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Speaker 3: And Detroit did it.
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Speaker 2: let's get right into the game. As I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions moved to twelve and one thirty four.
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers ball to ninety four thirty one.
Speaker 2: So the Lions win thirty four to thirty one over
Speaker 2: division rivals the green Bay Packers, the eleventh straight win.
Speaker 2: Jared Goff had another efficient game. He was thirty two
Speaker 2: or forty one two eighty three, three touchdowns, one interception.
Speaker 3: He was sacked once. Uh, he's hey.
Speaker 2: He threw the ball to seven different receivers, six different
Speaker 2: receiver caught a pass. He was thirty two completions, two
Speaker 2: under the eighty three yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Played very very well.
Speaker 2: They didn't run the ball great tonight, but they ran
Speaker 2: the ball well enough because now play action is sent
Speaker 2: up off of the running game, and you saw a
Speaker 2: lot of those crossing routes, a lot of the shake
Speaker 2: out out rock throws because of play action is so
Speaker 2: good because they can run it, and green Bay had
Speaker 2: to honor that.
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 2: Guys were wide open. But I was very impressed with
Speaker 2: green Bay because they could have easily run ahead. But
Speaker 2: give them credit. They came out forced to turnover right
Speaker 2: away and even took the lead. And they went back
Speaker 2: and forth, back and forth, back and forth. But the
Speaker 2: play of the game was when Detroit stopped him from
Speaker 2: getting into the end zone and they only could tie.
Speaker 2: It had been very interesting to see. I still believe
Speaker 2: that Detroit was gonna go down to get a touchdown
Speaker 2: even if they needed it, because they matched the intensity
Speaker 2: once green Bay took the lead. Now they went down
Speaker 2: there and got touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, and they're going forward
Speaker 2: on fourth down and pick it up every time. But
Speaker 2: I like what I saw from the Detroit Lions. They've
Speaker 2: been very, very impressive. I think they're the best team
Speaker 2: in football right now, followed closely by the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3: Oh yo, what did you like about what you saw
Speaker 3: from this ballgame?
Speaker 1: Listen forget the ball game in general. I like what
Speaker 1: I like what I saw from Dan Campbell. I liked
Speaker 1: what I saw from Dan Campbell. When you talk about
Speaker 1: having Cojone's and you talk about having tescos the size
Speaker 1: of a goddamn.
Speaker 5: Tyronosaurus Rex, that's Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1: The fact that he changed the entire coach over there
Speaker 1: to a winning culture, and he believed when you have
Speaker 1: a coach like THATNK man that's willing to go for
Speaker 1: it on four down, you.
Speaker 5: Know what that's telling your players.
Speaker 1: I believe in y'all. I believe in you so that energy,
Speaker 1: I mean to play for somebody like Dan Campbell, who's
Speaker 1: also who's the players coach who also played in the NFL,
Speaker 1: has to be one of the greatest feelings for that
Speaker 1: organization and those players in general, because stuff like that
Speaker 1: it makes you want to run through a wall for
Speaker 1: a person, It makes you want to run through a
Speaker 1: wall for a coach like that.
Speaker 5: Only who coaches like that. Not only does he doesn't
Speaker 5: play conservative, he's playing all.
Speaker 1: He's playing balls to the walls, regardless of the scenario,
Speaker 1: regardless of circumstance, and it's dope, And I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they are twelve and one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's all. He's constantly peal to the medal. He's
Speaker 2: constantly putting pressure. Not only does he put pressure on
Speaker 2: his offense, I mean on the opposing defense. He's putting
Speaker 2: pressure on his defense also because sometimes situations you properly
Speaker 2: could give those guys the opposing team the football at
Speaker 2: midfield or maybe even in your territory. But he just
Speaker 2: has that much confidence in his team. He said, offense,
Speaker 2: I have the utmost confidence in you that you're gonna
Speaker 2: get this, and if you don't, defense, I have the
Speaker 2: utmost confidence that you're not going to give up a
Speaker 2: touchdown and you're gonna hold it.
Speaker 3: You're gonna hold him.
Speaker 2: At worst case scenario, you're gonna give him three points
Speaker 2: or we're gonna get the football back with no damage done.
Speaker 2: And so that sends a message you're absolutely right, oh yo.
Speaker 2: That resonates with his ball club. And you hear the
Speaker 2: guys the way they talk about Dan care They absolutely
Speaker 2: one thousand percent believe in him. Uh, he's the facto leader,
Speaker 2: and I love the fact One voice, one sound. Hey, hey,
Speaker 2: calboy fans, y'all would love to have that with you.
Speaker 2: One voice, one sound, Mike Tomlin, one voice, one sound,
Speaker 2: Kansas City, one voice, one sound. That's what you do.
Speaker 2: That's the heartbeat.
Speaker 5: And you notice, you notice the difference of all the
Speaker 5: teams that.
Speaker 3: You just named, Yeah did win it?
Speaker 1: You notice what they able to do consistently year in
Speaker 1: the year out when all right, it ain't it ain't wrong.
Speaker 2: A science and the coach and the coach and the
Speaker 2: coach voice. The coach is the end all be all.
Speaker 2: But when you got people, you know, you got people
Speaker 2: that want to be all in your video all of
Speaker 2: you know, dancing and shine, trying to shine and trying
Speaker 2: to steal everybody else thunder.
Speaker 3: This is what you get. This is exactly what you get.
Speaker 2: Hey, Even though yeah, phely here, Sirianna, you might not
Speaker 2: like some of the things he said, and you know
Speaker 2: he might be getting into it with the fans, but
Speaker 2: you know you're high roseman. You don't hear Jeffrey Loriie.
Speaker 2: You go to Buffalo, you don't hear the goola's talking.
Speaker 5: Now you're hit mcgurrett. That's it, that's.
Speaker 3: It, and that's how it should be.
Speaker 5: One man, one sound.
Speaker 3: That's the way it should be.
Speaker 2: Jordan Love finished twelve or twenty, only got twenty passes
Speaker 2: two hundred and six yards of touchdown to Tucker Craft.
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs had a monster game. He didn't rush for
Speaker 2: a ton of yards though, shoe, but he got the
Speaker 2: ball into the en zone three times. That's the one
Speaker 2: thing that he can do that. He has a sense
Speaker 2: for getting the ball into the end zone. He's gonna
Speaker 2: find a way to slither his way. He'll power his
Speaker 2: way because he can run with power. He can run
Speaker 2: with for nest. He had great hands. He's yes, he's
Speaker 2: really good, but I was really impressed with the packers.
Speaker 2: That was a short week and you have to travel
Speaker 2: and both teams.
Speaker 3: You're not doing it. You're not doing it.
Speaker 2: Basically, it's a whole lot of walk through to the
Speaker 2: whole lot of film study. Your body's not really fully
Speaker 2: recovered yet, and I'm surprised more people don't get injured Oho,
Speaker 2: because you have such a short week.
Speaker 3: You play on.
Speaker 2: Sunday, and then guess what, Monday, Tuesday, you gotta travel Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and then you playing normally. Hell I didn't start to
Speaker 2: feel good once I got it like your seven year eight.
Speaker 2: Hell I ain't start feeling good to your Friday.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The funny thing I think about it too, and the
Speaker 1: fact that even on these short weeks, you know from
Speaker 1: a thirty to a Sunday or a Sunday to a Thursday.
Speaker 5: I think about the fact that we're in week thirteen win.
Speaker 1: Week twelve, so the body should be adjusted and enough
Speaker 1: enough wear and tear has been built up to this
Speaker 1: point to where you should be able to adjust to it,
Speaker 1: even though it's a short week.
Speaker 3: You adjusted them lists bad. I'll be woke. I bet
Speaker 3: I'll be woke.
Speaker 2: Massages and cold tub but like, But then the thing
Speaker 2: is ojoe is that, like you said, you're not out
Speaker 2: there running. Basically, it's a lot of walkthroughs, it's a
Speaker 2: lot of film study. You're running plays that you're very
Speaker 2: very comfortable with.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: You know, it looks we're in the same division and
Speaker 2: these coaches have been in play for an extended period
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 3: We know what you do. You know what we do?
