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Speaker 1: We got ric o'dondell and Devin White joining us a
Speaker 1: little later in the show. But first, Ocho Tua apologized
Speaker 1: for criticizing teammates for being late to a player's only meeting.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say.
Speaker 1: Here's this full statement.
Speaker 3: Made a mistake, and I'm owning up to that right now.
Speaker 3: You know, I talked to guys on.
Speaker 4: The team about it, talk to the leaders about it,
Speaker 4: and you know that.
Speaker 5: They know my heart, They know that the intent was right.
Speaker 5: But no matter the intent.
Speaker 3: You know, the intent can be right, but when things get.
Speaker 6: Misconstrued or however the media wants to portray it, you
Speaker 6: know that that leads a void of silence and a
Speaker 6: lot of questions.
Speaker 2: For the guys on our team now being one.
Speaker 5: In five, you know, we talk a lot about all right.
Speaker 3: We got to get this going. We got to get
Speaker 3: this going, come in excited to go to work, forget
Speaker 3: about the noise.
Speaker 6: And I feel like I just added onto that fork
Speaker 6: for our guys, you know, for for myself, I got
Speaker 6: to look at myself as as the leader protecting the team.
Speaker 6: I don't feel like I I did that to the.
Speaker 7: Best of my abilities.
Speaker 3: I felt like I let the emotions of the game
Speaker 3: get to me after the game.
Speaker 5: And you know that's.
Speaker 3: Something that I can learn from as a leader on
Speaker 3: this team, and what happens in house should be protected
Speaker 3: and none of that should have gotten now and so
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 6: Publicly apologize about that.
Speaker 2: I want to move.
Speaker 5: Forward, and now I want to focus on keeping brothers.
Speaker 8: Hey, I love Tour. I love him to death, you know,
Speaker 8: I love I love what he stands for. I love
Speaker 8: what he represents. Being one and five, you also have
Speaker 8: to be self aware.
Speaker 9: It's all.
Speaker 8: It's all about being self aware. If you have meetings,
Speaker 8: if you have things that go inside, go on in house.
Speaker 8: They have to stay in house. You should know that,
Speaker 8: whether you five and one or WAYD one and five,
Speaker 8: there's certain things that you don't talk about to the media.
Speaker 8: As a quarterback, as a leader of that team, as
Speaker 8: a person with that C on your chest, it is
Speaker 8: your duty to protect those that are in that locker room.
Speaker 8: It's your duty so to put it out there in
Speaker 8: the media and say what some of the other players
Speaker 8: are doing, I haven't done.
Speaker 9: That is you know what.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna use the word. I'm not gonna use
Speaker 8: that word tonight. But it's throwing people under the bus.
Speaker 8: You can't do that.
Speaker 9: You just can't.
Speaker 1: You can't always be truthful. Sometimes it's okay not to
Speaker 1: tell the truth. Here is the problem that I have
Speaker 1: you you got you got me, you got me No
Speaker 1: but but but in all honesty, yes, sir. The only
Speaker 1: problem I have with this now the media misconstrued it. Yes,
Speaker 1: how do the players Okay, if you have said what
Speaker 1: you said, the meters didn't say anything, your teammates heard
Speaker 1: what you said. So if anybody misconstrued it, they misconstrued
Speaker 1: it because.
Speaker 7: The media didn't put no spin on it.
Speaker 1: All they did was have a bunch of microphones and
Speaker 1: tape recorders there. You said what you said, unprompted, yes, unprompted.
Speaker 1: So and to use O your's term, he drys nich
Speaker 1: ain't nobody asked him? Didn't players come late for practice?
Speaker 1: Was you?
Speaker 7: When you had a player's only meeting?
Speaker 1: The media didn't know nothing about it, didn't know anything
Speaker 1: about that meeting.
Speaker 7: You brought that up.
Speaker 1: And then you also brought up that there are players
Speaker 1: that were late or didn't cut or didn't rival on time,
Speaker 1: or maybe didn't you come to the meeting at all.
Speaker 7: You did that? How would it you see?
Speaker 1: That's the problem that I have just on up to
Speaker 1: it and says, you know what I was wrong? Don't
Speaker 1: add the media. The media didn't do anything. All they
Speaker 1: did was put the put the microphones in front of you,
Speaker 1: and you volunteer that. So, in other word, you dry
Speaker 1: snitch unprompted information that no one asked you for.
Speaker 7: Now, with that being said, there was no choice.
Speaker 1: And I saw in the chat someone said that that
Speaker 1: was Tom Brady or or or Troy Aikman, everybody would
Speaker 1: have been there on time. I told y'all that the
Speaker 1: other day they don't respect them as a leader. But
Speaker 1: y'all don't want to see when because I'm not in
Speaker 1: the locker room. You don't think I know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. But I'm a leader, and I guarantee you
Speaker 1: every time I've called a meeting, which wasn't very many,
Speaker 1: or anytime I had something god showed up on time, y'all,
Speaker 1: there was a respect level there that was earned, not
Speaker 1: what I deserved based on what I had done. I
Speaker 1: had earned the right to call a meeting based on
Speaker 1: the way I conducted myself, the way I played, the
Speaker 1: way I practiced, the way I met, and what I
Speaker 1: had accomplished.
Speaker 7: So I had earned their respect.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, And you know what, matter of fact,
Speaker 8: if you do, if they did have a meeting that
Speaker 8: they didn't show up to or they weren't on time,
Speaker 8: and this could be a tall tail and why they didn't, Yeah,
Speaker 8: for sure, what happens. Look, I mean so that there
Speaker 8: might be an underlying issue that we don't even know
Speaker 8: about that has been going on, or.
Speaker 1: To a fact, Oh well, let let's keep it as
Speaker 1: two guys that spent time in locker rooms, yes, that
Speaker 1: played the game at an extreme high level.
Speaker 7: He's it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 8: And you know what, even though he came out and apologized,
Speaker 8: it's too late now because how do you think that
Speaker 8: tastes that bad taste that's in those players' mouths that
Speaker 8: you talked about that know they were late or one
Speaker 8: on time to that meeting.
Speaker 9: How do you think the other teammates feel?
Speaker 8: How do you think they're looking at even though he's
Speaker 8: a quarterback, how do you think they're viewing you?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 8: It's not the same unk and it will never be
Speaker 8: the same. So this makes everything even worse on top
Speaker 8: of being one in five. Yes, get to forget the
Speaker 8: football aspect, because now you open up a whole new
Speaker 8: can of worms.
Speaker 1: I give you a prime example, O Joe. You in
Speaker 1: the courtroom, Yeah, one of the attorneys says something. The
Speaker 1: other attorney stands up and says, I object.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: The judge says, sustained. How do I make the jury
Speaker 1: unhear what they heard? They heard it. Whether it's sustained
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: Too late or he'll allow it.
Speaker 1: I've already heard what that man wanted me to get
Speaker 1: out here or she wanted to say so, you can't
Speaker 1: make me unheal what I heard. I get the apology.
Speaker 1: The best apologies change behavior. We're going to see moving forward,
Speaker 1: the greater the player, the greater the leeguay is that's
Speaker 1: with anything. Yeah, First of all, when you say Troy
Speaker 1: Eigman and Tom Brady, first of all too, it is
Speaker 1: not on that level. Second of all, they've garnered so
Speaker 1: much respect. You see how the players went the bat
Speaker 1: for Troy tom Brady. That's a whole different animal. We
Speaker 1: don't ever put tom Brady. Tom Brady, he's reserved. There
Speaker 1: might have been three or four other guys in the
Speaker 1: history of the game that garner the respect that tom
Speaker 1: Brady to.
Speaker 7: It isn't one of those three or four guys.
Speaker 1: With that being said, you have to be mindful Ocho,
Speaker 1: because and this is what I tell guys that I think.
Speaker 7: At some point in time will be leaders.
