1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: and this show is going to deal a lot with 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: the insanity of the woke movement. A university program is 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: now linking Christians and Republicans to Nazis, and your tax 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: dollars are helping pay for that. Plus a very interesting debate. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: It coverages and a scene that has now been deleted 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: that we're supposed to all say we're sorry it was 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: ever made. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Senator, great to be. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: With you, and I want to first talk about this 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: university program. It's costing American taxpayer dollars. A grant through 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security is now linking quote Christians 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: and Republicans to Nazis. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: Well, sadly, that's exactly right. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: The Department of Homeland Security has a program called the 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention Grant Program, which gives funds 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: to quote establish or enhance capabilities to prevent targeted violence 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: and terrorism. So you might think, Okay, this is going 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 4: after al Qaeda, this is going after Jihadis, this is 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: going after you know, maybe it's going after klansmen, maybe 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: it's going after Antifa, it's going after people who engage 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: in acts of violence and terrorism. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: Well, you would be wrong. 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: The Biden administration is awarded eighty grants through this program, 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 4: totally just under forty million dollars. The lowest grant was 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 4: for eighty five thousand dollars, the highest was just over 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: one point one million, and one of the grantees who 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: got three hundred and fifty two thoy one hundred and 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 4: nine dollars was Prevents Ohio program to quote draw on 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: the expertise of the University of Dayton faculty to fight 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: domestic violence, extremism, and hate movements, and the university's grant 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: application linked to a controversial Dayton conference where an academic 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: researcher presented a chart that is entitled the Pyramid of 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: far right Radicalizations. Now, what are the organizations and movements 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: displayed on the pyramid? 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: One is the Republican. 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 4: Party, another the Heritage Foundation, another the American Conservative Union, 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: another Fox News, another Breitbart News, another the National Rifle Association, 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: another Praeger University, another the Tea Party Patriots, another the 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: Make America Great Again movement, another the pro police Blue 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: Lives Matter movement, and another the Christian Broadcasting Network. 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 44 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: All of those right of center, very mainstream organizations. What 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: does the pyramid link them to? Hate groups like the Base, 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: which is a neo Nazi paramilitary group, and the Daily Stormer, 47 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 4: which is a pro Nazi publication. 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 5: Uh. 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: This The application from the University of Dayton linked to 50 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: a video of the conference, describing it as showing the 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: university's work quote to assess regional needs and capacities for 52 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: violent extremism prevention. One of the speakers at the conference, 53 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: a research at the University of Cincinnati called Michael low Adenthal, 54 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: presented the Pyramid of far right radicalization, said it was 55 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: an accurate description of the modern far right. And if 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: you look at this particular individual, he is an extreme individual. 57 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: If you look at his background, this lecturer Loadenthal, who 58 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: at the time described himself as a medical worker who 59 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: provided abortion services, So he's an abortion provider. He's frequently 60 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: retweeted Antifa counts and defends left wing violence on social media. 61 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: That's one of the guys presenting. So who else is 62 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: presenting at this organization. Well, there are other extremists, such 63 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: as a fellow named Alexander Hinton. He is a professor 64 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: at Rutgers University who specializes in genocide, and at the 65 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: conference he compared the Trump administration to the Khmer Rouge. 66 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: The Commer Rouge for pole Pot killed an estimated one 67 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: and a half million to two million people in Cambodia. 68 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: The last I checked the Trump administration didn't have death camps, 69 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: and the last I checked the left actually likes Communist 70 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: death camps. But another speaker, a woman named Nicole Wittersheim, 71 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 4: Deputy Washington director for Human Rights Watch, compared Florida Governor 72 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: Ronda Santis proposing a volunteer civilian military force to assist 73 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 4: the National Guard and emergencies such as hurricanes to the 74 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: Holocaust that the Nazis carried. 75 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: Out in World War Two. 76 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 5: These are. 77 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: The radicals who are being funded by the Joe Biden 78 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: Department of Homeland. 