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As I mentioned earlier, 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions moved to twelve and one thirty four. 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers ball to ninety four thirty one. 107 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: So the Lions win thirty four to thirty one over 108 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: division rivals the green Bay Packers, the eleventh straight win. 109 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: Jared Goff had another efficient game. He was thirty two 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: or forty one two eighty three, three touchdowns, one interception. 111 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: He was sacked once. Uh, he's hey. 112 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: He threw the ball to seven different receivers, six different 113 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: receiver caught a pass. He was thirty two completions, two 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: under the eighty three yards, three touchdowns. 115 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 3: Played very very well. 116 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: They didn't run the ball great tonight, but they ran 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: the ball well enough because now play action is sent 118 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: up off of the running game, and you saw a 119 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: lot of those crossing routes, a lot of the shake 120 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: out out rock throws because of play action is so 121 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: good because they can run it, and green Bay had 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: to honor that. 123 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: O Joe. 124 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: Guys were wide open. But I was very impressed with 125 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: green Bay because they could have easily run ahead. But 126 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: give them credit. They came out forced to turnover right 127 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: away and even took the lead. And they went back 128 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: and forth, back and forth, back and forth. But the 129 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: play of the game was when Detroit stopped him from 130 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: getting into the end zone and they only could tie. 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 2: It had been very interesting to see. I still believe 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: that Detroit was gonna go down to get a touchdown 133 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: even if they needed it, because they matched the intensity 134 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: once green Bay took the lead. Now they went down 135 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: there and got touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, and they're going forward 136 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: on fourth down and pick it up every time. But 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: I like what I saw from the Detroit Lions. They've 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: been very, very impressive. I think they're the best team 139 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: in football right now, followed closely by the Philadelphia Eagles. 140 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Oh yo, what did you like about what you saw 141 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: from this ballgame? 142 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Listen forget the ball game in general. I like what 143 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: I like what I saw from Dan Campbell. I liked 144 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: what I saw from Dan Campbell. When you talk about 145 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: having Cojone's and you talk about having tescos the size 146 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: of a goddamn. 147 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: Tyronosaurus Rex, that's Dan Campbell. 148 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: The fact that he changed the entire coach over there 149 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: to a winning culture, and he believed when you have 150 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: a coach like THATNK man that's willing to go for 151 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: it on four down, you. 152 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: Know what that's telling your players. 153 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: I believe in y'all. I believe in you so that energy, 154 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean to play for somebody like Dan Campbell, who's 155 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: also who's the players coach who also played in the NFL, 156 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: has to be one of the greatest feelings for that 157 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: organization and those players in general, because stuff like that 158 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: it makes you want to run through a wall for 159 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: a person, It makes you want to run through a 160 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: wall for a coach like that. 161 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 5: Only who coaches like that. Not only does he doesn't 162 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: play conservative, he's playing all. 163 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: He's playing balls to the walls, regardless of the scenario, 164 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: regardless of circumstance, and it's dope, And I think that's 165 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they are twelve and one. 166 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's all. He's constantly peal to the medal. He's 167 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: constantly putting pressure. Not only does he put pressure on 168 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: his offense, I mean on the opposing defense. He's putting 169 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: pressure on his defense also because sometimes situations you properly 170 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: could give those guys the opposing team the football at 171 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: midfield or maybe even in your territory. But he just 172 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: has that much confidence in his team. He said, offense, 173 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: I have the utmost confidence in you that you're gonna 174 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: get this, and if you don't, defense, I have the 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: utmost confidence that you're not going to give up a 176 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: touchdown and you're gonna hold it. 177 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: You're gonna hold him. 178 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: At worst case scenario, you're gonna give him three points 179 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: or we're gonna get the football back with no damage done. 180 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: And so that sends a message you're absolutely right, oh yo. 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: That resonates with his ball club. And you hear the 182 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: guys the way they talk about Dan care They absolutely 183 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: one thousand percent believe in him. Uh, he's the facto leader, 184 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: and I love the fact One voice, one sound. Hey, hey, 185 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: calboy fans, y'all would love to have that with you. 186 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: One voice, one sound, Mike Tomlin, one voice, one sound, 187 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: Kansas City, one voice, one sound. That's what you do. 188 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: That's the heartbeat. 189 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: And you notice, you notice the difference of all the 190 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 5: teams that. 191 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: You just named, Yeah did win it? 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: You notice what they able to do consistently year in 193 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: the year out when all right, it ain't it ain't wrong. 194 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: A science and the coach and the coach and the 195 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: coach voice. The coach is the end all be all. 196 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: But when you got people, you know, you got people 197 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: that want to be all in your video all of 198 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: you know, dancing and shine, trying to shine and trying 199 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: to steal everybody else thunder. 200 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: This is what you get. This is exactly what you get. 201 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: Hey, Even though yeah, phely here, Sirianna, you might not 202 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: like some of the things he said, and you know 203 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: he might be getting into it with the fans, but 204 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: you know you're high roseman. You don't hear Jeffrey Loriie. 205 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: You go to Buffalo, you don't hear the goola's talking. 206 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 5: Now you're hit mcgurrett. That's it, that's. 207 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: It, and that's how it should be. 208 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: One man, one sound. 209 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: That's the way it should be. 210 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: Jordan Love finished twelve or twenty, only got twenty passes 211 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: two hundred and six yards of touchdown to Tucker Craft. 212 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs had a monster game. He didn't rush for 213 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: a ton of yards though, shoe, but he got the 214 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: ball into the en zone three times. That's the one 215 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: thing that he can do that. He has a sense 216 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: for getting the ball into the end zone. He's gonna 217 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: find a way to slither his way. He'll power his 218 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: way because he can run with power. He can run 219 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: with for nest. He had great hands. He's yes, he's 220 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: really good, but I was really impressed with the packers. 221 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: That was a short week and you have to travel 222 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: and both teams. 223 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: You're not doing it. You're not doing it. 224 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 2: Basically, it's a whole lot of walk through to the 225 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: whole lot of film study. Your body's not really fully 226 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: recovered yet, and I'm surprised more people don't get injured Oho, 227 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: because you have such a short week. 228 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: You play on. 229 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: Sunday, and then guess what, Monday, Tuesday, you gotta travel Wednesday, 230 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: and then you playing normally. Hell I didn't start to 231 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: feel good once I got it like your seven year eight. 232 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: Hell I ain't start feeling good to your Friday. 233 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: You know. 234 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: The funny thing I think about it too, and the 235 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: fact that even on these short weeks, you know from 236 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: a thirty to a Sunday or a Sunday to a Thursday. 237 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: I think about the fact that we're in week thirteen win. 238 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Week twelve, so the body should be adjusted and enough 239 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: enough wear and tear has been built up to this 240 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: point to where you should be able to adjust to it, 241 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: even though it's a short week. 242 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 3: You adjusted them lists bad. I'll be woke. I bet 243 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 3: I'll be woke. 244 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: Massages and cold tub but like, But then the thing 245 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: is ojoe is that, like you said, you're not out 246 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: there running. Basically, it's a lot of walkthroughs, it's a 247 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: lot of film study. You're running plays that you're very 248 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: very comfortable with. 249 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 3: You know what. 250 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: You know, it looks we're in the same division and 251 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: these coaches have been in play for an extended period 252 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: of time. 253 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: We know what you do. You know what we do? 254 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: Okay, listen, who can out execute the other player of 255 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: the other team by doing what we do? We believe 256 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: we can do it. We do better than what you 257 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: can do. That's what it comes down to. 258 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 6: Uh. 259 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: They made they got a turnover, uh, one turn up, well, 260 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: two turnovers. Detroit got one and Green Bay got one 261 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: because Christian Watson former the football. Uh and Detroit went 262 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: ahead and took that in and then golf through an 263 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: interception and then the Packers go right down the field. 264 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: Score. 