Speaker 1: You don't know who's actually watching you, what you do,
Speaker 1: what you say, how you do it. But all I
Speaker 1: can tell you is this, if they see you behave
Speaker 1: in a certain type of manner, and you make money
Speaker 1: and you get things, they'll behave that same way because
Speaker 1: they believe that is acceptable behavior. So even though you
Speaker 1: don't know who's watching, if they're watching, or why they're watching,
Speaker 1: just always try to put your best foot forward. That's
Speaker 1: all you can do. He will learn from this, hopefully.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe that a guy that
Speaker 1: played at Alabama played at such a high level, it's
Speaker 1: such a prestigious program, wouldn't know that you can't throw
Speaker 1: teammates under the bus that sometimes, Oh Joe sometimes look
Speaker 1: and we talked about this o' shoe all the time.
Speaker 1: As a coach, sometimes you got to lie to your players,
Speaker 1: even if you don't think they can win. Hey, we
Speaker 1: can beat these teams.
Speaker 7: We can beat them. Hey we do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta lie because sometimes it calls great, hurt,
Speaker 1: harm or embarrassment, and it might have calls all three. Now,
Speaker 1: like you said, how do we get that back? I'm
Speaker 1: not for sure because I'm thinking, Bro, when you go home,
Speaker 1: you be pillow talking like a mofolk.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is no, there's no way. There's no way
Speaker 8: to get that back. Huh, there's no way to get
Speaker 8: it back. There's only one thing that cures everything, there's
Speaker 8: one thing that cures everything.
Speaker 9: If they could do that my point exactly, whining is
Speaker 9: the only thing that canna cure it.
Speaker 8: But I still think they won't view him the same
Speaker 8: in that same light. No matter what, you're gonna apologize.
Speaker 8: You can say everything, you can talk to him quite
Speaker 8: you know, privately. But once you leave that locker room
Speaker 8: and you out of that space that's supposed to give
Speaker 8: you worry about any of the bullshit you have to
Speaker 8: do it with on the outside world.
Speaker 9: Right now, you gotta deal with it.
Speaker 7: When I come to work my own quarterback, right.
Speaker 9: Nah, man, they never gonna look at it the same.
Speaker 1: That's why I say that's what quarterbacks if you notice
Speaker 1: the most, the great quarterbacks, no matter how good they
Speaker 1: play or how bad they play, they all always take responsibility.
Speaker 1: When Peyton Manning they lost the game, Peyton man said,
Speaker 1: I gotta play better. It's on Don Brady says, I
Speaker 1: got to play better. Guys John l When guys would
Speaker 1: always say I need to play better, they never said
Speaker 1: even though they played great, a drop pass here, mister
Speaker 1: Simon there, the defense gave up points late. They always
Speaker 1: put the owners on themselves. That's a part of being
Speaker 1: a leader. If you're the leader, even though somebody made
Speaker 1: a mistake, I'll take it.
Speaker 7: That's on me. Now.
Speaker 1: I'll call them and say, hey, we need to make
Speaker 1: sure this doesn't happen again, make sure we get it corrected.
Speaker 1: But this is on me, and that's what Tuwa needs
Speaker 1: to understand. You would like to think a guy that's
Speaker 1: been the quarterback for an extended period of time at levels.
Speaker 1: He's a high school quarterback, normally the quarterback is the leader.
Speaker 1: Not always, but the majority of the time. I would
Speaker 1: say eighty percent of the time because a lot of
Speaker 1: time the best player is the quarterback, Oh Joe, So
Speaker 1: he's normally the leader in college.
Speaker 7: It probably kicks up eighty five percent in the pros.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever see the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: that didn't have the sea since they've been allowed it.
Speaker 7: Have you?
Speaker 1: I haven't either, So with that being said, he just
Speaker 1: has to be mindful. It's a mindfield of what's going on,
Speaker 1: and it's easy to get frustrated, especially with like you said,
Speaker 1: when you're losing, you're one and five, because if they're
Speaker 1: they're five and one and they're six and oh, ain't
Speaker 1: nobody we're not having late even if guys are late
Speaker 1: to practice, ain't nobody said a word.
Speaker 9: We're not having this conversation.
Speaker 1: You should have this in the bud a year ago
Speaker 1: or two years ago when you were winning and you
Speaker 1: were allowing guys to show up late. That's when you
Speaker 1: nip it in the bud. But you allow things on
Speaker 1: a win. Now, it's a problem.
Speaker 7: When you lose.
Speaker 1: You see, when you lose, Ojoe, it's not how we
Speaker 1: play it on the field, it's all the other things,
Speaker 1: all the other things. Like I said, you don't win
Speaker 1: a football game on Sunday. You win a football game
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. That's when you win the games in
Speaker 1: your how we meet, how do we practice? How do
Speaker 1: we study? How did we prepare? Did we get treatment
Speaker 1: like we're supposed to. If we got a little nagging,
Speaker 1: did we did we take care of it before it
Speaker 1: became a big issue?
Speaker 7: Right? Hopefully to a learned this lesson. Hopefully he does.
Speaker 1: It is tough because if they don't start winning games,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And I and look like I said, the greatest apology
Speaker 1: is changed behavior. We're going to see go ahead, O right,
Speaker 1: you change behavior.
Speaker 8: Well, it's not changed behavior off the off the field,
Speaker 8: it's the change behavior on the field.
Speaker 9: You know what the best sorry is for his teammates?
Speaker 8: Your performance, Yes, and how you playing, being the difference maker,
Speaker 8: being that you are the quarterback, being that you do
Speaker 8: make the most money on the field.
Speaker 9: That means your level of play has to be up here.
Speaker 8: It has to be eons above everybody else, especially when
Speaker 8: you come out of you do something like this, Well,
Speaker 8: hold on, you can't be stinging out the joint. No,
Speaker 8: then going in front of the camera and tell him
Speaker 8: what we got going on behind closed doors.
Speaker 9: And then looking like you know what out on the
Speaker 9: turf fright, No, you can't, you can't. He had thrown
Speaker 9: You got the whole locker room looking at you.
Speaker 8: Funny, I'm telling you, and I'm not even in this.
Speaker 9: I'm telling you. He could fix it. But he could
Speaker 9: fix it with his plate, with his plate, it would
Speaker 9: be all smiles.
Speaker 1: If even if he would have been wrong, even if
Speaker 1: he had thrown for four hundred yards and four touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he exacerbated the term aggravate, which means to make worse.
Speaker 1: He aggravated the situation. It was already bad ojo. But
Speaker 1: he aggravated the situation. Why ojoe? Because he threw three picks.
Speaker 1: So he made a situation that was bad. He made
Speaker 1: it worse with his plate.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, listen, it was already a fire, right, it was
Speaker 9: already a fire.
Speaker 7: Yep, So it was already fire.
Speaker 9: He took the goddamn gasoline and threw it on the fire.
Speaker 7: Ship.
Speaker 9: All it did was make the fire, God damn big.
Speaker 7: It made it worse, made it worse.
Speaker 9: Now you're gonna have hell putting it out?
Speaker 7: For sure? Is that my? Is that me or you? Oyo?
Speaker 7: What I do?
Speaker 9: I'm right here, I'm looking at you.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, because for a second I couldn't hear you.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 7: I'm good. Okay, sure, yeah, you're good. And what what
Speaker 7: has happened? O yoe?
Speaker 1: Is that for a fire to burn? Yeah, needs oxygen.
Speaker 1: What he gave the fire was oxygen. A fire will
Speaker 1: not burn. Hey, you could have the biggest fire, robbins
Speaker 1: of it of its oxygen. You see a candle, put
Speaker 1: a dish, put a jar over the candle, and it
Speaker 1: can't get any more oxygen.
Speaker 7: It'll go out.
Speaker 9: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You gave it oxygen That's why when people say things oyo,
Speaker 1: we have to be careful how we respond, because we
Speaker 1: give it oxygen and it'll keep burning. See, things will
Speaker 1: burn as long as it has oxygen. Let it die.
Speaker 1: He could have just let it die. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: understand that he sees them. I understand that he's upset.
Speaker 1: You're losing ball games that you don't think you should
Speaker 1: have lost. Guys are coming in two minutes, five minutes,
Speaker 1: ten how a minute late. They're late to meetia, late
Speaker 1: to practice. You know, it doesn't seem to be important.
