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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April one. This is Jaguars Happy Hours

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Speaker 1: and now honorable mention in the two Big Man Dancing Challenge.

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Speaker 1: James Peace, Jack. There's always next year. Welcome in. It's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick. We

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Speaker 1: have a very busy show today. We're one week to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft in two finally a week away. That's

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Speaker 1: seven days of talk for the Jaguars. At number one overall,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghaman standing by, we'll hear. I'm Jaguars

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Speaker 1: defensive line coach Brentson Buckner at four fifteen today, he

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Speaker 1: can bring the energy. I might get a word in edgewise.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if what coach has to offer today at

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Speaker 1: four fifteen we'll get his thoughts unsettling into Jacksonville and

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Speaker 1: the the team that he inherited in the defense, to

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Speaker 1: line room and what could be ahead. And then Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus senior football analyst Seth Galina at four forty

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Speaker 1: or four forty five today we'll get his thoughts in

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft coming up. Jeff Lockman will provide his

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Speaker 1: thoughts now, Hello, Jeff, good afternoon, Good afternoon, Uh Buttoner

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Speaker 1: still looked like he's in playing shape. What are we playing? No,

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Speaker 1: he's he's fine, He's now. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He First of all, he was a good football player.

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Speaker 1: He played for twelve years. He's a good football player

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Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, teams that rivals of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars back in the early days, Dealer for a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good football player for a long period of time. And

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Speaker 1: and uh, when you play the position that he did

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Speaker 1: for twelve years, you did something right. So so that's

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Speaker 1: a I think that's a great coaching staff. Higher. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big believer that coaching matters. I know there are

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Speaker 1: some people thinks that's about the Jimmy's and Joe's and

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Speaker 1: not the exes and the ohs, and I think that

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Speaker 1: they're or is something to that, But I think that

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Speaker 1: coaching does matter. That's why Bill Belichick has been so

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Speaker 1: successful for so long, and that he knows how to

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Speaker 1: put people in the right position. He knows how to

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Speaker 1: put people in position to win. And when you can

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Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna win a lot of football games.

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Speaker 1: So I like, I like good football coaches. They make

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Speaker 1: good football players. They can't make what's the old thing

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Speaker 1: chicken salad out out of you know, out of chicken. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, that's a good good analysis. JP, that's deep.

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Speaker 1: I like that. You're good. You're on it. We're bringing

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Speaker 1: the heat today and we'll he'll bring the heat Rinson

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Speaker 1: Buckner at four fifteen today, we'll hear from the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: defensive line coach to get his thoughts on air. They

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Speaker 1: picking JP did he did? He said, are we we

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Speaker 1: gonna didn't see you know, I don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go there with him, because well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious though, like the process of evaluating all these

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Speaker 1: prospects they come in for visits, Like what do you

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Speaker 1: want to know when you have them in the bill

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Speaker 1: thing for a day? Like I'm curious think, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: like what do you talk about with these everything? And

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Speaker 1: it's very informal. I mean, that's that's the whole reason

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Speaker 1: why they like to bring them in. It's it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit less of you. You know, you

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Speaker 1: can't as an agent or uh whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call a person that prepares a prospect for visits or

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Speaker 1: the combine. You can't prepare a prospect or an individual

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Speaker 1: for seven hours of interaction. Can you do it for

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes? Absolutely? But I think it's that's I think

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Speaker 1: the the environment that the coaches and the and the

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Speaker 1: personnel people like to get these guys in here because

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Speaker 1: they're out of their comfort zone a little bit. They're

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Speaker 1: not as quite quite as prepared. So it's a cool thing.

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Speaker 1: But JP, here we are a week out and you

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Speaker 1: know what we have now entered one week out from

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Speaker 1: the the draft. The twilight zone, the smoke zone, the

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Speaker 1: smoke zone, and when I say the smoke zone, anything

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Speaker 1: or can be perceived as some kind of a smoke

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Speaker 1: screen to throw people off of a trail or two

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Speaker 1: do whatever. All right, So here's my question about smoke screens.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars have the number one pick, they can pick

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Speaker 1: anybody they want to pick. Why would they be putting

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Speaker 1: out smoke screens. What's the point. Well, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't think that. I think that they have somebody in mind.

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Speaker 1: But here's the reality. I think if if they or

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Speaker 1: I don't know who those three guys are. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who they like. But but that's

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence last year. It would be awesome if there

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Speaker 1: get a bounty of draft picks to be able to

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Speaker 1: trade this pick away. But you're not going to be

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Speaker 1: able to do that if you're looking for a bounty

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Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable trading that pick if somebody were

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Speaker 1: like the forty Niners gave up last year to move

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Speaker 1: up to draft Trey Land. It's not a quarterback hall.

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Speaker 1: In return, you have to maybe change your standard alone.

