WEBVTT - NASCAR Driver William Byron

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and i' and this is cut to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good do it? Good do they's getting down to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good do it. We asked the questions you always want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, but no one ever asked, let's cut to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't heard am about it, then we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know. It's all I hope to hear you do.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Hey gee, what's up? Man? What's up? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna not say what's going on, so I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to switch up mind, switch it up, switcher whoa, that's

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon afternoon, Good day, afternoon, my after room, Good day, mate.

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<v Speaker 1>You just didn't purpose um. You know it's There are

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<v Speaker 1>some funny people in the world, and in our production team,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a young lady named Sarah. The Sarah is

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<v Speaker 1>O c D. She makes sure we do this this

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, wait, like you can't let just when we

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<v Speaker 1>need to start. She's awesome because I am not O

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<v Speaker 1>c D. I'm kind of like whatever. But Sarah came

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<v Speaker 1>in today and she had on glass. She had glasses

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<v Speaker 1>on her shirt in the middle, hanging from a shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>hanging from a shirt as if they are reading glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>However they are not. No, so I said, those are

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<v Speaker 1>nice glasses, and they are very nice, glass smooth, except

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<v Speaker 1>their fashion accessories. They do not have a prescription, not

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. Now, I said to Sarah, I said, there

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<v Speaker 1>was your god. She says, oh, no, tell my glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>They just look good. But yes, she puts them on

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<v Speaker 1>before we start recording. She needs them to see which

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<v Speaker 1>is the best. But it gets best. But there, So

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well let me. She said, what you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>always have accessories. No, that's a female thing. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it, and I get it. So I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, so if you were to get twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>down the road to your house and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take you twenty minutes to get back, would you go

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<v Speaker 1>get him? She goes, oh no, I would not. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but she said, but I would for a red bull

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<v Speaker 1>when one of her vices. But here's the best. Then

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<v Speaker 1>she tells me when she's driving, she's she's a police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>She takes the glasses off, as as if it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make some sort of a difference. She goes, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get pulled over or look bad and they

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<v Speaker 1>think I need them, Yes, and I did, so that

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<v Speaker 1>led me to and I said, are you a bad driver?

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<v Speaker 1>Still again her glasses, her non prescription glasses on her face.

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<v Speaker 1>Her response is, or I'm a horrible driver? Like how many?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times have you been pulled over? Just just

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<v Speaker 1>just raise the number twenty six or twenty seven? Top?

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<v Speaker 1>And why have you been pulled over twenty six or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven times? She's not a good driver, suspicion of something.

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<v Speaker 1>She needs to probably get her eyes checked. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>off the most wanted list because you got twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>pullovers and you're wearing now prescription glasses. You probably need

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<v Speaker 1>to get your eyes checked, right, and and your and

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<v Speaker 1>your record expung And she and now she has her

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<v Speaker 1>glasses on and she's recording. They're not real. We love,

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<v Speaker 1>we do, but this is hilarious, though, it is hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six times, like out of the twenty six times,

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<v Speaker 1>like give us examples, like how many of them have

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<v Speaker 1>you gotten tickets for? Just number? How have you gotten

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen tickets and still have a driver's license? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to court for it? No? Actually a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times I get like a you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a warning because I'm a girl. But you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to two brothers, so we don't know. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm like, no, my black gas, I got

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<v Speaker 1>going over twenty six times. I got a record my

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<v Speaker 1>car getting searched. What you're doing over here? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>help you? I'll get back onto microL fifteen times. But

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<v Speaker 1>my lawyer when you say, oh, my lawyer, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do it, don't retain them. Yeah, I got a public

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<v Speaker 1>defender because if I get another ticket at like a

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<v Speaker 1>moving violation, um, then they could take my license away

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<v Speaker 1>for a year. And most people that doesn't happen to

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<v Speaker 1>unless they've been breaking. So okay, so what is some

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<v Speaker 1>of your movie violations that you have experienced? Please please

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<v Speaker 1>take us down that road? Just speeding and then so

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of recks, are you okay? A bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of recks which you've never been injured? Right? Okay, Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the most important. He has not been injured.

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<v Speaker 1>But she what what I've total three cars I've had.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this was gonna be about me today. Listen, Karen,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get off. We're trying to we're trying to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>people into the cut to it room, the aura. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to know about our teams, and you were just

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<v Speaker 1>first on the list. I've only total three cars. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you total three? Complete? Take us through one of

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<v Speaker 1>the car accidents? Please? Oh? Um, one of them wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>my fault. Hey, that's what I swear. It wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what every criminal says. It's a jailhouse full of folks.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't me. I tried that once. It didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? What happened? Um? The my hood flew up

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<v Speaker 1>while driving, so I pulled over. You were full and

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<v Speaker 1>just surprises you close it first? How did your car hood?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's really old vol though. Okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>just so happened to be near a fire station, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, these fire remember helping me try to close

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<v Speaker 1>thet I know the sounds unbelievable. Well I don't hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on. Let me tell you what I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>who it sounds unbelievable for for some of the black pholds. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's who sounds unbelievable. They're just some things. We just

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<v Speaker 1>have different learned speed. We do have different learning spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a black guy with a tattoo stops in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the firehouse right in my hood of an old

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<v Speaker 1>vovo pops open. Three firemen are not coming to assist me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was three. Oh yeah, and some guys too,

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<v Speaker 1>weren't there search on? So three guys with brad approach.

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<v Speaker 1>A black guy's a bad joke, so go ahead. They

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<v Speaker 1>were hoping to try to close the lid and make

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<v Speaker 1>it so latch. Such good samaritans. A drunk driver plowed

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<v Speaker 1>into my car. Okay, So I wasn't even in the

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<v Speaker 1>car for that one. Okay, Hey, you missed the key

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<v Speaker 1>word that one. What about the other two? Really? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So I flew off an embankment and dune we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>nice off, We're just gonna. I didn't really need to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap this band up. Please take me through flying off

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<v Speaker 1>embankment because I didn't. I just got the look my

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<v Speaker 1>biscuit that flew off the plate. I didn't drop some

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<v Speaker 1>crackers on the floor. My dog has eaten my salad.