Speaker 1: They're not as attentive as they need to be. Yes,
Speaker 1: it can get frustrated, especially especially, like I said, I
Speaker 1: don't know what he's actually like.
Speaker 7: I've been around players that it was the end all
Speaker 7: be all.
Speaker 1: Everybody is not like that the end all be all right,
Speaker 1: but it's probably it was probably bothering him. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: this is probably why we're losing. Guys are not taking
Speaker 1: this as serious as they need to. Okay, but if
Speaker 1: they had, if they held you in such high regard,
Speaker 1: if they respected you as the leader, they're not coming
Speaker 1: late now.
Speaker 7: They're just not.
Speaker 1: I mean a little thing, lo yoe, hey man, check
Speaker 1: this out, man, We need a let's do so, let's
Speaker 1: let's go to the movies after a workout on Monday.
Speaker 1: Guess what, Fifteen twenty of us go to the movies.
Speaker 1: Hey man, let's go bowling. Fifteen twenty of us go bowling.
Speaker 1: It's things like that. But they gotta respect you. Guys
Speaker 1: don't respect you. They they're gonna blow y'all. It's really
Speaker 1: that simple too. You're gonna have to play better. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be better, not just on the field,
Speaker 1: because leadership.
Speaker 7: Is just not a calling players.
Speaker 1: And then the hold on and you got to see
Speaker 1: on your jersey, you gotta it's off the field.
Speaker 7: Oho, it's the things. It's things like that.
Speaker 1: You suppress things that Mike McDaniel or upstairs don't even
Speaker 1: know about. A fight that was about to happen. Something's
Speaker 1: about to go down. Somebody owe somebody, somebody, Okay, what happened?
Speaker 1: Hey sharp, check this out, man, We playing this blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. So how were you playing it? Oto, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get We're gonna get back to this. We got
Speaker 1: a very special guest joining us. He had a monster
Speaker 1: game the week before.
Speaker 7: He told his former team y'all.
Speaker 1: Buckle up, buckle up, buckle up, and Lord behold, he
Speaker 1: came and gave him that work one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: six yards. I think he had over two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty yards. I think he had like two thirty of
Speaker 1: a total offense with receiving and running the football.
Speaker 7: Ric o'donald joins us, recall, how you're doing.
Speaker 5: Bro, great man, can't complain how you doing.
Speaker 7: I'm doing amazing. I'm doing amazing, bro.
Speaker 8: All all this well already before before starts my first question.
Speaker 8: My first question to you, would you come into the
Speaker 8: game like that, obviously saying what you had to say,
Speaker 8: giving the team bulletin board material before the game even started.
Speaker 8: Did you have a chip on your shoulder? Did you
Speaker 8: have a chip on the shoulder go into that game?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, for sure. You know, that was one of
Speaker 5: those games I had circle early on in the season.
Speaker 10: But I think I always played yeah with my shoulder
Speaker 10: since since coming in to the league, so so always
Speaker 10: a chip on my shoulder when I stepped out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was surprised because you said this. They know
Speaker 1: what look you were there, so they know what type
Speaker 1: of person you are, They know what type of running
Speaker 1: back you are. Do you think they underestimated you? They's like, man,
Speaker 1: this Rico just doing talking. Man, Rico ain't fitna do
Speaker 1: none of that on us. What I mean because obviously
Speaker 1: you said it. I mean, you just came off a
Speaker 1: monster performance the week before and you called them out.
Speaker 1: You said, hey, buckle up.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I probably they probably underestimated me a little bit because
Speaker 10: they know, like you said, they know I talked to like,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna talk a little bit.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: He actually told me that before the game. Sam. I
Speaker 5: talked to Sam for the game.
Speaker 10: He was like, I told him Sam. He was like,
Speaker 10: I told him that just you, You're gonna talk da
Speaker 10: da da. I don't know what the chatter was in
Speaker 10: the locker room, but I don't think they relayed the
Speaker 10: message to the four I got it.
Speaker 5: I don't think they did it for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you I think obviously r D. I've been
Speaker 8: I've been high on the Carolina Panthers for a very
Speaker 8: long time. Obviously before the season started. I continuously said
Speaker 8: it over and over and over. For those in the
Speaker 8: chat that are watching, I'm not sure if you heard it.
Speaker 8: In general, I was very high on them, and I
Speaker 8: said that they were one of the two teams to
Speaker 8: watch this year, and I said they were surprise everybody.
Speaker 8: You guys are playing extremely well, and after last week's game,
Speaker 8: what is it that you guys need to continue to
Speaker 8: build on to make sure everything continues to go in
Speaker 8: the right direction?
Speaker 9: Headed, headed towards it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I say, just really playing complimentary complement in football
Speaker 10: all three phases, offense, defense, special teams. I think that's
Speaker 10: one of the main things. Is just like, as long
Speaker 10: as we do that, I think we'll be fine. Not
Speaker 10: hurting ourselves how we did early in games, having to
Speaker 10: dig out of the whole early, if it was the
Speaker 10: turnovers and things like that. So I think we do
Speaker 10: that and just continue to do that and be able
Speaker 10: to execute, keep executing that high level.
Speaker 5: I think we'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, how disappointed were you? You came in, You run
Speaker 1: over one thousand yards and you're like, man, I had
Speaker 1: a good season. Okay, I'm young and ain't got a
Speaker 1: whole lot of knowledge on me. I know they gonna call,
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna break your boy off. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be able to stay here. I got I'm settled here.
Speaker 7: I like it here. They know what they got with me.
Speaker 7: I know what I have with.
Speaker 1: Them, and then come free agency and I don't know
Speaker 1: if they called you. I don't know if they lowballed.
Speaker 1: You walk us through your thought process after the season ends,
Speaker 1: you have your exit meeting with your running back coach
Speaker 1: and maybe the head coach, the general manager, walk us
Speaker 1: through the steps up until you made the decision you're
Speaker 1: going to Carrol.
Speaker 5: So they never made an offer at all in free agency. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they never made an offer at all.
Speaker 10: So just going through when we got out my agent
Speaker 10: and we obviously thought we would get something here back
Speaker 10: from but they just the kind of team they like,
Speaker 10: go test the market, let us know what you're hear,
Speaker 10: and then come back and let us know and we'll
Speaker 10: see if with it. So it was that kind of
Speaker 10: situation they told me to go out to They're gonna
Speaker 10: let me test the market. And so I didn't tell
Speaker 10: you liking of that because I thought maybe what I've
Speaker 10: been through there in my five years and what I
Speaker 10: was able to do once I was given the opportunity
Speaker 10: to run the ball, what I was able to do,
Speaker 10: I thought maybe they would have an offer, but you know,
Speaker 10: they didn't, and it worked out for me in this
Speaker 10: way and I'm getting a show now, so happy. Why now.
Speaker 1: With them telling you to go test the market and
Speaker 1: they'll see that probably kind of left you feel in
Speaker 1: some type of way, like, nah, bro, if I it's like, bro, hey.
Speaker 7: You tell your girl, you go test the market if
Speaker 7: you find somebody that you like.
Speaker 1: If somebody liked you there, I might come back and
Speaker 1: take you up. But if you do, you welcome to golt. No, bro,
Speaker 1: you sift me free. I'm good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely don't work like that. But yeah, it definitely
Speaker 5: definitely left Uh.
Speaker 10: I wouldn't mess up say I was just too disappointed
Speaker 10: because I know the nature of the business and how
Speaker 10: they operated. I mean I was a free agent to
Speaker 10: give before and they pretty much told me the same thing.
Speaker 5: But I ended up signing back there.
Speaker 10: So yeah, I just know the nature of the business,
Speaker 10: so I couldn't take harp on it too much. Just
Speaker 10: know I had to look for the next best opportunity
Speaker 10: for me. And while I can go make an impact.
Speaker 1: You look at the city wish Dave Canalis your head coach.
Speaker 1: He was very noncomeale to Chobehoe Hubbard is coming back?
Speaker 1: You rush for three hundred and eighty nine yards in
Speaker 1: the previous in the past two ball games, four hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy three yards of total offense. And he was like,
Speaker 1: they ask him Sunday after the game, He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: Rico's playing extremely well.
