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Speaker 1: Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasser and the Pot

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Speaker 1: Brothers at law was special guest Evelyn La Chapelle from

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Speaker 1: The Last Prisoner Project. Hello, and welcome to Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one on Woman's Blue. Alongside of me is the world

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Speaker 1: famous Joe Grundank you very much and the Pot Brothers,

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Speaker 1: who are not here at all when they're out of here.

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Speaker 1: So there it is, guys. We have a fantastic show,

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Speaker 1: and since the Pot Brothers aren't here, we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. No, Blue, we do have a

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Speaker 1: good show today. Actually, a while back, on one of

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Speaker 1: the podcasts that you guys are listening to, you heard

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Speaker 1: Mark tell a story of when cannabis goes bad, and

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Speaker 1: in that story, Mark mentioned a young lady by the

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Speaker 1: name of Evelyn le Chapelle, and Evelyn La Chapelle was

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Speaker 1: convicted in federal court for depositing cannabis profits into her

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Speaker 1: non violent offender. Now she was really east February two nineteen,

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Speaker 1: after serving five years in custody, looking forward to rebillion

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Speaker 1: her life in Northern California, the area both resided from.

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Speaker 1: She quickly gained employments at the Omni Hotel as the

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Speaker 1: terminated after a co worker, a k a. Rat Bastard

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Speaker 1: discovered her conviction and rated her ass out care if

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Speaker 1: it was a guy he stealing? Yeah. She then joined

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Speaker 1: the Last Prisoner Project as an ambassador and uses her

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Speaker 1: story now to spread the message of prison reform, reentr

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Speaker 1: reentry obstacles, and our need to decriminalize marijuana. She has

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Speaker 1: found her place in the legal cannabis industry as a

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Speaker 1: community engagement manager at Virtosa. That all being said, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, Evil, and you're in the building with

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Speaker 1: us from prison. Sal escaped just to come here for us. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it's not orange and it's not so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the recap of everything that happened. Mark gave us

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Speaker 1: do you mean? What do you mean? She did this?

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Speaker 1: conviction because he received seven years sentence for putting cannabis

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Speaker 1: money into your accounty. No, actually it really wasn't, which

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Speaker 1: of well maybe it was more than I read. It

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Speaker 1: But don't let me sub you know, give my interpretation.

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Speaker 1: it happened in two thousand and nine, from January to September.

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Speaker 1: I allowed a friend to deposit their cannabis profits into

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Speaker 1: my bank account, not thinking that I'm like extra a

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Speaker 1: criminal lifestyle. I didn't change, my name, didn't change. You

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Speaker 1: look at that and you go, what the fun was?

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Speaker 1: I think, what the fuck? Right? Because at that point

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Speaker 1: you're going, I could totally imagine it's going, Yeah, wrapped

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Speaker 1: my mom and my friend, No I left baby daddy, okay,

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Speaker 1: And so the back story is the cannabis is going

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Speaker 1: I know when I said it. I said something wrong.

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Speaker 1: But the ship was rough. The ship was rough for

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Speaker 1: four days and they let me out. They let me

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Speaker 1: and right, So this is actually like anniversary week. You

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you, and many more keeps coming back.

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Speaker 1: is yet so she's how old is a little girl? Eleven?

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Speaker 1: Talk one on one. My name is Blue. Alongside of

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Speaker 1: Randolph Lee, sir? And he's out of that. He's out

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Speaker 1: on it might have been better off. They just delayed me.

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00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: So we got we got convicted, and it took them

424
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: twenty three months to sentence me. It was it was

425
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: of no doing of my own. It was twenty three

426
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: months with no outside air, no no hot water, I

427
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: mean no Michael meat, I'm eating that looks like alpos.

428
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean you're doing a nice spread. You put some

429
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: mustard on the spread. At least I hope you thirty

430
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: five pounds extra when I walked out of there. They

431
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: give me your clothes to put on. Oh yeah, I'm

432
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: sure I couldn't put it on. I had to put

433
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: on a paper suit, clear like paper jump So I

434
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: feel right now, by the way, even fitting my shirt

435
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: right now, I'm like, damn, welcome to my world. No, man,

436
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: this is in my world. I'm just here for a

437
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: few minutes. You're you're in prison? Is how did you

438
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: You're given the seven years sentence and four years probation.

439
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: Did you serve all seven years? So it's eighty seven months.

440
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: I got a year off for good behavior because I

441
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: am really truly an outstanding citizen. Did you work in

442
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: the Did you work in there? You don't have a choice.

443
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: So I worked in the garage washing cars. I tried

444
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: like changing oil and stuff. Not really good lesson to

445
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: learn and can do, like working inn keep with laundry.

446
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I just watched the cars. I was like,

447
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: this is not for me. Um, So I watched some

448
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: cars and then what else did I do? Their Unicorn?

449
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: So unicorn is uh prison industry right where I made

450
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: twenty nine cents an hour, which is the highest high

451
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: is paid job in the prison system. I mean I

452
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: got a degree in prison. Let me be this is

453
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: like I was making seven cents. I mean, no cents

454
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: that come up a great are you? Damn it? The

455
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: s gift on the vocational But Unicorn they make everything,

456
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: they make, glasses, they make, they do the humbies. They

457
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: they're making lots of money off of this labor that

458
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: I am. That's great. Actually, I'm actually I think that's

459
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: a great idea for a lot of companies or even

460
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: the federal government to capitalize on people that are working

461
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: to teach them some you know, great tools. Then come

462
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: back into the real world and be like I learned

463
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: how to be an electrician, I learned how to wire this,

464
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: I learned how to do whatever type of like if panasonics.

465
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: They're helping to teach you, but then after they teach you,

466
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: then they put you back in the real world and say, oh,

467
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: we don't hire felons. I mean, they'll get twisted. We

468
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: could change that by doing the other jobs. Maybe they

469
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: learned how to be she's got I have no doubt.

470
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: Well I don't know she had a job. She didn't know.

