Speaker 1: It's to me, there was no rules. You came out
Speaker 1: of the blue, barding myself from mornings. Grasses, dumb, dumb
Speaker 1: with mornings never hit you look so cute esmen's suggesting
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Speaker 2: New, Welcome back, guys, good mom's bad choices. I'm Erica
Speaker 2: and I'm Mila, and we have a really special guest today.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to have her, my friend Deepaka. Yeah
Speaker 2: that was really good. I knew it. I'm like so
Speaker 2: honored to be here when I'm not like a mom.
Speaker 2: You know, we have a lot of non mom guests.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, we have like dad and not dad
Speaker 2: male guests. I mean we had like three moms, no,
Speaker 2: three people with children in general, so you're not the first.
Speaker 2: And a lot of our listeners aren't moms. Okay cool, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just regular thanks, regular peeps. But yeah, I'm so happy
Speaker 2: you're here. Deepica, is I have admired you for a
Speaker 2: long time? Think No, honestly, I mean she's my friend
Speaker 2: and she's worked with our brand before. Yeah, but Deepica
Speaker 2: is like a serious business woman and a hustler, and
Speaker 2: she's young and she's like killing it and just when
Speaker 2: you want something, you go after it, and that's she'll
Speaker 2: have more friends like her. Thank you, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's vice versa, right, Like, I mean, it's one
Speaker 2: of those things that I feel like you try to
Speaker 2: keep company around you of people that like bring out
Speaker 2: the best to you. Absolutely, that's like our whole motto. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the company you keep. And I's obsessed with your daughter
Speaker 2: and mom. I mean, it's the whole family. If you're
Speaker 2: not familiar with Deep because though she you know, she's
Speaker 2: an influencer. She has a brand called Tinted, which is amazing.
Speaker 2: It kind of caters to brown women and women all
Speaker 2: in between that are basically not being They don't really
Speaker 2: get the prison barn and represent representation and beauty and
Speaker 2: just in the world in general. But I think pretty
Speaker 2: much beauty. Yeah, it's the focus of the conversation is
Speaker 2: beauty because I don't think people, to me, at least
Speaker 2: in the Internet world right now, beauty is portrayed in
Speaker 2: one very specific way, and it's so much deeper. It's
Speaker 2: so much deeper than what you see at the surface level.
Speaker 2: And what I'm realizing is we keep calling it tinted
Speaker 2: across cultural beauty platform because we're recognizing, like the commonalities
Speaker 2: we have across different cultures to talk about those things,
Speaker 2: and actually we just did that earlier, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's like, I probably have lipstick over my teeth, but wow,
Speaker 2: that's good over But the idea of appropriating and appreciating
Speaker 2: those conversations, we're having real, honest, raw convos about that
Speaker 2: and people are learning. When we started, it was just
Speaker 2: gonna be, to be honest, like a South Asian platform,
Speaker 2: because to me, it was like within women of color
Speaker 2: and minority representation and beauty, I saw black and I
Speaker 2: saw Latina, and I didn't see myself, and that obviously
Speaker 2: it was like a step forward, but it bothered me
Speaker 2: that I didn't see myself. But as we started posting
Speaker 2: people on the page that were South Asian, other cultures
Speaker 2: would chime in and be like, I have facial hair
Speaker 2: issues too, I have hyper pigmentation too, and it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: you know what, there's actually more commonalities between it than
Speaker 2: we realize. So it's pretty dope because honestly, I'm learning
Speaker 2: as we go, and I think each time we post,
Speaker 2: I'm learning more and more. Wow, Like there really is
Speaker 2: things that connect us that nobody's really talking about. Because
Speaker 2: we're so busy discussing our own individual cultural like beauty concerns. Right,
Speaker 2: it's interesting anyways, it's been like so fulfilling. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's what you're doing is amazing. I love your tanst
Speaker 2: series of honored to have been at to say, you
Speaker 2: gotta watch her. I'm honored to have been a part
Speaker 2: of it. But your story is dope. And I think
Speaker 2: that's the thing, is like the idea of you to
Speaker 2: know is like we need to be talking about the
Speaker 2: stories that no one else is telling, which is what
Speaker 2: I feel like you guys are doing on this too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times women and I think
Speaker 2: a lot of times moms feel alone. They don't feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, they can be women anymore. They feel like
Speaker 2: they have to stop having the conversations they had before
Speaker 2: having children, or maybe they never even have those conversations
Speaker 2: to begin with. And you know that a lot of
Speaker 2: people that reach out to us are like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: like that happened to me, or I'm so glad that
Speaker 2: you feel that way. I thought I was the only
Speaker 2: one that wanted to kick my child in the head,
Speaker 2: like I'm that crazy. I thought, Well, I don't get
Speaker 2: how you do it, because I love being like the
Speaker 2: auntie who like comes in and like gets to hang
Speaker 2: with the Yeah, pulls up on sugar and then you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: I get hugs and cuddles and I bounce. Yeah. The
Speaker 2: not this tough stuff. The twenty four to seven is
Speaker 2: it gets pretty intense. Yeah, I think moms are super women.
Speaker 2: Like it does it. It blows my mind. I don't
Speaker 2: understand how you do it all. It's like once you
Speaker 2: have become a mom, like there's no return. You can't
Speaker 2: you can't take it back, you know, like, oh, here's
Speaker 2: the proceed I'm good.
Speaker 3: It didn't work out for me. It's very fucking permanent.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm thinking this is going right into it.
Speaker 2: But I've been talking about freezing my eggs and I
Speaker 2: tried to talk about it with why you're so young,
Speaker 2: but because I know it's I know my life right
Speaker 2: now and starting tinted and like I'm not going on dates,
Speaker 2: I'm not meeting dudes, like it's not happening anytime soon.
Speaker 2: And I have friends who are in their mid thirties
Speaker 2: that are like, just do it now because they're they're
Speaker 2: regretting not doing it. My best friend.
Speaker 3: Can you not freeze your eggs past a certain age? No,
Speaker 3: I think it's just that they're prime right now. So
Speaker 3: like if she called me twa, I, oh girl, I
Speaker 3: mean no, my my thirty year old friend is like
Speaker 3: she's talking to anyone. She's like, I think I'm gon
Speaker 3: phrase my eggs. I'm not telling me to do it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like.
Speaker 2: I think it's because I probably don't.
Speaker 3: That's my friend, that's that's my that's me interpreting how
Speaker 3: my friend talks. Like and then yeah, all my workers
Speaker 3: are telling me it's the time my eggs a prime
Speaker 3: right now. I'm not even dating anybody, and I think
Speaker 3: you're so fucking young, you're crazy. But it's also we
Speaker 3: live in LA. Everybody's doing it and body's fly's nice.
Speaker 2: But it's okay. This is how I think about it.
Speaker 2: And now I'm gonna sound like a friend, but it
Speaker 2: feels like an insurance policy of like the last thing
Speaker 2: I would want is to not be able to have children.
Speaker 2: And that's why I said, like, you may.
Speaker 3: Have issues and you don't even want to You don't
Speaker 3: even want to encounter those issues and have any issues
Speaker 3: that I see.
Speaker 2: How sad my girlfriends are right now trying and they're like,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, just do it. It's like a very
Speaker 2: small cost and the larger scale of life to not
Speaker 2: just do it if you truly know you want to
Speaker 2: have kids.
Speaker 3: You know, this is like I wanted to talk about
Speaker 3: this on a different episode, but I'm happy here because
Speaker 3: this is a thing Like, obviously me and Erica have kids,
Speaker 3: but my best friend we grew up together, are the
Speaker 3: best friend. But we me and her and both have
Speaker 3: kids and one doesn't. So I constantly see online like
Speaker 3: when she's posting our kids, like when's your turn?
Speaker 2: When are you going to have a baby? Oh? Who
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 3: And I think it's so disrespectful because I know women
Speaker 3: who can't have kids.
Speaker 2: I know women who are trying, and people don't know what.
Speaker 3: If a if people want to fucking have kids, right,
Speaker 3: it's not this mandatory thing you have over rage you
Speaker 3: must give birth, yeah, and be like after like twenty seven,
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to just fucking shoot out kids. It's
Speaker 3: not how like that. Everyone's not on the same schedule. So, like,
Speaker 3: do you feel like a lot of pressure and from
Speaker 3: your culture, your community. I know you're a huge in
Speaker 3: like your social social media and stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean on all of those layers. I
Speaker 2: grew up in Texas, so everyone I know has like
Speaker 2: three children and like is yeah, like got married right
Speaker 2: out of college and linked it that way. But then
Speaker 2: being Indian, that's the next layer of it where my
Speaker 2: parents like since birth were like trying to figure out
Speaker 2: who from the same village we grew up in I
Speaker 2: was going to.
Speaker 3: End up with.
Speaker 2: And the ironic part is I ended up dating a
Speaker 2: dude that like organically because I think I wanted that
Speaker 2: so bad because you knew that because I wished without
Speaker 2: even realizing it trained to thinking like that's what I wanted.
