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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Junior Jim Salisbury. I'm todd so lucky. It is Monday,

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Speaker 2: July one, twenty twenty four. First three days of life

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Speaker 2: with the Phillies without Bryce Harper and kyleesh Warber.

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Speaker 3: They went on the IL on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: They are two and one and it's been kind of,

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Speaker 2: I guess, maybe kind of what you would expect, guys,

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Speaker 2: after losing those two and then you have JT already

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Speaker 2: JT Realmuto on the IL.

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Speaker 3: They get an incredible.

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Speaker 2: Pitching performance sign from Christopher Sanchez on Friday shutout, they

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Speaker 2: lose Saturday, did not a very great game, and then

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Speaker 2: Sunday they just win a totally ugly affair. They commit

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Speaker 2: five errors, but they come back as their biggest comeback

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Speaker 2: winned the season Trey Turner with a big hit late

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Speaker 2: on his birthday, and it just seems like this is

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Speaker 2: the way it's gonna kind of have to be until

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Speaker 2: Harper and Schwarber come back and Ria Muto come back.

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Speaker 2: They've got their lean on that starting pitching and they're

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Speaker 2: just gonna have to try. However, they can to eke

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Speaker 2: out some wins even if they are ugly like they

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Speaker 2: were yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no question, I thought it was huge that they

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Speaker 4: came up with that win yesterday Sunday, even though, as

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Speaker 4: you said, it was ugly, thirteen men left on base,

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Speaker 4: the errors were, you know, just ugly. Fortunately, the Marlins

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Speaker 4: were pretty much just as ugly. But you know, there

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Speaker 4: was a couple of little silver linings in there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Ranger didn't pitch well the two nights before they got

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Speaker 4: excellent starts. They only won one of those games behind

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Speaker 4: Christopher Sanchez. So not a lot of runs on Friday

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Speaker 4: and Saturday, but they did score a bunch of runs

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Speaker 4: on Sunday. They did overcome a deficit. Again, there was

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Speaker 4: a you know, an element of a gift in it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Tim Anderson makes that error on a uh

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Speaker 4: surefire double play ball and opens the uh gate for

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Speaker 4: the Phillies to begin their comeback. But nonetheless, the middle

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Speaker 4: of the order, the middle of the Phillies order did

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Speaker 4: barrel some balls up. You know. Castiano swung it good.

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Speaker 4: He had he had four hits, right, I mean, he

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Speaker 4: had a couple of really big ones. Uh Bohm had

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Speaker 4: a big home run. So the middle of the order,

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Speaker 4: you know, Marsh and those guys did come through. They

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Speaker 4: they did, you know, bail out Rangers, Suarez so and

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Speaker 4: even you know with with you know out without real

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Speaker 4: Mudo and Harper, uh and Schwarber, you know, you you're

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Speaker 4: losing a lot of slug. You're gonna have to manufacture runs.

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Speaker 4: And I thought, you know that seventh inning, Marshawn, you know,

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Speaker 4: you parlay two walks. Marshawn lays down a bun. I

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Speaker 4: mean that was old school textbook baseball. Good job. And

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Speaker 4: then Trey Turner comes up and drives a base hit

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Speaker 4: to you know, really the biggest hit of the game.

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Speaker 4: So though it was ugly, I think you take it

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Speaker 4: because without Harper, without Schwarber, and with the real Mudo

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Speaker 4: being up, with real Mudo being out as well. Man,

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Speaker 4: if you could play five hundred a little over five

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Speaker 4: hundred to oft these big guns, I think you're doing

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Speaker 4: pretty good given where you already are, with the where

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Speaker 4: you have banked so many wins. And then you're gonna

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Speaker 4: get those guys back mid July, and we talked so

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Speaker 4: much about the trade deadline, but those are three big

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Speaker 4: July acquisitions. So I'm okay even though it was ugly

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Speaker 4: and they didn't score a lot of runs early in

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Speaker 4: that series, I'm okay with the way they got through it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a pretty good effort overall, just being

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Speaker 3: able to stay resilient enough to stay in that game

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Speaker 3: and win it. There were so many ways that they

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Speaker 3: could have just folded because Ranger didn't you know, didn't

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Speaker 3: throw the ball very well. He struggled with he couldn't

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Speaker 3: make the pitch with two outs. Marlins came up as

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Speaker 3: a lot of big two out base hits, which are

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Speaker 3: sort of demoralizing for a team. But this is a

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Speaker 3: super resilient team. It's We've shown that time and time

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Speaker 3: again from the from the twenty twenty two season on.