265 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: But this was a very good game. Detroit. Detroit is 266 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: really good. Man, Yeah, it's really good. But I'm still 267 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: as good as they are. Oh show after watching the Eagles, 268 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: Eagles right there, there ain't much separation between them and 269 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: the Eagles. 270 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 5: And that's on both sides of the ball. Too. That's 271 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball. 272 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: Listen, the Lions got got Gibbs in Montgomery, but Saquan 273 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: is able to do the exact same. 274 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 5: Game Well, I like game well, game well is nice too. 275 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: And plus let me cut, let me the station right here, 276 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: and and Jay, you got Jalen Hurts. Yeah, so golf 277 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: golf doesn't add anything to the running game like Hurts 278 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: add to the Eagles running game. You have give, you 279 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: have knus for whatever they call themselves. But that's where 280 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: it stops, because you're getting nothing out of the quarterback, right. 281 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: I think I think you know what. 282 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: For what they lack in quarterback playing from a dual 283 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: quarterback standpoint, with golf being a strictly a drop back passer, 284 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: they make up for it the wide receiver position though, Yes, 285 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: they make up for it. And that's not taking anything 286 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: away from Devonte Smith and uh and god damn A J. 287 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: Brown. 288 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then and then both both defenses are really good. 289 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 5: Now the second level for for the Lions, it's a 290 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 5: little off. It's a little off. 291 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: The second too many holding though. 292 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: Joe, too many passing affairs, too many holdings. 293 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 5: Carry on, Carry. 294 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: Carry on, Joseph, You know, bro, Yeah, they got, they got, 295 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: they got. 296 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: They got to work on that. They have to learn 297 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: to be patient. They got to learn to be patient 298 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: and use their eyes a little bit more. Keep yourself 299 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: in position. You keep yourself in position to make a play, 300 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: trying to keep the receiver always either in front of 301 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: you or stand on top of him. You're always be 302 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: in a safe spot and be able to get your 303 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: eyes around. 304 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: Anytime you're panting, the. 305 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: First thing you do is you pull, You pull your tug. 306 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: And I'm afraid what's gonna happen with jo I can 307 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: see this happening. They gotta have to be careful because 308 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna get in a situation where it's laying the 309 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: ball game and you're gonna do what you've always done 310 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: with your tug and everybody go say you way down 311 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: to throw it when it's an obvious p I I 312 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: don't know what. 313 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what. 314 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 5: Artless do it. 315 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: I mean he gets at least one a game, and 316 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: sometimes they decline him for the simple fact that God 317 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: didn't make the catch. But he's gonna have to be better. 318 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna have to be better in that area. But 319 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: Detroit is really, really good of Zadarius Smith has another sack. 320 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: He's playing extremely well. But I like what I see 321 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: from Detroit. I like what I saw from Detroit. Now 322 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: you get ten days, you get some time off, O Joe. 323 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: You got Friday Saturday Sunday. Coach Campbell probably not going 324 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: to want to see the guys until at least noon 325 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: on Monday. You come in, get your run, get your 326 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: lift in, you know, try to get some of that 327 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: sword and inside. I mean, hey, some people might go 328 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: out of town, but I was gonna go in and 329 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: get me a run in. 330 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not going nowhere. I'm gonna go get 331 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: my run in. 332 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: As matter of fact, matter of fact, knowing knowing Dan, 333 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: being that he's a player's coach and they're playing so well, 334 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: being twelve and one, he probably gonna let them boys go. Yeah, man, 335 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: y'all get away from here, get off your feet, get 336 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: away from football, get away from football for a few days, 337 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: and when you come back, be ready to go. 338 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, damn if they give. If they get Friday Saturday Sunday, 339 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: they had enough time. 340 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean three days after thirteen weeks. I mean, 341 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know they just had a buy yeah, 342 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: but listen, Thanksgiving. Listen, the real football doesn't start until 343 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, so right now to be they want to know. 344 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: Hold on, ojo. 345 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: They got a full week because they played on Thanksgiving, 346 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: so they got a normal it's a normal week for them. 347 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. 348 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: So so guess what they got. 349 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: So they got an opportunity to oho, to have Friday, Saturday, 350 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: Sunday off, Sunday off last week. Then they come Monday, Tuesday, 351 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: travel Wednesday, boom. Right, right, they should be good. Now 352 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: they probably was hurting. You play Sunday and then you 353 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: got Thanksgiving Day. Now you got a whole week in between. 354 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: But I'm sure coach CaMV I don't know what the 355 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: strategy is. He might help. He might say, hey, I'll 356 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: see y'all Wednesday. Yeah, come in, hey, come in tomorrow, 357 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: get your run, get your lift, get some swordings out, 358 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: and I'll see you guys on Wednesday. See you guys 359 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, bright nerve. Yeah, that could be. That could 360 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: be the approach that he takes. But this was a 361 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: very good game, very interesting game, too. Good two teams, 362 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: both teams are in the same conference. One Minnesota's ten 363 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: and two, green Bay ninety four. But green Bay sneaky good. 364 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: Well they're not sneaky, they're just really good. DAK defended 365 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, said, I whole heartedly believe in him. DAK 366 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: thinks McCarthy deserves another contract. He also said he would 367 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: help McCarthy McCarthy if he had more influence on the 368 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: team's development, but McCarthy said he's confused by dak comments. 369 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: According to Clarence Hill, the Cowboys, Cowboys coach, McCartney said 370 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: he had the most input he's ever had his head coach, 371 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: oh Lord Mercy. 372 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: Coach compared to Green Bay. 373 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: He is not sure what DAK meant by needing him 374 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: influence on his terms. We know Mike McCarthy does not 375 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 2: have thank you. He's the head coaching title. 376 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 5: Only listen you just. 377 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: In a disrespect or disrespectful way for those that understand 378 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: the game of football, for those who know about when 379 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: it comes to being the coach of the Dallas Cowboys organization. 380 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 5: But that's start the helmet. 381 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: There's one person that runs the show and it's not 382 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: the head coach, and it's always it's always been that way. 383 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: You have no pull you know exactly what Dak meant 384 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: by the words. 385 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: That he said, yes, and I'm not I'm taking Dak 386 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: what he said with a grain of salt, because guess 387 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: what he said. He wanted Scott Lenahan. He said he 388 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: wanted Kellen Moore. He said he wanted Jason Garrett. He 389 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: said he wanted this one and he wanted that one. 390 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: So what's he supposed to say? Nah, I want Mike Mcca, 391 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: I want another head coach, I want another play caller. 392 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: Of course, he's gonna say all the right things because 393 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: if you go back and check his track track record, 394 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: O Joe, he said the exact same thing about every 395 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, about every head coach that he's had. 396 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 5: I mean, you have to, you have to. He has 397 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 5: to be PC. 398 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: He's a quarterback. He's the face of the franchise no 399 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: matter what. So he has to say all the right things. 400 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: It's not like he's gonna come out and go against 401 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, his his head coach. 402 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 5: I mean, come on, Mike. 403 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: You no, no, it should it. But I'm saying for 404 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: him to say, Mike, let me ask you a question. 405 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: Do you have any say on the final fifty three? 406 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: Do you have any say in free agency, do you 407 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: have any say in the draft? So if that, if 408 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 2: that's the case, so I'm just trying to figure out, 409 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: what do you mean you have some saint. 410 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Wait then he say he had more say, more control, 411 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: and more say than than he had in Green Bay. 412 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I disagree. 413 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, oh Joe, maybe at the end, maybe at 414 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: the end he didn't have the same amount of say. 415 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: But it's hard for me to believe throughout his entire 416 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: tenure that he had more say in Dallas that he 417 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: had in Green Bay. 418 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 5: You know what they did, right, that's what you know. 419 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: Damn well, stop playing. 420 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: Well see now by saying that, you know, you take 421 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: some of the owners off Jerry, So we can't blame 422 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: Jerry fully. So Jerry can say, oh see, he would 423 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: out there say that he had some say. Let's get 424 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: his answer up out of here, because we lose it. 425 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. 426 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: Now, don't hide and Jerry come back and fire back 427 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: in his own way, his own meticulous way, because you 428 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: know he can't. 429 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 5: He can't stay from front that goddamn camera. 