Speaker 2: And so between those two things, layers were like for
Speaker 2: sure there, but I am at the point now I
Speaker 2: will not ask a woman that because you never know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so rude. It's so rude. Yeah, and I don't think.
Speaker 3: People mean to do it that way, but yeah, but
Speaker 3: it does show like how backwards our society is. And
Speaker 3: there's so many things that need to change, even just
Speaker 3: in general conversation, right, Like women are not fucking machines, right,
Speaker 3: and come twenty ninth birthday, you're not supposed to be impregnated.
Speaker 3: You know, you're not supposed to just have a husband.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but when I think about a husband versus kids,
Speaker 2: I get so much more excited thinking about having a
Speaker 2: daughter than a man, which is like but that, but
Speaker 2: that's also like annoying and stupid too, right, It's like
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to sit here and pretend
Speaker 2: like I don't want to ever. I mean, we've talked
Speaker 2: about this before. It's like, I that would be a
Speaker 2: lie to pretend and say like I don't. It's not
Speaker 2: that I need one, but it would. I would like
Speaker 2: to have one, right right right? And you will? You will? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do your are your parents in your ass right now?
Speaker 2: About it? So it's weird because my mom is like
Speaker 2: the one who sets up every Indian girl in town.
Speaker 2: But oh she is so the matchmaker. She has like
Speaker 2: three successful weddings. Wow yeah, but also so do I.
Speaker 2: I've introduced three people that I got married, but I'm
Speaker 2: not myself and she doesn't pressure me. But my sister
Speaker 2: just got married this year. I was like a thousand people,
Speaker 2: beautiful wedding, fifteen days long, like it was. It was
Speaker 2: a true like Hindu ceremony wedding. Yeah, girl, we do
Speaker 2: have amazing weddings, like saying it's such a cool celebration,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it just happened this year, so she's not
Speaker 2: fully on it. But the other Oh my god. Last
Speaker 2: time I saw her, she came and gave me the
Speaker 2: biggest hug and she was like, I'm just so worried
Speaker 2: about you. And I was like, why, I think I'm
Speaker 2: doing pretty well, like I'm living my dreams, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: She's like, I just know girls like you you're just
Speaker 2: gonna work for the rest of your life and never
Speaker 2: find a man. And just like I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: now this is getting extra. Do we need to choose?
Speaker 3: You have to choose like Choericles versus a husband. I
Speaker 3: mean that kind of brings us start.
Speaker 2: I think I think a lot of it has to
Speaker 2: do with culture too, and like I think also, you know,
Speaker 2: your parents are like they're ready for grandkids. They're like
Speaker 2: I'm ready, Like I'm bored, my kids are out of
Speaker 2: the house. Me and my husband have like had our time.
Speaker 2: Now we're ready. They're like empty nest syr. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like we're ready to know you have a little person
Speaker 2: come in here and you know, spoil them and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think cultural you're right, yeah, and like I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know a lot about your culture,
Speaker 2: but like and I just know like what the stereotypes are, right,
Speaker 2: like Indian Indian. Let me tell you what. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you what. I yeah, tell you because I can
Speaker 2: totally be wrong. Yeah, but that, Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of arranged marriages that you know, their families want their
Speaker 2: children to be like highly educated doctors, lawyers, you know,
Speaker 2: heads of hedge funds, whatever that might be marrying within
Speaker 2: your you know, your race and your culture and what else. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, you nailed like all the realityky, So the
Speaker 2: reality are arranged marriage. My sister is a doctor. I
Speaker 2: have forty first cousins. They're all doctors and like being educated.
Speaker 2: This is how I think about my dad's mentality is
Speaker 2: he wants his kids to have the American dream. But
Speaker 2: his definition of the American dream is very different from
Speaker 2: my definition. To him, the American dream is having respect
Speaker 2: in America, and having respect in America means being very educated,
Speaker 2: and being educated in his mind is a doctor. So
Speaker 2: it like trickles down. But for me, I'm more like
Speaker 2: I want to create a path for people that hasn't
Speaker 2: been created for me. That's my American dream. So there's
Speaker 2: this conflict between his mentality and mind that we have
Speaker 2: all the time. But I think I get it at
Speaker 2: the same time, Like they came here with nothing, like
Speaker 2: my dad like was in India in a village like
Speaker 2: literally in rice fields, and then to come to that
Speaker 2: and then give his daughter like all this opportunity. Like
Speaker 2: so I get their mindsets, but they also need to
Speaker 2: like listen to us, and finally I realize you get
Speaker 2: to a certain age where your parents finally are like
Speaker 2: you know what, like maybe they do know some things
Speaker 2: to teach us, which feels really good, Like I feel
Speaker 2: like y'all are going to trip out when you're done,
Speaker 2: Like you know when they say that to you and
Speaker 2: they're like wait, wait, like your kids are teaching you.
Speaker 2: I feel like that daily. Really yeah, now I do
Speaker 2: feel like that. I think maybe it's attach your mom.
Speaker 2: I think it's hard. I think the generation that our
Speaker 2: parents grew up, that's something that you don't really you
Speaker 2: can't it's hard to acknowledge. Yes, Whereas I think now
Speaker 2: we're like Millennis and I feel like we are a
Speaker 2: little bit more open to the idea of like this
Speaker 2: hierarchy between children and parents, and like, I know everything
Speaker 2: you learn from me, where like I think, I think
Speaker 2: I look forward to I reteaching me things. She's taught
Speaker 2: me so many things about patience. You know, she's taught
Speaker 2: me how to love in a different way too, you know,
Speaker 2: like really taking care of someone and loving them unconditionally.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's innate within me, because you know,
Speaker 2: you're they're they're like this little person that comes from
Speaker 2: you to just kind of love them un conditionally. But
Speaker 2: there's times where I'm like, oh my god, and I
Speaker 2: can't imagine, like as a teenager, like her disappointing me
Speaker 2: and like or doing something terrible. I mean, we've had
Speaker 2: an episode where we talked about like what if your
Speaker 2: parents said he is like a serial killer? Like how
Speaker 2: do you like? Yeah, like is it unconditional? Like what then?
Speaker 2: You know? And I think it is even then, Like
Speaker 2: I've been watching I've been watching I've been watching id
Speaker 2: ID TV, and like there's been all these serial killer
Speaker 2: like Jeffrey Dahmer, like When the Parents The Parents. There's
Speaker 2: a series called When Kids Killed No I've seen that one,
Speaker 2: but the parents that I noticed are always like it
Speaker 2: was such a good one. Like, I don't know, they're
Speaker 2: all in denial.
Speaker 3: I just like traditionally, because Jeffrey Dahmer was like killing animals,
Speaker 3: there must be something deep rooted to all of that though,
Speaker 3: right killer. I think the fucked up part is is
Speaker 3: that there is some deep rooting and a lot of
Speaker 3: times people who like have like our fucked up adults
Speaker 3: have had really dark, weird childhoods. But I think also
Speaker 3: sometimes people just come through us and that has really
Speaker 3: nothing to do with anything, like it's just mental. I
Speaker 3: think some I think Jeffrey Dahmer was just like something
Speaker 3: was wrong. Like I just think sometimes we're just a
Speaker 3: vessel and people are coming through and we.
Speaker 2: Got to kind of like take it.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with that too, And I don't know
Speaker 3: what the lesson in having a serial killer child would be, but.
Speaker 2: Please God, don't let it be me. No. But so yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean this going back to what we were talking about,
Speaker 2: like the stereotypes of you know, your culture, I mean,
Speaker 2: they're real, I mean, and it's not something that's even
Speaker 2: so the idea of arranged marriages I think is so
Speaker 2: fascinating because I wouldn't. My parents describe this to me
Speaker 2: recently and they were like, it wasn't forced. We were
Speaker 2: introduced and like we hit it off. It's just weird
Speaker 2: because it's in within forty eight hours. You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you hit it off in forty eight hours. They just
Speaker 2: had this chemistry. But the divorce rate for people who
Speaker 2: have arranged marriages is so much lower because like it's
Speaker 2: I do you think also, because divorcing is like, yes,
Speaker 2: oh of course that's a huge part of it, but
Speaker 2: it's more like they make it work, they stick it out.
Speaker 2: I am very I have a completely different take on that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you're not happy, get out of it
Speaker 2: and enjoy the rest of your life. But in general, yeah,
Speaker 2: like a divorce is so taboo. But arranged marriages, like
Speaker 2: I tell my parents now, I'm like, I would think
Speaker 2: my mom and dad would want nothing like an amazing
Speaker 2: guy for me, so I'm like, sure, introduce me. I'm
Speaker 2: not against it. But then they end up being like
Speaker 2: the great blah blah blah. They come from a great family,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, is it going to be the family
Speaker 2: and me when I'm seventy or is it going to
Speaker 2: be me and him? And it's cool because my dad
Speaker 2: gets that. He's very like I actually asked him about
Speaker 2: my ex boyfriend, do you what do you think about us?
