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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: And we continue now a part two of our conversation

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Speaker 1: with Jakoda Meyer. Right after these brief messages from our

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Speaker 1: generous sponsors. You and I have a I don't want

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Speaker 1: to put words in your mouth, but we have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a similar background. And then my dad

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Speaker 1: left when I was young and had no relationship with him.

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Speaker 1: He died recently, still no relationship. Mom was smart and

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Speaker 1: hard working and always managed to figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to keep a roof over my head, and he fed

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Speaker 1: and clothed. But there wasn't a whole lot of consistency

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Speaker 1: there in terms of men in my life. My mom

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Speaker 1: was married and divorced five times. My fourth daddy shot

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Speaker 1: at me down a hallway one day and I had

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Speaker 1: to dive out a window. I don't know that you

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Speaker 1: had that traumatic of an upbringing, but I think I

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Speaker 1: understand your story to be. Y'all bounced around a lot,

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Speaker 1: you and your mom and this guy ain't big Mike

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Speaker 1: was briefly one of your mother's husbands. Yeah, And at eleven,

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Speaker 1: she said, look, I think the code would be better

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Speaker 1: with you and basically said Mike's your dad. I'm out.

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Speaker 1: And Big Mike didn't see that as a burden. He

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Speaker 1: saw it as an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when you said about right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean when you look it, and my dad has sacrificed

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Speaker 2: his whole life taking care.

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Speaker 1: Of Big Mike. Is your dad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean look at look, here's the deal

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Speaker 2: is The reality is is just because your blood doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean your family, right like, just because your blood or

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Speaker 2: you know, titles are earned, they're not given. And the

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Speaker 2: title Dad is the most like is something that's earned, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: there's difference between a sperm donor and a dad.

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Speaker 1: So tell me about big mind and something about how

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Speaker 1: he supported your greatness.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, I mean my dad he gave consistency, Like,

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Speaker 2: he helped me accountable. He taught me what a work

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Speaker 2: ethic was. He taught me to you know one thing,

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Speaker 2: my dad always was very and my dad is the

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Speaker 2: hardest working you know the I mean, listen, he doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't live his life based off the court of

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Speaker 2: public opinions. My dad lives his life based off his

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Speaker 2: foundations of what he believes is right and what's the

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Speaker 2: right thing to do for the greater good. And you

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Speaker 2: know that that was just the way we grew up.

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Speaker 2: Work hard, you do what's right, you know you And

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Speaker 2: I think when I think of one word of my

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Speaker 2: dad and my grandfather and and and my uncle, the

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Speaker 2: men in my life, the core men, you know, the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing that that they ever really instilled in me

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Speaker 2: was was legacy. And and when you talk about legacy,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's what and not not necessarily like

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Speaker 2: in this type of communication, but just through their actions,

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Speaker 2: was was that name represents a lot of people. Our

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Speaker 2: last name represents a lot lot of people. And when

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Speaker 2: you go out there and you better live and you

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Speaker 2: better represent it of what a Meyer is. And that

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Speaker 2: legacy is important because a lot of men have fought

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Speaker 2: to build the reputation that a Meyer has and you

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Speaker 2: better protect that and you better honor it, and you

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Speaker 2: better live up to it every single day.

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Speaker 1: Big Mike was an engineer and a cow farmer. How's

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Speaker 2: So he was so my grandfather was the engineer. My

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Speaker 2: dad went to college, he went to the UK. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what he got a degree in, but he was.

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Speaker 2: He also worked for a company called Southern States right,

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Speaker 2: which is like a tractor supply. It's a co op.

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Speaker 2: And you know, my dad ran that and and that's

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Speaker 2: a forty job at least. And the way my dad

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Speaker 2: did it the right way was sixty hours. My dad

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Speaker 2: was the first one in there every day, and he

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: And that's the way my dad did everything. If my

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Speaker 2: do it the right way. He didn't have asked anything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was what he instilled in us, was like,

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Speaker 2: finishing what you start. When you look at all these ethos,

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Speaker 2: I mean, these were uncompromisable ways of life no matter what.