430 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: Mike Florio believe the Bear should discuss the trade for 431 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: Shannahan with the forty nine ers. The Bears are also 432 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: expected to interview Pete Carroll. I don't believe they need 433 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator as a head coach. I believe now 434 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: if Pete Carroll's gonna go, get them a Cliff Kingsbury 435 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: or get someone that's good with this type of quarterback. 436 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: This type of quarterback, I mean, Caleb Williams. Okay, fine, 437 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: but you better have someone that has offensive ingenuity, that's 438 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: forward thinking creativity. 439 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love I love Pete Carroll. 440 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 5: I love Pete Carroll. 441 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: But the idea of Shannonhan and his offensive prowess and 442 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: his creativity and what he can do when it comes 443 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks in the creativity and taking some the pressure 444 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: off of Hyley Williams hit where he doesn't have to 445 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: do so much because the offense does everything for you, 446 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: putting people, putting the putting pieces in the right places 447 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: and allowing that team to function and flow offensively. And 448 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: he got the pieces to do it. 449 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: They do. 450 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen DJ Moore, you know, yeah, you got swift. 451 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: I'm not saying the four, but I'm just saying you do. 452 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: And obviously the office line has some work that needs 453 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: to be done here as well, but he has a 454 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: great arsenal weapons to work with. I'm just saying, if 455 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: the switch was to happen, I think it would improve 456 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: that off that that Chicago bears offense tremendously. 457 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I see your own spirit WiFi tonight me. Yeah, 458 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm talking to you, Joe. Damn who you think I'm 459 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: talking to? 460 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: Oh? 461 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: Okay, listen, stay with me real quick, stay with me now. 462 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: Listen. 463 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: The people from a Wi Fi and my internet service, 464 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: they won't be here tomorrow. So what I'm doing right 465 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: now is chat. Y'all been with me today, just this 466 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: one time, just just tonight. I'm using my hotspot from 467 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: my phone to my laptop. 468 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 5: To do the show tonight. 469 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: So just being with me for any any any lags 470 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: or lagging, I apologize, I'll be I'll be back on 471 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: business Saturday. Okay, so bad, I'm bad, you know. 472 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: Coach Belichick interview for UNC's the University of North Carolina 473 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: head coaching vacancy. He reportedly blew them away in the interview. 474 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why y'all surprised by that. 475 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: Coach Belichick seemed genuinely interest interested in the job. Excuse me, 476 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: at the age of seventy two. Coach Belichick has no 477 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: prior college experience. O Chell, Do you like coach Belichick 478 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: going back? 479 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 5: Absolutely not, Absolutely not. 480 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: I want at some point I would love for coach 481 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: Belichick to get the most wins as a head coaching 482 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: in fail pass shoot up, and he can't get that 483 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: done going to North Carolina. I think going to college 484 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing, but there's a disadvantage due 485 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: to the competition level being, the the playing field being 486 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: even because of n I L. I don't think Bill 487 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: needs to get into that realm in that area where 488 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: you're not really getting the players you need to have 489 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: a winning season or actually to be able to compete 490 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: at a high level. I would prefer Bill to stay 491 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: with us at inside the NFL until the right job 492 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: comes to his. 493 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 5: To the right to the right NFL job comes, you know, 494 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: the right one. 495 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: Where he can continue to to win and strive to 496 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: get into reaching that goal of being the most the 497 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: most winning is NFL here coach Ever. 498 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: I think, oh Joe, Coach Belichick, it had to be 499 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: a huge crush to his ego. You're talking about the 500 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: guy who won six Super Bowls and he ain't getting 501 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: none of the jobs. There was six or seven jobs 502 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: that were available, and he got none of them. 503 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he got none of them. 504 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, though, Yes, thinking about this, 505 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: of those six or seven jobs that are available, which 506 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: one would have been the best fit that can get 507 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: where he can continue his reign of dominance. 508 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: No, we ain't got no quarterback. I mean, you got 509 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: a quarterback, but you ain't got Tom Brady. But at 510 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: this point, Ojo, let me ask you a question. You're 511 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: the You're the best receiver in football. 512 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: That's me, that's me. 513 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: You you you got, you got all the records. You done, 514 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: had six straight one hundred catch seasons. You had six 515 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: straight seasons at least thirteen hunder yards, six straight seasons 516 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: of ten touchdown. Oh well, okay, they move on and 517 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: you can't find one job. 518 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, can I tell you something? 519 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's become a young man's game. 520 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 5: Not only has this young man's game, it's become a 521 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 5: young coaches game. 522 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Well mm hmm. But Bill to speak for itself, it 523 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: speaks volumes. It's all about Bill being able to adapt 524 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: today today's players. 525 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 5: To today's era. 526 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: Can he change some of the things that he did 527 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: during the old days some of the old ways and 528 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: try to try to revamp, like you know, I tell 529 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you got these sometimes you got evolved. 530 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 5: You can't. You can't. 531 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: You can't do the things you did back in the 532 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: day and think it's gonna work in today's era. You 533 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: know the players that I don't. 534 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: I don't think these kids don't carry about No rest may. 535 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: Know, the kids don't. 536 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the organizations might might if he goes 537 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: in and letting and shows that he can adapt to 538 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: the kids in today's era. 539 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. I couldn't couldn't be wrong. 540 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he can he adapt. It's hard, o Jo, 541 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: when you've been in your It's hard when you've done 542 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: something one way and had ultimate success doing it that way. 543 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you mean to tell me 544 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: to do a one eighty Yeah cool, Oh Cho, that's hard. 545 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: And the kids today, oh Cho. There's not the same 546 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: level of respect for coaching and authority that it once 547 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: was what you and I grew up with, and the 548 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: way we see it gradually gradually dissipating, where the coach 549 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: is authority and the coach's voice is not as powerful. 550 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: As it once was. Now it is in some locker rooms. 551 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: But I remember five years ago, ten five years ago, 552 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: coach Belicheck walk into a locker room with that resume. Yeah, now, everybody, 553 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: the first thing they're gonna call it a question. He 554 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 2: didn't want to know what I go. He didn't want 555 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: know without Tom Brady. 556 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just want I just be what out 557 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: with you? Right? 558 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: But you know what I see, especially with the young 559 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: players that looked up to looked up to him as 560 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: a coach, in respect what he's done. 561 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 5: I think he can walk. 562 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: Into a locker room and it'd be instant respect, even 563 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: from the young, even from the young guns, even from. 564 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: The young so yo, you see now to get young 565 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: guys are disrespectful to the veteran players. 566 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: So you think they yeah, yeah, the respect that we 567 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: used to have for for. 568 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: Authority, not forget forget the resume, just for authority, even 569 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: if it was somebody that wasn't related to us, but 570 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: they were older than ough or they were in an 571 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: authoritative position. 572 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: Oh you, we held them in respect. 573 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I ain't the same now, Oh yo, I 574 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 5: know what you mean. 575 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: But listen, Bill, Bill is a different figure on either 576 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: He's a legend at this you know, I think the 577 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: players with respect, that's that's a legend. This ain't just 578 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: no any coach. Oh shit, I'm playing for goddamn Bill Belichick, 579 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: the one who's won six of the bolls, who knows 580 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: how to win. You know, That's that's just how I 581 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: see it. 582 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: You talk how you talk, that's how you're thinking. Right. 583 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: But you wasn't on your phone. 584 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 2: You wasn't on your phone student the game with over 585 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: to see what somebody said negative about Ojo, so you 586 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: could confront a receiver, I mean a reporter. 587 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: That is what you did. 588 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: You wasn't on your thing trying to find out, well, 589 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: who says something negative about me? 590 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 3: Because I had an off game? That is't what you did. 591 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: Coach, tell you one thing, you go do something else, 592 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: because hey, I know better than coach. It's gonna be 593 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: very very interesting, very interesting to see because you and 594 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: I both know the longer you away from something, the 595 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: harder it is to get back into it. Yeah, we 596 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: just talked about the separation in a relationship. Okay, we 597 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: start out at a week, two weeks and a month, 598 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: two months, a year. 599 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, once you get to the month, you know, 600 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: what that Do you know what that means? 