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Speaker 1: Your expectations have to be lowered as far as the

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Speaker 1: an offer to move out of that still overall pick. Now,

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Speaker 1: should they adjust their expectations? I think you have to.

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Speaker 1: I think you have to consider that is the phone

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Speaker 1: But is the compensation at the level of the expectation?

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Speaker 1: And I believe that the team and the Jaguars, anybody

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Speaker 1: in the position that the Jaguars are should because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys at the top that are really good.

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Speaker 1: You have to consider lowering your expectations as far as

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Speaker 1: if that's a big if and deadline spur action we're

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Speaker 1: still a week away. I mean, you could all of

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. No, And uh, you know most

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Speaker 1: of the prognosticators now are some have Hutchinson, some have

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Speaker 1: like the second highest rated player if not the highest

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna go in the top five JP. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you don't know, no idea. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: for me and I become I don't I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: very intriguing the whole process of how teams come to

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Speaker 1: Shatrick with Jeff Logovan, Brentson Buckner coming up, Jaguars defensive

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Speaker 1: When did that change for you? I would say, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: I think ever since I started watching more of the prospects.

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Speaker 1: because I mean, look, I'm I can't watch prospects, which

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Speaker 1: just it makes it more intriguing for me in that fashion.

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Speaker 1: JP offseason program continues, it still Phase one at least

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Speaker 1: for two more days, still working in the classroom, strength

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Speaker 1: and conditioning is key. Right now. Next week they're on

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Speaker 1: the field Phase two three week window. Coaches are allowed

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Speaker 1: on the field for the first time, but it's only

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Speaker 1: individual drills and perfect play air quotes drills allowed. No

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Speaker 1: you just do an individual running around. Yeah, I like

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Speaker 1: I like the format of the off season. I think

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Speaker 1: that the coach and the player could have a little

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Speaker 1: log went back shortly Brentson Buckner with us, Now are

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Speaker 1: you still big man dancing? By the way, we found

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Speaker 1: the video on YouTube the other day and um, there

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Speaker 1: was a promo on like NFL network in the mid

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Speaker 1: two thousands. I guess when the network started. You just

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Speaker 1: I think finished playing or towards the end of your career,

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Speaker 1: and there you go dancing across the stage. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still dance. That's all great d lineman, our skillful dancers,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's a talent. You got

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Speaker 1: to have to be a good defensive line, you know,

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Speaker 1: bad slow feet, don't eat you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You got you gotta stay up on your feet. But

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Speaker 1: I'm always doing. I got three younger kids, so there's

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Speaker 1: always some kind of TikTok dance going on in the house.

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Speaker 1: And you know, growing up a lot, I danced a

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Speaker 1: lot party around. You know, I'm not the average big guy,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I actually think I sort of

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Speaker 1: grew into this bottom like a dB, a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: They just found found out he liked eating a lot too,

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Speaker 1: and that took over. So it short to change my destiny,

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Speaker 1: you know, going down the line. But yes, I danced

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Speaker 1: every noting. And then we're not gonna ask for it now,

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Speaker 1: Well we'll wait until the practice field and all that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll we'll see it come out. So let's

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Speaker 1: get to your group now that you have inherited, you said,

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Speaker 1: the first thing you do is look at free agents.

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Speaker 1: Then you're popping in, hey, what do you have here

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Speaker 1: on the team? At what point when you're up for

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Speaker 1: a job, you know you might be up for a job,

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Speaker 1: and then you layd the job. Do you get into

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Speaker 1: the tape of what you have and and what did

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Speaker 1: you inherit on the defensive line? Here are you always

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Speaker 1: you know before taking a job or if your name

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Speaker 1: is mentioned in their job, Oh, let's let's go see

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Speaker 1: what was in the cupboard. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And you know, going and looking and actually this year

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Speaker 1: had some insight because we actually played Jacksonville, you know,

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Speaker 1: being in Arizona, and you see the guys. Royal Robinson Harris,

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Speaker 1: a guy that I've admired since he was in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy who was an outside linebacker defense

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Speaker 1: and finally grew into his body now becoming a tior

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Speaker 1: defensive alignment. Davon was a guy at Ohio State that

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Speaker 1: I did plenty of background checks on and talking to

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Speaker 1: him in interviewing when he came out. Malcolm Brown has

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Speaker 1: been a player since he's been in this league, you know,

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Speaker 1: playing nose guard, disrupted three technique. UM, I've had UM.

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Speaker 1: I had him as Oakland, as a second second guy,

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Speaker 1: as a second year player, and you know, Art and

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Speaker 1: has really developed, you know over time. Now he's coming

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Speaker 1: into being that player that a lot of people thought

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Speaker 1: he was gonna be coming out of L s U.