79 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: Security now Senator to be queer for everyone that's listening, 80 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: if a private group wants to do this, there's many 81 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: private groups to do this all the time. 82 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: That's one thing. 83 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: It's completely different when you're taking federal dollars, tax dollars 84 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: that are now going to this type of hateful propaganda 85 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: and advocating for things that are just clearly not true. 86 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: How are they getting away with this. 87 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 4: Well, okay, so their defense is they say, actually, the 88 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: seminar with all these radical speakers, that seminar itself was 89 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: not funded by the. 90 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security. 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: Instead, the organization that put on the seminar got funds 92 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 4: later from DHS and pointed to the seminar as an 93 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: example of the great work they do. And the Biden 94 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 4: DHS said, oh, that sounds great to us, and was 95 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: happy to spend your and my tax dollars supporting a 96 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: group that apparently sees no difference between the RNC, between 97 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: the Heritage Foundation, between Fox News and Nazis, an organization 98 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: that sees no difference between genocidal, murderous communist and the 99 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: Kamer Rouge, and the Trump administration. That is, it's the 100 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: latest example of the Biden administration being more than happy 101 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: to weaponize the federal government, to use the powers of 102 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: the federal government to target you, to pay people who 103 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 4: you you. I'm willing to bet that a fair number 104 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: of the listeners of this pot and by the way, 105 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: I got to say that I'm a little disappointed that 106 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: they listed the NRA and Fox News and the RNC, 107 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: and apparently verdict didn't make the list. I mean, heck, 108 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: I actually feel if they're listing what they think is 109 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: evil in the world, we got to work a little 110 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: bit harder because because we haven't apparently reached the level 111 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: of evil that these lunatics ascribed to places like but Breitbart. 112 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's because they haven't officially named you as are 113 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: verdict as a terrorist group, right. I mean, that's how 114 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: you hide these money, these dollars. The Biden administration doing 115 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: out these tax dollars to quote anti terrorism grant initiatives, 116 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: And that's part of how by the way they disguise it, 117 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: they say, well, who would be against giving tax dollars 118 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: to anti terrorism grant initiatives? To a university program that 119 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: is doing that, That's how you justify And I think 120 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: there's so how many people do you just assume if 121 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: you name it something like that, right, we're gonna give 122 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: a lot of tax dollars to anti terrorism grant initiative. 123 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: Most Americans if you heard that, would say, well, of 124 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: course I'm in favor of that. Of course I'm in 125 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: favor of using our tax dollars for anti terrorism initiatives. 126 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: That is not what they're doing here at this university program. 127 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: It is not. 128 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: They are engaged in propaganda, and the propaganda is saying 129 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: that anyone right of center is a terrorist, anyone right 130 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: of center as a Nazi, anyone right of center as 131 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: a klansman. It is the vicious lie that the radical 132 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 4: left pushes often, but it is not. Look if they 133 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: want to say that, that's fine, but why is the 134 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: government funding this. They're funding it because they want to 135 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: give fuel to the fire attacking those they view as 136 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: enemies of the regime. 137 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the money because the next 138 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: question people are going to ask the is all right, well, 139 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: how much money are we talking about here that's being 140 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: abused in this way? 141 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: And before we get into that, let me tell you 142 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: about our friends of chalk. 143 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: If you're a guy and you're ready to fight back, 144 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: you are sick and tired of that feeling, that feeling 145 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: of just fatigue, of feeling tired, and you understand, yeah, 146 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: something's changed. 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The Biden administration we 168 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: now know is awarded these eighty grants through this group. 169 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: This TVTP totally just under forty million dollars. 170 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: Now. 171 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: The lowest grant we've been told was Forrady five thousand, 172 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: the highest was for over one point one million, and 173 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: the median was about four hundred and forty two thousand dollars. Now, 174 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: these grant recipients are quote prohibited from engaging in viewpoint 175 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: discrimination according to DHS. Well, if that is the standard, 176 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: then I think it's pretty obvious that they are in 177 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: violation of that quote standard right away. 178 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: Here. 179 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: Look, I think that's exactly right. 