: Chris Frankino, Jennifer and Elvis. We would be nothing without you. 908 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: We have Marina Torres here with us. Marina Torres is 909 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: a candidate for the l A City Attorney office and 910 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: a wonderful person. And something I wanted to ask you, 911 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: Marina is how did you get involved with Barack Obama? 912 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: President Barack Obama? And how did that come about? Like? 913 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: How does that even Hey, I don't know, but you know, 914 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, Barack, I'm gonna call you. I went 915 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: to Stanford. How does it even come about? That's what 916 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean. I mean you got pictures of the dude. 917 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean I just them. No, never, I've always wanted 918 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: to get a drink. Yeah, how does that even come to? Like, Okay, 919 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: you're going to get an opportunity to walk us through that. Yeah. 920 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: It took about a year because I moved so when 921 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: he got elected, I was still living in LM and 922 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: I moved out to d C. Because I was like 923 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: that committed, like I wanted to be part of what 924 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: he was going to bring to the country. And so 925 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: I went out there. I worked a law firm for 926 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: a bit, and it took about, yeah, I would say, 927 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: about a year year and a half to land the 928 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: position that I did. And so you went out there 929 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: with the intentions I'm getting in with this dude, good 930 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, like that I did. I was like, 931 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: that was ever think I read on you? So impressed 932 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: with you? Yeah, always just you know, I just thought, 933 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: like the excitement, you know, the general you know. I 934 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: felt the same way, but I never moved. I felt 935 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: that way, but I never did anything for it. It's 936 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: the difference. I was like crying and it's so like, 937 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 1: oh my god. One of my good buddies was part 938 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: of it. I was so like, I want, well, I'll 939 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: do anything for him. But I didn't move out there, 940 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: and it wasn't smart enough to be a lawyer. So continue. 941 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: So you went out there working a year at a 942 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,959 Speaker 1: random thing doing what though, like for just a law office. Yeah. 943 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: So I was just at a law firm, um, you know, 944 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: just doing private sector work. And it took about a 945 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: year and a half because I was very I will 946 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: say I was very particular in what I wanted to do. 947 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I either wanted to do something that was 948 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, law related in the Department of Justice, so 949 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: do criminal reform, or I wanted to do immigration work, 950 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: like those are the two areas, just because those are 951 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: the two areas that you know. It's funny when I 952 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: was growing up, I didn't want anything to do with 953 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: either immigration or criminal work because it was already so 954 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: much of my personal life, like so much card how 955 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: my own car. Yeah, I mean like with parents that 956 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: were in document and I was already giving immigration already 957 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: scared and family like going through the incarceration since I 958 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: was already kind of you know, giving criminal advice to 959 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: and so growing up that was nothing. I didn't want 960 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: to do any part of that. And as I got older, 961 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: I realized just how much that experience was valuable in 962 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: those areas. But you already knew so much because you 963 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: were one of those people too. It was actually who 964 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,439 Speaker 1: you are, it's where you come from exactly how they Yeah, yeah, 965 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: so I you know, as it is with life, I 966 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: couldn't deny either part and so um when a job 967 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: opened up with the Department of Homeland Security working on 968 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: the DOCA policy, that that was it for me. And 969 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm so curious where you looking on indeed, like how 970 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: do you find out about that? Like you know what 971 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, how are you there and sliding next 972 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 1: to the president? How did you do this? Like how 973 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: is that? How does that? You try everything? But all 974 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: the jobs for these are political appointments, right, so they 975 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: go through the White House Political Appointee Office. It's a 976 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: White House p p O. And I forget what to 977 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 1: stand personnel office? Um, and so you literally like send 978 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: in a resume, you call, you know, you get to 979 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 1: do a background check. She checks background check. Yeah, from 980 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: the Indian Empire in Los Angeles. Back, hold on a second. 