Speaker 7: We're definitely gonna have a package.
Speaker 1: But he didn't say who's going to store when when
Speaker 1: that first offense run out there on the field is
Speaker 1: a Rico running out there.
Speaker 5: With no we'll see Sunday when when.
Speaker 10: The game coach, and he adn't really put too much
Speaker 10: into it, but he just said, we'll see when the
Speaker 10: game come. We're gonna go through this week and then
Speaker 10: when the game comes Sunday, we'll see.
Speaker 8: And you know, and honestly, honestly, that's not a bad
Speaker 8: thing when you think about it. Obviously, I know you
Speaker 8: want to you want to be the starter. You want
Speaker 8: to be the one to.
Speaker 9: Get the bulk of the carries.
Speaker 8: Ween you have a two headed monther like you and
Speaker 8: Hubbard back there like that, it opens up everything else, man,
Speaker 8: because of what you did last week.
Speaker 9: You don't you don't you don't understand.
Speaker 8: I mean, as a player, I think you might get it,
Speaker 8: but as a as a fan of the game and
Speaker 8: watching and understanding that and played it. But what you
Speaker 8: just did last week, it makes it that much easier
Speaker 8: for whoever's calling the players, whether it's David was officer coordinator,
Speaker 8: you made bright young job either.
Speaker 9: You made every receiver t Mac and Lega at Hunter,
Speaker 9: you made all their jobs either.
Speaker 8: Because now when you play, oh well, goddamn already in
Speaker 8: the game, safety.
Speaker 9: Man, come on down in that bout.
Speaker 8: Every time, every time, every every time you in the game,
Speaker 8: the defense is checking to something different because you are
Speaker 8: the one threat offensive that you got to worry about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I definitely, I definitely follow what you're
Speaker 5: saying there.
Speaker 10: That's one thing's going I think it's gonna help U
Speaker 10: span the whole offense play ash. They gotta respect to run.
Speaker 10: I think it's gonna hop on your ass for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So what if your coach, what if coach
Speaker 1: canals their head coach? What is your running back coach
Speaker 1: told you, Okay, you know Hubbard is going down. This
Speaker 1: is your opportunity because you know you split in carries
Speaker 1: and you know he get hot and you might not
Speaker 1: get the amount of carriers. Because running back, I mean,
Speaker 1: most skill position is all about and it's hard to
Speaker 1: get a rhythm. You get one carry, you get a
Speaker 1: carried the first drive, and then you might not get
Speaker 1: another carry to the third drive, and then you might
Speaker 1: have five carries in the first half and only get two.
Speaker 1: So now what you could be in the big time
Speaker 1: running back, the full time running back.
Speaker 7: Now you're able to get into a rhythm.
Speaker 1: What has coach told you is that, okay, just make
Speaker 1: just make sure you stay keep your head in the game,
Speaker 1: make sure you stay ready. Is that some of the
Speaker 1: things that your coaching, your position coach have related it?
Speaker 10: Yes, so yeah, I'm going into it. Only talked to
Speaker 10: my running back coach about it. He is like, okay,
Speaker 10: just kill your ops. You know, when the opportunity, the
Speaker 10: opportunity is presented itself to go out there and show
Speaker 10: what I can do, just make sure I make the
Speaker 10: most of it.
Speaker 5: You think I was able to do that?
Speaker 7: Absolutely one year deal.
Speaker 1: So would you like to remain with Carolina long term
Speaker 1: or you like, Look, I'm gonna take it one year
Speaker 1: at a time. I'm gonna go out here and play
Speaker 1: my absolute best this year and then I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: the chips fall ward. It may ain't nothing promised the
Speaker 1: only thing I can promise you. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: everything I got, every down out.
Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah, exactly, so exactly. That's how I want.
Speaker 10: I'm saying that, just go out there, take it this
Speaker 10: year and then see how it goes.
Speaker 5: Just got to be productive. I know it's a production
Speaker 5: based business. As long as I'm productive the rest of
Speaker 5: taking every So.
Speaker 1: Do you look back, do you are like, yeah, that's good, y'all.
Speaker 1: Should have kept me. When you look up at your
Speaker 1: boarder team and you see them struggling, and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you get. Do you mean because I understand
Speaker 1: that you have friends over there? I mean you still
Speaker 1: use there for five years, so you do. You have
Speaker 1: built relationships. But it's not like I want you all
Speaker 1: to have success.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I don't really look at it like that. Like
Speaker 5: you said, a lot of those guys.
Speaker 10: My friends, I ain't really rooting for the rooting for
Speaker 10: their downfall and the dude they got over there, he's
Speaker 10: been having a pretty good season too, so yeah, a
Speaker 10: pretty good season too. But yeah, I'm not really I
Speaker 10: wouldn't really be rooting on that down I want him
Speaker 10: to win and things like that all my friends there,
Speaker 10: but I just wanted to beat them when we played them.
Speaker 7: I help you out with this.
Speaker 1: You had an injury in your career South Carolina, you
Speaker 1: were you, You had a lot of injuries.
Speaker 7: How are you able to stay healthy?
Speaker 1: Because normally if you limp into the NFL, you're gonna
Speaker 1: limp out of it. You had injuries in college, but
Speaker 1: for some reason, you've been able to You've been able
Speaker 1: to stay.
Speaker 9: Healthy in the league.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I think that was one of my biggest things coming
Speaker 10: up of college, injuries, just not being able to stay healthy.
Speaker 10: But thankfully I never had no injury where it was
Speaker 10: I think longer than like ten weeks recovery.
Speaker 5: That was my longest injury.
Speaker 10: But yeah, in college, just had a bunch of knicks
Speaker 10: and that's broke my fibula and to my hamstring.
Speaker 5: Had four knee surgeries. Sports.
Speaker 9: God, damn, God, damn.
Speaker 1: You tell me about you ain't had nobody to keep
Speaker 1: you out ten weeks I broke.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the longest one was ten.
Speaker 10: I broke my fibble of like week five my sophomore
Speaker 10: year college, played in the bowl game.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that was like my worst one I think
Speaker 5: in college.
Speaker 10: But I'm like eight surgeries deep though, but just staying
Speaker 10: eight Yeah, eight surgeries.
Speaker 1: Did you think, like, damn, I got buzzared. Look, I
Speaker 1: can't catch a breath.
Speaker 10: So that's exactly what I was thinking, Like, I don't
Speaker 10: know what I'm doing wrong, why I keep happening.
Speaker 5: But yes, it's just getting in the NFL.
Speaker 10: I think those first couple of years just setting out,
Speaker 10: taking the time my body and figuring my body out.
Speaker 10: Really that's what allowed for me to stay healthy, not
Speaker 10: just figuring out what worked best for me.
Speaker 5: Drop my weight. Played at like two twenty five in college.
Speaker 10: I played like two ten, two fifteen now, So just
Speaker 10: figuring out what worked.
Speaker 5: Best for me.
Speaker 7: Hey, yeah, you know that college training table.
Speaker 8: Hey, does it ever be in the back of your
Speaker 8: mind when you're playing, like trying to be cautious and
Speaker 8: little hesitant based on you know what you want to do,
Speaker 8: or you just you free wheel, don't even care about
Speaker 8: the past injuries and you just go out there and
Speaker 8: just go out.
Speaker 5: There and play.
Speaker 10: I'm trying to bring the punishment. I don't really think
Speaker 10: about that at all. Yeah, don't think about it at all.
Speaker 7: Look, you're with the game. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Who is your top five, your top five running backs
Speaker 1: in USC all time game.
Speaker 5: College top five all time. Now you're don't have to
Speaker 5: put Marcus Lodim on there for sure.
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, Marcus, you got Deuce Stanley, Okay, who else?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Well, George Rogers got to be first.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how George Rogers.
Speaker 10: And then you got.
Speaker 5: Twenty two, twenty two. I don't remember. I don't remember,
Speaker 5: I don't name, I don't.
Speaker 7: Hald Green running.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was, that was, that was before your time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, George, George graduated. George graduated today, graduated left
Speaker 1: in eighty.
