Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and.
Speaker 2: Get Katie and he Armstrong and Getty. Guys.
Speaker 3: Eight years after the epic concert disaster that was Firefest,
Speaker 3: tickets just went on sale for fire Fest two. Yeah,
Speaker 3: tickets are now on sale.
Speaker 2: And some costs up to one million dollars.
Speaker 3: Even the people who invested in Huck toua crypto, think
Speaker 3: this is bad idea.
Speaker 4: Oh so you got you got wide eyed there, Katie
Speaker 4: over the announcement of this.
Speaker 2: Why is it?
Speaker 5: I cannot believe they're going to try to do this again.
Speaker 5: This was This was the most catastrophic, expensive, celebri already
Speaker 5: covered event on planet Earth. This is the one where
Speaker 5: all the celebrities showed up and there were tents and
Speaker 5: they got like bologney sandwiches that looked like they were
Speaker 5: from a prison.
Speaker 1: And everybody lost their ass on it. Everybody lost huge
Speaker 1: amounts of money. This guy was jailed, wasn't he. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he edited it up. He was prosecuted. He gets out
Speaker 1: and says time for fire Fast too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was this guy.
Speaker 5: McFarlane and jaw Rule the rapper was behind it, and uh,
Speaker 5: there's a great documentary.
Speaker 2: I think it's on Netflix. They yeah, i've seen parts
Speaker 2: of that before.
Speaker 5: Oh I cannot this is going to be so fun
Speaker 5: to watch.
Speaker 4: Was it an on purpose scam? That's what I never
Speaker 4: nailed down because I didn't follow it Clossey. Was it
Speaker 4: an on purpose scam or it was just he just
Speaker 4: went poorly? Just what?
Speaker 5: I don't think so, because there were legitimate acts that
Speaker 5: signed up to be a part of the festival that
Speaker 5: once they started to see it go to all hell,
Speaker 5: they were like, okay, we're out, We're done.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Woodstock two, speaking of really interesting documentaries.
Speaker 1: It was just a fuster clock and just a disaster. Financially,
Speaker 1: it's the same deal.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the website right now.
Speaker 5: Your general access tickets fourteen hundred dollars and VIP's twenty
Speaker 5: five grand.
Speaker 2: Well this is this is.
Speaker 4: Whoa. Yeah, when the money gets that big, you gotta
Speaker 4: be concerned that once they get the money, they don't
Speaker 4: care how happy you are with.
Speaker 2: The with the result. Is it even happens, This is hysterical.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if it happens, I cannot wait to see
Speaker 5: how this mean, because once.
Speaker 4: They got your twenty five grand, they can say, oh,
Speaker 4: you don't like Bloney SAMs, Just sorry, I thought you'd
Speaker 4: like them.
Speaker 5: I mean, last time it was so bad, to the
Speaker 5: point where the initial location that they had planned to
Speaker 5: have the festival, they sold so many tickets and stuff
Speaker 5: that the people were like, we can't handle this, so
Speaker 5: last minute they moved the local.
Speaker 2: I mean, everything was a mess.
Speaker 1: Well, and again, Jack, you're presuming a festival will take place.
Speaker 1: I'm picturing my fourteen hundred dollars, or if i'm you know,
Speaker 1: a VIP twenty five thousand dollars going away and never
Speaker 1: coming back again.
Speaker 2: I can't believe they're doing this again.
Speaker 4: You know what a lot of VIP is often just
Speaker 4: because I had this experience at the Eagles concert at
Speaker 4: the Sphere, which I didn't buy VIP tickets, but when
Speaker 4: we got to the wherever we're going in and they
Speaker 4: found out I mentioned to the person there that was
Speaker 4: my son's first concert of his life, and they were
Speaker 4: so excited about that, and they gave us the VIP
Speaker 4: stuff and the VIP treatment and everything like that. Or
Speaker 4: we're gonna make you a VIP or whatever. It's Basically
Speaker 4: you get a lanyard that says VIP that's more or
Speaker 4: less the sum total of it, and a poster and
Speaker 4: a bag. You know, tote bags which ben if the
Speaker 4: Earth ever crumbles under the weight of something, it's going
Speaker 4: to be tote bags.
Speaker 2: They just they're They're everywhere, They're all the place. Anything
Speaker 2: you go to, they've got a tote bag for you.
Speaker 2: How much toting do you do? I actually I've paid
Speaker 2: for a couple.
Speaker 1: That were very very cool or a VIP experience, but
Speaker 1: it varies by the band obviously.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm looking at the press release for this on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Victims of the first one go free another one I know,
Speaker 5: a safer way to enjoy music.
Speaker 2: But thanks, this is not going to go well.
Speaker 1: We'll keep our eye on this, all right, And so
Speaker 1: ends our discussion of the probably non existent ripoff music festival. Jack,
Speaker 1: do you want to get into the aforementioned topic?