981 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 1: She has no social media. I like her. She has 982 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: nothing going on car show back in the day in Ontario, 983 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: fully through years. But you know, yeah, they do full 984 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: they do a full background check, and you know you 985 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: you pass the background check, and then you also do 986 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: they do White House betting. So that's when they look 987 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: at your social media. They look at you. Is there 988 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: anything that this person has done that's maybe not criminal, 989 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: but that's going to like embarrass it come back? Oh yeah, yeah, 990 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: good for you and none of that. So how do 991 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: you get the call and explain a little more how 992 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: do you get the call? And then how did you 993 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: get to meet the president? So let me think. So 994 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: I got the call, Um, God, I'm trying to remember. Um, 995 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think I was at the firm, 996 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 1: and you know, I interviewed, um you know, I interviewed 997 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: a couple of positions, and then it was the one 998 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: at DHAS at Homeland Security that I interviewed. That's the 999 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: one I wanted. Man. I was like, this is you know, 1000 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: for for the family that's come before me, for my friends, 1001 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: Like this is where I feel like I can do 1002 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 1: so much good here, you know. So when I got 1003 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: the call, I was like immediately, I was like, yes, 1004 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: I can start tomorrow. You know. I was like, when 1005 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: you need me, I'll leave everything i'm doing right now, 1006 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: said you know, because I've been sure. Of course I 1007 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: would have done too, Like all right, I'll tell youse 1008 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: guys a piste off right now. I'll be there. What 1009 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: time is it, I got twenty minutes, I'll be there. 1010 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: Let me g gonna talk along my way. I'll be 1011 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: right there. Because I've been in the private sector at 1012 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: that point, I've been in like six years or so. 1013 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, I was making good money. But it just wasn't. 1014 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: At that point in my life, I did feel like 1015 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: I needed something more. You know, the money helped out 1016 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: my family because again in first generation, right, so that 1017 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: helped us out a lot um. But there was at 1018 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: a certain point where my family was good, everything was good. 1019 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,479 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I want to do more. 1020 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: I want to contribute. You still live with your mom? No, 1021 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: I was like almost old school Latino like that and 1022 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: not married, no kids. I'm like a minute, like, you 1023 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, he's in the backhouse. I I 1024 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: picked up when you said. I'm like, dush, she's one 1025 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: of the old schools, Like you ain't moving out and 1026 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: you're married. No, no, No, I live in l A. Okay, 1027 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: so she's not she's still with us. No, unfortunately just 1028 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: passed away cancer. And actually I was going to mention this. 1029 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: I saw that. I read up on it, and again 1030 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: it's one of those areas where thin cannabis really we 1031 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: really need to talk more about it, especially the the 1032 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,479 Speaker 1: kind of comfort and you know, did your mother touch 1033 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: cannabis when she was going through But she was old 1034 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: school Latina, you know, but she she I mean, she 1035 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't even touch opioids like even even those are prescribed 1036 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: her she had her own tea in the house. You know. 1037 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: It's funny way that old Latina my mom used to 1038 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: get weed back in the day and put it in 1039 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: our rubbing alcohol oil and it would sit there and 1040 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: you're just like, okay, this was like early stages of 1041 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: Mexican you know, traditions or whatever going using that cannabis 1042 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: in the alcohol would help heal better. Which was a 1043 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: funny thing that you think about. How did your parents 1044 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: react when you got that job at the White House? 1045 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: I mean, my parents are actually not around, so both gone, 1046 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: So it was more my you know, my brother. I'm 1047 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: a foster as well. Welcome it's been twenty three plus years. 1048 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: I know the feeling. Yeah, yeah, I never get easier, never, 1049 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: especially when moments like that, when you want to share 1050 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: with them, you know what I mean. I'm like, oh, 1051 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait to tell them. Mark, are you talking over? 1052 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: We got somebody that joined us finally Hate made it 1053 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: to the show. That's actually Mrs doubtfire. What is your 1054 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: plan for these types of cannabis cases that are just 1055 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,919 Speaker 1: constantly running through l A X. Yeah. Um, I don't 1056 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: understand why these are priority. I mean, I you know, 1057 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: you know what I do for a living now, and 1058 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, I like to say that I spend my 1059 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: time going after really the truly bad actors, right, And 1060 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: I feel like that's where law enforcement should be focusing 1061 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: their resources, right, is going after the folks that we 1062 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,959 Speaker 1: really should be going after and enforcing the law there. 1063 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: Um and you know, and actually I had a friend 1064 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: of mine was visiting this is a couple this maybe 1065 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: last year, and I had to be the bear. I 1066 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: had to be the Debbie Downer and the bearer bad 1067 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: news because she wanted to take some edibles with her 1068 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: and I was like, are you sure. I was like, 1069 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't think this is you know, and she's like, 1070 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, my friends to it all the time. 1071 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think you yeah, yeah, but 1072 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, really like you know, I 1073 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: think it's just like are you sure? I was like, yeah, 1074 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: I think so. And uh so I had I had 1075 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: to be the bear a bad news. I was like, wait, 1076 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: you're getting on an aircraft crossing state lines, making this 1077 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 1: a federal No, don't don't do it. But you know, again, 1078 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: you know these and I think especially people that come 1079 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: in and and have the you know, the right to 1080 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: do to to own this out in other states and 1081 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: come in and they believe they're fully in compliance with 1082 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: the law. And we were just talking about this before. 