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<v Speaker 1>But flying off hi bank I just have never heard continue. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, whenever there's like no, no, I do

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<v Speaker 1>not know. You know there's a pothole and and well

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<v Speaker 1>I overcorrected. I mean there are some wine and roads

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<v Speaker 1>and boone, so maybe that's it over corect. I miscalculated

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Go ahead, Michael Jordan's I took out part

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<v Speaker 1>of a guardrail and two trees and they had to cables.

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<v Speaker 1>So you went out in the blaze of glorious. What

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<v Speaker 1>you say, Hey, did they do a sobriety tests on site?

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<v Speaker 1>I have had to sobriety tests, but not that day. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and both times I had not been drinking at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just I was driving a little bit a

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<v Speaker 1>little bad. Did you notice the speed in which she

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<v Speaker 1>tried to at the end of that sentence? Beginning next

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<v Speaker 1>she hit that. I was driving that bad the same

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<v Speaker 1>way she hit that in bank two day fast all right,

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<v Speaker 1>last the last one. Please, I'm loving this because you

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<v Speaker 1>do such a fantastic job with our recording. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know you are kind of bad, kind kind kind.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see this one coming, like when you see

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<v Speaker 1>people you go. She didn't hit it in bank, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, go ahead, go ahead? Last one, last one.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a CRX. You you had is the right

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<v Speaker 1>word former in high school, and I did not see

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<v Speaker 1>a car that was stopped. It was turning left and

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<v Speaker 1>I just wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, the

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<v Speaker 1>car was at a bleat stop right. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm distracted, you know with what driver? Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You got distracted about podcasts or that was actually in

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<v Speaker 1>high school there wasn't a podcast the radio. I would say, Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts have helped I haven't had a wreck. Um, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a ticket in like three years. I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>a wreck intend And I think it's because I stay

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<v Speaker 1>on task better because I'm listening to to podcasts as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to music, which makes me kind of you know, daydream,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, m hmm. Podcasts have saved her life.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you all been in rex Hey? Not to that extent,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we do to all our to all our guests,

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<v Speaker 1>we thank you for your time. Um, we value you

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<v Speaker 1>and m God bless all the other view close. That's

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<v Speaker 1>on the roll with s get out the way. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>who do we have next? Coming up? On the cut

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast? We've got William Byron, driver of the

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty four Chevrolet for Hendrick Motorsports, a former Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year in the kN N Pro series and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the up and coming young stars of NASCAR,

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<v Speaker 1>William Byron on the cut to a podcast, William coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to get iced up. Their questions selected at

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<v Speaker 1>random that you have no idea of what's coming. There

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<v Speaker 1>also may or may not be follow ups to each question,

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<v Speaker 1>So Smitty, go ahead and ice them up. Your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream flavor. Flavor? Uh, probably chocolate chip cookie, though

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's as pretty good. Will knows that Chi. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>call you chill? Will chill? Will you? It's good? So

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<v Speaker 1>did a little research research team. Best scene in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Forrest Gump. Best scene? So I was in South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina a couple of weeks ago, and I would have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like the shrimp boat scene when he when

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<v Speaker 1>he jumps off and he just starts Yeah, when Lieutenant

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<v Speaker 1>Dan is just like finally happy with himself and he

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<v Speaker 1>he jumps off and goes rides off into the sunset. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like that one. If you can lose one of these senses, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which one would you be okay with losing? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know whoa any of the how many six right?

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<v Speaker 1>Sixth sense was a movie? Yeah, it was a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only five five. Let's let's go, let's so, what

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<v Speaker 1>what are the what are your six? And then tell

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<v Speaker 1>us for the rest of us mere mortals clearly, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a man. I mean if I had to

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<v Speaker 1>lose one, no, no, no, no, let's say all over,

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<v Speaker 1>let's give us a six of your taste, hearing, vision

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<v Speaker 1>and uh feel I guess yeah, and then yeah, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good job. Now which one of the five would you

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<v Speaker 1>would you would? Would you be? Okay? Were losing for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life? Done zo? You know? Probably

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<v Speaker 1>since I race, probably smell I don't you smell a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot car? So I can I can do without that? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you don't need to know if something's burning.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can. I'm just saying, don't you smell

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<v Speaker 1>something burnon? Yeah? Maybe so rubber? Yeah a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's only had a track, all right, last one? Last one?

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<v Speaker 1>Which superpower? Would you choose? Flying or being invisible? Uh? Flying? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Just because you could? I mean, you can cover a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ground if you're invisible, like you're just not

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<v Speaker 1>noticed by anybody. So that doesn't sound too cool, sounds

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<v Speaker 1>kind of creepy, like that Invisible Man movie. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of creepy, So I got it. Cool. Cool, alright, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's get down to it. Take us through. Who is

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<v Speaker 1>william as the twentysomething your old NASCAR guy? What was

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<v Speaker 1>your upbringing here in Charlotte? Yeah, what did you experience?

