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Speaker 1: is gonna get a bottle of booze from me, beautiful
Speaker 1: and uh I set it before. I just want to
Speaker 1: admit it again. The Hurricanes were better, much better than
Speaker 1: the Cavalier's Boy. That was evident on the TV screen.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that, I mean, that's fine, but I
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Speaker 1: That's true. Here's where here's what's coming up on the show.
Speaker 1: Of course Ramsey reaction. Well, who here from some of
Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room and get some statements
Speaker 1: from the owner and the e v P of Football Ops.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars offense. Can they bounce back defensive takeaways? They
Speaker 1: didn't have any last week? They only have one on
Speaker 1: defense all year. An FC South Preview and Thursday Night Football.
Speaker 1: That's all coming up. Let's get to the reaction after
Speaker 1: the trade of Jalen Ramsey to the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 1: The locker room open yesterday for the first time since then.
Speaker 1: Miles Jack had a few things to say. I was
Speaker 1: getting the massage watching Black Mirror, and uh, the notification
Speaker 1: came up on my phone. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: joke and then I like went through Twitter and saying
Speaker 1: it was for real, and like me, I wouldn't to
Speaker 1: have like happy about it because that's my teammate. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like Jayalen is one of the better defense
Speaker 1: as the players in the league, if not in the league.
Speaker 1: So um, I definitely love playing with them. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish him nothing but the best. But I didn't
Speaker 1: want it. I didn't want to see him go. Now
Speaker 1: let's here, let's keep it on the defensive side. A J.
Speaker 1: Boyer the cornerback on the other side. He's really now
Speaker 1: the only player left that started in the seen and
Speaker 1: the secondary. I got the news last night. I texted
Speaker 1: him immediately. You know, um, you know you wish that
Speaker 1: he was still here, but it's a great opportunity for
Speaker 1: him as an individual. So um, you know, I wish
Speaker 1: him nothing but the best. I told him that. You know,
Speaker 1: he wished the best for me too, So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm still the last one here from seventeen me and
Speaker 1: uh dub so, uh, you know, we just gotta keep
Speaker 1: pushing forward. Dubble is Jared Wilson, who's now starting for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. But those the only two guys left in
Speaker 1: the secondary. So there's a lot of that kind of
Speaker 1: tone in the locker room. Nobody came out and bashed Jalen.
Speaker 1: It was all kind of moving ahead and glad for him,
Speaker 1: and now you can move forward as a team. What
Speaker 1: do you think bellis, Uh, you can do his laugh Huh. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of the players are
Speaker 1: are glad that that it's over with and probably don't
Speaker 1: feel any need to take part in shots. I think
Speaker 1: one of the disappointing things that you hear, you know,
Speaker 1: Miles Jack and maybe he's just being nice, but he's
Speaker 1: talking about you know, a teammate of mine. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I hate to see him go. Well, I hate to
Speaker 1: see teammates not want to play because of some type
Speaker 1: of disrespect from an executive level employee. And and I
Speaker 1: was preparing for this game this week and I came
Speaker 1: across a quote by B. W. Webb, who happens to
Speaker 1: be the starting nickelback for the Cincinnati Bengals, who broke
Speaker 1: his arm in Week two, missed the following week and
Speaker 1: then came right back and started playing with a cast
Speaker 1: on his arm. And he said this, I'm counting on them,
Speaker 1: talking about his teammates, I'm counting on them just like
Speaker 1: they're counting on me. It's a no brainer that I
Speaker 1: should play. It's a little different then what we've heard
Speaker 1: around here. Yeah, it's a little different here. Here's the
Speaker 1: truth about You're crazy if you think that those guys
Speaker 1: in the locker room didn't know what Jenny wanted to
Speaker 1: get about. Here. Guys in the locker room talk. We're
Speaker 1: not talking a lot. You may not talk in the
Speaker 1: locker room, but outside the locker room. It had to
Speaker 1: be some merit that Jayalen was telling somebody on this
Speaker 1: team that he was trying to get up out of here. Now,
Speaker 1: the method in which he used to get up out
Speaker 1: of here he probably didn't display. But when that confrontation
Speaker 1: with Tom Coughland happened, Allegedly after Houston, Jalen talked to
Speaker 1: somebody on that team. He's like, hey, bro, I gotta
Speaker 1: get up out of here. And it was told he
Speaker 1: was said it had to be said, and whatever tactics
Speaker 1: was he deemed necessary to use, he used them. And
Speaker 1: he saw him in the presser today with the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, and they asked him, how's the back? Do
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna play Sunday? And what did he say?
Speaker 1: He sounds feeling my back is feeling good. You know,
Speaker 1: I might you know, Mike, I'm you know, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying verbatim. What if there's paraphrases, but he said,
Speaker 1: my back is feeling good. You know, we'll we'll see,
Speaker 1: if you know, if I'm able to play on Sunday.
Speaker 1: He's playing on Sunday. Of course he's playing on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I listen. I I had a profound respect for Jalen's
Speaker 1: ability on the football field. I mean, I think he's
Speaker 1: an outstanding corner. I think it's a generational corner. But
Speaker 1: his antics as a player or as a teammate suck.