471
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: Did you not tell them at all? I absolutely let

472
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: me tell you about Let me tell you about the OMNI.

473
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: It's a nice hotel to listen. I go, I put

474
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: my application in California, took it off of the application process, right,

475
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: so then it's not there. So then when I go

476
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: in to get interviewed, I'm interviewed with four executives you know, boom, boom, bom,

477
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: all the way to the general manager. And they all

478
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: asked me the same thing, what UH explained the employment

479
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: history gap? Prison does prepare you for getting out? Until

480
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: I had gone and rehearsed this answer. The answer, and

481
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: so the answer is, my personal life took a turn

482
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: for the worst, which did not allow me to work,

483
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: but thankfully I'm in a place to be prepared to

484
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: get back into the working right. My personal life took

485
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: a turn for the worst, and now I'm back to

486
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: pay my taxes. Done right, And no one has a

487
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: follow up question except for the general manager and his

488
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: follow up question. No, his follow up question was what's

489
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake you ever made in life? And I

490
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: tell him I was involved with someone who was selling marijuana,

491
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: and when it was time for me to take responsibility,

492
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: I didn't, and my family and I both all suffered consequences.

493
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: And he says, well, as long as you learned from

494
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: your mistakes and we learned how to take accountability. I

495
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: got the job. I go to work. I'm on the job.

496
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: Oh rewind my first day of work. When you go

497
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: through orientation, they have a voluntary survey, like for tax purposes?

498
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: Are you disabled? Are you a veteran? Are you a felling? Yes?

499
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Are you? Yes? It's on it's a phone thing, so

500
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: with a real person. Are you a felon yes? Are

501
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: you um currently on probation? Yes? Can you provide us

502
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: with your probation officers number? Absolutely? I do all of that.

503
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: So I'm on the job for two months and when

504
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: human resources calls me into their office, all she has

505
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: is the article that Ice published on her desk and

506
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: she's like is this you? And I look at and

507
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: I was like, well, ma'am, my name is Evelyn la Chapelle.

508
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: It's not too many of us. Yeah, that's a good name.

509
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that would be nice to discussing my day.

510
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm not discussing my day, right is that you? I'm

511
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: not discussing my day. I'm right here, just paper. That's

512
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: not me, that's right here. That is the best dance

513
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: it's the best dance move ever ever invented. I mean,

514
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: it's like if someone comes to ask you some questions.

515
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not discussing my day. It's like what

516
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just throw the mark and Craig washing

517
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: was the being today. I'm not discussing might, not discussing

518
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: where were you at earlier? I'm not discussing my day.

519
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: Did you just come from minds at the target? I'm

520
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: not discussing my be entertained on my free to go here,

521
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm not discussing resources. So what happens, HR says, I'm like,

522
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's my name, and she asked him to

523
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: explain it. I do a brief and what she can't

524
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: understand is how you got passed their background check because

525
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: she ran aground check on me in California, and then

526
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: because it's not a California and then she reads the

527
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: article and she runs an additional three background checks and

528
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: all of the counties that are mentioned, which would have

529
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: been Mecklenburg, Victorville in Arizona where I serve time at,

530
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: and it comes back clear because it's not because it's

531
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: not a state case, it's a federal case. Man that's

532
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: not my fault, right, my fault. You guys ain't doing

533
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: your job. A statewide check not a federal Nonetheless, I'm

534
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: a sales and catering coordinator. I handle a wedding. None

535
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: of this has to do right. Well, you might take

536
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: someone's wedding cake, you know what I'm saying, sell it

537
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: who you might eat my spike in fuse. I don't

538
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: want it if it's not right. And I was act

539
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: to pack my bags. And is there a lawsuit there yet?

540
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm working. I'm working on it. Please. I hope you do,

541
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: because you need to hit them hard. That's ridiculous, because

542
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: there's no reason for you to admit everything from jump Street.

543
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Have a great job in the Bay Area, working hard,

544
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: doing your thing, and you're like, wait a minute, wait

545
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: is Omni And there is omni down here in l

546
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: A in San Francisco. Okay, So you're right there in

547
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: the town going okay, wait at minutes, I'm doing a

548
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: good job. Life is back normal. And I tell myself

549
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: that when I walk I was like, oh, this is good.

550
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: The week is behind me. I don't have to look backwards.

551
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: I've got a job. In hindsight, I'm so glad that

552
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm not there anymore. You don't like, Well, at least

553
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: you didn't have to pay that toll on the bridge anymore.

554
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean there's the toll. Yeah, there's the bar, right,

555
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: and then it would have been done. But now you

556
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: gotta lost you waiting to have it, getting paid for that,

557
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: and I got paid for you. I'm attempting. So they

558
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: did the Department of Fair Housing and Employment. It's all

559
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: one group. They did find fault and so I'm I'm

560
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: working on it, which is why I now include their

561
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: names as you should, and I like that. And now

562
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: then you joined the Last Prisoners Project as an ambassador

563
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: and you're using your story to spread the message of

564
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: prison reform rein three oscles. How's that coming for you?

565
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: And how did you get involved in that? Um? It is?

566
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: It is coming along well, which is which is why

567
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm here, which is why I'm glad I'm not at

568
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: the OMNI anymore, because I wouldn't be able to be here.

569
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Um So, after that happened, I was introduced to them

570
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: through Corvaine Cooper, my co defended that serving life there

571
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: in touch with him working on clemency. Are you still

572
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: in touch with him. I am, and you as are buddies.

573
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: We are buddies. The guy that's doing life it's not allowed,

574
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: so we're not buddies. Yes, you know, you guys are

575
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: not buddies because she's she's she's on parole because I'm

576
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: on probation. Yes, but he is he out No, he's

577
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: serving live, so so I can't be friends with people.

578
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Didn't he end up writting you out there? And so

579
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't the kingpin either. He got right it out too.