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Speaker 1: And he's matured a lot. And you know the violence

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Speaker 1: and the smartness which she's played. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: you start throwing in the free agents and I'll let

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Speaker 1: this go to j J. To Foley. You know, I

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Speaker 1: went to his pro day, you know, doing doing COVID

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Speaker 1: and worked him out. So I got a lot of

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Speaker 1: knowledge being around these guys. And what I found out,

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Speaker 1: you got a good group, got a good group of guys,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I told him from day one, it's

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Speaker 1: no magic trick to being successful, and it's not an

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Speaker 1: easy procedure. You know, we got to come in first

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Speaker 1: of all. You gotta you gotta identify and claim what

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Speaker 1: you did wrong. You gotta you got to own it.

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Speaker 1: You got to own it. Now let's go correct it.

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Speaker 1: Because all the time, as a D line, you want

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Speaker 1: to be the foundation. And I used this analogy. All

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Speaker 1: the time people you drive out see beautiful homes. Everybody

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the decorations, what the paint light,

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Speaker 1: the roof. Don't nobody remember the guys out there that

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Speaker 1: was cultivating the ground, laying the foundation, making sure it

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Speaker 1: was thirdy enough to build his house. And that's what

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Speaker 1: the defensive line is. And what we gotta do is

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Speaker 1: eliminate the cracks and get rid of all the bad pieces.

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Speaker 1: So when we laid his foundation, Mike is gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to build a defense that can stand the test

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Speaker 1: of time because the defensive line has to be the

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Speaker 1: sturdy foundation. Brentson Buckner, whether Chackgar's defensive line coach. A

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Speaker 1: couple more minutes with you here we mentioned Art and Key,

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Speaker 1: one of those free agent pickups, but fully filed a Kasi.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy that came in here, came in the

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Speaker 1: league as a sixth round pick, didn't play his rookie season,

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Speaker 1: worked his way up at the end of his time

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Speaker 1: in New York as a defensive captain, and gets that

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Speaker 1: big free agent deal. It seems like everybody's fired up

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Speaker 1: about what he can bring to this organization and and

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Speaker 1: just hearing him talk the other week. I mean it

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Speaker 1: fits right in with the rest of those good guys

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Speaker 1: in that room. Yes, and fully is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Been admiring him for a while, you know. And I'd

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Speaker 1: like to tell fans and people don't get caught up

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Everybody that gets a helm and as

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Speaker 1: a professional football player, everybody can't go number one. But

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Speaker 1: when you get in there and you see a guy,

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Speaker 1: he gets in and he grinds and he works, and

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Speaker 1: the one thing he's gonna have with him when he

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Speaker 1: comes in it's a chip on his shoulder. Because we

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Speaker 1: all are competitors and we all feel that we should

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Speaker 1: go higher than what we really do. So it drives you.

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Speaker 1: And that's the one thing he did. He built himself

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Speaker 1: up with the Jets. You saw him area get better

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Speaker 1: and better and better. He's a physical guy. He's a

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Speaker 1: hard hat type of guy. All the great players are

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Speaker 1: not the flashy guys that you see on ESPN and

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Speaker 1: you see those guys, it's somebody else that's doing the

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Speaker 1: hard work. And that's where he brings. He brings a

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Speaker 1: he brings a grown man mentality. As as I like

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Speaker 1: to say, he is his knees on his knees and

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Speaker 1: his yes, it's always yes, it's you know, it's straightforward.

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Speaker 1: But it's good in that in that room because you

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Speaker 1: can have the guys that are a little light here

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Speaker 1: and keep it light. But also got to have the

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Speaker 1: one guy when it's time to go to work. It's

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Speaker 1: time to go to work. But you know, he's been great.

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Speaker 1: He's super smart, young man, like very ship, very inquisitive.

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Speaker 1: Most people signed big contracts and they come in and

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Speaker 1: they got all the answers. No, he steady, he steadies

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Speaker 1: challenges a coach, I kind of get better. You know,

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Speaker 1: what do we need to what I need to work on? Coach, Hey,

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Speaker 1: these are some things I saw in my game last year.

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Speaker 1: And as a coach, that's what you want. You know,

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Speaker 1: a guy coming there is begging for knowledge because they

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00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: all got skilled. Knowledge is what they seek. But then

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Speaker 1: you get guys who really seek it and come for

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't help, but ready get your hands

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Speaker 1: on those guys. And I'm not gonna ask you about,

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00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, individual prospects, that's not fair, but I'm curious

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Speaker 1: about the process of evaluating those prospects when yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a combine you're looking at tape from the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, all that, and then they come in for visits.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the name reporter that have allegedly come through here.

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Speaker 1: So what do you want to find out in that

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Speaker 1: day that they're in the building? That you are you

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Speaker 1: just filling in the goals in the evaluation with them?

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Speaker 1: Do you just want to sit them down? How much

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Speaker 1: time do you get with some of these guys when

563
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: they come in? What do you want to know? Personal?

