Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you,
Speaker 2: and this show is going to deal a lot with
Speaker 2: the insanity of the woke movement. A university program is
Speaker 2: now linking Christians and Republicans to Nazis, and your tax
Speaker 2: dollars are helping pay for that. Plus a very interesting debate.
Speaker 2: It coverages and a scene that has now been deleted
Speaker 2: that we're supposed to all say we're sorry it was
Speaker 2: ever made.
Speaker 1: Senator, great to be.
Speaker 2: With you, and I want to first talk about this
Speaker 2: university program. It's costing American taxpayer dollars. A grant through
Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security is now linking quote Christians
Speaker 2: and Republicans to Nazis.
Speaker 3: Well, sadly, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: The Department of Homeland Security has a program called the
Speaker 4: Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention Grant Program, which gives funds
Speaker 4: to quote establish or enhance capabilities to prevent targeted violence
Speaker 4: and terrorism. So you might think, Okay, this is going
Speaker 4: after al Qaeda, this is going after Jihadis, this is
Speaker 4: going after you know, maybe it's going after klansmen, maybe
Speaker 4: it's going after Antifa, it's going after people who engage
Speaker 4: in acts of violence and terrorism.
Speaker 3: Well, you would be wrong.
Speaker 4: The Biden administration is awarded eighty grants through this program,
Speaker 4: totally just under forty million dollars. The lowest grant was
Speaker 4: for eighty five thousand dollars, the highest was just over
Speaker 4: one point one million, and one of the grantees who
Speaker 4: got three hundred and fifty two thoy one hundred and
Speaker 4: nine dollars was Prevents Ohio program to quote draw on
Speaker 4: the expertise of the University of Dayton faculty to fight
Speaker 4: domestic violence, extremism, and hate movements, and the university's grant
Speaker 4: application linked to a controversial Dayton conference where an academic
Speaker 4: researcher presented a chart that is entitled the Pyramid of
Speaker 4: far right Radicalizations. Now, what are the organizations and movements
Speaker 4: displayed on the pyramid?
Speaker 3: One is the Republican.
Speaker 4: Party, another the Heritage Foundation, another the American Conservative Union,
Speaker 4: another Fox News, another Breitbart News, another the National Rifle Association,
Speaker 4: another Praeger University, another the Tea Party Patriots, another the
Speaker 4: Make America Great Again movement, another the pro police Blue
Speaker 4: Lives Matter movement, and another the Christian Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: All of those right of center, very mainstream organizations. What
Speaker 4: does the pyramid link them to? Hate groups like the Base,
Speaker 4: which is a neo Nazi paramilitary group, and the Daily Stormer,
Speaker 4: which is a pro Nazi publication.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: This The application from the University of Dayton linked to
Speaker 4: a video of the conference, describing it as showing the
Speaker 4: university's work quote to assess regional needs and capacities for
Speaker 4: violent extremism prevention. One of the speakers at the conference,
Speaker 4: a research at the University of Cincinnati called Michael low Adenthal,
Speaker 4: presented the Pyramid of far right radicalization, said it was
Speaker 4: an accurate description of the modern far right. And if
Speaker 4: you look at this particular individual, he is an extreme individual.
Speaker 4: If you look at his background, this lecturer Loadenthal, who
Speaker 4: at the time described himself as a medical worker who
Speaker 4: provided abortion services, So he's an abortion provider. He's frequently
Speaker 4: retweeted Antifa counts and defends left wing violence on social media.
Speaker 4: That's one of the guys presenting. So who else is
Speaker 4: presenting at this organization. Well, there are other extremists, such
Speaker 4: as a fellow named Alexander Hinton. He is a professor
Speaker 4: at Rutgers University who specializes in genocide, and at the
Speaker 4: conference he compared the Trump administration to the Khmer Rouge.
Speaker 4: The Commer Rouge for pole Pot killed an estimated one
Speaker 4: and a half million to two million people in Cambodia.
Speaker 4: The last I checked the Trump administration didn't have death camps,
Speaker 4: and the last I checked the left actually likes Communist
Speaker 4: death camps. But another speaker, a woman named Nicole Wittersheim,
Speaker 4: Deputy Washington director for Human Rights Watch, compared Florida Governor
Speaker 4: Ronda Santis proposing a volunteer civilian military force to assist
Speaker 4: the National Guard and emergencies such as hurricanes to the
Speaker 4: Holocaust that the Nazis carried.