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Speaker 3: I think it's one of the most resilient teams I've

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Speaker 3: ever seen. They've lost some tough games, they bounce back,

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Speaker 3: they have a tough inning, they bounce back, they make

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Speaker 3: a bad play, they somehow bounce back and win a ballgame.

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Speaker 3: And yesterday was not pretty. It was the ugliest win

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Speaker 3: I think I've ever seen, but they figured out a

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Speaker 3: way to put a w on the board under a

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Speaker 3: tough circumstance. Lest we forget, I mean, they've also lost

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Speaker 3: two starting pitchers. You know, they lost Taiwan Walker and

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Speaker 3: they've lost Turnbull. So not only have they lost their

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Speaker 3: some depth there. And now I'm gonna have to hope

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Speaker 3: that Michael mccardo steps up on Tuesday and figures out away.

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Speaker 3: And you know, they have that. You know, it sounds

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Speaker 3: really cliche, they have that next man up mentality, but

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Speaker 3: that's the reality of it. I mean, guys are stepping

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Speaker 3: up and figuring it out. They did not have very

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Speaker 3: good situational hitting at times during the course of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: It was a little frustrating to watch them do what

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Speaker 3: they did. But then they'll come up with like a

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Speaker 3: was good to see, in particular for me in particular,

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Speaker 3: to see Marshy bounce back this over the next last

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Speaker 3: few days. To see Castillanos swing the bat pretty darn

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Speaker 3: well over the last couple of days and a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. Actually it's been maybe a month or so.

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Speaker 3: He's been much much better. So he hasn't been like

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Speaker 3: a stall worker or anything like that. But he has

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Speaker 3: come up with some big bass hits and some big

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Speaker 3: RBIs and that's pretty important. He's won some games, he's

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Speaker 3: done some things that have that have helped the ball club,

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Speaker 3: and so that's huge. But you're right, guys, you know,

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Speaker 3: I've got to figure out how to win baseball games

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Speaker 3: over the next two weeks three weeks and be able

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Speaker 3: to sustain things until the All Star break rolls are ound.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, Reuben, you brought up

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Speaker 2: Nick Castianos, and I just while you were talking, I

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Speaker 2: just looked up some of his stats recently, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to base everything off my Twitter feed,

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Speaker 2: but man, oh man, he has one bad game. He

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Speaker 2: just gets crushed on social media because he had such

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Speaker 2: a terrible start because of the way he finished the NLCS,

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Speaker 2: And I just found out like a three hit game

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Speaker 2: he had in May. So from May nineteenth three yesterday,

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Speaker 2: he's hitting two seventy five seven home runs, twenty five RBIs,

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Speaker 3: Is that kind of what it is with him now?

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Speaker 2: I mean you just have to, like, as a Phillies fan,

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Speaker 2: just to calm your nerves so you don't lose your mind.

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Speaker 2: Every time he's going to have a couple games in

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Speaker 2: goes one for twelve with six strikeouts, he chases, he

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Speaker 2: just looks totally clueless. And then the next three or

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Speaker 2: and he's going to look really good. And it's like,

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Speaker 2: this is what Nick Castianus is, So you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: this will help you relax.