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Speaker 1: I want to feel out if I like you or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to coach somebody I don't like and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be around because you know, we

567
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: spend so much time together, so you got to have

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Speaker 1: that relationship type of guy. I don't want no jerks.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to sit there and coach nobody that

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Speaker 1: he don't like me, I don't like him. We don't

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Speaker 1: have nothing coming. So really, when the guy comes and

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Speaker 1: sit with me, I pretty much know what you can

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Speaker 1: do as a football player. I talked to you and

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Speaker 1: see how you respond. You know, do you have tough skin,

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Speaker 1: do you laugh? What you like to do? It? You

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Speaker 1: got a family? What drives you? Because me as a coach,

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Speaker 1: I got to know all those variables before I coach you.

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Speaker 1: It's not just you walking here. I coach you and

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Speaker 1: you go home. I gotta know if you if something

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00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: wrong with you, something happening at home. I got the

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Speaker 1: baby to know that, and I got to I gotta

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Speaker 1: be sensitive to that because I tell these guys all

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Speaker 1: the time when when you sit in that room as

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Speaker 1: the final jat war, I've entrusted everybody in this organization

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Speaker 1: with their job. I gave it to you because I

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00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: told Doug and I told Trent, this guy can help

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Speaker 1: us win. Same thing. You got to trust your family

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Speaker 1: to me that I can give you everything you need

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Speaker 1: to take care of your family. And so I want

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Speaker 1: to see those guys who are gonna be ready to

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Speaker 1: reciprocate that. You know, and some guys coming here and

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Speaker 1: be great talent. But I don't really want to coach

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Speaker 1: this guy because he's gonna be a me guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: in my room, it's gonna be us. You know, on

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Speaker 1: this team is gonna be us. And so when you

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Speaker 1: sit down, when you get that, then when you go

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Speaker 1: back to Doug and Trent, hey, he's a Jaguar, he's

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Speaker 1: an US guy. It's all about what can he do

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Speaker 1: for the team. He wants to be a star in

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Speaker 1: his role. He don't have to be the main attraction.

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Speaker 1: I tell the guys in the room, Tito Jackson never

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00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: let us on. But he got very grammy that Michael

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Speaker 1: got when it was Jackson five. He got every he

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Speaker 1: got everywhere. So sometimes you have to be the background single.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get all the wards. You might not get

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Speaker 1: the hold the mic, but you get all the benefits

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Speaker 1: and those the guys that you really want. When you're

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Speaker 1: a team, it's about the it's about the team. Yes

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Speaker 1: there were one, two, three, four, five and the Jackson five.

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Speaker 1: I have last to checks right. Yes, yes, that's a

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Speaker 1: it's a team effort. How exciting? Now next week final

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00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: thought here, next week's phase two and you're on the

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Speaker 1: field with the guy. There's no helmets. It's not real

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00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: football yet, but it's as close as week better a

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00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: long time. How excited are you to actually get out

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Speaker 1: on the grass with this team. Um, I'm super excited.

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Speaker 1: Because knowledge is not acknowledge until the supply. So we're

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Speaker 1: in the we're in the room. I can tell you

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Speaker 1: about the technique. I can show you film, but not

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Speaker 1: let me go see you do it. That's another evaluation step.

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Speaker 1: That's another way to sit there getting it on film,

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Speaker 1: making sure you know everything is right. Well, let's correct

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Speaker 1: your step. So, but that's football. Football is played in

624
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the grass. It's on the grasses. You out there, you're

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: getting the field back into it and that's when the

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00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: excitement comes. And that's another valued process, evaluation process. With me.

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Speaker 1: I won't see the guys that look at it as

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Speaker 1: I'm not obligated to be here. This is an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for me to get better every day. That's when you

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00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: know you got a good bunch when they come here

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Speaker 1: and they're they're ready to go to work. And what

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Speaker 1: my job is and what I pride myself and I

633
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: want to make it fun because I want you to

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Speaker 1: baby to do something Thursday that you couldn't do on Wednesday.

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00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: So you look forward to going out there and getting

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00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: better than before you knew it. You could start to

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00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: see what's coming on the horizon because you're putting in

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Speaker 1: all the work. Coach is great to see you. Thanksfually

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Speaker 1: inside you might have I think you auditioned well. I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a regular segment on some of

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Speaker 1: these shows. I thank you very much. I love man.

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Speaker 1: I'm ha to be a jag War man. I told

643
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Speaker 1: the guys before, I've never won as a visited player

644
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: on the other sideline, so I know what Duval County

645
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Speaker 1: is about when these jack Ars a rocket and roller.

646
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Speaker 1: So that's look look forward to doing. Former Steeler actually

647
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers. You you played pretty well a couple

648
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Speaker 1: of games against the Jacks, but I lost the first

649
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Speaker 1: one ever down here. Hurt everybody. You know, it was

650
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Speaker 1: hard coming down here playing this Jack Wars ere loone

651
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Speaker 1: them years though, But it's great now I'm on this side,

652
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Speaker 1: so let's get it going. It's coming soon. The Jaguars

653
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Speaker 1: are future focused and ready for a new look in

654
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Speaker 1: twenty to join us at the bank this season, lock

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Speaker 1: in your seats at Jaguars dot com. Slash tickets were

656
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Speaker 1: called nine oh four six three three two thousand. Jeff

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Speaker 1: Logman back in a moment, Seth Galita a pro football

658
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Speaker 1: focus coming up shortly and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lagman.

