1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Ruby is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Jordan's. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: So in a few minutes we'll call. 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghostinger 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: and maybe get her another date. But first, Ruby, how 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: long has it been since you heard from Jordan? 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 4: Hi, it's been nine days, okay. 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: Oh, okay. 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: How many times have you tried to reach out to him? 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 5: So I did a double text and I sent one 13 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 5: Instagram reel? Okay, yeah, that last text was two days ago. 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: So you didn't make the reel. 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 4: I just sent like a. 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 5: Top gun like real, like a jet reel. So I said, like, oh, 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 5: still feeling the need for speed? 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I'm sure that's an inside joke somewhere. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: So questions, Well, I don't can tell us about. 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 5: Your date, Ruby, Yeah, it was an incredible date. 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: We went to an aviation museum. 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Uh oh and top gun fan so oh okay. 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was my idea. 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 5: And he even did that quote he said, like I 25 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: feel the need for speed in front of me with 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 5: the jets and it felt perfect. 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: It's like the fantasy. 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like kind of my dream day, honestly. 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 5: Like we grabbed burgers after two and then we talked 30 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 5: about our childhoods for like two hours maybe, and he 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 5: told me about how he built model planes with his grandpa. 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 5: I guess I'm confused why, Like, I don't know why 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 5: he's not talking like texting me. But we also kissed 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 5: in the parking lot and he really kissed me. 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so it was like a good kiss. You 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: don't know why he's ghosting. 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: Yes, Like why would you kiss me and start to 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: ghost me? It doesn't make sense to me. 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Is there anything you can think of that would be 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: something that happened on the date that was awkward? 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 5: Maybe I like talked about like my hedgehog that passed 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: away during COVID. 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. 45 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 5: I showed him a picture, right, it's the earn of 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 5: my hedgehog. She's a little tiny pick, like a tiny 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: and pink. Or maybe I asked him any questions about 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 5: his grandpa. 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: I don't know. 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: I was just curious, Like I didn't mean to make 51 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 5: a therapy or anything. 52 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: What why do you think the hedgehog would be a 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: reason you wouldn't call you back. 54 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: I just felt pretty emotional when I showed it to him, 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 5: like I started to cry, because it really was a 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 5: good she was really a good emotional support for me, Like, yeah. 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: Maybe this was a hymn thing. 58 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: You know how some people get really overwhelmed by other 59 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: people's emotions and if you're somebody that can't really like 60 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: carry your emotions, like well or. 61 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: You it's too much. 62 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, like maybe he really liked you, but 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: then was like I don't know how to express myself. 64 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: I hope he's like in an act, like he got 65 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 5: to an accident and he's in the hospital. 66 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: You know, like. 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: He's doing okay, he just had a really good reason. 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: I get where you're going. 69 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 6: I don't know. 70 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: All right, Ruby, Well, we'll play a song come back, 71 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: and then call him and see if he'll tell us 72 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: why he's ghosting you and maybe get you a second. 73 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: Date if you still want one. 74 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, all right, we'll get your first date follow 75 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: up next. Right in the middle of your first date 76 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: follow up and if you're just joining us, Ruby is 77 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Jordan So 78 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: we're about to call Jordan and see if he'll tell 79 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 2: us why he's ghostinger and maybe get her a second date. 80 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: But before we do that, Ruby, why don't you break 81 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: down your situation again for us real quick? 82 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: Hi? Yeah, So I went on an amazing date and 83 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 5: it's been nine days since he hasn't texted me back. 84 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: And we went to an aviation museum. So we had 85 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: a great time. 86 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 5: He kissed me like really hard, and oh yeah, I 87 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 5: think I overshared about bubbles, my hedgehogs who passed away. 88 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: And yeah, maybe I scared him by having like big emotions. 89 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I think he like. 90 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 5: Might be in the hospital or an action, because I 91 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: honestly he really led me on. 92 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: Okay, well I hope not. Are you ready for us 93 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: to call him? 94 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: No, but I guess we have to do it all right? 95 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: Here we go. Hello, Hi, man, speak to Jordan. 96 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: Please, uh speaking? 97 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: Hey Jordan, how are you? This is a radio show. 98 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: It's called The Jewbell Show. Hi Jordan, I'mina. Hi, I'm 99 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: Victoria and my name is Jewbell. 100 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: What is how many people? What is this party? 101 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's three people on the phone. It's a radio 102 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: show called the Jewel Show. Have you ever listened to us? 103 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 6: I think I have. Actually, I just don't know why 104 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 6: you're calling me now. 105 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Well, we're calling you because we do a segment on 106 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: the show called the First Date follow Up. And what 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: that is is if you go on a date with 108 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: somebody and then end up ghosting them, that person can 109 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and ask 110 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: why you're ghosting them. So we got an email about you. 111 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: Oh no, okay, it's Ruby, isn't it. 112 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: Yes, it is Ruby. Congratulations. Do you mind telling us 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: why you're a ghostinger? 