Speaker 2: Right? So this is this gets pretty interesting. I know
Speaker 2: where I know emotionally where I am on this.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can back it up intellectually
Speaker 4: as well as I can emotionally. My point of view
Speaker 4: and most of the textures wholeheartedly agree with me, although
Speaker 4: that might just be the tendency to you know, you
Speaker 4: listen to this show, you tend to think like we
Speaker 4: think or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I hate to jump to my analysis, you know,
Speaker 1: before the end. But I think that tension that you're
Speaker 1: talking about is what the evil doers, and I hope
Speaker 1: that term isn't too judgmental.
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 1: Tension is what the evil doers are trying to exploit
Speaker 1: to get you to shut up and take what they're
Speaker 1: dishing out, because they make a very reasonable sounding argument
Speaker 1: for intrusions into families that are indefensible.
Speaker 2: But so, I've had two kids get physicals.
Speaker 4: You get them at around age thirteen, and they ask
Speaker 4: you the front office help asks questions, and then it
Speaker 4: goes to the next person and then and finally your doctor.
Speaker 4: I mention that because that factors into some of the
Speaker 4: responses we got. I don't like the questions. I don't
Speaker 4: understand really ninety percent of the questions why they're even
Speaker 4: asked to me. A physical is or Mike's son physical
Speaker 4: is you know, way them check their reflexes whatever, tell
Speaker 4: them if they need to lose weight, or if their
Speaker 4: eyesight's bad.
Speaker 2: Or whatever, but.
Speaker 4: Anything about the way they live at home. I don't
Speaker 4: feel like as any of your damn business. And I
Speaker 4: don't like answering any of those questions. And it's gone
Speaker 4: as far as and that they didn't haven't asked this.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if they put this in the
Speaker 4: chart or what, or if the state stopped asking. But
Speaker 4: I remember originally we were asked at the doctor's office,
Speaker 4: are there any guns in the home? And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 4: No way we're answering that question.
Speaker 2: I can't even believe you had the guts to ask
Speaker 2: that question.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm flabbergasted that at a doctor's office they
Speaker 4: would ask you.
Speaker 2: If you have guns in the home. To me, that's
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with your job at all. And
Speaker 2: a lot of the other.
Speaker 4: Questions they asked, in my opinion, some of you don't
Speaker 4: agree anyway. So some of the texts we got which
Speaker 4: are kind of all over the place on this thing.
Speaker 4: And I even brought up the idea of when our
Speaker 4: babies were born, them making me leave the room so
Speaker 4: they can ask mom, does he abuse you at home?
Speaker 2: Which I find disgusting.
Speaker 4: I just I just I find that abhorrent, And you're
Speaker 4: about to hear some pushback on the text line, which again,
Speaker 4: intellectually I kind of get, but emotionally I do. First
Speaker 4: of all, I agree with Jack hundred percent. Is not
Speaker 4: a medical doctor's place to ask about anything other than
Speaker 4: physical health. The sole exception would be if the child's
Speaker 4: chart shows a series of severe bruising and or broken bones,
Speaker 4: I'd say, you got some vidence that would suggest exactly Yeah. Yeah, Again,
Speaker 4: some of these texts are all over the place. I'm
Speaker 4: seventy eight. I was asked if anyone was forcing me
Speaker 4: to have sex. I replied, yes, my wife. Please don't
Speaker 4: make her stop. See I don't is anybody forcing you
Speaker 4: to have sex? I just where'd these questions come from? Again,
Speaker 4: we're about to get to an explanation from a doctor
Speaker 4: who will explain why they think to them.
Speaker 2: Every time I go to Kaiser.
Speaker 4: That's a big medical person in outfit in California. Every
Speaker 4: time I go to Kaiser for anything, they start with
Speaker 4: a slew of questions about whether I feel safe in
Speaker 4: my relationships.
Speaker 2: I refuse to answer.
Speaker 4: They do not like that, But then they think that
Speaker 4: taking my blood pressure and weight are optional. It's infuriating,
Speaker 4: so they might not do the actual physical stuff because
Speaker 4: that might be body shaming.
Speaker 2: Or something like that. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4: But the intrusive questions about your lifestyle, sure, those are okay.
Speaker 4: This one is pushedback to a topic we're about to
Speaker 4: get to.
Speaker 2: I'll save that one.
Speaker 4: Doctors asking kids state mandated questions about guns and homes
Speaker 4: and other random questions is just another version of teachers
Speaker 4: keeping secrets from parents. The state is intervening in the
Speaker 4: nuclear family as much as they can. That camel just
Speaker 4: keeps nudging itself into the tent. That's the way I
Speaker 4: feel about.