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Speaker 3: This is what he is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think what's happened with Nick is that there's such

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Speaker 3: a high expectation. He signed such a big contract, right,

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Speaker 3: He signed for big money, So the expectation was that

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Speaker 3: he was going to be a middle of the lineup,

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Speaker 3: protect Bryce Harper in the four hole. You know, have

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Speaker 3: twenty five home runs and one hundred and five RBIs

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Speaker 3: and that's really not who he has been for the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: He's had stretches where he's been okay, but he's been

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Speaker 3: that's sort of part of it. You know, he had

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Speaker 3: end and then really struggles in the playoffs. But you're right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you just the expectation for him is much

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Speaker 3: much higher than the actual production. But we we talked

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Speaker 3: not really how it starts, it's how he ends. And

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Speaker 3: the fact that they're winning baseball games. I mean that

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Speaker 3: just becomes a plus later on. Like if he starts

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Speaker 3: becoming a seven fifty to eight fifty ops type player

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Speaker 3: over the last you know, half of the season, then

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Speaker 3: that's pretty damn good under the circumstances with the type

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a streaky guy, and I do think he

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Speaker 4: so much pressure on himself. You know, he was really

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Speaker 4: hit a big hit yesterday. He drove it hard one

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Speaker 4: Harper by Tim Anderson at short and it was really surprised.

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Speaker 3: He can't move, He really can't move. He's been he's

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Speaker 3: been a sort of a detriment to them. They try to,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he like, you know, the red light was going

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Speaker 4: on behind him like a hockey goalie all day. They

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Speaker 4: they were squaring it up and I'm not saying these

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Speaker 4: were balls he should have gotten, but they weren't even close.

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Speaker 4: But I mean Nick drives that ball for a really

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Speaker 4: big hit. I think first pitch. I think there are

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Speaker 4: times when his aggressiveness early in the account really benefits him.

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Speaker 4: Men on base. If he gets a pitch over the middle,

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Speaker 4: he's going to do some damage. It's it's when the pitcher,

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Speaker 4: and that's not and he's aggressative. That's where the chase

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Speaker 4: for a few years. I think when when it happens

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Speaker 4: to him, the glare is just a little more intense,

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Speaker 4: maybe because of the way last season ended. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's the contract, but if he could build some

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Speaker 4: continue to build some confidence because he has the last

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Speaker 4: two weeks he's been terrific, and even before that, as

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Speaker 4: you mentioned Todd, he's been a valuable, you know, productive bat.

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Speaker 4: I just think, you know, sometimes we remember how the

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Speaker 4: season starts. Well, he's been pretty good. Lately, he's been contributing.

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Speaker 4: He's a really really important piece because I still don't

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Speaker 4: think they've made up their mind how they're going to

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Speaker 4: act at the deadline. I still think a bat would

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Speaker 4: be nice to get out there. But I also believe

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the plan that they had on

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Speaker 3: Even as good as these guys are, you can't expect

433
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: them that every single start they're gonna throw seven innings

434
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 3: of shutout baseball or one run baseball. But you know,

435
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: I just as a fan or as somebody deserving the team,

436
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 3: you just can't get too alarmed by the fact that

437
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: you know they might have a bad adding or two,

438
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 3: because I'm sure that their arms will bounce back be fine. Yeah,

439
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 3: it's true.

440
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean his blow was down a little bit yesterday,

441
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 2: so that could definitely be be uh be in play

442
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I think Ranger even said, yes,

443
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, sometimes you just have a really bad day,

444
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: so you have to expect that he'll bounce back.

445
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,239
Speaker 3: You know.

446
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: Schwarber said yesterday that he expects to be back after

447
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: the ten day IL stint, which would be July ninth.

448
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: Rob Thompson said at some point over the weekend that

449
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: he thinks there's a good chance Bryce will be back

450
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: before the All Star break, so they really only have

451
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 2: to manage this for another eight nine ten days or so,

452
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: And with this pitching.

453
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 4: Brice might be hungry to play in that All Star Game.

454
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: You know, well, he hasn't played in one as a

455
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: Philly and he you know, got all those fan vones.

456
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: He he might be hungry to play in this one.

457
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: I think that means a lot to him. You know,

458
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how much she would come out and

459
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: say it, but it that is. It is crazy or

460
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: funny to think that he's never made the All Star

461
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: Game as a member of the Phillies as well as

462
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: he is, well he has played because the injuries.

463
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't start the season last year.

464
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 4: Was that one in Cleveland when they had all the

465
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 4: banners around town, he was on one of the banners.