Speaker 3: Out in World War Two.
Speaker 5: These are.
Speaker 4: The radicals who are being funded by the Joe Biden
Speaker 4: Department of Homeland.
Speaker 2: Security now Senator to be queer for everyone that's listening,
Speaker 2: if a private group wants to do this, there's many
Speaker 2: private groups to do this all the time.
Speaker 1: That's one thing.
Speaker 2: It's completely different when you're taking federal dollars, tax dollars
Speaker 2: that are now going to this type of hateful propaganda
Speaker 2: and advocating for things that are just clearly not true.
Speaker 2: How are they getting away with this.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so their defense is they say, actually, the
Speaker 4: seminar with all these radical speakers, that seminar itself was
Speaker 4: not funded by the.
Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 4: Instead, the organization that put on the seminar got funds
Speaker 4: later from DHS and pointed to the seminar as an
Speaker 4: example of the great work they do. And the Biden
Speaker 4: DHS said, oh, that sounds great to us, and was
Speaker 4: happy to spend your and my tax dollars supporting a
Speaker 4: group that apparently sees no difference between the RNC, between
Speaker 4: the Heritage Foundation, between Fox News and Nazis, an organization
Speaker 4: that sees no difference between genocidal, murderous communist and the
Speaker 4: Kamer Rouge, and the Trump administration. That is, it's the
Speaker 4: latest example of the Biden administration being more than happy
Speaker 4: to weaponize the federal government, to use the powers of
Speaker 4: the federal government to target you, to pay people who
Speaker 4: you you. I'm willing to bet that a fair number
Speaker 4: of the listeners of this pot and by the way,
Speaker 4: I got to say that I'm a little disappointed that
Speaker 4: they listed the NRA and Fox News and the RNC,
Speaker 4: and apparently verdict didn't make the list. I mean, heck,
Speaker 4: I actually feel if they're listing what they think is
Speaker 4: evil in the world, we got to work a little
Speaker 4: bit harder because because we haven't apparently reached the level
Speaker 4: of evil that these lunatics ascribed to places like but Breitbart.
Speaker 2: Well, it's because they haven't officially named you as are
Speaker 2: verdict as a terrorist group, right. I mean, that's how
Speaker 2: you hide these money, these dollars. The Biden administration doing
Speaker 2: out these tax dollars to quote anti terrorism grant initiatives,
Speaker 2: And that's part of how by the way they disguise it,
Speaker 2: they say, well, who would be against giving tax dollars
Speaker 2: to anti terrorism grant initiatives? To a university program that
Speaker 2: is doing that, That's how you justify And I think
Speaker 2: there's so how many people do you just assume if
Speaker 2: you name it something like that, right, we're gonna give
Speaker 2: a lot of tax dollars to anti terrorism grant initiative.
Speaker 2: Most Americans if you heard that, would say, well, of
Speaker 2: course I'm in favor of that. Of course I'm in
Speaker 2: favor of using our tax dollars for anti terrorism initiatives.
Speaker 2: That is not what they're doing here at this university program.
Speaker 3: It is not.
Speaker 4: They are engaged in propaganda, and the propaganda is saying
Speaker 4: that anyone right of center is a terrorist, anyone right
Speaker 4: of center as a Nazi, anyone right of center as
Speaker 4: a klansman. It is the vicious lie that the radical
Speaker 4: left pushes often, but it is not. Look if they
Speaker 4: want to say that, that's fine, but why is the
Speaker 4: government funding this. They're funding it because they want to
Speaker 4: give fuel to the fire attacking those they view as
Speaker 4: enemies of the regime.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the money because the next
Speaker 2: question people are going to ask the is all right, well,
Speaker 2: how much money are we talking about here that's being
Speaker 2: abused in this way?
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Speaker 2: about the financial side of this. The Biden administration we
Speaker 2: now know is awarded these eighty grants through this group.
Speaker 2: This TVTP totally just under forty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The lowest grant we've been told was Forrady five thousand,
Speaker 2: the highest was for over one point one million, and
Speaker 2: the median was about four hundred and forty two thousand dollars. Now,
Speaker 2: these grant recipients are quote prohibited from engaging in viewpoint
Speaker 2: discrimination according to DHS. Well, if that is the standard,
Speaker 2: then I think it's pretty obvious that they are in
Speaker 2: violation of that quote standard right away.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 3: Look, I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: This particular organization prevents Ohio program got three hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty two thousand dollars, and given the history of this program,
Speaker 4: given that they're pointing to this radical conference as evidence
Speaker 4: of the kind of work they do, I have no
Speaker 4: confidence that any acts of violence will be prevented by
Speaker 4: this organization, that any terrorism will be prevented by this organization.
