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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: It is our number two and a Tuesday Herd Higher

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Speaker 1: our team, Nick Kright, Greg Olsen, next hour. Justin Herbert's

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Speaker 1: dot by what a good kit he is just outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Good college football weekend. Jmac very good college football week

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Speaker 1: at the Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Penn State game. That is big boy football right there?

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Speaker 4: Man, a lot of good games. I mean if Alabama loses, like,

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Speaker 4: where do.

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Speaker 5: They go from here? You know they got a tough game.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot. I mean, Saturday is really loaded.

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Speaker 6: Goodness.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: I've had a dilemma last couple of weeks. What do

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Speaker 1: I do with the Kansas City Chiefs? So last week

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Speaker 1: I had them at number ten? Where do I have them?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy. Now go the top ten NFL teams according

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Speaker 2: to college number ten.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Baltimore at ten the Chiefs despite a

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Speaker 1: winner eleven. Why because Baltimore's a road favorite. Baltimore is

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Speaker 1: the better offensive team, and like the NBA, the NFL

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Speaker 1: is an offensive league. First, they're scoring thirty seven a game.

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Speaker 1: The problem is their defense is basically the Dallas Cowboys without.

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Speaker 3: The star on the helmet.

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Speaker 1: They got bullied for three and a half hours, and

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Speaker 1: they spent money on it.

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Speaker 3: Five of their six highest.

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Speaker 1: Paid players are on defense, so they've got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a dilemma. And they score so quickly that

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Speaker 1: the field. I'm gonna put them at ten, Chiefs of eleven,

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Speaker 1: number nine the Bucks. Now their schedule gets tougher. The

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Speaker 1: fact that they have to go to the whistle to

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Speaker 1: beat the Falcons and the Jets does not feel great

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Speaker 1: coming up now with the Eagles and the Seahawks, the Lions,

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Speaker 1: the Niners coming up. They've been doing it though, missing

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Speaker 1: three offensive linemen and Chris Godwin. Baker Mayfield, like a

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, has established himself as a legit franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Eleven straight games with one hundred plus rushing yards. That

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Speaker 1: missing many top offensive linemen. I have the Bucks at nine,

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Speaker 1: number eight, the Niners at eight. Maybe it's a bit high.

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones is the current starter now Bosa is gone

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Speaker 3: for the year. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsall has emerged as a really nice weapon. Two

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Speaker 1: of their wins, though, are against the Cardinals at home

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Speaker 1: and the Saints, and they don't have a buy until

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Speaker 1: week fourteen. This team could use a buye now, but

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Speaker 1: the coach, the quality of offense, McCaffrey, Pearsall kittles coming back.

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Speaker 1: I put him at eight number seven. Here's what we

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Speaker 1: learned about the Lions. If you have new coordinators, don't

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Speaker 1: count the preseason, the Hall of Fame game or Week

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Speaker 1: one since then, nine hundred total yards last night was

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Speaker 1: not as close as the score indicated. Jamiir Gibbs and

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Speaker 1: that defensive front gobbled up Lamar Jackson. They are twelve

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Speaker 1: and two in primetime games, beating the best Monday Night

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Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are a handful Kenneth Walker highest

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Speaker 1: it does look like JSN is a number one receiver,

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Speaker 1: But it's the defense that makes them the second best

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Speaker 1: credit goes to John Snyder, the GM who has had

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Speaker 3: Their defense is.

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Speaker 1: Young, inexpensive, and excellent most sacks in the NFL. Offense

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Speaker 1: just gonna keep getting better. But they don't match up

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Speaker 1: The Chargers great red zone defense so when you can

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Speaker 1: a real deal. Keenan Allen, does this guy ever age?

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Speaker 1: Number two passing offense? They're asking more of Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: now he's getting hit way too much. But Quinton Johnson

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Speaker 1: Chargers at four. Number three Packers listen fewest yards per

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Speaker 1: it's his first pick in a regular season game in

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Speaker 3: It was a stinker. They came in flat, they.