Speaker 2: And do you think I should marry him? And he said,
Speaker 2: why are you asking me this? He's like, I don't
Speaker 2: want you to ever look back and resent me because
Speaker 2: of a decision that you made because of me. And
Speaker 2: that was like a crazy thing for an Indian dad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: say that's pretty progressive. Oh my god, he is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's just realized now through trial and error
Speaker 2: with us. Yeah, my sister went to India for med
Speaker 2: school and it was like something that when I was
Speaker 2: in high school, we broke up our families, so like
Speaker 2: in the sense of my mom went there to go
Speaker 2: stay with her while I was here being raised by
Speaker 2: my dad. And that kind of moment is something that
Speaker 2: we always have this sort of regret as a family.
Speaker 2: So I think after that happened, he was like, this
Speaker 2: is their lives and their decisions, not mine to make
Speaker 2: for any my daughter, which is cool. So when you
Speaker 2: have kids, yeah, are.
Speaker 3: You gonna would you are you for arranging in a
Speaker 3: marriage for your daughter or would you not do that.
Speaker 2: I think introducing I'm down to introduceing like you must
Speaker 2: marry this man. Absolutely not. And I don't think my
Speaker 2: parents would even do that to me, like introducing like
Speaker 2: your parents just have like a young homies like and
Speaker 2: their friends have kids. I guess that's true. I'm just like,
Speaker 2: who are the meetings? I feel like when I go
Speaker 2: to any city, like, people are like, oh, when you
Speaker 2: moved to LA from New York, like, did you know
Speaker 2: a lot of people? And I was like, I feel
Speaker 2: like the thing about being Indian is you have a
Speaker 2: built in network in any city you go to, Oh
Speaker 2: my mom will call blah blah blah auntie and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah uncle, and everyone's auntie and uncle and it's
Speaker 2: and I'm good, like I feel I really do feel
Speaker 2: like I have people who are like family here because
Speaker 2: of that built a network, which is dope. Like to
Speaker 2: have that in your culture so beautiful. I think that's
Speaker 2: something that we don't have in our culture, really I do.
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I think, like black people,
Speaker 3: everybody's your auntie and your uncle and your cousin.
Speaker 2: True. I guess that's true in a way.
Speaker 3: And if I go like I mean not everywhere, but
Speaker 3: like if I go said where, my dad's like, oh,
Speaker 3: let me call my friend.
Speaker 2: I think my friends out there. He may pick you
Speaker 2: up from the airport. Okay, exactly met him when he
Speaker 2: was too hold on, let me go Exactly. I don't
Speaker 2: want George to pick me up, but I remember him
Speaker 2: from an almost too, like, don't worry, don't work. But
Speaker 2: you know you're right. I guess you're right. And my
Speaker 2: dad does know someone anywhere to like help me with something, right, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: you need to beat up. Give me a second. Were
Speaker 2: you at having a thousand people at your your daughter's wedding.
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's insane. But at the same time
Speaker 2: I think, I think, yeah, I think we have that,
Speaker 2: but I think he has for sure, like like I
Speaker 2: don't have a thousand people to invite. No, I don't
Speaker 2: know that. I don't have a thousand people.
Speaker 3: The Indian community is very tight. It's very tight. It's
Speaker 3: very tight knit. It's very family oriented and I respect
Speaker 3: and I've really I'm trying to get in.
Speaker 2: If your mom knows any homies for me, yeah, I'm down.
Speaker 2: I have a cousin he's yeah, let's introduce Okay, I'm selling.
Speaker 2: I know, and Indian would be the most beautiful. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I do Indian A bile Indian
Speaker 2: Indian girl. I don't know that many.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eric's phone is singing because has your airplane mode?
Speaker 2: She doesn't listen you. I well, A, I don't know
Speaker 2: that many Indian people that date outside of their race. Yep.
Speaker 3: If I ever have talked to like an Indian guy
Speaker 3: or usually I said this whole time, if I did
Speaker 3: anyone outside of race, I'm like, what are your parents
Speaker 3: going to think about me? But I mean, even though
Speaker 3: I know Indian culture doesn't look this way, like feel
Speaker 3: this way, I kind of feel like Indian and Black
Speaker 3: are close.
Speaker 2: I know me too well.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I just feel like I wouldn't
Speaker 3: think it'd be that big of a deal. Why do
Speaker 3: you think it's close? Melanin same? But I don't think
Speaker 3: that is the common feeling. No, it's probably not. I know,
Speaker 3: I mean, and I know culturally it's totally different things.
Speaker 3: I mean, Indian people have like way more unity and culture.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's what Black African Americans lack
Speaker 3: in general, which I think sucks and we need more
Speaker 3: of that. So I end like even like in a
Speaker 3: lot of different cultures, there's a lot more unity. It's
Speaker 3: funny you say that because I would have thought the opposite.
Speaker 3: Really it's see and I'm I'm I guess so complating
Speaker 3: it to media and it seems like there's so many
Speaker 3: like black women coming together in the media being like
Speaker 3: we can all win, we can all come together. And
Speaker 3: I think that that's like really dope, and you're not
Speaker 3: seeing that as much in the South Asian side, which
Speaker 3: I hope did exist. But also you also just don't
Speaker 3: see South Asian people.
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Well, that's what I
Speaker 2: was gonna say. You just don't see. The numbers just
Speaker 2: aren't there yet, right, But I think I was talking
Speaker 2: to you about this is like our culture just isn't
Speaker 2: social media active. And that's that sucks for me because
Speaker 2: right like I'm trying to throw my social following and
Speaker 2: like build, but we're just not social media allowed. But
Speaker 2: you guys are a pioneer. You're going to be You're
Speaker 2: going to like bring that out or you're going to
Speaker 2: let some other girl on South Asia be like, oh
Speaker 2: I can do this too. I mean, I hope to you.
Speaker 2: I see you doing it, and I know it exists.
Speaker 2: But it's because we're trained to not be like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. We're changed to study and like
Speaker 2: have our voice kind of be like it's it's private.
Speaker 2: We don't know about this open legs, keep it. We keep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we keep our business to ourselves and we don't share,
Speaker 2: you know, just deal with it with the family and
Speaker 2: get through it. You know.
Speaker 3: I think that's Black people have secret not secretive, but
Speaker 3: like our problems are our problems.
Speaker 2: You don't talk about your family problems with other people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's but but that's the only that's the a
Speaker 2: Black people love to be on a camera. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: showing out dancing, doing the makeup. Oh my god, that's typical.
Speaker 2: But it's kind of true. We're lou We're loud and
Speaker 2: beautiful and proud saying that South Asians aren't. It's just culturally,
Speaker 2: you guys have you know, been taught to be you know, reserved,
Speaker 2: slowly changing because of like just im medium now with
Speaker 2: Pria Choper's out there, Mindy Kale's like things like that.
Speaker 2: It's slowly happening, but slowly.
Speaker 3: That is true though, because I mean, it's all stereotypes, honestly,
Speaker 3: because there's going to be a loud everybody.
Speaker 2: And a quiet everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, when I think of it now, like when
Speaker 3: I think of like Indian women or like women I've known,
Speaker 3: or if I meet us certain type of Indian woman,
Speaker 3: like I have a client, she's like real loud and
Speaker 3: real like boisterous, I'm real like you, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh I never okay girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like this is gonna.
Speaker 3: Sound really fucked up, but like like a hoochie Indian woman,
Speaker 3: like I have a friend who's fand with hoocci. I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is not supposed to not supposed to be the
Speaker 3: Succi You're like confused.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, who are you? But we're also like
Speaker 2: do you see our Indian outfits? I know, right, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's the ironic part about it all. But like
Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier, it's like I love seeing
Speaker 2: other people where our outfits. Like when you come to
Speaker 2: an Indian wedding wearing a sari, I think that's like
Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. It's like celebrating our culture, yeh, because
Speaker 2: you're there to celebrate the culture anyway. Yeah, so can
Speaker 2: we talk. Yeah, what are you talking about? Okay?
Speaker 3: So I always wear Bendi's because I like them. I
Speaker 3: like like face jewelry. I don't know why, I just do.
Speaker 3: I like hair jewelry and feathers in my hair. And
Speaker 3: today I wore a Bindi and you know what, I've
Speaker 3: never thought twice about it ever, Like ever, Like I
Speaker 3: go out, I wear all the time. I get compliments
Speaker 3: and I just think because I really I like, get
Speaker 3: Hannah on my hands.
Speaker 2: I like that. So today I came and she's like,
Speaker 2: I don't take that off? And I was like, is it?
Speaker 2: Is it? Am I culture appropriating? It's like culture, nothing else,
Speaker 2: but nothing else gets to people that are like Indian people,
Speaker 2: South Asian people. But seeing that because that's a symbol
Speaker 2: of Hinduism specifically and not a fashion statement, and there
Speaker 2: has been in the past people who have used it
Speaker 2: as a fashion statement, and because the meaning isn't there,
Speaker 2: the education isn't there, is frustrating.