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, who can out execute the other player of
Speaker 2: the other team by doing what we do? We believe
Speaker 2: we can do it. We do better than what you
Speaker 2: can do. That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: They made they got a turnover, uh, one turn up, well,
Speaker 2: two turnovers. Detroit got one and Green Bay got one
Speaker 2: because Christian Watson former the football. Uh and Detroit went
Speaker 2: ahead and took that in and then golf through an
Speaker 2: interception and then the Packers go right down the field.
Speaker 3: Score.
Speaker 2: But this was a very good game. Detroit. Detroit is
Speaker 2: really good. Man, Yeah, it's really good. But I'm still
Speaker 2: as good as they are. Oh show after watching the Eagles,
Speaker 2: Eagles right there, there ain't much separation between them and
Speaker 2: the Eagles.
Speaker 5: And that's on both sides of the ball. Too. That's
Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: Listen, the Lions got got Gibbs in Montgomery, but Saquan
Speaker 1: is able to do the exact same.
Speaker 5: Game Well, I like game well, game well is nice too.
Speaker 2: And plus let me cut, let me the station right here,
Speaker 2: and and Jay, you got Jalen Hurts. Yeah, so golf
Speaker 2: golf doesn't add anything to the running game like Hurts
Speaker 2: add to the Eagles running game. You have give, you
Speaker 2: have knus for whatever they call themselves. But that's where
Speaker 2: it stops, because you're getting nothing out of the quarterback, right.
Speaker 5: I think I think you know what.
Speaker 1: For what they lack in quarterback playing from a dual
Speaker 1: quarterback standpoint, with golf being a strictly a drop back passer,
Speaker 1: they make up for it the wide receiver position though, Yes,
Speaker 1: they make up for it. And that's not taking anything
Speaker 1: away from Devonte Smith and uh and god damn A J.
Speaker 3: Brown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then and then both both defenses are really good.
Speaker 5: Now the second level for for the Lions, it's a
Speaker 5: little off. It's a little off.
Speaker 3: The second too many holding though.
Speaker 2: Joe, too many passing affairs, too many holdings.
Speaker 5: Carry on, Carry.
Speaker 2: Carry on, Joseph, You know, bro, Yeah, they got, they got,
Speaker 2: they got.
Speaker 1: They got to work on that. They have to learn
Speaker 1: to be patient. They got to learn to be patient
Speaker 1: and use their eyes a little bit more. Keep yourself
Speaker 1: in position. You keep yourself in position to make a play,
Speaker 1: trying to keep the receiver always either in front of
Speaker 1: you or stand on top of him. You're always be
Speaker 1: in a safe spot and be able to get your
Speaker 1: eyes around.
Speaker 5: Anytime you're panting, the.
Speaker 1: First thing you do is you pull, You pull your tug.
Speaker 2: And I'm afraid what's gonna happen with jo I can
Speaker 2: see this happening. They gotta have to be careful because
Speaker 2: you're gonna get in a situation where it's laying the
Speaker 2: ball game and you're gonna do what you've always done
Speaker 2: with your tug and everybody go say you way down
Speaker 2: to throw it when it's an obvious p I I
Speaker 2: don't know what.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 5: Artless do it.
Speaker 2: I mean he gets at least one a game, and
Speaker 2: sometimes they decline him for the simple fact that God
Speaker 2: didn't make the catch. But he's gonna have to be better.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to be better in that area. But
Speaker 2: Detroit is really, really good of Zadarius Smith has another sack.
Speaker 2: He's playing extremely well. But I like what I see
Speaker 2: from Detroit. I like what I saw from Detroit. Now
Speaker 2: you get ten days, you get some time off, O Joe.
Speaker 2: You got Friday Saturday Sunday. Coach Campbell probably not going
Speaker 2: to want to see the guys until at least noon
Speaker 2: on Monday. You come in, get your run, get your
Speaker 2: lift in, you know, try to get some of that
Speaker 2: sword and inside. I mean, hey, some people might go
Speaker 2: out of town, but I was gonna go in and
Speaker 2: get me a run in.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not going nowhere. I'm gonna go get
Speaker 3: my run in.
Speaker 1: As matter of fact, matter of fact, knowing knowing Dan,
Speaker 1: being that he's a player's coach and they're playing so well,
Speaker 1: being twelve and one, he probably gonna let them boys go. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: y'all get away from here, get off your feet, get
Speaker 1: away from football, get away from football for a few days,
Speaker 1: and when you come back, be ready to go.
Speaker 2: Well, damn if they give. If they get Friday Saturday Sunday,
Speaker 2: they had enough time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean three days after thirteen weeks. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know they just had a buy yeah,
Speaker 1: but listen, Thanksgiving. Listen, the real football doesn't start until
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, so right now to be they want to know.
Speaker 3: Hold on, ojo.
Speaker 2: They got a full week because they played on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: so they got a normal it's a normal week for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3: So so guess what they got.
Speaker 2: So they got an opportunity to oho, to have Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 2: Sunday off, Sunday off last week. Then they come Monday, Tuesday,
Speaker 2: travel Wednesday, boom. Right, right, they should be good. Now
Speaker 2: they probably was hurting. You play Sunday and then you
Speaker 2: got Thanksgiving Day. Now you got a whole week in between.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure coach CaMV I don't know what the
Speaker 2: strategy is. He might help. He might say, hey, I'll
Speaker 2: see y'all Wednesday. Yeah, come in, hey, come in tomorrow,
Speaker 2: get your run, get your lift, get some swordings out,
Speaker 2: and I'll see you guys on Wednesday. See you guys
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, bright nerve. Yeah, that could be. That could
Speaker 2: be the approach that he takes. But this was a
Speaker 2: very good game, very interesting game, too. Good two teams,
Speaker 2: both teams are in the same conference. One Minnesota's ten
Speaker 2: and two, green Bay ninety four. But green Bay sneaky good.
Speaker 2: Well they're not sneaky, they're just really good. DAK defended
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, said, I whole heartedly believe in him. DAK
Speaker 2: thinks McCarthy deserves another contract. He also said he would
Speaker 2: help McCarthy McCarthy if he had more influence on the
Speaker 2: team's development, but McCarthy said he's confused by dak comments.
Speaker 2: According to Clarence Hill, the Cowboys, Cowboys coach, McCartney said
Speaker 2: he had the most input he's ever had his head coach,
Speaker 2: oh Lord Mercy.
Speaker 3: Coach compared to Green Bay.
Speaker 2: He is not sure what DAK meant by needing him
Speaker 2: influence on his terms. We know Mike McCarthy does not
Speaker 2: have thank you. He's the head coaching title.
Speaker 5: Only listen you just.
Speaker 1: In a disrespect or disrespectful way for those that understand
Speaker 1: the game of football, for those who know about when
Speaker 1: it comes to being the coach of the Dallas Cowboys organization.
Speaker 5: But that's start the helmet.
Speaker 1: There's one person that runs the show and it's not
Speaker 1: the head coach, and it's always it's always been that way.
Speaker 1: You have no pull you know exactly what Dak meant
Speaker 1: by the words.
Speaker 2: That he said, yes, and I'm not I'm taking Dak
Speaker 2: what he said with a grain of salt, because guess
Speaker 2: what he said. He wanted Scott Lenahan. He said he
Speaker 2: wanted Kellen Moore. He said he wanted Jason Garrett. He
Speaker 2: said he wanted this one and he wanted that one.
Speaker 2: So what's he supposed to say? Nah, I want Mike Mcca,
Speaker 2: I want another head coach, I want another play caller.
Speaker 2: Of course, he's gonna say all the right things because
Speaker 2: if you go back and check his track track record,
Speaker 2: O Joe, he said the exact same thing about every
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, about every head coach that he's had.
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to, you have to. He has
Speaker 5: to be PC.
Speaker 1: He's a quarterback. He's the face of the franchise no
Speaker 1: matter what. So he has to say all the right things.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's gonna come out and go against
Speaker 1: you know, his his head coach.
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, Mike.
Speaker 2: You no, no, it should it. But I'm saying for
Speaker 2: him to say, Mike, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Do you have any say on the final fifty three?
Speaker 2: Do you have any say in free agency, do you
Speaker 2: have any say in the draft? So if that, if
Speaker 2: that's the case, so I'm just trying to figure out,
Speaker 2: what do you mean you have some saint.