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I, um, so I played a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of football as a kid. That's pretty I was

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<v Speaker 1>like linebacker actually, which doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped growing out in ninth grade and then I

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<v Speaker 1>went to racing. But now, I I played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different sports as a kid, but really for me,

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<v Speaker 1>racing was kind of what I watched all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I, um, when I would come home from school,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was probably four or five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>probably five years old, and I turned on the TV

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<v Speaker 1>and watched a NASCAR Truck Series race And so to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was what got me hooked. And so my dad

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<v Speaker 1>every year would ask me, you know, what's one event

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<v Speaker 1>that you really want to go to and and uh

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of. And you know, is it a

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<v Speaker 1>football game? Is it? Um whatever? Baseball game? And I

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<v Speaker 1>said a NASCAR race? And so we we went to

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<v Speaker 1>Martinsville Speedway in Virginia when I was six years old

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<v Speaker 1>and uh sat up in the stands, watched the race

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<v Speaker 1>and was hooked ever since. I went to probably six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven races a year after that until I was

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years old, and then got into um a race

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<v Speaker 1>car for the first time. I didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>use a clutch, didn't know how to use sick shift

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. So it's kind of difficult. But once

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<v Speaker 1>I got going and kind of um, you know, got

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<v Speaker 1>the rhythm of it. Um. It actually started before that

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<v Speaker 1>on on I Racing, which is kind of a virtual

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<v Speaker 1>racing platform, so um. So yeah, it's just been something

0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that's been kind of at my heart ever since I

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<v Speaker 1>was five years old. Really, all right, so you brought

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<v Speaker 1>it up first. So I spoke to a few NASCAR guys, right,

0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.919
<v Speaker 1>regular fans, and then some other fans and then some

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<v Speaker 1>other people that are in NASCAR, and so I asked

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<v Speaker 1>that there's two gentlemen that that kind of my uh

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<v Speaker 1>NASCAR liaisons. Yeah, we got some inside we got but

0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.199
<v Speaker 1>but these two guys, uh that I know, one of

0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.359
<v Speaker 1>them U fifty sixty years old and they are NASCAR

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<v Speaker 1>through and through, and so I asked them about you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I consider them true blue Nascar. Um, yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>like live and breathe. They said, look, if you're not

0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:01.399
<v Speaker 1>my driver, I will talk about everyone else as like

0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they're nobody, but my driver is the best. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like wow, And so I said, okay, so William.

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<v Speaker 1>What about William as a driver. What do you think

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 1>about him? They said, Man, he's a young I Racing

0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:19.879
<v Speaker 1>virtual racer. MM, well, explain what a virtual race I

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<v Speaker 1>racing is, because I don't know like we think of

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<v Speaker 1>When I first heard that, you are just some PS

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<v Speaker 1>five kind that's what I thought. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was like somebody gave him the NASCAR oh

0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:37.840
<v Speaker 1>three and so yeah, he played it online. Give us,

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<v Speaker 1>give us understanding what I Racing is. Yeah, So I

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Racing is. It's probably closer to like a flight simulator.

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<v Speaker 1>For you know, if you're so if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be a commercial pilot or you're trying to be a

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<v Speaker 1>private aviation pilot, you're probably gonna have some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flight simulation training. And I feel like I Racing is

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely closer to that. You know. Now for for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's never been on it, it's probably they don't

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>understand that because So what they do and I racing,

0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>is they scan the tracks. So they go and it's

0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of money to go and scan each

0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.639
<v Speaker 1>race track. And they stop a golf simulator, so I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. They go in and literally scan the whole

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.480
<v Speaker 1>golf course, like the river, the pond, the old bee,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm add a lot of times in the out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds sections, right, And so I get that party.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that they did that for the

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<v Speaker 1>iration because I just I thought they just it is

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<v Speaker 1>a PlayStation on steroids. That's what I saw, the same thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't have some dumb questions, Yeah, I

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.880
<v Speaker 1>say super dumb. I'm talking about when they when they

0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.560
<v Speaker 1>say there's no dumb question. No, we got a whole

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 1>shuffled dumb questions. Yeah, I'll put myself out there. I'm

0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask. Yeah. So they scan the tracks every every

0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:03.439
<v Speaker 1>like oscillation in the track, every bump. So just like

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the you know, racetracks have like small like if you're

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.160
<v Speaker 1>driving down the road, you're going eighty miles, you might

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>feel a couple of every nook and cream kind of

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 1>every pothole and every little there's not a lot of

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.719
<v Speaker 1>potholes but but yeah, like it'll be you'll have like

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>banking changes in little variations in the banking and they'll

0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.199
<v Speaker 1>have all that stuff simulated. And is that only like

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<v Speaker 1>the is the bank is like the high area where

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<v Speaker 1>the wall is and stuff. Yeah exactly. Yeah. So so

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<v Speaker 1>so you're in this eye racing virtual. Why does that

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<v Speaker 1>benefit you in becoming a NASCAR or does it keep

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<v Speaker 1>your your tools sharp? Like what is the benefit of that,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the narrative has been well you

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>just eye racer, just virtual NASCAR guy, you know a

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<v Speaker 1>real racer. Yes, you're not a real racer. That's that's

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 1>what some people would say. I don't believe that we

0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:00.200
<v Speaker 1>use simulation as like it's a monumental tool and racing now,

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.679
<v Speaker 1>so we don't have any practice now with with the

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>COVID situation. So so all the teams do is use

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>simulation to to basically simulate what the car needs to

0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:13.120
<v Speaker 1>be set up as so like the ride high, the

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.240
<v Speaker 1>shocks in the springs, everything in the car is all

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.920
<v Speaker 1>based on The teams have a computer basically and they

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>say this is an ideal LAPP that the driver would

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.400
<v Speaker 1>would drive and this is how we're going to set

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the car up. So that's really what I Racing is

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.280
<v Speaker 1>a part of that, and it's more of a part

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.040
<v Speaker 1>of it for a driver perspective, to try to sharpen

0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 1>your tools, like you were saying, and um, you know,

0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.919
<v Speaker 1>it's just a tool. I mean, but definitely when I

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 1>was getting started, I had never been in a real

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>race car at you know, thirteen years old. It was

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the only tool that I had. So how can you

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<v Speaker 1>not be legally capable of driving a regular car but

0:21:51.520 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you can get a NASCAR can drive yeahs waivers, Yeah

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to sign a waiver, but you don't even

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 1>have a Yeah you're not legal. Yeah, it's crazy. I

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.400
<v Speaker 1>mean you So, racing is kind of like a fraternity, right,

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like a community that if you are

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to be a part of somebody's race team, you

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.399
<v Speaker 1>can you can submit an application. What do you do

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a fraternity sponsorship there? So you can buy your way in. No,

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's some of that, but it's there are

0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 1>some drivers that are considered um rich racers. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say who. Yeah, No, I mean there it's

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a balance of like the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you know come in and they are from a racing

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>family or something like that. You know. For me, I

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't part of a racing family. So for me, it

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 1>was going out to the Legend Car Track which is

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>out at Charlotte, MA Speedway and racing. Um yeah, it

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:58.200
<v Speaker 1>used to be lows and so they have a fifth

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.680
<v Speaker 1>mile track outside. It's kind of like where you cut

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.199
<v Speaker 1>your teeth. So I think, um, you know a lot

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 1>of kids do that and kind of work their way

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.639
<v Speaker 1>up through those different ranks. We have to take a

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.800
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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast dot Com. So I was talking two m R.

