WEBVTT - New Orleans Aftermath & The Rose Bowl, Plus Ignoring Your DMs With Jason Kidd 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.320 So Jay, you played against them both. Okay, let's settle 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.840 this now. Who's the greatest of all time? Is Lebron 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:05.559 or is it m J? 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:06.440 Man? 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:07.080 What's hand him? 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.600 Man? You got Marshaw Besmall Lynch. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.360 Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knew someone. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.040 You're listening to politics, you're knowing to be you known 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:27.160 to be my Shaan. You were down at the Rose 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.880 ball right, yeah you went? I mean did you guys? 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.000 Were you even aware of what happened in New Orleans 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:33.720 around the same time a little bit earlier? 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.120 God damn, Like, what the fuck going up? See? 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.960 Look they got some of that fucking with of that ship, 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:43.320 and my fucker started going crazy. Okay, them is them 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.120 is American people on American soil. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.800 Correct. The guy was from Texas. Uh, he was here 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.159 legally serving in the army and the ore uh and 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.640 uh for our military and uh and and so did 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:56.880 the guy in Vegas as well. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.959 When I say when I say y'all, I don't mean 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:00.600 like you. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.120 I'm just saying like because you you know, you were 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.040 part of the government. 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:07.479 I don't know, man, do. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.040 You go and talk to them motherfuckers and be like 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.640 giving them speeches and shit too. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.720 Well, one thing we did talk right after the incident occurred, 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.760 our Office of Emergency Services reached out because we were 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.200 concerned that those things were connected, and there was a 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:24.119 lot of evidence in the early part of the investigation 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.320 that was the case. They both had served in the 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.200 similar military base, both were vets, both went to the 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.960 same car service, and both rented cars, different vehicles, different locations. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.000 But there was concern that this was coordinated all across 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.760 the country, and that concern extended to California, and so 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.040 we put together our Office Emergency Service. We had a 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.080 quick meeting and we were sharing intelligence information and there 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.360 was early concern, just full disclosure that they absolutely were connected. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.360 It was, to your point, a little coincidental. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.200 But did they come from it because I want to say, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.800 I heard that they came from the same base. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.760 Yeah, they had served in the same base as well, 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.720 So I mean a lot of those things. If that, 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.640 I mean, that's next level coincidence. But on the basis 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.079 of what we've been told so far and what I've 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.239 been told as well, that there isn't at this moment, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.600 again the investigations in its early stages, any evidence to 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.640 bear that out. But one thing was of concern and 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.960 Marshanos where you were, Uh, well, you may not have 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.600 been concerned about it at the time. You were at 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.440 the game down there at the rose Ball, and there 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.480 was concern this maybe because the proximity in in New 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.440 Orleans that there was concern about other large scale events 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.200 and particularly the rose Ball. And so we had assess 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.280 in real time, uh, based upon the intelligence and then 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.320 what the FBI was providing us, whether or not it 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.000 was safe to continue govin. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.120 It's just like, is this like Armageddon where there's thousand 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.120 TVs and there's phones and there's there's like analysts. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:52.880 Is this is this? Is this the room you're in? 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:53.280 No? 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.919 If I, well, that's the route I wasn't. I wasn't 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.880 up in Sacramento at the time. So it's the obvious 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.880 emergency service and that what they call the stack, which 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:04.120 is back. Basically, it's a state emergency center. And it 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.840 looks exactly like you you would see and exactly as 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.680 you described. I mean, it looks like sort of a 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.680 mini NASA center with screens everywhere and data and. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.600 And and people drinking cokes and candy and Red bulls. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.720 All of the above, and all the law enforcement, all 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.880 the different agencies coming together in federal local states. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.080 So they'll hit you and they're like, okay, so they 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.239 let you know that they're gonna take precaution and ship right. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.120 So yeah, what what does that look like? Because I'm 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.880 because now I don't. I don't. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:41.640 I don't think I got that much pool. Yeah, I mean, 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.720 I wouldn't say that I'm one of them guys. But 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.200 when I got to the game, right, yeah, I mean 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:58.520 I drive up and the driver tell the people like, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.720 oh yeah, uh no, we're just. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:02.200 Gonna go in here. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.400 I'm gonna just drop him off, you know, and they like, 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.560 what you mean you're gonna drop him off? But oh yeah, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.640 I got one of the uh you know, one of 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.200 the guys in here, and they let us in and 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.839 they let us right where the team buses. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.760 Was no security check, nothing. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:24.400 No, I mean, no credentials, and I meant, get my 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.720 fucking ticket. I'm telling you, I'm calling, Uh, I'm calling 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.120 Doug at the. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.599 Date you had a regular Huber driver or something. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.320 Yeah, I'm just saying I'm calling Doug at the gate like, hey, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.880 what's up with a ticket and something? 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.960 You feel me like, I'm good? 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.159 Walking back behind where the where the team busses at 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.320 you know what I mean, family bus, team bus where 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.920 we because that's where we used to come in when uh, 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.839 when we played at the Rose Bowl. And then when 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.039 you think and you're like, yeah, okay, we debrief with 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.400 the FBI, they saying this, we takeing uh precaution and shit. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:05.520 And then you say, well, how the fuck do you 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.279 go and do some crazy shit like this, blase whatever. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.239 Then you've got all this new technology and all these 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.720 security measures, and then you know, you just come up 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:20.680 in an unmarked car with an unmarked, unmarked celebrity. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.200 And you get to the fucking team bus. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.120 Is like, no, you're exposing a weakness. I mean, by 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:27.839 the way, it's not just the weakness that a rose 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.240 ball as an example, it's a perfect example your example. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.120 But remember Doug a few years ago, right after nine 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.120 to eleven, we're out there at the super Bowl and 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.760 you're walking in without tickets, bringing five or say. It 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.960 was supposed to be the most secure super Bowl in history, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.560 and we walked in. There's only a couple of us 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.640 with tickets. I was like, why who? These folks behind 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.000 us didn't even have damn tickets. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.120 They follow the train follow by the way. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.600 Sean, how about the security that didn't exist for Doug 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.120 and I to go down at the Super Bowl your 0:05:56.160 --> 0:06:00.000 Super Bowl for me? You in the locker room. Neither 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.640 of us had credentials, Neither of us were supposed to 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.200 go down there. We didn't have law enforcement. We just 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.720 went down on the power of persuasion, Doug's persuasion in 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:09.279 this case. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.720 That's school grades right there. 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.200 Got Yeah, so you got emotional intelligence, if you know, 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.680 based upon the lack of historical dinosaur intelligence. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:20.560 By the way, we were rocking. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.599 I was rocking right past Belichick after you won, and 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.360 we could you know, I mean, you're right, there's no 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.680 security down there. But anyways, Morshawn, that's a great valid point, Gavin. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.600 So all this army, geddon studios and stuff, how come 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.599 there's no more people on the ground. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.960 Everybody's you know, people have to step up their game. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.279 And look, had he had the the the president elect 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.599 almost get assassinated. That's the bad security in the world. So, 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.320 I mean, this is this whole area, this this this 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:51.800 is only highlighted, uh the profound importance of focusing on 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.480 security across the spectrum. And look, the big thing now. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.599 Obviously after what happened a couple of days ago in 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.640 New Orleans, you got the super Bowl coming up in 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.400 New Orleans, you got other large scale amount I was. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.960 Just I was just thinking about that, like, okay, if 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.760 you do this with super Bowl in a month maybe 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:09.440 a month away. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:10.200 Yeah. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.280 The sad thing here, Marshaan is is the I was 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.200 talking to Cam Jordan, one of my clients in the 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.400 Saints we all know, uh, and I asked him how 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.520 New Orleans was doing right now. He said, literally, it 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.720 was almost like nothing happened. We're numb to this Gavin 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.720 right now. And that's a sad thing. Let's put this 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.040 in context. This guy ran his car over fifteen, killed 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.760 fifteen people, injured thirty five people, and literally, I think 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.080 the bar is state it was almost like we're numb 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.600 to the fact, which is the scary part. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:38.280 No really yet. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.360 Yeah, the Notre Dame Georgia game, you know, shortly thereafter 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.040 and everybody's back to your point, I mean, which, look, 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:45.960 we have to move forward. So I mean I appreciate 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.200 the resilience. That's a great mindset in terms of you know, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.239 just being empowered and emboldened and not being sidetracked because 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.040 that was the intention of this. It wasn't just the victims, 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.080 those direct victims. It was impact. It was to create 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.560 these conversations that we're having out more anxiety about who 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.559 we are and our ability to live in advance together. 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.240 But so I thought that's important. But your point is 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:08.920 the point you do get numb by. I mean these 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.560 mass shootings, we've gotten numbed by it. I'm still, by 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.880 the way, not over in Marshaun boy. One of these 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.560 days I should share it with you in appropriate setting 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.320 the Buffalo shooting, and you know you played in Buffalo. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.520 But and the reason I bring it up in the 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.400 football context, this is a young kid with two parents 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.200 that said on the spectrum he was pretty progressive guy. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.720 Wasn't a conservative guy. He says, my parents were amazing parents. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.560 People liked me. I wasn't bullied. I was a good 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.160 student in high school. And he literally does a Q 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.720 and A of what he did. He basically asks every 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.800 question you would have as to why the hell did 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.360 he kill all these innocent people in a grocery store, 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.400 why he targeted the black community, and he goes through it. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.640 There's page after page, dozens and dozens of pages of 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.559 every conceivable question you can ask as to why, and 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:07.080 he rationally ratches it up his sort of his capacity 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.480 to understand as he went to your point, deeper and 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.640 deeper into darkness of the internet, and he said he 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.360 got clarity and light and started to understand, you know, 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.400 and the anti Semitism was next level, and then the 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.960 black community starts, and then he starts getting into birth rates, 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:31.600 and then all this insane stuff except rationally insane that 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.080 led him to the act. And the challenge for me 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.760 reading that is why the hell hasn't everybody right not 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.160 reading that to understand what's going on? Why isn't that 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.720 shared with with people in positions of power that it's 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.560 not shared with law enforcement? It is I talked to 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.959 every elected official. I've not met one other elected official 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.000 that read that. And by the way, it almost is 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:55.240 verbatim the christ Church guy down in New Zealand that 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.640 he was, by the way, inspired by It's a contagion 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.719 that persists and exists and continues to this day. It's 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.760 not a one off event, just like this may not 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.280 be a one off event. The fear is this sort 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.520 of isis inspired event. And by the way, they have 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:15.360 a playbook for precisely this kind of activity, meaning how 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.240 you persist with a car and how you go into 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.200 crowds and then what happens if your car stops. I mean, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.880 they literally lay out a toolkit for doing these things. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.960 So it's a legitimate concern, is the point. But my 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.360 concern is Doug's point, which is we tend to move on, 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.599 turn the page, and there's a normalization of what I 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.800 would say of deviancy, meaning we've normalized the abnormal, and 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:45.000 we've become to numb, and we're starting to accept stuff 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.360 in the past we would never accept. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.319 We're joined by a Hall of Fame, a top seventy 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.120 five player of all time, a ten time All Star, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.959 NBA champ, epic career with your Cal bearsmore Shawn an 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:13.680 Oakland Bay Area kid, two gold medals, okay, and one 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.160 of the most iconic people and players of all time, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:17.200 Jay Kidd. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:18.839 Jason, Welcome to politicket. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.600 What's happening? How you guys saving Jason? 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.000 You didn't even get into his high school stats twenty five, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.200 ten and seven. Doug, You didn't even know that, did you? Doug? 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.559 And I did know that. I used to go to 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.440 Jason's games back in the day. More gay me. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.440 Just say, did did you have your bs? You remember 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.120 him there? Jason? You never saw a doug in the stands, man, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:37.600 did you? 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.040 I didn't see Dougie in the stands. I was too 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.120 focused on my opponent. Nah, you would have. No, you 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:43.400 would have. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:44.960 You would have noticed him. I'm sorry. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.679 If he was at any of the games, you would 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:52.120 have noticed me. Wild ass white boy on the Why 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.560 is he on the court? 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.679 What the fuck is this dude talking to me at 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.560 the free throw mam? Hey, Nah, you gotta get back 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:00.800 in the stand. No, you can't. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.880 Just want to, by the way, what everybody needs to understand. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.560 And you know this, Gavin Morshawn, you weren't even probably 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:07.040 born yet. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:07.560 You were younger. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.680 But if there was n I l and there was 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.520 social media back in Jason Kid's days and Saint Joe's 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:14.520 forget about it. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.920 It was it was he was getting money. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.960 It only had a sandwich. They had a turkey sandwich 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.839 in there. There was no green, There was no money 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.760 in there was just no you have some lettuce and 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.440 some broccoli. In that time, we had a little bit 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:29.560 of extra you know. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.480 Uh say it ain't so say it ain't so, See, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.600 Jason is going to be careful when the responding of that, Marshall. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:39.840 I think, anna pass. 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.880 Yeah, I think it's great for the sports of college 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.720 to be able to get paid. Unfortunately, Uh, Marshaun and 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.320 myself were not able to get paid. 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.400 Uh we had to wait to become professionals. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.360 But Jason, seriously, I mean, do you I mean, is 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:00.280 this because I we Doug knows as well. I'm the 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.880 first nil bill in the United States. I did it 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:03.839 down with Lebron down. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.200 You ain't gonna let nobody miss that. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.600 Huh No, But no, I say it no with humility 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:15.240 and recognition. This is not what I expected that. This 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.960 is not And this was only a few years ago. Yes, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.680 I mean the whole transfer portal. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.960 That portal came and changed everything. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.800 Everything changed. I mean, so as a coach, I'm wondering, Jason, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.880 how does I mean, how do you? I mean just 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.080 the whole I mean, obviously you're not dealing directly with 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.000 it necessarily now, though the indirect impacts I imagine are 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.080 pretty pronounced. But from a coaching perspective, I mean, you 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.640 see these college players, dougs, dougs now in the nil business, 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.680 as a as a as an agent, How the hell 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.560 do you build a culture? How do you how do 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.320 you lead an organization? I need great an organization, billbo. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.800 I think what you did by signing that, recognizing that 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.840 you were the first to sign that is congratulations because 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.760 you were ahead of the game. I just think we 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:59.880 needed some bumpers, some kind of guidance, some rules, another committee. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.240 So because now they didn't think about the portal, the 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:08.560 portal has changed the game. You're recruiting. If someone scores, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.240 you're recruiting. When he scores a touchdown or two points. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:17.240 You are recruiting your same players and you can't treat 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.480 them any differently because the portal is so wide open. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.320 But now you've got to understand there's other coaches recruiting 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.760 your own players while they're playing. And so yeah, it's tough. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.920 This is this is this is this is something that 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.080 has to be looked at where we don't affect the 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.600 business of money. I understand that, but I think the 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.440 recruiting if someone is playing quarterback and the other coach 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.680 is recruiting that quarterback, it's just not fair. And so 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.640 also we're teaching our kids, uh to go to the 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.560 highest bidder, and so I think there's got to be 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.240 a rule and I'm just guessing like a two year contract. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.400 If the coach does leave, you have opportunity to leave. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.720 But I think, again, we're signing these kids out of 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.280 high school. We're making a millionaires, which is great, but 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.160 is there some guidance of one how to keep that 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.840 money and two how to build that culture. I think 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.040 that's a great question about how do you build a 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:18.240 culture at cal because the players are leaving. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.440 Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, you know, Doug, you've had 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.720 this direct experience right where you get these guys. Jason, 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.840 I appreciate what you said. Just one component of what 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.800 you said. I mean, here's a kid with a couple 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.200 of million bucks that has never had a checking account 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.320 or a savings account, that goes out, spends the money, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.240 and Doug, you've had this experience. You've had clients or 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:39.840 folks that you've helped and then they go to the 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.520 end of the year say, dude, what do I do? 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.280 I got a three hundred thousand dollars IRS bill. How 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:45.800 the hell am I going to pay this? Well? 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.800 Yeah, I know the biggest problem one hundred percent, right, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.040 I mean these guys are it's ten ninety ninety income. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.800 They think the money's going to keep rolling. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.080 And it goes back to Moreshawn on your Get Got 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.200 podcast More Sean about locking in the four to one 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.000 k's and financial literacy. If you guys like Jason, you 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.720 and Morshaw and these athletes will get into it and 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.960 help these schools and financial literacy programs things like that, 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.520 it's much needed. But now it goes to high schools. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.080 I mean, Jason, this goes back to U sports too. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:16.200 Your son is a great baseball player and you're seeing 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.400 it now in the U sports game too is evolved 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.200 in a crazy way with crazy parents, and how do 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:24.120 you look at that game too? 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.200 As far as the U Sports, I'm trying to learn that. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.720 That's a great point. You have a class of maybe 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.360 the class of twenty eight is now that's a freshman 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:38.080 signing with an agency because they believe that nil can 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.240 get them paid. And these are families who might not 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.160 have a lot of money and need the money. But 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:49.000 we're making freshmen or sophomorees millionaires and they don't have 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.440 the capabilities of understanding, you know, there's a new family 0:16:53.440 --> 0:17:00.280 member and Uncle Sam that you have to respect. Also 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.240 just guidance because we're putting so much pressure. There's anxiety. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.160 There's pressure for these young student athletes to be successful 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.480 because we're looked upon or they're looked upon as a 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.119 lottery ticket. And so the more we can talk about it, 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.680 the more that we can have groups of Marshawn and myself, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.440 people who can go out and talk to these young kids, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:23.640 it can only help. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.480 Jason, I love bringing up just the pressure man, just 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.120 use sports. I mean, you guys are two iconic, extraordinary athletes. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.240 I mean, do you do you feel like it's significantly 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.480 more pressure today that we're putting on kids and the 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.679 kind of pressure your parents put on the two of you. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.639 Yeah, I think just the social media. Marshawan probably is 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.359 a little bit more into that. I was more into 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.399 the newspaper. We've had to wait the next day for 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.320 the writer to write about it if we were good 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:53.040 or bad. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:18:00.240 Read and so the chronicles, the green section of the chronicle. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.120 That's right, the Oapen Tribune or the green section that's right, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:09.200 and so and so. But today there's hearts, there's thumbs, uh, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.760 you know, the d ms. Everybody is uh and the 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.200 biggest thing that we haven't talked about is the gambling aspect. Uh. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.240 The people who can gamble can reach right out to 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.479 the athlete, which I don't think we've ever seen before. 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.160 What I mean is that something the players are talking 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.400 about today? Is that some in the locker room. That's 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:29.440 part of the conversation. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.439 Yeah, because you got athletes, you know, you got players 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:34.919 who will get the DM. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:36.639 What are you showing it, sir Marshan? 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.760 Marshan? What what Marshaan is shown in an old article 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:41.520 the first time you're in the newspaper? 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:47.440 But yeah, I got to come up underneath that cloth too. 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.960 By the way, But Doug, isn't that a great precious thing? Man? 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.560 Here's Marshawan and Jason. I bet you still have you. 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.520 I bet your parents still have the boxes of all 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.080 those old articles. And there's a precious man versus the 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.399 ten million damn things that go online that disappear in 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.600 a nanosecond, that have no real value. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:12.919 Now, we valued the newspaper. Uh, it was gold. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.000 Cow Sport cat with it, the cow high Sport. That's right, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.760 that's your right. You want to know where I've. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.520 Gotta go year, I gotta go. Yeah, with that thing, yeah. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.080 Go look at the Oakland Tribune. We get that little 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:25.720 Oakland column OAE. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:26.600 That's right. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:31.640 And so today you have fake news. You got everyone 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.720 has their opinion, and so I feel that the kids 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:40.720 need role models a lot more than ever today because 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.439 there's so many people who are talking are betting on 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.679 them to fail or be successful. 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.440 Hey, Jason, take me through the pride you and where 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.920 Sean had as far as kids growing up in Oakland, 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.280 with the history of Oakland athletes and Bill Russell and 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.000 everything else. And take me through the pride you had 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.520 then and even now when you're walking the country about 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.520 you know, being from Oakland and and and the legacy 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.720 and the history there of you and more. 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:06.000 Shawn. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.240 Yeah, I think just growing up in Oakland, I got 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.400 lucky to have an older brother, a couple of them, 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.040