Speaker 1: Wait then he say he had more say, more control,
Speaker 1: and more say than than he had in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I disagree.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, oh Joe, maybe at the end, maybe at
Speaker 2: the end he didn't have the same amount of say.
Speaker 2: But it's hard for me to believe throughout his entire
Speaker 2: tenure that he had more say in Dallas that he
Speaker 2: had in Green Bay.
Speaker 5: You know what they did, right, that's what you know.
Speaker 5: Damn well, stop playing.
Speaker 2: Well see now by saying that, you know, you take
Speaker 2: some of the owners off Jerry, So we can't blame
Speaker 2: Jerry fully. So Jerry can say, oh see, he would
Speaker 2: out there say that he had some say. Let's get
Speaker 2: his answer up out of here, because we lose it.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Now, don't hide and Jerry come back and fire back
Speaker 1: in his own way, his own meticulous way, because you
Speaker 1: know he can't.
Speaker 5: He can't stay from front that goddamn camera.
Speaker 2: Mike Florio believe the Bear should discuss the trade for
Speaker 2: Shannahan with the forty nine ers. The Bears are also
Speaker 2: expected to interview Pete Carroll. I don't believe they need
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator as a head coach. I believe now
Speaker 2: if Pete Carroll's gonna go, get them a Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 2: or get someone that's good with this type of quarterback.
Speaker 2: This type of quarterback, I mean, Caleb Williams. Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: but you better have someone that has offensive ingenuity, that's
Speaker 2: forward thinking creativity.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love I love Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5: I love Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: But the idea of Shannonhan and his offensive prowess and
Speaker 1: his creativity and what he can do when it comes
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks in the creativity and taking some the pressure
Speaker 1: off of Hyley Williams hit where he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: do so much because the offense does everything for you,
Speaker 1: putting people, putting the putting pieces in the right places
Speaker 1: and allowing that team to function and flow offensively. And
Speaker 1: he got the pieces to do it.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen DJ Moore, you know, yeah, you got swift.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying the four, but I'm just saying you do.
Speaker 1: And obviously the office line has some work that needs
Speaker 1: to be done here as well, but he has a
Speaker 1: great arsenal weapons to work with. I'm just saying, if
Speaker 1: the switch was to happen, I think it would improve
Speaker 1: that off that that Chicago bears offense tremendously.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I see your own spirit WiFi tonight me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm talking to you, Joe. Damn who you think I'm
Speaker 3: talking to?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Okay, listen, stay with me real quick, stay with me now.
Speaker 3: Listen.
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Speaker 1: So just being with me for any any any lags
Speaker 1: or lagging, I apologize, I'll be I'll be back on
Speaker 1: business Saturday. Okay, so bad, I'm bad, you know.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick interview for UNC's the University of North Carolina
Speaker 2: head coaching vacancy. He reportedly blew them away in the interview.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why y'all surprised by that.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick seemed genuinely interest interested in the job. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: at the age of seventy two. Coach Belichick has no
Speaker 2: prior college experience. O Chell, Do you like coach Belichick
Speaker 2: going back?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not, Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I want at some point I would love for coach
Speaker 1: Belichick to get the most wins as a head coaching
Speaker 1: in fail pass shoot up, and he can't get that
Speaker 1: done going to North Carolina. I think going to college
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing, but there's a disadvantage due
Speaker 1: to the competition level being, the the playing field being
Speaker 1: even because of n I L. I don't think Bill
Speaker 1: needs to get into that realm in that area where
Speaker 1: you're not really getting the players you need to have
Speaker 1: a winning season or actually to be able to compete
Speaker 1: at a high level. I would prefer Bill to stay
Speaker 1: with us at inside the NFL until the right job
Speaker 1: comes to his.
Speaker 5: To the right to the right NFL job comes, you know,
Speaker 5: the right one.
Speaker 1: Where he can continue to to win and strive to
Speaker 1: get into reaching that goal of being the most the
Speaker 1: most winning is NFL here coach Ever.
Speaker 2: I think, oh Joe, Coach Belichick, it had to be
Speaker 2: a huge crush to his ego. You're talking about the
Speaker 2: guy who won six Super Bowls and he ain't getting
Speaker 2: none of the jobs. There was six or seven jobs
Speaker 2: that were available, and he got none of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he got none of them.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, though, Yes, thinking about this,
Speaker 1: of those six or seven jobs that are available, which
Speaker 1: one would have been the best fit that can get
Speaker 1: where he can continue his reign of dominance.
Speaker 2: No, we ain't got no quarterback. I mean, you got
Speaker 2: a quarterback, but you ain't got Tom Brady. But at
Speaker 2: this point, Ojo, let me ask you a question. You're
Speaker 2: the You're the best receiver in football.
Speaker 1: That's me, that's me.
Speaker 2: You you you got, you got all the records. You done,
Speaker 2: had six straight one hundred catch seasons. You had six
Speaker 2: straight seasons at least thirteen hunder yards, six straight seasons
Speaker 2: of ten touchdown. Oh well, okay, they move on and
Speaker 2: you can't find one job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, can I tell you something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's become a young man's game.
Speaker 5: Not only has this young man's game, it's become a
Speaker 5: young coaches game.
Speaker 1: Well mm hmm. But Bill to speak for itself, it
Speaker 1: speaks volumes. It's all about Bill being able to adapt
Speaker 1: today today's players.
Speaker 5: To today's era.
Speaker 1: Can he change some of the things that he did
Speaker 1: during the old days some of the old ways and
Speaker 1: try to try to revamp, like you know, I tell
Speaker 1: you got these sometimes you got evolved.
Speaker 5: You can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't do the things you did back in the
Speaker 1: day and think it's gonna work in today's era. You
Speaker 1: know the players that I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think these kids don't carry about No rest may.
Speaker 5: Know, the kids don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the organizations might might if he goes
Speaker 1: in and letting and shows that he can adapt to
Speaker 1: the kids in today's era.
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. I couldn't couldn't be wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he can he adapt. It's hard, o Jo,
Speaker 2: when you've been in your It's hard when you've done
Speaker 2: something one way and had ultimate success doing it that way.
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you mean to tell me
Speaker 2: to do a one eighty Yeah cool, Oh Cho, that's hard.
Speaker 2: And the kids today, oh Cho. There's not the same
Speaker 2: level of respect for coaching and authority that it once
Speaker 2: was what you and I grew up with, and the
Speaker 2: way we see it gradually gradually dissipating, where the coach
Speaker 2: is authority and the coach's voice is not as powerful.
Speaker 3: As it once was. Now it is in some locker rooms.
Speaker 2: But I remember five years ago, ten five years ago,
Speaker 2: coach Belicheck walk into a locker room with that resume. Yeah, now, everybody,
Speaker 2: the first thing they're gonna call it a question. He
Speaker 2: didn't want to know what I go. He didn't want
Speaker 2: know without Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just want I just be what out
Speaker 3: with you? Right?
Speaker 1: But you know what I see, especially with the young
Speaker 1: players that looked up to looked up to him as
Speaker 1: a coach, in respect what he's done.
Speaker 5: I think he can walk.
Speaker 1: Into a locker room and it'd be instant respect, even
Speaker 1: from the young, even from the young guns, even from.
Speaker 2: The young so yo, you see now to get young
Speaker 2: guys are disrespectful to the veteran players.
Speaker 3: So you think they yeah, yeah, the respect that we
Speaker 3: used to have for for.
Speaker 2: Authority, not forget forget the resume, just for authority, even
Speaker 2: if it was somebody that wasn't related to us, but
Speaker 2: they were older than ough or they were in an
Speaker 2: authoritative position.
Speaker 3: Oh you, we held them in respect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I ain't the same now, Oh yo, I
Speaker 5: know what you mean.
Speaker 1: But listen, Bill, Bill is a different figure on either
Speaker 1: He's a legend at this you know, I think the
Speaker 1: players with respect, that's that's a legend. This ain't just
Speaker 1: no any coach. Oh shit, I'm playing for goddamn Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: the one who's won six of the bolls, who knows
Speaker 1: how to win. You know, That's that's just how I
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 3: You talk how you talk, that's how you're thinking. Right.
Speaker 3: But you wasn't on your phone.
Speaker 2: You wasn't on your phone student the game with over
Speaker 2: to see what somebody said negative about Ojo, so you
Speaker 2: could confront a receiver, I mean a reporter.