466
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 4: He wasn't even there. It was interesting.

467
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he yeah, I listen. It would not be surprised me.

468
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: The man doesn't bruise and the man doesn't swell, and

469
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 3: I gotta believe he's like bionic, and so I just

470
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 3: feel like, I just feel like he's These guys are

471
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: going to be back. They are on the trip. I

472
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: flew with the team yesterday. They are all of those guys,

473
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: J T. Schwarber, Harper, They're all here on the trip.

474
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: They're staying with the team. So I got to believe

475
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: they're a lot closer to you know, to being healthy

476
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: than not being healthy. So I think they're on the

477
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 3: other side of it, which is good. And uh, and

478
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: I fully expect these guys. I know that Sharber didn't

479
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: even want to go in the aisle. It was like

480
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: one of those guys that But you know, they're being

481
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: cautious with them, and they should, and they have to

482
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: make sure that the guys one hundred percent so that

483
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: they may make a run from September through November that

484
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: they're you know, going full full bore.

485
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: What do you think do you do you think if

486
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: the Phillies and the Braves right now were tied in

487
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: the standings, for instance, do you think they would have

488
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: let him play it out or do you think because

489
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: they have this eight, nine to ten game cushion, they go,

490
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: let's listen, we they have some room for they have

491
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 2: a margin for error.

492
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: So I wonder if yeah, right, yeah, I think that

493
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: helps a lot. And the fact that they have such

494
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: good pitch starting pitching helps a lot. If they were

495
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: sort of muddling along and uh and and battling much

496
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: more with the Atlanta Braves and the Braves were playing better,

497
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 3: baseball might be a little different. I still think that

498
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: they Typically in this day and age, you sort of

499
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: err on the side of caution with some of these guys,

500
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 3: especially with the timing of it, because you really do

501
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: need to have these guys ready from September through November.

502
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: It's just too vitally important. So there's a there's sort

503
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: of a conservative l to to injury in this day

504
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: and age, a lot more than it used to be.

505
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: You know, back back in the day, man, you didn't

506
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 3: tell anybody who were hurt. Nowadays, you know, and it

507
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: was good that you know that. Turnbull went to Rob

508
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: Thompson said, hey, man, that that pitched before my last one. Man,

509
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 3: I tweaked my shoulder. I just want to let you know.

510
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: And they bounced him out of the game immediately, and

511
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: it turned out there was something, you know, fairly serious.

512
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: But at least he has time to come back, they

513
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: think after doing some extensive rehab. I think that maybe

514
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 3: he has still has a chance to be a viable

515
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: piece of this puzzle for the last month or so.

516
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: Who makes the So you talking about Harper wanting to

517
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: play in the All Star Game. We talked earlier about

518
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: three guys in the rotation possibly making the All Star Game.

519
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: Boone is probably going to make the All Star Game.

520
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: You think there's anybody else that's going to make the

521
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: All Star Game.

522
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: Well, I think Matt Strom had a chance chance to

523
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: make it. I think Alvarado had a shot, and I

524
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: thought Hoffman had a shot. But I don't know. I

525
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: think I think Strong. I think Strong. God, he put

526
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: together some stupid numbers. I mean, before the last day,

527
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: I had a couple of values. He hasn't been quite

528
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 3: as effective. He had two little clunkers. But or let

529
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: in a couple of rounds. But which is so rare

530
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 3: for him to do that. You're like, he hadn't done it. Yeah,

531
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: I haven't done it. I think Strong's got a chance.

532
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: I do think the three starters have a chance, and

533
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, maybe even four. I don't think Nola's gonna

534
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: slide him necessarily because he's down on the list. But

535
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: I gotta believe the top three starters are gonna make it.

536
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: I have to believe that's going to happen. I can't

537
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: imagine keeping them off, like what would keep them off?

538
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: And so I think you got Harper, you got Bone,

539
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: you got the three starters, and then beyond that, I

540
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: mean Turner might make the damn thing because Turner's numbers

541
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: are so much better than everybody else is in the

542
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: shortstop position, even though he's had a really really short

543
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: you know, he's missed them up. Yeah, so so I

544
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: mean Turner's a possibility too. I mean, people want to

545
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: see him. Yeah, he's the best shortstop, you know, offensive

546
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: shortstop in the National League. Who's better?