601 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: They don't mean nothing, O Joe. I'm just saying month, 602 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: six months. Now you're getting six months now, you not, 603 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: o Cho. Now you it's the old saying. Now you're 604 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: crossing the rubercon. That means you're reaching the point of 605 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: no return. 606 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 607 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: I've been there before. 608 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: I've been I've been to the rubicon back in eighty seven. 609 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 5: And I tell you, I tell you no, lie. Now, 610 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 5: I'll never forget her. 611 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: You know. 612 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: That's the story I can say for another day. But 613 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: the name of they call it, they call her ruby. 614 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: They called it ruby red. Her name of Ruby red. 615 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: You know. 616 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she had red hair too, That's why we called 617 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: it ruby red. 618 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man. 619 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: And so it's gonna be I hope. 620 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: Coach Belichick, I mean, I look, there are some things 621 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 2: the way he did things wouldn't handle the media. But 622 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: I think now, I don't you know his his his coaching, optman, 623 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: is not to be questioned. 624 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 625 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: He knows the game forward and backwards. Now for me, 626 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: it probably had I got drafted to coach Belichick. See, 627 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: it's easy to get drafted somewhere, o Cho, and go 628 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: there because that's all. 629 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: You know. 630 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: Had I gone some where else and then had to 631 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: play for coach Reeves, it probably would have been a 632 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: little different different. But he was hell from day so 633 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: that's all I knew. See, if you raised in hell 634 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: and all you've ever dealt with with the devil, so 635 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: you go to another devil, you cool. 636 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: Hell. 637 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 5: I've been with the devil my whole life, right right right. 638 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: But to go somewhere where you don't have to deal 639 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: with the devil, and now you gotta deal with it. 640 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: Now you got hell on your hand. Fit figuratively and literally. 641 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: But I hope coach you Belichick gets a chance. I 642 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: think he deserved the opportunity. Well, I think with his 643 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: resume and what he's done and how he's been, he's 644 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: had some some slip ups, but I think he's earned 645 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: the right to at least get a one more chance 646 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: to try to break that record. Absolutely absolutely, and uh 647 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: if he if he, if he gets it, Hey. 648 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: I know I know one thing, I've already already put 649 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: my I put my word in. I put my word in. 650 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: If if at any you do get a job, you 651 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: know he's gonna bring you on as an assistant. 652 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: Okay, A lot of former players have chimed in on 653 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: the ausher of ze Asher hit On, Trevor Lawrence, Bill Romanowski, 654 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: my former teammate, said H one was dirty, but I 655 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: loved it. Sounds like Romo. 656 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: Joe Thomas says the NFL needs to ban weaponize quarterback slides. 657 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: Tom Brady suggested the NFL needs to change the rules 658 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: to penalize late slide. Tom Brady says something very interesting. 659 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: He said, they're putting their owners on the defense. Tom 660 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: Brady is the wrong messenger because Tom they had a 661 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: rule change. Does he not know the Brady rule was 662 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: instituted to protect him. He's I get it, I get 663 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: what he's saying, O Joe, but he's the wrong messenger 664 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: because a lot of these rules that they was put 665 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: in place to protect the quarterback he been deefitted from. 666 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of like what we see with a lot 667 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: of hispanis when they talking about, yeah, the deport de 668 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: port when they got over here. We see that, we 669 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: know how they got over here. See it's easy to 670 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: say that exposed fact though out here now, I don't 671 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: give it close it, don't let nobody else over. Tom 672 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: Brady said, well, hell, I ain't gotta take no more hits. 673 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Barnish the quarterback, really bro really yeah, I mean I 674 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: get everything that they said on Joe the Late Slide. 675 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is notorious for that film. He's going to 676 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: slide and then he whither and finagel. No, that's wrong, 677 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: punish it because uh all my listener, all my Ross Brown. 678 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: He said that Cayler Williams had a habit of pretending 679 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: like he's gonna go out of bounds and and and 680 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: you're and they showed the clip Dan Campbell say if 681 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: he does if he does this, y'all punish his ass. 682 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. That's why they didn't throw 683 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: a flag because he won. He said he had a 684 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: habit of doing this. We're gonna put We're gonna put 685 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: helmets on his ass. See, I might not I can 686 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: stop him from doing it, but I break his answer 687 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: the habit Grandma saying I might not stop you, but 688 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: I break your the habit. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. 689 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: Tom is the wrong messenger when he benefited one of 690 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: he was one of the most benefit areas off the 691 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: rule change to protect the quarterback. 692 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: Oh Joe so how is he gonna say this now? 693 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: I think he's saying it because of the way the 694 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are taking advantage of the rule. 695 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: Can of it? 696 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah you know he can't. He can't scramble, he can't run. 697 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: He couldn't run. 698 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 5: Now they they took he took advantage of it in 699 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 5: the pocket. 700 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 1: Yes, so the owners at that point it's on the 701 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: defensive player. 702 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: Why he said the owner shouldn't be on the defensive 703 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: player to protect the offensive player. That's what he's saying. 704 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: So why is it on the owners when his asses 705 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: in the pocket? 706 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good one. 707 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: But I okay, well, I want you to give you 708 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: a good assw. 709 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you better context for those that 710 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: are running quarterbacks, that are that choose to take advantage 711 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: of the situation that they know well, you know, I 712 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: could fake it. I could act got him and guard 713 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: to bounds and I'm gonna take it up the field. 714 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it up the sideline. So Shazir, I 715 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: understand that. I understand that was a late slide. That 716 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: was a late slide by the I'm getting me say, 717 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: Jerry Goff, that was a late slide by Trevor, No, 718 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: you got you got to protect yourself. 719 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: That wasn't a slide. 720 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you do realize how tall Trevor Lord seals. 721 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: That's no late o cho, Oh Joe, it wasn't a 722 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: late slide. 723 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: But when you six foot five, you make it seem 724 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: like he Kyler Burry. 725 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: That's a lot of man to get down into a 726 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: sliding position. How many times you see how many times 727 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 2: you see Aaron Judge stealer base? Do you know how 728 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: hard it is for him to get his ass down 729 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 2: and slide unless they ain't got nobody in that position 730 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: that they got a shift on or something. Yeah, yeah, 731 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: that's what. But here's the thing, just like a quarterback 732 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: when they fake spight it and then throw the ball, 733 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: what about that, Ojo? Should you be allowed to do that? 734 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I ain't really seen that since Farno against. 735 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: Jess that do it? 736 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 5: They still do it. 737 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: I think the quarterbacks are afraid now. 738 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: I think I think it's on a handful of quarterbacks 739 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: have done have done that since that, since Danny. But 740 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: and they put in the Jags to finish up Ojo. 741 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: The Jags place Trevor Lawrence on injury reserve yesterday, likely 742 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: ending his season. I think he's gonna have surgery when 743 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: he was dealing with something before before this. Let okay, 744 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: see he's had he had showed the issues before that, Ojo. 745 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is this, I understand what Tom 746 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: is saying, but as a quarterback that's benefited from it, 747 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: you can't say, o Jo. You can't say, change the 748 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: tax code when you benefited from the old tax code 749 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: and you've made millions and billions. Now, hey close it, 750 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: close that loop hole. They don't let nobody else do that. 751 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: It's like a portal. We see these sci fi movie 752 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: where they jump through the portal and then they're trying 753 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 2: to close. 754 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: It's okay, nobody else, bro. 755 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 5: What's up? Yeah, you're right. I understand what you mean. 756 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: But that's that listen. 