WEBVTT - Ep. 157: Bottle to Throttle

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going? Guys? All right? Everybody joined Reno, we

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<v Speaker 1>are we ain't at the Purple pair. It has there

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<v Speaker 1>been been to the purple parrot, ben Uh, Ben O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought the smoke ribs. They got a guy back

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<v Speaker 1>there in the pack of camel lights smoke ribs. It

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<v Speaker 1>had a taste of like nicotine to it, which I enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just a bit of Ductor's real quick start down

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<v Speaker 1>at the Eagle Honest producer of Meat Eater, Thanky Remy Warren.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the guy they picked up off Virginia Street this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Ben O'Brien, the host of Hunty Collected podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Great Thornton, President CEO of the Wild Chief Foundation, on

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<v Speaker 1>a work released program from sold Out in Prison, Ryan Callahan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the director of Conservation and meat eater. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, a long time ago on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about getting a gun pulled on me in

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada and a lot and I meant to tell the story,

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<v Speaker 1>but never told the story. And then I just started

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<v Speaker 1>saving because I thought I'd tell it here because this

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<v Speaker 1>is uh. I had a gun kind of pulled on me,

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<v Speaker 1>but never like really pulled on me until the very

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<v Speaker 1>first time I came to your state. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a magazine article about a guy who goes by

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<v Speaker 1>the name He's a denim detective. And this guy goes

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<v Speaker 1>down into old mine shafts and mining towns and looks

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<v Speaker 1>for old clothing, uh. And he sells vintage clothing, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like jeans that have to buckle back, like

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<v Speaker 1>the old style from there will be blow out the

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<v Speaker 1>movie and stuff. He sells these the film designers and

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<v Speaker 1>clothing designers. And I was doing his profile piece on

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, and shortly before I went out with him,

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<v Speaker 1>someone had been to a mining town here in Nevada

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<v Speaker 1>and found a pair of Levi's that he sold to

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<v Speaker 1>Levi Strauss for what was it, a forty six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>two bucks Because leave like Levi's when when San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>burnt down, Levi's lost their library. So Levi's has closed.

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<v Speaker 1>They know they made but they have no examples of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And when someone can find an example of a missing

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<v Speaker 1>thing from their library, they'll pay a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So we're out doing this looking for all

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<v Speaker 1>these clothes, and we wind up where some guys had

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<v Speaker 1>to were working these small claims, and we get to

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's place. He's got like a trailer he's living in.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got some dogs. There's a truck park there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a little dinky trailer. I mean, the trailer

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<v Speaker 1>is not for me, the honest long. So I go

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<v Speaker 1>out and bang on the door because we're gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>me if we could have a gander around, and no

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<v Speaker 1>one answers the door. Some of a couple of idiots

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<v Speaker 1>were just standing around in his yard, and pretty soon

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<v Speaker 1>this door comes open like like hard, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>he and my piece I talked about. This guy had

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<v Speaker 1>a voice like to make it like John Wayne shipped

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<v Speaker 1>his pants. You know, it's like bamn. It comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and just levels of shotgun at us. It turns out

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<v Speaker 1>and he's yelling at us, and I can tell when

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<v Speaker 1>he's yelling at he's deaf, so the whole time we're

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<v Speaker 1>banging on his door, he didn't know it. Also looks

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<v Speaker 1>out the window and a couple of hosiers standing out

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<v Speaker 1>in his yard and like detains us at gunpoint, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're just trying to scream real lit like whatever. Come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually get the car and drive and we drove two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't here what time we want to do. Drove

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<v Speaker 1>two hours. Remember ordering a vodka tonic man, and two

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<v Speaker 1>hours later I reached out in my hand was still

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<v Speaker 1>shaking so much. I could barely grab that barely grab

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<v Speaker 1>that trink. So whenever I think about this place, I

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<v Speaker 1>think about getting the gun pulled. Yeah, my uncle tells

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<v Speaker 1>that story a lot different. Steve. He's like, there's these

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<v Speaker 1>two guys trying to steal my pants from the trail.

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<v Speaker 1>We are just to return to that, to return to that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to dwell on it. But the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>clothing eye of my fie with this guy. It was

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<v Speaker 1>in this old cabin and someone had they had moved

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<v Speaker 1>a woodstoves because there's like two chimneys in this old

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<v Speaker 1>cabin and someone had to plug up one of the

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<v Speaker 1>stove pipes. Had shoved a pair of blue jeans watted

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<v Speaker 1>up into a stove pipe, and these are J. C. Panty,

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<v Speaker 1>old J C. Penny blue jeans. And you picture, like

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<v Speaker 1>with a cylinder, how much sun actually makes it down,

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<v Speaker 1>Like in the course of the day, how often sun

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<v Speaker 1>like shoots down a cylinder. The part of those pants

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<v Speaker 1>that was up was bleached pure white. The rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the pants were still dark. And when you opened the

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<v Speaker 1>pants up, it was like a tidy shirt with that

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<v Speaker 1>one bleach partners, a really old pair of J. C.

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<v Speaker 1>Penny stuffed into a stove pipe. Uh, graty bear with

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<v Speaker 1>us comfortable. Okay, we gotta run through a little like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thing we do like to do where I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta run through some listener notes and feedback and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're gonna we're gonna have you lay and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have you set the scene for sheep show, cheap show. Um, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked not long. A guy wrote and he had

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting word that I wanted to share. Where often

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<v Speaker 1>times when we're talking about like ethical issues like who

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<v Speaker 1>who all in here? Familiar with Jack O'Connor, the outdoor

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<v Speaker 1>writer Jack O'Connor. Yeah, we call Yanni. Yanni's thirteenth nickname

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<v Speaker 1>is Yanni O'Connor because Yanni likes the writings of Jack O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you read Jack O'Connor's sheep hunting stories, they

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<v Speaker 1>tended to kind of get up on a group of

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<v Speaker 1>sheep and everybody's just starts to shooting, and uh, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like lo and behold we got six, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after a hundred rounds are fired. And when we're talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, I'm always trying to like present that at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, right, I Am like, well, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, what was normal. And Jack O'Connor was actually

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<v Speaker 1>probably like sort of a progressive minded person for his

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<v Speaker 1>his time. And we spent a lot time explaining like

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<v Speaker 1>what things that used to happen and how we look

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<v Speaker 1>at it now and it seems like not a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the time maybe was. And this guy rode

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<v Speaker 1>into propose that we start using the word present is um,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning applying today's moral standards to bygone times. So from

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<v Speaker 1>now on, when someone does that, I'm gonna accuse them

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<v Speaker 1>of present m um. We got had a big talk

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<v Speaker 1>reason had a past episode about party hunting in some station,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of party hunt. One dude has a tag,

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<v Speaker 1>but other dudes can hunt the tag. And that led

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about partying and uh, A pilot rode in

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like, you know, I appreciate you guys take

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<v Speaker 1>so much time to talk about gun safety in the

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<v Speaker 1>In the aviation world, in my circle, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>rule of thumb called twelve hour bottle to throttle rule,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning you do not touch the throttle. If you had

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<v Speaker 1>touched the bottle in the last twelve hours, this would

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<v Speaker 1>make it impossible for Ronnie Beam to hunt. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's an interesting thing. I also shared a story

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<v Speaker 1>that long ago we were talking about on the subject

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<v Speaker 1>gun safety, that like when you check a rifle, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>emptier full, you kind of like gander up in there,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'll saying, I like I was fingering my rifle, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put my pinky in there. So we got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys right and in about fingering your rifle.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy was right said this apposude was buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>His buddy gets himself a Marlin Lever action and he's

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<v Speaker 1>watched TV fingering his rifle, gets his pinky stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>the loading ram where he cannot get it out. He's

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<v Speaker 1>trying with one hand to see if he can somehow

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<v Speaker 1>dissemble the rifle and eventually realized that he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the emergency room to extract his pinky.

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<v Speaker 1>But he needs now he needs to walk into the

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<v Speaker 1>emergency room with a rifle. So this dude calls the

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's department to say, I'm about to call the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd like you to know that I'm coming in armed.

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<v Speaker 1>So he gets down there and they send it off.

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<v Speaker 1>They send a sheriff's officer to meet the guy at

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, and the nurses prying him about is he's suicidal,

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<v Speaker 1>and another person is asking him, um, if his gun

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<v Speaker 1>is loaded, and they eventually get some lube poured down.

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<v Speaker 1>They get some lube poured down the muzzle and he

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<v Speaker 1>gets his finger free and he's This guy remarks that

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<v Speaker 1>it was odd that his friend then went and traded

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<v Speaker 1>that rifle in. Uh quickly, I gotta touch on two.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about to Molly's not long ago, and people

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<v Speaker 1>were really dismayed by our lack of understanding of to

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<v Speaker 1>Molly's and Tommy making process. It's to Molly's, like are

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<v Speaker 1>you enough where? Like is it regional? Oh? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>make Tomali's all the time. You grew up eating Tamali's. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>see like being northern tier dudes, how can we be

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<v Speaker 1>expected to know about is there a Tomali line? Like

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<v Speaker 1>where the Tomali's start? And stop the tradition because I

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<v Speaker 1>was above it wherever it was. I think your corn

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<v Speaker 1>comes down here for the Tamali's, but the Tomalies never

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<v Speaker 1>go back. You don't send you guys, don't send Tomali's. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are like dismayed how little we

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<v Speaker 1>knew about tomal He's. And and a guy wrote didn't say.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a process nix. Do you know this word nix

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<v Speaker 1>to malization. I'm pronouncing it wrong. I'm sure nix tomalization,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the process of soaking corn or any other

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<v Speaker 1>grain in an alkaline solution. They used to use it

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<v Speaker 1>the lye in wood ash to make an alkaline solution

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<v Speaker 1>that you would soak corn in. And this is what

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<v Speaker 1>gives you the the what's the word I'm looking for here?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know this, remy big tom Molly guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't make my own mesa though, you know not like masa, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why it's the pro because we didn't we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know this that every rolled into correct, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want to share it the correction. It's the process and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get homily and you grind that and that

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<v Speaker 1>gives you the masa or corn flower. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys rolled in about the best all. Everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>their own best way to reheat it to Molly. One

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<v Speaker 1>guy said he was an oil guy in Texas rolled