547
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: And Mookie's down, Mookie's not playing, So yeah, Mookie, Mookie

548
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: was winning the fan.

549
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: Had had had Mookie been in there, Mookie, I think

550
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: I think they got to take one player from every team. So,

551
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: like God, like Ezekiel Tobar is gonna make it, probably

552
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: for for Colorado. He's like the only guy who'd probably

553
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: make it. So that's a shortstop. But then who else

554
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: is there? I mean, I think is a Turner number

555
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: two in the voting he was voting. Yeah, so I

556
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: think Turner's gonna end up being there too.

557
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: It could be impacted as well if if one of

558
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: the Phillies guys pitches on the final Sunday, that's the kind.

559
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 3: Of sure, yeah, no doubt you've chosen, but not not

560
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: pitch and not be there on was uh, you.

561
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: Know my starting pitchers, pitchers being chosen, tipping their hat

562
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: and sitting down all night.

563
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: Boom. Yeah you wouldn't. David Montgomery wouldn't be very happy

564
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: with you. But I totally agree.

565
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: Hey, Doc started in twenty did Doc start in Well

566
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: he started the twenty eleven All Star Game?

567
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: I think so, right, Yeah, he was all right afterwards.

568
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: Come on, that's time. That's Doc going tipping their hat,

569
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: hitting the spread and jumping on their.

570
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 5: So we got some fans, So we got some listener

571
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: questions last night.

572
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: You want me to run through a few of these

573
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: before we sign off?

574
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, only pithy ones only only.

575
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, we get I'll start with the

576
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 5: pithy is.

577
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of you.

578
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's some trade stuff on there, right.

579
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: Well yeah, so, and this is kind of hard to say.

580
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: Who do you this is? This is a good one.

581
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: This is from Dan. Who do you think is the

582
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: highest rated prospect in play for the Phillies to trade

583
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: at the trade deadline? I mean, you guys don't have

584
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: the prospect list right in front of you, but I mean,

585
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, I would say that

586
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: Aiden Miller and Andrew Painter. Yeah, yeah, Well, and your

587
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: painter are probably absolute no goes no right, yeah, I

588
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: unless you're gonna get somebody like Juan Sot at the deadline.

589
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm putting into Painter, Aiden Miller and Crawford.

590
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 5: I'm not on your no going on your no trade.

591
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: Because centerfield has been such an issue around here for years.

592
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: You might have a guy who could you know in time,

593
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: He's going to need time to get here, but the

594
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: guy might be able to hold that position down seven eight,

595
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: nine years. I'm very reluctant to move Crawford. I am

596
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: not moving Aiden Miller, I'm not moving Antwer Painter. I

597
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: know Dave Dobrowski's aggressive, but he ain't moving those guys.

598
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think he would move able, and

599
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: I think he moved Crawford. I don't know that, but

600
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: I mean they're they're outfielders.

601
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 4: I believe they would move able. Just because his develop

602
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: line has been slow, his development curve has been slow,

603
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: and I'm sure there's some frustration he's not throwing strikes.

604
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: But every time I look at Christopher Sanchez, I am

605
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 4: reminded that it takes time to starting pitching. And I'm

606
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: also I also know how important it is starting pitching,

607
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: and it's it's awesome when you can build your own

608
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: starting pitching, get him, get them there on the low

609
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: end of the salary cycle, and get contributions from them.

610
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: I understand they might move able. I am in no

611
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: rush to move him though, No.

612
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: Not necessarily. Plus his overall value is probably a lot

613
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: lighter than it was. You know, is he going to

614
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: get you? Is he going to get you like a

615
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: blue chip player, like a bona fide player, And I

616
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: don't know that he will necessarily just based on his

617
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: performance this year.

618
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: Well, especially if you if we're talking about when people

619
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: talk about the Phillies need the trade down, there's a

620
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: lot of talk about an outfielder that can from the

621
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: right hand side, that can maybe give you a little

622
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: bit more pop the proverbial like third slash fourth outfielder

623
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: that's Nickabel. Seems like maybe a steep price for that

624
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: type of player, right for.