580
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: But did you or did he play the ignorant of

581
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: I didn't realize Evelyn that we were doing something wrong. No, no,

582
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: he knows, he knew. Yeah, if he because well she's

583
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: smiling like she she's everybody herself. She did a little

584
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: The card that I played, since we're being honest, thank you,

585
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: it's an exclusive. The car that I played, allegedly, if

586
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: you want any time, Allegedly he was because he had

587
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: several businesses, so allegedly to me, I'm doing a favor

588
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: for a known business person. He has a clothing company,

589
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: he's working on real estate. So that is the car

590
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: that I played in the courtroom, hoping that was the

591
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: card that he was going to play and his car

592
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: that he played in court was just to say nothing, right,

593
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: not a bad that's not that's not a bad car,

594
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: that's not actually respect that actually like that card. I mean,

595
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: I said nothing when you and you're going you know

596
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: what you said? Oh it sounds a lot like I'm

597
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: not discussing. I'm saying I'm just like, whatever you want

598
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: to do to her, you're gonna do to her. I

599
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with anything. Well, I think I

600
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: think what ends up happening is is you know, when

601
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: the Feds come in, just anybody listening, you know what

602
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, you know, I've always said this, I've

603
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: always said this is this is that if you get

604
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: pulled over by the police, you know, and if you

605
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: listen to any of our earlier shows, if you get

606
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: pulled over by a cop and they take you into

607
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: jail because for any reason, for any reason, you fucked up,

608
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: because you opened your mouth. You allowed them to to

609
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: know that that you showed some kind of suspiciousness. You

610
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: you you you made a goof you know what I mean,

611
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: because they stumbled onto you and you failed. Okay, you

612
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: you didn't pass the sniff test. If the Feds kicking

613
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: your door or arrest you. It's a wrap. They are

614
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: not coming and taking you. They don't. They don't press

615
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: charges on you unless they've got a case on you.

616
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: There's no like, you know, the Feds are here, they're

617
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: taking you away. There's no like, hey, you know, we

618
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: think got you. And a lot of people's mistake is

619
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: is they think when the Feds are, you know, dealing

620
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: with you, that oh, you know, they think they got me,

621
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: but they don't really know. No, the Feds don't build

622
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: a case on you unless you're into a federal indictment,

623
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: and that fed is they're going the whole route, you

624
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's no like in between. That's

625
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: that's like, that's like one on one, like criminal one

626
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: on one. The Feds don't get involved. They go, they'll

627
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: sniff around, and if you don't see them, even if

628
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: they're sniffing in your your whole area, if you don't

629
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: see them, it's because they don't have enough information on you.

630
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: You're not But hopefully if you're listening they don't see you.

631
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. And take criminal one on one

632
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Speaker 1: because I missed it. Yes, the moment you have a

633
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Speaker 1: charge against you on the Feds. You want to start

634
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: talking about what kind of deal can I get, because

635
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: you need to deal. They have a ninety nine nine

636
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: percent conviction right at nine point nine, and she's part

637
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: of one of that ninety nine point nine and she

638
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: was get in federal court prison, was posing in cannabis money.

639
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Seven years since and four years probation. You got about

640
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: two years left on that probation. I did a total

641
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: of five years, five years, three months. Like fingers crossed,

642
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: I've listened. I'm real whole thug here. Let's go. I'm

643
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: telling you do five years. You don't come out like

644
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: I got street cred all the time. My mom's like,

645
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: you can't go to a t M l A. I

646
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, they should be scared to me, like

647
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: a time. I'm year veteran right here talking about no

648
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: problems with um. But hopefully last pason, the project just

649
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: linked me up with an attorney proble. No, thank you

650
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: so much, Francesca, and we're gonna get me off probation

651
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: hopefully by the end of the year. Nice and when

652
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: you look back, especially like when we've just seen what

653
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: Kamala just said about prison reform, how she said she's

654
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna her and Joe wanted you roll the eyes. Why

655
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: the roll love it because when you're because when you're

656
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: in prison, you hear that, right, and so everyone I

657
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: sat in prison with a bunch of people like this

658
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: law is gonna change, We're getting out, this is gonna happen,

659
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: This is gonna happen, and none of that should ever happen. None.

660
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: It's happening Colorado. They just let a bunch of people

661
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: go recently Arizona's I mean, don't get a twisted I

662
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, but my point is it's step

663
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: by step before it gets to all fifty. And so

664
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Speaker 1: where you were at in North Carolina, if I'm not mistaken,

665
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: of course it wasn't nowhere near happening there, but it

666
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: just recently happened this past week as we're speaking today

667
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: in Colorado, and I'm sure you're following it like you know,

668
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: like it's a boyfriend, Like wait a minute, I can't

669
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: wait for this ship to happen. I'm gonna see this

670
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: am and you see the movement, and you heard Kamala

671
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: say it at the debate that she did. When I've

672
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: seen that, I was like, wow, I'm glad that it's

673
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's in the debate. You know what,

674
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: it's a nice car. It's a nice car you see

675
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: in a Nascar You know what happened to the folks?

676
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: You know? You know how they came up when it's

677
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: out in North Carolina too, they why she did seven

678
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: years over there? It's a nice car, it is. So

679
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: what are some of the fun things that you would

680
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: say you learned in prison, some of the more random

681
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: things that you come out with going I can't believe

682
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm still doing my prison is m of this. Oh absolutely,

683
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: So COVID brought all of the prison is ms back

684
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: and it happened. So it just happened to where I

685
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: didn't really notice it happened until I've got you put

686
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: a cell on your door, you took your door off

687
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: at your house. I put my towel on a hangar.

688
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Listen. So in prison, you know you

689
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: got to carry all your ship to the shower. And

690
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: at COVID, I went and stayed to my mom like

691
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna quarantine here, and she's always fussing to pick

692
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: up your stuff. And so I've got my towel hanging

693
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: on a hangar and I get in the shower and

694
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: I was like, the funk are you doing? Like get

695
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: your towel down, and why is it inside the It's

696
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: just it's just a routine, the routine. It's what you

697
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: did for five years. For five years. Um, I crocheted

698
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: during COVID, like I ordered some yarn and is that

699
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: what you did in prison as well? That's all I

700
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: did in prison was crochet the massive blankets. So I

701
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: did that so you can rock out with the crochet? Huh?