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Hart Jr. Talked to him about you and he gave

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>me this information, which is basically, you've embraced the narrative

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of being known for a I racer virtual racer. But

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>he told me that that's not necessarily true. You have been,

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>like you said, racing at a young gauge. So well,

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>is is he kind of true on that or you

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 1>just kind of embraced that. Yeah, I'm an eye racer,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but you've really been You've been UM driving for a

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>long time since you're what years old, fourteen? And so

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<v Speaker 1>really for us, um, you know, when I was so

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I raced for Dale in late models, which is kind

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>of like a it's a it's a full size car,

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's not a full speed car, like it doesn't

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>go two miles an hour. But that's how I got

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to know Dale. And I do really think the I

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>racing thing has become definitely part of my my story,

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's not all my story. Like I

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I really I raced, Um, I've raced for ten years

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>now and a pretty long time, not as long as

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 1>some of the kids, you know, grew up racing seven

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 1>years old, but you know, really for me, and you know,

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been able to win in each series and and

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>progress forward and um, you know one Rookie of the

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Year I think four years in a row. And and

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, won the championship in the in the series

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 1>right below the Cup series, which is kind of it

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>would be like your college level sport. And so you

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>win that championship and then you're able to move up

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>into the next level. So um, so yeah, I raced

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>for Dale in that series and we have a great

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>relationship through that. And then you worked with Kyle Busch

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, so I know Dale and Kyle are

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>very similar working with um. Would you say, no, I know,

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>if you picked you quit down Kyle is Uh. I've

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>been in some meetings with Kyle where he just lays it,

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>lays it to everyone, and Dale is a little bit calmer. Yeah,

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really do that much. But but but wouldn't

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you say obviously both of those individuals having as much

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>success of both of them having UM, would you say

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you picked up a little bit of everything from both

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of those. Yeah. Kyle to me, Kyle kind of taught

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>me the uh the basics of of racing racecraft, you know,

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like he he taught me, you know, how to be aggressive,

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>how to how to manipulate other cars, other people on

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the track. Uh, Dale was more. You know, Dale taught

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>me a lot about the off track stuff, a lot

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>about how to handle yourself, how to manage your team,

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, how to encourage your team to get better.

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'd say totally different guys. M So you got

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to you got on racing expertise, Yeah, and then you

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>got off racing expertise with which and NASCAR is extremely

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>horton because you can just from an outside perspective, you

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>can be average, are okay, but you can make so

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>much more money if you have the right personality and

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>conduct yourself in the right way off the field as well. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely true. And why why do you believe that is? Why?

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>That is? Um? I think that fans gravitate towards Like

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you said, fans are really loyal. So like you, you

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>spoke of two examples of two guys that you know

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>are loyal to their driver. Right, So that's how NASCAR

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>fans are. Like, if they have a driver, it's like

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that guy. They with that guy for a long time, like,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't matter if he changes teams. Or you know,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>whatever he does there with that dude, So it is

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>part of that, you know. I've always come at it

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>of from the performance side, where it's like, if you're

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>not performing, I don't see why you would be popular.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think that it's, um, there's two different ways

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to approach it. For sure, you can be a popular

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>guy and not as as mounted. But I think as

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the sports gotten peeled back and people understand it more, um,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 1>people are gravitating towards the guys who are successful. If

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you're not into NASCAR and you're being a driver, yeah,

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>can you see how people are a little bit confused

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>on what the purpose of driving in the circle? Always

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a good point. It's a good point. I mean,

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it's a simple concept. It's one

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>big left her. Yes, it's a simple like I guess

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get you. I've lived in Charlotte long

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>enough to know about NASCAR, but I'm trying to get

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you to make me a believer into getting into the

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>driver's where I'm literally I'm I'm your biggest fan. Like breakdown,

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>why Nascar? Why do I need Nascar? Like so it's

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>very technical, so like it's a you know, it's a

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>sport that like if you And the reason that that

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I Racing platform is so good is because it brings

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 1>a casual fan in, right, who can just say how

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>much is that? How much I race? I raise and

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>virtual you could do it for probably three hundred just

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.479
<v Speaker 1>like Okay. So when I was looking at a day

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in of life with William Okay, I saw you had

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it in your in your living in your apartment. In

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>your apartment, I think it was in your guest room

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>or your your primary bedroom. And it's probably some time

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>after he recorded back. Yeah it was. But how much

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>is that one cost? Just to give the fan? Who

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>means that's a lot of money he got, he got technology,

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. How many screens? Didn't have three? Three screens?

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>H D four K? Does it? Is it a lot

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of HD M I cables? Ye, there's a lot of yes. No, No,

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's um. That one was probably twenty grand, right,

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, but I've had it since I've started racing

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>in Cup so that's probably two three years. So I

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.239
<v Speaker 1>used my money to buy it because I was like,

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's important. Does your trainer come over your

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>pit pit coach chief come over to help you. I'm

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>not trying to be funny, I'm really asking now it's true. Ever,

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>actually this afternoon, my uh, one of my spotter he

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you know who like communicates with me on the radio.