Speaker 4: In fact, I have no confidence that this group will
Speaker 4: even admit who is in fact a terrorist organization. If
Speaker 4: you're identifying the Heritage Foundation, listen, you and I have
Speaker 4: both been to Heritage Heritage as a building a couple
Speaker 4: of blocks from Capitol Hill. It's this big building with
Speaker 4: lots of scholarly academic folks, typically sitting in cubicles with
Speaker 4: very thick glasses, writing very dense white papers, and about
Speaker 4: the only act of violence you might get from a
Speaker 4: Heritage Foundation scholars. You might get a paper cut from
Speaker 4: picking up their white paper, but they are not fire
Speaker 4: bombing cities, they are not looting stores, they are not
Speaker 4: blowing places up. They're not doing the sorts of things
Speaker 4: actually that the radical left that Antifa is doing. But
Speaker 4: of course this organization would never target Antifa because look,
Speaker 4: we've talked about this quite a lot that the distressing
Speaker 4: reality is this bided administration, I believe, is perfectly fine
Speaker 4: with political violence if it serves their partisan interest. It's
Speaker 4: why to this date, Merrick Garland has not prosecuted a
Speaker 4: single individual breaking the law by protesting in front of
Speaker 4: Supreme Court justices homes night after night after night, because
Speaker 4: he supports that lawlessness, and the administration doesn't care if
Speaker 4: it's directly contrary.
Speaker 3: To federal law.
Speaker 2: Now that we know how this money is being spent, center,
Speaker 2: is there any way that the House could look into
Speaker 2: this spending and hold Department of Home and Security accountable
Speaker 2: for quarly abusing these funds.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I hope the House holds hearings on this.
Speaker 4: The Senate should as well, but Senate Democrats don't care,
Speaker 4: so that they're not going to old hearings on this,
Speaker 4: because they're perfectly fine with the money being spent in
Speaker 4: this way. But the House ought to have hearings on this,
Speaker 4: and I very much hope they do.
Speaker 2: I want to move on to another issue that actually
Speaker 2: is connected to this woke agenda even more. You are
Speaker 2: now calling out debate coaches who actually have banned students
Speaker 2: from saying the words illegal immigrants. One coach told students
Speaker 2: that if they use the term illegal quote unquote to
Speaker 2: describe an immigrant, then he will give you, quote a
Speaker 2: stern lecture and doc points from your team. Debate is something,
Speaker 2: by the way, that I did in high school.
Speaker 1: Loved it. You did it in high school.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm guessing, but I feel very confident you did.
Speaker 2: And you obviously did debate I'm sure in college and
Speaker 2: then mock trial and things like that. The idea that
Speaker 2: you can't have a real debate, and these coach are saying,
Speaker 2: we're going to force you into certain words terminology you
Speaker 2: want to talk about a freedom of speech problem.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, this is it.
Speaker 4: Well, I will say, Ben, that's actually a wager. You
Speaker 4: would have lost a lot it. Wow, I wanted you
Speaker 4: would have lost that. I wanted to do debate in
Speaker 4: high school. But I went to a little bit of
Speaker 4: school in Houston, Second Baptist High School, which you're well
Speaker 4: familiar with it. And at the time my graduating class
Speaker 4: was forty three and the school was too small, it
Speaker 4: didn't have a debate team. So I was, if there's
Speaker 4: anything geekier than a high school debater, it's a high
Speaker 4: school debater wanna be, which is what I was. And
Speaker 4: so yet, you know, I mean, I didn't get to
Speaker 4: hang around, you know, cool varsity tennis players like Ben Ferguson.
Speaker 4: But when I went to college, I managed to achieve
Speaker 4: my aspirations and I became a college debater. And I
Speaker 4: spent almost every weekend all four years at Princeton doing
Speaker 4: college debate and loved it and learned an enormous amount
Speaker 4: from it. And there's an article that came out just
Speaker 4: a week ago, and it's an article in the Free
Speaker 4: Press by an individual named James Fishback, and it's entitled
Speaker 4: it high school Debates.