702
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: I could? Can you make us a cannabis talk one

703
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: on one? But I'll take up loterally? Could I literally

704
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: could put that on a blanket? Oh you could? Then

705
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I want one. I'll buy it. I'll buy it. I'll

706
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: buy it. Though I literally carpal tunnel. Now it's like, well,

707
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: so well, I'll pay for it, Okay. What I had

708
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: a tuna bowl during COVID, and I don't know if

709
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: anybody some somebody that's been there. No, it's a layer

710
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: of rice with cream, cheese and the tunas the tuna

711
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: is prepared with like tuna, your mayo and your pickle,

712
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: and you normally do it in the bag, right because

713
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of dishes, so this was

714
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: this was like a month ago. I'm sitting there and

715
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: making the tuna in the bag and why am I

716
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: not using a bowl? Why am I not using the balls?

717
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: The ball out? And I do it and then you

718
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: have to have this special uh like sweeting sour sauce

719
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: that I found in the store. I was super excited

720
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: about it prison style only that I need to find

721
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: outside of prison. But I ate it in a glass

722
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: bowl and not tough of were so I didn't feel

723
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: as bad. And then I did it again like two

724
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: weeks and it didn't taste the same. So I feel

725
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: the craving like once, isn't that funny? Like I remember

726
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: coming out of jail two going damn, I just feel

727
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: like making a spread right now, Like I don't know

728
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: why I want to do this is so stupid. I

729
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: can make me anything right now, but I feel like

730
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: eating spreads a c And my brother when he got

731
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: out of he would make his spread for us for

732
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: a long time. And I'm talking like months and months.

733
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: My brother came out like oh no, and that and

734
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: this is when I was really young. I was like twelve,

735
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: so I didn't realize it was the prison food spread.

736
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: And I was like what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I

737
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: thought that was him. You know, some k he's just

738
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: making some crazy stuff. And he put some holepenos in it,

739
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: and this and then and he started getting out inside stuff.

740
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: And I got introduced to spread in an early age

741
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: before I actually went into jail. I was like, oh,

742
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: this is great. I'm cool with this. I did it

743
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving, my first Thanksgiving home. You know, they do

744
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, real things. Even I was like, listen,

745
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: you guys are going to experience this, and I made

746
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: five years spread. I'm gonna make one. I made cheesecake balls,

747
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: you know with the powder cream cheese how they make

748
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: cheesecake and prisons with the I made cheesecake balls. I

749
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: made a chocolate cake out of the oreoles that you

750
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: smash and add the soda when made just the family

751
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: of spread. But what did they say? Did they like it?

752
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: They're like nobody would eat it? They're like was it good? Though?

753
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: I mean I had been eating it. I had only

754
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: been home for a month. Joy, my cheesecake balls is great.

755
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna to take a break

756
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: real quick. We're gonna come back and do the high

757
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: five with you having this cannabis talk one on one.

758
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: We want to thank a few people that always helped

759
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: put this show together. Pitt, thank you very much for

760
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: always having your dukey braid's done and looking so sexy

761
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: over there and making a clap and slap and peanut.

762
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: Thank you for keeping him in line. Jennifer always you

763
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: always do a wonderful job, Jennifer. Jennifer is right there.

764
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: You can't miss the gray streets in her hair. And

765
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: also you she got hit by lightning and Elvis our producer,

766
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: and our prayers go out to good Buggs. He's having

767
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: a hard time again. He just si. I mean, he

768
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: just had prison, He just had a surgery. His dog, bugs,

769
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: he had a gold stone or whatever. They don't know

770
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: if he's gonna make it. I hope he is. Bugs.

771
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Everybody saying we've got a couple more years with you. Bugs, Evelyn,

772
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: we really enjoy having you on the show. And for

773
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: those if you just catching lately. I don't know if

774
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: she's been in prison for five years, got a seven

775
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: year sentence for I just like to call your rants

776
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: of not realizing how someone was putting cannabis winning in

777
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: your account, which is such a slap on that had ignorant,

778
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: was going to try not to take the deal until

779
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: what was the original deal. I believe the original deal

780
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: was like three years. I would have done like a

781
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: year and then, but it got words because then once

782
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm convicted, etcetera, etcetera, probation says twenty four years, and

783
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: so then they cut me a deal to waive my

784
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: rights to an appeal. So that's how I ended up

785
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: with seven year deal. The seven years they hit you

786
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: with twenty four years. Oh, they was within their rights

787
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: to give me for the first time offender. This is

788
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: what's crazy about that. The fed zone play though, bro

789
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: like when people so I guess it is it's the

790
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: ignorance of somebody that has I mean, once you've been

791
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: through the system and you've heard enough stories and you

792
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: watched enough people. But that's you who've done that for

793
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: somebody else who's like yourself. But you know, she didn't know,

794
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: she didn't know, she was so orus, she didn't even

795
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: know she was doing such, and she's like that that

796
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: I was young, thirty five, You look like you twice

797
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: se No, you look great. I was going for twenty

798
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: six right now. No, I'm not. That wasn't a week

799
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: like I'm kidding almost like it was a week like hello,

800
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: something like like there's some ship in my eye broke,

801
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: I'll bet, but I was. Yeah. You never get that though.

802
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: Nobody ever takes You're thirty six, so no, but never

803
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Dad's yeah a woman, you got five more years, girl.

804
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: That's why I keep talking. They need to Harry somebody

805
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: about Harry yet right, I'm right here, he said. He's

806
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: sent me d MS going, Joe, where's your information at

807
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: the calendar? I don't about the text or at pit

808
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: at cannabis talk three guys at the door to in

809
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: the bag. There's one of the following. He's already followed up.

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00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: What's your name on the Graham d la Chapelle. Yeah,

811
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: he got her. You got it. And now for those

812
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: who are wanted to get in help with with the

813
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Prisoner Reform Project, how can they get involved? Just follow

814
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: you on Instagram or what's your best you If you

815
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: want to contact me, Instagram is the place to do it.