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>He's coming over to to help me rinch this. So

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>he stands on top of the grandstands and he he

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>is my eyes and ears. It's almost like offense coordinators

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>in the box. Yeah, so you think of like if

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>they're calling a play, he's kind of a play caller.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So if somebody's like there's plays in NASCAR somewhat like restarts,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like every restart, so you have a caution flag and yeah,

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>as soon as you have the yellow, there you go.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm talking about. You see how anywhere else

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.719
<v Speaker 1>but here. Yeah, so as soon as you have that,

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you have a restart is double file and it's like

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>they call it. Yeah, so you'd be like like you

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>were on the interstate and there's like a start line.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So you have a box and the leader controls that.

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So your spoder's job is too it's like being ablementry

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>school when you like a single file line. So your

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>spoder's job is to kind of communicate yourself, will you

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>like communicate where those guys are and how to how

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of it? All right, let's talk ball. Okay,

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they say it's no dumb question, but we're gonna ask

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a few dumb questions. Let's do NASCAR one oh one.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>So you're sitting around, How long is it NASCAR race?

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Probably four hours? Four hours and a half, four hours,

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>three and a half hours. Now I've seen they come

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>out on stage and they announced all the drivers, and

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>some of those drivers have sponsors, liquid sponsors, say, some

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>have Coca Cola, Pepsi, some have water data rade. All

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>of them will be partaking into a liquid that will

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>at some point come out. So, if you're in a

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>car that long one year exhalted, you are spending a

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>ton of energy. You're sweating. So have you eaten prior

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to your race? So yes? Okay, all right, Okay, you

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>eat quite a bit, okay, burning lots of calories. Well,

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>these calories are getting stripped down, and your body will despose,

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>will get rid of. These are useless pieces of food

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>that you no longer use after three or four hours,

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>How you do number one and number two? Because I

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>ain't never seen a TV time out of Nascar. Yeah,

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>there's not. So so you're just holding your booboo. You

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>don't the whole time. You don't. I mean you can

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>go number one. I mean you can go number one.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You can't you just go Yeah, we ain't gonna just

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>skip over there. Like so you're doing one, you'll say

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>once in and what six? So you're telling us, and

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm using air quotes, you've been in the car, yeah,

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>six hundred times, and you're telling me you pet on

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself once. But I know, damn well, you didn't pete

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>in the pool several times in your lifetime. So you're

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>telling me you got that kind of power. Adrenaline, man, adrenaline.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, as soon as you're in the car, you don't,

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't think about anything. There's only one race, and

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the reason that happened was because there was a raind lay.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>So it's stalled kind of my like, um, what do

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you call your routine? Pregame routine? So I had a

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>routine of like going to the restaurant and probably fifteen

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>minutes before I get in the car, and that it

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>all got messed up because rained lay. So I had

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>sat for like two hours just sitting there waiting let

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this being around Smitty and I know

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you're also you're a you're a football fan. You're from Charlotte,

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>so you're you're your Panthers fans. So you probably have

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>some memories of this guy, of this guy playing um

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>when on Saturday afternoons. I will remember him turning into

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>if you ever watched the movie Gramdmas. I don't know

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>how old you are, if you ever watched the he

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>may or may not have saying it. So, so you know,

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you have Gizmo who's nice and cutly, he's friendly, and

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>then like a little bit after let me, let me

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>get to the point. And so then after in the room,

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I know you're I'm a co host. I mean you're

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you're still here, so you you know, he go from

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of the Gizmo to the Grandplin. Like around Saturday

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>afternoon is when he would seriously when he would start

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>preparing pre gaming for you an get irritable. Yeah, So

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so around start as when you started building up with him.

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>For you, when do you typically start getting amped up

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>for a race? Because we know you typically have commitments,

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a sponsor opportunity to whatever the case. Maybe

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>when do you typically start like getting up getting yourself ready, man,

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, probably Friday afternoon, like I

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>start to do I start to watch some film and

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>do some things there. And so we have like our

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>meetings on Tuesday, I'm sure, like similar to any other

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>like athlete or sport, Like you go into your meeting

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and you talk about what went well, what didn't go well.

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>We watch film. We have a lot of metrics to

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>measure and that film. How do you watch film on driving? Yeah,

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>so we've got ah. It's this app called smt or

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a basically a computer um simulation, so it shows

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>all your all your inputs, like like your driver inputs

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>would be your throttle or your you know, gas break

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're staring wheel so that it's different for every driver,

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>so they can ding you on you know, you're not

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>being tending to on the st rool, Yeah, if you do,

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're not driving it right, it's like a question

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's kind of like a whole performance report, like

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you you getting graded it you are like PEP getting

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>graded on pit road speed, which is critical like when

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you come down pit road with all the other cars

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, a fraction of a few miles an hour

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>can make a huge difference. So we come down to

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.439
<v Speaker 1>the roads. Is there a limit? Is there a speed

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>limit on pit rolls? Now, it's just based on human air,

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just human error. So you just you hold your

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>foot and you drag the brake at the same time

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's like going down the highway trying to hold fifty.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>So so that's how sometimes I've seen pit guys get

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>hit at times. So it's not like a it's not

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a local speed or designated speed that's supposed to have. Yeah,

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to. I mean there is a local there's

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>a um speed that you have to run. But you

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>try to push that like to you know, we're like

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>point four miles and in football we call that to

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>two and through the whistle. Yeah yeah, And so okay,

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so you they're telling you input so gas and throttle, UM,

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 1>hand placement um, and then you said pitt roll kind

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>of pit roll speed and then um and then what

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>else are you watching film on? So restarts? So like

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the restarts we talked about is uh, you'll go back

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and look at you know, who took advantage of you.

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, did a guy did a guy gets your outside?