Speaker 3: Debate is no.
Speaker 4: Longer allowed, and it talks about an amazing thing going
Speaker 4: on where there are now debate judges that are debating
Speaker 4: in that are judging college debate in NSDA, which is
Speaker 4: one of the college debate tournaments, not the one I
Speaker 4: competed on, but it's another one that's heavily on the
Speaker 4: West coast. And he goes through the profiles from a
Speaker 4: number of judges and what they described. So one judge
Speaker 4: is someone named Lilah Lavender who was National debate Champion
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen. And according to the bio of Lilah Lavender,
Speaker 4: quote before anything else, including being a debate judge, I'm
Speaker 4: a Marxist, Leninist, maoist. I cannot check the revolutionary proletarian
Speaker 4: science at the door. When I'm judging, I will no
Speaker 4: longer evaluate and thus never vote for rightist, capitalist, imperialist
Speaker 4: positions arguments. Examples of arguments of this nature are as follows.
Speaker 4: Fascism good capitalism, good imperialist war, good neoliberalism, good. Defenses
Speaker 4: of the US are otherwise bourgeois nationalism, zionism or normalizing
Speaker 4: Israel colonialism, good US white fascist policing good, etc. That
Speaker 4: is astonishing. By the way, there's another judge whose bio
Speaker 4: says some judge named Shubham Gupta, and his judge his
Speaker 4: bio reads, quote, if you are discussing immigrants in a
Speaker 4: round and describe the person as quote illegal, I will
Speaker 4: immediately stop the round, give you the loss with low speaks,
Speaker 4: low speaker points, give you a stern lecture, and then
Speaker 4: talk to your coach. I will not have you making
Speaker 4: the debate state space unsafe. Well, mister Gupta, let me
Speaker 4: tell you something. The word illegal alien is in federal law.
Speaker 4: It is United States law, and the fact that you
Speaker 4: are a little Marxist doesn't change reality. Another judge, Judge
Speaker 4: Christy Sharma, writes a list of quote things that will
Speaker 4: cause you to automatically lose. Number three is referring to
Speaker 4: immigrants as illegal. So I want you to think of this,
Speaker 4: this lavender person who describes themselves as a Marxist, Leninist, Maoist. Now,
Speaker 4: it is apparently the standard, at least with these judges
Speaker 4: in college debate that unless you argue for communism, you
Speaker 4: will lose. That's not debate, that is indoctrination, that is
Speaker 4: repeating Pravda. And I got to say, look, I'm someone
Speaker 4: who as a debater, I learned an enormous amount and
Speaker 4: by the way, I had to debate lots of positions
Speaker 4: I didn't agree with in many ways you learn more
Speaker 4: debating a proposition you disagree with, and you learn debating
Speaker 4: something you agree strongly with. I'll tell you one of
Speaker 4: my favorite stories. So, my debate partner in college was
Speaker 4: a guy named David Panton, and he was my college roommate,
Speaker 4: my law school roommate. Other than Heidi's my closest friend
Speaker 4: on planet Earth.
Speaker 3: You met David in fact.
Speaker 4: We played tennis and pickleball together. It's a great guy.
Speaker 3: David and I we were debate.
Speaker 4: Partners, and we got tired about in debate people whining
Speaker 4: and complaining about whatever case it was you ran, and
Speaker 4: they would complaining, oh, it's unfair, the case is a truism,
Speaker 4: it's tautology, and they'd spend the entire debate round whining
Speaker 4: that it was unfair to debate whatever it was that
Speaker 4: you were proposing. And so we came up with a
Speaker 4: way to avoid that. And what we would do at
Speaker 4: just about every single case where we were the affirmative,
Speaker 4: where we were presenting a case, is we'd give the
Speaker 4: opposing team the option of which side to take. So
Speaker 4: I'd stand up and present the initial speech of the
Speaker 4: debate round, and I'd say, you know, all right, let's
Speaker 4: take one of the issues that is apparently no longer allowed.
Speaker 4: Capitalism is the most effective economic system ever to exist
Speaker 4: on planet Earth. And I'd turn to the other side
Speaker 4: and say yes or no, which side do you take?
Speaker 4: And if they'd pick, all the whining disappeared from the
Speaker 4: round because once they picked, they couldn't complain gosh, it's
Speaker 4: unfair the side I picked, because you morons.