Speaker 3: That is what you did.
Speaker 2: You wasn't on your thing trying to find out, well,
Speaker 2: who says something negative about me?
Speaker 3: Because I had an off game? That is't what you did.
Speaker 2: Coach, tell you one thing, you go do something else,
Speaker 2: because hey, I know better than coach. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: very very interesting, very interesting to see because you and
Speaker 2: I both know the longer you away from something, the
Speaker 2: harder it is to get back into it. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: just talked about the separation in a relationship. Okay, we
Speaker 2: start out at a week, two weeks and a month,
Speaker 2: two months, a year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, once you get to the month, you know,
Speaker 5: what that Do you know what that means?
Speaker 2: They don't mean nothing, O Joe. I'm just saying month,
Speaker 2: six months. Now you're getting six months now, you not,
Speaker 2: o Cho. Now you it's the old saying. Now you're
Speaker 2: crossing the rubercon. That means you're reaching the point of
Speaker 2: no return.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I've been there before.
Speaker 1: I've been I've been to the rubicon back in eighty seven.
Speaker 5: And I tell you, I tell you no, lie. Now,
Speaker 5: I'll never forget her.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's the story I can say for another day. But
Speaker 1: the name of they call it, they call her ruby.
Speaker 1: They called it ruby red. Her name of Ruby red.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had red hair too, That's why we called
Speaker 1: it ruby red.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 3: And so it's gonna be I hope.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick, I mean, I look, there are some things
Speaker 2: the way he did things wouldn't handle the media. But
Speaker 2: I think now, I don't you know his his his coaching, optman,
Speaker 2: is not to be questioned.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He knows the game forward and backwards. Now for me,
Speaker 2: it probably had I got drafted to coach Belichick. See,
Speaker 2: it's easy to get drafted somewhere, o Cho, and go
Speaker 2: there because that's all.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Had I gone some where else and then had to
Speaker 2: play for coach Reeves, it probably would have been a
Speaker 2: little different different. But he was hell from day so
Speaker 2: that's all I knew. See, if you raised in hell
Speaker 2: and all you've ever dealt with with the devil, so
Speaker 2: you go to another devil, you cool.
Speaker 3: Hell.
Speaker 5: I've been with the devil my whole life, right right right.
Speaker 2: But to go somewhere where you don't have to deal
Speaker 2: with the devil, and now you gotta deal with it.
Speaker 2: Now you got hell on your hand. Fit figuratively and literally.
Speaker 2: But I hope coach you Belichick gets a chance. I
Speaker 2: think he deserved the opportunity. Well, I think with his
Speaker 2: resume and what he's done and how he's been, he's
Speaker 2: had some some slip ups, but I think he's earned
Speaker 2: the right to at least get a one more chance
Speaker 2: to try to break that record. Absolutely absolutely, and uh
Speaker 2: if he if he, if he gets it, Hey.
Speaker 1: I know I know one thing, I've already already put
Speaker 1: my I put my word in. I put my word in.
Speaker 1: If if at any you do get a job, you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna bring you on as an assistant.
Speaker 3: Okay, A lot of former players have chimed in on
Speaker 3: the ausher of ze Asher hit On, Trevor Lawrence, Bill Romanowski,
Speaker 3: my former teammate, said H one was dirty, but I
Speaker 3: loved it. Sounds like Romo.
Speaker 2: Joe Thomas says the NFL needs to ban weaponize quarterback slides.
Speaker 2: Tom Brady suggested the NFL needs to change the rules
Speaker 2: to penalize late slide. Tom Brady says something very interesting.
Speaker 2: He said, they're putting their owners on the defense. Tom
Speaker 2: Brady is the wrong messenger because Tom they had a
Speaker 2: rule change. Does he not know the Brady rule was
Speaker 2: instituted to protect him. He's I get it, I get
Speaker 2: what he's saying, O Joe, but he's the wrong messenger
Speaker 2: because a lot of these rules that they was put
Speaker 2: in place to protect the quarterback he been deefitted from.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like what we see with a lot
Speaker 2: of hispanis when they talking about, yeah, the deport de
Speaker 2: port when they got over here. We see that, we
Speaker 2: know how they got over here. See it's easy to
Speaker 2: say that exposed fact though out here now, I don't
Speaker 2: give it close it, don't let nobody else over. Tom
Speaker 2: Brady said, well, hell, I ain't gotta take no more hits.
Speaker 2: Barnish the quarterback, really bro really yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: get everything that they said on Joe the Late Slide.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is notorious for that film. He's going to
Speaker 2: slide and then he whither and finagel. No, that's wrong,
Speaker 2: punish it because uh all my listener, all my Ross Brown.
Speaker 2: He said that Cayler Williams had a habit of pretending
Speaker 2: like he's gonna go out of bounds and and and
Speaker 2: you're and they showed the clip Dan Campbell say if
Speaker 2: he does if he does this, y'all punish his ass.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. That's why they didn't throw
Speaker 2: a flag because he won. He said he had a
Speaker 2: habit of doing this. We're gonna put We're gonna put
Speaker 2: helmets on his ass. See, I might not I can
Speaker 2: stop him from doing it, but I break his answer
Speaker 2: the habit Grandma saying I might not stop you, but
Speaker 2: I break your the habit. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Tom is the wrong messenger when he benefited one of
Speaker 2: he was one of the most benefit areas off the
Speaker 2: rule change to protect the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe so how is he gonna say this now?
Speaker 1: I think he's saying it because of the way the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are taking advantage of the rule.
Speaker 3: Can of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah you know he can't. He can't scramble, he can't run.
Speaker 1: He couldn't run.
Speaker 5: Now they they took he took advantage of it in
Speaker 5: the pocket.
Speaker 1: Yes, so the owners at that point it's on the
Speaker 1: defensive player.
Speaker 2: Why he said the owner shouldn't be on the defensive
Speaker 2: player to protect the offensive player. That's what he's saying.
Speaker 2: So why is it on the owners when his asses
Speaker 2: in the pocket?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: But I okay, well, I want you to give you
Speaker 3: a good assw.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you better context for those that
Speaker 1: are running quarterbacks, that are that choose to take advantage
Speaker 1: of the situation that they know well, you know, I
Speaker 1: could fake it. I could act got him and guard
Speaker 1: to bounds and I'm gonna take it up the field.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it up the sideline. So Shazir, I
Speaker 1: understand that. I understand that was a late slide. That
Speaker 1: was a late slide by the I'm getting me say,
Speaker 1: Jerry Goff, that was a late slide by Trevor, No,
Speaker 1: you got you got to protect yourself.
Speaker 3: That wasn't a slide.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you do realize how tall Trevor Lord seals.
Speaker 2: That's no late o cho, Oh Joe, it wasn't a
Speaker 2: late slide.
Speaker 3: But when you six foot five, you make it seem
Speaker 3: like he Kyler Burry.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of man to get down into a
Speaker 2: sliding position. How many times you see how many times
Speaker 2: you see Aaron Judge stealer base? Do you know how
Speaker 2: hard it is for him to get his ass down
Speaker 2: and slide unless they ain't got nobody in that position
Speaker 2: that they got a shift on or something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what. But here's the thing, just like a quarterback
Speaker 2: when they fake spight it and then throw the ball,
Speaker 2: what about that, Ojo? Should you be allowed to do that?
Speaker 1: I ain't really seen that since Farno against.
Speaker 3: Jess that do it?
Speaker 5: They still do it.
Speaker 3: I think the quarterbacks are afraid now.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's on a handful of quarterbacks
Speaker 2: have done have done that since that, since Danny. But
Speaker 2: and they put in the Jags to finish up Ojo.
Speaker 2: The Jags place Trevor Lawrence on injury reserve yesterday, likely
Speaker 2: ending his season. I think he's gonna have surgery when
Speaker 2: he was dealing with something before before this. Let okay,
Speaker 2: see he's had he had showed the issues before that, Ojo.
Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is this, I understand what Tom
Speaker 2: is saying, but as a quarterback that's benefited from it,
Speaker 2: you can't say, o Jo. You can't say, change the
Speaker 2: tax code when you benefited from the old tax code
Speaker 2: and you've made millions and billions. Now, hey close it,
Speaker 2: close that loop hole. They don't let nobody else do that.