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<v Speaker 1>in that he started working on a crew that was

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<v Speaker 1>all guys from Mexico and they taught him to heat

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<v Speaker 1>up bacon grease and char that to Molly in a

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<v Speaker 1>pan until the husk is blackened. And that is the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to reheat it to Molly. In his estimation,

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling it. Other guys like I put him in

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<v Speaker 1>my microwave. Once the Tomali is hot, it's a hot

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<v Speaker 1>to Molly. Like that's that's the goal. You get hot

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<v Speaker 1>to Molly and you eat it tomally. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>how it got hot. You can use that little hot

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<v Speaker 1>pocket sleeve, you know, but then put it in there

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<v Speaker 1>and put in the microware. But you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>crispy to Molly, you want to like a hot, non

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<v Speaker 1>saggy tomor. We had a conversation now long ago about

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<v Speaker 1>cheese kurds. But you guys don't eat down here, not

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<v Speaker 1>very often, okay. And in the North a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fellas eat cheese kurds, and what people call cheese kurds

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<v Speaker 1>is squeaky cheese. And it's like, when it's good, if

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<v Speaker 1>a discerning Wisconsinite, we'll bite a cheese curd and get

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<v Speaker 1>a good squeak. It squeaks on your teeth. If it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't squeak, that's a sign that that cheese kurd has

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<v Speaker 1>been sitting too long. And a buddy of mine was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that to to re squeak a cheese kurd, he

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<v Speaker 1>likes to put it in his on his dashboard to

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<v Speaker 1>soak up the sun and somehow this will re squeak

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<v Speaker 1>a cheese kurd. Another buddy of mine from Wisconsin was

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<v Speaker 1>very incredulous of this, and he's like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that was a guy from Wisconsin, because no guy from

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin would let a cheese kurt sit so long that

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<v Speaker 1>it lost squeak in the first place. The last quick

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<v Speaker 1>uh list of feedback, I think we had a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about what is it about when you're eating the apple

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods that you want to huck the apple

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<v Speaker 1>court even though you're leaving. You're not gonna stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't eat an apple and go like this, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you are, it's better if the apple core

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<v Speaker 1>was somewhere else. Um, And I was wondering why that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, because we're all sitting there, we all eat

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<v Speaker 1>apples and we go, and if you were over there,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd throw it so that it was here when you left.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a guy wrote in he's got a spot

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<v Speaker 1>where he hunts. This is another guy in Wisconsin and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a shooting lane. It's his favorite shooting lane,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got his second favorite shooting lane. And he

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<v Speaker 1>points out that he likes to throw his core into

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<v Speaker 1>his second favorite shoot lane because he's not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>the smell of human would impact anything. So he says,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it'll help the second lane, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>it won't ruin the first lane. So he's like a

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<v Speaker 1>targeted core thrower. With all that said, great, he tells

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<v Speaker 1>about sheep show, like how many how told people? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna I think a better segue would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a Tomali story. You got one, of course. So November,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down in Sonora, Mexico. We're gonna do a sheep release.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna release twenty one desert big horn sheep from

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<v Speaker 1>a from a high fenced area into a complete free

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<v Speaker 1>range hundred thousand acres of free range. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mayby you'd know this. I mean, or Tomali is usually

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<v Speaker 1>something that you would find, something that could crack a

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<v Speaker 1>tooth in he should not. So here, I am minding

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<v Speaker 1>my own business on the back of a truck up

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<v Speaker 1>two Mexican friends up front. We're driving along. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>would you like a desert big horn sheep Tomali? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty special. So I get this desert big horn

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<v Speaker 1>sheep to Molly, and I'm munching away on the tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and pretty soon that sound must be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of bone. It's a olive pit. And olive pit an

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<v Speaker 1>olive pit in my Tomali long and short of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, well, let's fine. I put the pit away.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty soon I realized I just cracked my ba and

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<v Speaker 1>I've swallowed it. So I'm messing around on this and

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<v Speaker 1>finally my Coregen got back into something wrong. Go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I cracked my molar on this tomorrow. Oh green olive pit,

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling me, so now I've got I've got three

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<v Speaker 1>or four days in Sonora with a cracked tooth. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the hospitalities of the Mexican is just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of second to none. So we have a nice dinner

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<v Speaker 1>that night, we eat steaks, go to sleep, get up

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<v Speaker 1>the next morning and it breakfast. They had brought me

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<v Speaker 1>a crown that they had found out underneath the table

0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:08.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody's tooth. They said, Gray, we found your tooth. I said, no, no, no,

0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I swallowed my tooth. No, no no, this is your tooth.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that's my Tomali story. But it wasn't your tooth.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't my tooth. So there are ways of fellow

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<v Speaker 1>could go. The followed, but they followed you off into

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<v Speaker 1>the bushes the tooth back into the sheep she So well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about the desert. Big Born Sheep, which is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the four North Americans. For Cheap is what

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<v Speaker 1>we concentrate here with the Wild Cheap Foundation, least in

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<v Speaker 1>North America, but we do work all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're here at the Sheep Show. It was our

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<v Speaker 1>forty second Sheep Foundation Convention. We we call Reno our

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<v Speaker 1>second home. We've been here thirty six some odd times.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have about ten thousand people coming through the door

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<v Speaker 1>over the next three days. You all are a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Um what this is our celebration of the hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>our celebration of conservation, our celebration of the restoration of

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<v Speaker 1>of wild sheep, certainly in North America but now worldwide.

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<v Speaker 1>UM bighorn sheep back in the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 1>worth their all time low about twenty five thousand bighorn

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<v Speaker 1>sheep and then included desert in North America. Through the

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<v Speaker 1>efforts of people that are out there in this audience,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sheep Foundation, our partners in the agencies UH and

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<v Speaker 1>then our chapters and affiliates, we've increased those numbers threefold,

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand bighorn sheep in North America. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic conservation success. The Wild Chief Foundation's purposes to put

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<v Speaker 1>and keep wild sheep on the mountain. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. We do it by raising money and having

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<v Speaker 1>a damn good time. I mean, what what other show

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<v Speaker 1>can you come and listen to Steve Ronnella podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>then go right outside and get a tattoo of either

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<v Speaker 1>a skull or we've got some petroglyph art or even

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<v Speaker 1>a you. So it's just just a great time, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And you can win a sheep hunt. You can win

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<v Speaker 1>a sheep hunt right here. Tomorrow we'll have the less

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<v Speaker 1>than one Club reception. Callahan won the lesson one club.

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<v Speaker 1>He sure did. He won the lesson one eye club

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<v Speaker 1>for international. There's two people sitting up here that have

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<v Speaker 1>won sheep hunts from this organization. Who's the other one?

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<v Speaker 1>May Well? Actually, I'm going for my third win this year,

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<v Speaker 1>so watch out. Yeah, Ben said he you could win

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<v Speaker 1>a sheep show. Is going into the bathroom to take

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<v Speaker 1>a leak? Here sheep hunt anywhere in this building. I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling you right now. There was a guy two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago that had gone to his room to take

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<v Speaker 1>a leak, and he's watching the live stream and we

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<v Speaker 1>drew his name, and you have to be present to win.

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<v Speaker 1>No sucks to be that guy, really, So he ran down,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was too late. He came down and he

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<v Speaker 1>goes we drew again, I said, didn't one? Oh this

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>guy we drew again and he goes, Damn, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a bad move. I go, wolf, that was a bad move.

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<v Speaker 1>So why do you go to his room take a leak?

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<v Speaker 1>He's got like shy bladder, I think so. Um fun

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<v Speaker 1>quick fact for everybody, big guy running around here, Ryan Thompson. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he and I met on one of my first guiding gigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh gotten white water and fly fishing outside Glacier National

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<v Speaker 1>Park and he just welcome to do baby into the

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<v Speaker 1>world and uh maybe thanks to everybody here tonight, that

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<v Speaker 1>baby will live in the world that has more sheep

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<v Speaker 1>than uh us, than conception than we have. Uh anything

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<v Speaker 1>else you want to throw in? What about? What do people?

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<v Speaker 1>Any else? People? You know? We've got you going banquet's

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<v Speaker 1>that we kicked off last night Wednesday night grand opening.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a Conservation Night banquet tonight over at the

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<v Speaker 1>pepper Mill. Uh ramble wards tomorrow morning at the pepper

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<v Speaker 1>Mill and a Ladies ram Awards ram Awards, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have a Ladies lunch that will be here in the

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Rose Ballroom. Our Legacy Night, Ben You're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to that, Yeah, I'll be there. You'll be a server.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a Legacy Night banquet Steve and then our

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<v Speaker 1>grand finale Saturday night after a life member breakfast on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning. So um, last year we directed five point

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollars into wild sheep restoration, conservation and advocacy

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<v Speaker 1>and we do it from what we raise here. So

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty impressive deal. Can you can? You guys real quick? Like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>less than one is less than obvious? Keeps playing what

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<v Speaker 1>that means? You have less than one sheep? You hunted?