Speaker 1: It, and I think those who are doing it deliberately,
Speaker 1: like we've been describing or joined by the do gooders,
Speaker 1: who are, well, you know what do gooders are. They're
Speaker 1: just utterly convinced that it is appropriate for them to
Speaker 1: intrude into your life to make your life better for you,
Speaker 1: whether you want them there or not. Sometimes it's a
Speaker 1: mother in law, sometimes it's the state.
Speaker 4: I'm building up the people who agree with me before
Speaker 4: I get to a medical professional that will have the
Speaker 4: big pushback. Completely agree with Jack on prinal rights. You
Speaker 4: can't treat every parent as if they're abusive. Plus the
Speaker 4: state's definition of abusive is ridiculous anyway. I don't know
Speaker 4: what the state's definition of the abusive, but if it's
Speaker 4: you let them watch three hours of YouTube videos or
Speaker 4: something one day, it might be a hell.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well.
Speaker 1: One aspect of abuse is calling my son him rise
Speaker 1: decided to be her.
Speaker 4: For instance, Uh, when my son was thirteen, he had
Speaker 4: to get his TETNA shot for school. That's literally all
Speaker 4: I had him. Get, no physical in quotes. For that reason,
Speaker 4: I don't participate anymore. Just get the shots, because the
Speaker 4: physical is more questions.
Speaker 2: Than anything else. I'll skip that one and get to.
Speaker 4: The medical professional. I want to get to getting back
Speaker 4: to my text. Hold on just a second. I hope
Speaker 4: I have that. I hope I didn't lose that because
Speaker 4: it was really really good.
Speaker 2: Take your time.
Speaker 1: I'm giving myself a self prostrate exam during the pause
Speaker 1: in the action.
Speaker 4: Here, here's a good one. This is so and so
Speaker 4: in Seattle. Pushing parents out of the room and honing
Speaker 4: your tween. Handing your tween a questionnaire is step one
Speaker 4: of indoctrination of your kid.
Speaker 2: It happened to me in Washington.
Speaker 4: State, and it kickstarted my daughter spiraling into self harm,
Speaker 4: gender identity questions, et cetera. And then there was the
Speaker 4: school who made her declare he pronouns for the record,
Speaker 4: and that let her officially change your name and gender
Speaker 4: identity in the school system without telling me. Right, she
Speaker 4: would self farm at school, go to the nurse, they'd
Speaker 4: give her a band aid and send her back to class.
Speaker 2: Not a single word to me. I'm just the mother after.
Speaker 1: All, right, right, that is straight out of Marxism, driving
Speaker 1: a wedge between or a breaking apart the nuclear family
Speaker 1: so that the state raises the child and can indoctrinate them.
Speaker 1: They say it out loud. This is not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: They say it out loud.
Speaker 4: Somehow I did not capture the one I want to
Speaker 4: get to from an actual doctor, So you might have
Speaker 4: to do your the next little segment of this and
Speaker 4: I'll get back to it of the state trying to
Speaker 4: separate it.
Speaker 2: Okay, here it is.
Speaker 4: I found it. If my super slow iPad can bring
Speaker 4: it up. We're using like a Gen two iPad here.
Speaker 4: Hanson and I kind of have like a it's kind
Speaker 4: of like the episode of Seinfeld where Kramer sees how
Speaker 4: far he can drive on empt before he finally runs.
Speaker 2: Out of gas.
Speaker 4: Hans and I kind of have that thing going with
Speaker 4: this iPad. How long can we use this outdated iPad
Speaker 4: that you can't update.
Speaker 2: Anymore and make it actually work and might have reached them? Wow.
Speaker 4: I can give you the longest short of it, and
Speaker 4: if I have to fill in the details later, I will.
Speaker 4: It's basically a doctor saying, look, I agree with you
Speaker 4: guys most of the time on this stuff, but you're
Speaker 4: wrong about this. There is no sinister reason. Even though
Speaker 4: it is a small percentage of people that harm their children,
Speaker 4: this is a good way to catch those people. And
Speaker 4: if we can, you know, save one kid from abusive parents,
Speaker 4: it's worth asking everybody the questions.
Speaker 2: That's where I get to.
Speaker 4: The I understand intellectually what you're saying, but emotionally and
Speaker 4: in reality, I don't like it at all. I don't
Speaker 4: like treating everybody like they're a wife beating, you know,
Speaker 4: child abusing person so that you can, in theory help
Speaker 4: a couple of families or parents or.
Speaker 2: Kids where I don't think they're probably going to be
Speaker 2: honest anyway.
Speaker 1: Right, And the doctor has absolutely got a point, and
Speaker 1: it's a valid one. But the problem is this, there
Speaker 1: is a primal violation happening when you say to a parent,
Speaker 1: get away from your child.
Speaker 2: I need to deal with your child.