Speaker 7: So wait for me.
Speaker 5: I was born in ninety eight.
Speaker 1: Hey, man, Rico man, continued success, Man, Congratulations on a
Speaker 1: great a great start to a new year or new
Speaker 1: year and new team. You've been playing unbelievable. Keep up
Speaker 1: the great work, stay prayed up, stay positive. Good things
Speaker 1: have happened down the road. And when you make the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year is one of those NFC running backs,
Speaker 1: come back and tell us how you.
Speaker 9: Do appreciate Hey, Hey, Hey, do me a small favor.
Speaker 8: Y'all got practiced, all right, man, tell the receivers man
Speaker 8: all together at the same time telling boys, I'm betting
Speaker 8: the house on him this weekend.
Speaker 9: Yeah, letting boy know. Tell him, boys, I say, keep
Speaker 9: pounding bits.
Speaker 1: Alright, appreciate that. We appreciation. Appreciate your stopping by all
Speaker 1: right man.
Speaker 7: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco was asking about the idea of Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: going off script and changing his route.
Speaker 7: This is what Joe said.
Speaker 2: What is it like when Jamar comes to you and says,
Speaker 2: I understand to play call, but oh yeah, I know
Speaker 2: you think like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's out there freestyle and at least
Speaker 4: not with me right now.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 7: Listen.
Speaker 4: I mean, ultimately, if he came to me and said, hey,
Speaker 4: I know the place this, but I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 4: I tell you, I'd say, okay, I guess yeah, that's
Speaker 4: what you're gonna do. Okay, that sounds good to me.
Speaker 4: I would uh, I would lean on him to feel
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily see that happening, But I'm just hypothetically
Speaker 4: if he was to come to me and do that,
Speaker 4: I'd just say, yes, sir, that's that's what we'll do.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Hey, you know that's a beautiful thing too.
Speaker 8: When you're having veteran quarterback like that, and the receiver
Speaker 8: can see thing that the quarterback can see, and the
Speaker 8: receiver can see things that the office according might not
Speaker 8: be able to see. Obviously he's up there maybe in
Speaker 8: the box.
Speaker 9: But it's different when you when you.
Speaker 8: Feel side, you got a bird's eye view. It not
Speaker 8: a bird's eye view, but uh a front view of
Speaker 8: everything and what you what you can and can't do.
Speaker 8: If if Jamar Chase and Joe Flacco gets some type
Speaker 8: of communication skills or maybe a number system, I know
Speaker 8: that's not the offense that they're running right now, but
Speaker 8: with joke and hit him something like down by the
Speaker 8: hip up like if you see something they playing off
Speaker 8: and they got the eye contact, you just throw him
Speaker 8: something simple.
Speaker 9: You know how many yards? How many yards receive? I'm
Speaker 9: talking about good receivers. Good receiving.
Speaker 8: The quarterbacks leave out there because they stay on script
Speaker 8: when it's right there. The game of football is not complicated.
Speaker 8: You can go up script and do something very safe.
Speaker 8: Oh we planed off seven yards the safety in the
Speaker 8: middle of the field, give him a hitch, give him
Speaker 8: a slant, and we seen we seen uno. We don't
Speaker 8: seen him take a goddamn slant eighty goddamn yards. We
Speaker 8: didn't seen him take a hitch, break a tackle and
Speaker 8: go down thirty forty yards until until backside catch him.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just little stuff like that, man, and
Speaker 9: it's good. I'm glad we have Joe.
Speaker 8: I'm glad they asked that question, because now what's gonna
Speaker 8: have what's gonna happen now is when they play this
Speaker 8: goddamn game tomorrow night, there's gonna be they're gonna come
Speaker 8: a time where there's a play that's called and they're
Speaker 8: gonna be on their own page.
Speaker 7: Well, I think that's something.
Speaker 1: Like he said, Jamar comes to him and tell him
Speaker 1: that they don't have the type of relationship. They haven't
Speaker 1: worked together long enough that Joe will know that. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's dis coverage and he's supposed to do this. He's
Speaker 1: gonna do that. They haven't played together on.
Speaker 9: You take time. It takes time. That's what.
Speaker 8: That's why I said, some kind of some kind of
Speaker 8: some kind of something that they can do with their hands.
Speaker 8: It got to be something, got it gotta be something.
Speaker 8: Just because you leave so many players out there, you
Speaker 8: leave so many yards out there, trying to do everything
Speaker 8: by the book. Sometimes you just have to play football.
Speaker 8: Sometimes it's not just extit. No, sometimes it's not scheme.
Speaker 8: Sometimes you can go off.
Speaker 9: Script and still have success based on what you see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing is, oh Joe, look Joe. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Joe just been there. He's been there ten days.
Speaker 1: It's hard, it's hard. It's hard to build a connection
Speaker 1: and where hey, hey, oh Joe, I touched.
Speaker 7: My chin, run a smoke. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, you know, hey, I touched my heap, run a
Speaker 1: square out. It's hard to get that because hell I
Speaker 1: tell it that. I'm like, hey, my chin was just
Speaker 1: it you No, I ain't mean doing my chin was itching.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm You and Tarzan had that cut.
Speaker 1: You and Carson had built up a rapport, a relationship,
Speaker 1: and that's something that you talked about. You know, John,
Speaker 1: I would know if God's playing this kind of leverage.
Speaker 1: This is what John expects me to do. If I'm
Speaker 1: getting man coverage. He expects me to bust it out
Speaker 1: of the break. If he's outside, he already knows I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take three steps and I'm pulling up.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So that's but that was over years and years
Speaker 7: and years or if I'm gonna uncover.
Speaker 1: But that's asking a lot, and I'm glad Chase comes
Speaker 1: to him and say, look, I know I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: do this, but on this on display right here, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do that. So now he's already put the seed,
Speaker 1: he's already playing in the seed in Joe head, Hey, don't.
Speaker 7: You throw that.
Speaker 1: Don't you throw that in cut because I'm running out
Speaker 1: because if you throw it in, you will hit it
Speaker 1: right in the chest. Because I'm telling you what I'm doing.
Speaker 8: Listen, long they on the same page. Long as they're
Speaker 8: on the same page. Because as we are not built
Speaker 8: obviously with Joe just getting there. You just said that
Speaker 8: Joe only been there. Goddamn, he's been there, got damn
Speaker 8: ten minutes. He only been there ten minutes. So we
Speaker 8: can overcome mistakes, we can overcome turnovers. We have to
Speaker 8: be as efficient as possible on offense all four quarters,
Speaker 8: the same way we looked at looked when we came
Speaker 8: out of halftime at at Green Bay game. That's seventeen
Speaker 8: play drive. That's what we got to look like all
Speaker 8: four quarters. Now that Joe has a little bit more
Speaker 8: time with the offense with the play calling getting a
Speaker 8: little familiar with the system, I think we have a
Speaker 8: good chance at competing and beating the Steelers.
Speaker 9: That are on a roll right now. Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 9: on fire.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna see him live. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 8: him try to talk trash. But they look good. But
Speaker 8: I think we can compete with them now. I don't
Speaker 8: know what we're gonna do on the defensive side of
Speaker 8: the all. That's the problem that's been our Achilles here
Speaker 8: for a while now. But offensively, Joe can keep our
Speaker 8: head above the water. So basically, I'm saying, if this
Speaker 8: was the Titanic, the Bengals offenses.
Speaker 9: Rolls, we might be in the water.
Speaker 7: But she on the dough, she's in.
Speaker 1: Other words, you gotta right now. You're not a fast thing.
Speaker 1: You slow slinking. I mean, there's gonna take some time
Speaker 1: for you guys to get to the bottom. But you know, hey,
Speaker 1: right now, you got a little hole of your ho lo, Joe,
Speaker 1: you got a hold of your Hey.
Speaker 8: Listen, the boat done sunk because Joe, I mean, Joe
Speaker 8: Burrow is hurt, right, But listen, if if, if, if
Speaker 8: the offense is rolls and roses on the door in
Speaker 8: the water.
Speaker 9: Mm hmm, roses on the door in the water.
Speaker 7: So she's floating, Yeah, she floating.
