WEBVTT - TOM's Talks | Catching Up With Mike Breen and Lisa Salters

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers Podcast network

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<v Speaker 1>search seventy Sixers Podcast wherever you get your pods. This

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<v Speaker 1>week's edition of Tom's Talks is a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>from the other episodes. It centers around not a singular

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<v Speaker 1>athlete or personality, but at trio of the game's top

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<v Speaker 1>notch broadcasters, a sports smorgasport, a basketball buffet, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Sixers getting a number of games on ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>of Blade, I caught up with Mike Breen and Lisasaulters,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the recent Sixers Suns matchup, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to talk to Suns broadcaster Tim Kempton. I'm Tom McGinnis.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I missed most about the normal

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<v Speaker 1>routine of covering an NBA game is the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>chat with the different principles around the court, what I

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<v Speaker 1>call basketball's version of baseballs around the batting cage, talking

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<v Speaker 1>with reporters, coaches, scouts and players on the perimeter of

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<v Speaker 1>the playing surface. We haven't been able to do that

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<v Speaker 1>because of the health and safety protocols put in place

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<v Speaker 1>in arenas around the NBA this season. Mike Breen is

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<v Speaker 1>a long time lead voice of the Knicks on MSG

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<v Speaker 1>and the lead voice for ABC ESPN's package with the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's our conversation that originally aired as a halftime interview. Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I know when you got here a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a luster off the matchup tonight with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>NETS players not playing Your thoughts there, well, Mac, we

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<v Speaker 1>seem to have that every every time we do a game. It's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just such an unpredictable season. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's one key player out. You know, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad for the fans, you feel bad for the coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've also seen in this kind of situation where

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<v Speaker 1>a team rallies, it's an opportunity for other guys and

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<v Speaker 1>they play with such hunger that sometimes they go out

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<v Speaker 1>and win. So we're hoping for still a great game.

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<v Speaker 1>They had the Nets a little hiccup in your game

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<v Speaker 1>the other night against the Lakers, but you've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>with Harden, with your Knicks games and whatnot. It's incredible

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<v Speaker 1>the talent and the ability to score that they have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if they're healthy and they get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to play together, it's incredible. Their record. We're only

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<v Speaker 1>having the I've been played together seven games is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they're certainly one of the favorites to

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<v Speaker 1>win it all if they're healthy. But that's that's with everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, say the same thing. If Joel Embiat is

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<v Speaker 1>healthy the way he's playing, the Sixers are title contender.

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<v Speaker 1>You say the same thing for Milwaukee. Be honest, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Coopo's out now with a knee injury. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they're healthy, they could get to the NBA Finals. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna make for an exciting playoffs. You just hope

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<v Speaker 1>that it's exciting because everybody's healthy and everybody's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>on the same level and we're going to have great games.

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<v Speaker 1>You like what the Sixers dead bringing in Curry and

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<v Speaker 1>Green with Joel and how they're playing under Doc Rivers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Curry was the perfect fit. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Green, he takes grief sometimes because he looks there's

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<v Speaker 1>some knights out there. He'll look like he's he's older,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's one of the smartest players I've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>all my years doing this. He can still hit big shots.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got all the playoff experience. So I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were nice additions. I think George Hill, hopefully he'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back soon. I think he's going to be an excellent addition,

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<v Speaker 1>make a huge difference in that second unit. Lastly, but

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Green, like, you're right, Oh my god, he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>scared Bote me as port freeze. And he's the best player.

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<v Speaker 1>You got right? I mean wait, and he still every

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<v Speaker 1>single night he contributes defensively. You know again, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the athletic player that he never was a great athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not as quick as he used to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but he makes up for it and savvy. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a coincidence that he's been a part of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of winning teams and championship teams. You're traveling a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, You're doing some remote. It's been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a hybrid. How's it going. You're like me, Mack

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<v Speaker 1>and that we love the fans. I want the fans

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<v Speaker 1>to be back. We want to be in the arena.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a little bit of a challenge for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as we're working, it's great. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait for tonight. I think this is of all

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<v Speaker 1>the games I've done on site, this is the most

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<v Speaker 1>amount of fans that are going to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>building of the game I've called. So I'm thrilled, especially

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from the Philly fans drive away from home.

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<v Speaker 1>Hyeah exactly. Thank you might appreciate it, okay, mac. Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>Salters has been with ESPN for over two decades. Among

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<v Speaker 1>other roles with the network, she's the lead sideline reporter

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<v Speaker 1>of ESPN's coverage of the NBA on ABC. Salters grew

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<v Speaker 1>up just outside Philadelphia and played point guard at Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State in college. I spoke to Lisa prior to the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six ers game with the Warriors, and Lisa, all

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<v Speaker 1>of our jobs have been affected by the red zone,

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<v Speaker 1>the yellow zone, and access. But boy, for a sideline report,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine yours is as effected as anybody says

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<v Speaker 1>that right, tell me about it. Yeah, it's hard. It's

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<v Speaker 1>tough to, you know, talk to players and interact with

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<v Speaker 1>players when you're not allowed to go around the players.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, there are lots of things that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just used to. Oh, I need to hit him

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<v Speaker 1>up about such and such, And I know I can

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<v Speaker 1>just hit him up pregame, after his workout, before his

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<v Speaker 1>workout and just ask him quickly about something, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that anymore. So I feel like I'm constantly bugging.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, guys like Patrick Leza and Raymond Ritter for

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors, PR guys who have been great, the p

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<v Speaker 1>R men and women, they've just been great this season.