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<v Speaker 1>You hunted zero sheep? So it's kind of funny. You have.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a guy named Justin Phillips was sitting there with

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<v Speaker 1>some friends and I think they had a few cocktails

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<v Speaker 1>in them, and we had just finished up one of

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<v Speaker 1>our banquets is late night, and they're lamenting on the

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<v Speaker 1>fact they're young guys and gals, and they thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got all these programs of one more for four

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<v Speaker 1>because you needed just one more sheep to get your four.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, what about the folks like us that

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<v Speaker 1>have less than one sheep? That makes sense? You know

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't hunted a sheep yet, or hadn't at least

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<v Speaker 1>taken a sheep. So he came to me and he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what about a less than one club that I like

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<v Speaker 1>it great graphic designers, So he came up a real

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<v Speaker 1>cool logo, Steve. That was our greatest ever membership program

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<v Speaker 1>because the idea was, you joined that less than one

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<v Speaker 1>club for bucks, you need to be a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Wild Sheep Foundation, and we'll put you into drawing

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<v Speaker 1>for some free sheep months and get you kicked out

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<v Speaker 1>of the club. So some of us then when we

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<v Speaker 1>got our first ram, we'd put red uh tape over

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<v Speaker 1>our less than one Club shirt and the big deal

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<v Speaker 1>was you got to get kicked out. So now we

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the only club that you join and want to

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<v Speaker 1>be kicked out of. Yeah, so that's the less one

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<v Speaker 1>one club. We will be in here tomorrow in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have probably about people in here. Um you see

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<v Speaker 1>the beer trucks on the side. Last year, twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>kegs in two hours. No s really. So, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I said this from the podium last night,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Wild Sheep Foundations, you know, great conservation organization,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're basically a drinking club with sheep hunting problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was cal it was last year that

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<v Speaker 1>you and your buddy, yes, yeah. So I actually right

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, kind of the eleventh hour, I signed

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<v Speaker 1>up everybody, uh that I came down here with that

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<v Speaker 1>first light and got everybody signed up paid. We all

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<v Speaker 1>came in here, uh obviously not expecting to win anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get a T shirt and you get uh

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<v Speaker 1>mug for unlimbided to refills and so it's a good

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>time and it's kind of fun. It's really an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>thing to win in this situation because everybody is ecstatic

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<v Speaker 1>for you, and uh I would I wouldn't be Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like sulking in the corner. Randy Newberg's like, cow,

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<v Speaker 1>when I win this thing, you're gonna come help me

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<v Speaker 1>pack this sheep out. I'm getting a little old. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I man have no problem. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like Ryan Callahan, huh so, and uh yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>highly highly encourage folks to come in. It's twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>bucks and um it's a really fun crowd. If nothing else, Yeah, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>And you can get our membership booth right over there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can sign up the less than One club, get

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<v Speaker 1>a cool T shirt and that's another twenty bucks. For

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<v Speaker 1>the beer reception, you get a nice yettie mug and

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<v Speaker 1>uh bottomless mug. So I have a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can break that twenty five kegs and

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<v Speaker 1>two hour record with a crowd that we're expecting. I

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>think we can. You can get there. I want to

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>jump into taxidermy, freezers and sheep nuts. We'll start with

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>tax dermy. This is a good question. That's what I

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>had thought of when I A guy wrote in it,

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm stuttering over myself. There's the thing that I think

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<v Speaker 1>about when I'm at my mom's house because my mom

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<v Speaker 1>still has my late father's taxidermy hanging around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wonder, um, you know, bless my mother. She's

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<v Speaker 1>still in the house I grew up in. But just someday,

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, someday, right, this tax dermy, Um, if if

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>things go away they seem to go with human beings, Um,

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>this tax dermy will need to go somewhere and find

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<v Speaker 1>a home. And I've been thinking about this lately, and

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<v Speaker 1>two guys have written in with different versions of the

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>same thing. One was a guy that said, nearby me,

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing in a state sale and it went to

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<v Speaker 1>the estate sale and there's a lot of tax durmy

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>for sale. He's like, why do I feel like such

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>a loser to buy another man's taxidermy. He's like, is

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it okay to have another man's taxidermy in your home?

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question for me because my wife talks

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>about how mad I get even to have another man's

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>meat in the home, meaning like like freezer right, we're

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna understand that in my uh, Like, I don't like

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like if I come home and I realized that someone

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<v Speaker 1>where my my mother in law is a town and

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>someone like bought a chicken and I look at it

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like stormy, I get irritated. So for me to be

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<v Speaker 1>like like, for me, no if it was a body

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of mine or something, but I couldn't, Yeah, I couldn't

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>have another man's tax durmy hanging in my house. And

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<v Speaker 1>part two and I'd be curious to here everybody's perspective

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>on this Part two is a guy wrote in about

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<v Speaker 1>the dad question, and this guy has his his dad's

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>got all his tax dur me. He doesn't want the

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 1>tax durmy. He's like, how should I dispose of it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sell it because then it could

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<v Speaker 1>be some other guy with my old man's tax durmy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's thinking about making a funeral pyre and burning

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the old man's tax durmy rather than it falling into

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<v Speaker 1>someone else's hands. Any guidance that these two that you

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>guys can share with these two individuals. There's a thing

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>in the in the art world, or in like maybe

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the hipster art world, where you go to and antique

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>shop and there's just an old taxidermy with a price

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>tag on it and say, like thousand dollars, two thousand dollars, Yes,

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody's old buck mounth. That looks terrible, and the worst

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the more terrible it is, the more expensive it is.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's very much a reality. I live in Austin, Texas.

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>You can go downtown and get a two thousand dollar

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>dear mount if you'd like to. That's not yours because

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>but with that and that world, it's like there's a

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit of irony. So you want it to seem old.

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>You might put some glitter on it something that make

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it look real nice. But uh, what about the old

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>man question? If your old man's taxing, your old dad's

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>texted me, I can see that, like you know, I

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>can see burning it George. You know, I got uh,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of us adventurers out there, you know,

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>something something bad happens to one of us, and I

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>end up with Janni's uh old buck Mount, and I

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>gotta be like, oh yeah, I mean yannest is Buck.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>And then that's a good way to like talk about

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Joannice uh, you know, years after his demise, I can

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>see something like that, like remember your buddy fondly. But

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just an odd thing because taxing or me is

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>worth nothing, right, It's like it is worth a great, great,

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>great amount to the person who went on that trip

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and had that adventure. And you get to say, like

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>when people say oh wow, look at that, they don't

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>mean look at that thing, and how much like did

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>it score? It's like, oh wow, please tell me about

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the adventure and the story that went along with this,

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>And that can really only be done well by the

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>person who had that firsthand account, went out and shook

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>hands with him. As you like to say, it's some

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>other guys stuff. You don't even know if he was

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, he might have been some asshole. I mean,

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>who knows, But you can turn that into a good story.

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a It's a tough one because, like for me, taxidermy,

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, it means so much to the person, whereas

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're just someone else's taxidermy, it's just like buying

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>some home good scrap that you put up on the wall. Um,

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. Now, Like if it's your dad, you would

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>think there's probably at some point where you went on

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a hunt and like that. You know, just because you

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't kill it doesn't mean that doesn't mean something to you.

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But if he's just like, oh, he shot all this

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff and I don't want it at all, then why

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>does he even have a problem with somebody else having it?

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 1>See what I'm saying, Like he cares so little about

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the experience there that, but he cares if someone else

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>has it. That doesn't make any sense. Why not just

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>get rid of it in that way, sell it and

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then take that money and go on your own hunt

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and put something else on your wall. Yeah. Yeah, as

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>long as whoever buys it and then owns it, you know,

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>can apply their own value to it, then who cares?

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>You know? And I think that I was just thinking

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>about it from the perspective of the taxidervist. When they

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>make it, they don't even really a ship probably about

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>your story. I mean, they use thousands of them a

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>year right there. It's like a that's their life's work

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's art. Taxidermy is art, right, and so he'd

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>probably rather have it just sit on any wall as

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>long as people can appreciate like the job well done

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>versus you're thrown in a pile and burning it because

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't want it in someone else's hands. Yeah, there's

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a drama about burning it. But my old man has

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>such a peculiar taste, Like he has the first fawn

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you ever killed with his bowl, like a six month

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>old dear. He got that mounted, he got a he

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>got a wild pigs as mounted and another pig head

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>monitor and he keeps him like he kept them like separate.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So the wall is, you know, like on one side

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of the wall, like there's that and there's side the wall.

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>There's the head burn it. That's I can I I

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>got a like a kind of funny story that is

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>actually going to divulge something that I've been keeping a

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>secret for a very long time. That refers to taxi

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to me, and my brother's actually here, so he's gonna

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>hear it for the first time, but this just reminded me. Right, So,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>like quite a few years ago, we're sitting, like when

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I was his roommate, We're sitting in the kitchen and

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>his now wife who's his girlfriend at the time. We're

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about home decorations, right, and she you know like sometimes,

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people in relationships have like a

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>butting heads of when it comes to hanging some antlers

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>or a mount or whatever. I'm sure some people understand

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. I have not had to live

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>with that, but I know that it happens. Right. So

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we are having this conversation and his now wife is like, no,

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>that is you know, a lot of these are gonna

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>go to the garage. And I was like, yeah, but

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>they meet like that is a decoration in the house

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that means something that you can't go by to store,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like a shitty home good sign that says something that

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 1>you read once and never read again. She's like, no,

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I read my signs and I read them all the time. Right.

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, we drink wine in this house, and when

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the wine's gone, we drink more wine. Kind of right.

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>So to prove a point, about four years ago, I

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 1>got this great idea. I took a sign right by

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>their front door that said, what did you say, Um,

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a nurse. I'm here to save your ass, not

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>kissed it. Right, So, that day, four years ago, I

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>took that, I scanned it into like computer. I used

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Photoshop to rearrange the letters and say I'm a nurse.

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm here to wipe your ass, not kiss it. Then

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I glued that over the front and stuck the sign back.

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Four years later, the sign is still there. But had

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody messed with the antlers, I would know immediately. Yeah,

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it was like a forkey buck hangover.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>You had a nice big buck, you know, you know,

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like it means something. You look at it every day,

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and every day you think of those memories. But every

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>day you look at the stuff you got at the

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>home good store, you don't have that same connection. And now,

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, I would want to see how long

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it went, but I feel like four years is enough

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and I can find you gotta spring the track at

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>some point. Man, Here's here's another good one. Here's another

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>good one. It's like kind of taxidermy uh dude in Pennsylvania,

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>him and his brother in law track and a bear

0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>in the snow, and they kicked the bear are up.

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>The brother in law spots the bear running downhill and

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>they both take a crack at it. Bear falls over dead.

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>They skin it. There's like one hole in that bear.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>They split the meat and shared the meat, and they're

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to solve out whose bear hide. The brother in

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>law like it has to be without knowing the guy

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that spotted it will be my opinion, Yeah, I mean,

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>how else they gonna buy it up? They and then

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>there's no ball. One hole, two shots, two guys bear,

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>someone's like as a bear and they both shoot. Bam.

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Bear falls over dead. They go down skin it. One

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>shot had hit it. Now this guy that rolled in's

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>got all these theories, but why he thinks it was him.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>He feels that he is the guy that got it.

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>But the only solution is they got to move in

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>together and put the bear in the house and the

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>bear in the middle of the house without like my

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>with without knowing other things like what I'd be like,

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>whose spot was it? Who found the track? Perhaps? But

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 1>no one what I know? I would say, the guy

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that saw it, it's his bear hide. I was saying

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like the meat eater Supreme Court, whoever punched that tag first?