Speaker 9: So were good right now?
Speaker 7: We're good. That what a real coot.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be. You know, I'm going to the game tomorrow.
Speaker 9: I'm flying out there. It's cold. We're gonna be all
Speaker 9: right though.
Speaker 7: Look and and and and uh.
Speaker 1: The Steelers defense is playing unbelievable and Jaalen rams is
Speaker 1: giving them a boost because you can do so many things.
Speaker 7: He can play.
Speaker 1: He can play safety, he can play corner, he can
Speaker 1: play slide, he can blend. He's an outstanding tackler. He
Speaker 1: does not He's not afraid to get the uniform dirty.
Speaker 1: He gonna come on you guys that he wants. You know,
Speaker 1: oh yo, youmember back in the day, Oh yo, we
Speaker 1: wanted o Jersey. We wanted our uniform to get dirty.
Speaker 1: And guys that didn't play, they rolled on the ground
Speaker 1: trying to put his hed like they got their uniform dirty.
Speaker 7: In the game. Nah, bro, you just rolled on the ground.
Speaker 7: You ain't.
Speaker 1: You ain't getting no action. Jaylen Ramsey is a guy
Speaker 1: to get his uniform dirty. You're gonna come up and
Speaker 1: hit you now, Hell yeah, and you know you know
Speaker 1: who you remind me of.
Speaker 8: I mean, listen, I know you watched a lot of
Speaker 8: a lot of football over the years, a lot of
Speaker 8: defensive back player and you know how much I love dvs.
Speaker 8: And I've never I've never seen two dvs that always
Speaker 8: could a mind when I think of defensive backs. Forget covering.
Speaker 8: They can cover, but boy, they will come up and
Speaker 8: smack you. I'm talking about smack you. That goddamn Antoine
Speaker 8: Winfield as small as he was when he played, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 8: and that goddamn Nate Clemens when he was in Buffalo.
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, Lord have mercy. Yeah boy, y'all don't have
Speaker 9: no regard for your body. They ain't care. And you
Speaker 9: gotta remember, this is the running era.
Speaker 8: So I'm watching them pull up shared blocks and taking
Speaker 8: running backs that's way bigger than them.
Speaker 9: I'm not talking about going low and going out. I'm
Speaker 9: talking about up high. Man.
Speaker 7: What is you doing? Yeah? You got?
Speaker 1: I mean, and that era, you know, Champ, Champ was
Speaker 1: a good tackler. Champ with what they didn't mind, didn't
Speaker 1: mind hitting. You know, you run to a guy, you
Speaker 1: run to a side where you're like man, he's not
Speaker 1: a tackler. Okay, we're gonna try to well, ay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go and try to what we're gonna try to do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to put a line on on and
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to put out safety because what you
Speaker 1: do you push the corner and then you have the
Speaker 1: corner track crack the safety and so we're gonna see
Speaker 1: if you want to make a tackle. We know the safety.
Speaker 1: Most safetyes are good tackle, especially the strong safety. We
Speaker 1: know they'll tackle. We want to see if you will tackle,
Speaker 1: that's what we want to see, or you're gonna retreat
Speaker 1: and hope somebody because a lot of times, don't you,
Speaker 1: they'll retreat hoping somebody else. Come, y'all make the tackle.
Speaker 1: I'ma hold it up now, I'm holding up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it ground now, y'all come and make.
Speaker 9: This tackle, waiting on pursuit to come help.
Speaker 7: That's exactly what they're way to. You know.
Speaker 8: What's scary too, and I think about DV, especially during
Speaker 8: our era. During our era, where it's even worse now
Speaker 8: is when you when you crack replaced and that goddamn
Speaker 8: guard is pulling, it's.
Speaker 1: More difficult now, Joe, because the dbut loan on the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Back in the day, the dvs could go low.
Speaker 1: They could cut the lineman down and cut that out.
Speaker 1: That's a penlody down. That's a fifteen yard penalty if
Speaker 1: you cut the legs out of an offensive lineman.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and take that punishment.
Speaker 1: And and most corner they ain't really trying to take
Speaker 1: on no guard, not trying to take on no tackles
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Uh So you think the Bengals
Speaker 1: got a shot tomorrow, Joe, I think so.
Speaker 8: And I'm only saying this from an offensive perspective, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm only saying from the offensive perspective and the fact
Speaker 8: that it's a division game. Both teams are familiar with
Speaker 8: each other. They know exactly what they like to do.
Speaker 8: I know they have a different quarterback. I know they
Speaker 8: have a different quarterback. Hell, we got a different one too.
Speaker 8: But for some reason, the game is always close. I
Speaker 8: don't think it would be a blowout. It would probably
Speaker 8: be a low scoring game. And in order for us
Speaker 8: to win up front, off the line, you got to
Speaker 8: have some type of pride, Baby, you got to have
Speaker 8: some type of pride.
Speaker 9: I know, TJ. Whitey gonna make his plays. They get
Speaker 9: played too. I know they're gonna make their plays. But
Speaker 9: for the most part, if you keep Joe Flackle upright,
Speaker 9: he can wheel and deal. And we saw that early
Speaker 9: in the second half of that Green Bay game.
Speaker 7: We saw it.
Speaker 9: We saw it, so I'm hoping to get a little
Speaker 9: bit more of that.
Speaker 7: All four quarters, all.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, and listen, they're gonna have They're gonna
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Speaker 9: Hey O they playing man? They playing man?
Speaker 8: But yeah, this is Stiller's is Stiller's. They ain't showing
Speaker 8: no they ain't showing no love. They ain't showing no love.
Speaker 8: They're not giving you no special privileges. We're from the lineup.
Speaker 8: We got Darius Slate, we got Jalen Ramsey, and we're
Speaker 8: finna be in your face.
Speaker 5: Mh.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get back to that one. Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco over thirty six and a half pass attempts. How
Speaker 1: many attemps did he have on Sunday gainst the Packers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going over. He gonna he gonna, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: he definitely gonna have to throw it because you're not
Speaker 1: running on the Steelers.
Speaker 8: And why would that jendary to say that if we
Speaker 8: don't establishing there, we ain't gonna know.
Speaker 9: We ain't gonna have no choice butter throw the ball.
Speaker 1: Uh T J Watt over three point five tackles and assists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have two sacks. Yeah, so you mean to
Speaker 1: tell me that tackles?
Speaker 9: They did not say that. They said they said, assists
Speaker 9: in tackles, he might not get a sack.
Speaker 7: Oh, he gonna get a sack.
Speaker 9: You real confident over there? Yeah? T J.
Speaker 7: Water bag Boy and Joe Flacco old Foods grocery.
Speaker 2: So what you do?
Speaker 7: Sack it up?
Speaker 9: You signed, real confidence.
Speaker 1: I'm going over. I'm going over. I'm going over with
Speaker 1: h T. J. Watt three and a half tackles and assists.
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase seventy four point five receiving yards.
Speaker 9: Got on. Oh, I'm gonna let you get that one.
Speaker 7: You got a package package defense.
Speaker 1: Package defense ain't like the Steelers thought?
Speaker 7: Huh?
Speaker 1: I mean the Steelers defense. Steelers defense. The package defense
Speaker 1: isn't like the Steelers, right, that's what?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Uh have the Steelers? Have the Steelers given up
Speaker 7: one hundred yard receiver? How many who did? Oh? From Cleveland? Yeah,
Speaker 7: Cleveland fan and had eighty one? What did it happened?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 7: What about Seattle? What didn't didn't they place? Did they
Speaker 7: play Seattle Vikings? Jamar Chase went crazy, Yeah, I mean Jefferson, Jefferson.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, over over over, oh oh, I said
Speaker 8: over from the beginning.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you was, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if Joe flack O can walking to him like wins,
Speaker 1: Oh walking to a wins what?
Speaker 7: Oh walk into him? Because you remember when that when
Speaker 7: the Steelers.
Speaker 1: When the Steelers played the Vikings, the Vikers had two
Speaker 1: receivers over one hundred yards Jefferson and Addison, Steelers one.
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna go over.
Speaker 9: I told you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm taking the staff picked this the last time.