816
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Evident underscore Lashapale if you want to help, though, last

817
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: Prisoner Project dot org is truly doing the work to

818
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: get this done. They've got a strong clemency program and

819
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: they have They've just onboarded me as a reentry coordinator

820
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: and so building out like what re entry really needs

821
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: to look like? Is this what my man? The dude

822
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: the same the one from Florida or gat cat? What's

823
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: his name is there? Why this involved Steve D'Angelo? Yeah, Steve,

824
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: we have mone No, no, no, I know Steve. I

825
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: know Steve DeAngelo. We haven't had Steve D'Angelo on, but

826
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: there was another cat that came into the show. I

827
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: forgot his name. Steve has been around forever though in

828
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: the industry. So yeah, and so he's he's been up

829
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Speaker 1: the hair and he got the two the two grades.

830
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Speaker 1: Y o um, just because I got your bullshit. I

831
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: got your bullshit. I felt I felt your I when

832
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Speaker 1: where articulated what he looks, he goes, I'm gonna really

833
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: put the stamp on it. And I think he did

834
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: that for me too, because I gave I felt your

835
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: cheese on the side. But I didn't say that loud.

836
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: I just gave it to you like, oh here you go. No, No,

837
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: I felt you though, Yes, definitely definitely the some teeth right,

838
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: they got the lip. No, I always got to have

839
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: got that breeze. Yeah right, just freaking So that's how

840
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: all of you and I just curious growing up in

841
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: the Bay Area like that, just give out your phone

842
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: up on the area. And it's funny because I myself,

843
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: I was born and raised in San Jose, you know,

844
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm from the Bay Area. I used

845
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: to go to oak and I used to go to Eastward.

846
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I used to go to Flints barbe I was there.

847
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: You hear me, hear me claim the base stuff because

848
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Bay Area folks, we have that pride for the base,

849
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: especially when you go to Oakland Cats and the Grape

850
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: Screen which ones it was just you know, the Grape

851
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: Street brothers out there. You just if you're from the Bay,

852
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: you know those Bay Area roots of certain things like that.

853
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: Grape streets a big again. Yes they have it here

854
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: to in l A. But they have Grape Street. Yes,

855
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: that's where it started, where it started at Joe. But

856
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: my point is when you look at cannabis out there,

857
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: and when you're from the Bay and you're in Oakland,

858
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: you're in San Francisco and even San Jose. San Jose's

859
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: being the biggest city Oakland's decent size San Francisco. There's

860
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people in a little area, but there's

861
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: so much cannabis all around there. Even with the big

862
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: corner of Hayton Nash on East fourteen are in Berkeley

863
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: right there on University, it's just surrounded around us there,

864
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: even with the Colosseum, with the raves and everything that

865
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: used to go down there. You can go to the

866
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: jacket box and just pick up and it was just

867
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: around us all all over. And I used to go

868
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: to Oakland and get there. You can go to the

869
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: mission and get it across the bridge. There's just so

870
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: many spots where when I read your story, where Mark

871
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: was reading it to us. As you know, Mark found

872
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: has found you on Instagram. If I'm not mistaken too,

873
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: because when we're talking about we found you on Instagram,

874
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: you're sending all kinds of little hands and you ask

875
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: you're sending pictures Mark here, don't don't send him a

876
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: picture if you ask you for But my point is

877
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: it's hard for especially at young twenty two year old girl,

878
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: or let alone a young year old anyone in the

879
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: Bay Area to think, especially you know, two years back,

880
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm really doing something that wrong when I'm about to

881
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: come up on a couple hundred bucks. So that's that's

882
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: the harder Two. You think you know everything, and you know,

883
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: like I said, at that age, I was, I didn't

884
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: stop being a hood start sells twenty eight, you know

885
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. And and so you don't really have

886
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: the comments. It's funny two you're still doing but no

887
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: know that. Here's the crazy thing. Whatever she was speed.

888
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: She was in the university. That's what I'm saying. She

889
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: was forced speed though you know she was squared off

890
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: it unless she was at He's not that I wasn't

891
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: a square, but I was not in Oakland, and so

892
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: I was outside of When I moved to l A

893
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: and I got my first place in Inglewood, I had

894
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: no idea that I was in the hood, even like

895
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I had no idea listen until I'm until

896
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: I until I meet my baby daddy and he comes

897
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: over and he's like, I can't even drive my car

898
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: down here. I can't even because he's not from Inglewood.

899
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, what do you mean? I walk

900
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: my dog. I put on a srong and walk my

901
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Chihuahua down Beach Avenue like I have, and so I'm

902
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: not saying that I'm a square, but I was unaware

903
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: of l a of where square because you're in this

904
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: box and you don't know what's outside this box, right,

905
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: I get that down in naive to what was really happening,

906
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have happened. But at what point did you know?

907
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: And that you continued to rock and roll? I would

908
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: say none of it, no, but nine months happening she

909
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: did not, I mean nonew cannabis. I never not knew.

910
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: So you didn't you that you were crossing state lines

911
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: and you're doing federal tid because you're laundering money. But

912
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know was that this would have real consequences,

913
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: right thought I thought that no one would ever even

914
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: pay attention to weed money. So I'm not ever going

915
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: to claim that I was so naive that I didn't

916
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: know it was we that I didn't know it was

917
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: with money, but I didn't know. I just didn't know

918
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: that it carried these sorts of consequences. Especially the state

919
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: line is the worst because if you just did it

920
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: all here in calib thousand bucks a month, it was nice.

921
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: That's for five years. And let's be clear, though, I

922
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: at that time was had a full time job and

923
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: was the recipient of a trust fund. So this thousand bucks,

924
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: are this two hundred bucks? Literally didn't even need it,

925
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: literally did not need it. But so it wasn't for

926
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: the money. And if we're being honest, what it was

927
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: was because that guy she has a trust fund too.

928
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: She's really looking it went from home. We still got prison.