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Did he push you in the corner? You know, did

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you make the wrong move? So you kind of you

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of analyze what you did right or wrong? Are

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>there any unwritten rules in Nascar? Like I noticed if

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody gets bumped, people get upset. Take that. You take

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that the hard Why because y'all for me? Like for me,

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think y'allving bumper cars. So you kind of come

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>parent that to like a late hit, like I'm gonna

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>remember that you yes, right, yes, right right. Let's say

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you're raising a guy for a position and he gets

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>underneath of you and he's trying to pass you. Right, Well,

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>if he gets frustrated and he moves you up the

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>track after a few laps, kind of you kind of

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>take that to heart. So you're what do you do? Man?

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Next time I get back to him, I'm shipping him

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 1>into the corner. Shipping, I'm sending him for a ride.

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to push him into the corner faster than

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>he can get. How is that received? When that has happened,

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like checks and balances, right, It's a shouting match.

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a shout at each other. When I see you again,

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I bro, you're gonna see him in like fifteen more

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:44.919
<v Speaker 1>minutes when his next left his car. His pit crew

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>is right next tell you they'll take care of it

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>if I your crew is ready for the bah. Yeah,

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>so you got ready? So yeah, I got. I got

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>a guy that played uh, he played football, Clemson offensive line.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And I got a few different football players. And you've

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>got a new wide receivers because those are the real

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>all stars. You got all slow power people. Man would

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>be ready for the people go down, Like I would

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>take a I take a I don't even know the instrument.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I just pick up something. One of those mechanical tools

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>come across this line. I saw on your show you

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>had your daily goals. Yeah, and you had win a race.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You've had some top ten, some top five finishes, a

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of seconds. Right, What would be the ideal place

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to win your first race on? What track? Like the

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl of NASCAR when you can win your first race?

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>What track do you want to win your first race? Um?

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, Charlotte just because I grew up here,

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's probably the the most relevance to me. You know,

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>if I go and win at Charlotte, MO Speedway, It's

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a big deal for my family. It's gonna

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>be a big deal for me because I grew up

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>like I grew up at that track thinking what would

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>it be like to to race here, you know, with

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody so or a NASCAR So that one's probably big.

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Dayton of five hundred is the biggest race of our season,

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>so that one's probably isn't that the first race? Yeah,

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>first race of the year. So why is the first

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 1>race the most important? I wouldn't say it's the most important,

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's the biggest magnitude. Like it's got like tone

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>almost it does set the tone, and it's one of

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>those things like you either win a championship or your

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Dayton five champion it is because you just it's almost

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you almost think of your your biggest game almost being

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>your last game. That's when you win a championship, and

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>for you guys, it's your first game. So it is

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>almost different from probably what you think of like a

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>football or basketball or even baseball. With the World Series, Yeah,

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it's different. It's different, and we have you know, the

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>championship though, has taken on way more relevance over the

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>last fifteen years, and so it's I mean, I'd rather

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>win a championship than I would the dates. You know,

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>either one, you're going to be considered like one of

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>the grades. Probably in football learned sports they have the

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>locker room yea. For NASCAR, what is considered the locker

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>room where the where the young guys get to learn

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>from the older guys. It's more within your team. So

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you have your race haller, so it's like an eighteen wheeler.

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>You're eighteen wheel haller and um that goes down the

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>highway and all your team guys, everybody lives in that

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>space at the track. So once you arrive at the track,

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>everyone goes to that haller and hangs out. So you

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>know your picker guys, your engineers, and and myself. So

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of your area for your own team. The

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing about the sport is that you don't really

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.280
<v Speaker 1>there's no locker room for the drivers. Like the drivers

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.439
<v Speaker 1>all hang out separately. So I think that's why there's

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>like kind of that animosity sometimes because you don't ever

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>get to talk to me before a young guy like you,

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:06.800
<v Speaker 1>how are you able to interact with some of the

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.280
<v Speaker 1>veteran drivers like uh, I mean, I know Jimmy Johnson

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>as a teammate, But when do you find those opportunities

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to to be able to glean from someone who was

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more established or a veteran. So you

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>just have to reach out, like you just have to

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>like go and say, hey, I need some help or

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I or I need to learn this or that. I

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I sat down with Kevin harvick Um a

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>few years ago when I was a rookie just to

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>understand what to learn from him. Jimmy obviously is a teammate,

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>and Dale and Kyle, so people you know. And then

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>if you have an issue, I think the best way

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>to handle it is to text or call the guy

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>or go see him and say, hey, listen, you know

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 1>I wrecked you or I screwed up or or if

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you he wrecked you, then you expect kind of a

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 1>phone call or something. I just I just never thought about,

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>like you you know, the drivers kind of operate like

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a solo independent maybe even like if I if I

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>take that, and then I think about, like what you Steve,

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>what would happen if you were a young gun locker

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>room and you never got experience or you've never been

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>never been around the bedroom at all. That's what I'm

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 1>sitting there when you were saying, I'm like, wow, so yeah,

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>so how much I don't know I'm going on ledge

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>does it get lonely kind of race him? Yeah, you

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of have like the thick skin, like

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>because somebody will say, like in racing, I feel like

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>what happens a lot is like you don't talk to people, right,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 1>So another driver, if he's mad at you, he might

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>say it to the media, you know, or he might say,

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like in his post race conference like this, y'allo beef.

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Y'all will beef in a minute, that beef through the media,

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>but won't say nothing to each other. Like I know,

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>because I've seen the Hollers are like they're they're close

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to each other. It ain't like he over you. Ain't

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that y'all? Not a Disney World where his his his

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>trailers parked by small world and then he's over there

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>in a whole different part that they're pretty close together,

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Like well, what do you do with like, uh, to leave?

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I actually mean to leave at that moment, we weren't

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>seeing that. But I mean I've when he was with

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Denver, when he was with Denver. I UM.

