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Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling. Adam Judy is joining us. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about the Seattle Mariners.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You can follow Adam's coverage in the Seattle Times. Adam,

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Speaker 1: great to have you back on the show. Appreciate the time,

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Speaker 1: and we'll just start nice and simple. How do you

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Speaker 1: grade the off season right now for Seattle?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me Fellas. Yeah, the Mariners, there's some

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Speaker 3: bubbling frustration I think of brewing with Mariners fans. I

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Speaker 3: would grade it as a solid BB plus for the Mariners,

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Speaker 3: but it does feel a little incomplete. I know the

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Speaker 3: Mariners are still in the market for a proven veteran

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Speaker 3: bat that they'd like to be able to insert either.

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Speaker 2: At the top or the middle of the lineup.

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Speaker 3: We can talk about the Brendan Donovan continued rumors here.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it does feel in some ways incomplete. Mariners

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Speaker 3: that was really good and really deep and made it

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Speaker 3: to Game seven of the ALCS, And so I think

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Speaker 3: some fans here understand and are wondering, Okay, what's what's

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Speaker 3: the plan here? You know, we're right there. This is

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Speaker 3: maybe the best Mariners team they've had here in a generation,

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Speaker 3: and they have reasonable World Series hopes this year. So

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Speaker 3: what are we doing to add, you know, one more

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Speaker 2: Here is this the lineup? Is this the team? What's

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Speaker 3: I do know the Mariners are continuing to scour the

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Speaker 3: market and look for one more proven bat. I would

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Speaker 2: But right now, you know, it's been a solid off season.

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Speaker 2: They were they.

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Speaker 3: Struck first with with Josh Naylor. That was a big

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Speaker 3: commitment on their part. Five years, ninety two point five

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Speaker 3: million dollars, the biggest free agent contract they've handed out

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Speaker 3: to a hitter since Robbie Cano in twenty thirteen. So

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Speaker 3: from the Mariner's perspective, obviously that was their priority. He's

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Speaker 3: their middle of the order presence. He fit in perfect

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Speaker 3: lee Naylor did with his team in this clubhouse. Obviously

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Speaker 3: in the second half last year and deep into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think because of the timing of that in mid November,

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Speaker 3: you have a lot of antsy Marion fans when are okay,

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Speaker 3: now what now?

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Speaker 2: What? Now what?

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Speaker 3: But overall it's been a good offseason, but in some

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Speaker 4: All right, Only one thing I want to say, they

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Speaker 4: need what a third baseman? Didn't they go get a

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Speaker 4: guy that loves people, love in Seattle, and he loves Seattle.

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Speaker 4: And he's still sitting on the free agent market name

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Speaker 4: Gino Suarez. Why have have there been discussions like that?

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Speaker 4: Seems like the most perfect, easiest fit of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a lot of ways, it really is.

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Speaker 3: And he's still out there, and I think the Mariners

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Speaker 3: have been in contact.

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Speaker 2: He has the same agency as Julio Rodriguez.

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Speaker 3: There's great relationships there between the Mariners and Gino and.

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Speaker 2: His agency too. And Gino is thirty four years old.

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Speaker 3: And then when you kind of dive into his numbers, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he had a season fifty two home runs, including three

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Speaker 3: biggest swings in marinern history. Absolutely, And so yeah, he

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Speaker 3: checks all the boxes. Third base, awesome clubhouse guy, He's

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Speaker 2: That said, and part of the.

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Speaker 3: Mariners playing from day one this offseason, they've been really

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Speaker 2: They don't want to block.

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Speaker 3: Those guys, and specifically we're talking about Colt Emerson. But

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Speaker 2: Down to Triple A when they did get Ginos Juarez.

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Speaker 3: But Ben Williamson is certainly one of the best defensive

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Speaker 2: They want to give those guys some runway.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's just part of the economics of

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Speaker 3: And not to sound like you know, executives speak, but

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Speaker 2: And I think he's as mature as any.

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Speaker 3: Twenty year old the Mariners have had coming through here

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Speaker 2: And if they signed Genosuoraz.

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Speaker 3: To a you know, two year deal, three year deals,

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Speaker 5: Or was it the trade deadline last year? Does it

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Speaker 5: and we picked up Josh Nayler who stole one hundred

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Speaker 5: So do they did that kind of make them feel like, eh,

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Speaker 2: It's definitely a little bit of both.

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Speaker 3: I mean, not just this last trade deadline, but you

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Speaker 3: They got Luis Castillo in twenty two rand euros or

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Speaker 3: that's definitely.

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Speaker 2: Part of the Mariner's calculus.

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Speaker 3: It does feel like in some ways that prospects have

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Speaker 2: But again, at the same time, the Maritors, they've.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Again, part of it is the economics of it.

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Speaker 3: you know, for two months at five million dollars, so

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Speaker 2: Last handful of years.

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Speaker 4: So the a is this a budget thing or is

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Speaker 4: the seventeenth rated farm system. Whatever the Mariners are and

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Speaker 4: The Marriers have a lot of starting pitchers. Would they

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, they're not at that point.

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Speaker 3: And again, a guy like Brendan Donovan, who they've been

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Speaker 2: Brian Wo's name came up a lot a couple of

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Speaker 3: I don't know how close the marriage were to dealing

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Speaker 2: I think he was.

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Speaker 3: He's the top ten pitcher in all of baseball right now,

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Speaker 3: then you've got the rock. Luis Castillo is sort of

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Speaker 2: That they love.