625
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: Me, Right, unless it's gonna be a middle of the

626
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: lineup type of a guy down road or something like

627
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: that that you can like lock in for a for

628
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: a while. You know, I don't know if there's a

629
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 3: guy out there like that that would be you know,

630
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: all that's exciting. Most of the guys aren't having great years.

631
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you think Dave Nebraski is going big game

632
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: hunting or around the edge hunting.

633
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's going to start with the big game.

634
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: I think he might end up having to settle for

635
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: small game. Yeah, if you're not the squirrels in the rapids,

636
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: no disrespect, try to juggle both of those balls, not

637
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: the elks, not the elks.

638
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: I guess it depends what happens come July, you know,

639
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: July twenty ninth, July thirtieth, right, I mean some team

640
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: comes at you and says, this guy's available, and.

641
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: Is that I guess that don't you have to resist that?

642
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: Urge Ruben. I mean, it's fascinating under the circumstances. Listen,

643
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: this is a team that's built to win. If if

644
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: there's a piece out there that I know is going

645
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: to take us to the next level and put us

646
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: in a position to like, put us in a no

647
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: doubt position. I thought, like I thought that way in

648
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: twenty eleven. But that said, and then we got beat

649
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: up in the in the playoffs. But if you have

650
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: a if you have an opportunity to go get somebody

651
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: that's really special to take it to the next level. Man,

652
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: It's it's tough to make that. It's tough not to

653
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: make a deal like that, because it's win time, man,

654
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: it's win time period. That's the goal.

655
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: A lot of questions about wit Mayfield. Will they consider

656
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: moving on from what Mayorfield? Any chance they keep Clemmings

657
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: up and send Mirrorfield, you know, or release Marorfield, whatever.

658
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: When Harper Schwarber, Ria Muto, I mean Meorfield continues continues

659
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: to struggle.

660
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: I look this up this morning.

661
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: Out of two hundred ninety eight hitters in Major League

662
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Baseball that have put one hundred balls in play, he

663
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: has last an average exit velocity. Not that you necessarily

664
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: need that number to see that he's not hitting the

665
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: ball hard, but he is not hitting the ball hard

666
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 2: eighty three point four miles an hour. He's betting one

667
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: eighty eight five sixty ops. And we've talked about this before.

668
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: I've raised this before. It's not like he's on pace

669
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy five played appearances, and come on,

670
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: you can't expect Whittmer. He's on pace for a little

671
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: bit more than three hundred played appearances for the season,

672
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: seems like he should be hitting the ball a little

673
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: bit better.

674
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: Considering that, yeah.

675
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: He might, he might be in trouble here in a

676
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: few weeks because he just hasn't shown enough. I mean,

677
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 4: we're over the halfway point of the season, and as

678
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: Ruben was saying, if you think there's one piece that

679
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: you bring in, it's going to put you over the

680
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: top ball on the same token, if that piece is

681
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: in house and you need to keep him in the

682
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: major leagues and across the other guy who's roster spot,

683
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: I think you have to consider it.

684
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: So I think all I think about is if he's

685
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: not the guy and he's not producing, then there's a

686
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: guy like West and Wilson that's out there that's starting

687
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: to really swing the bat well, who can do some

688
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: more things. He now, WIT's not running as well, he's

689
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: obviously not impacting the baseball as well. I love with Merrifield.

690
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: I love the signing and the whole process of thought

691
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: about getting him and what he means to the team.

692
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: But as we talked about before, now he's going to

693
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: get a chance to play all the way up through

694
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: the All Star break a lot and I think this

695
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: is the time to find out whether he can really

696
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: contribute it. If he can't, then they may release him.

697
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: He may not be a part of the team's come

698
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: you know, late July. I don't like to say that,

699
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: because there's people's lives you're dealing with and stuff like that,

700
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: and he's probably still a viable major League baseball player,

701
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: but at some point you may have to place him

702
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: with somebody who's gonna be contributing a little bit more.