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Speaker 1: Had extra days off, and Cleveland's got an excellent defense.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that worries me they're not running

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Speaker 1: the Packers still have a chance to Hoyt to Lombardi.

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Speaker 1: Number two Buffalo. It's almost crazy. Twenty five straight games

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Speaker 1: They've won the turnover battle right now over the last

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Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen games. Josh Allen's doing something that's hard

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Speaker 1: to do. You get all the upside and literally no turnovers.

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Speaker 1: They have the best Super Bowl odds. I don't love

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Speaker 1: their defense on the back end, but I don't like

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Speaker 1: number one. They have really bad halfs like this past weekend,

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Speaker 1: but it is the best roster in the league. They

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Speaker 1: But you know, Nick Seriani, I didn't get it, but

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Speaker 1: the team does. And Jalen Hurts maybe a little small,

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Speaker 1: but he throws well up the sideline, toughness and leadership,

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Speaker 1: best third and fourth down team in the league, best roster,

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Speaker 1: most aggressive GM. Here is the Herd hierarchy. I take

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Speaker 1: the Ravens over Kansas City Chiefs. That a love due

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Speaker 1: to the fact the Ravens are the road favorite, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's an offensive league and they've got an

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Speaker 1: first Things First Live, as he always does on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, what do you mean? Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 7: Well, Listen, I understand that the one in two Ravens,

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Speaker 7: who have made zero of the last six Super Bowls

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Speaker 7: a benefit of the doubt over the one and two Chiefs,

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Speaker 7: who have made five of the last six Super Bowls

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Speaker 7: and seven of the last seven AFC Championship games, because

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Speaker 7: of their champion. Because listen, if we know anything about Baltimore,

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Speaker 7: in January, and situationally, they're just buttoned up. They would

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Speaker 7: in a big game. So that's how you earn this

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Speaker 7: benefit of doubt to make the hierarchy at one and two.

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Speaker 7: I would ask you this, however, just not about Baltimore,

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Speaker 7: about Kansas City, just holistically. If you are a team

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Speaker 7: we can still agree Baltimore and Kansas City both are,

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Speaker 7: would you rather your big concern be on the offensive

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Speaker 7: where that all time great quarterback is sitting on the

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Speaker 7: sideline helpless. I would rather have the issues be on

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Speaker 7: offense because I feel like my quarterback can figure it out.

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Speaker 7: If you're Baltimore, it is really concerning now that the

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Speaker 7: defense for the first half of last year looked awful,

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Speaker 7: then it tightened up. This year, the defense has looked

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Speaker 7: really bad through two weeks. They got bullied last night,

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Speaker 7: and Lamar can't fix that for you. So I think, listen,

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Speaker 7: I think the af see you know, I'm not worried

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Speaker 7: I do think that they might have some systemic problems

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Speaker 7: on offense come January. But that's just because I've watched

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Speaker 7: the playoffs for the last decade. So I think the

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Speaker 7: Ravens are a little overvalued.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I will say in eight weeks, I think the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs would beat the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely do.

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Speaker 1: I think without worthy in Rashi Rice that I think

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Speaker 1: I think there are things in the last twenty Super

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead. I've said this in baseball can't win

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Speaker 1: a World Series with a bad bullpen. You don't even

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Speaker 1: you cannot have a bad bullpen. You cannot be bad

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Speaker 1: defensively today, this weekend, I think the Ravens probably better

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Speaker 1: in eight weeks, Rice Worthy, they won't be to your point? Now,

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Speaker 1: would you acknowledge though you don't show fear, but you

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Speaker 1: Can you can you acknowledge that the Chargers have seized

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Speaker 7: The foreseeable future. By foreseable future, you mean like the

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Speaker 7: next six or seven weeks. Sure, by the end of

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Speaker 7: the year. Let's see. Now there's a lot to unpack here.

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Speaker 7: One is I apologize. I was getting dressed, so I

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Speaker 7: didn't see the entirety of your justin Herbert interview. I'm

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Speaker 7: sure it was great, But did you apologize to him

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Speaker 7: for you losing all faith in this team's ability to

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Speaker 7: even make the playoffs due to the Rashaun Slater injury?