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in Philadelphia covering UM A game, and then

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I wait stayed after the game. I was watched the

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>game and my summer was with me, one of my boys,

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and so to leave actually came up, took a picture,

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:36.439
<v Speaker 1>not actually have the picture with Boston and said, which

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was very surprising to leave, said, I hated to go

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.919
<v Speaker 1>against your dad because he always made me work hard

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and it was really cool, and I was shocked that

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 1>he was He said that to my boy. So, you know,

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>there are some guys that we just don't mess with,

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Like there's some guys, some players that you're like, I

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>just don't see out eye. There's some guys that I

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>would see them right now. They could be on fire

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and now drive by. But then there's some guys where

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe it was just a little bit of

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>rambunctiousness in the in the game, but you're they're mature

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're mature sometimes to talk it out. But then

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>there's some other guys where you're better off talking to

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a wall than communicating with them because they have a

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>death set their mind. But but I think the difference

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>with your sport and ours, in football or any other ones,

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I think tennis and golf is pretty similar like that

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>just so independent. I think it's um. I think that's

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a good thing because it teaches you a little bit

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of mental toughness. But I also think it's kind of

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a it's cold. Yes, Like you go by, like when

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I was a rookie, you'd walk by, um, an older driver, right,

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and you'd be like not you know, You're like not

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>sure what to do, and he just just looks straight

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>through you. So it's like you're kind of like, alright,

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>what did and how did that play into your psyche?

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 1>That same driver that, let's be honest, you grew up

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>here in Charlotte. You've already told us since the age

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>of six you fell in love with with with racing.

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You weren't born, you weren't born from a racing family.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 1>So you see this legendary driver we're got gonna name

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>many names were not about that, and he looks through you. Yep,

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that must have some type of intimidation factor that the

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>next time you see that dude, he's right next to

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you on the track on the fourth turn, what do

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you do? Do you bump them? Do you hit him

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a little? Oh? You're not going ignore me now playing. Yeah, yeah,

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a it's a respect thing, like it

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.439
<v Speaker 1>takes it. Gosh, you know, I see a rookie driver coming,

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm in my third year now, if a rookie

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>driver comes in, I kind of do. I learned from

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the veteran guy. So so so you're not gonna change

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. So you're not gonna change anything. You're

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>just gonna kind of go. So you're not really gonna

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>do what you're supposed to do. You're not gonna do

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>what you have what you call to do because you

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>have to you I would say you would have done

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Shut up. So like there's a we're

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>really good friends, so we just get to tell how

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>we feel. Shut up. Like I see you on the

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.439
<v Speaker 1>fifth term, sucker. I mean it's true because like there's

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>this there's this like code right that we were talking about,

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 1>and like that guy has to earn it from you,

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.439
<v Speaker 1>so like he has to pass you a couple of times,

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>he has to race you a certain way over the

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>course of a few races before you're like all right, okay,

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Like but each time that guy passed you the first

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, you're like, I'm like, I'm going right

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>back after you. Like, it's not gonna make it easy

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>for you to because it just wasn't easy for me

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 1>to go up against a forty year old guy, you know,

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 1>and you don't like four year olds. He took it,

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he took offense today, nothing to get some nothing to

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get forty at some point. How long do

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to race? Gosh? I mean as long as

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I can, as long as until I until my reaction

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>time and my senses are not strong enough to do it.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 1>All six? Yeah, all six. I think it's about that time,

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So we'll take a little breathing. Good do it, Good,

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>do it. Let's getting down to do it. Good? Hey, Gerard,

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>why did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing?

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I got it from cut to a podcast

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>dot com where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 1>our guys at seven or four shot. But yeah, you

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:59.399
<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. You're racing a lot.

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>You grew up here in Charlotte, North Carolina. You've been

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:08.280
<v Speaker 1>around some great racers. You talk about Jimmy um Dale.

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Our heart lives here. Kyle Bush. A lot of these

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:15.919
<v Speaker 1>other drivers live here in North Carolina, ain't Heck, you

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>were probably in the same subdivision or neighborhood with some

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of these racers. How do you how do you stay grounded?

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>And where does your faith for you kind of where

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>does that play in in your in Nascar? Because for

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>me as a believer, at times I have struggled with

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the the physicality of ballum, the the the macho demeanor,

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>some of the language that is used, and I felt

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>on it as well as how does you how do

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you stay grounding in your faith and in in not

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>allowing your success to make you feel like you've done

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>this all by yourself. Yeah, I mean that's a great

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 1>like question, I think honestly, for me, like my faith

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 1>probably grew the most once I got out on my

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>own in racing, which was really like once I was

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.399
<v Speaker 1>out in the car on my own, trying to make

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>it a Nascar like, it really becomes about, you know,

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>your faith, because you know, there's a lot of things

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that go on inside of the car that you can't

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:30.240
<v Speaker 1>always control, so it's like you have to like somehow

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>let that stuff go. Like I still find myself it's

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 1>a tough balance because you know, I probably are not

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the perfect Christian by any means. Like when I'm in

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the car, I might cut the word on the radio

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>or might say whatever, but it's like to me, that's

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the heat of battle. But like when I'm outside the car,

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I think about the blessings that I have to be

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in in that opportunity and try to make the most

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.719
<v Speaker 1>of that, and you know, just try to understand that

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>it it's bigger than just you know, that one race

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>or like there's got to be a plan that is

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in place for me to kind of try to live

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>up to and try to achieve. So well, this part

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:07.879
<v Speaker 1>of our podcast, who had to call it a deeper

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>three and these next three questions just allow us to

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>take maybe a little bit of a deeper dive into

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you as a person beyond your jersey or beyond your car,

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>or for your profession again maybe even your wensy. Yeah,

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>but but first question, Smithy has up on deck and

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll enter the deep three. Cool, how long do you

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:36.359
<v Speaker 1>plan on racing? Realistically the next ten years? I'd say,

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I hope, so that's not bad, and keep racing then

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and then you're just gonna disappear. I don't know. I'd

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like to race some other stuff like maybe some Indy

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 1>car um, maybe some like dirt stuff like dirt racing

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>like uh rally cars. I don't know, just whatever I

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>could get my hands on. Honest, I'd like to do something.