703
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris wants to know. This is more of a

704
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: off the beaten path. One favorite Harry Callous story, says

705
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: you've all interacted with him.

706
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: A favorite Harry Callis story. A lot of we can

707
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 3: we can see on the air.

708
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: Some of them are you can't tell, but there's a

709
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 4: lot of good ones.

710
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Let me let me just say this. I had the

711
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: great privilege of being able to sit in the back

712
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: of the plane with Harry Callous on the road trips.

713
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: And there was only one guy that got to sit

714
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: back there and Harry spot and it was Harry. He

715
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: would sit back there and have a beer and you know,

716
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: smoke his new ports. Uh. And you know I would

717
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: have I would have a I would have a heater

718
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: or two with him and just talk and just be

719
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: with him, and to me, those are the memories and

720
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: those are the things that that really meant our special

721
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: to me. The other quick story, I will say that

722
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: he made my very first home run call. I hit

723
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: it at the Vet. It was my first start of

724
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: my career with the Phillies when Lenny Deischer went down.

725
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: I went three for four something with a couple of

726
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: doubles and a homer. And after I hit the home run,

727
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 3: after the game, he had his call spliced and taped

728
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: and he gave it to me in a cassette tape

729
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: and I still have it, and you know, for years

730
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: I would play it every once in a while, just

731
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: et cetera, pump myself up. But it's just the coolest.

732
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: It is one of the coolest things of those things

733
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: of Memorabilian memories that I have, and nothing I will

734
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: ever forget. The one thing I.

735
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 4: Will go ahead, Tom, Sorry, no, I was gonna say.

736
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say about Harry is, you know,

737
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: you guys get this a lot too, is what's this

738
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: guy like?

739
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: What's this guy like?

740
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: I can say that I every single time I saw

741
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: Harry interact with a fan. He treated them like they

742
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: were the great, like long lost friends, super you know,

743
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: interested in what they had to say. He would sign autographs,

744
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: he would you know, take photos with them every single time.

745
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: I never saw him walk away and go, oh my gosh,

746
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, or you know, I don't have time right now,

747
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: Sorry about that, I apologize. He made time for everybody

748
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: all the time. He really enjoyed the relationship that he

749
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: had with the Phillies fan base.

750
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was great to be like. Larry Anderson's great

751
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 4: to people too. People come up want to meet with

752
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: Larry Anderson. He's great to everybody, treats everybody very kindly,

753
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 4: and Harry was the same way. I have a couple

754
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: of personal thrills with Harry. One he announced two of

755
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: my daughters were born in the summer, and he announced

756
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: them on the radio when they were born. That was

757
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: a that was really neat. I wish I had a

758
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: tape of that. And another time, one of my buddies

759
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: was turning forty and I called up and he was big.

760
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: He is a big Harry fan, and I called him

761
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: up and said, hey, I'd love to get an autographed

762
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: ball for my buddy's birthday, He's having a party and

763
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 4: he said, come on over the house. So I drove

764
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 4: over to his house in Media and uh, he took

765
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: me a little office and took took me in the

766
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: little office and he signed the baseball. But the office

767
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: was just loaded beautiful memorabilia, and I was I felt

768
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: like I was in a museum looking around, and he

769
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: had one of my stories on the wall. The night, Uh,

770
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: Richie Ashburn passed away in New York City up up

771
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: at at the Grand Hyatt, and then the Phillies were

772
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: playing the Mets that night we were having they were

773
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 4: having a series against the Mets and they won that game,

774
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: won nothing, which was really fitting because he was, you know,

775
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: Richie Ashburn, War number one. Kevin Jordan had the big hit,

776
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 4: Reuben's buddy, and that story was and I was really

777
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: touched by that. But and I was there the day

778
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: we lost him in Washing and I can still remember

779
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: the pain in Dave Montgomery's voice as he announced it.

780
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: And I remember driving home from Washington that night with

781
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: Paul Hagen and really we just reminisced the whole way

782
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: and it was really, uh, you know, you had to

783
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: pit in your stomach It's just like an honor to

784
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: know him.