757 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: And I get it that they're gonna have to do 758 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: something about this, Like you can't fake like you're on 759 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: a slide because they changed the rules in college because 760 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett and he pretends like you to go slide 761 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: and he kept running and they ended up winning the game. 762 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: So you can't do that now. And they're gonna, hey, 763 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 2: if you want to change the rules, But once that 764 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: guy go into a slide. Because once he goes into 765 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: that motion, O Joe, Like I said, he's a big 766 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 2: ass man. That's a lot to go from a fully 767 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: upright position into a sliding position. 768 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, you're right. 769 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, but listen with the understanding of that being 770 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: that you're a bigger man. I mean, you got to 771 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: start that slide a little earlier. 772 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: Guys, I'm not saying Tom Brady, Tom I'm saying Tom Brady. 773 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: And it put it from rules that protected the quarterback. 774 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 2: So imagine if you couldn't hit the quarterbacks with Lway 775 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: and Marino. Because I give you prime example, Trent Green 776 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: lost his starting job in Saint Louis. That's how we 777 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: came to see Kurt Warner. Rodney Harrison did the exact 778 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: same thing to Trent Green that Bennett Pollard did the 779 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: Tom Brady did they. 780 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: Change the rules? 781 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely not the moment they did it to Tom Brady. 782 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: What did they do? They called it the Brady rule. 783 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: A quarterback now a defender. He can't tackle the quarterback 784 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: below the knee. Yeah, he can't hit He could only 785 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 2: hit the quarterback. 786 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 3: Here. 787 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: You can't drive your weight until the quarterback you got 788 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: the baby him down, you got it. If I got him, 789 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: I got to do like this. And you see a 790 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: lot of guys sacked the quarner or hit the quarterback. 791 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: They got their arms spread and tried to dissipate the 792 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 2: amount of weight that's going on the quarterback. So all 793 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying, I didn't say Tom was, but you can 794 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: benefit from rules. Even though said that situation maybe wasn't 795 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: applicable for him, but he did benefit from rules that 796 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: would implement it to protect the quarterback. Right, So you 797 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: want to see them change the rules. So what would 798 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: you have them do? Go away with the slide, so 799 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: now quarterback can't give himself up. 800 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: You can't. 801 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: That's part of the game. That's part of the game. 802 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: You definitely can't take that out. But I don't I 803 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I think you would have to put the 804 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: onus on the quarterback and being smart and being able 805 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: to slide early based on situation and circumstances depending on 806 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: what defenders are. And I think defenders have to protect 807 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: themselves and understand the situation in hand, and knowing that 808 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks on slide and also knowing who you play against, 809 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: you know you got some quarterbacks out are localheads, you know. 810 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 5: Right, they're dropped shoulder. They're dropped shoulder now exactly. 811 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: You have some quarterbacks that just really he ain't like that, 812 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: and you know they gonna they're gonna get down the slide. 813 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: It's all about knowing who you plan against. 814 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: Uh, what we got. 815 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: Despite his struggles, Aaron Rodgers says he has nothing to 816 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: prove over the final Fast five game and burned that 817 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: his career compliments should supersede. See I told you should 818 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 2: supersede his performance down the stretch. He said it would 819 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: be ridiculous to make a player with his resume audition 820 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 2: for next season. Oh Joe, this is why we love 821 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 2: professional sports, because what must you do every week? 822 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: O Joe? Update your resume? 823 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 5: U update your resume. 824 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: So I want to ask Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, what 825 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: has those four m vps done for the Giant the 826 00:39:49,280 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: Jets this year? That's what you do every time you 827 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: step on the field, Oh Joe. 828 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 3: I'm playing for my job. 829 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you're you already know what they're gonna do. 830 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: Though you're you're you already know what they're gonna do. 831 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: You know how difficult it is to find a quarterback. 832 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: You know how long they just be looking for a quarterback? 833 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: You're looking? Yeah, I know they still. 834 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: Look at even though Aaron Rodgers is playing back. It's 835 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: the possibility, is the thought. It's the hope that he's 836 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: gonna play like the Aaron Rodgers of bold and even 837 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: even if he shows a glimpse of flashes of the 838 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers, maybe for the Jets organization, maybe that's 839 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: just enough to give them hope that things may change. 840 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 3: Maybe. 841 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 5: So if there's an opportunity. 842 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: Or a chance for him to come back next year, 843 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: guess where he's gonna be because of who he is 844 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: and because of the exact same thing he said, Because 845 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: if his resumeate, he gonna get a chance just because 846 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: it's him. 847 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: Uh uh uh. I don't know. 848 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't know Woody Johnson like a 849 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: lot of other people, they seem to see that he 850 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: and the owner of the Jets, Woody Johnson, it's kind 851 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 2: of like they don't see eye to eye. There's reports 852 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: that he wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers at some point 853 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: in time this year. Coaches fought back at it and 854 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: fought back against that. If they want me to stay fantastic. 855 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: If it takes these five games, maybe they don't know 856 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: what I bring to the table. 857 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: Nothing this year. 858 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: But that being said, I love to play really freaking 859 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: well these last five games. It's oh, Joe, you see, 860 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. He thinks that the normal rules 861 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 2: for an NFL player. Joe Montana. Yeah, he didn't finish. 862 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: He didn't finish in San Francisco. Em And Smith, Bruce Smith, 863 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, some of the historic great players. 864 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 3: There are a lot of. 865 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: Top one hundred players that did not finish their career 866 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: with the team that drafted them. But somehow Aaron think 867 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 2: he should be exempt because of his resume. 868 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 5: And can I can I tell you something? 869 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 870 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: And that chat do y'all listen to me? Because his 871 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: name is Aaron Rodgers, because of what he's done in 872 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: the past, He's gonna get that grace simply because he's 873 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Even though some might not like it, we 874 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: might not like it. 875 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 5: It's just the honest truth. 876 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 3: I believe there's a greater chance he plays elsewhere than 877 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 3: with the Jets. 878 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: Nah, I don't see it. Well, you know the Divanta 879 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: is going after this. He's on He's on one year. 880 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 881 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, you know, you know. 882 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 5: You might be right. 883 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: You might you might be right, as most of the 884 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: pieces are gonna be going, you might be right. But 885 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: where would that be? 886 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 887 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: I mean they talked about everybody keeps hoping to get 888 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: the old Aaron Rodgers. You're just getting old Aaron Rodgers. 889 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not breaking news outside. Look if that 890 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 2: man has if he had another name on the back 891 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: of that jersey, ain't no way y'all say that man 892 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: deserves to get get the money that he's making, deserves 893 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 2: another opportunity or earned forget deserved because he feels he 894 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 2: deserves because of his resume, not based on what he's done. 895 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 3: Everybody else must feel I get this opportunity. 896 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 2: I've earned the opportunity to play here Ojo, to play 897 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: another season, to get another game. He feels he's deserving 898 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 2: based on what he's done, not what he's doing. 899 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 3: Yep. 900 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: And you know the funny thing. You know what he 901 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: can say it because he knows he's gonna get that opportunity. 902 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: He knows he's gonna get that chance based on what 903 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: he's done. Any other position tackles guards Stevens ends, centers, 904 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: d tackles, cornerback, safeties will never be extended. That grace 905 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: it's always this is there's always a special place for 906 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback, especially when it is done with Aaron Rodgers 907 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: has done in the past. Even today, even as bad 908 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: as it is, he will get that grace because of 909 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: what he's done in the past. The only position I 910 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: can get away on that block him. 911 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: Hm uh jamar Chase Dad said he could still win 912 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl with the Cincinnati Bengals. If our defense 913 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 2: was a little bit better, we would be in the 914 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 2: super Bowl. Talk this offense is unstoppable. 915 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, talk talk, come on, talk Papa Chase. 916 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 2: No oo oo, you can't. That's what I'm talking about. 917 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: Oh cho, people believe where is this coming from? 918 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 3: Be it true? Or imagine who they believe he's speaking for? 919 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 5: Then you're speaking for Chase. 920 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 3: I ain't. No, it's not a rhetorical question. I asked 921 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: you the quest. 