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Because that guy is like so comfut, He's like, oh

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>bed dead bear, that was me. He's got it because

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody had to tag that bear. How would they decide

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>to tag the bear? I didn't ask me that question.

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a good point because if you in the moment,

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>like if you're talking about it three years later, in

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that moment, you kind of knew maybe it was the

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>other day, why don't you put your tag on it?

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Or he had the person who didn't put their tag

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 1>on it had this theory like, well, I won't tag

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it because I get to go out bear hunting again.

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And he's just pissed that he didn't get another one awards.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.959
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like game warden would want to know whose

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>tag was on it. That might be better. Yeah, I

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>like that one better than the whoth spotted it. Yeah, yeah, confidence. Yeah,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>just just brought back the memories of a moose hunt.

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>And I was with a guy that I had met

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>elk hunting in Colorado. Were up in Alaska, were moose

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>hunting with a couple of other buddies, and we had

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>two guys with cariboo k tags. Two guys with moose tag.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I was one of them, and I was hunting with

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>this guy from Arkansas and I saw this incredible cariboo bull. Yeah,

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>look at him. And I'm the one that spotted. So

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of kind of in that line of of yours.

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I spotted at first, and I said, you know what, Junior,

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>his name Arkansas. Junior. I think I'm gonna shoot that

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 1>cariboo and put my moose tag on the cariboo, which

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you can in in Alaska anything lesser than the price

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of your your tag, as we know. And he's okay,

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm lining up on this cariboo. We had

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of a downward shot and I shot a little high.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I hit it, but shot high. Now where I come from,

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you shoot an animal, you're gonna want to

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>put another one in it quickly. Well, this cariboo kind

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of ran a little bit to the right, and unbeknownst

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 1>to me, Junior is there with a three and Ah's

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>just laying down lead and I looked, but pretty soon

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>he's going I got it. I got it, I got it.

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>So here was a deal I spotted at first. I

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>shot it. He shot it. I still wanted to hunt moose,

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>so he tagged, No, it all worked. I didn't get

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a moose. Now, you don't come around asking for your

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>cariber antler though. No. Uh okay, freezers, I mean this

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is a big reason why I do not. There's no

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like my rifle very seldom comes off my shoulder until

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody else is long since out of the game. Now,

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>our situation in Mexico this year was very different for

0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>me because that I mean, it's just so rare for

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:06.240
<v Speaker 1>me to ever like jump in there and be wanting

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to pull the trigger before everybody else is out of there.

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Our situation was a little bit different. But yeah, you're

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>like the leaders eat last. There's a great set of

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>examples here to maybe be like missed. So you miss

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's go keep going, keep things clearly defined. Yeah, you're good.

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>You know you're feeling okay. Uh freezers, guy rode in.

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>He says, I see how real I don't know what

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 1>this means. Real hunters all seem to have a freezer.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>He wants to know if you're running, he wants stand

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>up or chest up. Yeah, I've seen a lot of

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>guys spend a lot of time chess freezers, taken everything out,

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>finding some squirrel from a decade ago, laying down in

0:37:55.560 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>there somewhere, putting everything back in. That's my pro chest freeze.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Her argument that I might find something like, oh, there's

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a squirrel I didn't even know I had that. It's

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like a little grab bag. Guys with chess freezers always

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>are eating the newest thing. Yeah, is there something wrong

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>with that? I'm approachest freezer. It's my school of freezer management.

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Is I derivate from this a little bit, but generally

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel that it's first in. What am I trying

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 1>to say? Trying to say first in, last out? First,

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a chest freezer. I'm very confused. Yeah, I want

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to put it a cool I want to put in

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the cool way like first and last out. But I

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that makes sense, meaning eat the old stuff,

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>right and chest freezer dudes always are eating new stuff. Yeah,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>but see here here's the here's my my like what

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I do. And yeah, the the chess freezer does suck,

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>but they're cheaper than the stand up freezers. So you

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>can buy two or three chest freezers for the price

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>upright freezer, and then you go old freezer, new freezer,

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>new freezer, and you start eating from this freezer and

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>work your way till the older and then it just

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>keeps ready. And then once the new once the old

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>freezer is empty, that is now the new freezer, and

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you move on to middle freezer. That's exciting. Like tell

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>your wife, like, we're on freezer to freezer to freezer

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>number two, go to the left. Uh yeah, I run. Uh,

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like really committed to stand up. I just like

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 1>to open it. There does stuff ever like slide out though,

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like bad, bad, hurt yourself. It's like it's risky. It's

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 1>risky because your kids a monkey with it. The doors

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 1>can right, Gravity's not working for you. Half the trying

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to close it, close it. I said, it's the gravity

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>does work for me. You could open that door and

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>move your hand. Well, you know there's another reason freezers failed. Yep. Well,

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>if it fails and it's upright a little easier to

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 1>get the stuff out. I don't know if you all

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>have ever had a chest fez or fail, but I

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>have saw in Arizona. But there's so much it was

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>blood and guts and gold. Chest freezers don't fail. I

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>just realized I got to meet in your house. You

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>got Yeah, you got meet in my up right? What

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I do at my up right? I haven't installed it onim.

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I just had to get a new one. Is I

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>bought one of those little rinky dink little alarms. You

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>get them to send a message to your phone. I

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't gone that far, but there's an alarm the raises,

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Holy hell when that temperature drops below a certain town.

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So above sorry you know well you'll know well you

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>actually said that when it drops below two. But I

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten around to that. But above a certain tempt,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>it starts beeping as long as you alert people in

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>your house. If you hear that noise, check on it. Um.

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, I opened it up. It's just it's

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.240
<v Speaker 1>like beautiful. And when I opened a guy's chest freezer,

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I just don't get it. It doesn't move me. There's

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a mystery there. There's a mystery that chest freezer. You

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know what I look. I'm like, there's some freezer

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>burns stuff in the bottom of that freezer. Man, I

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>guarantee it. I'm still eating at all, still eating it.

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a chest freezer guy. Yeah, And I got a

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>bunch of reusable grocery bags and all like you know,

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like half antelope goes in like an old Lulu lemon

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>bag that I have and half you know, and you

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>can kind of as long as nobody else's monkeying with it.

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You gotta system in there. Well, I sold this from

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Jim Harrison. He would keep a inventory. I quit doing

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it and let's just start back up. He would keep

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a freezer inventory on there and you would check items out,

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you do like hash marks like one

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>five five hash marks for burger or whatever, and you

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>pull a pack of burger out, you account for it,

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and everything was accounted for on there. But then it

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 1>requires people in your household to be as O c

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>D as you are, because the whole system falls apart

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>in the minute you have a family. But as a

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 1>single guy, it feels really good to have that list

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of what's going on in the freezer. Yeah, I was

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna say that only works with no kids' running around.

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's bad sheep nuts. Now there is. In my mind,

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 1>there's no uh set as impressive as a big horn

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you think about. You think that, Yeah, well it only

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>because I've been I've had the good Forces showing a

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of people some of the first sheep they've looked at,

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you just can wait for it, like

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you just wait for it, and man, they're like, my goodness.

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I know, I wasn't gonna bring it up,

0:42:56.840 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's like really something, that's really something. Um

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>but a guy wrote in about he got he killed

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a desert big one, unna catch what st He's like wondering, like,

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>what's up a rocky mountain oysters on sheet? You know,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to point out them that that the

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>we're at a at the b h A Rendezvous and

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the team that won the Wild Game cook Off their

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>signature dish was a poached desert big horn testicle. Do

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you do you guys? What are you? Have you been

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>experiments with wild game oysters? Yeah? Uh, you know elk

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and the red not not great. It's got a little

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>bit of Copenhagen and take a type of tass to it.

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah really, but you know, once you're I'm also like,

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't cook something and then throw it away ever,

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>So you know it's a big lesson lingers so to speak. Uh,

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>because once yeah, once you're committed you're committed um. And

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't seem that big in comparison to a big

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 1>horned sheep, But when they taste like hot Copenhagen there

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>in your frying pan, they leave a big impression. When

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>people are eating them off cattle. They're young, yes, but

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 1>then you're eating some seven eight year old testicle, potentially

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>eating big game testicles. Yep. That is like flowing testosterone

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 1>at that time. It's the real deal, man, Yep. Yeah.

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like, can I return to something. It's

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 1>hard to use the word poached when you're talking about

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>because when you said poach, I thought maybe the sheep

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>was poached, not the nuts. Well, no, it wasn't a poached.

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't an illegally taken sheep. Like a cooking poaching,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>cooking the way like the way I've had them best.

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And we started out doing this with antelope. We'd call

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>him hot buttered buck nuts, and we would take them

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 1>out and have a ton of butter and put them

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in the um and put them in a pan and

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>like ladle and so they're cooking in butter, but you're

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>ladling hot butter over them and in the end, dressed

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>with some Frank's red hot in there. Slice it thin,

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and it tastes like octopus. If if an octopus had

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 1>stacks with bacon is what it winds up. That's what

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like. The slices that the testicle slices wind

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>up tasting like that would be my recommendation to someone

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>who was dealing with desert big horn. But I would

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>say to slice it very thin, because it's like a

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>small oyster is great, right, and a gigantic oyster is

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>not so great. I mean oysters like the shellfish. And

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that when you're when you're get into testical preparation,

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a little taste, a little experience is better than a

0:45:54.960 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>big experience. I find, Okay, I usually edge my food

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:06.399
<v Speaker 1>of where it's been and so I'm yeah, but i'd

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of leave the the you know, the the bow

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>and the stern alone. So maybe not the brains, maybe

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>not the testicles. Yeah, I can see that that's reasonable,

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>but you gotta try, right, curiosity is same testicle. You

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>taste it and uh at the BH thing, it was

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the best dish made there. But I have uh like

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 1>in a version, I've never cooked them myself because one

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>of my brothers shot a desert big horn. I was like, Oh,

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to cook the nuts and then I

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>put them in a little baggy and in my pack,

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, we unload all the meat, you know,

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the yahda. It'd make two trips to pack them out.

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm and I'm hunting, and I'm like, god, I

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>must get my pack just smells like shit, you know.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's maybe three months later and I'm like, what there.