114 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 6: I don't know. It just it's we had one nice 115 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 6: date that. 116 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: It got a little weird what happened. 117 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 6: The date was awesome actually, but Ruby's awesome. She's smart, funny, 118 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 6: definitely interesting. But then she she told me about her 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 6: dead hedgehog within twenty minutes of meeting me and cried 120 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 6: like real tears. 121 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we talked to her about your day. She 122 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: did tell us that par she thought that might be 123 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: one of the reasons. 124 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: We found that kind of hard to believe because it 125 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: just feels a little bit, you know, harsh. 126 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean I didn't want it to be 127 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 6: a big thing, but you can made a big thing 128 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 6: like I mean, she really cried. 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: Did you comfort her? 130 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 7: I tried, but it was just a little overwhelming for me. 131 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: So we finished out the date and that this seemed 132 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: like enough for me. It is a sign that might 133 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: not be the best to come. 134 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: The hedgehog thing, that's it. 135 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know what, it's not even just that. 136 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 6: She she also at one point showed me this this 137 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 6: little picture on her key chain of an urn for 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 6: the hedgehog. 139 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: It was really a lot but the hedgehog. 140 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a lot of hedgehog. 141 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: Memorial for hedgehog. It was a lot of hedgehog, a 142 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: lot of tears, a lot of hedhog. 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you for telling us why you're 144 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: a ghostinger. Now, Jordan, I let you know that Ruby 145 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: is on the phone and wants to talk to you. 146 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, HydroD In, it's Ruby. How are you are you? Ruby? 147 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: You've been ghosting me, haven't you? Yeah? 148 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 6: I mean you've been listening in so I guess you 149 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: just heard that. 150 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 5: Wow, you are a jerk, and you're ghosting me because 151 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: of bubbles. You seem to have like run away. 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: From commitment or any like issues that require guests. 153 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: It seems yeah, it's like you never had a pet, 154 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 5: or you've never felt deep emotion for something for anybody. 155 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean this, hold on, this is a lot. 156 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 6: This is what I mean. This is a lot. This 157 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 6: was the first day and it's not even because of Bubbles. 158 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 6: It's because you told me about Bubbles being dead within 159 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 6: twenty minutes of meeting me, and then you cried about 160 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: it for another twenty minutes, and it's like you wanted 161 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 6: me to cry too. 162 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 5: It's just I mean, come on, it's it's a lot 163 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: on date one. So okay, I'm so sorry for having 164 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 5: a heart. I guess we should have talked about something 165 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 5: more superficial, like crypto or like sports injuries. I guess 166 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: I really thought you were someone else, but like it 167 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: seems like you're showing me that you really are just 168 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: like shallow. 169 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 6: I mean, you kind of should be a little lighter. 170 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: I'm the first meet. 171 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: I mean, we're the point of dating is like what marriage? Right, 172 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: So like we're supposed to jump in, dive in pretty deep, not. 173 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 6: In twenty minutes of meeting someone, and then that me think, well, 174 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 6: how much deeper is it going to go? 175 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: Crying about it. 176 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: You're counting the time when you meet someone on a date, like, oh, 177 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: there's a time where twenty minutes that's when she cried, 178 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, bye way. 179 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: Why did you kiss me after? Why did you leave 180 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 4: me on like that? Huh? 181 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I guess I just kind of felt bad. 182 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 6: It's I mean, you've been like mourning this. 183 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 5: Hedgehog for years and oh, oh my god, you are 184 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 5: my first kid. Whoa, Yeah, that was my first kiss, Jordan. Oh, 185 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 5: I like you ruined my dream of like my first 186 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 5: kiss that was supposed to be with my my so 187 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 5: many or something, but you did it because of my 188 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 5: pet that guy. 189 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 6: So I didn't know that. I mean I would have 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 6: guessed the first kiss would have been aheadhog. 191 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I just can't believe that. 192 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 7: Oh it's it's okay, it's all. We all go through things. 193 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 7: It gets better, it'll be You'll be fine. 194 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: I didn't know it was your first kiss, and I 195 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 6: am sorry I ruined that moment for you. 196 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: You just don't ever do that to a girl again. 197 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: Ruby. 198 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Thinking about it like this, how many people actually end 199 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: up with the person that they kiss for the first time, 200 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: like their very first kiss, Like, who's with that person? 201 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: I just wanted mine to be special. 202 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 5: I was been waiting for years for this moment, you know, 203 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: like I'm waiting. 204 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 6: Hold on, wait a minute. I thought that you've had 205 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 6: boyfriends before. 206 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I may have cuddled with them, but I've 207 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: never kissed them. Well, we talked a little about this. 208 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: I thought it was more than just cuddling. I sucked 209 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: with six people, but I've never kissed them. 210 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: Oh oh oh why not? 211 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: Because I was trying to save it for my soulmates 212 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 5: and Jordan kissed me. So now I really have to 213 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 5: rethink my life is honestly. 214 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean maybe you should have started with the 215 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 6: kiss and then save the other stuff for the. 216 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: Soulmate way to do it. 217 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, well not your opinion, but you really ruined my kiss, 218 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 5: so off Jordan's Oh you will first da