Speaker 1: Picked that side.
Speaker 4: And if they refused to pick, I'd typically flip a
Speaker 4: coin take one side. But even that eliminated the whining.
Speaker 4: I mentioned that because there was there was one round
Speaker 4: in particular, so senior year. Towards the end of senior year,
Speaker 4: David and nine competed at what was called a hybrid tournament. Now,
Speaker 4: hybrid tournament was you teamed up with a debater from
Speaker 4: another school, and the rules were that if you made
Speaker 4: a final tournament, if you made a final round in
Speaker 4: a tournament, you qualified.
Speaker 3: For the national tournament.
Speaker 4: And so David and I had both qualified for NATS
Speaker 4: at that point, we decided we'd go to hybrid. We'd
Speaker 4: go to the hybrid tournament and team up with other folks,
Speaker 4: and so I teamed up with a guy from University
Speaker 4: of Maryland, Baltimore County named Slash Kendig Slash. It was
Speaker 4: a fantastic debater. He had long hair and a beard.
Speaker 4: He had a leather jacket with I think thirty seven
Speaker 4: razor blades on it. One he said, for every woman
Speaker 4: that had broken up with him and cut his heart, Slash.
Speaker 2: Against the debate, Right, that's the guy you don't want
Speaker 2: to go up in debating agains.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, he was like a you know, biker outlaw was
Speaker 4: the sort of image he portrayed, and I was a
Speaker 4: pretty buttoned up, you know, Princeton guy. And so we
Speaker 4: debated together and we called ourselves Armageddon a because it
Speaker 4: was sort of such a bizarre combination. We were friends
Speaker 4: and got along very well, but he he was very
Speaker 4: far left and I was very conservative. And we ended
Speaker 4: up in the fifth round, which was the final closed
Speaker 4: round of the tournament, hitting my normal debate partner David Panton,
Speaker 4: who's Jamaican. He's from Jamaica's not American, he's Jamaican. And
Speaker 4: I decided to run a case the United States is
Speaker 4: or is not the greatest country in the history of
Speaker 4: the universe. And I turned to David, who's beating the opposition.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Slash, who was my partner, thought
Speaker 4: the case was a falssm. He thought there was no
Speaker 4: way on earth you could make the case the argument
Speaker 4: that the America is the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a truism. I thought it was
Speaker 4: indisputably true. I get up a minute into the speech.
Speaker 4: I turned to David and say which side would you take?
Speaker 4: And David, grinning ear to ear.
Speaker 3: Says we will take that it is.
Speaker 4: And he made me argue that America is not the
Speaker 4: greatest country in the history of the world. Now you
Speaker 4: gotta understand, David is Jamaica, He's not American.
Speaker 3: But he knew that.
Speaker 4: I believed that case with every molecule in my body,
Speaker 4: and I'm proud to tell you David whipped my ass.
Speaker 4: I couldn't effectively make the case that America is not
Speaker 4: the greatest country in the history of the world. And
Speaker 4: so Slash and I lost the round badly. But I
Speaker 4: mentioned that to say in apparently today's college debate, what
Speaker 4: David and I did would no longer be allowed because
Speaker 4: these radical Marxist Leninist Maoist judges who apparently don't care
Speaker 4: about debate. They don't actually believe debate matters. That judge
Speaker 4: would sit there and go, oh, you said America is
Speaker 4: not the greatest country. You win, doesn't matter. You could
Speaker 4: You could sit there and and and and whistle you
Speaker 4: you can just read the phone book. Doesn't matter what
Speaker 4: you do. You win because I'm I'm a Marxist and
Speaker 4: I agree with your position. That is so destructive to
Speaker 4: the very essence of debate, and it's destroying what is
Speaker 4: an incredible teaching experience for for college kids. I got
Speaker 4: to admit this story has me horrified.
Speaker 1: It's an indoctrination aspect of this as well.
Speaker 2: Right, you can play and do this as long as
Speaker 2: you say, and we indoctrinate you to believe a certain point.
Speaker 2: When I when I was in high school, I had
Speaker 2: a debate and I remember this and it was like
Speaker 2: a very weird moment for me, and the debate coach
Speaker 2: was amazing and he said, all right, one of you
Speaker 2: is going to take the side that we that is
Speaker 2: right to ban the burning of the American flag, and
Speaker 2: the other is going to, you know, obviously, take the opposite.