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I forgot that they were in there, and that was

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>That just ruined it for me. On that same line,

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.479
<v Speaker 1>I used to when I shoot teal, you know, sitting

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>in the duck blind, get a teal and sit there

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>and just pluck them out and dump them in my pocket. Well,

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>next season comes around, I still got a teal in

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>my pocket. Check your pockets, check your pack, whytch your nuts,

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and check your pockets. Um. I had to argue with

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>my brother about what I was trying to tell him

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 1>that the tarsl gland on a deer that if you

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>get that, you know, they'll they'll urinate down their leg

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and it goes over and passed over. That oil. It's

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 1>like a oil that that gland produces and that's what

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>they like to put on the ground to leave their

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 1>little calling card. And I was telling that a lot

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of gaminess comes from people getting that oil all over

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the meat, which he was very resistant to this idea

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 1>that that's what's doing it. And he's like, I think

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that tastes different, Like that tastes different than what people

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>think they taste and they say that like mule deer

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>or whatever or gaming. So he started carrying one of

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>those around in a ziplock bag. He like, cut that

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>patch of hide off one it would carry it the ziplock.

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It would want people to have a piece of meat

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 1>and taste it, and then he want them to dab

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:26.839
<v Speaker 1>it on this thing that he had in this bag

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>in order to demonstrate his point about what caused his

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>gaming meat. Okay, moving on, use you hunts, what like,

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>what's the sheep foundations? Take on you hunts, you know, Steve,

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>we look at how few sheep there are out there,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and there's certainly opportunities to move them. But but frankly,

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>in many jurisdictions were running out of safe places to

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>put wild sheep um. Either they'll come in contact with

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>domestic sheep and goat and get disease, and I so

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>there there are certain management situations where harvesting and you

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>just makes good sense. So you're you're you're putting it

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>that um, you're putting the luxury not there, the opportunities

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>not there to take whatever you've determined to be an

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>excess number and established new herds, and so you just

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>left with what might be regarded as like excess sheep.

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Right And you know, we've got a situation in Montana

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I think we're gonna break the loggerhead. But

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>we've had a situation in Montana that we just haven't

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 1>been doing full on trapping transplants because they're just not

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.720
<v Speaker 1>safe places to put them. We've been doing little little

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>transplants where Madison Valley will take some sheep from one area,

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.959
<v Speaker 1>will bring them thirty miles or so away and try

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to keep them staying in that area. About a third

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of them go back. But in a case like Montana,

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it would make sense if you've got a large population

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in a in a confined area, um take a few

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.719
<v Speaker 1>years out. Wyoming does the same thing. So it just

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>it depends on the jurisdiction. But we are supportive of

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>youth hunts or youth hunts, you hunts um if if

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the wildlife professionals feel that's the best best management scheme

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>for their uh, their state or their province. Yeah, because

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy that a list had written in about it,

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was looking at that you could have like

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a really in some places, there's pretty good you have

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty good odds of drawing a U tag. But he

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 1>felt like he couldn't tell if he should feel funny

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>about doing it, like it just seems like a great

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 1>way to go have the experience. Um, but why He's like,

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like there's so much emphasis on rams

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't know like morally or ethically, I mean

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the ethics question on that is like I feel like nonexistently,

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of course it's fine. Which is I think that one

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.439
<v Speaker 1>of the arguments against it be like, well, why don't

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:44.919
<v Speaker 1>you do it? I think in a lot of states,

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>if you draw the you if you've been accumulating points

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to hope you draw a tag for a RAM UM,

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I think typically you'd lose your points. Oh you don't

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>need to technically not on the U hunts is there

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>right and there and they want to incentivise you to

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to get them, So just again depends is on the jurisdiction.

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But as an organization, you guys, are we support it

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>if the wildlife professionals are saying that's the best management

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>scheme for that state, province or tribal area. Yeah, what

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 1>uh we all know that with um. When people talk

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>about too many elk, too mey deer, we're typically talking

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 1>about agricultural damage. What constitutes too many sheep? Like, what

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is the measure of too many sheep? The habitat first

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and foremost? But as our vice president of Conservation and

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Operations Kevin Hurley's thirty year biologists with Wyoming Game and

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Fish now now with us beending with us eight years,

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you know it's funny you look at you look at

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>wild sheep, and they live in the toughest, most remote

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>often um you know, God loving but also God awful places.

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 1>But as Kevin says, and in particular with big horns,

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 1>are born looking for a place to die. Um, for

0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. You know, this tough, tough animal that carves

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>out a living on top of the mountaintops often is

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>so prone to respiratory disease, and so the fear can

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>be if you get too densely populated look at feed lots. Um.

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, you get too densely populated area, if you

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:19.720
<v Speaker 1>get a disease outbreak in that situation, you might wipe

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>out the whole herd. So again, the wildlife professionals know

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the carrying capacity of the area. UM. I don't think

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a a a set answer of you know, we

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 1>want a population of three hundred in this spot, two

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in that spot. But agencies do have population goals and

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>if they're if they're too high, they'll they'll author its

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:46.879
<v Speaker 1>youth hunts. Yeah, hunt hunts now with uh, I've heard

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 1>a guy talk about you know, I was really recently

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>where guy was talking about c w D where there's

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>this argument was there's this conversation around c w D

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.320
<v Speaker 1>where some people are point, I know, it's not a

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>cheap issue, but while they fishing, where some people are

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>saying that to eliminate baiting being able to bait deer

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in certain places because it brings deer into close proximity

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and nail potentially coming too close contact and rub noses

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and stuff and transmit. But then I was reading this

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 1>rebuttal to the idea, someone arguing that it would just

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.240
<v Speaker 1>go watch dear if you just watch, dear, They're always

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>up to each other, touching noses. They go up to

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 1>licking branches and lick the same branch. Like you can't stop, dear,

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you can't stop this animal from coming up against each other.

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>So with when it comes to sheep, like when it

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>comes to sort of like controlling disease spread and sheep,

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>isn't it just like regardless of density, it's just the

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>fact that they're natural gregarious behavior means that there's two

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna find each other. Yeah, and we have that

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 1>problem with their good gregarious to their cousins as well.

0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So a bighorn sheep could be very interested in a

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>little group of domestic sheep down the mountain. You know,

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>there's some pretty cute domestic sheep down there. Yeah, So

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, all seriousness that that is a problem you've got.

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>You've got a roaming big horn, whether it's a ram

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 1>or you comes into contact with domestic sheep. Uh, it

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 1>may pick up a pathogen and bring it back to

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the wild sheep. So there's a debate going on on connectivity.

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, connectivity sounds like it's a real good thing.

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>You've got genetic diversity, but in some areas. Uh, connectivity

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 1>is a bad thing. Where you may have an isolated

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>population over here that's healthy. You may have another isolated

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 1>population over here that's less healthy, has more bugs in it,

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and on and on and in the past, we started

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>figuring where we want connectivity, so we would connect the

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>dots and we would transplant sheep and fill in those holes. Well,

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 1>now what have you just done. You've now taken a

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>less healthy population and connected it to the healthiest population

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>down the line. So it's uh, there's benefit and burden

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>to it. Yeah, like picture. Uh you guys ever deal

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:15.919
<v Speaker 1>with chafing. Chafing usually when it's real hot, we're talking

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>about that chafing. And I wrote in criticizing that he

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 1>just started hunting recently, and he criticizing hunters for being

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>too quiet about chafing. HM, like they don't want to

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 1>take on the hard subjects. Really, I don't feel like

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm being quiet about chasing baby wipes or I mean,

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:42.439
<v Speaker 1>that's God's gift to sheep hunting. I think that took Yeah,

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 1>who's all dealt with this? I feel some relief and

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm finally able to talk about it and open for

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a real thing. Man. I deal with it at

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 1>trade shows. Ideal will. You're walking around these trades, you

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 1>get chased in trade every once in a while. That's

0:55:57.480 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a little too much information. Then I thought it was

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>we were in the nest and the trust tree, or

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>we not have any of you ever cut off your underwear?

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm too open. Somebody else has to go

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:13.839
<v Speaker 1>not prone to it. I've never had it. I think

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.240
<v Speaker 1>if you have really skinny legs, I think you're like immune.

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's a thing, you know. I've had chafing

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 1>real Yeah, it was really hot. Yep, chafing um, and

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I've found it. I don't live in fear chafing because

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, I think you got to give it

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a definition here. Well, okay, I'll talk a little bit

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 1>about it, but I think there's probably some folks out

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 1>there they don't know what you're talking about. Well, I

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.879
<v Speaker 1>think there's different kinds of chafing. So our friend uh Rourke,

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:41.719
<v Speaker 1>who we've had on the show, he used to run

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the Buds program for the Navy Seals, and he's he

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like to entertain anyone talking about chafing until the

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>experience of that chafing, which is that you're either running

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>or rolling in beach sand. And he's like, that's chafed

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 1>into a whole new level. I think that. But in

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>my mind, there's frontal chafing, which can occur at the

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 1>top of one's size, and there's like a rear chafing

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>which can occur around the areas of the gluteal crease.

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I've never experienced the former. I've experienced the ladder a

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:21.439
<v Speaker 1>couple of times and I solved it. But who else,

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I've never heard you talk about getting chafed. Yeah.

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I carry out baby wipees just like Gray, and you know,

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>every few days freshen up, and that seems to take

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 1>care of him. Just keep them cleaning. The benefactors though,

0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of other people's chafing. Hear me out, we're in the

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:42.440
<v Speaker 1>brakes when definition how are you going on? I'm following.

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>We're hunting buck and it was the brakes can be

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>hot in September and we had done a big, giant,

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>big tour and we got back and like I was

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>in camp like somehow just you know, sometimes in the

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>in the the end of the day, you just you

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk, and so the faster person just

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 1>moves out of head. You get back to camp, like

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes later, my bunny Tony rolls in. I'm like, dude,

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>what funny. Yeah, He's like, yeah, bro, I got two problems,

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, problems. And then after he gets cleaned off

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and we found whatever he needed to help himself out,

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't think I can go out tomorrow. Well,

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the thing was, we had gotten onto a big bull

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that day, so I was like, that's too bad. I'm

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go back out and and so yeah,

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I got to go hunt this big bull by myself

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>because Tony was back in camp with a serious case

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to shave, Like, he was like, such bad chap as

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:37.959
<v Speaker 1>walk home. Now, you gotta gets bring some gold bomb

0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 1>medicated powder. You're up on the mountain. You know, I've

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 1>used uh lip bomb to cure to keep to give

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you that just a little bit of buffer, got to

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 1>throw it away. A question Steve on that one, dude.