0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not full, maybe not thirty eight races like we

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.240
<v Speaker 1>do every year, but race, you know, fifteen to twenty

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>times a year. It would be great. You've mentioned a

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>couple of people that you know, whether it's Dale or

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Kyle or people at Hendrick. You've had people

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.720
<v Speaker 1>on the track who have been able to impact your life.

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Who are who are? Who's that one person or maybe

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a couple of people that you have off the track

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that invest in you that maybe you looked to as

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.760
<v Speaker 1>a mentor. Uh So there's two guys. There's uh Dennis,

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy Dennis Lambert, who he was my original crew

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>chief so it's kind of like my original coach when

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I first started racing, and he kind of taught me

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the ropes and he was pretty hard on me. So

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>he you know, kind of he was always honest, like

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 1>he was never gonna like look at a race and

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh he did great. You know when he didn't,

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so he's good. I always always text him and we

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 1>go out to eat and stuff. And then this other guy,

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Max Pappis, who's an Italian guy, and he's, uh, he

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>used to race Formula one and like IndyCar and all that, um,

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 1>all those kinds of races, so he kind of understands

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the industry. So I to him with any questions I

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>have about, you know, what he sees in the sport,

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>what he sees me doing versus maybe where I could be.

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 1>So just kind of those two guys, i'd say, final question,

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 1>M I like this question because it's a different one.

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 1>You can answer however you want. What would you say

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>your relationship where racing is relationship? Um, it's really pretty

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 1>consuming for me, Like I'm it's probably most everything that

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I think about every day, Like there's not much else

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that I would want to do. Like I feel like

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>if I went a week without doing it, I'd be

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like I start to go insane. So I think it's

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of I have a girlfriend, I have obviously a

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 1>great family, but it's definitely like I'd say eight or

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of my life is probably around racing. So

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:02.720
<v Speaker 1>so you are fully committed at this point in racing. Yeah,

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's random based off your m answer, so

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>everything else is back seat somewhat at this point. Yeah.

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Like it it definitely like if I'm not doing what

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to do in racing that I'm not happy.

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just kind of how at this point twenty

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>years old, Like that's what I that's what I want

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to do. He's kind of what I want to achieve. Yeah,

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 1>but you have all the chips in racing, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>should it be that way? I don't know. Was it

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>like that for you in football? That's a great question.

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 1>When you got too deep forward, you just completely messed

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<v Speaker 1>up our segment, will you? I think at different times

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<v Speaker 1>it has been and and then there's times where I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know parts of it just because you were

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>checked out. I think it's just that I really you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't raced enough yet. Right, You've had three years of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, three years of success, but then there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be you can have three years of success and then

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that rough year or that rough patch can just do

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<v Speaker 1>a number on you, right and and and that's where

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I started to realize and I started to come to

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the conclusion of I love ball. I lived it, breathe it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were times that I lined up and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I could do without this. Sometimes what was

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<v Speaker 1>it before? After your three year? More? It just it varied.

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<v Speaker 1>It really depends on it. Like the time thing. No,

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a time that it was just sometimes the

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:53.080
<v Speaker 1>circumstances or it'd be how you know when they say

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<v Speaker 1>it arrange the poors? Just how bad is pooring? Right?

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Just like when you it's like that two hour you

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>had that our delay. It messes up everything, and then

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 1>that messes it up and then it's a chain reaction

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and then next thing, you know, let's go and then

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>now you all now you're all fickled and intense, and

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like, man, I can go home right now because

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:20.879
<v Speaker 1>we are perfectionists, right, So yeah, now that's good to know. Yeah,

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. I was curious about that. Like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's some days, man I would I wanted to

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>do it till I was fifty, And then there's other days, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this. You don't want to, Dane,

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't even want I don't even want this past

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<v Speaker 1>all right, were you sitting on the sideline and you

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:43.440
<v Speaker 1>go and that sucks, right, So yeah, that's cool. Yeah, Well,

0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I just want to tell you, man, I really appreciate

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you taking the time, thanks for having me watch you.

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 1>If you were believer, but after talking with William, I

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>just want to ask you, like, are you a believer?

0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>And that's funny? What do you mean believe? Are you

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 1>saying like it's a cult. I learned a great deal

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 1>of information. I got to ask some questions that I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of felt dumb asking a regular NASCAR guy that

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the podcast, because you don't want to be

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 1>like Steve's over there asking the dumb people questions, right,

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>So I felt well comfortable. I think he was really

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<v Speaker 1>shocked at some of the questions we did ask and

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<v Speaker 1>how we asked. I really love how you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the culture being lonely, being on the road, um, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how the veterans cheat the young guys, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also how as a young guy he said, hey, when

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<v Speaker 1>the other young guys come on due do those guys

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the same way. It was really good to hear his

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<v Speaker 1>perspective and the ins and out of NASCAR outside of

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the dudes constantly just hitting the left in banking, you know,

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>doing all of the uh, the glitz and the glamor

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of Nascar and understanding the nuts and bolts of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really cool. Yeah, I agree when he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the drivers maybe not always coming together and not

0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>having this you gotta look on the outside and like,

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, they all those guys have to talk to

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 1>each other. They operate in silos. Every car is different,

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>every racing team is different. So he definitely gave us

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of insight into disbanded some of those things

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that you just kind of think all those guys know together,

0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 1>all those guys are cool. No, not necessarily, you know what,

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to ask him, what's that? Man? You know

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>one thing I noticed in Nascar there's two different people

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you either a villain as a NASCAR driver or a hero.

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>That's it's like w W, but except they ain't acting

0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and they really they really got beef. They really got beef.

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>But um, I think he's young enough. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>question is gonna be he's the young hero right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually when he become a villain, I don't know, we'll see,

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 1>time will tell, but you gotta watch him. No, I

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>ain't got a villain bone. His body cut to It

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