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Speaker 7: Did that come up at all that your love of

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Speaker 7: bo Nicks. By the way, did bo Nicks get vetoed

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Speaker 7: not so much regular season. However, we have something much

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Speaker 7: more important to discuss that I am going to surprise

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Speaker 7: time in our wonderful relationship, owe me an apology because

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Speaker 7: you are getting a lot of seemingly deserved run, even

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Speaker 7: a little heat for what appears to be a Colin

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Speaker 7: Coward original scorching take about Jim Harbaugh and where he

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Speaker 7: is in the coaching pantheon, to which I would say,

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Speaker 7: and this might be jarring to the audience because you're

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Speaker 7: about to see a shaved head thirty one year old

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Speaker 7: Nick Wright. Can we roll the tape of me from

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Speaker 7: August of twenty sixteen on your show filling in for

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Speaker 7: You about Jim Harbaugh nine years ago? Roll it please.

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Speaker 7: I think Jim harbol is the best football coach in

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Speaker 7: the world. I would rather have Jim Harball than Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 7: I would rather have Jim Harbaal Thanick Save. I would

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Speaker 7: rather have Jim Harbald than Urban Meyer. I would rather

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Speaker 7: have Jim Harbald than Mike Tomlin. I think he is

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Speaker 7: Mean, you're a decade late, buddy. Everybody's like, oh, going.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's an interesting thing about Josh Allen, Josh

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Speaker 3: So it's just harder in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we got so much show? Yeah left, we are

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Speaker 1: only halfway through it. Greg Olsen stopping by, thoughts on

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. I'm gonna have to be very supportive despite

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Speaker 1: losing for the Dallas Cowboys. Here in the next five minutes,

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Speaker 1: huge weekend to college football again. Greg Olsen stops by

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Speaker 1: Jamact with the news.

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Speaker 5: On the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 5: Love when we get some breaking news.

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Speaker 4: Colin Jackson Dart in at quarterback for the New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson woefully inept against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Boot off the field.

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Speaker 4: Enter Dart, who will start Sunday against the Charges.

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Speaker 5: I know it says minus six on the screen. I

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Speaker 5: had checked some Vegas books. It's starting to head up.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say this, Jackson Dart has a lot

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Speaker 4: of upside. Jesse Minter, the defensive coordinator of the Broncos,

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Speaker 4: has been amazing and last year facing rookie quarterback Bo Nix,

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Speaker 4: he put him in a body bag. Nicks could do nothing.

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Speaker 4: It was like twenty eight to nothing in the midway

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Speaker 4: through the fourth before some garbage time. I know it's

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Speaker 4: a cross country trip for the Chargers, and everybody's excited

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Speaker 4: that what were they for in the hurt hierarchy.

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Speaker 5: They're really good I would be.

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Speaker 4: Surprised if Jackson Dart was able to pull this off

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Speaker 4: and get the dub.

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Speaker 5: I like the Chargers here.

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Speaker 3: I like big favorites this weekend. I like the Packers.

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Speaker 3: I like the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: I know you could always you could tease them.

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Speaker 4: Do you do teasers in the.

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Speaker 7: In the pic?

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Speaker 1: I've never had because it feels like it's too much

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Speaker 1: for the average fan watching.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to know the average.

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Speaker 4: Fan is doing same game bars and lighting money on

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Speaker 4: fire Teesers are way safer than that. But anyways, I'm

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Speaker 4: optimistic to see dark But I mean, Colin, they don't

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Speaker 4: have a lot of dudes. Cam Scataboo was there, leading

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Speaker 4: receiver and rusher. Okay, the rookie from what asu right,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm worried about the kid Andrew Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Is he gonna be on a pitch count again?

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Speaker 5: The left tackle?

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Speaker 3: I think he's been on a career pitchcount.

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Speaker 4: We got some Russell Wilson stats here that are ghastly

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Speaker 4: in the red zone this season. Russell Wilson four of

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Speaker 4: eighteen for sixteen yards.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Colin, what the hell is that?