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not a direct apple. We have like a left

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 1>pocket lip bomb and a right pocket lip bomb. And

0:58:58.000 --> 0:58:59.920
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you know you don't kind of get

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>confused there. It's a great question. If you're laughing about

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:06.080
<v Speaker 1>this the other day, where um, it's a way that

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>if you don't like to share your chapstick, you just

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about how that this is a thing one can

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 1>do and you'll find the requests. I figured they'd dry up.

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>No one ever comes around asking for your chapstick. Now,

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>can you predict chafing? No, because, like I said, I

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 1>want to be clear, I've had I've had it like

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:31.919
<v Speaker 1>maybe three times, but it's a vicious feeling. All three

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 1>have been hunting, all three have been hunting hot hot weather,

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.479
<v Speaker 1>and it's all been the kind of chafing that would

0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:44.320
<v Speaker 1>be called chap ass monkey button. Yes. And it's like

0:59:44.400 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to bring it up because the guy

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>was trying to like people when people hunting is intimidating

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to people who didn't grow up around it, and you

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 1>come in and it's like the tag, then that's confusing,

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's like what gun do you buy? And ask

0:59:56.120 --> 1:00:00.520
<v Speaker 1>confusing and your ass is chapped and asking refusing, And

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to, like, as a gesture towards emerging hunters,

1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just bring this up and have like

1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 1>a like a form about it. Tell him he's not alone.

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 1>My brother suffers from it horribly. My bigger brother suffers

1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>from it horribly. The smaller size brother does not. So

1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it is it's not. It's not genetic. It's

1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:23.360
<v Speaker 1>linked to girth to like big dudes seem to get chapped.

1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 1>You're feeling this, Yeah, we're here to share uh every

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:39.040
<v Speaker 1>good on app It's relief. I feel relief. How does

1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:44.800
<v Speaker 1>one dispatch a squirrel? So you guy was more about

1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>this shoes a squirrel with jatgun. Squirrel falls down, but

1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not dead. This causes him a lot of distress.

1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big squirrel hunter, but I'd say i'd

1:00:56.600 --> 1:00:59.439
<v Speaker 1>do the same to rabbits and fish. Knock on the head,

1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 1>knock on the head with another tool or like that.

1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Either one wouldn't matter. Yeah, very quickly, um very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>against the tree like a good swing, or against the

1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>butt butt of the shotgun or buddy or twenty two

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>unloaded with a barrel, plant away safe massle control. But

1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a nice clean like I don't want to sell

1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:27.880
<v Speaker 1>him a cop. It's like a guy wanting to do

1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the right thing right. I'm trying to help share the

1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:34.760
<v Speaker 1>information with a nice clean you know, for you folks

1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 1>listening from home. I'm I'm taking my hand and going

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:40.560
<v Speaker 1>with it. And I think that works well. Yeah, I

1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:43.320
<v Speaker 1>think stretching their neck, you know, just grabbing the head

1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and maybe the hind legs with his shoulders and just

1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:48.000
<v Speaker 1>stripes their neck, you know, an inch or two. That

1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:50.800
<v Speaker 1>seems to work pretty good to separate the vertebro yea

1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:54.720
<v Speaker 1>works good for rabbits. I was in a pool one

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<v Speaker 1>time and I'm with a bunch of I'm with my

1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:00.680
<v Speaker 1>wife's some of her friends, all of our kids are

1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:04.680
<v Speaker 1>in the pool, and a rabid I assume he's a

1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:09.120
<v Speaker 1>crazy squirrel, an insane squirrel comes up to the edge

1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:12.240
<v Speaker 1>of the pool and starts running up and down the

1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:15.120
<v Speaker 1>edge of the pool, jumps into the pool with us,

1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and starts chasing people, swimming, chasing kids every which way

1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:25.440
<v Speaker 1>around the pool. And I did a similar, a similar,

1:02:25.560 --> 1:02:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the same kind of grab by the tail and did

1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:33.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of a double and sailed him back out of

1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the pool in such a way that will prove fatal

1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:42.240
<v Speaker 1>for the squirrel, like just a sharp gone. He didn't

1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:45.200
<v Speaker 1>come back, No, we found him. He was dead. Yeah,

1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it was like that kind of that kind of speed. Um,

1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:52.280
<v Speaker 1>this is what I wanted to want to bring up

1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:53.520
<v Speaker 1>for a while, and I think this is good. This

1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:55.560
<v Speaker 1>is good for sheep hunter to learn about or to

1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:59.560
<v Speaker 1>have a good open discussion about this. It's but we've

1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:05.600
<v Speaker 1>come to all talking into talking someone into and the

1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:07.680
<v Speaker 1>guy that wrote in he calls it how to talk

1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:15.520
<v Speaker 1>on to something. Meaning you're sitting there hunting and you

1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:19.280
<v Speaker 1>see something very far away and it's hard to see

1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and your body's like, well, where is it? And then

1:03:22.040 --> 1:03:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you get that sinking feeling of like, oh no, what's

1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the best way to talk someone one? Is it into her? Onto?

1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:34.240
<v Speaker 1>We say into, how do you talk someone into her? Onto?

1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:37.600
<v Speaker 1>What's your best method? I'm gonna tell what his method

1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:43.600
<v Speaker 1>is after I hear what you guys feel the best method?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I believe, I know what he believes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I do this a lot. This is part

1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of the guide job. Like you see something and first off,

1:03:56.200 --> 1:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you if because like you can hunt with different people.

1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:00.680
<v Speaker 1>There's certain people that you go, oh it's over there,

1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and they pick it up right away. Right those people

1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you can tell them where you see other things, some

1:04:04.560 --> 1:04:06.280
<v Speaker 1>things you just have to like. And then there's people

1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that no matter how will you explain things. They just

1:04:08.280 --> 1:04:11.000
<v Speaker 1>never get it. So you don't have to divulge everything

1:04:11.040 --> 1:04:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you spot to them like I've found figured that out,

1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, just the important stuff and until you're like

1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you want them to see something is specifically. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I do is I you always pick one defining landmark

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<v Speaker 1>and start from there, and then you like build a

1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:32.280
<v Speaker 1>breadcrumb trail to what you're talking about. You know, something

1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:35.000
<v Speaker 1>very defined, like this table right in front of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now see the direction that the pen is pointing on

1:04:37.280 --> 1:04:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that table all right now? Three rows back from that

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<v Speaker 1>and to to you know what I mean, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>build off of you build one thing that's impossible to miss,

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<v Speaker 1>but not saying that thing right there that you can't miss,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to describe it exactly. Once they've got that,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can go off that and work your way

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<v Speaker 1>towards what anything. Yeah, Like you start with a like

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<v Speaker 1>something that's in felt like everyone would agree on correct,

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<v Speaker 1>like the yellow school bus, yes, but not like the

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<v Speaker 1>green tree on the hillside yards away. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>start something very very specific, the highest peak on the

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<v Speaker 1>skyline where two ridges meet, like things that cannot be changed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you work from there. That's the dead giveaway

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<v Speaker 1>of someone that doesn't have their talking into UH program

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<v Speaker 1>dialed in. As soon as I hear green tree, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who's next. There's the green tree over the rocky area,

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<v Speaker 1>that bushy area. Then I'm like, oh man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be I'm just gonna go look for something different.

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<v Speaker 1>But another thing is, like I liked when I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>out with people, I like to queue them in on

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<v Speaker 1>what plants or what because it's way easier to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the only juniper on that hill, and if they

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<v Speaker 1>understand what a juniper is, they're ahead of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But if every tree is the same tree to them,

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<v Speaker 1>then a lot of times so if you know the

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<v Speaker 1>different plants, and you can you know, along the way

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<v Speaker 1>you learn what plants are what, then you can say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's next to that Mormon ture, you're a federal bush

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<v Speaker 1>to the right of that, like that other bush. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different plants that might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little more sparse or thick patches of different types of plants.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just knowing what you're looking at makes a huge difference. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>glossary of terms like that, like that is a saddle

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<v Speaker 1>you see that little place over there that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I call a peak. My my buddys are

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<v Speaker 1>My buddy John did a good job of that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the first time we went and hunted Mexico, we all

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<v Speaker 1>just sat down, was like, this is an ocatillo, this

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<v Speaker 1>is in agave, this is this, this is a century plant,

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<v Speaker 1>because those are the plants that you're gonna be using,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might not be something that you're familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>Once everybody knows what you're talking about, makes it way

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<v Speaker 1>easier to point something out that spiky thing over there.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're doing you're talking into you always have to

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<v Speaker 1>end every sentence with a question so you can get

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<v Speaker 1>an answer too. You see that century bush over there,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't there's a century bush over there. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to evoke a reaction, Yes I do. Century plants

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<v Speaker 1>and Yucka's have a way of making their way into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of talking into is what I've I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to what this guy proposed. I think it might

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<v Speaker 1>be revolutionary, but uh what I the way we've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of developed as we do a lot of that works.