785
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: No doubt that that was actually like what the first

786
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: game of the season on the road for me as

787
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: my my GMD one of my gm D a bus.

788
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: So that was a pretty poignant moment for me and

789
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: really so sad. And I was there when when Richie

790
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: passed away. I was on the team at the hotel

791
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: when I got the call for John Bukovic to let

792
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: me know, it's like, yeah, holy smokes, it was. That

793
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: was rough stuff, man, rough stuff iconic people and iconic

794
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: members of our for our fan base.

795
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: You know.

796
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still cool to hear, you know, I to

797
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: here uh at Citizens Bank Park every time the Philly

798
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: is at a home run.

799
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: That's that's That's all he say.

800
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: Uh, ball on right down the middle.

801
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: He was so great. All so let's end with this.

802
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: Uh, this is Pat Kritz and our buddy six though,

803
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: UH wanted to know another holiday weekend approaches what he

804
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: grill and fillows or is six to wants to be

805
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: more specific?

806
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 5: He says, are hot wieners on Jim's menu for the fourth.

807
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: Because if you were calling, if you recall a couple

808
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, Jim, you were talking about how you

809
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: had many hot wieners up in Rhode Island that you

810
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: would cook, right.

811
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, nothing like a Jim the hot waiter stand

812
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: to get those. But there there's something these little stubby

813
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 4: dogs with mustard onion sell steam pump. But on my

814
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 4: menu for July, I might get the smoker out and

815
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: then oh nice, have a potpourri of smoked meats.

816
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. So was that like? Is that like Canadian

817
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: smoked meats? Is that the kind of.

818
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 4: I love Montre Todd and I used to love Montreal

819
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: smoked meat. We used to stake it out late at night,

820
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: remember that, Yeah, we did.

821
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: We would go to this not even a T shirt,

822
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 5: SA shirt, Oh my gosh, I.

823
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: Wish that's only.

824
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: It was a place called Bens and it has since

825
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: closed down. But they had these great smoke meat sandwiches

826
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: in Montreal. We would go there late night and smoked meat. Fantastic, fantastic.

827
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: I do not have that T shirt. I think it

828
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: got a little U stand like wor too much.

829
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 4: The famous one is Schwartz.

830
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: Schwartz got Street Laurent centerron or Saint Catherine's Si Laurent.

831
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 4: Swartz and that's that's that's a great smoked meat or

832
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: as they call it in French, beyond beyond me.

833
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 5: Only would they smoked in in uh shop.

834
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: And I know how to order in French.

835
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: Nice.

836
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: I will not Well, I'll be still in Chicago on

837
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: July fourth, so I won't be I won't be grilling

838
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: on anything, but I will try to get a Chicago

839
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: style dog somewhere while i'm there.

840
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 3: Those are great.

841
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: In fact, Jim, a couple of weeks ago, when we

842
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: were talking about your mini wieners that you like, you

843
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: talk about putting celery salt on him. So that that

844
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: day or that weekend, I actually went out and tried

845
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: to recreate a Chicago style dog with a cellary salt.

846
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: And it was, Oh, it's fantasticelery salt on the dog.

847
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's you know, it's just a nice little sprinkle,

848
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: a little sprinkle, little little taste.

849
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. So what about the pizzas in Chicago to

850
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: you to go? Might I might try to do lou

851
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: mal Nadies.

852
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: I feel like is a solid, solid choice, So I

853
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: might try to go to the lou mal Natis. That's

854
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: the problem when you go on the road, you feel

855
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: like you have to get a deep dish piece and Chicago,

856
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: and then you gotta get a Chicago style dog. And

857
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: then you come back and you're like, why do I

858
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: feel so gross out of shape?

859
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

860
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: The road the time, I'm gonna have to get in

861
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: some treadmill time.

862
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 5: So Phillies open up a three game series Tuesday night.

863
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: Against the Cubs.

864
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Speaker 2: Michael Mercado makes his first major league start on Tuesday

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Speaker 3: So then you have.

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Speaker 2: go to Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: So big week for the Phillies, big road trip for

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Speaker 2: We'll be back later this week to talk about Chicago

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