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<v Speaker 1>With the NFL and with the NBA. Everyone is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taking it, you know, taking that extra load on,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the PR guys are giving us whatever

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we need in the players as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we ask usually we'll go to a facility to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a player, but we can't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've asked for several players to just give me

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<v Speaker 1>a call on the phone, maybe if the PR guy

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<v Speaker 1>can call and just hand them the phone, but many

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<v Speaker 1>guys they want to leave as soon as they they're

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<v Speaker 1>done with practice and before they might call you on

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<v Speaker 1>their way home, they might not since they're doing it

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<v Speaker 1>on their own. I haven't had one guy not call.

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<v Speaker 1>They all have just been so responsive, knowing that our

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<v Speaker 1>access to them who's been restricted, and they've made themselves

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<v Speaker 1>available by calling on their own time and letting me

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<v Speaker 1>do my job, which I couldn't be more appreciative of

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. So we visit about an hour before the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're kind of already pre like working your hits right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're stories, your anecdote and something might come up

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<v Speaker 1>during the game. But tell us a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>that part of your storytelling, you know, just like you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I read the papers and go online and get

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<v Speaker 1>ideas from the PR guys and what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there, and then just try to do as

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<v Speaker 1>much research reporting on my own as I can. Tonight

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<v Speaker 1>a really cool stories that Steph Curry has a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of special guests coming to the game. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to just rely on what I read in the newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>so I made it a point of getting the information

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<v Speaker 1>his guest information and calling the guy to find out

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about him and about the story. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that your listeners can look out for if

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<v Speaker 1>they happen to be watching the game. But it's that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it has not changed during COVID, the preparation,

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<v Speaker 1>the work. I still am doing the same work. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just doing it a little bit differently, if that makes

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<v Speaker 1>any sense. So you're an athlete, but you you know

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<v Speaker 1>your salad days if you will were in Baltimore, but

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<v Speaker 1>you covered you were in the Middle East covering a war.

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<v Speaker 1>I started in news, so I've only been doing sports

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand when I went to UH when I

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<v Speaker 1>left ABC News and switched over to ESPN, So the

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<v Speaker 1>first twelve years of my career I did hard news.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been. Yeah, I've been a lot of places

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<v Speaker 1>that most sports journalists have not been, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>to some places even with the ESPN that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sports journalists would not you wouldn't typically think of

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<v Speaker 1>us going to, and you know, being in the war zone,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of those places. ESPN thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>important to send UH some of us over there to

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<v Speaker 1>support the troops and to actually do Sports Center from

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, and it was uplifting for the troops,

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<v Speaker 1>it was uplifting for us, for the few of us

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<v Speaker 1>that got to go over there. So yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all over the place, but it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>great ride. So preparing your pregame hits with loud music

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<v Speaker 1>compared to a posiblet GUD missile over in ten degrees,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like actually one hundred and ten hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred and twenty degrees over in Kuwait when I

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<v Speaker 1>was there, So yeah, not a lot rattles me. The

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<v Speaker 1>music is pretty loud in here, but but not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot rattles me. Last thought, and we probably touched on

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<v Speaker 1>this in years past, but growing up in King of

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<v Speaker 1>Prussia in the eighties, I would assume you're a sixerst fan.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the glory of years with Doctor j Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>Mo Cheeks, Bobby Jones, Doug Collins. I loved. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>a world be free, like I loved all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, doc Rus was just saying pregame because

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<v Speaker 1>he saw me hit the bell on Friday nine. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can know you from you were from King of

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<v Speaker 1>Prussia and what is King of Prussia? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever been to the mall? And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I haven't. But he said that

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<v Speaker 1>Steph and Seth had told him like, oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get out, you gotta get out to the mall.

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<v Speaker 1>So King of Prussia claimed to fame. I worked at

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<v Speaker 1>the mall when I was a teenager, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>found memories of the of the mall of King of Prussia. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, we'll let you get back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate it, all right, thanks for having me. Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Kempton is a native New Yorker. He played college basketball

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<v Speaker 1>at Notre Dame and forged a fourteen year professional career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been a fixture with the Phoenix Suns radio broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the recent matchup with the Sons, I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to him about the incredible season the Sons are experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>and the impact of Sons guard Chris Paul. Well, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just talk about the Sons like from afar and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are really good, but a little

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<v Speaker 1>surprise that they've taken off the way they have. But

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<v Speaker 1>certainly I would imagine Chris Paul has a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>do with that, and Monnie Williams and book is playing