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Speaker 1: Back with us now Brentson Buckner, the Jaguars defensive line coach. Yes,

662
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Speaker 1: I told him at the end, I think you passed

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Speaker 1: the audition. We're looking forward to interviewing him a lot now.

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Speaker 1: He's fun. He's a lot of fun. And uh, I

665
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Speaker 1: got kind of hold against him a little bit that

666
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Speaker 1: he's a Clemson guy. Oh yeah, you know Clemson used

667
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Speaker 1: to beat up my Virginia Cavaliers quite often while after Yeah,

668
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that that wasn't just when you

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Speaker 1: were there. Yeah, but he's uh, you go back just

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Speaker 1: real quick. People remember him probably, and he mentioned his

671
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: days with his Steelers. I think the most dominant period

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Speaker 1: that he had as a player was when he was

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Speaker 1: in Carolina when he played alongside Julius Peppers and I

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Speaker 1: think it was Rucker and then uh, I pulled it

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Speaker 1: up Chris Jenkins. I mean those four guys that were

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Speaker 1: in Carolina, and that was when Carolina was really good

677
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Speaker 1: and they went to the Super Bowl and had dom Capers.

678
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean they were they were bawling, and so Buckner

679
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: was a part of that defensive line. It was so

680
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Speaker 1: good about that. So his final thought there, hey, you know,

681
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: never played well in Jacksonville. It's it's true, like he

682
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Speaker 1: he only was part of one winning team in one, two, three, four,

683
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Speaker 1: five trips to Jacksonville. Losses with the Steelers in lost

684
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers in ninety six, was Cincinnati in nineties seven.

685
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Speaker 1: Here we dominated Cincinnati to lost with San Francisco at

686
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Speaker 1: ninety nine here forty one to three, and then Carolina

687
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Speaker 1: beat the jackson oh three here in Jacksonville. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, he did have a whole lot of success.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, that's why it's supposed to be home

690
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Speaker 1: field advantage. You're supposed to have that here, right, I mean,

691
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Speaker 1: that's way it's supposed to be. Yes, And I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to see his interaction with this group of need

693
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Speaker 1: to get back for sure. Hey, it's one week till

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft logs. Pro Football Focus recently launched a

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Speaker 1: special podcast here. He's entitled hutch Guess who it's about

696
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Speaker 1: um Aidan Hutches. Yes, correct, It's about his childhood, the

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Speaker 1: early years at Michigan, and the incredible one season he

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Speaker 1: had as a Heisman finalist. Seth Galina is senior football

699
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Speaker 1: analysts with Pro Football Focus. He's been locked into the

700
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Speaker 1: draft and with a week to go, he joins us

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Speaker 1: on the program. Right now, Hey, Seth, it's nice to

702
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Speaker 1: talk to you. Thanks for the time today and anytime.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of wearing a I don't know what color

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing. I think it's kind of close to teal,

705
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Speaker 1: So I think I'm, um, you know, trying to lock

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Speaker 1: in here with the Jaguars stuff. Well, we appreciate that. Um,

707
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars for a second straight year of

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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. Everybody's watching the Jaguars right

709
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Speaker 1: now to see what happens, because, as we were talking

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Speaker 1: about log An earlier, it's kind of clear as mud

711
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: right now, there's all these different morks with different names.

712
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Speaker 1: What's your feeling right now? I mean, I still think

713
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Speaker 1: Hutchison is going to be the pick. I do think

714
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Speaker 1: where there's smoke, there's fire in regards to Travon Walker

715
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Speaker 1: potentially being the pick. I really, I mean, like I

716
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Speaker 1: like I said, I do think it's gonna be Hutchison.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can really go wrong with this

718
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Speaker 1: pick in the sense that there's I don't know, I

719
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Speaker 1: want to say six to seven players who this season

720
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Speaker 1: could be a number one overall pick. So then you

721
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Speaker 1: just got to figure out, Okay, what position do we

722
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Speaker 1: feel like we need? Um a player at the most,

723
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Speaker 1: it seems for the Jaguars to be at edge because

724
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Speaker 1: you're hearing about Hutchinson and obviously you're hearing about spont

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Speaker 1: Walker play in the same position ever take so I

726
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Speaker 1: think that's where they go. But I don't think you

727
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: can go wrong. Um. At the end of the day,

728
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Speaker 1: you've got to hope you pick the right one. But

729
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: in terms of the process and everything, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: you have your court of back already. UM. If honestly,