Speaker 1: I ain't let y'all pick else. If y'all get this
Speaker 1: one wrong. Download there Afterday used coach Shannon to get
Speaker 1: fifty dollars in lineups. After you play your first five
Speaker 1: dollars lineup, it's good to be right, yeah, y'all Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: George Pickens, who said to become an unrestricted freedgent after
Speaker 1: the season, praised the Cowboys but noted he also wants
Speaker 1: to showcase my talents. Pickens was asked about staying in
Speaker 1: Dallas long term and says I wouldn't mind it. The
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room are super cool. The energy
Speaker 1: is great. But like I've said, I always want to
Speaker 1: showcase my talent most definitely Pickens, who turns twenty five
Speaker 1: next March figures to be one of the most sought
Speaker 1: after receivers in free agency should he hit the market.
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Jerry Jones did not want to get into
Speaker 1: whether the team would like to open talks on a
Speaker 1: new contract with Pickings. O Jo, Yeah, Pickings gonna walk
Speaker 1: somewhere between thirty two and thirty six million dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is he staying in Dallas or Jeorge? Is Jerry gonna
Speaker 1: hand him walking papers? Let him walk?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: If I was him, I wouldn't even lady, I wouldn't
Speaker 8: even want to be there. Honestly, I'm just saying that's
Speaker 8: just me personally. I want to maximize my potential. I
Speaker 8: want to maximize my earnings.
Speaker 9: And go somewhere else where I can I can contribute.
Speaker 9: He's about you want to show your talent.
Speaker 1: We know what he's gonna need to be the number one.
Speaker 1: He want to go somewhere and be number one. He
Speaker 1: want to be number one.
Speaker 8: Then, I mean, that's what he is. That's what it's
Speaker 8: that they're They're in a great situation. Obviously, it was
Speaker 8: unfortunate that Ceedee Lamb got hurt. Where Dak Prescott had
Speaker 8: two number one receivers.
Speaker 9: But he needs to go somewhere else to maximize as
Speaker 9: much as he can get.
Speaker 8: Be that number one, continue to build his career in
Speaker 8: being the number one player, and Cleveland that that he
Speaker 8: that he knows he can do where you said Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Cleveland, they need a number one receiver. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take the places. Oh the Raiders.
Speaker 8: Oh, I like, hey, wait a minute, do you understand
Speaker 8: how you Understan saying how that marriage right there would
Speaker 8: be perfect George Pickins NFL young boy at the Raiders.
Speaker 7: Yo, I'm that that is a great match.
Speaker 9: That's a great Yeah, for sure, it makes sense.
Speaker 8: It fits, it fits him, his persona, his image, you know,
Speaker 8: being Hey, that is perfect.
Speaker 9: Pete carroll a Pete. I'm not tampering. I'm just telling
Speaker 9: you ahead of time.
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, you know where he'd be good at to Ojo,
Speaker 1: the Giants, Oh until until Jackson Dark.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 1: Neighbors, they got neighbors, neighbors coming back. Numb mind not
Speaker 1: there all right? Hold up, Let me see.
Speaker 9: Atlanta got Drake, London, London.
Speaker 1: H Tampa got in Buka and they got Godwin.
Speaker 9: They got Mike New Orleans.
Speaker 7: They got a lave Shaheed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I mean me personally, I think
Speaker 1: George Pickens is better than both of those guys.
Speaker 9: Uh different different, different type of player, different receiver. I'm
Speaker 9: I like the I like the Raiders. I love the Raid,
Speaker 9: I love the like that, I like the Raiders idea.
Speaker 1: Honestly, all things being equal, the question is do they
Speaker 1: like Zay Flowers or do you like George Pickens?
Speaker 9: Who?
Speaker 7: Because both of them gonna be.
Speaker 8: Up uh huh, pick going and pick going to the Raiders.
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, I'm putting that in the universe right
Speaker 8: now because I mean that that Ceedee Lamb team over
Speaker 8: there in Dallas on this helmet.
Speaker 7: Uh, the coach need a receiver, Damn. Okay, you like
Speaker 7: the coach with with Indiana Jones. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 9: I like it. But they kind of saying you Tennessee,
Speaker 9: They're not said what what?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, I mean they got pitmen, they played,
Speaker 1: they paid phipmen downs.
Speaker 9: They good, They're good. They got a nice little squad.
Speaker 8: Nicely and then you know what, you know what I
Speaker 8: like about the about the coach receivers. Everybody has a
Speaker 8: different strength. Everybody has a different strength everybody does something
Speaker 8: that the other doesn't. So I like what they have
Speaker 8: right now, I'm telling you Pickings to the Raiders.
Speaker 7: You're right for me, right, you know what? Don't yoe
Speaker 7: the Patriots?
Speaker 9: No, man, no, no, no, no, no, hell no, no.
Speaker 7: I don't like it.
Speaker 9: Drake may No, No, I like, I like. I like
Speaker 9: Drake Maye. But they they they got they little they
Speaker 9: core like Pickings and Patriots that. No, don't put him
Speaker 9: in that environment, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: You don't like that structure. It's too structured. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: put them in o yoe what don't.
Speaker 7: Put him in that environe?
Speaker 9: Man? Hell nah? Hell nah?
Speaker 7: What I mean?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 7: So what what do you think as far as the
Speaker 7: market open market? You're thinking? I mean, what numbers that
Speaker 7: we're looking at somewhere thirty six?
Speaker 8: Based on what I'm seeing right now from him and
Speaker 8: what he's done in the past and what he's probably
Speaker 8: gonna finish with this year, he probably gonna get some
Speaker 8: beteam thirty four thirty six.
Speaker 9: On the open market. I'm telling you it's gonna be
Speaker 9: Pete Carroll.
Speaker 8: It's gonna be I'm not his agent, but I'm gonna
Speaker 8: be responsible for him getting over there, over there with Gino.
Speaker 9: So Gino got somebody to get that thing to.
Speaker 1: You know, give you what, you know, keep turning the
Speaker 1: ball over, Geno, It's gonna be there throwing it to it.
Speaker 1: You better stop turning the ball over. He got ten
Speaker 1: interceptions the six games.
Speaker 9: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. See you
Speaker 9: know you know what would probably relieve some of those interceptions.
Speaker 7: Him not hitting other guys in the chests.
Speaker 9: Or having a target like George Piking to throw to
Speaker 9: rock Bar Still hurt, rock Barers still hurt?
Speaker 7: How he is?
Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, Look he's engaged. Ye, he knows the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna throw the football. He know he has a
Speaker 1: quarterback they can get him the football, and that he's
Speaker 1: getting more opportunities because CD is CD is down. Now,
Speaker 1: the question is when CD comes back or you still
Speaker 1: get ten eleven targets a game. Normally the ten eleven
Speaker 1: twelve targets go to CD. So let's just say, for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, oh yo, we take five of
Speaker 1: those four of those targets away, and so instead of
Speaker 1: getting ten eleven twelve, he gets six seven eight. Can
Speaker 1: he still give us? I mean, there'll be games that
Speaker 1: he still can give you one hundred. But if he
Speaker 1: can give us, you know, seventy a quick, seventy quick,
Speaker 1: eighty a tub here or there, he gonna get paid.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, the guy is gonna be. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, you start of.
Speaker 7: The twenty twenty sixth season. He ain't even he ain't even.
Speaker 7: He not even close to his prime.
Speaker 9: No, you ain't even got a prime.
Speaker 7: And me won't hit his prime for another two years.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's gonna he gonna get it.
Speaker 8: Listen, And I told you, I told you, didn't I
Speaker 8: tell you when I talked to Pick last year, didn't
Speaker 8: I tell you what' be no more problems?
Speaker 9: Yep, you ain't had and we ain't had a problem yet.
Speaker 9: I told you, and I stand on that.
Speaker 8: And he's gonna get rewarded, not only for for for
Speaker 8: I hate using the word good behavior, but being a professional.
Speaker 8: But you're gonna get rewarded for your play on the field,
Speaker 8: not what you're doing off of it. You're gonna get
Speaker 8: rewarded for your play on the field tremendously. And I
Speaker 8: know you're gonna see this young boy. Stay locked in.