180 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 4: This particular organization prevents Ohio program got three hundred and 181 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 4: fifty two thousand dollars, and given the history of this program, 182 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: given that they're pointing to this radical conference as evidence 183 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: of the kind of work they do, I have no 184 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: confidence that any acts of violence will be prevented by 185 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: this organization, that any terrorism will be prevented by this organization. 186 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: In fact, I have no confidence that this group will 187 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: even admit who is in fact a terrorist organization. If 188 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: you're identifying the Heritage Foundation, listen, you and I have 189 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: both been to Heritage Heritage as a building a couple 190 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: of blocks from Capitol Hill. It's this big building with 191 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: lots of scholarly academic folks, typically sitting in cubicles with 192 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 4: very thick glasses, writing very dense white papers, and about 193 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: the only act of violence you might get from a 194 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: Heritage Foundation scholars. You might get a paper cut from 195 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 4: picking up their white paper, but they are not fire 196 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: bombing cities, they are not looting stores, they are not 197 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: blowing places up. They're not doing the sorts of things 198 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 4: actually that the radical left that Antifa is doing. But 199 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: of course this organization would never target Antifa because look, 200 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: we've talked about this quite a lot that the distressing 201 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: reality is this bided administration, I believe, is perfectly fine 202 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: with political violence if it serves their partisan interest. It's 203 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: why to this date, Merrick Garland has not prosecuted a 204 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: single individual breaking the law by protesting in front of 205 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: Supreme Court justices homes night after night after night, because 206 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: he supports that lawlessness, and the administration doesn't care if 207 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 4: it's directly contrary. 208 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: To federal law. 209 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: Now that we know how this money is being spent, center, 210 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: is there any way that the House could look into 211 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: this spending and hold Department of Home and Security accountable 212 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: for quarly abusing these funds. 213 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I hope the House holds hearings on this. 214 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: The Senate should as well, but Senate Democrats don't care, 215 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: so that they're not going to old hearings on this, 216 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: because they're perfectly fine with the money being spent in 217 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: this way. But the House ought to have hearings on this, 218 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: and I very much hope they do. 219 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: I want to move on to another issue that actually 220 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: is connected to this woke agenda even more. You are 221 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:23,479 Speaker 2: now calling out debate coaches who actually have banned students 222 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: from saying the words illegal immigrants. One coach told students 223 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: that if they use the term illegal quote unquote to 224 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: describe an immigrant, then he will give you, quote a 225 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: stern lecture and doc points from your team. Debate is something, 226 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: by the way, that I did in high school. 227 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: Loved it. You did it in high school. 228 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm guessing, but I feel very confident you did. 229 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: And you obviously did debate I'm sure in college and 230 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: then mock trial and things like that. The idea that 231 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: you can't have a real debate, and these coach are saying, 232 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: we're going to force you into certain words terminology you 233 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: want to talk about a freedom of speech problem. 234 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: In my opinion, this is it. 235 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: Well, I will say, Ben, that's actually a wager. You 236 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: would have lost a lot it. Wow, I wanted you 237 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: would have lost that. I wanted to do debate in 238 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 4: high school. But I went to a little bit of 239 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: school in Houston, Second Baptist High School, which you're well 240 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: familiar with it. And at the time my graduating class 241 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: was forty three and the school was too small, it 242 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: didn't have a debate team. So I was, if there's 243 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: anything geekier than a high school debater, it's a high 244 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: school debater wanna be, which is what I was. And 245 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: so yet, you know, I mean, I didn't get to 246 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: hang around, you know, cool varsity tennis players like Ben Ferguson. 247 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: But when I went to college, I managed to achieve 248 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: my aspirations and I became a college debater. And I 249 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: spent almost every weekend all four years at Princeton doing 250 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: college debate and loved it and learned an enormous amount 251 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: from it. And there's an article that came out just 252 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: a week ago, and it's an article in the Free 253 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: Press by an individual named James Fishback, and it's entitled 254 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: it high school Debates. 