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<v Speaker 1>great as well. Yeah, you really almost have to put

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<v Speaker 1>it all on Chris Paul. And you know, you never

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<v Speaker 1>want to give one guy too much credit. This team

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<v Speaker 1>did to wait to know in the bubble without Chris

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<v Speaker 1>is that next level consistently night in and night out

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<v Speaker 1>in the FBA. I think it's where Chris Paul has

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<v Speaker 1>made a huge different Obviously, you know, a short season

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<v Speaker 1>in the bubble um, you know, some teams were arresting

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<v Speaker 1>their players in the playoffs, but the Suns didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But but again, Tom, it's just that night end, night out,

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<v Speaker 1>not losing back to back situations, sits back in January,

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<v Speaker 1>the overall consistency to play on the both ends of

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<v Speaker 1>the court, and then just the growth of some other

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<v Speaker 1>players with Chris Paul's here, and that would be most

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<v Speaker 1>notably would be DeAndre Ayton. Although he's made strides himself,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Chris Paul b here has helped him immensely

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So you've seen the Sixers and Phoenix won

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<v Speaker 1>the game out there, But what do you make of

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Rivers and what he's done here in Philadelphia, the

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons and Harrison and the Bible commentor to in the

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<v Speaker 1>East and potentially get to the NBA Finals. Yeah, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, any any time you add something that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have, and that's no no, you know, this credit

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody that with Doc Rivers being in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the trenches with guys in difficult situations before. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about experience, and I think having been there

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<v Speaker 1>and we always talked about those young teams that that's

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<v Speaker 1>never really all those supremely talented never win in the

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<v Speaker 1>first or second go round. They have to go through

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<v Speaker 1>the riggers of a playoff series of a playoff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two or three series to gain that experience to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what is necessary. So docs Doc Rivers brings that coaching

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<v Speaker 1>experience and expectation and just the way he used the

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<v Speaker 1>players that he has there a little bit differently uh

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<v Speaker 1>than uh than Coach Brown before him. So it's all

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<v Speaker 1>those little things. You can't really point to one huge

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<v Speaker 1>thing because basketball, at the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>is still the same. And it may be a quirked

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<v Speaker 1>and taking the guy off the ball a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>where he's s ten shots a game, but ten shots

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<v Speaker 1>come in a different different scenario. You know. It may

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<v Speaker 1>be positioning as to where the player gets the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just those little quirks. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have Joel Mby, you have you have Ben Simmons, who

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<v Speaker 1>supremely talented. But and I don't know if we really

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<v Speaker 1>know what Ben Simmons is in the league yet. At

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<v Speaker 1>times he looks phenomenal at the point guard position because

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<v Speaker 1>of his size and his ball handling ability. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>looks good at other positions as well. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias Harris is another guy that that that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is supremely talented, one of those guys that can score

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in just another ad and dimension. When you

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<v Speaker 1>get into a playoff series that you have to you

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<v Speaker 1>have to coach against, you have to, you know, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>bring him up in the scouting report every night. Tim

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<v Speaker 1>you've played the position of center both that Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>and in the NBA and a little bit in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to go back to and beat a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerry the other night was saying that he's like

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<v Speaker 1>an old school center from the eighties with all of

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<v Speaker 1>those skills and then he has today's euro step and

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<v Speaker 1>one leggage shot and the step backs that all the

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<v Speaker 1>modern players have and to have that beat in that

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<v Speaker 1>size of a body. And there are some great centers

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<v Speaker 1>Yokich And as you say you're young player eighton, people

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<v Speaker 1>say the big man is dead, but not when they

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<v Speaker 1>come with this skill set. Trying to talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about in beads, Yeah that's what so so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just bed morizing when you're watching it's sheer physical size. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it, and we only get to see him

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<v Speaker 1>twice a year. So I see highlights thereout the year,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you stand next to DeAndre, the size different.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I mean, it's it's it's glaring. It's glaring. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the physical size of Joel mb uh for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to you know, he goes down the

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<v Speaker 1>low posts and just overpowers people similar to what Shaquille

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<v Speaker 1>O'Neil did. He goes down and and has moves of

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<v Speaker 1>a Keimolajwa because of his quickness and his footwork. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you add those to mentions where he goes

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<v Speaker 1>down to you know, to the literally the three point line,

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<v Speaker 1>knockdown three point Jepson has, euro Step has the ball

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<v Speaker 1>handling ability. It's just a continued progress of the skill

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<v Speaker 1>level of the MBA players today. And now we're saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's at the center position and everybody every night, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't mb talent wise, it is probably the most talented

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<v Speaker 1>player for everything that we've just talked about his size

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<v Speaker 1>and his skill level. Don't just size at his skill

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<v Speaker 1>level but doesn't have the quickness, does an athleticism of that, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does. I mean, and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>separation point with Joe every night, and that's what's so

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<v Speaker 1>special about him? He really is amazing fun to watch

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<v Speaker 1>because he does have that old ability, but he has

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<v Speaker 1>to bother say skills as well. If you like what

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