922 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 5: You know what, that's that's you know what, that's a 923 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 5: good one. 924 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: But in this case, in this case being that I 925 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: know Papa Chase right, he's at He's at every game, 926 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: he watches every game, he's going through all the games, 927 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: and Chas has been a little kid based on what 928 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: he can see from sitting in the stands. 929 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 5: And going to home and away games. I think his 930 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you see it. 931 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: I mean it's right there in front of you. I mean, 932 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: he sees it every day. 933 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 6: But he's not saying nothing. We're not saying I know 934 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 6: I ain't said, but let me ask you this. Let's 935 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 6: just say, for the sake, let's just say, for the 936 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 6: sake of argument to me, you you with Dayton Rail 937 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 6: rail and Rail said he Now, we can see you 938 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 6: ain't getting to catch it. You ain't getting the targets 939 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 6: that you normally get. 940 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that my my man, Hey, they 941 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: give him opportunity. Y'all see what if you do. Y'all know, 942 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: y'all know, my man, he's been doing it for five 943 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 2: or six years. They believe even though we can see it, 944 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: do we believe that that's real talking or we believe 945 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 2: that's real talking for oo that. 946 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: That that that that's probably real talk about. 947 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 2: Even though I agree with you that probably his own 948 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: synopsis based on his knowledge of football is what he sees, right, 949 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 2: But that's not how the media and that's not how 950 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 2: people that watch will take. 951 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 5: It, take it right. 952 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,720 Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying now about it is normally 953 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: would it comes to family members, family members, family members 954 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: that really don't know the game like that, you know, 955 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: they just they go to it because you know, it's 956 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: it's a family, it's a comber friend. But in this case, yeah, 957 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm giving it the benefit 958 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: of the doubt because we have somebody that's really integrated 959 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: into the sport, that played the sport. 960 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 5: Now he didn't make it to the highest level. 961 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: But he is really into it like that, and he 962 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: submerged himself into it now that it's some plays for 963 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals. 964 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 5: So in this case, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt. 965 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 5: Maybe it might be something that Chase might say, but 966 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 5: so Chase Papa Chase to say it for him. 967 00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 968 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: I was very conscious of what I said around anybody 969 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: because but I but I always told my boy, I said, Mom, 970 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 2: anything that you say, they're gonna feel that you got 971 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: it from real spanky mm hmm, I said. My homeboy said, Bro, 972 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 2: whatever y'all say, they gonna feel it came from me. 973 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: Be always keep that in mind. You never know, just 974 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 2: because you know that person. You don't know who that 975 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: person knows. So they take what you said and they 976 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 2: go back, Oh, yeah, you know that's that's man. That's 977 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: a shop homeboy. That's it right here, Mane the one 978 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 2: bucket and Mark. Yeah, it's gotta be some truth to it. 979 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: So you just have to be mindful of what you 980 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 2: say because you never know. That's one person, right, but 981 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 2: he might know three or four people. And then you 982 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 2: get four or five gres of degrees of separation, and 983 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, you something that you said innocently, 984 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: all of a sudden grows legs. Y. 985 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm not telling you thing. You don't know. You've been 986 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 3: in this game. You know how this thing works. 987 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely do. But the crazy about it, I 988 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: don't have the stats in front of it. I think 989 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: dan Olski ran him off to you when you'all on 990 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: ESPN the other day about the losses that the Bangers 991 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: have had and scoring twenty four points and scoring twenty 992 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: eight points and scoring thirty four points, thirty eight points, 993 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and all these losses because the 994 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: defense is playing that bad. There used to be a 995 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 1: time they said, you scored seventeen, you win the game. 996 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you win the game. 997 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: And so the fact that they've been able to be 998 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: an offensive juggernaut weekend and week out and still lose games, 999 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: it's like, come on that. 1000 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 2: But here's the thing where I pushed back on deal. 1001 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 2: I understand he has minimal turnovers, but look at the 1002 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: games they lost, and when he's turned the ball. 1003 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 5: Over over and in the wrong time. 1004 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 2: You might have one turnover, but guess what, they pulled 1005 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 2: it out and they tied the game up with your fumble. Okay, 1006 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 2: you had a three point lead, but guess what you 1007 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 2: threw in a seven They kick a field goal and 1008 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: now boom. So you see, people just keep looking at 1009 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 2: the number of turnovers. 1010 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 3: But look at when he turned the ball over. 1011 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 2: You and I have always we concluded, Oh Joe, all 1012 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: turnovers aren't created equal. You turn the ball over in 1013 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 2: the first quarter, it's a big difference than when you 1014 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 2: turn it over in the fourth quarter you up by 1015 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: three or you down three. That turnover weighs differently than 1016 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 2: in the first quarter when it's zero zero or seven 1017 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: three or seven nothing. And so you go back and 1018 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 2: look at look at when he turned the ball over 1019 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: against Baltimore. Look at when he turned the ball over 1020 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 2: against Kansas City. Look at when the game that he lost. 1021 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 2: When they turn the ball over, that has to And 1022 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 2: guess what fumbles are turnovers? 1023 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 3: Also? 1024 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 2: People just say, well, he ain't throw but four interceptions, 1025 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 2: But what about the fumbles? How many times has he fumbled? 1026 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 2: Those are turnovers also because guess what if your defense 1027 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 2: can't stop their offense, you definitely can't give their defense. 1028 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 3: You can't give the opposing defense points on your possessions. 1029 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you already made it abundantly clear that you have 1030 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: to be damn near perfect. Even if you're not perfect, 1031 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: the one thing you can't do is to give the 1032 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 2: opposing offense a short field or give them points on 1033 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 2: your possessions. Because now you're like, well, damn, we can't 1034 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 2: stop them. We just gave them seven points. If we 1035 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: don't score here, ojo, when we come back on the field, 1036 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 2: the score is about to be ten nothing to fourteen, ohing. 1037 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 5: I guarantee you and put you right behind a ball. 1038 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 2: Now you're really now, you really really really got the press. 1039 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 2: I've been in situations where we couldn't turn. If we 1040 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 2: didn't turn the ball over, we weren't gonna lose but 1041 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 2: it's hard to play ojo because you're only gonna throw 1042 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 2: the ball on third down. They know you're gonna throw 1043 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 2: the ball on third down. So we see in an 1044 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 2: eight nine man box on first and second. Now, how 1045 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 2: difficult you think it's gonna damn be to try to 1046 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 2: get on third down where it's third and eight third, 1047 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 2: nine and they know you gonna throw it. 1048 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: You better make some hay on first and second down 1049 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: now and make those third guys. 1050 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you try, You try to get. Everybody wants to 1051 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 3: be thirty manageable. 1052 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at thirty manageable, thirty one to three 1053 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: mm hm five is okay. You start getting get thirty seven, 1054 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 2: thirty ten, thirty thirteen, you ain't gonna be picking them 1055 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 2: up on the rig. 1056 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: Your playbook shrinks significantly. 1057 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 3: The greater the distance, the smaller the playbook get. 1058 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 2: We only got like two or three players for thirty thirty, 1059 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: thirty law thirty ten or more. 1060 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: That's it. 1061 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 5: And most of the time you're gonna have to check 1062 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 5: them up fucker down anyway. 1063 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 3: Uh oh, Joe, check this out. 1064 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 2: The NFL will find players fifteen thousand dollars if players 1065 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 2: post their drug test request from the league on social 1066 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 2: media for a new memo sent to agents. Players across 1067 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 2: the league are extremely unhappy about this. 1068 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: Hey, but the NFL is so funny about control. I'm 1069 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: one of the ones who used to do that as well. 1070 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: I used to do that. And you know what's so 1071 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: funny about about social media, it's the fact that people 1072 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: in the chat. If you can go on Twitter right now, 1073 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: so just just do me a favor, Please go on 1074 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: to it right now and see if you can find 1075 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 1: me complaining about getting drug tested after the game. It's 1076 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: still up there. 1077 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 3: You know. 1078 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 1: It's something that I did, is something that some of 1079 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: the players do. And anytime you have a good game, 1080 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: a game that's out of the norm, they think it's 1081 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: something wrong with you. What they do, They've drug test 1082 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: you the next day. Hell, sometimes they might catch you 1083 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: right after the game. Yeah they might. 