255 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: Debate is no. 256 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: Longer allowed, and it talks about an amazing thing going 257 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:23,359 Speaker 4: on where there are now debate judges that are debating 258 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: in that are judging college debate in NSDA, which is 259 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: one of the college debate tournaments, not the one I 260 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: competed on, but it's another one that's heavily on the 261 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: West coast. And he goes through the profiles from a 262 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: number of judges and what they described. So one judge 263 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: is someone named Lilah Lavender who was National debate Champion 264 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen. And according to the bio of Lilah Lavender, 265 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: quote before anything else, including being a debate judge, I'm 266 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: a Marxist, Leninist, maoist. I cannot check the revolutionary proletarian 267 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: science at the door. When I'm judging, I will no 268 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: longer evaluate and thus never vote for rightist, capitalist, imperialist 269 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: positions arguments. Examples of arguments of this nature are as follows. 270 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: Fascism good capitalism, good imperialist war, good neoliberalism, good. Defenses 271 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: of the US are otherwise bourgeois nationalism, zionism or normalizing 272 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: Israel colonialism, good US white fascist policing good, etc. That 273 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: is astonishing. By the way, there's another judge whose bio 274 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: says some judge named Shubham Gupta, and his judge his 275 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: bio reads, quote, if you are discussing immigrants in a 276 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: round and describe the person as quote illegal, I will 277 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 4: immediately stop the round, give you the loss with low speaks, 278 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: low speaker points, give you a stern lecture, and then 279 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: talk to your coach. I will not have you making 280 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: the debate state space unsafe. Well, mister Gupta, let me 281 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: tell you something. The word illegal alien is in federal law. 282 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: It is United States law, and the fact that you 283 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: are a little Marxist doesn't change reality. Another judge, Judge 284 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: Christy Sharma, writes a list of quote things that will 285 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: cause you to automatically lose. Number three is referring to 286 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 4: immigrants as illegal. So I want you to think of this, 287 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: this lavender person who describes themselves as a Marxist, Leninist, Maoist. Now, 288 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: it is apparently the standard, at least with these judges 289 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 4: in college debate that unless you argue for communism, you 290 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: will lose. That's not debate, that is indoctrination, that is 291 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 4: repeating Pravda. And I got to say, look, I'm someone 292 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 4: who as a debater, I learned an enormous amount and 293 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: by the way, I had to debate lots of positions 294 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: I didn't agree with in many ways you learn more 295 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: debating a proposition you disagree with, and you learn debating 296 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: something you agree strongly with. I'll tell you one of 297 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: my favorite stories. So, my debate partner in college was 298 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 4: a guy named David Panton, and he was my college roommate, 299 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 4: my law school roommate. Other than Heidi's my closest friend 300 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: on planet Earth. 301 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: You met David in fact. 302 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: We played tennis and pickleball together. It's a great guy. 303 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: David and I we were debate. 304 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 4: Partners, and we got tired about in debate people whining 305 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: and complaining about whatever case it was you ran, and 306 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 4: they would complaining, oh, it's unfair, the case is a truism, 307 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: it's tautology, and they'd spend the entire debate round whining 308 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: that it was unfair to debate whatever it was that 309 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: you were proposing. And so we came up with a 310 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 4: way to avoid that. And what we would do at 311 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: just about every single case where we were the affirmative, 312 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: where we were presenting a case, is we'd give the 313 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: opposing team the option of which side to take. So 314 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 4: I'd stand up and present the initial speech of the 315 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: debate round, and I'd say, you know, all right, let's 316 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: take one of the issues that is apparently no longer allowed. 317 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: Capitalism is the most effective economic system ever to exist 318 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: on planet Earth. And I'd turn to the other side 319 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: and say yes or no, which side do you take? 320 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 4: And if they'd pick, all the whining disappeared from the 321 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 4: round because once they picked, they couldn't complain gosh, it's 322 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: unfair the side I picked, because you morons. 323 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: Picked that side. 324 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 4: And if they refused to pick, I'd typically flip a 325 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: coin take one side. But even that eliminated the whining. 326 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: I mentioned that because there was there was one round 327 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 4: in particular, so senior year. Towards the end of senior year, 328 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 4: David and nine competed at what was called a hybrid tournament. Now, 329 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 4: hybrid tournament was you teamed up with a debater from 330 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: another school, and the rules were that if you made 331 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: a final tournament, if you made a final round in 332 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: a tournament, you qualified. 