1083 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: For me, intention is important. It is important to me 1084 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: that people, um, you know, even when they're as in 1085 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: this case, right, is obviously doing something that's not legal, 1086 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: but they don't even know it's not legal in this case, right, 1087 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and these are not the people that we 1088 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: really want and after it with felonies, I mean, we 1089 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: really want to be giving these individuals a felony conviction 1090 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: for something like this. I think, knowing right how that's 1091 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: going to impact, you know, their future job prospects and 1092 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: their future you know, in their future life period, I 1093 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: think it's a misallocation of resources, to be quite, to 1094 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: be quite frank well, and even the misdemeanors. And you know, 1095 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: we have a guy that we represented who was going 1096 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: through the green you know, the immigration process, and he 1097 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: gets this misdemeanor out of l a X because he 1098 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: was bringing medicine from l ATA to Chicago and as 1099 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: I said, he had the medical cards from both And 1100 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: what I actually did in that case, I got a 1101 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 1: declaration from his doctor in Illinois. I got a declaration 1102 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: from the doctor saw in California, and I prepped up 1103 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 1: emotion just and it was in hopes of just getting 1104 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 1: somebody to just go, look, this is not right, what's 1105 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: happening to this person. And fortunately we were able to 1106 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: get a diversion deal so that a plea never had 1107 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: been be entered. The case was ultimately dismissed and the 1108 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: guy got to get a citizenship, but he was in 1109 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 1: the mix for a year worried about it. And there's 1110 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: no slowdown of these types of cases right now. I mean, 1111 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 1: we get calls almost every day from people who say 1112 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 1: I thought it was legal, you know, And as I said, 1113 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: they don't. They're not taking pouns and pounds. They're going 1114 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: into licensed legal shops. And one of the things we 1115 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: do when they get busted is we go get the 1116 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: receipts from those shops and bring him in. And all 1117 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: we can do is appeal to that particular city attorneys 1118 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: sense of empathy or sympathy in hopes that fell what 1119 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: I think, do the right thing. But until there's a 1120 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: change in policy or whatever is going to happen, we're 1121 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna keep seeing more of these and I hope if 1122 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: you get in there that we see some changes and 1123 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: we pop brothers in law are happy to get behind 1124 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: you and endorse your running for city city attorney based 1125 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: on some of the representative representations that you made to 1126 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: us when we first talked. I know, I got first 1127 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: phone call. I think I just kind of peppered you 1128 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 1: with a lot of she don't go away, I signed 1129 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: up for more. No, I mean there will be a 1130 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: lot of changes. I mean I think so often, and 1131 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, I can mentioned before I've been a prosecutor 1132 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: for six years and I had a career before that, 1133 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: but so often I think folks will file these these 1134 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 1: cases just because they can, and without really thinking about 1135 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: whether we should. And I think that's really what distinguishes 1136 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: us as human being prosecutors from you know, an automated machine, right, 1137 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: the ability to see, wait a second, what think bigger, like, 1138 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? What what is how are 1139 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: we benefiting society by giving this individual a felony? And 1140 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned immigration consequences as well. I mean, obviously you 1141 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: know it's that's that's an issue very near and dear 1142 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: to my heart, and that's something that you know, I 1143 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: remember when I started, when I was a baby prosecutor 1144 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 1: and and talking to folks in my office and be like, wait, 1145 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, you know that even this type of misdemeanor 1146 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: under the statute is a crime and moral turpitude and 1147 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: it's going to mean this And really I like, yeah, 1148 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: like you think it's just a small level misdemeanor, but 1149 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: it's going to have lifelong consequences that you can't even imagine. 