Speaker 2: And I had to argue both sides once in one round.
Speaker 2: And the other on the other round, and it was.
Speaker 2: It taught me so much though about learning what the
Speaker 2: other side says, what the other side believes, why they
Speaker 2: believe it, and it gave me an incredible amount of
Speaker 2: training for doing what I do today. When you go
Speaker 2: on TV and when you're talking about tough issues and
Speaker 2: we're you know, debating grand ideas, but I cannot imagine
Speaker 2: having a debate coach. It says, hey, you can say
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say as long as it's what
Speaker 2: I believe you should indoctrinate to believe, and then you
Speaker 2: can only argue that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to admit, like I read about the
Speaker 4: knucklehead coach who said, if you say the word he alien,
Speaker 4: I'll end the round, score you as losing and give
Speaker 4: you very low points and then lecture you. I gotta admit,
Speaker 4: if that coach said that to me at eighteen, I
Speaker 4: would have taken his head off. I mean we would
Speaker 4: have had a screen. He wanted a debate, We would
Speaker 4: have had a debate right there because I would have
Speaker 4: said some four letter words that would have been.
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Speaker 2: speaker that should have been stopped, in my opinion, should
Speaker 2: never have been able to do this in the first place.
Speaker 2: But here we are watching at a law school and
Speaker 2: again paid for with tax dollars, this type of anti
Speaker 2: Semitism being sanctioned by quote higher education.
Speaker 4: Well, this woman was the class day speaker at the
Speaker 4: graduation of the law school of City University of New York.
Speaker 4: And she is from Yemen and grew up in the Bronx,
Speaker 4: and she is a hard leftist.
Speaker 3: And the speech she gave.
Speaker 4: Was virulently uh anti Israel, was slanding, slandering Israel with lies.
Speaker 4: She was reveling in anti Semitism, and in a way
Speaker 4: that that that there there really is no other bigotry
Speaker 4: that that would be as welcome at a college.
Speaker 3: Graduation as anti Semitism.
Speaker 4: She also, by the way, enthusiastically cheerleads open borders and
Speaker 4: releasing violent criminals from jail, and she refers to police
Speaker 4: officers as the quote fascist NYPD and and and so
Speaker 4: give a listen to to the class day speaker at
Speaker 4: the City University of New York at their graduation.
Speaker 5: And this moment of celebrating who we are, I want
Speaker 5: to celebrate CUNY Law as one of the few, if
Speaker 5: not the only, law school to make a public statement
Speaker 5: defending the right of its students to organize and speak
Speaker 5: out against Israeli settler colonialism.
Speaker 1: That this.
Speaker 5: That this is the law school that passed and endorsed
Speaker 5: VDS on a student and faculty level, recognizing that absent
Speaker 5: a critical imperialism, settler colonialism lens our work and this
Speaker 5: school's mission statement is void of value. That as Israel
Speaker 5: continues to indiscriminately rain bullets and bombs on worshipers, murdering
Speaker 5: the old, the young, attacking even funerals and graveyards, as
Speaker 5: it encourages lynch mobs to target Palestinian homes and businesses,
Speaker 5: as it imprisons its children, as it continues its project
Speaker 5: of settler colonialism, expelling Palestinians from their homes, carrying the
Speaker 5: ongoing nekba that are silent is that our silence is
Speaker 5: no longer acceptable.
Speaker 6: We are.
Speaker 5: We are the student body and faculty that fought back
Speaker 5: when investor focused admin attempted to cross the BDS picket line,
Speaker 5: saying loud and clear that Palestine can no longer be
Speaker 5: the exception to our pursuit of justice, that our morality
Speaker 5: will not be purchased by investors.
Speaker 1: We are the class.
Speaker 5: We are the class that fought for incarcerated clients and
Speaker 5: zealously filed for their clemency applications with nearly zero institutional support.
Speaker 5: We are the class that fought for clients to get asylum,
Speaker 5: that went to court to reunite families torn apart by
Speaker 5: ACS and the family surveillance. We are the class that
Speaker 5: organized against using lexus, a legal research company contracted with ICE.
Speaker 1: And we did all of this.