Speaker 1: And on my authority, I am removing you from the room.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's done much more diplomatically than that. They don't say
Speaker 1: it like that, but that's what's happening. And if there
Speaker 1: is ample justification for it, I get it.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem, though, doc, and this is just this
Speaker 1: is people comparing notes.
Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1: The Marxists and those who would break apart the nuclear
Speaker 1: family to perpetuate their evil plans for our country, for instance,
Speaker 1: they use that excuse to do terrible, terrible things, including
Speaker 1: the court case we're about to talk about later at
Speaker 1: this hour. So that's that's that's the rub, my medical friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, any more thoughts on that are texting and we'll
Speaker 4: we'll get back to this this latest court ruling, which
Speaker 4: is horrifying. The text line is four one five two
Speaker 4: nine five KFTC.
Speaker 2: Here's the text from an actual doctor.
Speaker 4: We're on the subject of you take your kids into
Speaker 4: the doctor's office and I ask them all kinds of questions.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they to separate you and ask the question separately,
Speaker 4: which I hate and just think god to be illegal.
Speaker 2: I don't have to go along.
Speaker 4: With it, and I don't, or even if I ask
Speaker 4: you the questions with you in the room, I don't
Speaker 4: like it.
Speaker 2: But here's an example.
Speaker 4: As a physician, I can say there's no sinister motive
Speaker 4: other than screening for health and safety in the home.
Speaker 4: As you pointed out, unfortunately abuse is more common then
Speaker 4: would be suspected. If a non invasive screening question can
Speaker 4: help to detect even the small number of relative to
Speaker 4: the general public, then it should be done. I agree
Speaker 4: with the majority of your guys' views, but with this one,
Speaker 4: I would argue you are misguided if concerned about the
Speaker 4: questions and discuss with your physician. I also suggest building
Speaker 4: a report and trust with your doctor over time so
Speaker 4: these questions don't seem intrusive rather than looking out for
Speaker 4: your kid's physical and psychological health. Well, I do have
Speaker 4: a good relationship with my doctor and report. But if
Speaker 4: you get into this situation where a doctor you're sitting
Speaker 4: there with your kid, and the doctor's asking the kids
Speaker 4: questions about what you eat, or how much screen time
Speaker 4: you get to whatever. Why didn't you ask me that
Speaker 4: You obviously don't believe me or trust me, or you're
Speaker 4: trying to catch me.
Speaker 2: In a lie by? I mean, what is even going
Speaker 2: on there?
Speaker 4: You taking the role of the alpha in the room
Speaker 4: is what I don't like. I'm the alpha, always will
Speaker 4: be the alpha. You ain't the alpha. You ain't the
Speaker 4: one making the decisions here. I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's defensible from a scientific slash medical point of view,
Speaker 1: I suppose. But the problem is, as I said before,
Speaker 1: and the first the reason this is so top of
Speaker 1: mind for me is the first Circuit court just held
Speaker 1: that parents have no right to know about their eleven
Speaker 1: year old.
Speaker 2: Changing gender in school.
Speaker 1: And the court's decision talks about our pluralistic society assigns
Speaker 1: those curricular and administrative decisions. Can you imagine my child
Speaker 1: is having a mental health crisis and the court calls
Speaker 1: that an administrative and curricular decision to the expertise of
Speaker 1: school officials charged with the responsibility of educating children. So, doctor,
Speaker 1: you are one hundred percent right, and I agree with
Speaker 1: you in principle. It's that same principle that's being used
Speaker 1: as an excuse for the teacher to indoctrinate the child
Speaker 1: and to try to pry the child apart from the parent.
Speaker 1: You see our discomfort there. It has the same explanation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker 1: You're right, doctor, the school is perverse and sick, and
Speaker 1: it's the same explanation. So the line's got to be
Speaker 1: drawn somewhere, right, Well, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: want to draw it to the heir, to the side
Speaker 1: of no, this is my child, this is my family.
Speaker 1: I'm in charge here, you're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But
Speaker 1: again that does not in any way negate what the
Speaker 1: doctor has said.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: M Anyway, we're getting lots of text on this, keep
Speaker 4: them coming. If there's any good ones, we'll probably delve
Speaker 4: into it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: There's a proposed long call unicorn or that is kind
Speaker 1: of tangentially similar. I think Katie's going to tell us
Speaker 1: about and then some you know, some good light fun
Speaker 1: stuff as well.
Speaker 4: It's very serious today. I'm sorry, I'm sick. This is
Speaker 4: no joking matter. I might have a cold. You think
Speaker 4: that's funny?
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. Thirty more minutes and we're done. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm at I don't like your attitudes. Something I
Speaker 2: don't feel good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I decided I needed to rant just a little
Speaker 1: longer about this first circuit ruling.