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Speaker 1: So after that then he came home, put on overalls

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Speaker 2: Cows another forty hours. Yeah, I mean that's that's my dad,

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Speaker 2: my dad. My work ethic that I have, like if

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Speaker 1: So if one of the guys that supported your greatness

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Speaker 1: early on is big Mike ak Dad, the one word

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, building a legacy. Who else, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean a ton of people, right, I mean it takes

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Speaker 2: you take the teachers, you know, the coaches, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I would say, like the next person that was

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Speaker 2: was was a guy named he is now sergeant major,

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Speaker 2: but but soguez uh you know, he was a he

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Speaker 2: in the in the Marine Corps Souez. So he was

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Speaker 2: is now it's it's sergeant major Soto.

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Speaker 1: But is that is that Sergeant Wan Rodriguez.

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Speaker 2: That was a guy who was with.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about him.

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Speaker 2: You know, this guy was you know he he believed

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Speaker 2: helped teach me lessons and learning.

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Speaker 1: And he was were you working under him?

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Speaker 2: Worked in Hawaii, So he was my sniper platoon sergeant

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Speaker 2: got it and and really just he poured into me

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Speaker 2: All the lessons that I have as a leader were

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Speaker 2: that was a do as I do now as I say,

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Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, Like he wasn't the lead.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's two types of leadership do as I like,

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Speaker 2: And he was the do as I do? Right, He

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Speaker 1: Did did? Was he a sniper two? He was? So

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Speaker 1: you do that training in Hawaii? Yeah that's so bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go do it.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Marine Corps has a way of making

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Speaker 1: You know, that's called preparation. If Sergeant Rodriguez, if there's

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Speaker 2: Selflessness?

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Speaker 1: Selflessness? I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy is one of the most I mean selflessness.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a little bit bragging about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, special Tanna Ratlast Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: my daughter's with me no matter what. I can't There's

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Speaker 2: It's just you can try, you can say you can

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Speaker 2: you know, really that really showed what she teach?

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Speaker 3: Did you know she was a special AD teacher?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: So, and I I volunteered in her class?

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Speaker 2: And I volunteered in her class.

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Speaker 1: You came around. Man, high school kids don't typically want

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Speaker 2: I think that people who so people who have been hurt,

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Speaker 2: And if you want to know where it drives from,

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Speaker 2: don't want to do confrontation, Like if it's if somebody

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Speaker 2: that's where early on it drove from.

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Speaker 1: Is is you know, just being dragged around by a

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Speaker 2: Well not just that, but the evil of some of

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: I haven't talked about it much, but I mean elementary school,

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Speaker 2: Like I still remember, you know, the fourth grade was

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Speaker 2: But the fourth grade there's a couple guys that I

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Speaker 2: not whether they knew it or not, but how evil

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sailor, Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah what you said. You wanted.

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Speaker 2: intentional thoughts, intentional conversations of trying to accomplish something. And

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Speaker 2: They're just having doing to do and without any intentions.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, when you look at this, how

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Speaker 2: you treat think about this, how you treat your wife,

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Speaker 2: and how you build and your you keep your house

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Speaker 2: in order, and you living with that intention of hey, howe,

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Speaker 2: how I talk to my wife in this situation that

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Speaker 2: the secondary and tertiary effects of that to your grandchildren,

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Speaker 2: you will I mean, the stuff the problems we're dealing

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Speaker 2: generations and that and we're just dealing with all of it.

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Speaker 2: And you have a choice when something we're all, none

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Speaker 2: of us are getting out of this life unscathed of bad, trauma, hurt, pain,

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Speaker 2: that's part. That's part of the world. The world is painful.

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Speaker 2: But you got one or two options. You can either

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Speaker 2: take that pain in, process it, get through it, learn

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Speaker 2: from it and help others with it and turn it

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Speaker 2: into good, or you'll pass it on.

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Speaker 1: Once again, good versus evil? What wins?

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Speaker 2: What wins good versus evil Dakota.

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Speaker 1: I could spend easily three hours, have a beer break

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Speaker 1: and spend three or four hours with you and cut

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Speaker 1: up some really, really read well burnt meat. And I

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Speaker 1: wish we had the time to time Aman. I hope so,

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Speaker 1: But I do want to I do want to say this.

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Speaker 1: I sit across from a lot of people every week

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Speaker 1: and one of the biggest regrets in my life is

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Speaker 1: I did not serve my country in the military, and

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Speaker 1: almost did, and I didn't. I wish I could. I

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Speaker 1: honestly do wish that I could look you in the

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Speaker 1: eye and tell you I understand. And I can't. But

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Speaker 1: what I can do is listen and learn and be

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Speaker 1: inspired by And I am by you and your brothers

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Speaker 1: and all of those who have fallen for our freedoms.