Speaker 2: It's like a portal. We see these sci fi movie
Speaker 2: where they jump through the portal and then they're trying
Speaker 2: to close.
Speaker 3: It's okay, nobody else, bro.
Speaker 5: What's up? Yeah, you're right. I understand what you mean.
Speaker 3: But that's that listen.
Speaker 2: And I get it that they're gonna have to do
Speaker 2: something about this, Like you can't fake like you're on
Speaker 2: a slide because they changed the rules in college because
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett and he pretends like you to go slide
Speaker 2: and he kept running and they ended up winning the game.
Speaker 2: So you can't do that now. And they're gonna, hey,
Speaker 2: if you want to change the rules, But once that
Speaker 2: guy go into a slide. Because once he goes into
Speaker 2: that motion, O Joe, Like I said, he's a big
Speaker 2: ass man. That's a lot to go from a fully
Speaker 2: upright position into a sliding position.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, but listen with the understanding of that being
Speaker 1: that you're a bigger man. I mean, you got to
Speaker 1: start that slide a little earlier.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm not saying Tom Brady, Tom I'm saying Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: And it put it from rules that protected the quarterback.
Speaker 2: So imagine if you couldn't hit the quarterbacks with Lway
Speaker 2: and Marino. Because I give you prime example, Trent Green
Speaker 2: lost his starting job in Saint Louis. That's how we
Speaker 2: came to see Kurt Warner. Rodney Harrison did the exact
Speaker 2: same thing to Trent Green that Bennett Pollard did the
Speaker 2: Tom Brady did they.
Speaker 3: Change the rules?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not the moment they did it to Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: What did they do? They called it the Brady rule.
Speaker 2: A quarterback now a defender. He can't tackle the quarterback
Speaker 2: below the knee. Yeah, he can't hit He could only
Speaker 2: hit the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: You can't drive your weight until the quarterback you got
Speaker 2: the baby him down, you got it. If I got him,
Speaker 2: I got to do like this. And you see a
Speaker 2: lot of guys sacked the quarner or hit the quarterback.
Speaker 2: They got their arms spread and tried to dissipate the
Speaker 2: amount of weight that's going on the quarterback. So all
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I didn't say Tom was, but you can
Speaker 2: benefit from rules. Even though said that situation maybe wasn't
Speaker 2: applicable for him, but he did benefit from rules that
Speaker 2: would implement it to protect the quarterback. Right, So you
Speaker 2: want to see them change the rules. So what would
Speaker 2: you have them do? Go away with the slide, so
Speaker 2: now quarterback can't give himself up.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 1: That's part of the game. That's part of the game.
Speaker 1: You definitely can't take that out. But I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think you would have to put the
Speaker 1: onus on the quarterback and being smart and being able
Speaker 1: to slide early based on situation and circumstances depending on
Speaker 1: what defenders are. And I think defenders have to protect
Speaker 1: themselves and understand the situation in hand, and knowing that
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks on slide and also knowing who you play against,
Speaker 1: you know you got some quarterbacks out are localheads, you know.
Speaker 5: Right, they're dropped shoulder. They're dropped shoulder now exactly.
Speaker 1: You have some quarterbacks that just really he ain't like that,
Speaker 1: and you know they gonna they're gonna get down the slide.
Speaker 1: It's all about knowing who you plan against.
Speaker 3: Uh, what we got.
Speaker 2: Despite his struggles, Aaron Rodgers says he has nothing to
Speaker 2: prove over the final Fast five game and burned that
Speaker 2: his career compliments should supersede. See I told you should
Speaker 2: supersede his performance down the stretch. He said it would
Speaker 2: be ridiculous to make a player with his resume audition
Speaker 2: for next season. Oh Joe, this is why we love
Speaker 2: professional sports, because what must you do every week?
Speaker 3: O Joe? Update your resume?
Speaker 5: U update your resume.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, what
Speaker 2: has those four m vps done for the Giant the
Speaker 2: Jets this year? That's what you do every time you
Speaker 2: step on the field, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: I'm playing for my job.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you're you already know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Though you're you're you already know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: You know how difficult it is to find a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know how long they just be looking for a quarterback?
Speaker 3: You're looking? Yeah, I know they still.
Speaker 1: Look at even though Aaron Rodgers is playing back. It's
Speaker 1: the possibility, is the thought. It's the hope that he's
Speaker 1: gonna play like the Aaron Rodgers of bold and even
Speaker 1: even if he shows a glimpse of flashes of the
Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers, maybe for the Jets organization, maybe that's
Speaker 1: just enough to give them hope that things may change.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 5: So if there's an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Or a chance for him to come back next year,
Speaker 1: guess where he's gonna be because of who he is
Speaker 1: and because of the exact same thing he said, Because
Speaker 1: if his resumeate, he gonna get a chance just because
Speaker 1: it's him.
Speaker 3: Uh uh uh. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't know Woody Johnson like a
Speaker 2: lot of other people, they seem to see that he
Speaker 2: and the owner of the Jets, Woody Johnson, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like they don't see eye to eye. There's reports
Speaker 2: that he wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers at some point
Speaker 2: in time this year. Coaches fought back at it and
Speaker 2: fought back against that. If they want me to stay fantastic.
Speaker 2: If it takes these five games, maybe they don't know
Speaker 2: what I bring to the table.
Speaker 3: Nothing this year.
Speaker 2: But that being said, I love to play really freaking
Speaker 2: well these last five games. It's oh, Joe, you see,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. He thinks that the normal rules
Speaker 2: for an NFL player. Joe Montana. Yeah, he didn't finish.
Speaker 2: He didn't finish in San Francisco. Em And Smith, Bruce Smith,
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, some of the historic great players.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of.
Speaker 2: Top one hundred players that did not finish their career
Speaker 2: with the team that drafted them. But somehow Aaron think
Speaker 2: he should be exempt because of his resume.
Speaker 5: And can I can I tell you something?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And that chat do y'all listen to me? Because his
Speaker 1: name is Aaron Rodgers, because of what he's done in
Speaker 1: the past, He's gonna get that grace simply because he's
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Even though some might not like it, we
Speaker 1: might not like it.
Speaker 5: It's just the honest truth.
Speaker 3: I believe there's a greater chance he plays elsewhere than
Speaker 3: with the Jets.
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't see it. Well, you know the Divanta
Speaker 1: is going after this. He's on He's on one year.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 5: You might be right.
Speaker 1: You might you might be right, as most of the
Speaker 1: pieces are gonna be going, you might be right. But
Speaker 1: where would that be?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean they talked about everybody keeps hoping to get
Speaker 2: the old Aaron Rodgers. You're just getting old Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not breaking news outside. Look if that
Speaker 2: man has if he had another name on the back
Speaker 2: of that jersey, ain't no way y'all say that man
Speaker 2: deserves to get get the money that he's making, deserves
Speaker 2: another opportunity or earned forget deserved because he feels he
Speaker 2: deserves because of his resume, not based on what he's done.
Speaker 3: Everybody else must feel I get this opportunity.
Speaker 2: I've earned the opportunity to play here Ojo, to play
Speaker 2: another season, to get another game. He feels he's deserving
Speaker 2: based on what he's done, not what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And you know the funny thing. You know what he
Speaker 1: can say it because he knows he's gonna get that opportunity.
Speaker 1: He knows he's gonna get that chance based on what
Speaker 1: he's done. Any other position tackles guards Stevens ends, centers,
Speaker 1: d tackles, cornerback, safeties will never be extended. That grace
Speaker 1: it's always this is there's always a special place for
Speaker 1: a quarterback, especially when it is done with Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has done in the past. Even today, even as bad
Speaker 1: as it is, he will get that grace because of
Speaker 1: what he's done in the past. The only position I
Speaker 1: can get away on that block him.
Speaker 2: Hm uh jamar Chase Dad said he could still win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl with the Cincinnati Bengals. If our defense
Speaker 2: was a little bit better, we would be in the
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Talk this offense is unstoppable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, talk talk, come on, talk Papa Chase.
Speaker 2: No oo oo, you can't. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Oh cho, people believe where is this coming from?
Speaker 3: Be it true? Or imagine who they believe he's speaking for?
Speaker 5: Then you're speaking for Chase.
Speaker 3: I ain't. No, it's not a rhetorical question. I asked
Speaker 3: you the quest.