Speaker 4: Really, it'll be overturned, right, It's just going to take
Speaker 4: a long time, which is very frustrating.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, yeah, I suspect it will be, although
Speaker 1: I don't The legal reasoning seems to be sociological reasoning
Speaker 1: to me, and so I hope it will be slapped down.
Speaker 1: I think it also if people hear about it might
Speaker 1: cause this sort of reawakening we need, societally speaking, so
Speaker 1: we can fight back against these people.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 1: They're organized, they're strategic, they know what they want to do.
Speaker 1: They want to indoctrinate your child and brye them away
Speaker 1: from your family. The rest of us are kind of
Speaker 1: we're not organized. We're not being strategic anyway. So the
Speaker 1: first circuit just held that parents have no right to
Speaker 1: know about their eleven year old changing gender in school.
Speaker 1: It was viewed as overriding parental rights. And the specific
Speaker 1: reasoning is just insane. And that's why I wanted to
Speaker 1: rant a little more about it, because it really it
Speaker 1: shows their hand. The court wrote and I'm quoting Jonathan Turley,
Speaker 1: who's been covering this.
Speaker 2: This is the court quote.
Speaker 1: Our pluralistic society assigns these curricular and administrative decisions to
Speaker 1: the expertise of school officials charged with the responsibility of
Speaker 1: educating children. Turtlely points out there's no more cherished rife
Speaker 1: than citizens raising their own children. Indeed, he points out,
Speaker 1: the right to raise the one's children according to your
Speaker 1: own faith and values is a touchstone of freedom. Conversely,
Speaker 1: the subordination of such rights is the harbinger of state tyranny.
Speaker 2: And they appeal to pluralism.
Speaker 1: Our pluralistic society, and totally points out the pluralism allows
Speaker 1: families with different norms and values to thrive. Public schools
Speaker 1: are effectively demanding that parents give up their rights to
Speaker 1: critical aspects of rearing their children as a condition for
Speaker 1: public education. It's a virtual slogan for school choice. I
Speaker 1: think he skips over, you know, the other side of
Speaker 1: the coin. They say, in defense of pluralism, all the
Speaker 1: kids come to school and we indoctrinate them exactly the same,
Speaker 1: no matter their parents' beliefs.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1: That's just that's just horrifying, And the fact that a
Speaker 1: court went for it.
Speaker 2: Is that's that's how do I put this? You know what?
Speaker 1: I will just read what I responded to Tim Sander
Speaker 1: for the last night, who texted me about this case.
Speaker 2: The fact that it exists.
Speaker 5: M M.
Speaker 1: I'm a peaceful man. I believe in words and ideas
Speaker 1: and patient persuasion. You f with my kids, I will
Speaker 1: cut your throat. This is the This is radical in
Speaker 1: a fundamental, primal way danger.
Speaker 2: And I mery that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean absolutely, it's a big deal. Choosing
Speaker 1: my words carefully here, don't everybody needs to hear about this.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see the number of times that's been reposted.
Speaker 1: H The interesting thing, interesting, the horrifying thing is that
Speaker 1: it's already gone so far that virtually the entire government
Speaker 1: education system is in on this, in on the way
Speaker 1: left philosophy anyway. Like you said, it's a virtual slow
Speaker 1: and for school choice, it's it's ought to be slogan
Speaker 1: for more than that, I cannot. I think it is
Speaker 1: a measure of how meek we are at submitting to
Speaker 1: authority that this has not caused more people to go
Speaker 1: absolutely ape pooh nuts.
Speaker 4: Right, and Uh, you know, similar to the last conversation
Speaker 4: we're talking about with the doctors, which is obviously different
Speaker 4: than the school I think at the top you have
Speaker 4: people that want to separate parents from children, and then
Speaker 4: some people along the way might agree with that, but
Speaker 4: you certainly have many layers to think, well, we're doing
Speaker 4: this because we care about the kids.
Speaker 1: Well, they concluged by the deceptive arguments of the hardcore. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've They've They've been duped.
Speaker 2: Happens all the time. It's like all the.
Speaker 1: Nice, half witted white ladies who fell under the whole
Speaker 1: Robin DiAngelo, ebrame x KINDI white guilt, anti racism thing.
Speaker 1: Even even the slightest scrutiny exposed it for the scam
Speaker 1: it is. But anyway, a lot of well meeting people
Speaker 1: fell for it, and this reminds me of it. Hey, Katie,
Speaker 1: can you hip us to that California proposed law we
Speaker 1: were talking about earlier?
Speaker 2: I absolutely can.
Speaker 5: This is from Assemblyman Rick Berry is a Democrat out
Speaker 5: of Los Angeles, and he's facing backlash over the new
Speaker 5: bill AB thirteen thirty three, which would limit when people
Speaker 5: in California can claim self defense in homicide cases. The
Speaker 5: bill is removing justifications for using deadly force, including defending
Speaker 5: your home or your.