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Speaker 3: But no, I, you know, that's one of the questions

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Speaker 5: Rob Refsneider is somebody that wasn't brought up at all

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone reasonably expects Cal to hit sixty again.

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Speaker 3: I actually ran into Cal yesterday. He bought new property

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Speaker 2: than I would.

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Speaker 3: Catching every day, catching as much as he does, and

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Speaker 3: then working with the pitching staff the way he does

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Speaker 3: hitting for both sides of the play. I mean, his time,

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Speaker 3: every minute of his day during the season is sort

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Speaker 3: of accounted for.

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Speaker 2: He's got his routine down, and you have to.

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Speaker 3: Wonder at some point, you know, does he need to

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Speaker 3: take a few extra days off here and there? What

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Speaker 3: are they doing to manage his workload? But if you

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Speaker 3: ask Cal, he wants to be in there. He wants

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Speaker 3: to be behind the plate every day. Again, he's twenty eight,

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Speaker 3: twenty nine years old, in the prime of his career,

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Speaker 3: the picture of health knocking on wood for him. But

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure there's too much of a worry about

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Speaker 3: him not hitting fifty or sixty home runs. You know,

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Speaker 3: you would think again, Hulio Rodriguez twenty five years old. Now,

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Speaker 3: it's like we've seen him get a little bit better,

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Speaker 3: a little bit better each year working on something. Is

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Speaker 3: this the year where he finally gets off to a

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Speaker 3: good start too, and he becomes the ten war player.

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Speaker 2: I think everyone feels like is inside of him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the difference right there, Josh Naylor, for a

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Speaker 3: full season, you get him in the middle of that lineup.

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Speaker 2: The mayorsol will figure it out somewhere.

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Speaker 3: But again, the power really was a big part of

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Speaker 3: their identity offense last year, and they're obviously gonna have

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Speaker 3: to find those home runs somewhere.

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Speaker 2: If Kallas, you're subtracting.

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Speaker 3: Twenty from him, and then you're losing paalon Co and

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Speaker 3: you're losing Geno two.

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Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see how that unfolds. Absolutely, godam mostly.

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Speaker 4: I know we're a baseball show, okay, but there is

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Speaker 4: a big game in about ten days, nine days or so.

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Speaker 4: And listen, I'm a Bears fan, but everyone, including my family,

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Speaker 4: all knows that my one.

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Speaker 5: B team is the Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: And I've been a Seahawks fan a long time because

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Speaker 4: I have friends that work in the organization. So has

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Speaker 4: anyone even noticed that the Mariners are in the offseason

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Speaker 4: or is it all the twelfth man? And by the way,

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Speaker 4: can we get them to wear these uniforms that's in

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowls?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 5: Because these helmets are sick.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually I've got a hustle out here.

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Speaker 3: I've been called out of the back end of the

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Speaker 3: bullpen to help with helpless.

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Speaker 2: Seahawks coverage at the Super Bowl. So I'll be there.

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Speaker 2: I'll go put in a good word and see if

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Speaker 2: we can.

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Speaker 3: That's my preference. Those are the helmets I grew up

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Speaker 3: with here in Seattle too. With the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: It's a great look and it looks great on you.

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Speaker 3: You could, you could probably play some special teams maybe

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Speaker 3: if they need you can.

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, please, just you know, let's do it, Sam,

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Speaker 4: one more game, Sam, Come on. Besides, nobody really likes

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Speaker 4: the Patriots, do they? I mean, has everyone tired of

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Speaker 4: the Patriots? Like I'm I mean, I know they went

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Speaker 4: away for a couple of years, but now here they

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Speaker 4: are again.

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Speaker 5: Salary cap, salary cap will eliminde dynasties.

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Speaker 1: It really, yes, yes, don't worry at him. Fifteen It's

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Speaker 1: the stat that burns into my brain. Fifteen straight years

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Speaker 1: Patriots are Chiefs in the semi finals in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game. So parody galore. We love it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Adam. For the people that don't believe

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Speaker 4: me that I'm a Seahawks fan, go back and check

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Speaker 4: out with the game. The Seahawks played the Jaguars in

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville's like twenty seventeen ish. There was a special ball

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Speaker 4: boy on the sidelines for the Seahawks that day, and

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Speaker 4: he did an amazing job running ball being the ball

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Speaker 4: boy for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: I could see it. I could see it.

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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, I know he just got fired.

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Speaker 5: He's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, he had thirty grade speed. Thirty grade speed as

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Speaker 1: a prospect.

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Speaker 5: Don't don't. Yeah. AJ is biggest waffler of all time.

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Speaker 5: Born in New York from Florida. Hates the Snow, love Chicago,

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Speaker 5: huge Bears fan. Wow, shocker that he's got one of

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Speaker 5: the helmets of the teams in the playoffs. Just whiffle waffle, Waffle,

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Speaker 5: whiffle waffle.

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Speaker 4: You can ask my kids. My kids said if the

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Speaker 4: Bears would have beat the Rams. The question was, Dad,

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Speaker 4: who are you rooting for in the NFC Championship game?

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Speaker 4: And I just said, I guess we'll never know because

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Speaker 4: the Bears blew it against the Rams. But I know

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Speaker 4: I definitely is rooting for last week, and I know

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Speaker 4: I'm rooting for next week. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Should be good one. AJ and his many teams he

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Speaker 2: rooted for.

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Speaker 1: He's such a nice guy. Adam, thanks for the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Watchers, thanks, Adam, appreciate it. This is great creative.

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Speaker 2: But have a good one apcial you too, Thanks kissing

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Speaker 5: Yeah,