333 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: For the national tournament. 334 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: And so David and I had both qualified for NATS 335 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: at that point, we decided we'd go to hybrid. We'd 336 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 4: go to the hybrid tournament and team up with other folks, 337 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: and so I teamed up with a guy from University 338 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: of Maryland, Baltimore County named Slash Kendig Slash. It was 339 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: a fantastic debater. He had long hair and a beard. 340 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: He had a leather jacket with I think thirty seven 341 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: razor blades on it. One he said, for every woman 342 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: that had broken up with him and cut his heart, Slash. 343 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: Against the debate, Right, that's the guy you don't want 344 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: to go up in debating agains. 345 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 346 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 4: Look, he was like a you know, biker outlaw was 347 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: the sort of image he portrayed, and I was a 348 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: pretty buttoned up, you know, Princeton guy. And so we 349 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 4: debated together and we called ourselves Armageddon a because it 350 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: was sort of such a bizarre combination. We were friends 351 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 4: and got along very well, but he he was very 352 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: far left and I was very conservative. And we ended 353 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: up in the fifth round, which was the final closed 354 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 4: round of the tournament, hitting my normal debate partner David Panton, 355 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: who's Jamaican. He's from Jamaica's not American, he's Jamaican. And 356 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: I decided to run a case the United States is 357 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: or is not the greatest country in the history of 358 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: the universe. And I turned to David, who's beating the opposition. 359 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: And by the way, Slash, who was my partner, thought 360 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 4: the case was a falssm. He thought there was no 361 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: way on earth you could make the case the argument 362 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: that the America is the greatest country in the world. 363 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: I thought it was a truism. I thought it was 364 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: indisputably true. I get up a minute into the speech. 365 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: I turned to David and say which side would you take? 366 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: And David, grinning ear to ear. 367 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: Says we will take that it is. 368 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: And he made me argue that America is not the 369 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 4: greatest country in the history of the world. Now you 370 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: gotta understand, David is Jamaica, He's not American. 371 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: But he knew that. 372 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: I believed that case with every molecule in my body, 373 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: and I'm proud to tell you David whipped my ass. 374 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: I couldn't effectively make the case that America is not 375 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 4: the greatest country in the history of the world. And 376 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: so Slash and I lost the round badly. But I 377 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 4: mentioned that to say in apparently today's college debate, what 378 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: David and I did would no longer be allowed because 379 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: these radical Marxist Leninist Maoist judges who apparently don't care 380 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: about debate. They don't actually believe debate matters. That judge 381 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: would sit there and go, oh, you said America is 382 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 4: not the greatest country. You win, doesn't matter. You could 383 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 4: You could sit there and and and and whistle you 384 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: you can just read the phone book. Doesn't matter what 385 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 4: you do. You win because I'm I'm a Marxist and 386 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: I agree with your position. That is so destructive to 387 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: the very essence of debate, and it's destroying what is 388 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 4: an incredible teaching experience for for college kids. I got 389 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: to admit this story has me horrified. 390 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: It's an indoctrination aspect of this as well. 391 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: Right, you can play and do this as long as 392 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: you say, and we indoctrinate you to believe a certain point. 393 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: When I when I was in high school, I had 394 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: a debate and I remember this and it was like 395 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: a very weird moment for me, and the debate coach 396 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: was amazing and he said, all right, one of you 397 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: is going to take the side that we that is 398 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: right to ban the burning of the American flag, and 399 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: the other is going to, you know, obviously, take the opposite. 400 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: And I had to argue both sides once in one round. 