Speaker 1: Property right right, and I've looked in some of the
Speaker 1: particulars of it. According to the bill, homicide would not
Speaker 1: be justified when the person was outside the residence in
Speaker 1: the victim, the actual victim knew that using force was
Speaker 1: likely to cause death or great bodily injury, and it
Speaker 1: could have been avoided with complete safety by retreating. So
Speaker 1: if you just flee from your house and run out
Speaker 1: the back door and let the other person blast their
Speaker 1: way in, then you're okay. But if you defend yourself
Speaker 1: and your family and your home, you're not. You're a murderer.
Speaker 4: Well, we all learned a lot about this in the
Speaker 4: Tradeon Martin case, which was in Florida wherever they had
Speaker 4: their particular stand your ground rules. But we're trying to goes,
Speaker 4: I guess in California, goes far the out of the
Speaker 4: direction as you possibly can. It's the opposite of stand
Speaker 4: your ground. It's they get your ground if they want it.
Speaker 4: You need to run away if at all possible, and
Speaker 4: let them have that ground so they don't get hurt.
Speaker 1: And then I face it b of this or number
Speaker 1: two Assemblyman Rick's Burr of Los Angeles, the jackwagon who
Speaker 1: proposed this.
Speaker 2: This has made me.
Speaker 1: This has pissed me off since I was a teenager,
Speaker 1: because I saw cases like this unfold. Aspect two of
Speaker 1: this homicide would not be justified when the person used
Speaker 1: more force and was reasonably necessary to defend against the danger.
Speaker 2: And that is where you get.
Speaker 1: And I think it's very important you serve on jury's
Speaker 1: I'm not denigrating jury duty. I don't try to avoid it.
Speaker 1: I seek it out because it's so interesting and important. Anyway,
Speaker 1: many juries have half wit jackasses on them who couldn't
Speaker 1: reason their way out of a paper bag. Okay, And
Speaker 1: you have that sort of person sitting there in the
Speaker 1: air conditioned comfort of a courtroom, stroking their chin and
Speaker 1: deciding did the person use more force than was reasonably necessary?
Speaker 2: I think they did.
Speaker 1: When you're terrified for your life or that of your family,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you got a bunch of
Speaker 1: people sitting in a seventy four degree courtroom deciding, now
Speaker 1: you overreacted.
Speaker 2: I despise that, I really do. So what drives this?
Speaker 4: Why somebody breaks into my home? What makes you want
Speaker 4: to write a bill that really protects the person that
Speaker 4: breaks into my home as opposed to me.
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of things at work.
Speaker 1: Number One, especially on the left, there's just an overarching
Speaker 1: theme of you must meekly submit to the authorities. Whether
Speaker 1: it's in the doctor's office, which is, to my mind,
Speaker 1: a pretty legit thing, asking about abuse, it's intrusive, but
Speaker 1: you've got to submit to that authority. You've got to
Speaker 1: submit to the authority of the school teacher who says, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you about your child's emotional health.
Speaker 2: That's up to me. You're supposed to meekly submit to that.
Speaker 1: And this is the whole don't take matters into your
Speaker 1: own hands, don't defend yourself.
Speaker 2: Let the authorities take care of it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a collectivist attitude that you do not
Speaker 1: have free will, you do not have self governance.
Speaker 2: We will govern you for you.
Speaker 1: And the other part of it is, and this has
Speaker 1: struck me through the years, there is a certain sort
Speaker 1: of person that knows, oh, they do not have it
Speaker 1: in them to defend themselves. They refuse to have a gun,
Speaker 1: and some people don't want to gun in their home.
Speaker 1: For fairly reasonable reasons. But they know they are not
Speaker 1: capable of unleashing deadly force, even when it was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent justified. And I think it bothers them profoundly
Speaker 1: when other people do it. They think they would prefer
Speaker 1: the world be nobody can ever do this, because then
Speaker 1: they can't feel the shame regret that they're not a
Speaker 1: person who could ever do that interesting little psychoanalysis.
Speaker 2: Therefore you no extra charge.
Speaker 1: And then I've just talked to some people who have
Speaker 1: that attitude and it struck me that, oh, I get it.
Speaker 2: You can't, and so you think no one should.
Speaker 4: And then the full Marxists believe the only time anybody
Speaker 4: would break into your home because they've been screwed by
Speaker 4: capitalism and they have no choice. So they're the victim,
Speaker 4: even if they're breaking into your home.
Speaker 1: Right as the Black Lives matter, Folks who are Marxists
Speaker 1: and they're willing and obedient pets in the mainstream media
Speaker 1: repeated they're looting it back. It's looting and rioting is
Speaker 1: the voice of the unheard.
Speaker 2: But so this is just the legislation that's been introduced.