1084 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 2: I definitely didn't think it was random because I'm getting 1085 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 2: tested seven times a year, and the point of the 1086 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: kicker getting tested one time of year. Now clearly you 1087 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 2: look at them, clearly they whatever they take it is backfired. 1088 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: It ain't working right. I'm like, how's it random? When 1089 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: I get selected? 1090 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 3: Damn? 1091 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 2: There every week or every other week, and this guy 1092 00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 2: gets tested once a year. I'm compete. They come see 1093 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 2: me in the off season. It's also a based on 1094 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 2: position too. It's also a based on position. Yeah, what 1095 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 2: what are we testing kicker for? 1096 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: Anyway? Think about it? 1097 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: Eating too many hamburgers and pieces. That's what's his sister? 1098 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: But I I, but but ooe, tell me this, what 1099 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 2: do you what do you? What do you get by 1100 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: posting that? Are you trying to enlisit sympathy from the fans? 1101 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 2: I don't get. Like I said, I was frustrated, O Joe, 1102 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 2: because I got tested. I got tested a bunch, and 1103 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 2: even in the off season, because in the off season 1104 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 2: I was when I was living in Savannah. The guy 1105 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: would come to the airport, O Joe. I would meet 1106 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 2: the guy at the airport. He would get off the plane, 1107 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 2: he would go, he would we'd go into the bathroom. 1108 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 2: At that point in time, Oh Joe, they have to 1109 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 2: keep the bathroom open, so you would have to turn 1110 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 2: to the side so he can see it. 1111 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 5: And make sure you ain't doing nothing. 1112 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1113 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because guys have started getting the wizard Nata. They 1114 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 2: were getting somebody else you're in bag and strapping it 1115 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 2: to their legs. You know, dude darker than me and 1116 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 2: he got peat meat hanging down there. You know what 1117 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Come on, bro, So I said, come on, dude, 1118 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: that's the dude from Minnesota. O Joe, he don't got 1119 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 2: the wizard that that's out what they found out about it. 1120 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: Hey, that's that's coming. And you know it's funny a chat. 1121 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: This is so funny too. In the off season, it 1122 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you are in the world. 1123 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 3: Oh, get absolutely, if you. 1124 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,959 Speaker 1: Got to get a drug test, they gone, they coming 1125 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: wherever you are. You can be in Europe, you could 1126 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: be in Italy, you could be in Spain, you can 1127 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: be in London, They're coming. You can be in anywhere. 1128 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter wherever you are in the world. Once 1129 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 1: you have that drug test, even in the off season, 1130 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: you will get that test taken within twenty four hours. 1131 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 2: So you used to tell them, Joe, I'm gonna be 1132 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 2: in Saint Thomas or I'm gonna be out of town 1133 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 2: on vacation. Okay, we'll get you when you get back. Oh, no, 1134 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 2: where are you gonna be? They're gonna hey, they would 1135 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 2: ask you, where are you gonna be? 1136 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: What we gonna have somebody there. We'll have somebody there 1137 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: to meet you within the hour. 1138 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 2: They will they will show up, They absolutely will, Ojo. 1139 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 2: And that was I was like, because at first, O Joe, 1140 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 2: they used to let you go in the bathroom. Because 1141 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 2: what they would do they would be in the training room, 1142 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 2: they would give you the cup. They let you go 1143 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 2: to the bath yea and come back. 1144 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 1145 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 2: And then they were like, okay, they would follow you 1146 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,439 Speaker 2: to the bathroom, but they would let they would let 1147 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 2: h still let you close the door. But what guys 1148 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,320 Speaker 2: were doing they would already have somebody else you're in store, yeah, 1149 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 2: or into the cup, pretend like that, you know, and 1150 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 2: and so for the song. So then it's like nah, 1151 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 2: nah nah, y'all end it right, y'all, Thank y'all slick. 1152 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 2: So now drop your pants. You gotta put your pants 1153 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 2: to your ankle. You gotta turn to the side. I mean, 1154 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 2: come on, bro, another man watching another grown man pee 1155 00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 2: in a cup. 1156 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but hey, I'm. 1157 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 2: Gonna get this, y'all to getting no money out of me? 1158 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 2: Stand right there. I will fill it up. I can't 1159 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 2: give you, y'all ain't fit to get one dime out 1160 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 2: of shame. 1161 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 3: I promise you. 1162 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 2: But that's the way it is, that oh joke, and 1163 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 2: they say this is this is has they said, Now 1164 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 2: I read the member. They said it's always been a rule, 1165 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 2: but there was no I guess, no fine or no term, 1166 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 2: no punishment behind it. 1167 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 3: So now. 1168 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 5: They weren't enforcing it. 1169 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: But I think I think the NFL is down fed 1170 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: up and just players want to let people know how 1171 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: ridiculous it is that they're being fine, I mean fine, 1172 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: that they're being drug tested and it's normally after an 1173 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: exquisite performance. 1174 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 2: Every time. Every time, I was like, I mean, I 1175 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 2: want you know, just a coka. I had a ninety Okay, 1176 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 2: I had one thirty? What y'all found? 1177 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 3: What? I bean? I'm trying to figure out what happened 1178 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 3: in that week? Right? Well, what y'all why y'ally trust me? 1179 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 3: What I had? 1180 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 2: Foe catchers for twenty two yards? Y'all need a drug test? 1181 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 2: The coaches and asked them why they called them BULLGYE played. 1182 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 2: That's what y'all need to test? 1183 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 3: O Joe. 1184 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 2: The Ravens suspended Deontay Johnson for one game in twenty 1185 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 2: twenty four. Has not been kind to Deontaey from being 1186 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 2: traded off two NFL teams and becoming practically non existent 1187 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 2: in the Ravens dynamic confence, and now being suspended one 1188 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 2: game after refusing to go into Baltimore Week thirteen. 1189 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 3: I see O Joe. Yeah, I tried to tell you 1190 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 3: when he was in Pittsburgh, they talked. 1191 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 2: I said, THEY'RENNA toleration until they he took that same attitude. 1192 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 5: You. 1193 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 3: They won't listen to me. Oh how you know up? 1194 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 2: Because I know because I've been in the locker room 1195 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 2: and I was in the fact though I was the 1196 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 2: leading boys, and I've seen guys just like deonn Tay Johnson, 1197 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 2: and he took that same behavior. If y'all think this 1198 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 2: man this change, y'all think he just got like this 1199 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 2: when he got into Baltimore. U y'all think that chat 1200 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: y'all really think that's who? Do y'all say it was? 1201 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 2: Because that no mm hmm. But y'all don't want to 1202 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 2: listen to me. Oh think you know everything. I don't 1203 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 2: know everything. I know a little bit about everything except technology, 1204 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 2: But when it comes to human behavior, I know a 1205 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 2: lot about that. I told you, Yeah, y'all want to 1206 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 2: listen to me now? So I hey, hey, chat when 1207 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,959 Speaker 2: I was saying this behavior in Pittsburgh, where are y'all 1208 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 2: at now? Why we can't find no oh Joe, why 1209 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 2: we can't find anybody? They go against us? But when 1210 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 2: we right, don't nobody jump in the chat and say, 1211 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 2: oh Joe, I hey. I was one of the ones 1212 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 2: that said, oh Joe, you was wrong, but you was right? 1213 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 2: Why we can't get that Ojo? 1214 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Listen, I I do, I do listen. 1215 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying what he did was right. 1216 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: I do understand his frustrations, see getting traded to Baltimore 1217 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: and wanting to be an intricate part of the offense 1218 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: and really not getting those opportunities. He's had catches. I 1219 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: think he slipped on a few, he's dropped a few, 1220 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: but he's also caught some balls, but not to the 1221 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: point where he thought he would. 1222 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you're the one. You're go into it. 1223 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 5: You're going to a run a team they running the 1224 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 5: ball first anyway. 1225 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,919 Speaker 1: So your opportunity are gonna come few and very and 1226 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 1: and and few and how you said, what's. 1227 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 3: The word you want to far between? 1228 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, few and far between, especially in that offense, especially 1229 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: when they already have Za Flowers and and Baban and Aguilar. 1230 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get in where you fit in. 1231 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: And when you do get the opportunities, you're gonna have 1232 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: to make the most. 1233 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 3: You got to catch it. 1234 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, that that too, You got to catch him. You 1235 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 5: got to make the most up. 1236 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 3: Oh Joe, I don't look. 1237 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 2: I was a pretty good player, and I wanted to 1238 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 2: catch the football because I work my ass off doing 1239 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 2: the course of the week, I felt I had done 1240 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 2: all the right things, from studying to preparing to practicing 1241 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 2: hard to do it all the right things. I really 1242 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 2: wanted to catch the ball. Yes, sometimes they didn't throw 1243 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 2: me the ball. Yeah, guess what I did. Guess what 1244 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 2: I did on Monday, Oh Joe, you did take my 1245 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 2: black ass upstairs and pick up that check. 