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's time to retire. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna have a market.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean basically an off season story.

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Speaker 4: Is Russell Wilson a Hall of Famer? You probably say no.

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Speaker 4: I will argue the other side because that's what we

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Speaker 4: do on the show. Let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: We gotta go back to last night's shocker. Detroit Lyons

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Speaker 4: beat the Ravens in Baltimore. Look at this Aiden Hutchison

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Speaker 4: punch out of Derrick Henry his second fourth quarter fumble

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Speaker 4: lost against Buffalo. It kind of flipped the game. And

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Speaker 4: last night was brutal. Here's Henry talking about his fumble.

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Speaker 4: Lightis lost of words.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she working, working in practice three games straight that

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Speaker 7: had in my.

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Speaker 4: Career fumbles in critical moments.

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Speaker 5: It was yeah, hanging good far I apologize so throught

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Speaker 5: Nason and I just was she working?

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Speaker 1: And the strips Listen, Adrian Peterson had a fumble problem.

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Speaker 1: Key Barber did at one point in his career.

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Speaker 5: But those guys were young. Henry's thirty one and turned

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Speaker 5: thirty two in Genuars.

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Speaker 1: Listen, he feels terrible, Like I have great sympathy for

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Speaker 1: people who screw up and feel terrible. Lamar Jackson looked

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Speaker 1: like he wasn't happy with him. Again, He's a great player.

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Speaker 1: He feels awful about it. And these punch outs, this

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Speaker 1: is like a thing now the last two to three years.

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Speaker 1: This is happening. The NFL doesn't love fumbles, they don't

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Speaker 1: love change of possessions. But I mean, there are certain

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Speaker 1: guys in this league that do it well and it's

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Speaker 1: become uh you see one to two a game, balls

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Speaker 1: knocked out, just punched out. I feel so bad for

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Speaker 1: the guy because he's so much about winning. He's he

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Speaker 1: has such a work ethic, he's such a committed guy.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Aidan Hutchinson last night was a monster.

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Speaker 3: Oh he was going.

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Speaker 4: He was dominant. You need to move him up the

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Speaker 4: edge rusher rankings if those exist. Final story, Collin, Let's

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Speaker 4: go to the first European trip of the season. We're

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Speaker 4: going to Ireland, Dublin. I have a funny Dublin joke,

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Speaker 4: but I won't tell it on air. Vikings Steelers Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: somehow is two and one. They got to be the

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Speaker 4: worst two and one team in the league. Terry Bradshaw

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Speaker 4: agrees he's in this team, does not does not have

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Speaker 4: championship pedigree.

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Speaker 9: They're not ever going to fire my comments if they continue.

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Speaker 9: They made the playoffs eighteen years and he wins, and

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Speaker 9: he'll go again nineteen years.

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Speaker 3: They don't have the team.

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Speaker 9: They're always competitive, but their their past being a contender.

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Speaker 9: They're not a contender. They're just they're just not from

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Speaker 9: what I've seen, they're not a contender. And they haven't

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Speaker 9: been in Wow, that had been a contender in five years.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean if you go last year, they beat

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Speaker 1: all the bad quarterbacks, then went zero and five down

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Speaker 1: the stretch.

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Speaker 3: They they have a.

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Speaker 1: This if you look at the offense and you're being honest,

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Speaker 1: New England completely outplayed them. I mean New England. It's

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Speaker 1: not every team that wins is the better team. New

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Speaker 1: England gave the game away. Now you could say, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers made great defensive plays. I mean Drake may

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Speaker 1: through a end zone interception that was probably the worst

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Speaker 1: interception of the year. I mean it was it was

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Speaker 1: on a short list of bad interceptions. So but you know,

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Speaker 1: they got a winning record. I think I like Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: I love Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, quick note, I think the Patriots had five turnovers

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Speaker 4: against the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: I remember the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Were in control of that game before the kick returner

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Speaker 4: fumbles to ended up cutting him Pittsburgh. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 4: this is not a good football team. I cannot wait

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Speaker 4: until these guys are cooked. And we stopped talking about

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers and the series.