929
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: She's like that damn lawyer in North Carolina. Lawyer in Carolina.

930
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: You know she still looks. All right, guys, I'm just

931
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: saying you're not following one of us checkering. But yeah, no,

932
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't the money. And um, it was really just

933
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: because I was out here dealing with a knuckle head

934
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: and I found the fast life. It was you know,

935
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: it happens. So let me let me ask you so so,

936
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: so you have a thing for f boys. So she said, oh,

937
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: they said boys. Um so. So the funny thing is

938
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: is you know is blues dope boy allegedly. Um so, so,

939
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: if you think about it, though, you know this is

940
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: your the wakened to Los Angeles. I mean, you met

941
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: all these people in l A or all of these people.

942
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is yah? And so I don't it would

943
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: not Angeles, it wouldn't happen. Then where a little more attached,

944
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: and then you're rooted. You're rooted, rooted in Oakland. And

945
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: any of the dudes in Oakland that I deal with

946
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: would have been like, put you not, let you not,

947
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: put you in that position exactly. And we got one

948
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: right there. Look at this little life getting cute. Come

949
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: here girl, Yeah it happens. Well, now it's time for

950
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: the High five with our special guests who five years

951
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: she served you guys for some crazy bullshit Evan lot

952
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: Less Chapelle. Question number one on the High five, how

953
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: old are you the first time you smoked weed? And

954
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: where'd you get it from? I was in the seventh grade. However,

955
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: however old you aren't junior high And my best friend's

956
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: brother was. We were trying to smoke um and all

957
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: we have was grass. We literally took grass, hey, it

958
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: all gross weed, put it and put it in the

959
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,479
Speaker 1: line paper and tried to smoke it. And her brother

960
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: was like no, And he finally let us, if you're

961
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: gonna fake it like that, I'm gonna get you high.

962
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: And so really, and then he took us to a

963
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: restaurant and we we're giggling. So wow that he made

964
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: us leave. Nice. That's a good time though. That was

965
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: a good one. That's fun. Question number two of the

966
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: High five, what is your favorite way to use cannabis it?

967
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: I would say drink. It's it's evolving, right, like I'm

968
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: in this place where where it's beverages. I love the beverages.

969
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: I love that you don't stink. I love I love

970
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: all of that, right, And but I'm learning that smoking

971
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: is therapeutic, and so I'm on the fence. Yeah, drinking

972
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: or smoking, drinking it or smoking it up. I'll tell

973
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: you what, man, I'm hitting that little, that little I

974
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: didn't do it today because I did. I did so much, Yester.

975
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: You know, we did tend them in the other days.

976
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: I worked for them. They infuse I don't know that's secret,

977
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, we infuse it. It's our emotions. I worked

978
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: for Virtosa and we infuse a lot of the beverages.

979
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's nice. That's a good thing. And

980
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: now that you've got your cannabis experience, I shared prison

981
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: time for cannadas like you got. I got five years,

982
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: got all the time. Don't mention that name. Question number

983
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: three I can't even hear of trump card anymore. I

984
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: get piste off. Shut up with that rushing number three,

985
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: Craziest place, don't don't talk about blues uncle that way.

986
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: Craziest place you ever used cannabis or smoked weed, Craziest

987
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: place crazy, No, we I didn't. But I think the

988
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: craziest time was I pulled up, I pulled up to

989
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: the Army. I was gonna stay there in San Francisco.

990
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: This was prior to working there, working the room there.

991
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: Not anymore, but this was years prior. And I picked

992
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: up the homing from Ohio and we from the airport

993
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: to the Omni blew at least like three blunts and

994
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: hadn't let the windows down, and I didn't know where

995
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: the Omni was. I'm like, you know, reading the signs.

996
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: But when I pulled up, I was like, I think

997
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: this is it. The valet just opens the door immediately,

998
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: like without like any party. I was like, well, this

999
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: is it. He was like whoa. And then I got

1000
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the job, and then two years later I had a job.

1001
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: So question number three with ever four, I'm sorry with

1002
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: Evelyn Chappelle, la chapelle, la chapelle, which sounds a lot

1003
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: better than Dave Chappelle. It's La Chapelle. I like that. Uh,

1004
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: what is your go to munchy? When you get high

1005
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: cake pie? Pie? Key Line Pie from cy K is

1006
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: my favorite. My fan had that in a minute and

1007
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: they door dash it and it's the first thing I

1008
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: ate consistently when I got home. It's funny how your

1009
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: palette just goes this and I ain't had that because

1010
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: they don't think they have key Line pie before you

1011
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: went in. That's not decent past five years? Yeah, yeah

1012
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: they did. I'm pulling my fat cart out. Let me

1013
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: see it right here, Ken years. Question number five of

1014
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: the High five Evilyn, If you could smoke with anyone

1015
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: dead or alive, would it be and why Kim Kardashian

1016
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: Damn white Kim, because because I think it'd be hilarious.

1017
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm pretty sure she doesn't smoke. Um, and

1018
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: I would like to talk to her about prison refor him.

1019
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: So she's done a lot. Did she makes a noise

1020
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: when you were in prison? Like where all the people going,

1021
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she's doing so much besides your crazy

1022
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: as husband. Um? Not quite, but she had made She's

1023
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: gotten a few people out and I think that she's

1024
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: on the right path. And she's got a line to

1025
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: the guy that whose name we can't say Trump. No, No,

1026
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: you can say it if you like. I just want

1027
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: to make funny, like make funny. Actually let some folks out. No,

1028
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: he's done quite a few good things. Don't get me

1029
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: twist when I said I'm not help and so has she.

1030
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: And I actually love the fact that she's going to

1031
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: school to try to become a lawyer. I think she's

1032
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: fucking phenomenal. And I'm so impressed with everything Kim Kardashian

1033
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: has done with her fame that she's received in her

1034
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: family and their multimillionaires and billionaires, and I take my

1035
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: hat off to them, and I think they do a

1036
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: lot of good. And she's done the most good with

1037
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: her success and meaning by helping people with this prison

1038
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: reform for bullshit cannabis crimes. Right, So that's right up

1039
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: your alley. So yeah, I'd roll that one with Kim.