401 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: And the other on the other round, and it was. 402 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: It taught me so much though about learning what the 403 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: other side says, what the other side believes, why they 404 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: believe it, and it gave me an incredible amount of 405 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: training for doing what I do today. When you go 406 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: on TV and when you're talking about tough issues and 407 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: we're you know, debating grand ideas, but I cannot imagine 408 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: having a debate coach. It says, hey, you can say 409 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: whatever you want to say as long as it's what 410 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: I believe you should indoctrinate to believe, and then you 411 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: can only argue that. 412 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to admit, like I read about the 413 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: knucklehead coach who said, if you say the word he alien, 414 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 4: I'll end the round, score you as losing and give 415 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: you very low points and then lecture you. I gotta admit, 416 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: if that coach said that to me at eighteen, I 417 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: would have taken his head off. I mean we would 418 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: have had a screen. He wanted a debate, We would 419 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 4: have had a debate right there because I would have 420 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: said some four letter words that would have been. 421 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: Memorable, no doubt about it. 422 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: I want to move to something else that deals with 423 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: this type of insanity as well. There is that time 424 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: of year, it's graduation time. 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The City University of New York, they had 468 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: a speaker that not only was anti Semitic, but was 469 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: enthusiastically celebrating anti semitism in New York. This was a 470 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: speaker that should have been stopped, in my opinion, should 471 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: never have been able to do this in the first place. 472 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: But here we are watching at a law school and 473 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: again paid for with tax dollars, this type of anti 474 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: Semitism being sanctioned by quote higher education. 475 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: Well, this woman was the class day speaker at the 476 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 4: graduation of the law school of City University of New York. 477 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: And she is from Yemen and grew up in the Bronx, 478 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: and she is a hard leftist. 479 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: And the speech she gave. 480 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: Was virulently uh anti Israel, was slanding, slandering Israel with lies. 481 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: She was reveling in anti Semitism, and in a way 482 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 4: that that that there there really is no other bigotry 483 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: that that would be as welcome at a college. 484 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: Graduation as anti Semitism. 485 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 4: She also, by the way, enthusiastically cheerleads open borders and 486 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 4: releasing violent criminals from jail, and she refers to police 487 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: officers as the quote fascist NYPD and and and so 488 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 4: give a listen to to the class day speaker at 489 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: the City University of New York at their graduation. 490 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 5: And this moment of celebrating who we are, I want 491 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 5: to celebrate CUNY Law as one of the few, if 492 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: not the only, law school to make a public statement 493 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 5: defending the right of its students to organize and speak 494 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: out against Israeli settler colonialism. 495 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: That this. 496 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 5: That this is the law school that passed and endorsed 497 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 5: VDS on a student and faculty level, recognizing that absent 498 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: a critical imperialism, settler colonialism lens our work and this 499 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: school's mission statement is void of value. That as Israel 500 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: continues to indiscriminately rain bullets and bombs on worshipers, murdering 501 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 5: the old, the young, attacking even funerals and graveyards, as 502 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: it encourages lynch mobs to target Palestinian homes and businesses, 503 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: as it imprisons its children, as it continues its project 504 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: of settler colonialism, expelling Palestinians from their homes, carrying the 505 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 5: ongoing nekba that are silent is that our silence is 506 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 5: no longer acceptable. 507 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 6: We are. 508 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: We are the student body and faculty that fought back 509 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 5: when investor focused admin attempted to cross the BDS picket line, 510 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 5: saying loud and clear that Palestine can no longer be 511 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 5: the exception to our pursuit of justice, that our morality 512 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 5: will not be purchased by investors. 513 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: We are the class. 514 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 5: We are the class that fought for incarcerated clients and 515 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: zealously filed for their clemency applications with nearly zero institutional support. 516 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: We are the class that fought for clients to get asylum, 517 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 5: that went to court to reunite families torn apart by 518 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: ACS and the family surveillance. We are the class that 519 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 5: organized against using lexus, a legal research company contracted with ICE. 520 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: And we did all of this. 521 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 5: In spite of the racism, in spite of the selective activism, 522 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 5: the self serving interests of CUNY Central, and institution that 523 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 5: continues to fail, us that continues to train and cooperate 524 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 5: with the fascist NYPD, the military that continues to train 525 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 5: IDF soldiers to carry out that same violence globally, A 526 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 5: larger institution committed to its donors, not to its student. 527 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a big day on campus. You 528 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: can hear the law student's cheeringness. What worries me is 529 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: the fact that these are going to be the lawyers 530 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: of tomorrow. 