1150 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: And so it's you know, there was That's just the 1151 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: I saying the tip of the iceberg there in terms 1152 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: of the changes that you that you would see, uh 1153 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: if and when I'm saying, as a prosecutor, have you 1154 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: had to talk other prosecutors down off of going so 1155 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: hard on certain people like you guys it's bullshit all 1156 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,399 Speaker 1: the time, really, because I feel like you'd be more 1157 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: of the voice of reason for the people as I 1158 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: hear you and look at you, and my vibe feels 1159 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: that way from you, and my gut feels that I 1160 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you're just some hard austrowing everybody, but 1161 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: I don't I can't see that reasonable. I like that 1162 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 1: you said it's being reasonable, right, because there are some 1163 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: cases where I feel Like, you know, I mentioned to 1164 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: you before I started off my prosecutorial career as a 1165 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: domestic violence prosecutor, and those are ones where I did 1166 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: sometimes feel like I was a hard ass, you know. 1167 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,959 Speaker 1: I was like, no, you're not gonna I'm not gonna 1168 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: let you stay with the spouse you're beating up. You know. 1169 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it's funny right there. I agree with that 1170 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,720 Speaker 1: one like somebody else. I was hard on those cases. 1171 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: But then but then these other drug cases, right, I'm like, really, like, 1172 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: especially for the first time, you needs help with this, 1173 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: not just the book thrown at them. There's a distinction 1174 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: between the people that are just habitually you know, doing 1175 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: this and just have not learned right and are continuing 1176 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,959 Speaker 1: to career criminals continue to you know, do harm either 1177 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,240 Speaker 1: through white collar fraud or you know, drug trafficking, um. 1178 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: But you know, then there's the people that just get 1179 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 1: caught up into that like what you said intent. You know, 1180 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: when someone has that intent, like they you know that 1181 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: they know what they're doing and they take it to 1182 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: that extreme and they deserve what they get, right, and 1183 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: U sual in that, I mean, you really have to 1184 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 1: look at these cases as people, right, And I push 1185 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: that a lot as a prosecutor, especially when I'm when 1186 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm training younger prosecutors, and like, look at what this 1187 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,280 Speaker 1: case is, you know, don't just look at the statute, 1188 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: don't just look at like, Okay, these are facts and 1189 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: this is what we can charge. Like look at what 1190 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: we're doing, Like are we you know, the the question 1191 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: that you should always be asking yourself is are we 1192 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: accomplishing justice? Right? Like is that what we're getting with 1193 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: our proposed resolution of this case and our charging of 1194 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: this case. And if the answer is yes, you know, 1195 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: then you're pursuing the mission right, then go But if not, 1196 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: then if you just got some some some geeg off 1197 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: the street that just just cut a little flight with 1198 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: like an ounce in his pocket needs to become a felon, 1199 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: you know how many times that so well, I think 1200 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: that that well, we see the fact that it's happening, 1201 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: but not not we I don't know that we follow 1202 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: all the cases and really see them catch a felony 1203 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: over it, you know what I mean? I think like, yeah, 1204 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: of course it's a felony act. And so that the 1205 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: right off the bat, you know, you're charged with the felony, 1206 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that every time they kept they 1207 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: end up getting it, you know what I mean, Like 1208 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: we we see the news and goes, you know, someone 1209 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: left l A X with three ounces of cannabis and 1210 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: you know they're in the jails right now. So we're 1211 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: talking to you, oh ten ten plus years ago, it's 1212 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Yeah, you know, I mean I'm saying 1213 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: this last year, we've seen you know, we've seen several 1214 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 1: people get charged with felonies and then you know, we 1215 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: don't follow the case. Maybe Marks follows more of the 1216 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: cases than we do, but we don't necessarily follow the case. 1217 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: And then you sit there and go, well, this person, 1218 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, may have got off on a misdemeanor and 1219 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: and you know, but we see the big like why 1220 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: did they mess with that guy? Why did they give 1221 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: them that? You know, but because it was a felony 1222 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: act doesn't mean that they actually got the felony, you 1223 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean a lot of times, you know, 1224 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: because I mean, I've been hit with the felony and 1225 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: then you know, and then it's and it gets reduced 1226 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: down to something you're like, dude, that's not a felony, 1227 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: Like why am I getta hit? The felony, you know, 1228 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you realize it's not 1229 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: really you know, that's what it has to be hit with. 1230 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: And a lot of people that you know, are either 1231 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: educated or not educated, may actually just take the felony 1232 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: and run, you know, but some people will fight it. 1233 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 1: And and I hate to say that, but that's the 1234 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: reality if you sit down and you realize the court 1235 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 1: systems are you know, and there are there are prosecutors 1236 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: I've known over you know, in twenty six years of 1237 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: being a criminal defense attorney, I have known prosecutors who 1238 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: literally take spaghetti, throw it up there to the wall 1239 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: and say, well, if he doesn't get an attorney, this 1240 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: guy might take