Speaker 4: I always assume that these things will never go anywhere,
Speaker 4: but I'm often disappointed when they do it somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct, it's not been passed yet.
Speaker 2: Boy, that's so nuts. That's so nuts to like most
Speaker 2: of the country. So.
Speaker 1: Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco says, Sacrament of Democrats has
Speaker 1: spent the last fifteen years tying the hands of law
Speaker 1: enforcement and coddling criminals, using and abusing ordinary Californians in
Speaker 1: their attempt to make criminals the real victims. Now they're
Speaker 1: actively trying to tie the hands of our residents who
Speaker 1: have had to defend themselves against re released career criminals
Speaker 1: far too often. Blah blah blah. Assemblyman Tom Lackey's Republican
Speaker 1: and PAL says this bill is a complete assault on
Speaker 1: self defense. Imagine this, a violent criminal breaks into your
Speaker 1: home and you have to second guess whether defending your
Speaker 1: family is quote justifiable. The misguided energy behind this proposal
Speaker 1: is just beyond comprehension.
Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't second guess that at that moment, but
Speaker 4: dealing with the repercussions after that horrifying situation would certainly suck.
Speaker 4: Having just looked through the scariest thing of your life
Speaker 4: and then maybe you're in jail or something. Well, Jack,
Speaker 4: as you know, my hallmark is fairness. So let me
Speaker 4: raid you the counter from somebody who's in favor of this, Notably,
Speaker 4: gun control groups put out press release releases to combat
Speaker 4: the growing public outrage over this. This is Moniesia Henley,
Speaker 4: Senior vice president for government affairs at every Town for
Speaker 4: Gun Safety. She said the legislation bills on California's gun
Speaker 4: safety legacy and lays the blueprint for the rest of
Speaker 4: the nation. White supremacist and other extremists have hidden behind
Speaker 4: self defense laws to fire a gun and turn any
Speaker 4: conflict into a death sentence.
Speaker 2: Wow, what's white supremacists? Wow? Wow? So that's what it is.
Speaker 4: We are a white supremacist just looking for an opportunity,
Speaker 4: not defending my house when if somebody breaks in.
Speaker 1: Monicia Henley, if you're listening, First of all, thanks for
Speaker 1: listening to the Armstrong and Getty Show. Secondly, I will
Speaker 1: devote my every breath to defeating you and people like
Speaker 1: you until the last one is coughed out of my
Speaker 1: poor lungs.
Speaker 2: I hate you. You want hate speech, I hate you.
Speaker 2: There it is you whack job. Okay, we will finish strong, next.
Speaker 3: Strong, come down to the ten thousand episodes of The
Speaker 3: Price Is Right.
Speaker 2: We're giving away a lot of money today, tidy thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy two, I watched it in college, and
Speaker 4: Prices Right just stood out because it was people going bananas,
Speaker 4: and it's a really good cross section.
Speaker 5: With a miracle time. You've had over seventy five thousand
Speaker 5: people hauled on down who's the other way?
Speaker 4: Over three hundred millions in cash and prizes, and it's
Speaker 4: been one of the.
Speaker 2: Best experiences in my professional liage. No matter how my
Speaker 2: day is, as soon as I get the Price Right
Speaker 2: walks to the door, it all goes away. I want
Speaker 2: a show. Wow, Drew Carrey.
Speaker 4: If ten thousand episodes of The Price Is Right, Drew
Speaker 4: Carrey sounds like he actually enjoys doing that, which I
Speaker 4: assumed he hates it and has to drink his way
Speaker 4: through it every single day. But least he's pretending he
Speaker 4: really really enjoyed it. The thrill of watching people try
Speaker 4: to guess the price of things.
Speaker 1: Maybe the work environment is pretty pleasant and people are.
Speaker 2: A heck, it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I could fake it up. I
Speaker 1: hear you though, I oh man, especially at the point
Speaker 1: that you have a lot of money already.
Speaker 4: I was sick of fair amount as a kid during
Speaker 4: a certain period of time, and I'd be home and
Speaker 4: I watched a lot of Prices right, and lots of
Speaker 4: lot of Let's make a deal. That's how long those
Speaker 4: shows have been on since I was a little kid.
Speaker 4: But they were barely amusing and only something you'd watch
Speaker 4: if there was literally nothing else to do then, And
Speaker 4: there are way more things to do now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that feeling of this is just barely
Speaker 1: above the Mendoza line of watch, don't watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's barely above the line of just stare
Speaker 4: at the wall, and it's amazing that they continue.
Speaker 2: Who are you that watch these?
Speaker 3: Jeez?
Speaker 2: Can I buy some of your time? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like the innumerable Judge shows and you know Drew
Speaker 1: barrymore talking to minor celebrities shows.
Speaker 4: How do I feel like those are just a much
Speaker 4: higher level of possible.