Speaker 3: And I had no idea. So I'm one of those
Speaker 3: people because now you know. But that's why these things
Speaker 3: are so important.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I can't worar them anymore. Well, I
Speaker 2: would say, Jamila that you are a very pinionated person
Speaker 2: when it comes to other people appropriating Black culture. So
Speaker 2: it's like when it relates to you, you can't be like, well, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm totally here to listen. Well I know you are,
Speaker 2: I just say. And we were having this conversation too,
Speaker 2: like why is it? Because I feel like a lot
Speaker 2: of times, as black women, we don't feel like we
Speaker 2: can a cultural We don't like we can culturally appropriate
Speaker 2: something because our culture has been appropriated so much that
Speaker 2: we forget that there's other cultures out there that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, like the like the Bindi or or I
Speaker 2: don't even know, I can't like I can't think of it,
Speaker 2: or like the Geisha or even someone else. Like actually,
Speaker 2: I was at the beauty Blender office and one of
Speaker 2: someone who works there, I was like, I loved this
Speaker 2: dress and it was kind of like that, you know,
Speaker 2: like like it's not Geisha, but you know it's like
Speaker 2: the flower blossom. Yeah, yeah, pins over And I was like,
Speaker 2: is this cute? And she was and I was like,
Speaker 2: and I asked her, I was like, would you be
Speaker 2: offended if I wore this? And she said yes, wow,
Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, it's and I'm wondering if
Speaker 2: she would have been offended ten years ago, because I
Speaker 2: feel like in the last ten years it's become or
Speaker 2: even five years. It's just because everything is so sensitive.
Speaker 2: I think I don't know if she would I would,
Speaker 2: And my guess is that maybe not. And my guess too,
Speaker 2: like I'm not if I probably wouldn't have been offended
Speaker 2: by things ten years ago too, that I'm offending. I'm
Speaker 2: now too. It's just because we're just being educate, hated more. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and social media, yeah, everything is.
Speaker 3: But you know what I think, Like as much as
Speaker 3: I am like super pro black and like I am
Speaker 3: very opinionated on my blackness and other people's opinions on
Speaker 3: blackness and blah blah blah, one thing I will say.
Speaker 2: Is I don't really like I don't get offended.
Speaker 3: Like if a girl is wearing a head wrap and
Speaker 3: a dai shiki girl boom, you're with it.
Speaker 2: I'm with it. You know, I'm team Rachel Dolaza.
Speaker 3: Like I think I think there's intention if you're just
Speaker 3: being ignorant and dumb, like if you're trying to like appropriate,
Speaker 3: like I think, like I get bothered by like like
Speaker 3: I said, like I don't care if a girl has
Speaker 3: braids and you're white, or you're blue or you're purple.
Speaker 3: But like, if you're a white woman and you're wearing
Speaker 3: braids because you think that this represents.
Speaker 2: Being black, or you're like, yeah, Nikat, or you think
Speaker 2: more black men are you're going to try more black men,
Speaker 2: that's my issue.
Speaker 3: If you're like, I really like this hairstyle, just like
Speaker 3: I'm like, I really like I really like Hannah, and
Speaker 3: I really like wearing bendies because I think they're beautiful
Speaker 3: and I think the culture is beautiful and I have
Speaker 3: respect for the culture. And it's not like I'm trying
Speaker 3: to take or emulate. It's just like something small that
Speaker 3: I a piece that I think is cool and I,
Speaker 3: you know, I even though I should know that it's
Speaker 3: Hindu and not Indian, and there's all these things that
Speaker 3: you're teaching me, which I'm appreciative of. I think I'm
Speaker 3: not offended if someone wants to be a part of
Speaker 3: the culture and learn about it and they think they
Speaker 3: want to take a piece of it. I think that's
Speaker 3: the part of like being American and being able to
Speaker 3: diversify and take, you know, and like I mix them
Speaker 3: as Raeley dishes because my best friend is Israeli and
Speaker 3: I know how to do this because this, and I
Speaker 3: can do some Russian shit because my friend is Russian.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean I want to appropriate their culture.
Speaker 3: So I think it's small about intent. The intent always the.
Speaker 2: Thing is is like you're going to pist people off,
Speaker 2: and some people won't care, and that's just the nature
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, you know, and it's like it's like
Speaker 2: if it doesn't matter to you, then it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 3: And I think also because African Americans, I think what
Speaker 3: kind of annoys me is that we have been deprived
Speaker 3: of culture. You know, like what we get as African
Speaker 3: Americans is post slavery, and so there's certain things that like, okay,
Speaker 3: we have like a Mexican a huge Mexican culture and
Speaker 3: you know, California community and California influence. And because they
Speaker 3: they've been able to it's like keep their music, keep
Speaker 3: their religion, keep their language, keep that thing that that
Speaker 3: glues them together. But as African Americans, when you know,
Speaker 3: all we're taught is like our history starts at slavery,
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, watered down African culture mostly
Speaker 3: influenced by like Caucasian culture and slavery, Like we don't
Speaker 3: really have that, and I think that's why we lack unity,
Speaker 3: because we don't have that glue. And I guess, I
Speaker 3: guess it's just like the three things we do have,
Speaker 3: like braids, you know, corn bread, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: like let us keep it.
Speaker 2: But the stuff that we've created here like music right right,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, those type of things. But yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: like we don't. Like I'm Nigerian according to ancestry dot com,
Speaker 2: and I have known. I don't know anything about that
Speaker 2: culture at all, Like I don't understand what the different
Speaker 2: the different the different types of like communities within Nigeria.
Speaker 2: Like when I was dating that guy from you know
Speaker 2: my trembling with that. Yeah, yeah, we have the guys
Speaker 2: we talked about on our podcast. We've named them so
Speaker 2: trembling Lip. Whenever I kiss, he was always like vibrating
Speaker 2: and very nervous. Yeah he was. No, he's just he's
Speaker 2: not nervous. He's actually crazy and my god, hopefully he's friends.
Speaker 2: He's not crazy. He's great. Great, he's great, he is great,
Speaker 2: he is great, He's actually that was the most mature relationship,
Speaker 2: dating relationship I've ever had anyway. Wow, he you know,
Speaker 2: he was showing me so many different things and I
Speaker 2: was like what, And there's different languages and different Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just things that we don't know about, like traditions.
Speaker 2: I feel rotted. I feel wrong. But the thing is
Speaker 2: we can. We could go and write and bring that in.
Speaker 2: It's not like the internet has everything on there. We
Speaker 2: can do our research if we really wanted to. We
Speaker 2: just feel weird doing it because it doesn't feel like
Speaker 2: it belongs to us.
Speaker 3: Nigerians have I feel like a lot of closeness to
Speaker 3: Indian culture that have like beautiful, large weddings.
Speaker 2: For sure. I feel like it's very it's similar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a lot of stuff we talk about on Tinted.
Speaker 2: Is this idea of like like nose piercings, Like I
Speaker 2: thought that that was an Indian thing, and then we
Speaker 2: looked back to the and like the whole history of
Speaker 2: it and it went back to like gree Greek roots
Speaker 2: and like Egyptian roots, and I was like, oh wow.
Speaker 2: And so I think literally those type of educational things
Speaker 2: is how it's going to change. But it just takes
Speaker 2: the effort of doing it. Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 3: I must to do my research like somebody else in
Speaker 3: Africa were a Bendee. Oh yeah, no, it's actually a
Speaker 3: Nigerian Cindy.
Speaker 2: But the body art and body painting is does go
Speaker 2: back to that, you know, So it's like it's just
Speaker 2: all about I guess learning. Honestly, I was just saying
Speaker 2: it more to protect you because I know it's a huge.
Speaker 2: Well that's good because I would have never known.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I would have went to the Indians the Hindu
Speaker 3: festival rock in my like, you know, I just really
Speaker 3: didn't know. I just saw something and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: like it. And I've worn them for a long time,
Speaker 3: like years, and no one's ever said, thanks to my friends,
Speaker 3: I haven't an Indian wedding.
Speaker 2: No, oh, you'll come to mind if it ever happened.
Speaker 2: I went to an Indie wedding beautiful, yeah, and I
Speaker 2: was given a sorry. I was like is it? I
Speaker 2: actually felt like, is it okay? If I wear this,
Speaker 2: that's fair it is? And she the bride, she was Indy,
Speaker 2: and she was like, no, I want you to wear it, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: take I have so many here, take your no literally
Speaker 2: my mom has too many closets at them. But yeah,
Speaker 2: like we want you to celebrate the culture, and it's
Speaker 2: really exciting to see other people do that.
Speaker 3: We love doing that, especially because it's like in America,
Speaker 3: it's like, i mean, just in general, we have a
Speaker 3: very white media. Everything's very i mean just now it's turning.
Speaker 3: But like we don't get exposed that much to other
Speaker 3: things unless you go seeking it, you know, until like now,
Speaker 3: but there's things like you know, live tinted and we
Speaker 3: have these conversations and shit, like even I noticed, like
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, like you said earlier, like
Speaker 3: I go to the store for Luna and I look
Speaker 3: at dolls and even in Target, I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to like every time I like social media,
Speaker 3: like what the fuck is that shit? But then I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: I feel unincluded. But imagine Deepica, Imagine my Asian friends,
Speaker 3: imagine you know, I really think that, like damn, we
Speaker 3: need we need to start even further because there's woman
Speaker 3: who look even you know, not white, not black, not tan,
Speaker 3: and we don't even have that exactly, And so I'm
Speaker 3: always I'm always like noticing noticing it, even as a
Speaker 3: kid before like this huge social media make up makeup,
Speaker 3: makeout makeup thing.