a deal and he might do this. 1241 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: We might be able to get a better charge. And those, 1242 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, those are the types of prosecutors we don't need. 1243 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, that they're not looking out for anybody but 1244 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: themselves and their own record and notches on their belt 1245 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And so it's refreshing to hear 1246 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: somebody who's a prosecutor talk about the human side of 1247 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: what's happening to a lot of people. And a lot 1248 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: of people that come into my office who need a 1249 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney, as I all them right out of 1250 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: the gate. You're not a criminal. You're being charged with 1251 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: the crime for some reason. I maybe three or four 1252 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: percent of my clients are criminals professionals, and that's what 1253 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: they do, and part of their job is going to jail, 1254 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: and you know, that's it. Everybody else something happened in 1255 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: their life and they're in this situation and they don't 1256 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: need the book thrown out. So I'm hoping that especially 1257 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: out of the airport in l A and on all 1258 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: the cannabis cases, that we see more prosecutors lend themselves 1259 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: to to that human side and say, what, how can 1260 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: we help this person not cought in this situation And 1261 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people, what are you in your office now? No, 1262 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: he's at home. I was like, I came right from 1263 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: in some guy busted with, you know, a half ounce 1264 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 1: of cannabis in his car. You know, But all of 1265 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: these cannabis cases need to really just go away. And 1266 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: I hope that's a road that you're you're gonna take 1267 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: l A down. Absolutely, I mean it's a road I'd be, 1268 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, very happy to take l A down. It's 1269 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: like I said, it just frees up in my mind. 1270 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 1: It just frees up more resources to really focus on 1271 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the you know, there's really bad actors. Yeah, and there's 1272 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: a good feel when I look at you. It's like 1273 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: because I feel like my cousin, my sister, my friend 1274 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: that I grew up with is in a high position 1275 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: and that's what I look at. That's what I feel 1276 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: when I look at you, And that's the vibe I'm 1277 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: getting from you too, which is which is awesome. So 1278 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: I thank you for that. You might be a big 1279 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: liar and you're gonna go out there and just throw everybody, 1280 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think I don't think so either. I 1281 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: feel like, check this out. Remember I got you on tape, 1282 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Marin a real spit. I need to get Pitt out, Jason, 1283 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: remember my boy Jason Me, Yeah, hits in. We need 1284 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: to get him out. That being said, Marc, just let 1285 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: you know. Marina has a smoke before. But we're gonna 1286 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: do a fun version of the High five with her 1287 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 1: and make it to where it fits her appropriately. Question 1288 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: number one, how old are you the first time you 1289 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: ever smelt cannabis and where did you smell it from? Oh? 1290 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: That one's easy. I mean, did I remember, yeah, when 1291 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: I went to Berkeley one, so not in high school nine, 1292 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: nobody else there, so not that I visit that I 1293 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: remember Berkeley because you're on telegraph or something that's exactly 1294 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 1: what need telegraph. Probably when I was that's in San Francisco, Mr. 1295 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Geographics just over there, that's not telegraph and Berkeley player 1296 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,439 Speaker 1: telegraphing Bancroft all the way. And yeah, probably day one, 1297 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: probably when I was visiting with my mom, and it 1298 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: just because in Berkeley, it just at least back then 1299 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: and probably more so now everywhere. Yeah, you know, you're like, 1300 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: there's no denying it. There's no skunk, right because that's 1301 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 1: like a hundred skunk because that's like not you can 1302 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: take telegraph. People walk all the way straight into Oakland 1303 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: off Tellog Martin Luther King. Yeah. I used to go 1304 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: to Flints of Barbecue over there on Martin Luther, than 1305 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Everard and Jones, all those spots. I used to frequent 1306 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 1: that area so tough. I loved it. Oh, yes, I 1307 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,520 Speaker 1: used to go there, and of course the record store 1308 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: right there you go hang out and oh one of 1309 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: the best and coolest spots to go to when you're 1310 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: at Berkeley. I used to love going to that campus, 1311 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: hanging out, going to football games. They're basketball games, the 1312 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: whole nine mark taking away question number two. Al Right, 1313 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 1: I think I got this here. Question number two of 1314 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: the candidate's top one five, What was your good friends 1315 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: favorite way to use cannibates? He's a lot more than 1316 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: he looks. Oh, I no, no, no, this was so 1317 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: I know exactly the friend I'm thinking about. Oh, she 1318 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: loves edibles, the same one that was trying to fly them. Yeah. Yeah, 1319 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: got a friend name Marina. I mean, her name's Mary 1320 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Tongan is my Samoan sister. I'll have to send her 1321 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: those links. So she's gonna talking about I'm not gonna 1322 01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: say her name, but she Yeah, I know she loves 1323 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: name is Mary. After we get off the show, her 1324 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: names was Schelle Obama. She's like, oh, yeah, I mean 1325 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: question number three of the high five, craziest place you've 1326 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: ever smelled cannabis? You know, I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes 1327 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: I smell it in church? Amen? Amen? Yeahby Chris Frank 1328 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: Kito sitting in the pulpit, Chris, I need to go 1329 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: to that church. Yeah, I'm walking the we walk in 1330 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: the buildings we're looking at new facilities. Alright, alright, Question 1331 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: number four the cannabis talk one on one high five 1332 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: back there in Berkeley. What were your friends go to 1333 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Munchie's after they got high? Blondie's pizza. That's a good one. 1334 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,479 Speaker 1: Good look at you. No fat slice fast, she said, 1335 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: fat slice. But Blondie was out there too, though, Wasn't 1336 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: that they were both from? Because yeah, I remember, not exactly, 1337 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 1: and even till today, folks, I mean Mark, you brought 1338 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: up Hayton n Ashbury. That's in San Francisco. You can 1339 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: go there and still pick up a sack two on 1340 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: the corners and just hang out and vibe and you know, 1341 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: and that's a real spit of whatever you want. But 1342 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: when you talk about Berkeley, it's telegraph and still each other. 1343 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 1: This day, folks go out there and experience it, because 1344 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: telegraph is one of those experiences in life that you 1345 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: get that real. There's a big different culture at Berkeley 1346 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: that is different and unique than any other. It's not 1347 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: like U. C l A, not like USC not like 1348 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 1: even Stanford. Berkeley is its own unique organization and areas. 1349 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 1: So as you mentioned those spots, I just want to 1350 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: make sure people listen, going, go go on a trip, 1351 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: Go check it out. It's really worth it. Question number 1352 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: five of the High Five with Marina Torres and you 1353 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 1: can check out our website Marina Tares dot com. She's 1354 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 1: a candidate for the l A City Attorney office. If 1355 01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: you could could hang out with somebody, whether smoking, cannabis, 1356 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 1: dead or alive, who would it be and why you 1357 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: could sit there and vibe and just chop it up? 1358 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: You know, you guys have been mentioning like, I don't 1359 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: even know, you know, President of Barack Obama smoke. He 1360 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: said he didn't know, but I think he did once 1361 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 1: he smokes. Smoke. Yeah, we smoke that Bama. It's got 1362 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: some MoMA right now, that Obama, he got the bad 1363 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: he got a brand Obama. Yeah. Now there's no longer 1364 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 1: president and kind of can relax, you know mentioned earlier, 1365 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: how would we to grab a drink with him? Yeah? 1366 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: If I could Barack Obama, I think so. If you 1367 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: could smoke. And if he said, Marina, take a hit, 1368 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: you want to hit and a couple of years time, 1369 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe not now, but when you need it, when 1370 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: you need it for medical at least she didn't say no. 1371 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 1: So the us out after you're out of federal employment. 1372 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: That's that's definitely a precursor to that. Yeah, you know what, 1373 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: let's bring up that fact that you just say federal employment. 1374 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Something happened that really disturbed me with Joe Biden, President 1375 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden when he got into office. Yeah, well, you know, 1376 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 1: I was a big fan, right and I see the 1377 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: picture of you and Joe, and I'm sure you're a 1378 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: big fan as well, coming from the baroqu family. Um, 1379 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: he said. You know, he was so acting like Bernie's 1380 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 1: standpoint of cannabis this, cannabis that, and I felt like 1381 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: they haven't done ship since, which I feel like I've 1382 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 1: been bamboozled. And I just call a ball ball and 1383 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 1: a curve of curve. Right. So I was voting for him, 1384 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: but I said, I've been disappointed him as the ratings 1385 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: are two percent, still higher than Trump's right now, but 1386 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: still very low. So let's just call that what it 1387 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: is too, folks. That being said, it's not good by 1388 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: any means. And you guys heard me preach about him, 1389 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: and now you're hearing me say, come on, Doug, I'm 1390 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: not I'm not filling the hype. Yeah, but my point 1391 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 1: behind what I'm saying and asking you, Marinez, what is 1392 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: your thought and take on Once he got into office, 1393 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: he said, anybody who's smoking or using cannabis come out 1394 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: with it, and then fired. I believe we did the 1395 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: research because I battled with Blue about it, because Blue 1396 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: brought it up. This was a couple of shows back 1397 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and then we did research and you lost. Mark. I 1398 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: don't even think you're here do You're never here, so 1399 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't even say what you think. You're never here, Mark, 1400 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: So I don't even know why you say it was you. 1401 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 1: I would have known it was you. I haven't done 1402 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 1: a show with you, and like, no, it was Mrs doubtfire. 