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Speaker 3: The run is over.

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Speaker 4: Like Tomlin, great coach, hall of Famer, all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Rogers going to the Hall of Fame. They're just not fun.

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Speaker 4: Do you watch them?

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Speaker 5: Like Colin?

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Speaker 4: They are a boring team. They're not interesting at all.

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Speaker 4: I can't find any compelling reason to pay attention to

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Speaker 4: these guys except to wake up.

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Speaker 5: And bet against them.

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Speaker 4: Hey, real quick, Colin Brian Florees last year, remember the

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Speaker 4: international game against Rogers when he was on the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was brutal. Rogers couldn't do anything. So I

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Speaker 4: like the vikings here for sure.

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Speaker 3: I do too. J Mack with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd.

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Speaker 1: Line News Dallas Cowboys, and yes, Jerry Jones deserve a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit. Jerry was talking yesterday and I love

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Speaker 1: what he said.

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Speaker 3: That's next to hurt.

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Speaker 2: One more heard the Herd Streams twenty four hours a day,

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Speaker 4: Sunday on Fox, we've got two of the NFC's early

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Speaker 4: season best at Saquon and the defending champion Eagles tack

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Speaker 4: on Baker Mayfield in the Bus, or the Jags battle

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Speaker 4: Christian mccafrey and the Niners, or other regional action.

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Speaker 5: Check local listings for the game in your area, only

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Speaker 5: on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you make a business deal and you know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get beat up for a year, Like when the

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Speaker 1: Lakers traded Shack to Miami. The Heat were ready to

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Speaker 1: win a title. But in the big picture, the more

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Speaker 1: dedicated athlete, the more obsessed athlete who was had far

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Speaker 1: more prime years left was the late Kobe Bryant. It

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Speaker 1: was a good move by the Lakers, but you knew

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Speaker 1: you were going to get the you know what kicked

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Speaker 1: out of you for about a year or two because

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Speaker 1: the Heat were ready to win a title. So trading

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Speaker 1: Mike of to the Packers is bad news until April.

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Speaker 1: It'll be bad for the Dallas Cowboys. They're going to

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Speaker 1: get you know, Mike is going to play on TV.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have big games. The Packers are super

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Speaker 1: Bowl worthy. You're going to lose it for a year.

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Speaker 1: But you know what the Cowboys have now with multiple

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Speaker 1: first round picks for first round picks the next couple

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Speaker 1: of years, flexibility. Packers don't even have first round picks.

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Speaker 1: They got flexibility, financial flexibility, draft flexibility, and Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: said in the last couple of days he would even

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Speaker 1: think of trading one of those first round picks to

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Speaker 1: go get another current star player in the league.

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Speaker 10: To use that capital, you've got to have the opportunity

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Speaker 10: to use it. I had the opportunity to really do

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Speaker 10: some good with those picks, I would do it. You've

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Speaker 10: got to have something that comes your way that's really special,

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Speaker 10: and if you've got the currency to do it, which

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Speaker 10: in this case it would be draft picks, we'll do it.

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Speaker 1: I have seen in my life too many bosses that

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Speaker 1: make decisions trying to win the press conference and make

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Speaker 1: sure the media critics they don't come after us. Lack vision,

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Speaker 1: lack courage. I've been doing this thirty five years. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you're going to get whacked for a year when you

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Speaker 1: make a decision. Is it in the best long term

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Speaker 1: interest of the franchise. Mike is really good. You could

657
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Speaker 1: go draft the next Mica next year. But having four

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Speaker 1: first round picks, you could trade down, you could move

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Speaker 1: up because Dak's play is so strong right now, you

660
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Speaker 1: don't need a quarterback. So nothing better. And I think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to finish in the top seven

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Speaker 1: or eight picks. They're not a very good football team.

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Speaker 1: They're beat up with Ceedee, Lamb, Digs, not plan well,

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Speaker 1: Mike has gone.