Speaker 2: I remember like looking at Chanel.
Speaker 3: It looked like going in Macy's and seeing the cosmetics
Speaker 3: and seeing the range and shade range and thinking, what the.
Speaker 2: Fuck is this? Oh my god, that was my whole child.
Speaker 3: I feel like we could have like successfully, like had
Speaker 3: a lawsuit because for like for a million years, there
Speaker 3: was like this darkest.
Speaker 2: Shade was Erica. Yeah, and she's like white, right, use
Speaker 2: whitish rude.
Speaker 3: Well, it's we're embracing all the color spectrums, but the
Speaker 3: point is you're not the darkest of the spectrum clearly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's totally how I grew up, and that
Speaker 2: was that was really depressing. I wanted to avoid the
Speaker 2: sun because of it. I just wanted to look like
Speaker 2: all the girls that I saw on the magazines.
Speaker 3: Is that a thing in the Indian culture, like whitening
Speaker 3: your in avoiding the sun? Because that's the thing in
Speaker 3: the black culture, Like I don't want to be in
Speaker 3: the sun. I don't need to get more dark, Like it's.
Speaker 2: Black, it's Mexican, it's Hispanic. Yeah, they're all fair and lovely.
Speaker 2: Was a staple. Cream on my mom's counter growing up,
Speaker 2: it was a bleaching cream and it's like a number
Speaker 2: one product in Asia. Have you spoken to her? Have
Speaker 2: you spoke to her about that now? Yeah? Even now?
Speaker 2: I love obviously for like cancer reasons, I don't like
Speaker 2: to do it, but I love the sun like I
Speaker 2: love how it feels. It's like relaxing. I love the
Speaker 2: tan that I get out of it or melanated to people.
Speaker 2: Even the dude we were just talking about that lives here,
Speaker 2: he cannot. He is so not into dark skin Indian girls,
Speaker 2: and he's very vocal about it. He'll be like, well,
Speaker 2: first of all, he's just into Indian but within that,
Speaker 2: it has to be like the Bollywood standard, like super
Speaker 2: fair skin, super tiny, one of those things. And like
Speaker 2: you don't think that do you feel offunded by that?
Speaker 3: Because when a guy tells me something like that a
Speaker 3: black eye, I would be offunded.
Speaker 2: So yes, But so it goes back and forth, it
Speaker 2: goes all people have types, right, but what is the
Speaker 2: idea of like avoiding the sun to look like a
Speaker 2: certain beauty standard? Because it's like, why do you actually
Speaker 2: like that? Is it? And I don't know the answer.
Speaker 2: This is it? Because of what society has said to
Speaker 2: you or is that just really your type? And that's tight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's social. I think we
Speaker 3: don't realize how programmed we are and for that, like
Speaker 3: we're not realizing what we're saying and why. But I
Speaker 3: think it's absolutely we would have grown with like black
Speaker 3: black black black black was the standard of beauty.
Speaker 2: Everybody would be rushing to the tanning salon. No. Cammy
Speaker 2: was telling me the story the other day to you,
Speaker 2: saying how this white girl came out to her and
Speaker 2: she's like, oh my god, I love your hair, Like
Speaker 2: how I would love to make my hair look like that,
Speaker 2: and your skin color is so beautiful and it like
Speaker 2: irks hair. She's a black woman and it like irks her.
Speaker 2: But so I'm curious, like, how would you feel if
Speaker 2: somebody was saying that to you, which.
Speaker 3: I don't like, woman, or I'm like, yeah, I know
Speaker 3: it's bomb right, Yeah, you know, I want to genuinely
Speaker 3: know that because I get it, like I get it,
Speaker 3: like I get like, like I said, like, have interest
Speaker 3: in something that doesn't look like what you have, like
Speaker 3: noticing what's beautiful. I can see a very fair, fair, fair,
Speaker 3: white white white, white woman with fair, fair eyes. My god,
Speaker 3: like your eyes are fucking beautiful. You're beautiful. And I'm
Speaker 3: not going to say I want that hair, but like
Speaker 3: I want your skin. But I can acknowledge, and if
Speaker 3: someone acknowledges me for you know, whatever, they can see
Speaker 3: visually and think it's beautiful, Like, why would I be
Speaker 3: offended by that? But I want you to pet me
Speaker 3: in public? Like, oh right now, if I don't know you,
Speaker 3: please don't pet me.
Speaker 2: I'm not draped dog. But that comes down to people
Speaker 2: touching your stomach when you're pregnant. Yeah, Just I think
Speaker 2: a lot of like the woman who came up to
Speaker 2: her probably was trying to relate to her. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that's where it comes from.
Speaker 2: It's not really like I want to be you like
Speaker 2: or like sometimes it is, but I think it's like
Speaker 2: I think, as women, a lot of times, the way
Speaker 2: we choose to relate is through beauty. It's you're complimenting,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I love your earrings, all your lashes,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Like your skin is so beautiful. That's
Speaker 2: just I don't know. I mean, I know why that
Speaker 2: is is because you know, as women were taught that
Speaker 2: like physicality is like kind of what validates us, you know,
Speaker 2: and so you know that's that's I think. Well you
Speaker 2: speak a smile on the person's face too, right when
Speaker 2: people love, I mean people love, I mean I love
Speaker 2: getting caught. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes I feel awkward, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say, like, if no one ever
Speaker 2: compliment me, complimented me again, I'd be no, yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: be sad, you know. But I died, I got blue contacts,
Speaker 2: dyed my hair blonde. As a kid, I wanted to
Speaker 2: look like Texas. Wow, an awful photo, but yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I wanted to look like
Speaker 2: a contact. I wanted to like the girls that were
Speaker 2: around me. Yeah and me too, I want I wanted
Speaker 2: to straighten my hair all the time. I wanted to
Speaker 2: be skinny. I've always like had athletic build body, and
Speaker 2: I was had a woman's body at like age twelve,
Speaker 2: and all these girls, like their thighs didn't rubbed together,
Speaker 2: and they were wearing these little cranky bees that my
Speaker 2: ass couldn't fit into. And I was just like the
Speaker 2: boys that of all my white school were never hitting
Speaker 2: on me, and so I just felt left out. But
Speaker 2: it's funny now because now it's like it's so interesting
Speaker 2: now it's shifted.
Speaker 3: And I know, do you okay, Like the guy who
Speaker 3: we just talked about, who's like, is boldly stating his preference. Okay,
Speaker 3: would you even though you understand where that route that's
Speaker 3: rooted from, because obviously you're like a brown.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and no, he's basically saying he's not attracted
Speaker 2: to me. So does that? Does that? Like? How do you?
Speaker 2: How do you take that? And like, would you date
Speaker 2: a guy like that?
Speaker 3: Because for me as a black man, if someone guys
Speaker 3: like says comments like that, I assume you're ignorant, and
Speaker 3: then I'm concerned, like what you're gonna teach our kids?
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't we is he gonna? Does he want
Speaker 2: to date you anyway? Because you're clearly not a type anyway,
Speaker 2: I don't care or or this was gonna say, have
Speaker 2: you ever.
Speaker 3: Like I've met men who like, I've never dated a
Speaker 3: black woman, but I'm so attracted to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like surprised.
Speaker 3: I mean, by the way, same thing, but that's not
Speaker 3: that black Indian woman, Like, oh my god, I've never
Speaker 3: been with an Indian girl.
Speaker 2: But I'm not just not like, I don't take that
Speaker 2: as a compliment. I think that you sound really stupid.
Speaker 2: How do you sound spetishized? Yeah? Yeah yeah?
Speaker 3: So like, would you date that guy with knowing his mentality,
Speaker 3: knowing he is may still be attracted to you with
Speaker 3: you're the exception?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? So if I was
Speaker 2: the exception but I knew his mentality in general, was
Speaker 2: that way? My gut is saying yes, because I because
Speaker 2: in my mind, I think the idea of beauty his
Speaker 2: character if if if that kind of character bled through
Speaker 2: to every other part of his life, then the answer
Speaker 2: is no. But if it comes down to like, oh
Speaker 2: I was attracted to this, but I'm actually into you,
Speaker 2: it is kind of like showing the other side of
Speaker 2: it or just make you feel more special. Maybe honestly,
Speaker 2: I bet it is something twisted like that, but it
Speaker 2: makes you feel like a little more like oh the rule.
Speaker 3: But what I feel like, you guys go out and
Speaker 3: you're like are together and then you like go to
Speaker 3: the bet and he's like all these fair skinned Yeah
Speaker 3: yeah you're right, Yeah, you're like dead. This is like
Speaker 3: a therapy session. Suddenly you feel insecure. Yeah, would you
Speaker 3: suddenly feel insecure?