731
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Speaker 1: if you want to go safety, you want to go corner,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be fine too, but I'll tackle

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Speaker 1: for sure. They could go UM, but obviously it seems

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Speaker 1: like Hutchinson is the pick. So if you if you

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Speaker 1: look at these tackles that are in the in the

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Speaker 1: draft and mainly at the top of the draft, and

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Speaker 1: it seems to be two of them, which one do

738
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Speaker 1: you like the best? Do you like the one from

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Speaker 1: North Carolina State or the one from Alabama. I like

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Speaker 1: the one from Mississippi State the best. Yeah, I think

741
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Speaker 1: there's I think I would put all three of them

742
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Speaker 1: in that kind of Tier one group of tackles that

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00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: to me, they're all top ten picks. And so just

744
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: because I like Charles Cross the best doesn't mean it

745
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. Really, I think you have to live

746
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Speaker 1: in a world where let's say the Jaguars do take

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Speaker 1: an edge player at at at one, wherever you are

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00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: picking after that, you're just you're just saying, hey, let

749
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Speaker 1: me get one of those guys, and they're all do

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Speaker 1: something a little different. Obviously with with Charles Cross, um,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was the best tackle in Now we

752
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: have issues in twenty nine and twenty You can play

753
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Speaker 1: those off when you look when you look at the

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00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: history of him there at Missipy State, you can play

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Speaker 1: them off a bit coaching change and all that stuff.

756
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Speaker 1: With a Quandu and Neil you have a kind of

757
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: a bigger sample size of really good play. Um. But

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, Cross was a Cross was incredible

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Speaker 1: in one I think once they figured out what was

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Speaker 1: going on there, playing a different system than he thought

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Speaker 1: he was going to be playing in his career in

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State as they went to Mike Leech from Joe moorehead.

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Speaker 1: So I thought he was he was. I really thought

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Speaker 1: he was amazing in one, but the other two are

765
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Speaker 1: great too. Like I said, top all three of them

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Speaker 1: are top ten players. Be happy whichever whichever one you get.

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00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I think one of the most interesting prospects far as

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Speaker 1: where he will go in the draft, is the safety

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Speaker 1: from Notre Dame South Hamilton. He seems to have kind

770
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Speaker 1: of a or seems to be kind of a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a cross between the safety and a linebacker.

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Speaker 1: He's got the size or at least the height, it

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Speaker 1: seems like to be like a linebacker. He's got very

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Speaker 1: good ball skills. Many people have him rated as the

775
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Speaker 1: best prospect in the draft. But when I look at

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Speaker 1: the forty yard dash time, the speed watching his film,

777
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Speaker 1: I don't see it. Uh, what do you think of him?

778
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Speaker 1: And where do you think he'll go? Yeah, I wonder

779
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Speaker 1: if he's you know, with that forty time. Now, I

780
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: will say that his flying twenty I just saw tweet

781
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Speaker 1: about this day actually, so it kind of eased my

782
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: concerns a bit. Where his his flying twenties of the

783
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: last twenty yards of his forty were very good. So

784
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Speaker 1: maybe it's an acceleration thing, which obviously, you know you're

785
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Speaker 1: a safety, you want to have a great acceleration, but

786
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: clearly something is is needs to be worked on in

787
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: in terms of his start, but he is. I think

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Speaker 1: he is still a fast player, and you can kind

789
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Speaker 1: of see them in the film. What I like about

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's it really is the modern safety, right He's not

791
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Speaker 1: locked into being either a deep state key or an

792
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: in the box safety or a man coverage safety or

793
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: something like that, right, I think he can do a

794
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I thought what they did at Notre

795
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Speaker 1: Dame with him, you know, Clark Lee was the defensive

796
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Speaker 1: coordinator one year and the Marcus Dreaman the next year,

797
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Speaker 1: I thought, just like moving him around, you know, playing

798
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Speaker 1: week safety. I think that's going to be a very

799
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Speaker 1: interesting position going forward in the NFL. Schematically being able

800
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Speaker 1: to double weak side receivers, being able to come down

801
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: to the box when you need to, being able to

802
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Speaker 1: play in the deep center field when you have to,

803
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: but again not locked into a certain role, just being

804
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Speaker 1: versatile enough to do that. And I think another guy

805
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Speaker 1: like that who honestly might fall. I don't think you

806
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Speaker 1: should fall in the second round. But Lewis sne from

807
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: Georgia is another player who has that versatility you really

808
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Speaker 1: have two really good safeties in this in this draft class.

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Speaker 1: Sascalina from Pro Football Focus give him a follow at

810
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Speaker 1: PFF Underscore SETH. Couple thoughts with you here before we

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Speaker 1: let you go here. You know, Jaguars have the thirty

812
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Speaker 1: third overall pick two. Um, they're still kind of looking

813
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: at feels like for that deep threat receiver. First off,

814
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a pretty deep wide receiver class

815
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: at least from what you see and read. Maybe not

816
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: at number one overall, but thirty three that could be

817
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: in play. Well the Jacks, could they find another interior

818
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: offensive lineman somewhere at that point to like a lender bomb?