1040
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: I have a drink, I didn't fuse. You want to

1041
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: get a drink too, I would infuse it, yes, and

1042
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: let her really just get losing, right, and then we

1043
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: can talk about getting Corvan Cooper out of jail. Hey

1044
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: is that the next he's the next one, He's the next.

1045
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to help her. This is his first time

1046
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: offense too. Unfortunately they got them with the three strikes,

1047
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: but the two previous strikes were both cannabis offenses, and

1048
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: California has dropped them to misdemeanors. Carolina refuses to reopen

1049
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: to strike those two previous He's in such a dirty

1050
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: position that is horrible, and he's all three cannabis. He's

1051
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: in the fed zone. He's doing He's one of these

1052
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: cats that we talked about doing life in prison for

1053
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: straight cannabis. I mean, but I mean, I mean, you know,

1054
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: no cocaine, no man, no nothing. But you guys gotta

1055
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: you guys gotta realize something. I mean, I allegedly you know,

1056
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: have have understand this this market, and a lot of

1057
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: people know you know what I mean. And so you

1058
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: start doing you know, and too much weight. I'm gonna

1059
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: let you know, do like you start doing. You start

1060
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: doing you know, four or five pounds a week, you know,

1061
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: and and I'll explain to you what happens. You know,

1062
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: It's not it's not the weed, you know what I mean,

1063
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: It's the tumble of money. It's it's you know, you've

1064
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: got people coming in and out of your homes, out

1065
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: of your your hotel rooms, out of your suites, out

1066
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: of your your lifestyle, and and there is a lot

1067
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: of collateral damage along the way, dude, that not talked about.

1068
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: And and a lot of that cash you think, oh,

1069
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: it's just cash. No, that cash is coming from the cartels.

1070
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: That cash is coming from the organized crimes. It's it's

1071
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: it's moving through the system. And the reason that my

1072
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: whole team originally, you know, got indicted and I started

1073
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: getting letters from the FEDS and stuff like that, and

1074
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: I knew that there was it was all it was

1075
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: all washed up is because the the actual money was

1076
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 1: coming into I'm sorry, it was the money was going

1077
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: from uh, coming from Colorado. There was the weed. The

1078
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: money was coming from California going into Mexico. Then Mexico

1079
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: was sending cocaine to to Canada, and then Canada was

1080
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: sending weed back into California. So it became, uh, you know,

1081
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: like think these people you're saying, because that sounds like

1082
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: a normal transaction that's going on regardless with so so.

1083
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is is when when the when

1084
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: when the kids here, are the people here that are

1085
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: consuming cannabis, whether it's going out of state that yeah,

1086
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're talking about. This, This isn't you know, yeah,

1087
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: license market. We're talking allegedly market, right, all this this

1088
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: money that comes in here locally is coming in and

1089
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: then the money goes back into Mexico, then goes into

1090
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: Canada and with cocaine, and then cocaine gets distributed throughout

1091
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: the country. I mean, so what's happening is you're talking

1092
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: about it's a ring. It's it becomes even if you

1093
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: only touch cannabis, you know, it's a slippery soul. So

1094
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: you're saying, the higher you get in even with cannabis,

1095
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: the higher you get up with dealing with hundreds of

1096
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: pounds and thousands of pounds, you're getting with higher doses

1097
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: of different drugs than just Canada. So remember what I

1098
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: told you. I've always said this. My dad has always

1099
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: telling me, hey, we we we only sell we only

1100
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: sell cannabis, Like we don't get involved in any of

1101
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: the drugs. You know this, Like his dad was a

1102
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: second you don't know, the seven and his dad was

1103
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: a grower and seller, second generation grower Blue Wis, So

1104
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: he grew up with it being in his house, like

1105
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: my dad sold packs. Like that's what we did, you

1106
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That's that's why why we're here today.

1107
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's everything we've done is led up to this.

1108
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: But but even that, that process though of it. What

1109
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying is when you when you're in the swing,

1110
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you're watching all this

1111
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: money flow through the system, you know what's happening, you

1112
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you're not oblivious to it.

1113
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: That's why I was like, oh, maybe she probably know

1114
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: more than you know, you knew. I was thinking, you're

1115
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: you're with these people, you know, and maybe she was

1116
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: probably at him with the arms distance, you know what

1117
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean. Which, yeah, and you came from the Bay

1118
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: to l A and they got you going, okay, we

1119
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: got one lunch. Goldilocks is like get her. No, It's

1120
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: just it's just like I said, like, you tend to

1121
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: think you know what's going on a lot of times.

1122
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: But again, if you're in the scene and and you're

1123
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: in it, you see the flow of all this cash

1124
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: and and you might be sending you know, if you're

1125
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: sending a half a million dollars somewhere, you know what

1126
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and cash, you know, and it doesn't seem

1127
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: like it's a lot you know money. That's a lot

1128
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: of money, period. But but I mean, if you're flowing

1129
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: that out like back in the day, a hundred pounds

1130
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: is four hundred, four hundred thousand dollars, I mean, you know,

1131
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean not for I mean for forty dollars. You

1132
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: got hundred forty half a million dollars in your possession

1133
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: and you're moving that around. It's going places, Bro, things

1134
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: are happening. You know. You have to realize that. And

1135
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter what you're doing. It's the ones

1136
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: that are higher up. They're gonna get more time. They're

1137
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna show the lives. And conspiracy charge is what it

1138
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: comes to, right because the one the kingpin got only

1139
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: I think twelve years. I think he's out. How does

1140
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: the kingpin get less than he worked his way? He

1141
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: got everybody, He told everybody on everybody and Corvaine actually

1142
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: was indicted after me how many people were involved in

1143
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: the act and that all Bro made a paper power

1144
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: point so he had like boxes, this name that solder

1145
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: this person. He got the money. She put the money

1146
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: in her bank account. I have pages, and he was like,

1147
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: this is the address, and I don't know the address,

1148
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: but let me draw out a map how to get there.