Speaker 5: You know what, that's that's you know what, that's a
Speaker 5: good one.
Speaker 1: But in this case, in this case being that I
Speaker 1: know Papa Chase right, he's at He's at every game,
Speaker 1: he watches every game, he's going through all the games,
Speaker 1: and Chas has been a little kid based on what
Speaker 1: he can see from sitting in the stands.
Speaker 5: And going to home and away games. I think his
Speaker 5: I mean, you see it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's right there in front of you. I mean,
Speaker 1: he sees it every day.
Speaker 6: But he's not saying nothing. We're not saying I know
Speaker 6: I ain't said, but let me ask you this. Let's
Speaker 6: just say, for the sake, let's just say, for the
Speaker 6: sake of argument to me, you you with Dayton Rail
Speaker 6: rail and Rail said he Now, we can see you
Speaker 6: ain't getting to catch it. You ain't getting the targets
Speaker 6: that you normally get.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that my my man, Hey, they
Speaker 2: give him opportunity. Y'all see what if you do. Y'all know,
Speaker 2: y'all know, my man, he's been doing it for five
Speaker 2: or six years. They believe even though we can see it,
Speaker 2: do we believe that that's real talking or we believe
Speaker 2: that's real talking for oo that.
Speaker 1: That that that that's probably real talk about.
Speaker 2: Even though I agree with you that probably his own
Speaker 2: synopsis based on his knowledge of football is what he sees, right,
Speaker 2: But that's not how the media and that's not how
Speaker 2: people that watch will take.
Speaker 5: It, take it right.
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying now about it is normally
Speaker 1: would it comes to family members, family members, family members
Speaker 1: that really don't know the game like that, you know,
Speaker 1: they just they go to it because you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a family, it's a comber friend. But in this case, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm giving it the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt because we have somebody that's really integrated
Speaker 1: into the sport, that played the sport.
Speaker 5: Now he didn't make it to the highest level.
Speaker 1: But he is really into it like that, and he
Speaker 1: submerged himself into it now that it's some plays for
Speaker 1: the Bengals.
Speaker 5: So in this case, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 5: Maybe it might be something that Chase might say, but
Speaker 5: so Chase Papa Chase to say it for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was very conscious of what I said around anybody
Speaker 2: because but I but I always told my boy, I said, Mom,
Speaker 2: anything that you say, they're gonna feel that you got
Speaker 2: it from real spanky mm hmm, I said. My homeboy said, Bro,
Speaker 2: whatever y'all say, they gonna feel it came from me.
Speaker 2: Be always keep that in mind. You never know, just
Speaker 2: because you know that person. You don't know who that
Speaker 2: person knows. So they take what you said and they
Speaker 2: go back, Oh, yeah, you know that's that's man. That's
Speaker 2: a shop homeboy. That's it right here, Mane the one
Speaker 2: bucket and Mark. Yeah, it's gotta be some truth to it.
Speaker 2: So you just have to be mindful of what you
Speaker 2: say because you never know. That's one person, right, but
Speaker 2: he might know three or four people. And then you
Speaker 2: get four or five gres of degrees of separation, and
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, you something that you said innocently,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden grows legs. Y.
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you thing. You don't know. You've been
Speaker 3: in this game. You know how this thing works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely do. But the crazy about it, I
Speaker 1: don't have the stats in front of it. I think
Speaker 1: dan Olski ran him off to you when you'all on
Speaker 1: ESPN the other day about the losses that the Bangers
Speaker 1: have had and scoring twenty four points and scoring twenty
Speaker 1: eight points and scoring thirty four points, thirty eight points,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and all these losses because the
Speaker 1: defense is playing that bad. There used to be a
Speaker 1: time they said, you scored seventeen, you win the game.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you win the game.
Speaker 1: And so the fact that they've been able to be
Speaker 1: an offensive juggernaut weekend and week out and still lose games,
Speaker 1: it's like, come on that.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing where I pushed back on deal.
Speaker 2: I understand he has minimal turnovers, but look at the
Speaker 2: games they lost, and when he's turned the ball.
Speaker 5: Over over and in the wrong time.
Speaker 2: You might have one turnover, but guess what, they pulled
Speaker 2: it out and they tied the game up with your fumble. Okay,
Speaker 2: you had a three point lead, but guess what you
Speaker 2: threw in a seven They kick a field goal and
Speaker 2: now boom. So you see, people just keep looking at
Speaker 2: the number of turnovers.
Speaker 3: But look at when he turned the ball over.
Speaker 2: You and I have always we concluded, Oh Joe, all
Speaker 2: turnovers aren't created equal. You turn the ball over in
Speaker 2: the first quarter, it's a big difference than when you
Speaker 2: turn it over in the fourth quarter you up by
Speaker 2: three or you down three. That turnover weighs differently than
Speaker 2: in the first quarter when it's zero zero or seven
Speaker 2: three or seven nothing. And so you go back and
Speaker 2: look at look at when he turned the ball over
Speaker 2: against Baltimore. Look at when he turned the ball over
Speaker 2: against Kansas City. Look at when the game that he lost.
Speaker 2: When they turn the ball over, that has to And
Speaker 2: guess what fumbles are turnovers?
Speaker 3: Also?
Speaker 2: People just say, well, he ain't throw but four interceptions,
Speaker 2: But what about the fumbles? How many times has he fumbled?
Speaker 2: Those are turnovers also because guess what if your defense
Speaker 2: can't stop their offense, you definitely can't give their defense.
Speaker 3: You can't give the opposing defense points on your possessions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you already made it abundantly clear that you have
Speaker 2: to be damn near perfect. Even if you're not perfect,
Speaker 2: the one thing you can't do is to give the
Speaker 2: opposing offense a short field or give them points on
Speaker 2: your possessions. Because now you're like, well, damn, we can't
Speaker 2: stop them. We just gave them seven points. If we
Speaker 2: don't score here, ojo, when we come back on the field,
Speaker 2: the score is about to be ten nothing to fourteen, ohing.
Speaker 5: I guarantee you and put you right behind a ball.
Speaker 2: Now you're really now, you really really really got the press.
Speaker 2: I've been in situations where we couldn't turn. If we
Speaker 2: didn't turn the ball over, we weren't gonna lose but
Speaker 2: it's hard to play ojo because you're only gonna throw
Speaker 2: the ball on third down. They know you're gonna throw
Speaker 2: the ball on third down. So we see in an
Speaker 2: eight nine man box on first and second. Now, how
Speaker 2: difficult you think it's gonna damn be to try to
Speaker 2: get on third down where it's third and eight third,
Speaker 2: nine and they know you gonna throw it.
Speaker 1: You better make some hay on first and second down
Speaker 1: now and make those third guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you try, You try to get. Everybody wants to
Speaker 3: be thirty manageable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at thirty manageable, thirty one to three
Speaker 2: mm hm five is okay. You start getting get thirty seven,
Speaker 2: thirty ten, thirty thirteen, you ain't gonna be picking them
Speaker 2: up on the rig.
Speaker 1: Your playbook shrinks significantly.
Speaker 3: The greater the distance, the smaller the playbook get.
Speaker 2: We only got like two or three players for thirty thirty,
Speaker 2: thirty law thirty ten or more.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 5: And most of the time you're gonna have to check
Speaker 5: them up fucker down anyway.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, Joe, check this out.
Speaker 2: The NFL will find players fifteen thousand dollars if players
Speaker 2: post their drug test request from the league on social
Speaker 2: media for a new memo sent to agents. Players across
Speaker 2: the league are extremely unhappy about this.
Speaker 1: Hey, but the NFL is so funny about control. I'm
Speaker 1: one of the ones who used to do that as well.
Speaker 1: I used to do that. And you know what's so
Speaker 1: funny about about social media, it's the fact that people
Speaker 1: in the chat. If you can go on Twitter right now,
Speaker 1: so just just do me a favor, Please go on
Speaker 1: to it right now and see if you can find
Speaker 1: me complaining about getting drug tested after the game. It's
Speaker 1: still up there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's something that I did, is something that some of
Speaker 1: the players do. And anytime you have a good game,
Speaker 1: a game that's out of the norm, they think it's
Speaker 1: something wrong with you. What they do, They've drug test
Speaker 1: you the next day. Hell, sometimes they might catch you
Speaker 1: right after the game. Yeah they might.