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<v Speaker 1>We're always trying to explain two camera guys where stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is and then they have the extra hard job of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find things on a little screen, like a

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<v Speaker 1>little LCD screen, which is really difficult to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>we start with the undeniable thing, and it could be

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<v Speaker 1>that you're looking at something over there. If the only

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<v Speaker 1>obvious thing is over here, I'll still that's extreme. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>start with the thing that you know, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>do the center of the clock. So the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we identify, we always make that is the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the clock. And then you bread crumb them in. But

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<v Speaker 1>every bread crumb becomes the new clock center across here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like across it, you know, Steve. I think it's good

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<v Speaker 1>also to practice before you're out. I love to mentor youth.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to um, you know, mentor new hunters, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, before you even out in the field and

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<v Speaker 1>you got to dial them in, do some practice rounds. Yeah, wells,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever technique you you have. But but do that before

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<v Speaker 1>it's game time. We can deal with audience members. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We could see that guy from him go to twelve o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another guy right here. I got another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I do that I just feel kind of like sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when you're guiding and you get a person that just

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<v Speaker 1>does not understand like you you guide him in real Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just now what I do is, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm dealing with. Pull out my phone,

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<v Speaker 1>I take a picture, I circle the area, hand him

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and keep glassing. He's like, click a circle

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<v Speaker 1>here and then and then you get back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>You just keep glassing. That's yeah, that's solid man. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you flip the screen, there's a game there too,

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<v Speaker 1>with the center of the clock. The center of the

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<v Speaker 1>clock deal. I was trying to explain it to my

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<v Speaker 1>six year old did our day. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>talk her into talk her into a deer up on

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<v Speaker 1>the hill on our We're looking out our window, eating,

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready dinner, and I'm telling her and she looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me and she says, I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>tell time. I that's a good point, Rosemary. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go and find out nobody going about this. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy proposes this, and I feel like this is really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna change stuff if he you know, like the trick

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<v Speaker 1>of when the sun is gonna set, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how much time you got for the sun

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<v Speaker 1>hits the mountain. There's like it's what a finger per

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes as a rule, film they do him and

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<v Speaker 1>his bodies do okay, Like you're like, okay, well let's agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you see that rocky outcrop. Okay, now drop down

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<v Speaker 1>from there, stretched out arm, bent fingers and they do

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<v Speaker 1>finger counts, layer index, finger um the rocky outcrop and

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<v Speaker 1>then drop down three fingers and what's there. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that would be really helpful. But it's only gonna

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<v Speaker 1>work when you look with the naked eye, because as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you started doing it through binoculars you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>But it tells him where to look, Like I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>with the naked eye in the early stages of talking

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<v Speaker 1>one into something, it'll work. Can you imagine how many

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<v Speaker 1>people think this is the stupidest conversation. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>really big deal though, Man, I think we should go

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<v Speaker 1>back to chaffing. Oh do we put chafe in the rest? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>chaffing happens. Man, I got him. Yeah, I wanna jump

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<v Speaker 1>into literature real quick. Everybody like every name, like what's

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<v Speaker 1>the best book? Like if you got to tell people

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<v Speaker 1>like people that are like wanting to learn about hunting

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to experiment. Honey, they can't do the best.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you could be like, man, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read one book, make it this book. Imagining from an

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<v Speaker 1>audience that someone who's interested in or developing an interest,

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<v Speaker 1>and and think of it like in a big way

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<v Speaker 1>where you're really giving them a sort of gift, a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of framework to begin entering the world. I think

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<v Speaker 1>got it. First, the better be a sheep one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. I was into Africa before I was into sheep,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, I could pick. I had the hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know some of some of Robert Rourke's works, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't so much the species, it was just how

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote about the landscape and it just inspired me

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. So, you know, I guess I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would look at it from a standpoint of of

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<v Speaker 1>what's you know, what's going to bring out the essence

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<v Speaker 1>of hunting in you may not be the critters. It

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<v Speaker 1>might just be the sights, of sounds, of smells, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole nine yards. I think it. I think it just

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<v Speaker 1>depends on where you want to go. There's some unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>books on sheep hunting. We're throwing out there. We want

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<v Speaker 1>concrete action, stuff would look at, I would look at

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Anderson's Great Rams series is one of them that

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<v Speaker 1>they're inspiring, you know, great photography, and and Bob's wit

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<v Speaker 1>and his way to caption photographs is his second to

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<v Speaker 1>none and a gratuitous plug. He's gonna be at the

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<v Speaker 1>sheep Show signing his latest book. It's interesting to use

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<v Speaker 1>the word inspiring. It's a really inspiring book. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a coffee table book. It is. But it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you, dude, it makes you want to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the mountains so bad. That book you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hunt cheap doesn't turn the off, turns you on. Some

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<v Speaker 1>books do the opposite, you know, it's too hard of

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<v Speaker 1>a reagion, it doesn't. But that book's fun. No, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go. Everybody gets chapped. Turkey seasons coming up. Colonel

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Kelly's tent Legion is like they call that man

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<v Speaker 1>the poet lored of turkey hunting, and for good reason.

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<v Speaker 1>That book is the way he describes a turkey just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a raptor just walking in. He's

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<v Speaker 1>calling it in. It's very common hunting happenstance that this

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<v Speaker 1>happens to all turkey hunters all the time. But the

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<v Speaker 1>way he describes that every interesting, like all the intricate

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<v Speaker 1>things that are happening through the lens of this man's eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it changed the way I looked at turkey hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great one. I don't know if it's fair

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like the it sells a little short to

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<v Speaker 1>say it's the best turkey book, because there aren't any

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<v Speaker 1>turkey books. Yeah, I mean it's really the only It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's it belongs to kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the canon the hunting cannon. Yeah. Yeah, if you put

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<v Speaker 1>it along with like just the description of talking to

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<v Speaker 1>an animal, calling an animal to you, having that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>His description of that conversation is it could be a

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<v Speaker 1>turkey and elk. Whatever, doesn't matter. That the way that

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<v Speaker 1>he describes it to me is the best out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a considerate writer, too, because right away you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why in the hell would this book becalled the Tenth Legion,

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<v Speaker 1>And he explains it so quickly that you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to spend the whole time wondering why it's called the

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<v Speaker 1>Tenth Legion, So don't worry about that. It's called the

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<v Speaker 1>tent legion. It has nothing. Yeah, Cal for the first

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of years, I knew you you had a book

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<v Speaker 1>about Ireland in your truck Trinity, but that's not your pick, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that definitely teaches you have thing or two,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably not about taters and whiskey. Oppression, uh, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing to know if you like to

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<v Speaker 1>if you really want to get into hunting. There there's

1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:49.200
<v Speaker 1>some oppressive times for sure. Um. So I think Jack

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<v Speaker 1>London short stories, Uh. He does a good job of

1:14:53.760 --> 1:15:00.760
<v Speaker 1>stringing together like miserable, severe conditions with um kind of

1:15:00.880 --> 1:15:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the string of like you know, humanity. Uh. Also Robert W.

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<v Speaker 1>Servius does the same thing in his poems, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like things are terrible, you're gonna lose some fingers and

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<v Speaker 1>parts of parts of you. But um, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like this is what life's about, um, so find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to come through on the other side type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I really like Fawkner's The Big Woods because

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<v Speaker 1>it it's a little bit it was hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to get into it, but I've probably read the thing

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen times at this point, um, and it's it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes through this multigenerational hunting camp, and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hits the different characters that you will um

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<v Speaker 1>come in contact with through a life of hunting, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the folks that never really leave camp. They're more there

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<v Speaker 1>to tend the fire and tell stories and um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the folks that kind of slip away and

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing the real hunting pretty much for everybody in camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of gives you an insight into a big

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<v Speaker 1>group kind of classic hunting characters. And I wouldn't consider

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<v Speaker 1>any of these like real hunting books, but good educational

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<v Speaker 1>books if you want to end up spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time outside Yane Mm hmm. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>say Yannis on here? You spelled it Yannis? Makes it Yannis?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Janice has gotten so broke down by people

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<v Speaker 1>mispronouncing his name. He actually spelled it phonetically. Today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saving everybody times so we can talk about she

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<v Speaker 1>punt instead. I got a bunch of recommendations. You make

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<v Speaker 1>me pick one, yeah, man, one, A couple of quick

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<v Speaker 1>and why obviously you can. There's a bunch that you've

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<v Speaker 1>written that I think would be beneficial to any new

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<v Speaker 1>new hunter. My favorite still a Scavengers Guide, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like a real hunting book. But it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like against It's like kind of what Grace said, It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just gets you in the spirit of going

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<v Speaker 1>and checking down stuff and going on an adventure, you know. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But and again to what Greg was saying, Robert Ruark,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned him, right, the Old Man and the Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>great book some hunting in their life stories. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like you're reading it how to on hunting. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can learn a lot from reading that book

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<v Speaker 1>about hunting safety, uh, generic stuff. Um. And uh, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>leave at that. Okay, Well, I gotta I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>the question about just a book that would interest someone

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<v Speaker 1>in hunting or like someone that wants to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>hunting because I have you know, I mean that's very different. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, it could be like something that wants to

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<v Speaker 1>being impact like being impactful. Okay, Well this was not

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<v Speaker 1>a how to manual, right? Okay? Then then the term

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<v Speaker 1>you used at the beginning, like you can't apply today's

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<v Speaker 1>standards to something of the past. Present is m No

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<v Speaker 1>present is um allowed in my book recommendation? Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, I probably read this book more than

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<v Speaker 1>any other book. Like every book report I did was

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<v Speaker 1>on Death in the Long Grass. But you got good

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<v Speaker 1>grades doing that, you know, I got so good at

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<v Speaker 1>using the same book that. Yes, now it's like in

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<v Speaker 1>today's standard, it's not a politically correct book because he's

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<v Speaker 1>hunting all kinds of dangerous game in Africa and other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first chapter in that book is it racist

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<v Speaker 1>or raist? But like killing lions, elephants, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like things that hit rhinos, hippos, everything, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But like the first uh portion of that book is

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<v Speaker 1>possibly the best description of why people hunt that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever read. Um. It talks about like you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>a part of our culture and like how humans have

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<v Speaker 1>evolved as hunters over thousands of years and how you

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<v Speaker 1>go to these remote places and that's never changed yet

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<v Speaker 1>society sees things completely different even though that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how the world works. And um, I just think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the best descriptions of being a hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just so good with words that UM I

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<v Speaker 1>would always refer to that like back before there was

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<v Speaker 1>internet and other things of like a justification for hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>He does a really good job at laying that out

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<v Speaker 1>and then he goes on to tell some amazing adventure

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<v Speaker 1>stories of Um, not only his own accounts, but accounts

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<v Speaker 1>of like you know, the man Eaters of Tsavo and

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<v Speaker 1>other stories in there. That's just like massive amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>adventure man versus wild beast, killing animals, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being like a hunter. And then he also puts gives

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of credit to like the native trackers and

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<v Speaker 1>their skills and abilities. And I just think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool tying all that in into like this cool

1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>adventure book Death in the Long Grass and in the

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<v Speaker 1>Long Grass, It's funny that I thought it was Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>Like fly fishing has inspired most of my chagrin. It's

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<v Speaker 1>inspired so much more literature than conventional tackle and Africa

1:20:26.240 --> 1:20:31.599
<v Speaker 1>scenes inspire a lot of literature. Yeah, I like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>like the old classic greats were like moved by Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>To right, It's like, you know, when these books are written,

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<v Speaker 1>it's essentially the largest wilderness in the world. Really, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of these trips are going on foot

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<v Speaker 1>or creating roads into these areas and very others. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like a large amount of adventure because it's very untapped

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<v Speaker 1>UM and still there's parts of Africa that are like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like semi mysterious. It's so bizarre to me though too,

1:20:58.840 --> 1:21:04.600
<v Speaker 1>because it's like you could have done that here or

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<v Speaker 1>in the Yukon. I mean, had we just like knocked

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<v Speaker 1>down the game numbers so dramatically at that point it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, let's just go to Africa instead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the hay in the in the heyday, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like that was the that was. It was the good

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<v Speaker 1>old days here there, it was the dark ages here.