1246 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,919 Speaker 3: I got paid by the game, not by the catch. Right. 1247 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 3: So now, if y'all want to pay. 1248 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Me this amount of money to catch no balls, I'm 1249 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 2: gonna go right and I ain't gonna say a word. 1250 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Right y'all want to be Hey, if I call thirteen passes, 1251 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 2: I made the same amount of money as if I 1252 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 2: called two. Now it's gonna look fully show y'all. But 1253 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not fit. I'm not finna get lose 1254 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 2: my mind. But y'all not throwing me the ball because 1255 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 2: I know what I can do. Y'all know what I 1256 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 2: can do. 1257 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, But to. 1258 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Not go in a game, yeah, hell no, o Yo, 1259 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: that's that's that's hella fast hello. Frustration built up. 1260 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 2: What you need you need to be Jaried Rice. I remember, 1261 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 2: I think, oh, what who was it? Was it Bill Callahan? 1262 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 2: It might have been Bill callahad that broke Jared Rice's 1263 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 2: consecutive game streak of catching a pass. Jared had like 1264 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 2: two something over two hundred catches and he didn't throw 1265 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 2: him a pass. 1266 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Damn. 1267 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he snapped it. He broke it. Go back 1268 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 2: and look at it. I think it against the Seahawks. 1269 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 2: And then at the point in time on Yo, they 1270 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 2: were up, so you know they're not gonna throw the ball, right. 1271 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 3: Jared was frustrated. 1272 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: Crazy. 1273 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Jerry came out there the next weekend went crazy. I 1274 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 2: don't know if he went crazy, but he took his 1275 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 2: ass in the game. And that's Jerry. At the time. 1276 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 2: At the time that happened, Jared was the greatest receiver 1277 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 2: had ever played. And if he go take it. Man, Hi, 1278 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 2: you in good cars to tell the coach you ain't 1279 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 2: going in the game on Yo. 1280 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I meant listen, I've never been in a position 1281 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 5: like that where I had. 1282 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to be in a position like that. 1283 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 2: On Joe, football player, that's my job is taking my 1284 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 2: black ass in the game. Yeah, oh Joe, I never 1285 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 2: want to. I never wanted to have that kind of 1286 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 2: power that I feel. Look, I've been very fortunate that, 1287 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 2: you know, played on some teams and they kind of 1288 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 2: gave me some leeway. But they tell you a lot 1289 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 2: about a person that has power and doesn't amuse it. 1290 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 3: M M, tell you a lot about the person. Now. 1291 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody can't use that kind of power for good. 1292 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes people are using for bad and taking advantage of it, right. Uh, 1293 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 2: you know being in Baltimore, you know, I remember when 1294 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 2: we went to Baltimore and uh, you know, we didn't 1295 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 2: have a whole lot of rules. 1296 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 3: Don't ya just be on time? Things like that. 1297 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes it drove me crazy that Coach Belichick would let 1298 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 2: guys skirt on the time, but hey, it is what 1299 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 2: it is. We go to the super Bowl. Now we 1300 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 2: don't have bet check right. He gave us one rule, coach. 1301 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 2: Coach Belichick gave us one rule. He says, I want 1302 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 2: everybody to ride the bus from the hotel to the 1303 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 2: practice field. What practice is over. I want everybody to 1304 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 2: get on the bus and ride back to the hotel. 1305 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 2: After that, you can do whatever you want to do. Okay, 1306 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 2: Rookie he from Florida, his mom and dad down. He 1307 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,959 Speaker 2: gonna ride back to the He talked about he gonna 1308 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 2: ride back to the hotel with his parents. 1309 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 3: I know, no, F you ain't what I said, Oh no, 1310 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 3: F you ain't. 1311 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 2: I said, you think you fitling an infidel for everybody, 1312 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I said, the man gave us one. We don't have, 1313 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 2: bad check. We don't have we don't have nothing. And 1314 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 2: the man said, I got one rule. From the hotel 1315 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 2: to the practice field, practice field, back to the hotel. 1316 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 3: And you talking about it. 1317 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 2: Boy, that's really the only time I won't you. I 1318 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 2: haven't really got mad, right, Oh your it's the Super Bowl. 1319 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1320 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't think he really understood the significance of it. 1321 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: Remember he's just looking at it like another game. But 1322 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: they chronicled this one and this this one here for perpetuity. 1323 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 2: They got I don't know how many games they played, 1324 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 2: probably fifteen thousand, seventeen eight hundred. They've only played at 1325 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 2: that point in time thirty five super Bowls. And now 1326 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 2: you think I'd better let you potentially hang a m man, 1327 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 2: you'll get your ass on this bus. I'm gonna be 1328 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 2: I gonna have to fight you and your parents, but 1329 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 2: you get you get your ass on that bus. 1330 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: Bad. Please don't. 1331 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 5: Yes, you can't do that. That's that Joe. 1332 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 2: You think if you're coaching o Jo, you in Cincinnati 1333 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 2: and Marvin say, oh yo, y'all just got one rule. 1334 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 2: He say, hey, o Cho, you could wear whatever you 1335 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 2: want to. Well, you can wear one play, you could 1336 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 2: wear shorts, you could wear this, you could wear that. 1337 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 2: He said, Oh Cho, all I want you to do 1338 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 2: is that I want you to right from the practice field. 1339 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 2: I want you to take I want you to get 1340 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 2: to get on these golf cards and go down to 1341 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 2: the practice field and then get on the golf cards 1342 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 2: and go back to the facility. 1343 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 3: That's the only rule I got for you. 1344 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, simple as that. 1345 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 3: Oh Joe. 1346 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson said he hasn't spoken to Kirk Cousins since 1347 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 2: he left in free agency, O Joe, did you talk 1348 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 2: to former teammates if they left in free agency? 1349 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, not, not really, not really, I really didn't. 1350 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: I remember TJ left and went to Seattle, if I'm 1351 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: not mistaken, and the Raiders. Carson left and went to 1352 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Arizona and went to the Raiders. 1353 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 5: No, no, we did. We didn't talk much. But what 1354 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 5: we did do is we did keep in communication in 1355 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 5: the off season. Like in season. 1356 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, when players left, we exchanged pleasantries before the left, 1357 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 1: and you know that that was it. That was that 1358 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: was pretty much it. So especially in the season, you know, 1359 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 1: we didn't talk much. Yeah, the funny thing about it, 1360 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: we didn't talk much when they left then, but now 1361 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: we talk more and we ain't played and so. 1362 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 5: Goddamn long, which is weird. 1363 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's always on their own program, and you 1364 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: hate to see him go. 1365 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 5: That's one thing about it. 1366 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: You hate to see him go, especially you know, the 1367 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 1: combination and the duo that TJ and I were during 1368 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 1: that time, and to see Carson, God was also sad. 1369 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 1: But you know, we didn't we didn't communicate after that. 1370 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 5: Man, once they. 1371 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: Were going, they were going. They you know, we understood 1372 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the business aspect of things and the way things work. 1373 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 1: You know, if I see when in passing an off season, 1374 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's all love. 1375 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 3: I did. 1376 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 2: When I left Baltimore, went back to Denver, Me and 1377 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 2: Ray we still talk once twice a week when I went. 1378 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 2: When I left Denver and went to Baltimore, me and Burns. 1379 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 2: But it Burns ended up leaving and going to Tampa. Well, 1380 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 2: he left in Tampa in ninety nine, and so I 1381 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: was there by myself that that was the worst year 1382 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 2: of my entire life and been in fourteen years. That 1383 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 2: was the worst year I ever had. But he and 1384 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 2: I we still talk. We're normal. We talked every day. 1385 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 2: But those were really the only two guys that I 1386 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 2: really talked to during the season. But like you said, 1387 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 2: once the season was over, you know, a lot of 1388 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 2: the guys, Fats and a couple of other guys, Duke Jackson, House, 1389 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 2: well we still were still communicated and we you know, 1390 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 2: I got you know, we're close today. But yeah, I 1391 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 2: can see Justine. I mean, I don't think I don't 1392 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 2: think that's unusual. Now, I didn't have a quarterback. I 1393 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback leaving for Regency. Uh, but no, Hell, 1394 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 2: I wasn't talk to the quarterback. Hell, John and I 1395 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 2: didn't talking off season, so I know, damn well, if 1396 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 2: I had gone to another team or he had gone 1397 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 2: to another team, we weren't gonna be. 1398 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 3: Talking during the season. 1399 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Now we didn't talk it off season, and we're on 1400 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 2: the same damn team. So I don't I don't think that. 1401 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that's strange at all, O Joe, you. 1402 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely not, Absolutely not, because I don't know. I mean, 1403 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 5: I lived, I lived in. 1404 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: The volume. 1405 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 3: Mhm.