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Speaker 3: It's not a very good team, not a very good

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Speaker 3: coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: So in the end, leverage flexibility that long term is

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Speaker 1: what all the great teams need, not a really good

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Speaker 1: pass rusher who clogs up a lot of your salary cap.

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Speaker 1: Props to Jerry for having the courage, not consumed, willing

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Speaker 1: to take the hit for a year until April. Jerry's

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00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: gonna get dug because Micah may have the big sack

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and every columnist will.

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Speaker 3: Riyeh, I doesn't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And then April comes around and the Packers don't have

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Speaker 1: our first round pick in and then the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: two and can leverage it into multiple other picks or

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Speaker 1: trade and get another good edge rusher, call the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: We'll take Max Crosby first. All right, Big college weekend.

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Speaker 1: And I noticed something about this Big College Weekend. Twenty

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Speaker 1: first rank, USC underrated at twenty three, Illinois probably a

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Speaker 1: little overrated. Number one, Ohio State at Washington, number six,

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Speaker 1: Oregon at number three, Penn State. Three very interesting college

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Speaker 1: games in the Big ten. Have you noticed anything about

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Speaker 1: those three games?

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Speaker 3: None of these games would.

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Speaker 1: Have existed just two years ago. Instead, you would have

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Speaker 1: had Washington hosting cow and you would have had Oregon

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Speaker 1: at Washington State or USC facing.

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Speaker 3: The Beavers. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: College football in my life has had two major problems,

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Speaker 1: A big game problem, two regional too many small games

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Speaker 1: that matter to a single state or maybe two. And

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Speaker 1: December was a wasteland of unwatchable bowl games that can't

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Speaker 1: sell tickets and have to give them away. Both of

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Speaker 1: those issues have been resolved. The late great John Madden

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00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: used to say, certain games sound big. Niners against the

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00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: Packers regardless of record, sounds big Eagles, Cowboys regardless of record.

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Speaker 3: Ohas sounds big.

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Speaker 1: You know what sounds big Ohio State at Husky Stadium.

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Speaker 1: That sounds big, even Ohio State's a lot better. You

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00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: know it sounds big. Oregon at Penn State and USC

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00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: red hot, most sacks in the country, number one offense

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Speaker 1: against a team in the Midwest. That sounds big or

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Speaker 1: big error than Cal and Washington at Husky Stadium. So

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Speaker 1: I am for tradition when it's great, like explosives on

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Speaker 1: Fourth of July.

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00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: I like fireworks or Christmas.

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to convince me that eliminating the

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Speaker 1: classic Stanford against Arizona State football game every October is

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Speaker 1: bringing me to the emotional cliff. Too many people love

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Speaker 1: tradition when tradition's not that special. Yes, Thanksgiving dinner is, yes,

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Speaker 1: Christmas is fireworks.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: There are certain holidays that are big. Michigan, Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: Duke Carolina, and basketball. We all agree. But major League

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00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Baseball needed tweaks. They did it, and the ratings are up,

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Speaker 1: and college football was incredibly regional. And then they combined

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Speaker 1: the four big names in the Pac twelve moving to

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Speaker 1: the Midwest, and I'm getting a lot more big game.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was on an hour ago. He can't wait

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Speaker 1: for Oregon Penn State.

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Speaker 11: I always make time to watch Oregon, you know, growing

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Speaker 11: up a Duck fan playing there, you know, it's been

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Speaker 11: so fun to watch them play. And you know, I

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Speaker 11: think that's kind of the cool thing about going to

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Speaker 11: the Big ten and playing all these these fun teams,

728
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Speaker 11: as you're gonna go to the East Coast and you're

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Speaker 11: gonna have some big games, and you know, not always

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Speaker 11: was that the case in the Pac twelve. And you know,

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Speaker 11: I know that Ducks are really excited, and you know,

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Speaker 11: Eugene is loving it too, So it's really cool to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and for the record, Ohio State may run Washington

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Speaker 1: out of the building. I think it'll be pretty close.