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<v Speaker 1>One of that stuff was really coming on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. From the literary perspective, the book like the

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<v Speaker 1>book that most changed my view on wildlife and and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ecology and environmentalism. Um is a book by

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's very uneasy, almost antagonistic toward hunting named

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Lopez. And it's his book Arctic Dreams and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that gets helpful, Like if you like to hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that it's a helpful the book to read

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<v Speaker 1>is Lopez uh in his talk about Eskimo hunters and

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<v Speaker 1>his talking about wildlife in the Arctic and what's happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the art, he makes such a compelling case about

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't condemn it and he doesn't take cheap shots,

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<v Speaker 1>but he lays out in a really clear way, like

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<v Speaker 1>why he's uneasy with hunting, to the point where I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it actually winds up being like helpful and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the mindset. And I think that he offers because

1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:23.160
<v Speaker 1>he's he's so brilliant articulate. I think he actually offers

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<v Speaker 1>like a psychological pathway to finding a way to be

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<v Speaker 1>to to end up being very comfortable with hunting. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to read the perspective of someone who uh

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<v Speaker 1>has just arrived at a hat, arrived at a place

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<v Speaker 1>where they just don't see it. They don't see it

1:22:41.880 --> 1:22:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and make them feel a little sick um because there's

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<v Speaker 1>enough in there that you read and you're like, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I feel like it helps you find a

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<v Speaker 1>path forward and understanding wildlife and our role to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was like a very like when I read

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<v Speaker 1>that book, it really shook me up, man, But like

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<v Speaker 1>not the way that may be questioned what I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do to maybe just understand what I like to

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<v Speaker 1>do so much more Arctic dreams. Now, Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do you want to tell great what he's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do? We should I should intro what we're gonna do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell what he has to do because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that you could do it well after he picks his No, however,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to run the show. We are. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a game we're gonna play called Seeing Through the Bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>see Him Through, and it is brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>our friends at Vortex Optics, and they've been so kind

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<v Speaker 1>of give us a fury five thousand HD binocular which

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<v Speaker 1>is their new range finding binocular. There it is right here,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, ter pick a random person out of the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd here right now to uh come and play the game. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain the game in just a second, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have to pick that person out. I'm gonna have Gray

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<v Speaker 1>pick a number between one and four, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>number between one and ten, and then number between one

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve. I'm gonna how do you do that? First?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'll explain how we're gonna get to the

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<v Speaker 1>person that work one and four three three okay, seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven eleven three seven eleven okay. So section three we

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<v Speaker 1>went one to three. So in section three seven rows back,

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<v Speaker 1>it was last one eleven. If you're if you're the

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<v Speaker 1>seat from left to right me looking at you the

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<v Speaker 1>eleven seat over in the seventh row. Got it? Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>can come on up? Okay, come on up there. You

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<v Speaker 1>might have come around the back sneak through there. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonn to do, We're gonna do like a

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<v Speaker 1>drinking game without drinking. It's two lies. It's two lies

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<v Speaker 1>and a truth. And again, this is the name of

1:25:11.960 --> 1:25:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the game is seeing through the bullshit. We're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>two lies and one truth. You got what's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Bud kad? Are you good with this? You're excited about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Come around in front here, man taken set behind ominously.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta do? Do we do? We gotta mike? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta mike? Oh? Yeah, we got He don't really

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<v Speaker 1>need a mike. I'm sure he can pick it up

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<v Speaker 1>from the rest of them. Do you to what degree

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like you're good at telling with someone's

1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>telling you stretcher, Probably not good at all. Well you

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<v Speaker 1>stick with me, buddy. Do you got Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a good pair of binoculars? How how old are you? Seventeen?

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<v Speaker 1>These are nice binoculars. Do you have you got range

1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>finding binoculars? These things do a good job of picking

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<v Speaker 1>stuff off. We were picking yeah, we were picking off

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<v Speaker 1>cous here at you know, thousand yards of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty handy. Do you know what have you ever

1:26:11.280 --> 1:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>ever played too? Uh? Ever played this game? You've done this?

1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>How do you have done it? It's cool? Good? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want here a lie or the truth? First truth?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a joke. I couldn't tell you straight face, good

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<v Speaker 1>poker face. Okay, Johnny's gonna tell you a story, short

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<v Speaker 1>story here. Be sure to look him in the eyes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's out on mountain lion hunting in the state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>May or may not be aware of this, right, um, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that California band mountain lion hunting outright. At

1:27:00.560 --> 1:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that time, there was a fella who was just getting

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<v Speaker 1>into running hounds. Okay, um, for the next twenty years,

1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he got so good at running mountain lions. Who oh, sorry,

1:27:11.080 --> 1:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta preface it with they. Um, you couldn't do

1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it legal anymore, right, but the states still needed problem

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<v Speaker 1>lions and depredation lions taken out, right, So this guy

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<v Speaker 1>got to working for the state. He got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a really good hound handler. He ended up catching I

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<v Speaker 1>think three hundred and seventy nine in the next ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was, and he became the state's top

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<v Speaker 1>um depredation mountain lion hunter. Okay. What makes it crazy though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that he wasn't running them with the regular walker

1:27:40.400 --> 1:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>treeing hounds. He was using a pack of beagles. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Late eighteen hundreds, early nine hundreds in the Himalaya, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a tigress, Lady Tiger, who takes the killing people

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where this tigress is credited with killing

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<v Speaker 1>over four hundred people. They had to bring in the

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<v Speaker 1>army of Nepal to try to kill the tiger. They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it done. Eventually, an American came and in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days shot it. It's called the chompa

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<v Speaker 1>Watt Tigress. What do you think? So far? Truth over here?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? We want to hear the real story. Geat

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<v Speaker 1>so Reno, Nevad, biggest little city in the world. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a slogan, okay, So how that that's a new

1:28:49.880 --> 1:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>slogan kind of had to reinvent itself, which it did.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's this guy named Major Reno and he was

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<v Speaker 1>a player in the worst loss in US military history,

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<v Speaker 1>Battle of the Little Little Big Horn Montana, okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>this man had a very checkered career in the military,

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<v Speaker 1>including at that battle. It was purported that he, in

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<v Speaker 1>the face of possibly charging Sue and Cheyenne warriors, produced

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<v Speaker 1>half a bottle of whiskey and told his second in

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<v Speaker 1>command Ben teen, I've got half a bottle left now.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, you could name railroad depots after people

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<v Speaker 1>in a commemorative sort of way, and the survivors at

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<v Speaker 1>the Little Big Horn named a new Western Railroad depot

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<v Speaker 1>Reno as kind of an inside joke because of that

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<v Speaker 1>man's you know, probably not too good command. They're at

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<v Speaker 1>battle a Little Big Horn, and that's where you're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Sonny, Okay, So is it Cal's story on

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<v Speaker 1>how Reno got its name by junk captain? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the chomper Watt story about the chompa Wat tigress or

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<v Speaker 1>Yane story about the unlikely mountain lion hunter that uses beagles?

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<v Speaker 1>Can the audience help him? The audience can help. If

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<v Speaker 1>you do help, you can do it. I can I

1:30:31.360 --> 1:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>can walk over and do one of these, and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can cheer for what you think is do it

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<v Speaker 1>like you got You're not sure, No, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Just cheer for the truth. If you think Yanni was

1:30:43.760 --> 1:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>telling the truth, go ahead and give it cheer now. Now,

1:30:50.200 --> 1:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>if you think Ryan Callahan was telling the truth, give

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<v Speaker 1>me cheered. Oh my lord, Stephen Ronella like lions or tigers? Um, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man. The Chompero Wat killer, the Chompero Wat tigress,

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<v Speaker 1>deadliest animal, deadliest animal ever. Jim Corbett killed it, tracked

1:31:31.240 --> 1:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>it to its layer, and slew it. It had a

1:31:34.640 --> 1:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>busted canine, had busted up and lower teeth that had

1:31:37.680 --> 1:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>been shot by a bullet, and it had damaged its teeth.

1:31:42.240 --> 1:31:44.679
<v Speaker 1>And they figured that that somehow either piste it off

1:31:45.080 --> 1:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>or limited its ability to eat native prey, and it

1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>started to prey on people in broad daylight. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, dude, We're gonna give you the knocks man,

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<v Speaker 1>because because there you go, it's vortex fearies. Man, enjoy them.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for playing along. That's Kim the Half. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. What's your name again, Cayden? Take care of man? Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>and guys, are you everybody out there? Uh, we gave

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<v Speaker 1>our stuff away. Thank you very much for joining us,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, stay tuned future episodes and enjoy sheep show.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you very much, Steve. Birthday, birthday, birthday? One,

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<v Speaker 1>last thing? Oh what's the last thing? Birthdays? Oh no, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, don't leave. Who's uh? Who's got a birthday today?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's birthdays right now? How many people stand up? If

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<v Speaker 1>you got a birthday today? You need an idea? Prove it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's that? No? No, no, birthday right now? Birthday right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's got it today? Really, no one is anybody's birthday tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of how many tomorrows? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow there's we need the oldest people whose birthday is tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you've got less time to be alive. We want

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you. We want you got less out to

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<v Speaker 1>be alist. We want you to enjoy it more so,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out your ages. Sit down, three and what was yours?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you're no good? Three? No, yeah, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Come take one of these Take one of these eddy

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<v Speaker 1>we need for them, but take one of these eddy chairs.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, every have a good night. Thank you,