531 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: Well, and the vicious racism, the anti Semitism that she's viewing. 532 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: What she's saying. 533 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: About Israel, or blatant lies that the indiscriminated rain bullets 534 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: down on people who are worshiping and in prison children 535 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: and they kill the young and old alike. That that's 536 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 4: just a wild lie. And and in fact they target terrorists, 537 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: they target people who are murdering innocent civilians. The people 538 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 4: who indiscriminately murder civilians are the Palestinian terrorists, the Hamas 539 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: and Hezbala terrorists that this speaker is celebrating. By the way, 540 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 4: she made reference to Nakba. Nakba is is the phrase 541 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: that that that is used for quote, the Palestinian catastrophe, 542 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 4: which is another phrase for the founding of the modern 543 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: state of Israel. She is decrying the fact that Israel exists, 544 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: because you know, there are Muslims nations throughout the Middle East. 545 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: But she is offended that how dare there be one 546 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: nation on earth, a Jewish state, one nation that exists 547 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: that is the state of Israel. This speech is so radical, 548 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: it is so filled with hate. It's advocating BDS, which 549 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: is boycott, divestiture and sanctions, which is anti Semitic and 550 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 4: targeting the state of Israel. If you were a Jewish 551 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 4: student listening to this, listening to this cheering, listening to 552 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: these lies, how would you feel graduating from this university? 553 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: And by the way, this university is paid for with 554 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: taxpayer funds from New York. She also attacks anyone who 555 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: works with ICE because apparently the United States cannot enforce 556 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: our immigration laws at all, and she calls the NYPD fascist. 557 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: Mind you, this is the City University of New York. 558 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 4: Presumably some of these graduates of the law school are 559 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: going to go work in the criminal justice system in 560 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 4: New York. And these cheering Marxists believe that being a 561 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 4: police officer means you're a fascist. I got to say, 562 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: you want an indictment of how lost so many. 563 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: Of our schools are. 564 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 4: Their willingness to revel in lies, anti semitism and radicalism. 565 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: That really shows you where they're coming from. 566 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: And again this comes back to a funding asue you 567 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: mentioned this in your tweet, paid with tax dours. This 568 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: is a law school paid with tax dours. Democrats have 569 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 2: no problem spending our money this way. When are conservatives 570 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: going to be able to wake up and pull and 571 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: realize that these purse strings and our tax stars are 572 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: being used to indoctrinate this type of bigotry and anti 573 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: semitism enthusiastically with an audience cheering. 574 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: Well and listen that that's one of the reasons why 575 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: Lee Zelden, the former congressman from New York who ran 576 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 4: for governor in New York and came close but didn't win. 577 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 4: And Lee is a good friend Lise, someone who I 578 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: backed and campaigned for when he first ran for Congress. 579 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: Lee tweeted this portion of speech out and what he 580 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: said was quote raging anti Semitism is fully consumed the 581 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: City University of New York until the administration is overhauled 582 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 4: and all Jewish students and faculty are welcome again. Taxpayer 583 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 4: funding must be immediately halted. And when you have a 584 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: place that becomes a vicious cesspool of racism and indoctrination, 585 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 4: that that's no longer carrying out an educational mission, that 586 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: is instead performing the very same mission of indoctrination, which look, 587 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: there's a link between all three of these stories in 588 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: this podcast today. Whether it is DHS funding in doctrination 589 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 4: saying if you're a Republican, if you listen to Fox News, 590 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 4: you're connected to the Nazis. Whether it's debate judges saying 591 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 4: if you dare defend America or capitalism, you must lose, 592 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 4: or whether it is the vicious lies coming at the 593 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: City University of New York Law School graduation. All three 594 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 4: are examples of how the hard left weaponizes to indoctrinate, 595 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: to intimidate, and to silence and attack their opponents. 596 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this goes straight into our last little tidbit here. 597 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: If you are a fan of money Python, it's something 598 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: that I loved watching in high school. 