1403 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: And plus I'm asking Marina your thoughts on Joe Biden 1404 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: saying anybody who works here, it's fine, it's fine, come 1405 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: out and tell us if you use cannabis. And then 1406 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: five people that came out got fired for it because 1407 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 1: they came out. Oh that was I, I use it Bank. 1408 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 1: I mean that that's unfortunate. And I think especially if 1409 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: you're if you're looking at really talented people like those 1410 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 1: are people whose talents no longer are you know, in 1411 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: the government where they should be and it's the same 1412 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 1: story quite frankly, like the federal government, you know, everywhere 1413 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: you have to pass a background check like that is 1414 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 1: part of the question they as gonna. I can tell you. 1415 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 1: I feel like the federal government loses out on some 1416 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 1: amazing candidates because of that. What't you think more people 1417 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: would just lie? They did? They did, They did lie, 1418 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: and then they got caught for lying, and they got 1419 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: cut because they were lying. But they probably told you 1420 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: I think the ones that got hit were the ones 1421 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: that told the truth. They told the truth after they 1422 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: had already passed the light of tector test, because they 1423 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 1: probably took a light of tector test, right, you guys 1424 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,600 Speaker 1: have to take a light. So they lied on their application, 1425 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, and then they came out and 1426 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 1: told the truth and that's probably why they were cut. 1427 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,599 Speaker 1: I just felt like that was so dirty. That's that's 1428 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: the story, you know what I mean. And I think 1429 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: even people that are you know that I would just 1430 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: not answer that. Yeah, that's what That's what happened to 1431 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Or they just say, you know, 1432 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,759 Speaker 1: on their application, lie right, and they know I haven't 1433 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 1: and you know, as you should lie. So it's unfortunate 1434 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: because then again, you lose out a lot of it. 1435 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: You lose that on a lot of talent, right, And 1436 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: she's lying right now every point about her answer. Marina, 1437 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 1: let me point out out about your answer that I 1438 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: respect and appreciate. You could have danced around it. You 1439 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 1: could have stuck up for Joe in a way of 1440 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,799 Speaker 1: a political answer of well that's the way the officers 1441 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: try to do. But you said no and you didn't 1442 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 1: like it. I really respect that from you, to be 1443 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 1: honest with you, because I almost was asking this in 1444 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 1: a way to hear if you're gonna tap dance around it, 1445 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: to be like, okay, is this chick? And I be like, no, 1446 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 1: let me give the politically okay answer. But you said no, 1447 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: and that wasn't cool, And for that I really still 1448 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: still not only that, but like that just shows how 1449 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: real you are, because a lot of people that run 1450 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 1: for big offices tap dance around so many answers. They 1451 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 1: don't say, yeah, that is well, that's terrible, especially about 1452 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,560 Speaker 1: the actor president right now, who you're on that side representing. 1453 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, they don't say what you just said. 1454 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 1: So for that, I take my hat off for you again. 1455 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's again. I just feel like there's there's 1456 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: so many big issues that our country is facing. Right 1457 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,680 Speaker 1: We're still not out of COVID yet. Now we have inflation, 1458 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and you know, we we have these supply bottlenecks that 1459 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 1: means no one's getting a Christmas present this year, and 1460 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 1: it makes a kind of light of it, right, But 1461 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of major issues right now. So I 1462 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 1: think we need as much talent as we can get 1463 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: in the federal government, and things like that are just 1464 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,640 Speaker 1: preventing good people with good talents from coming in and 1465 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 1: helping us out. Well, Mark, is there anything else you 1466 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: want to ask? If you joined the last five minutes 1467 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: of the show, I'm sure you might ask a question 1468 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: that we already did, but before we let Marina go 1469 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: as some now some of us have other real jobs, 1470 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, not like YouTube bozos. You know, we gotta 1471 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 1: get out and go to court and work and we 1472 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: don't get to have fun all. But we're so happy 1473 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: that we were able to get you here, Marina, And 1474 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, from the first conversation we had on the 1475 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:39,520 Speaker 1: phone to now, I'm very excited about helping get elected 1476 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 1: and seeing how we can really really make some change 1477 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 1: in some noise with all this cannabis that is out there. 1478 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I wish you were here to do a shut the 1479 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: funk Up Friday with her. That would have been awesome. 