Speaker 5: In spite of the racism, in spite of the selective activism,
Speaker 5: the self serving interests of CUNY Central, and institution that
Speaker 5: continues to fail, us that continues to train and cooperate
Speaker 5: with the fascist NYPD, the military that continues to train
Speaker 5: IDF soldiers to carry out that same violence globally, A
Speaker 5: larger institution committed to its donors, not to its student.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a big day on campus. You
Speaker 2: can hear the law student's cheeringness. What worries me is
Speaker 2: the fact that these are going to be the lawyers
Speaker 2: of tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Well, and the vicious racism, the anti Semitism that she's viewing.
Speaker 3: What she's saying.
Speaker 4: About Israel, or blatant lies that the indiscriminated rain bullets
Speaker 4: down on people who are worshiping and in prison children
Speaker 4: and they kill the young and old alike. That that's
Speaker 4: just a wild lie. And and in fact they target terrorists,
Speaker 4: they target people who are murdering innocent civilians. The people
Speaker 4: who indiscriminately murder civilians are the Palestinian terrorists, the Hamas
Speaker 4: and Hezbala terrorists that this speaker is celebrating. By the way,
Speaker 4: she made reference to Nakba. Nakba is is the phrase
Speaker 4: that that that is used for quote, the Palestinian catastrophe,
Speaker 4: which is another phrase for the founding of the modern
Speaker 4: state of Israel. She is decrying the fact that Israel exists,
Speaker 4: because you know, there are Muslims nations throughout the Middle East.
Speaker 4: But she is offended that how dare there be one
Speaker 4: nation on earth, a Jewish state, one nation that exists
Speaker 4: that is the state of Israel. This speech is so radical,
Speaker 4: it is so filled with hate. It's advocating BDS, which
Speaker 4: is boycott, divestiture and sanctions, which is anti Semitic and
Speaker 4: targeting the state of Israel. If you were a Jewish
Speaker 4: student listening to this, listening to this cheering, listening to
Speaker 4: these lies, how would you feel graduating from this university?
Speaker 4: And by the way, this university is paid for with
Speaker 4: taxpayer funds from New York. She also attacks anyone who
Speaker 4: works with ICE because apparently the United States cannot enforce
Speaker 4: our immigration laws at all, and she calls the NYPD fascist.
Speaker 4: Mind you, this is the City University of New York.
Speaker 4: Presumably some of these graduates of the law school are
Speaker 4: going to go work in the criminal justice system in
Speaker 4: New York. And these cheering Marxists believe that being a
Speaker 4: police officer means you're a fascist. I got to say,
Speaker 4: you want an indictment of how lost so many.
Speaker 1: Of our schools are.
Speaker 4: Their willingness to revel in lies, anti semitism and radicalism.
Speaker 4: That really shows you where they're coming from.
Speaker 2: And again this comes back to a funding asue you
Speaker 2: mentioned this in your tweet, paid with tax dours. This
Speaker 2: is a law school paid with tax dours. Democrats have
Speaker 2: no problem spending our money this way. When are conservatives
Speaker 2: going to be able to wake up and pull and
Speaker 2: realize that these purse strings and our tax stars are
Speaker 2: being used to indoctrinate this type of bigotry and anti
Speaker 2: semitism enthusiastically with an audience cheering.
Speaker 4: Well and listen that that's one of the reasons why
Speaker 4: Lee Zelden, the former congressman from New York who ran
Speaker 4: for governor in New York and came close but didn't win.
Speaker 4: And Lee is a good friend Lise, someone who I
Speaker 4: backed and campaigned for when he first ran for Congress.
Speaker 4: Lee tweeted this portion of speech out and what he
Speaker 4: said was quote raging anti Semitism is fully consumed the
Speaker 4: City University of New York until the administration is overhauled
Speaker 4: and all Jewish students and faculty are welcome again. Taxpayer
Speaker 4: funding must be immediately halted. And when you have a
Speaker 4: place that becomes a vicious cesspool of racism and indoctrination,
Speaker 4: that that's no longer carrying out an educational mission, that
Speaker 4: is instead performing the very same mission of indoctrination, which look,
Speaker 4: there's a link between all three of these stories in
Speaker 4: this podcast today. Whether it is DHS funding in doctrination
Speaker 4: saying if you're a Republican, if you listen to Fox News,
Speaker 4: you're connected to the Nazis. Whether it's debate judges saying
Speaker 4: if you dare defend America or capitalism, you must lose,
Speaker 4: or whether it is the vicious lies coming at the
Speaker 4: City University of New York Law School graduation. All three
Speaker 4: are examples of how the hard left weaponizes to indoctrinate,
Speaker 4: to intimidate, and to silence and attack their opponents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this goes straight into our last little tidbit here.