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Speaker 1: And your story is incredibly phenomenal. But as we think

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Speaker 1: about that greatness, and as we think about your story,

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Speaker 1: and as we think about the heroism of you and

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Speaker 1: the people that served alongside you, and we think about

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Speaker 1: the fact that we sleep well at night because men

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Speaker 1: like you are on the wall, I think it's really

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Speaker 1: important to talk about that legacy that you were talking about,

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Speaker 1: and that legacy goes back to who supported you to

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Speaker 1: get to a point like this to be so inspirational

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Speaker 1: for us. And when we talk about Big Mike, your

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Speaker 1: dad and what he taught you about legacy. And Soto Rodriguez,

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Speaker 1: a sniper platoon sergeant and structor who who taught you

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Speaker 1: how to lead by actions and taught you about selflessness.

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Speaker 1: And your teacher, Miss Tanner, who was a special edge

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Speaker 1: teacher who taught you about empathy and showed you to

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Speaker 1: stand up for the weakest among us. And then your

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Speaker 1: daughters teaching about love and accountability to fatherhood, and then

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Speaker 1: guys like Tim and Shawn and Juan and Brandon and

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Speaker 1: Lance who talked to you about love but brotherly love

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Speaker 1: and acountability and all of these fundamentals and tenants that

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Speaker 1: comprise the man that you are. I just think it

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Speaker 1: needs to remind us that at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: even the greatest among us are who they are and

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Speaker 1: was supported by an army and normal folks, just normal

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Speaker 1: folks doing what they could for you, and the power

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Speaker 1: of that army even in your life as you and

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Speaker 1: the power of your army create freedoms for our lives. So, dude,

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Speaker 1: the lessons for you the lessons from you and the

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Speaker 1: lessons too, and sharing him with us today. I just

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Speaker 1: can't thank you enough. And I really would like to

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Speaker 1: have about seven more hours with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh h no, listen, thank you, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for having me, like, what an awesome thing up. And

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Speaker 2: I'll say, it's like, you know, don't regret anything, and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because to say that you would

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Speaker 2: change one thing means that you're saying you would change

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Speaker 2: what you're doing today, and to change one thing changes everything.

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Speaker 2: You don't know, you might not be able to be

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Speaker 2: here to tell the stories of David, of myself, of

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Speaker 2: all these other people, all these people who are listening

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Speaker 2: to you. Anytime you live with regret, that regret is

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Speaker 2: holding space for things that you could be doing to

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Speaker 2: help others, and it's not serving anything that you're trying

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Speaker 2: to do. Right, I've lived my whole life. I live

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Speaker 2: a lot lot of life with regret, and I don't

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Speaker 2: do it anymore. You not serving, it's probably there's probably

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Speaker 2: a reason for it, right, And what you're doing today

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Speaker 2: to still give back and to still tell the stories

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Speaker 2: of people is probably way more impactful on the greater

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Speaker 2: good communities than your service and uniform ever could have.

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Speaker 2: So I think we while we might while were none

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Speaker 2: of us, most of us aren't where we wanted to

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Speaker 2: be or where we thought we should be. I think

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Speaker 2: we're all where we're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, I really do. But telling stories and

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Speaker 1: winning the medal of honor two completely different things that

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Speaker 1: we could argue about that over here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Toakota, Thanks so much. Have safe travels wherever they were

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Speaker 1: you headed.

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Speaker 2: I'm head back to Austin and Miami in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you the demands on you big?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, anytime I can be busy and anytime

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Speaker 2: I can go remind people, I'll tell you people need

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Speaker 2: hope right now, any to help the world. Every room

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Speaker 2: you walk into, people are struggling with something, people are

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Speaker 2: worried about something. The world needs hope right now. They

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Speaker 2: need to be reminded that the reality of there today

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Speaker 2: isn't the reality of their forever. And so you know,

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Speaker 2: we got to remind people it's still worth going out

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Speaker 2: and doing the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Dakota Meyer, God blessing God speak, thank you and thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us this week. If Dakota Meyer or

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Speaker 1: other guests have inspired you in general, or better yet,

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Speaker 1: by joining the military, supporting some want in your life,

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Speaker 1: to help them achieve the greatness that they're called to achieve,

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Speaker 1: or something else entirely. Please let me know I'd love

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Speaker 1: Bill at normalfolks dot us, and I promise I will respond.

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