Speaker 2: Probably? That's a good point. The get back, I changed
Speaker 2: my mind. Well, I mean not that you should. We
Speaker 2: shouldn't feel incure. The ironic part about it is I'm
Speaker 2: not attracted to him, right, So then it's and I'm
Speaker 2: and I was just saying this. My whole life, I've
Speaker 2: dated South Asian guys. I've only had two boyfriends, but
Speaker 2: they're both Indian, and now I'm at a point where
Speaker 2: i want to explore outside of that. But it's not
Speaker 2: like I actually I'm just more saying it. For the
Speaker 2: first time in my life, I'm being open minded. I'm
Speaker 2: not it's like tough to say, like screw every Indian
Speaker 2: guy out there, like that's not cool, right, But at
Speaker 2: the same time, it's like I was trained my whole
Speaker 2: life that I was supposed to be in with this
Speaker 2: kind of person that looked like this, and our families
Speaker 2: would be like this, And now I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: like be nice, it doesn't matter, be a kind person. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, and dating outside of your race, I
Speaker 2: know another steria, like what I said in the stereotype
Speaker 2: is that, yeah, dating outside of your race within the
Speaker 2: Indian community is kind of like you don't do it,
Speaker 2: and it's like scary to bring that guy home to
Speaker 2: your parents. Ten years ago, my oldest cousin married an
Speaker 2: Asian guy and it broke up our family. Like my
Speaker 2: dad had seven brothers and most some of them didn't
Speaker 2: show up. It was really rough, and I think just
Speaker 2: she did it. She took one, she took the hit,
Speaker 2: and now we have like four cousins who are marrying
Speaker 2: outside of their race.
Speaker 3: But I think so after that they'd come back together
Speaker 3: once kids were involved, once there was grandkids, everyone was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, at the end of the day, do
Speaker 3: we want our.
Speaker 2: Kids to not get it raised together? It's silly, but
Speaker 2: they were so so stubborn about the fact that like, no,
Speaker 2: this is not okay, so against go goes against our culture,
Speaker 2: and especially her because she was the one that was
Speaker 2: like doing the cultural dances as a kid and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. But since then, it's it's just changed. I
Speaker 2: think it's just progress.
Speaker 3: Yeahs was she was she open to them now embracing
Speaker 3: her kids. I mean like after they didn't show up
Speaker 3: to her wedding because I would be better, Like you
Speaker 3: didn't want.
Speaker 2: To come to wedding, then you want to be around
Speaker 2: my kids. I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: when you have kids, all of it changes. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: you're like better, Like fuck it.
Speaker 3: It is important that like I'm going to look past
Speaker 3: that you did this or whatever, and now we're in
Speaker 3: a different space.
Speaker 2: I mean I've been looking at like Priyanka and Nice like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: so they recently just got married, and I was and
Speaker 2: she's also older woman, and I was thinking about it.
Speaker 2: She's older than him. I think, oh, yeah, late thirties
Speaker 2: or yeah, four. I think there's a decade difference. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she might be like forty. Wow that brown, don't frown.
Speaker 2: She's beautiful. But I was thinking about that too. I mean,
Speaker 2: she's she's much older, so maybe her family is kind
Speaker 2: of just at this point, like and she's and she
Speaker 2: has a successful career. I just wonder why you're rich. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I was just wondering what her family was thinking because
Speaker 2: she is older. You know. I think she has become
Speaker 2: one of those leaders that's paving the way for other people.
Speaker 2: And I think that there are just certain families that
Speaker 2: are more open to that. And I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: very grateful that my parents would be like that. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. Okay, because obviously Nick
Speaker 2: is white. Do you think that acceptance is easier.
Speaker 3: When it's a white guy whereas like if it was
Speaker 3: a black guy or Asian guy or a different guy.
Speaker 2: Because I think sadly, yes, yes, there's a what is it?
Speaker 2: I haven't heard this in so long, but as a kid, no,
Speaker 2: BMW's black Muslim or white? Yeah, or black Mexican. No
Speaker 2: is Muslim Muslim culturally Hindus and Musli back in the
Speaker 2: day obviously, Yeah, so yeah, white, it's not on you know,
Speaker 2: you don't think it's it's less of a big deal,
Speaker 2: whereas if it was a black guy or an Asian
Speaker 2: guy or meat or whatever. But I do think everything
Speaker 2: is changing. But yes, growing up, yes, I wonder what
Speaker 2: that is. I know it's white represents America, so it's
Speaker 2: a little more acceptable. I think that a little bit
Speaker 2: more because especially because in you know, culturally Indians like
Speaker 2: they they I don't know. Yeah, it goes back to
Speaker 2: British British colonizm yisation and then coming here and wanting
Speaker 2: to live this American dream. And sometimes when that comes
Speaker 2: with the white man. Yeah, and also that's how the validation,
Speaker 2: because you were talking about like your father's version of
Speaker 2: what the American dream is is like you know, having
Speaker 2: a certain respect and does that respect within his community
Speaker 2: or respect from American white people.
Speaker 3: I think I think it's the latter. That's how you
Speaker 3: are respected by white people. Well globally like white is right,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like a global white supremacy exists in
Speaker 3: all corners of the earth, you know, and as much
Speaker 3: as it's changing, I think, like just like in the
Speaker 3: Beauty Standard and the media and Disney and all this
Speaker 3: other shit, like it's the same. It goes in all cultures,
Speaker 3: even like Japanese women like they like like think they're
Speaker 3: more beautiful.
Speaker 2: I they're mixed with European just like black and black
Speaker 2: culture like yeah she makes she got the hair, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, like it's just like this weird taboo that
Speaker 3: if you mix with white there's like some people.
Speaker 2: That's why color doesn't exists in every community.
Speaker 3: Exact right, because for sure, the lightest is the fair
Speaker 3: is the most beautiful.
Speaker 2: Even within India, North India versus South India. I'm South Indian,
Speaker 2: we're considered to be less beautiful, less like intelligent because
Speaker 2: North Indian beauty standards are.
Speaker 3: What's considered beautiful because the North North Indian is more
Speaker 3: like likely more fair. I know, such bullshit crazy, but
Speaker 3: you're right, there's there's more. There's more commonalities than there
Speaker 3: are differences. Yeah, and I think that's the cool thing.
Speaker 3: But like nobody's talking about it. And I think it's
Speaker 3: things like this that changes that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even so, like when I grew up, I
Speaker 2: didn't like my big eyes or my big brows because
Speaker 2: that was these are very South Asian South Indian features.
Speaker 2: Now I'm like obsessed with it, and that's just because
Speaker 2: of progress and things are changing. Like I love having
Speaker 2: big furry brows, you know, I love those brows, thank you.
Speaker 2: But it took a long time to embrace them.
Speaker 3: But it's funny how we are so influenced, like our
Speaker 3: perception of ourselves is so heavily influenced by outside factors. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's like it's so stupid because we're the only person.
Speaker 3: We got to live and die in this body alone. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so like why the fuck doesn't matter? But it's true.
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to be accepted, loved, and that all comes
Speaker 2: down to Unfortunately, at an esthetic level the first thing
Speaker 2: people think about. And that's why I think, because I've
Speaker 2: been having so much like I've been having this like
Speaker 2: tug of war with social media lately and like feeling
Speaker 2: like and I know, I know for sure you have,
Speaker 2: which is probably part of the reason I'm assuming why
Speaker 2: you would started tinted, because you can really create content
Speaker 2: that is meaningful and in the world that you started in,
Speaker 2: which is beauty and you know, YouTube tutorial, beauty hacks,
Speaker 2: all that stuff that can start to feel so mundane,
Speaker 2: so shallow, you feel so vain, like me posting, I'm
Speaker 2: like hesitant to even post photos of myself now and
Speaker 2: I really haven't really been posting photos of myself because
Speaker 2: I feel so vain and at part of it was
Speaker 2: part of for my vanity, and I think something's shifting
Speaker 2: within me where I'm just like, I don't like, I
Speaker 2: appreciate people commenting and saying, oh my god, you the
Speaker 2: club pretty, the clip pretty, But then sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 2: that was even my intent with the photo. I wrote
Speaker 2: this beautiful long aption about self love and where I'm
Speaker 2: at or I'm not feeling. I'm feeling like shit today
Speaker 2: and all you saw was just like you're so pretty
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, bitch stopping, like what you don't
Speaker 2: appreciate that, and like no, I do, but it just
Speaker 2: seems so you know, it's tough. It seems so shallow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and all the you know, photoshopping and all that stuff
Speaker 2: that happens. It's like, I don't want to be the
Speaker 2: person promoting that beauty standard. But sometimes when you work
Speaker 2: with brands, that's what they're doing and it's like you're
Speaker 2: the person behind it. That's why I just haven't been
Speaker 2: as much anymore. I'm not I'm not. I don't wake
Speaker 2: up excited about it. I don't feel motivated by it.
Speaker 2: And I feel motivated by Tinted because we're trying to
Speaker 2: change that standard. And like when you write these, like
Speaker 2: you said, like now to me, I want to take
Speaker 2: There's some things I have to do because A it
Speaker 2: pays the bills, and b it creates a relevancy to
Speaker 2: do what I'd care to do, which is Tinted talking
Speaker 2: about my family and my like that your family is
Speaker 2: fucking adorable, but the other thing are so embarrassed of them.