819
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Does he fall that far? That's two big questions in one.

820
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: Let's start with wide receiver. What's what do you make

821
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Speaker 1: over all of this class and could that be in

822
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Speaker 1: play at thirty three? Yeah, I think wide receiver is

823
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: one of these position groups that not just this year,

824
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Speaker 1: and we've seen the past few years, and honestly, we're

825
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna see the next ten years or so where every

826
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: class of wide receivers coming out is going to be

827
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Speaker 1: a very good class just because this is how football

828
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Speaker 1: is played now. High school kids are in past heavy offenses.

829
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: They're going to play seven on seven in the springtime,

830
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: they're getting all these reps, and then obviously they're going

831
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: to college, and you know, college offenses are also um,

832
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, getting past heavier as we go on. So

833
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: you're going to just have a lot of receivers, and

834
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: it seems like we're we continue to find really good

835
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: ones in that twenty to pick five type of range.

836
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: So in this one, you know, there's obviously you know,

837
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: you're thinking, you know, down the field vertical threats. Jamison

838
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: Williams is the top probably the top guy in this class.

839
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Obviously we're not thinking about the Jaguars getting him. He

840
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: should go on the team somewhere. Someone like Christian Watson

841
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, another flyer um there could be

842
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: available at thirty three, and the sky More from Western

843
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: Mission could be available at thirty three, another speed receiver

844
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: down the field. I think the interesting with the receiver

845
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: class this year is when does the first receiver get taken.

846
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: I see them all as guys who in that Tier

847
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: one group who would be somewhere in the teens, But

848
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: the team feels like they need a guy early. And

849
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen this before, Garrett Wilson in the

850
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Ohioud State to the Jets at four.

851
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, that might start the run. And

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Speaker 1: now if you're the Jaguars at thirty three saying hey,

853
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Speaker 1: we need a receiver, um, some of the guys you

854
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: might like might be already gone. So if every year

855
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Speaker 1: it seems like the first round has some type of surprise,

856
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Speaker 1: whether it be a surprise from a team trading up,

857
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Speaker 1: or a player being selected, or even possibly a player

858
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: that was really undervalued who ended up being maybe one

859
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Speaker 1: of the best players in the draft in the first round,

860
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Speaker 1: do you see any surprises on the horizon. I mean,

861
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Speaker 1: I know there's a player that I really like, um

862
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Speaker 1: the defensive end from Penn State, Arnold Evi Ketty. I

863
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: think his there's I've seen such a wide range in

864
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Speaker 1: terms of, you know, ranking on a big board, even

865
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Speaker 1: through mock drafts. I truly believe it's a top fifteen

866
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Speaker 1: overall type of player, and it is a really good

867
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Speaker 1: edge rusher class as well. So the second to me

868
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Speaker 1: he falls past even twenty, you're looking at a guy

869
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: who me is great value and it's honestly going to

870
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Speaker 1: be a starter. Look, who knows, but I feel like

871
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: he's going to be a starter right away. So that

872
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: would be my surprise. UM, either surprised that he goes

873
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Speaker 1: as high as I think you should go. UM if

874
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Speaker 1: another if you know an NFL team feel the same way,

875
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Speaker 1: or this is a surprise where he goes in the

876
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: late first or second round and then he's putting up

877
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Speaker 1: sacks from day one whatever team he goes for. Well,

878
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Speaker 1: you're on the record now, we're gonna hold you to that, Seth.

879
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Come Draft night a week from now. What do you

880
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: have coming up in the next week getting ready for

881
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: the draft? Seth, Yeah, we have. Obviously you guys talked

882
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: about it the hutch Podcast. You can go on PF

883
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: or go on YouTube and find that and listen to

884
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: the Future Jaguar I I would assume, and Hutchinson talked

885
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: about his life and yeah, I'm just where. We have

886
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Speaker 1: our draft show Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, all day

887
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: draft recap show Sunday. So it's all draft, all the

888
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: time at PFF right now, and no doubt about it.

889
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking some time out at PFF. Underscore Seth.

890
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: Seth Galina from Pro Football Focus we'll talk to you soon. Seth,

891
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: see you guys. We're back in just a moment. Blogs.

892
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna go around the NFL and we'll like recap

893
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: some of the things we just heard from Seth there

894
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: about the Jaguars. I think it's an interesting guy to

895
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: talk with and p FF is uh, it's a very

896
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: different way of evaluating things sometimes because they use a

897
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: lot of metrics. They don't do you even know what

898
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: that is? Well, I've got three minutes to find out

899
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: during this metrics you know, I was told there would

900
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: be no math. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

901
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: Digital Network. We're back at Jaguars Happy Hour. If you're

902
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: watching us on Jaguars dot Com or the Jaguars social

903
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: channels loves those are Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. You're looking

904
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: live at the Football Performance Center outside t i a

905
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: a bank field. Concrete blocks are going up, and I

906
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: mean multiple stories worth of concrete blocks. They keep expanding

907
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: the footprint of concrete being boored and things are happening,

908
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: which is cool and it's uh, it's it's very cool. Hey.