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Senator, 634 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: you and I both love uh and and and I 635 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: want you to explain if people have never seen Mightey 636 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: Python and what it is, explain it for people before 637 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: we play this. 638 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 4: Well, this is from the terrific movie Life of Brian 639 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 4: and and and to give a little bit of background, 640 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 4: Life of Brian. Uh, it's a very funny comedy. And 641 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 4: and they're in the process now of putting together a 642 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 4: theatrical presentation of Life of Brian, so basically taking off 643 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 4: the movie screen and doing it on stage. And and 644 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 4: and this is we're closing the podcast with a bit 645 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: of good news, which which is that that as they 646 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 4: were putting it on stage, there was enormous pressure to 647 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 4: cut one scene from the movie from the stage protection 648 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 4: and and uh and that was the scene where where 649 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 4: they refer to the obvious fact that men can't have babies. 650 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 4: And so John Cleese, who's one of the founders of 651 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 4: Monty Python and is an extremely funny man John Clease 652 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 4: pointed out that that the actors as they were going 653 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: through the stage presentation, the that that that the actors 654 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 4: pressed hard to cut the scene. And several of the actors, 655 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: he said, were Tony Winders and Winners, and they said no, no, no, 656 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 4: you can't say this. 657 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: You can't say this. 658 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 4: And John Cleese, to his credit, said, I, of course 659 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 4: have no intention of doing so. Look, John Cleaes and 660 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: I come from very different places in the political spectrum. 661 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 4: He is left of center. I am not, uh, but 662 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 4: to his credit he believes in number one reality and 663 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: number two comedy. And it shows real courage that he says, no, 664 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 4: we're not going to cut the scene. 665 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: And and and. 666 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 4: Basically all of you people insisting that I do I'm 667 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 4: paraphrasing here can piss off. And and let's listen to 668 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 4: the scene that that that that virtually every actor in 669 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: the stage presentation said we must cut because these words 670 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: are too terrible find here in the modern world. 671 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 6: Why are you always on about women? Stan, I want 672 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 6: to be one. What I want to be a woman 673 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 6: from now on. I want you all to call me 674 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 6: Loretta what it's my right as a man. Why do 675 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 6: you want to be Therettistan, I want to have babies. 676 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 6: Do you want to have babies? Is every man's right 677 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 6: to have babies if he wants them, But. 678 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: You can't have babies. 679 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 6: Don't you oppress me. I'm not oppressing you. 680 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: Stand I've got a womb. 681 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 6: Where's the venus gonna just take? You're gonna keep it 682 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 6: in a box? Yeah, I've got an idea. 683 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 5: Suppose you agree that. 684 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 6: You can't actually have babies. 685 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: Not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even. 686 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 6: The Romans, but that he can have the right to 687 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 6: have babies. Good idea, Judith, which you'll finally oppressed for 688 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 6: your right have babies. 689 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: Baba, sister, I mean, senator, you hear that. 690 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: And it's just so frustrating because it's a great bit 691 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 2: and yet people are like, oh, I'm offended by it. 692 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: It's also completely in reality and also mocking. I think 693 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 2: what they saw we're going to be coming down the 694 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: pipe is that people actually would want to believe this 695 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: type of crap, and yet here we are they're saying, oh, well, 696 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 2: I won't do it, I won't touch it. And look, 697 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: I'm glad that there's a victory on this one. Thank goodness. 698 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to John Clace for having the courage 699 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 4: to defend his art and defend his comedy. If we 700 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 4: have the hard left treating comedy like they treat college debate, 701 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 4: saying you may only say what our doctrine insists, comedy 702 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 4: will cease to be funny and look. I enjoy comedy 703 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 4: that makes fun of both sides of the aisle. I'm 704 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 4: perfectly capable of laughing at Republicans. I think there's a 705 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 4: lot to mock on every place in the political aisle. 706 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 4: But if it gets just sanitize and drained of all life, 707 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 4: then comedy will lose what makes it special. And John 708 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: Cleese at least is holding the line. 709 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 3: Bravo. 710 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. 711 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: I also want to remind all of you we do 712 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: our show Monday, Wednesday and Friday, so make sure you 713 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: hit the subscribe, the auto downloader if you're on Apple, 714 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 2: the follow button wherever you're listening to this podcast, so 715 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: you get this podcast each and every day that we publish. 716 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 2: The other thing is when there is big breaking news, 717 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 2: we will do special pods as well. 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