Speaker 2: As a kid, right, Like I didn't want my friends
Speaker 2: to come over my mom would wear a nid and
Speaker 2: like be cooking chicken curry, and I have a very
Speaker 2: distinct memory. I have a girlfriend coming over and coughing
Speaker 2: and literally asking to leave because she couldn't handle the
Speaker 2: smell of the food. And so I was so I
Speaker 2: didn't want people to come over anymore. And I think
Speaker 2: that is I'm not the only one who felt that way.
Speaker 2: So what I can do now to show how incredible
Speaker 2: it is to have parents as hardworking, dedicated to their
Speaker 2: family as I had growing up. And if that can
Speaker 2: change any other person's dynamic, that's what I want to
Speaker 2: do more well, fucking yeah, way more than any selfie,
Speaker 2: you know. But it's a balance. But before you started
Speaker 2: lived Tinted.
Speaker 3: In what ways, like, you know, coming into the beauty
Speaker 3: industry and the social media whole situation, that's you know,
Speaker 3: the beauty industry is not really weird for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how like, in what ways did you feel that
Speaker 2: I for Tinted. I knew I was the token brown
Speaker 2: girl in beauty brand campaigns, Like whenever I was hired,
Speaker 2: it was like I was the Indian girl, and then
Speaker 2: there was a black girl and there's Latino girl. But
Speaker 2: to be honest, it didn't bother me because I was like,
Speaker 2: at least there is a token brown girl now, because
Speaker 2: I was like, this is step one to making it
Speaker 2: so eventually there's a lot of us. So the fact
Speaker 2: that I was even included, that's how I thought about
Speaker 2: it in my brain. But then I got to a
Speaker 2: point where I was like, Wow, there's girls at different
Speaker 2: ends of the spectrum, much darker than me and lighter
Speaker 2: than me that haven't been showcased on these brand campaigns
Speaker 2: either ever specifically darker than me, that like, you don't
Speaker 2: find super melanin filled South Asian women in the media
Speaker 2: at all. And that was that was our first post
Speaker 2: four Tinted. That made me like so excited because it
Speaker 2: was like so cool to find that girl, and it
Speaker 2: was also really sad how hard it was to find
Speaker 2: that girl. That's how I actually started kicking off Tinted.
Speaker 2: I was going to make it a secret and curate
Speaker 2: like a whole Instagram before doing it, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: find that girl and we needed that photo, so I
Speaker 2: just put on my Instagram stories use hashtag lived tinted
Speaker 2: to show us beautiful South Asian women with a lot
Speaker 2: like darker skin tone, and that's how we finally found
Speaker 2: them because I kept.
Speaker 3: Seeing and then you know they're there, Like you're there.
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't have like one hundred thousand followers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're like you know, they're just starting to build their
Speaker 2: start starting to build their you know, following her community. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We live in such a world where like we're we're
Speaker 2: controlled by people's following, Like we don't. We only want
Speaker 2: to work with you if you have this amount of
Speaker 2: people that like you or that are liking your photos.
Speaker 3: I know this even now post effecture and I'm like
Speaker 3: it's so beautiful and I'm like, only got sixteen likes.
Speaker 2: But I know we'd be lying to ourselves if we
Speaker 2: didn't feel I'm a child and I need to grow
Speaker 2: up because it's ridiculous. No, you become a slave to
Speaker 2: like checking and looking and like why did this photo get?
Speaker 2: These are analyzing. You become your own like analytics specialist,
Speaker 2: like why did this photo get? Like I really like
Speaker 2: this photo with that one, but obviously they like this
Speaker 2: one more. So what you try to break it down?
Speaker 2: Like I need to post more content like this so
Speaker 2: that you know what is like this? What does this mean?
Speaker 2: I really believe this, and I feel like we have
Speaker 2: to believe this now. The only like, the only way
Speaker 2: to get it go against that is like doing starting
Speaker 2: this podcast, you guys are doing in posting content that
Speaker 2: matters to you, because otherwise we're all everyone's just going
Speaker 2: to keep doing selfies. It's going to take the same right, same,
Speaker 2: it's the same shirt. If I see one more like
Speaker 2: selfie next to like a white marble wall with like
Speaker 2: a pink light pink sweatshirt and oh my god, like
Speaker 2: kneeling down like with like one you know, the kneel down, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you're praying or some shit.
Speaker 3: I got like really hot, look that all the girls
Speaker 3: are doing that. I'm not good at it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I was saying, like if you if
Speaker 2: I see one more folk girl posing in a certain position,
Speaker 2: perfect color scheme. And don't get me wrong, there are
Speaker 2: instagrams that I follow because I really love how curated. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I like organization. It makes me feel happy when
Speaker 2: I look at it. Yeah, but then sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this picture this is the same one
Speaker 2: that I saw on the last instagram I was on,
Speaker 2: and the last one, the last one of the last
Speaker 2: one is just like that's why I've been so hesitant
Speaker 2: to post. Like it's been like it's actually been nice
Speaker 2: because for a while I was like feeling like I
Speaker 2: have to post, I have to post today. I wantly
Speaker 2: posted once, Yeah I didn't post yesterday, buck like same,
Speaker 2: and it's it becomes overwhelming, and I know longer in
Speaker 2: creating content or posting unless there's a message behind it
Speaker 2: rather than just the photo. So even if people are
Speaker 2: going to say you're so pretty or so pretty, at
Speaker 2: least I know that, like my message behind the photo
Speaker 2: is bigger than the aesthetic aspect. It's tough. I mean,
Speaker 2: let's be real, Like people people do follow me for
Speaker 2: makeup tips for South Asian girls, so like it's you
Speaker 2: also don't want to like go against the reason why
Speaker 2: all these people started following you, you know so, But
Speaker 2: now I'm just like adding in the content that really
Speaker 2: motivates me and gets me excited. In addition to that
Speaker 2: the balance that is beautiful. Do you post? I realize
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, post, I do post a lot. She
Speaker 2: gets the most Well, of course that's what I was
Speaker 2: gonna ask you guys, Like obviously that would get the
Speaker 2: most likes because they're freaking adorable. But are you protective
Speaker 2: or worried in any way that, Like, sometimes I'm more
Speaker 2: worried that I don't want her to become that I
Speaker 2: don't want her to because we're in this world of
Speaker 2: social media and I can only imagine where it's going
Speaker 2: to go, like more and more and more access, access,
Speaker 2: access that I don't want her to feel like she
Speaker 2: has to she has to be that way, or she
Speaker 2: has to be a certain way, or you know. And
Speaker 2: so that's the one thing I don't really I don't
Speaker 2: think anyone's gonna come get my kid or I'm not
Speaker 2: like famous, so I've been bringing out a fat where
Speaker 2: she goes to school. Or maybe if I was, i'd
Speaker 2: have I'd think twice about it. But or just like
Speaker 2: if somebody said like a rude I can't imagine the
Speaker 2: rude comments I've had someone say rud com like, of
Speaker 2: course these people you don't know, right, but actually know
Speaker 2: you had someone who said a rude comment to someone recently?
Speaker 2: Oh actually, yeah, I had someone who I used to
Speaker 2: be friends with and what was it.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, she was basically judging your parenting and like
Speaker 3: putting it on your mommy shaming and of course the
Speaker 3: person is not a kid.
Speaker 2: I my, oh my god, so stupid.
Speaker 3: My client has a ship for pull in her living room,
Speaker 3: and of course, like it's fun everybody wants to try it,
Speaker 3: including Luna.
Speaker 2: And it looks like, oh, that's so funny. It looks
Speaker 2: like a playground.
Speaker 3: There's actually pulls at the playground, if anyone would take
Speaker 3: fucking notice. And of course she wasn't wearing clear heels
Speaker 3: in a bikini. I didn't put her in that off
Speaker 3: for that day, but it was on Instagram, and it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're teaching her to tour.
Speaker 2: You're teaching her like I like.
Speaker 3: I hope that, like I pray that she doesn't come
Speaker 3: out a certain way because you know, you're putting her
Speaker 3: Instagram a certain way. And you know what I had
Speaker 3: to do. These are people I've known a long time.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is the mom. Okay, the mom
Speaker 3: I'm friends with the girl, we used to be friends,
Speaker 3: but I'm also friends with her mom. And the mom
Speaker 3: made a comment. But the girl was actually a career stripper,
Speaker 3: so I don't think she Maybe she was projecting on
Speaker 3: me because her daughter actually became a stripper. But my
Speaker 3: daughter's three, and she has no concept of stripping or
Speaker 3: the like the club, and I just thought, like, I
Speaker 3: don't like, I hate and I think this happens a
Speaker 3: lot like when adults project like innocent, like project their
Speaker 3: adulthood on innocent children that have no no scope of
Speaker 3: these things. And it's just like, don't sexualize my child, right,
Speaker 3: there's nothing sexual about this situation. She's three, she has
Speaker 3: no idea what that means, and I don't like the
Speaker 3: projection of it and my whole there's pervs out there,
Speaker 3: and one thing I'm being on I don't live my
Speaker 3: life in fear of other people, of just general big fear,
Speaker 3: like obviously I'm precautious, but pers are at the park,
Speaker 3: you know, pers are at the mall.