Speaker 8: Keep the main thing, the main thing, and you're gonna
Speaker 8: get what you deserve.
Speaker 1: I got a place where you can go well, Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Josh Jacob said they need a number one.
Speaker 9: I like, hey, that's a good one. On, that's a
Speaker 9: good one.
Speaker 7: God Jacob said, they need to let me, let me,
Speaker 7: let me, let me tell you something. No, let me
Speaker 7: tell you something.
Speaker 8: I look at the Green Bay offense the same way
Speaker 8: I look at look at the Indianapolis coats where they
Speaker 8: all are by committee in each game.
Speaker 9: You never know whose day is gonna be right. You
Speaker 9: never know who's who days gonna bell.
Speaker 8: It might be it might be Wis, it might be
Speaker 8: God damn read come back, it might be doub You
Speaker 8: never know that.
Speaker 9: So I like what they have over there. I like
Speaker 9: that little young system they got.
Speaker 8: I wanted to be that man over there and oh
Speaker 8: in Las Vegas, because they're just gonna be him. You
Speaker 8: ain't got to worry about nothing else.
Speaker 9: You know, every game you get Tenny, them targets h
Speaker 9: going crazy.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
Speaker 9: Pete Carroll, what we talking about?
Speaker 7: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like look I like I always thought he was talented.
Speaker 1: I thought he was im mentally talented. The catches that
Speaker 1: he's made, he's tremendous run after the catch. It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you need to change the scenery. That's
Speaker 1: a long time you need to change of scenery. He had,
Speaker 1: he had worn out as welcome in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was
Speaker 1: you know, oh Joey was. They were Pittsburgh and George
Speaker 1: Pickens were sick. They were sick of him, and he
Speaker 1: was sick of them.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when you get a situation like that, the best
Speaker 1: thing to do is to go ahead part ways. They
Speaker 1: were able to get some they were able to get
Speaker 1: something for him. He was able to get a place.
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw him the football. Now it worked out perfectly.
Speaker 1: I hate that CD got hurt in order for people
Speaker 1: to see just how good George Pickens is, because I
Speaker 1: think the thing is is that you know his behavior,
Speaker 1: his petulant behavior, you forget that he's an im mensely
Speaker 1: talented receiver.
Speaker 7: Ced going down, he got an opportunity to showcase that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if CD's back this week or when
Speaker 1: ceed's coming back, but he's put enough on tape to
Speaker 1: make people understand, to let people know, oh he for real.
Speaker 7: Now I'm him, he the real deal him.
Speaker 9: We'll be talking about Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones says he's open to making a trade before
Speaker 1: the November for a trade deadline. We have thoughts all
Speaker 1: along that if we see a way to improve this
Speaker 1: year with a trade, with a trade at the deadline,
Speaker 1: then we'll take advantage of it. If there's a trade
Speaker 1: that will help the defense, we're in position to make
Speaker 1: that trade. I want to remind everyone one of the
Speaker 1: great things about our trade we had with Green Bay
Speaker 1: is that our tackle makes about twenty two million a year.
Speaker 1: He cost us two cost him two million dollars up,
Speaker 1: We're getting a twenty something million dollar player for two
Speaker 1: to three million right now, and he's playing by as
Speaker 1: well as anybody on the defense. Why do I bring
Speaker 1: that up? That alone has increased our flexibility of being
Speaker 1: able to look at potential trade right whereas you might
Speaker 1: have had had cramps. So we're in position to look
Speaker 1: at that trade, and that means we're going to make one.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean we're going to make one, but Jerry saying,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, we have the assets, we have the cap space.
Speaker 1: If there's somebody out there that can help this defense
Speaker 1: at the deadline, we go do it.
Speaker 7: I mean I wish for thinking. I told you that,
Speaker 7: Does that strike me as something Jerry would do?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: But hey, the question is, is there Charles Haley out there?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: But listen, they have a problem stopping to run. And
Speaker 8: I told you who to go, get some of you
Speaker 8: to go get over there in Tennessee. He went ninety eight.
Speaker 9: He nice a very good run stoppers. Listen.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure who the mic back is, but you
Speaker 8: should have a feast. You should have a hell of
Speaker 8: a time if Jerry makes that move and go get
Speaker 8: brother Simmons.
Speaker 1: Jared just he just keep throwing shade. And we got
Speaker 1: a detail that's making two to three billion dollars a year.
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, Jared, you got off Michael. You didn't
Speaker 1: have to pay the two hundred million dollars. It's moving along.
Speaker 1: But guess what, those picks that you got, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to give them up if you want somebody to
Speaker 1: trade deadline that can help your team, because I know you,
Speaker 1: I know you don't think somebody just gonna hand you
Speaker 1: over one of their best defensive players for what they said.
Speaker 1: Oh you got three first rounders, you want this player?
Speaker 1: Where you had three, now you got one or you
Speaker 1: give up one of those first rounder and a second
Speaker 1: round or something. But the question is the Simmons available?
Speaker 1: Because Simmons can stop the run and he can rush
Speaker 1: the passer, right, So the question is who's available and
Speaker 1: what are.
Speaker 7: You willing enough to get?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 7: What are you willing to give up to get him?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 7: That's what that's all about.
Speaker 1: O Yo, you have the capital, you have the flexibility,
Speaker 1: and you have the draft capital to go to satisfy.
Speaker 8: But think about this, even if you do have the capital,
Speaker 8: who are you gonna who you're gonna go get that's
Speaker 8: gonna make a difference, that's gonna make a change, that
Speaker 8: can put a dint in some of the issues that
Speaker 8: you have right now.
Speaker 9: I mean who it would have to be.
Speaker 8: If it would still have to be big name, it
Speaker 8: would still have to be a name that going to
Speaker 8: cost you, because anything else outside of that is just
Speaker 8: gonna be another body And I don't mean that in
Speaker 8: a disrespectful way, and just gonna be another body that's
Speaker 8: it taking up space, not someone that can actually make
Speaker 8: a difference for you defensively and change the trajectory.
Speaker 9: Look, ooh, I'm messing up my words. Trajectory of your defense.
Speaker 1: Look, if if I'm Cleveland, Jay, give me three first
Speaker 1: rounds on the second round pick, I'll give you Miles Garrett.
Speaker 8: Well, then you put yourself right back in the same
Speaker 8: situation you would have been in if you kept Micing
Speaker 8: paid my So you you you right back in the
Speaker 8: same boat.
Speaker 7: Claim I believe this is not what we did.
Speaker 9: You say we got better. Jerry said we got better
Speaker 9: when we let Michael go.
Speaker 1: If I put my finger, if I put my finger
Speaker 1: to Jerry's back and says, who's better, Michael, Miles Garrett.
Speaker 7: Who you think Jerry's gonna.
Speaker 9: Say, Matt Miles Garrett? Okay, Am I wrong?
Speaker 7: Am I right? Yeah? You're right.
Speaker 1: I believe he'll say, Miles Garrett, I get what you're
Speaker 1: saying to you say, well, okay, you gave up all
Speaker 1: that you what you acquired, so you got a very
Speaker 1: similar player. But I believe Jerry believed that Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: is an upgrade. So stand I'm not saying head over heels,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying too but I believe he's believes he's
Speaker 1: an upgrade over Michael Parkson's.
Speaker 8: Well, then it would still be the same thing because
Speaker 8: also he said I let Michael Parson go because when
Speaker 8: we did happen, we didn't win the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 8: are you saying Michael Parson is going to be the
Speaker 8: one to come here and Changeles Miles Garrett going to
Speaker 8: be the one to come here and change that.
Speaker 9: Are you gonna win the Super Bowl? Are you gonna get.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to find difference makers. Okay,
Speaker 1: that can help, that can help the Cowboys. Who who
Speaker 1: is the difference maker?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson? Do you believe do you believe Hendrickson's available?
Speaker 1: Is Jeffery Simmons?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll find out hold On, Yeah, the fifteenth, So we're
Speaker 1: about we're about about nineteen days. We're about three weeks
Speaker 1: away finding out what's gonna be available