1149
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: Make a right where the church's chicken is, and then

1150
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: right there on the left hand side where the bars are.

1151
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: Knocked on that door, knock on that door, and that's

1152
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: where you're gonna. And I think a total I think

1153
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: a total of twelve. I think a total of twelve.

1154
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: I heard that he's out. I haven't checked, and I

1155
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: mean I get everything that you're saying. You know him,

1156
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: You didn't even know him. We had done dinner. We

1157
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: had done dinner once with him, with him, so you

1158
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: knew the other guy. Um, so I knew. I knew

1159
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: a total of four people out of three, I knew

1160
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: a total of If you knew the top dude, you

1161
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you were close, real close? Girl?

1162
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Did he didn't tell above him? Someone was above him? Tried.

1163
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: I think he draw a map far enough, um from

1164
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: from what I know, And so I mean, I get

1165
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: that there's always bigger, bigger aspects. But when I look

1166
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: at Corvaine's case, he was indicted even after me, and

1167
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: so they really only had word of mouth and the

1168
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: only images that they had of him was was buying

1169
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: I believe, like boxes out of the U haul store.

1170
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: And so it was really like, I get it. We

1171
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: we all know we're guilty, but there's got to be

1172
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: a point where you gotta have some proof other than

1173
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: dude in the Orange jumps. They had trying to get

1174
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: time off, but he got life in prison because he

1175
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: went to trial with me. They didn't give him a

1176
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: plea to try to take one. Listen, three of us

1177
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: went to trial, and three of us are the stupidest

1178
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: people in the case. Yeah, because they didn't tell you

1179
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: why you're in county though people were people are telling

1180
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: you until after I was convicted for being so honest

1181
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: that than you. You just can't everybody else because everybody

1182
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: else that was doing it, here's a game better. They

1183
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: took it. They took a deal. They took a deal,

1184
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: and they cooperated. And so it's it's for me, how

1185
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: do I take a deal without cooperating? And you're thinking,

1186
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: I ain't know rad I, I well, I don't really

1187
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: know anything to write anybody out real and and then

1188
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: and that's not, that's not an excuse. But then they write,

1189
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: they write a factual statement along with the police, so

1190
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: here's your plea, here's your factual statement. And they had

1191
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: some facts on there that I couldn't I couldn't say

1192
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: that I knew that to be a fact. And I

1193
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: just have an attitude. I've always had an attitude with

1194
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: law enforcement and still do right now, while you got

1195
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: to me, I was and that was worse than the crime,

1196
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: right because if you guys were willing to give me

1197
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: three years, how do I then jump to twenty four

1198
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: years just because I decided to go to slap on

1199
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: the ass for you girl for not doing here you go.

1200
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: And that's what I call blackmail. But that's that's that's

1201
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: what I would like Miss Harris to talk about. Let's

1202
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: talk about that well again, partly set that up though

1203
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: she's part of the game of setting that up, which

1204
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: is why I wrote my eyes, because she's part of

1205
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: doing that whole scheme. It's just wrap folks out. I

1206
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: give that. I just had this conversation with them, get

1207
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: nice to you yesterday. They're yelling at me like I'm

1208
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: an idiot, and I'm like, look, I don't have all

1209
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: the fact she's still she is the one that's that's

1210
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: responsible for putting half the African Americans in prison. The

1211
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: last actions were part of putting them in prison. Yes,

1212
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: I agree, but listen you're talking about but it's actually

1213
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: talking about people that were drug addicts, so they could

1214
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: have been getting help instead of instead of being prosecuted

1215
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: in prison. Bro, there's a huge different Yes, yeah, like

1216
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: knowledge of what the let some important well listen, listen,

1217
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: it was great having me on the show. And before

1218
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: we get you out of here, is there anything you

1219
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: want to share with your listeners or your fans out there,

1220
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: or you know anybody out there in radio world. Yes,

1221
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: support Last person a Project dot org. Truly, truly, they

1222
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: give back. I'm a recipient of many of the things

1223
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: that they are doing in the industry. I myself am

1224
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: looking to launch a kind of a successory brand called

1225
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: eighty seven to represent the eighty seven months that I

1226
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: was sentenced to. So it'll have your grinder, your cones,

1227
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: it will all be in rows gold um because I'm

1228
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: a little fancy and so hopefully that job in March

1229
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: when I turn thirty six. All right now, and you've

1230
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: got a budget, the budget right now is almost forty

1231
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: so eighteen to launch another two three for the product,

1232
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: the inventory, and yes, I'm working on raising buns and

1233
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: so anybody evident underscore La Chapelle, if you want to

1234
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: send me some money, I'm definitely looking to raise the

1235
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: funds for that. Joe, congratulations, like yeah, no doubt. And then, um,

1236
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: so you know, I just I appreciate hearing your story.

1237
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had to go through what you've went through,

1238
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: but I assumed that it's made you a great person.

1239
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: You seem like you've made the best out of it,

1240
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: so you know, out of everything else, man, I could

1241
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: sit here and say, you know, you don't seem like

1242
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: someone that's just like still caught in the whole. This

1243
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: is all the end of the world. You'd learn to

1244
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: to love what you've been through, and I could appreciate that.

1245
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: You know, it definitely changed me. I will not tell

1246
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: another why because I feel like that's what kind of

1247
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: really got me called up up um. And so that

1248
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: was a lot right there, But I'm not telling listen, listen,

1249
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm making I'm making that's a lot to the people

1250
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: who can you know like that. But yeah, I definitely

1251
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: came out a different person, a lot less emotion and

1252
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: ready to get ship done. Hey, there it is, guys.

1253
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: She's looking for a man, so you know, make sure

1254
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: you go get her up on. I g I if

1255
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: he's listening, I'm not looking for a man because okay, congratulations.

1256
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Speaker 1: If he's listening, because I'm not lying no more. Although

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