Speaker 2: I definitely didn't think it was random because I'm getting
Speaker 2: tested seven times a year, and the point of the
Speaker 2: kicker getting tested one time of year. Now clearly you
Speaker 2: look at them, clearly they whatever they take it is backfired.
Speaker 2: It ain't working right. I'm like, how's it random? When
Speaker 2: I get selected?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 2: There every week or every other week, and this guy
Speaker 2: gets tested once a year. I'm compete. They come see
Speaker 2: me in the off season. It's also a based on
Speaker 2: position too. It's also a based on position. Yeah, what
Speaker 2: what are we testing kicker for?
Speaker 1: Anyway? Think about it?
Speaker 2: Eating too many hamburgers and pieces. That's what's his sister?
Speaker 2: But I I, but but ooe, tell me this, what
Speaker 2: do you what do you? What do you get by
Speaker 2: posting that? Are you trying to enlisit sympathy from the fans?
Speaker 2: I don't get. Like I said, I was frustrated, O Joe,
Speaker 2: because I got tested. I got tested a bunch, and
Speaker 2: even in the off season, because in the off season
Speaker 2: I was when I was living in Savannah. The guy
Speaker 2: would come to the airport, O Joe. I would meet
Speaker 2: the guy at the airport. He would get off the plane,
Speaker 2: he would go, he would we'd go into the bathroom.
Speaker 2: At that point in time, Oh Joe, they have to
Speaker 2: keep the bathroom open, so you would have to turn
Speaker 2: to the side so he can see it.
Speaker 5: And make sure you ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because guys have started getting the wizard Nata. They
Speaker 2: were getting somebody else you're in bag and strapping it
Speaker 2: to their legs. You know, dude darker than me and
Speaker 2: he got peat meat hanging down there. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Come on, bro, So I said, come on, dude,
Speaker 2: that's the dude from Minnesota. O Joe, he don't got
Speaker 2: the wizard that that's out what they found out about it.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's that's coming. And you know it's funny a chat.
Speaker 1: This is so funny too. In the off season, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you are in the world.
Speaker 3: Oh, get absolutely, if you.
Speaker 1: Got to get a drug test, they gone, they coming
Speaker 1: wherever you are. You can be in Europe, you could
Speaker 1: be in Italy, you could be in Spain, you can
Speaker 1: be in London, They're coming. You can be in anywhere.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter wherever you are in the world. Once
Speaker 1: you have that drug test, even in the off season,
Speaker 1: you will get that test taken within twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: So you used to tell them, Joe, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: in Saint Thomas or I'm gonna be out of town
Speaker 2: on vacation. Okay, we'll get you when you get back. Oh, no,
Speaker 2: where are you gonna be? They're gonna hey, they would
Speaker 2: ask you, where are you gonna be?
Speaker 1: What we gonna have somebody there. We'll have somebody there
Speaker 1: to meet you within the hour.
Speaker 2: They will they will show up, They absolutely will, Ojo.
Speaker 2: And that was I was like, because at first, O Joe,
Speaker 2: they used to let you go in the bathroom. Because
Speaker 2: what they would do they would be in the training room,
Speaker 2: they would give you the cup. They let you go
Speaker 2: to the bath yea and come back.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: And then they were like, okay, they would follow you
Speaker 2: to the bathroom, but they would let they would let
Speaker 2: h still let you close the door. But what guys
Speaker 2: were doing they would already have somebody else you're in store, yeah,
Speaker 2: or into the cup, pretend like that, you know, and
Speaker 2: and so for the song. So then it's like nah,
Speaker 2: nah nah, y'all end it right, y'all, Thank y'all slick.
Speaker 2: So now drop your pants. You gotta put your pants
Speaker 2: to your ankle. You gotta turn to the side. I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, bro, another man watching another grown man pee
Speaker 2: in a cup.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but hey, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna get this, y'all to getting no money out of me?
Speaker 2: Stand right there. I will fill it up. I can't
Speaker 2: give you, y'all ain't fit to get one dime out
Speaker 2: of shame.
Speaker 3: I promise you.
Speaker 2: But that's the way it is, that oh joke, and
Speaker 2: they say this is this is has they said, Now
Speaker 2: I read the member. They said it's always been a rule,
Speaker 2: but there was no I guess, no fine or no term,
Speaker 2: no punishment behind it.
Speaker 3: So now.
Speaker 5: They weren't enforcing it.
Speaker 1: But I think I think the NFL is down fed
Speaker 1: up and just players want to let people know how
Speaker 1: ridiculous it is that they're being fine, I mean fine,
Speaker 1: that they're being drug tested and it's normally after an
Speaker 1: exquisite performance.
Speaker 2: Every time. Every time, I was like, I mean, I
Speaker 2: want you know, just a coka. I had a ninety Okay,
Speaker 2: I had one thirty? What y'all found?
Speaker 3: What? I bean? I'm trying to figure out what happened
Speaker 3: in that week? Right? Well, what y'all why y'ally trust me?
Speaker 3: What I had?
Speaker 2: Foe catchers for twenty two yards? Y'all need a drug test?
Speaker 2: The coaches and asked them why they called them BULLGYE played.
Speaker 2: That's what y'all need to test?
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 2: The Ravens suspended Deontay Johnson for one game in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. Has not been kind to Deontaey from being
Speaker 2: traded off two NFL teams and becoming practically non existent
Speaker 2: in the Ravens dynamic confence, and now being suspended one
Speaker 2: game after refusing to go into Baltimore Week thirteen.
Speaker 3: I see O Joe. Yeah, I tried to tell you
Speaker 3: when he was in Pittsburgh, they talked.
Speaker 2: I said, THEY'RENNA toleration until they he took that same attitude.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 3: They won't listen to me. Oh how you know up?
Speaker 2: Because I know because I've been in the locker room
Speaker 2: and I was in the fact though I was the
Speaker 2: leading boys, and I've seen guys just like deonn Tay Johnson,
Speaker 2: and he took that same behavior. If y'all think this
Speaker 2: man this change, y'all think he just got like this
Speaker 2: when he got into Baltimore. U y'all think that chat
Speaker 2: y'all really think that's who? Do y'all say it was?
Speaker 2: Because that no mm hmm. But y'all don't want to
Speaker 2: listen to me. Oh think you know everything. I don't
Speaker 2: know everything. I know a little bit about everything except technology,
Speaker 2: But when it comes to human behavior, I know a
Speaker 2: lot about that. I told you, Yeah, y'all want to
Speaker 2: listen to me now? So I hey, hey, chat when
Speaker 2: I was saying this behavior in Pittsburgh, where are y'all
Speaker 2: at now? Why we can't find no oh Joe, why
Speaker 2: we can't find anybody? They go against us? But when
Speaker 2: we right, don't nobody jump in the chat and say,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, I hey. I was one of the ones
Speaker 2: that said, oh Joe, you was wrong, but you was right?
Speaker 2: Why we can't get that Ojo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Listen, I I do, I do listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying what he did was right.
Speaker 1: I do understand his frustrations, see getting traded to Baltimore
Speaker 1: and wanting to be an intricate part of the offense
Speaker 1: and really not getting those opportunities. He's had catches. I
Speaker 1: think he slipped on a few, he's dropped a few,
Speaker 1: but he's also caught some balls, but not to the
Speaker 1: point where he thought he would.
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you're the one. You're go into it.
Speaker 5: You're going to a run a team they running the
Speaker 5: ball first anyway.
Speaker 1: So your opportunity are gonna come few and very and
Speaker 1: and and few and how you said, what's.
Speaker 3: The word you want to far between?
Speaker 1: Yeah, few and far between, especially in that offense, especially
Speaker 1: when they already have Za Flowers and and Baban and Aguilar.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get in where you fit in.
Speaker 1: And when you do get the opportunities, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make the most.
Speaker 3: You got to catch it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that too, You got to catch him. You
Speaker 5: got to make the most up.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, I don't look.
Speaker 2: I was a pretty good player, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: catch the football because I work my ass off doing
Speaker 2: the course of the week, I felt I had done
Speaker 2: all the right things, from studying to preparing to practicing
Speaker 2: hard to do it all the right things. I really
Speaker 2: wanted to catch the ball. Yes, sometimes they didn't throw
Speaker 2: me the ball. Yeah, guess what I did. Guess what
Speaker 2: I did on Monday, Oh Joe, you did take my
Speaker 2: black ass upstairs and pick up that check.