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Speaker 1: College teams when they go on the road aren't quite

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Speaker 1: as powerful. Ohio State will win. Maybe it'll be ugly,

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Speaker 1: but it feels big. Oregon Penn State should be great.

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Speaker 1: That feels massive. But USC and on NOI it feels big.

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Speaker 1: I mean, USC last year struggled against non traditional powers

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Speaker 1: on the road, struggled, lost to Maryland, lost in Minnesota,

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00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: so it actually feels really big. It's the first time USC,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, beat LSU last year, beat Texas

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Speaker 1: A and M last year. I think they've won like

744
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Speaker 1: six of their last seven. They're on like a four

745
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Speaker 1: five game winning streak something like that. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the second longest winning streak in the Big ten. So,

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Speaker 1: but it's I'm not anti tradition, but you know what

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Speaker 1: electric vehicles. When I lived in Los Angeles and didn't

749
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Speaker 1: have to go to a gas station where the gas

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Speaker 1: prices got as high.

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Speaker 3: As six fifty, I know, you like that V eight.

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Speaker 3: I understand it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not against it, but I kind of liked an

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Speaker 1: EV where I plug it in at night and never

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Speaker 1: have to go to a gas station and it doesn't

756
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Speaker 1: make a lot of noise, and it's quiet, and it's

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00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: fast and it's zero to sixty and one second. I

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Speaker 1: kind of like that too. Not every tradition is great.

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Speaker 1: A massive weekend in college football, you know, j meck

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Speaker 1: I got to go back. I want to go back

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys and Jerry Jones saying I made trade

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Speaker 1: one of those first round picks for a players. If

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Speaker 1: you go look at the Cowboys the last three years,

764
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Speaker 1: the one thing, I mean, they were a good offensive team,

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Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, they had exciting players, But the

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Speaker 1: one thing the Cowboys lacked didn't have any flexibility. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't pay eight million dollars for Dereck Henry when they

768
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Speaker 1: had the worst running back room in the league. And

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has always been this deal maker. So basically,

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Speaker 1: you had the world's best poker player and he didn't

771
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Speaker 1: have any He had no leverage and no flexibility. Dallas

772
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Speaker 1: is going to get crushed. If Green Bay wins the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and they have a very good chance to

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Speaker 1: do that, they're gonna be one hundred anti Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 3: It's the worst trade ever.

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Speaker 1: And that's fine, But come April, when you don't need

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, have two first round picks. The Rams do

778
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Speaker 1: they need a quarterback? Browns do they need a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Dallas is going to be in unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Shape in April.

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Speaker 5: Spare me, Bro.

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Speaker 4: Listen, It's not like Dallas is one player away from contending.

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Speaker 5: I mean, their defense cannot get out. I'm looking at

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Speaker 5: some EPA.

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Speaker 4: Numbers here, Bro, their second worst defense in the league, Colin,

786
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Speaker 4: They're so far away from contending. And you outline this

787
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Speaker 4: at the top when we talked about quarterbacks in the AFC,

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Speaker 4: you pay them and all of a sudden, the rest

789
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: of the roster stinks that's the Cowboys. They're the Bengals

790
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: of the NFC, and now CD lambs out. So you

791
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 4: got Dak and petulant Carl pick now Carl Pickens, George

792
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Speaker 4: Pickens and a.

793
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Speaker 3: Running back room.

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00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 4: That's eh, your setter's out what four to six weeks? Dude,

795
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Speaker 4: they're not even close to contending. They Washington who got

796
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Speaker 4: snubbed in your hurt hierarchy. By the way, they.

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Speaker 1: Ringers had the worst defense in the league. Then they

798
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Speaker 1: hired the right coach and the same guys, same player.

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Speaker 1: If you had an elite coaching staff, not Brian Schottenneimer

800
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Speaker 1: and Matt Eberflus, it looks even worse because of the staff.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbugh, Jesse Minter took a defense that was thirty

802
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Speaker 1: second to first, the same guys. I'm not saying they

803
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Speaker 1: have a both and the Khalil Mack coaching matters. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: don't have the