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Speaker 2: want you to explain if people have never seen Mightey
Speaker 2: Python and what it is, explain it for people before
Speaker 2: we play this.
Speaker 4: Well, this is from the terrific movie Life of Brian
Speaker 4: and and and to give a little bit of background,
Speaker 4: Life of Brian. Uh, it's a very funny comedy. And
Speaker 4: and they're in the process now of putting together a
Speaker 4: theatrical presentation of Life of Brian, so basically taking off
Speaker 4: the movie screen and doing it on stage. And and
Speaker 4: and this is we're closing the podcast with a bit
Speaker 4: of good news, which which is that that as they
Speaker 4: were putting it on stage, there was enormous pressure to
Speaker 4: cut one scene from the movie from the stage protection
Speaker 4: and and uh and that was the scene where where
Speaker 4: they refer to the obvious fact that men can't have babies.
Speaker 4: And so John Cleese, who's one of the founders of
Speaker 4: Monty Python and is an extremely funny man John Clease
Speaker 4: pointed out that that the actors as they were going
Speaker 4: through the stage presentation, the that that that the actors
Speaker 4: pressed hard to cut the scene. And several of the actors,
Speaker 4: he said, were Tony Winders and Winners, and they said no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you can't say this.
Speaker 3: You can't say this.
Speaker 4: And John Cleese, to his credit, said, I, of course
Speaker 4: have no intention of doing so. Look, John Cleaes and
Speaker 4: I come from very different places in the political spectrum.
Speaker 4: He is left of center. I am not, uh, but
Speaker 4: to his credit he believes in number one reality and
Speaker 4: number two comedy. And it shows real courage that he says, no,
Speaker 4: we're not going to cut the scene.
Speaker 3: And and and.
Speaker 4: Basically all of you people insisting that I do I'm
Speaker 4: paraphrasing here can piss off. And and let's listen to
Speaker 4: the scene that that that that virtually every actor in
Speaker 4: the stage presentation said we must cut because these words
Speaker 4: are too terrible find here in the modern world.
Speaker 6: Why are you always on about women? Stan, I want
Speaker 6: to be one. What I want to be a woman
Speaker 6: from now on. I want you all to call me
Speaker 6: Loretta what it's my right as a man. Why do
Speaker 6: you want to be Therettistan, I want to have babies.
Speaker 6: Do you want to have babies? Is every man's right
Speaker 6: to have babies if he wants them, But.
Speaker 1: You can't have babies.
Speaker 6: Don't you oppress me. I'm not oppressing you.
Speaker 1: Stand I've got a womb.
Speaker 6: Where's the venus gonna just take? You're gonna keep it
Speaker 6: in a box? Yeah, I've got an idea.
Speaker 5: Suppose you agree that.
Speaker 6: You can't actually have babies.
Speaker 1: Not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even.
Speaker 6: The Romans, but that he can have the right to
Speaker 6: have babies. Good idea, Judith, which you'll finally oppressed for
Speaker 6: your right have babies.
Speaker 1: Baba, sister, I mean, senator, you hear that.
Speaker 2: And it's just so frustrating because it's a great bit
Speaker 2: and yet people are like, oh, I'm offended by it.
Speaker 2: It's also completely in reality and also mocking. I think
Speaker 2: what they saw we're going to be coming down the
Speaker 2: pipe is that people actually would want to believe this
Speaker 2: type of crap, and yet here we are they're saying, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I won't do it, I won't touch it. And look,
Speaker 2: I'm glad that there's a victory on this one. Thank goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to John Clace for having the courage
Speaker 4: to defend his art and defend his comedy. If we
Speaker 4: have the hard left treating comedy like they treat college debate,
Speaker 4: saying you may only say what our doctrine insists, comedy
Speaker 4: will cease to be funny and look. I enjoy comedy
Speaker 4: that makes fun of both sides of the aisle. I'm
Speaker 4: perfectly capable of laughing at Republicans. I think there's a
Speaker 4: lot to mock on every place in the political aisle.
Speaker 4: But if it gets just sanitize and drained of all life,
Speaker 4: then comedy will lose what makes it special. And John
Speaker 4: Cleese at least is holding the line.
Speaker 3: Bravo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it.
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