1480 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 1: As soon as you're not a federal prosecutor. I do 1481 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: you want to do shut the funk Up Friday? And 1482 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: we're going to have to pass a joint Okay, okay, 1483 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 1: she agreed, All right, I did agreeably. Well not only that, 1484 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 1: but but here's the thing. I think while she's in office, 1485 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 1: because I do believe she's gonna win, I believe that 1486 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 1: it will go federally legal. So I think it'll be, 1487 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, on a federal level, all across the board 1488 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: legal Mark. Mark doesn't agree with me, but I do. 1489 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? You know, I think 1490 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: it could be graduate or asking me. We want to 1491 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,839 Speaker 1: ask a real good lawyer, not one of these Stanford 1492 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: lawyer with bozo attorneys. Right now. We are real attorneys 1493 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 1: I mentioned before. I do I do think. I do 1494 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 1: think in the next five to ten years, we're gonna 1495 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: see movement on the federal side. Um. I don't think 1496 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 1: it's going to go all the way recreational like right 1497 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 1: away I think it's going to be a graduated level. 1498 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's going to get down the schedule 1499 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: a little bit, but we are we I think we 1500 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 1: have to. I mean I think the science yeah, and 1501 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,760 Speaker 1: I think the science is out there. I mean, the 1502 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 1: stigma slowly going away a and more quicker and other 1503 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,520 Speaker 1: in you know states of California and Carlo and Colorado. Um. 1504 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 1: But I think it's going to be graduated. I think 1505 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,640 Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, moving in to to 1506 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, having a prescription and then 1507 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 1: at some point could be recreational. But I do think 1508 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: in the next my prediction is still in the next 1509 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,599 Speaker 1: five to ten year. So how many states are legal 1510 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: right now? Joe? Right now there's forty seven states that 1511 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 1: have legal cannabis in some form or another. Three states 1512 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: only do not allow three, right, So I think it's 1513 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a matter of you know, the federal 1514 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 1: the Feds have to have to open up. Yeah, when 1515 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: you see it like that, And we were talking about 1516 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: even prosecution wise people I came up. I don't even 1517 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 1: know if I said this. On long voted for cannabis 1518 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: than anybody, any candidate, any of the can period. But 1519 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,559 Speaker 1: when you look at that, and I said, I think 1520 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 1: it was even off air and we're talking about what 1521 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 1: we should do about decriminalization, and I said, where the 1522 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: cannabis is recreationally legal in those states? Maybe we start 1523 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: with those states, California being one of them, Colorado being another. Uh, 1524 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: start freeing these ones if they don't have the other 1525 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 1: convictions that put them in there are the priors, this 1526 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 1: and that, you know, just make it to where, okay, 1527 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: we can work on these states now, which is I 1528 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 1: believe seven of the forty seven that is like that. 1529 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 1: So I don't know that number for sure, but I 1530 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 1: think it's around that. And my point is if we 1531 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 1: started there, that's a decent start. That's gonna empty the 1532 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,759 Speaker 1: jails and prisons, but it's gonna give a little loose 1533 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: But it goes back to the money, Joe is you 1534 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: know then the hardest part is, well, they make a 1535 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: halfway house and they make more money you fix the problem. 1536 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's no money in fixing problems, you know, unfortunately, 1537 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 1: And I say that, but you know, and any point 1538 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: you can't fix problems unless you want that to go away. 1539 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 1: And if there's such money tied to these problems, meaning 1540 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 1: that there's thousands and thousands of people being housed in 1541 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: prison right now for just cannabis. And if you just 1542 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,599 Speaker 1: fix it and you go cool, we've made it legal. 1543 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 1: We're all monetizing all across the countries, and we thousands 1544 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,400 Speaker 1: of unemployed people and we let them out. Really, there's 1545 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of what's going on now. It's called COVID. Yeah, 1546 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 1: yeah's and let's not go there. Marina, is there anything 1547 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: else that you want to promote or talk about before 1548 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 1: we let you go that we may have missed? No, 1549 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,839 Speaker 1: thank you. You've done an excellent job of plugging my website. 1550 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: My consultant always yells at me because he says I 1551 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 1: don't do it enough. So Marina Taures dot com, I 1552 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,760 Speaker 1: would love to hear your thoughts because if anyone wants 1553 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 1: to get involved in the campaign or learn more, just 1554 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 1: go to my website. Um. I would say, it's been again, 1555 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 1: an absolute privilege to be here. I've been so I've 1556 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun um and you know, it's 1557 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 1: been exciting to kind of share all the great things 1558 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: and you know, energy and big change that we're going 1559 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: to do once I'm elected City Attorney. I mean that 1560 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,679 Speaker 1: that office, city government in general, but especially that office. 1561 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really in need for that and it's 1562 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: going to affect the lives at every single end we know. 1563 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 1: And I can't wait for cappn pick one of us 1564 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Marina Tores for office. I love you. Well, there it is, guys, 1565 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one, and remember this, if no 1566 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: one else loves you, we do. Thank you for listening 1567 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I Heart 1568 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. 1569 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 1: H