909
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Speaker 1: By the way, you mentioned YouTube, Yes, did you see

910
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: the Hunt? The Hunt? Yes, absolutely fantastic. Unbelievable. The next edition.

911
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm just a little while away, I think, But yeah,

912
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: you can check out the first two episodes of The Hunt.

913
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: But the incredible behind the scenes access granted by the

914
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: football department and getting ready for the combine and then

915
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: free agency and everything around it. Access like that. I

916
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think for for the longest period of time,

917
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: the NFL teams always thought that it was just you know,

918
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: I can't let anybody in as you know, you know,

919
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: they'll figure out what we're doing. I mean, come on,

920
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: it's not rocket science, it's football. And then I think

921
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: the access it just it just makes fans even more

922
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: interested in the great sport. You don't show the draft

923
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Speaker 1: board or anything, and it would be nice. I mean what,

924
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know. I'd love to see

925
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: everybody's draft board after the fact. Would be kind of fun, right,

926
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: Hey see who was ranked? Right? What what I mean

927
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: telling honestly, wouldn't it be cool if you had, if

928
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: if the NFL required every team to turn in their

929
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: draft board before the draft, and you had all the

930
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: teams draft boards, you know, and not not from the

931
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: standpoint of trying to tell somebody what somebody's gonna pick,

932
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: but just out of curiosity about how different people are valued. Well,

933
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: you know what would happen. Then you would send the

934
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Speaker 1: fake board in and the real board would be hidden

935
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Speaker 1: behind some curtain. That's what would happen maybe, but I

936
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: mean it would be it would be very interesting to

937
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Speaker 1: compare just the different assigned values that they have for

938
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: different players. I mean, because I mean, and it has

939
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: to be extremely varied, right, I mean that's human beings

940
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: are different. They think different. By the way, this afternoon,

941
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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew put out his second mock draft. Who

942
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: do you have a Number? One? Trayvon Trayvon Walker? Still

943
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: he's sticking with it, sticking with Walker. I just I

944
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. He's got great closing speed,

945
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: he's strong, got super strong hands, he's very raw as

946
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, and he's got positional flexibility. I think

947
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: he's a very good player. But the production, you know,

948
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: year after year after year, I don't know if it's

949
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: been there, but I can tell you this, he's gonna

950
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: be a really good football player, really good football player.

951
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: And I think he's more of a of a natural

952
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: three four end. And then once they get to four down.

953
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: He can play inside, he can play outside, he can

954
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: do either one. Let's go around the National Football League.

955
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Speaker 1: Only a couple of nuggets today. The NFL schedule announcement

956
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: date has been announced. A lot of announcing going on,

957
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, because they're gonna, you know, put it over

958
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: a few different days. May fourth, they will announce the

959
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: international games, of course, including the Jaguars at Whimbley, and

960
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: then May twelve, the full schedule released. There are a

961
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Speaker 1: couple other dates where the first game of the year's

962
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: announced and then select games. So it's a long drawn

963
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: out announcements create snow. I mean that's yes, it does.

964
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: The The NFL off season has become the NFL out

965
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: of season and the information still comes falling. And that's

966
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: that's what makes the NFL great is free agency and

967
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: the draft and the schedule announcement. It makes it makes

968
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: it very interesting all year. Deebo Samuel requesting a trade

969
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Speaker 1: from the forty Niners, show me the money, would you, uh,

970
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Speaker 1: what would you give up? I mean, would you draft pickwise? Yeah?

971
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Speaker 1: Or would you even want to? Oh? Well, I mean

972
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: he's a great player and he's got great flexibility. I

973
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: would love to have him. But what's what's the cost

974
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Speaker 1: take the Niners gonna give him up? Come on, No,

975
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Speaker 1: they don't want to give him up. But what's the

976
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Speaker 1: cost your left arm? No, I'm not giving up my

977
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Speaker 1: left arm. Probably what's gonna need it? Yeah? Loves great show,

978
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Speaker 1: Seth Galina Pro Football Focus. Thanks for his time and

979
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you on Jaguars dot Com

980
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: next Thurston Yeah, and Jaguars Radio. Oh yeah, we'll do

981
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: the show. Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to that. It'll

982
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: be what six to seven to midnight, seven mines seven

983
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Speaker 1: to midnight, Me and Frank and lots of other guests,

984
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Speaker 1: and you will be a part of those guests. Joe Fortunado,

985
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Speaker 1: Brent rab Brentson Buckner, Joe Fortunado, I'm JP, Shadrick, Jeff Logerman.

986
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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.