Speaker 2: Entertainment and learning something than this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them. I do love a good Judge show.
Speaker 1: They just pay them too slowly, I mean, give me
Speaker 1: the verdict anyway. This is this is, this is maybe depressing,
Speaker 1: but it's true.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: For many years, the highest paid person in entertainment was
Speaker 1: Judy Sheinlan. Judge Judy, those dopey shows for folks who
Speaker 1: don't work, can't work, are retired, are on the dole
Speaker 1: government disability.
Speaker 2: That what you're gonna where the money is? Is that
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do with the retirement.
Speaker 4: You work your whole life so you can retire, and
Speaker 4: you're gonna watch daytime television.
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 1: I hate to judge anybody who's not doing any harm.
Speaker 2: I don't mind. Go ahead, I'll tag you in, judge,
Speaker 2: I'll judge it. You're wasting your life. Can I buy
Speaker 2: some of your hours? Michael? How much time do we
Speaker 2: have before final thoughts and everything? Thirty seconds?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna squeeze this in getting back to the hole,
Speaker 1: it's white supremacists and other extremist hiding behind self defense laws.
Speaker 2: Two things to Monesia Henley.
Speaker 1: Who I would guess given what she said, is a
Speaker 1: black woman.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's just a woke white person, but anyway, James
Speaker 1: Lindsay brilliantly summed up critical race theory and what it's
Speaker 1: trying to do.
Speaker 2: Once by saying it's a tool.
Speaker 1: You call something racist until you're in charge of it, and.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what she's doing.
Speaker 1: You call self defense racist until you've changed the law.
Speaker 2: The idea that.
Speaker 1: Violence disproportionately is angry white people hurting innocent black people, well,
Speaker 1: to say that's not born out by the statistics is
Speaker 1: soft pedaling it by about a thousand times.
Speaker 2: There's a hole in the show. You know it's time
Speaker 2: to go. It's time for final thoughts. On your feet,
Speaker 2: there you go. Here's your host for final thoughts. Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Damn activists, they're everywhere.
Speaker 1: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Speaker 2: Michaelangelo lead us off. I got admit I watched a
Speaker 2: lot of game shows as a kid. Me and my
Speaker 2: grandma we watch the game shows together. Now she was retired,
Speaker 2: and one of our favorites was The Price Is Right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was a good childhood memory.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go, and Jack belittled you only moments ago,
Speaker 1: shocking Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought, Katie, I.
Speaker 5: Have a new Katie's corner up at Armstrong getty dot
Speaker 5: com that has the Jeff Bezos letter to the Washington
Speaker 5: Post people and a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2: And no, Jack, I will not spell Katie a K
Speaker 2: and a tea, so I don't even try. But corners
Speaker 2: with a K, right it is? I caved? Was cute?
Speaker 2: I love that Jack.
Speaker 4: The final fitting in with our theme. Recently, a friend
Speaker 4: of mine just sent me this. Toronto police are being
Speaker 4: criticized for suggesting people leave their keys inside the front
Speaker 4: door of their home because that's mostly what burglars are
Speaker 4: looking for when they break in, and to avoid a
Speaker 4: violent confrontation, leave your keys where they're easy to get,
Speaker 4: like your car keys.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what the Toronto police are suggesting.
Speaker 1: Canada is so far down the road to Crazyville, just
Speaker 1: like Great Britain.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: My final thought, I'm going to quote another authority of
Speaker 1: Tom McClintock, who in a conversation years and years ago said, Hey,
Speaker 1: even if the mainstream in the country is going away
Speaker 1: from what you know is right, just keep preaching it
Speaker 1: because they'll.
Speaker 2: Be back eventually.
Speaker 1: I'm reminded of that with the immigration stuff. Now, even
Speaker 1: you have people on the left saying, yeah, calling people
Speaker 1: racists for wanting order the immigration that was terrible.
Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour work to,
Speaker 4: in other words, keep fighting the good fight.
Speaker 2: So many people. Thanks a little time.
Speaker 1: Go to Armstrong and Getty dot com. The hot links, Oh,
Speaker 1: the hot links so entertaining.
Speaker 4: Hoping to be over my bird flu slash monkey pox
Speaker 4: by tomorrow see it then, God bless America.
Speaker 2: I'm Strong and Getty do not deserve their paychecks. It's
Speaker 2: true you could peel on my leg, but don't tell
Speaker 2: me it's rained. What the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound crazy? Even in Washington? That math don't work.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's okay, don't put word so there's
Speaker 2: a few kings in that slinking.
Speaker 4: You have depressed me to the depths of standing on
Speaker 4: a ledge.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here. I'm gonna put my head in
Speaker 2: the oven during the commercial break. You have an electric oven,
Speaker 2: it'll just get your head hot. Or I'm Strong and
Speaker 2: Getty