Speaker 3: I got paid by the game, not by the catch. Right.
Speaker 3: So now, if y'all want to pay.
Speaker 2: Me this amount of money to catch no balls, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go right and I ain't gonna say a word.
Speaker 2: Right y'all want to be Hey, if I call thirteen passes,
Speaker 2: I made the same amount of money as if I
Speaker 2: called two. Now it's gonna look fully show y'all. But
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not fit. I'm not finna get lose
Speaker 2: my mind. But y'all not throwing me the ball because
Speaker 2: I know what I can do. Y'all know what I
Speaker 2: can do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But to.
Speaker 1: Not go in a game, yeah, hell no, o Yo,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's hella fast hello. Frustration built up.
Speaker 2: What you need you need to be Jaried Rice. I remember,
Speaker 2: I think, oh, what who was it? Was it Bill Callahan?
Speaker 2: It might have been Bill callahad that broke Jared Rice's
Speaker 2: consecutive game streak of catching a pass. Jared had like
Speaker 2: two something over two hundred catches and he didn't throw
Speaker 2: him a pass.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he snapped it. He broke it. Go back
Speaker 2: and look at it. I think it against the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: And then at the point in time on Yo, they
Speaker 2: were up, so you know they're not gonna throw the ball, right.
Speaker 3: Jared was frustrated.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 2: Jerry came out there the next weekend went crazy. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he went crazy, but he took his
Speaker 2: ass in the game. And that's Jerry. At the time.
Speaker 2: At the time that happened, Jared was the greatest receiver
Speaker 2: had ever played. And if he go take it. Man, Hi,
Speaker 2: you in good cars to tell the coach you ain't
Speaker 2: going in the game on Yo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I meant listen, I've never been in a position
Speaker 5: like that where I had.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be in a position like that.
Speaker 2: On Joe, football player, that's my job is taking my
Speaker 2: black ass in the game. Yeah, oh Joe, I never
Speaker 2: want to. I never wanted to have that kind of
Speaker 2: power that I feel. Look, I've been very fortunate that,
Speaker 2: you know, played on some teams and they kind of
Speaker 2: gave me some leeway. But they tell you a lot
Speaker 2: about a person that has power and doesn't amuse it.
Speaker 3: M M, tell you a lot about the person. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody can't use that kind of power for good.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people are using for bad and taking advantage of it, right. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know being in Baltimore, you know, I remember when
Speaker 2: we went to Baltimore and uh, you know, we didn't
Speaker 2: have a whole lot of rules.
Speaker 3: Don't ya just be on time? Things like that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it drove me crazy that Coach Belichick would let
Speaker 2: guys skirt on the time, but hey, it is what
Speaker 2: it is. We go to the super Bowl. Now we
Speaker 2: don't have bet check right. He gave us one rule, coach.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick gave us one rule. He says, I want
Speaker 2: everybody to ride the bus from the hotel to the
Speaker 2: practice field. What practice is over. I want everybody to
Speaker 2: get on the bus and ride back to the hotel.
Speaker 2: After that, you can do whatever you want to do. Okay,
Speaker 2: Rookie he from Florida, his mom and dad down. He
Speaker 2: gonna ride back to the He talked about he gonna
Speaker 2: ride back to the hotel with his parents.
Speaker 3: I know, no, F you ain't what I said, Oh no,
Speaker 3: F you ain't.
Speaker 2: I said, you think you fitling an infidel for everybody,
Speaker 2: I said, the man gave us one. We don't have,
Speaker 2: bad check. We don't have we don't have nothing. And
Speaker 2: the man said, I got one rule. From the hotel
Speaker 2: to the practice field, practice field, back to the hotel.
Speaker 3: And you talking about it.
Speaker 2: Boy, that's really the only time I won't you. I
Speaker 2: haven't really got mad, right, Oh your it's the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think he really understood the significance of it.
Speaker 2: Remember he's just looking at it like another game. But
Speaker 2: they chronicled this one and this this one here for perpetuity.
Speaker 2: They got I don't know how many games they played,
Speaker 2: probably fifteen thousand, seventeen eight hundred. They've only played at
Speaker 2: that point in time thirty five super Bowls. And now
Speaker 2: you think I'd better let you potentially hang a m man,
Speaker 2: you'll get your ass on this bus. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: I gonna have to fight you and your parents, but
Speaker 2: you get you get your ass on that bus.
Speaker 1: Bad. Please don't.
Speaker 5: Yes, you can't do that. That's that Joe.
Speaker 2: You think if you're coaching o Jo, you in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and Marvin say, oh yo, y'all just got one rule.
Speaker 2: He say, hey, o Cho, you could wear whatever you
Speaker 2: want to. Well, you can wear one play, you could
Speaker 2: wear shorts, you could wear this, you could wear that.
Speaker 2: He said, Oh Cho, all I want you to do
Speaker 2: is that I want you to right from the practice field.
Speaker 2: I want you to take I want you to get
Speaker 2: to get on these golf cards and go down to
Speaker 2: the practice field and then get on the golf cards
Speaker 2: and go back to the facility.
Speaker 3: That's the only rule I got for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, simple as that.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson said he hasn't spoken to Kirk Cousins since
Speaker 2: he left in free agency, O Joe, did you talk
Speaker 2: to former teammates if they left in free agency?
Speaker 1: You know, not, not really, not really, I really didn't.
Speaker 1: I remember TJ left and went to Seattle, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, and the Raiders. Carson left and went to
Speaker 1: Arizona and went to the Raiders.
Speaker 5: No, no, we did. We didn't talk much. But what
Speaker 5: we did do is we did keep in communication in
Speaker 5: the off season. Like in season.
Speaker 1: You know, when players left, we exchanged pleasantries before the left,
Speaker 1: and you know that that was it. That was that
Speaker 1: was pretty much it. So especially in the season, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk much. Yeah, the funny thing about it,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk much when they left then, but now
Speaker 1: we talk more and we ain't played and so.
Speaker 5: Goddamn long, which is weird.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's always on their own program, and you
Speaker 1: hate to see him go.
Speaker 5: That's one thing about it.
Speaker 1: You hate to see him go, especially you know, the
Speaker 1: combination and the duo that TJ and I were during
Speaker 1: that time, and to see Carson, God was also sad.
Speaker 1: But you know, we didn't we didn't communicate after that.
Speaker 5: Man, once they.
Speaker 1: Were going, they were going. They you know, we understood
Speaker 1: the business aspect of things and the way things work.
Speaker 1: You know, if I see when in passing an off season,
Speaker 1: you know, it's all love.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: When I left Baltimore, went back to Denver, Me and
Speaker 2: Ray we still talk once twice a week when I went.
Speaker 2: When I left Denver and went to Baltimore, me and Burns.
Speaker 2: But it Burns ended up leaving and going to Tampa. Well,
Speaker 2: he left in Tampa in ninety nine, and so I
Speaker 2: was there by myself that that was the worst year
Speaker 2: of my entire life and been in fourteen years. That
Speaker 2: was the worst year I ever had. But he and
Speaker 2: I we still talk. We're normal. We talked every day.
Speaker 2: But those were really the only two guys that I
Speaker 2: really talked to during the season. But like you said,
Speaker 2: once the season was over, you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: the guys, Fats and a couple of other guys, Duke Jackson, House,
Speaker 2: well we still were still communicated and we you know,
Speaker 2: I got you know, we're close today. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: can see Justine. I mean, I don't think I don't
Speaker 2: think that's unusual. Now, I didn't have a quarterback. I
Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback leaving for Regency. Uh, but no, Hell,
Speaker 2: I wasn't talk to the quarterback. Hell, John and I
Speaker 2: didn't talking off season, so I know, damn well, if
Speaker 2: I had gone to another team or he had gone
Speaker 2: to another team, we weren't gonna be.
Speaker 3: Talking during the season.
Speaker 2: Now we didn't talk it off season, and we're on
Speaker 2: the same damn team. So I don't I don't think that.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's strange at all, O Joe, you.
Speaker 5: Absolutely not, Absolutely not, because I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 5: I lived, I lived in.
Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 3: Mhm.