Speaker 2: Pers are probably at your family reunion.
Speaker 3: So I can't, like, I'm not like covering her face
Speaker 3: or every little thing on Instagram because that's like I
Speaker 3: don't think and I'm not thinking my life based on
Speaker 3: pers You can't.
Speaker 2: That's exhausting. It's exhausting.
Speaker 3: It's perfs everywhere you know, you never know who those
Speaker 3: people are, but I have to, like I blocked all
Speaker 3: those people because it's just like I was getting rouled
Speaker 3: up about it, but I realized I'm super free spirited,
Speaker 3: I'm super hippie, I'm super naked, I'm super comfortable with
Speaker 3: my body. And it's not an attention thing, it's not
Speaker 3: a sexual thing. It's just who the fuck I am.
Speaker 3: And my daughter is going to know that. She's going
Speaker 3: to know me best more than anyone else. And if
Speaker 3: you don't know me, then you don't get to comment
Speaker 3: on my parenting or me. And if you don't have
Speaker 3: like positive like.
Speaker 2: I don't think there could be any more hurtful thing
Speaker 2: than somebody targeting your parents. Oh no, there's not. There's
Speaker 2: no crushcause it's like this person knows you, So call
Speaker 2: me and talk to me. Yeah, don't don't put it
Speaker 2: on social media for other people to judge and then
Speaker 2: wonder that what you're talking about and then they're looking
Speaker 2: at you like maybe she is that way. I mean
Speaker 2: she is naked all the time, like she does you know,
Speaker 2: you just start, well, when is she teaching her child
Speaker 2: to love her fucking body? You know?
Speaker 3: And so I mean, don't it's going for someone's jugular
Speaker 3: when you comment to my parents, sa ay, you're coming
Speaker 3: at me, And like if you're a friend or out
Speaker 3: of love, you're gonna be like, look, girl, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: call you because I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: What do you feel about this? Whatever, there's a way you.
Speaker 3: Like you you come at someone, but if it's not positive,
Speaker 3: it's not happy. I had to, like, I had to
Speaker 3: make the conscious decision I'm not gonna get mad. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna give the energy. I'm gonna cut you off
Speaker 3: because I'm not going to give you answers because it's
Speaker 3: my child and it's my and I know I'm raising
Speaker 3: her right and I know I'm raising her in a
Speaker 3: safe space. So I mean, you know, it's inevitable that
Speaker 3: our kids, that's our prize possession.
Speaker 2: We're gonna fucking take pictures with them, We're going to
Speaker 2: post it. They're great.
Speaker 3: But like people are gonna have opinions about everything, your outfit,
Speaker 3: how you raise your kids, everything, So like you have
Speaker 3: to either be comfortable in who you are and what
Speaker 3: you are and what you're projecting and or or not.
Speaker 3: And because I'm comfortable in and it and I know
Speaker 3: I'm doing the right thing, and I don't tolerate it,
Speaker 3: you know, so fuck makes sense.
Speaker 2: But for me, I haven't I haven't really the only
Speaker 2: time I've ever seen anyone leave a bad comment and
Speaker 2: has been on her father's page, and that's because he
Speaker 2: has a lot more followers than I do about it,
Speaker 2: and you know, just people just bored talking shit. But
Speaker 2: it enrages me. It totally enrages me because it's like
Speaker 2: she's an innocent child, right, like she doesn't it can't
Speaker 2: even defend yourself. But I mean, that's the world we
Speaker 2: live in. I'm sure you get crazy comments on your stuff.
Speaker 2: It never bothers me if they say anything about me physically,
Speaker 2: like whatever, oh you're not pretty or that something like that.
Speaker 2: Like that doesn't bother me. I have a self confidence
Speaker 2: in like my appearance and stuff. It bothers me when
Speaker 2: they attack like my work ethic, Like she only posts
Speaker 2: like one YouTube video week, nobody has any idea what's
Speaker 2: happening behind the scenes for live hinted and like that.
Speaker 2: It irks me to set somebody to say, there's this
Speaker 2: I don't even want to give it. Maybe we'll cut
Speaker 2: this part out, but there's this Reddit threat about me
Speaker 2: that was like what do you think about deep with Yalla?
Speaker 2: And I got like I got like a Google alert
Speaker 2: about it, and it was just going in about like
Speaker 2: my privilege and I the thing is, like, I'm very
Speaker 2: aware of the privileges I have in like I did
Speaker 2: not grow up poor, but I also didn't grow up
Speaker 2: to be this super super rich like, so I know
Speaker 2: where I fall in my privileges, and I'm very self aware.
Speaker 2: I think that's one thing about all of us that
Speaker 2: we're very self aware people.
Speaker 3: And I know what I have and I don't have
Speaker 3: and things like that. But I also worked really hard
Speaker 3: for like so much of this that like, don't take
Speaker 3: it away from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also a lot of it was brown people,
Speaker 2: and it's like I would think that they would want
Speaker 2: to help support me the most, to help me keep
Speaker 2: going and keep fighting. And to read that crushed me
Speaker 2: because I was like, you have no idea how hard
Speaker 2: I'm working. And you know, of course there's parts like
Speaker 2: brand trips and things like that that are lavish, lavish,
Speaker 2: but nobody I'm editing at three in the morning and
Speaker 2: like not sleeping at night because I'm thinking about things
Speaker 2: that I need to still get done and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to like pitch investors and like things like that. Is
Speaker 2: like nobody has any idea. But anyways, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, that's an insecurity in me that I
Speaker 2: have to get over not care because I know what
Speaker 2: I'm doing. We're all we all have some degree of insecurity,
Speaker 2: and you know what. I like, I told Erica.
Speaker 3: Because we had like one thread one time too, and yeah,
Speaker 3: if we don't, you know, you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: If you don't have no haters, so you know, brush
Speaker 2: and brush them off. Yeah. Yeah, we had a threat
Speaker 2: about our parenting. I was like what, And then I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, let me come down. We're famous because
Speaker 2: I know I'm a good parent. Yeah, and it's like,
Speaker 2: you don't even know you're not here yeah, like, and
Speaker 2: you're probably not even a parent. So my kid's fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: And he listened to all of our episodes, Like this
Speaker 2: person was listening to all like commented on episode four
Speaker 2: and that episode seven. I like, so you listened to
Speaker 2: all my episodes and then you went on a blogged
Speaker 2: into a website to then talk about It's just insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It just makes me feel really really special. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm really grateful to be able to have this
Speaker 3: time with you and talk to you this is so good.
Speaker 3: It was really good. I feel therapy. There's those like therapy, podcasting, therapeutic.
Speaker 2: Girl. Yeah, we're like, we're smart, we're women. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: thinking about what we're saying. You just need to get
Speaker 2: the conversations out and just say them out loud. I
Speaker 2: think conversations do you have with yourself that maybe you
Speaker 2: don't you forget to have with friends or you know,
Speaker 2: you just don't totally. And so thank you, Yeah, thanks
Speaker 2: for having me, for joining us, for educating me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: educating Tamila and me too. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know the history of Bendie's and all that either,
Speaker 2: So I'll definitely I'm not that I wear them, but
Speaker 2: I'll definitely think twice before I see one at the stoor.
Speaker 2: Stick it on the board. But anyway, you can find
Speaker 2: Deepica at I care about Tinted at Tinted Yeah, say
Speaker 2: them off, I know, and then it's my name at Deepaka.
Speaker 2: But you should follow Tinted. Honestly, I think a lot
Speaker 2: of our followers are brown, yeah, black, and we do
Speaker 2: have like some Caucasian followers. Hey, Nellie whatever, girl. And
Speaker 2: but that's the point, no discriminating nostill tell you yeah,
Speaker 2: and her her pages all awesome highlights, amazing, amazing women.
Speaker 2: I'm not just saying that because I was on bomb.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we will catch you guys next time.
Speaker 3: Enjoy your week, and we have an event on December twelfth.
Speaker 3: We're having cocktails. You should come to where Century City?
Speaker 2: Oh bitch, what it's in? Culver City? Okay, Culver City.
Speaker 2: You know Century City is like a mall. I'm a
Speaker 2: vale bra. I don't they have the same thing to
Speaker 2: It's corner door Culver City. Check out our Instagram. Actually,
Speaker 2: check out the our bio because the link to our
Speaker 2: event right is in there. So come hang out. We
Speaker 2: have a special drink, good mom's drink, so cocktail, call
Speaker 2: the cocktail. It's a good Monse cocktail. Sorry, good Monse cocktail.
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be tequila based because that's what
Speaker 2: we drink. Anyway, we'll catch you next time, and bye bye.
Speaker 1: You got to.
Speaker 2: Go down. Just the tri says to love, the mine.
Speaker 1: Sends to leave you, man, So you decide it's true.
Speaker 1: Never gain anything.