Speaker 1: That's just the bottom line. It sucks. You can say
Speaker 1: what you want to say. He played this organization, he
Speaker 1: played this city, he's paid, he played this fan base.
Speaker 1: He did what he deemed necessary to get out of Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: He got his wish. But I think you know one thing. Look,
Speaker 1: Leon and Leon and I have been in lock room
Speaker 1: for we're reaching there for a decade and we always
Speaker 1: kind of had a philosophy that there is a time
Speaker 1: for business, and that time for business is when the
Speaker 1: season ends until the season starts, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: talking like, Look, business can even be conducted sometimes in
Speaker 1: training camp, can be conducted in mini camp, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's God chooses not to show up. We've seen
Speaker 1: that a lot. That's all okay, and that's then that's fair.
Speaker 1: But once you get in the regular season, if I
Speaker 1: were to do that, now I'm on Leon's time, okay,
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play games on
Speaker 1: Leon's time because that affects him. That affects his ability
Speaker 1: to be the best that he can be. It affects
Speaker 1: the ability for him to be the best earner that
Speaker 1: he can be because of my actions. And so if
Speaker 1: Jalen didn't lose respect in that locker room, then there's
Speaker 1: a problem in the locker room down the hall. So
Speaker 1: I would say that, Um, I'm glad that he's that
Speaker 1: he's that he's gone. I hate to see because Leon
Speaker 1: is right, he's a great player, and you cannot replace
Speaker 1: great players just Willie Milly easily, it doesn't happen. But
Speaker 1: you also can't sit back, and you couldn't sit back
Speaker 1: and deal with somebody who was jaking an injury because
Speaker 1: that's the fact. And how do you say that, Well,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. Well, look, Duckron came out to day
Speaker 1: I was talked about, well General was injured. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: are the Los Angeles Rams gonna give up two first
Speaker 1: and a fourth for a guy that has a back issue? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they're with a back injury. So the fact that the
Speaker 1: trade was executed and he passes a physical essentially says
Speaker 1: he was faking the back injury. And in thirty one
Speaker 1: years that I've been around the National Football League, been
Speaker 1: directly involved in the National Football League, I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like it, not not to get traded. Now. When
Speaker 1: I first came into my rookie year with the Pittsburgh Stills,
Speaker 1: because our training camps were a lot different back then
Speaker 1: than they are now, veteran guys would tell me how
Speaker 1: to get out of day or practice just a day, practice,
Speaker 1: two days full, get where it would They pulled back
Speaker 1: because the back is hard to God knows, you know,
Speaker 1: sore bad spasman back just to get a day off,
Speaker 1: but not to get a trade. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: this was day by day, back back back, miss what
Speaker 1: two games, three games, three games to get your way
Speaker 1: and you left your teammates out to drive. Because I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that if Jayda Ramsey had played in the
Speaker 1: end of those games it would have been a difference,
Speaker 1: but it showed them. Well, sure it would have helped,
Speaker 1: you know, That's all I'm saying. And then it sounds
Speaker 1: like it might not stop here either. If you're here here,
Speaker 1: d n Sanders comments the day after the trade, and
Speaker 1: he might not stop. Well, Dion basically he said that
Speaker 1: he won't last more than about a year in l
Speaker 1: A because of the state taxes, and he took a
Speaker 1: pay cut going to l A. I mean the STADIU
Speaker 1: income tax, and uh, the cost of living increase is
Speaker 1: going to be significant. So the point is if they
Speaker 1: think this kind of talk and the way they've gone
Speaker 1: about the business here is gonna stop just because there's
Speaker 1: a new environment, I don't think it's gonna stop because
Speaker 1: there's a new environment. Whether that's a healthy price to
Speaker 1: pay by the Rams if they don't give this to them,
Speaker 1: get him a long term deal. To give up two
Speaker 1: ones and a four four kids is not going to sign.
Speaker 1: I mean, who's who's the GM out there? That wouldn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. I would imagine that some of those
Speaker 1: parameters have been discussed with Jaalen and his camp. They
Speaker 1: would have to be I would assume, But I think
Speaker 1: I think my concern. First of all, if I was
Speaker 1: a general manager, which I'm not, but if I was,
Speaker 1: if I slept at a certain motel hotel and then
Speaker 1: woke up and I'm a general manager tomorrow, I would
Speaker 1: not trade for a jail own Ramsey. I wouldn't do
Speaker 1: it because what's what's to prevent him from two years
Speaker 1: from now saying you give him a new deal. Now,
Speaker 1: two years from now, something happens to him that he
Speaker 1: doesn't like, and then all of a sudden, he said,
Speaker 1: you know, I want out. Where were you at? Where
Speaker 1: you're at, You're you're with without a player that uh,
Speaker 1: maybe a generational player, but he's got to want to
Speaker 1: play to be a generational player. And then I'm all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, as a general manager, I will be
Speaker 1: out two first round picks in the fourth round pick
Speaker 1: do what do I want to put that at risk?
Speaker 1: Am I arrogant enough to think that I can I
Speaker 1: can make this environment better to where General Ramsey won't
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, to me, that's kind of arrogant
Speaker 1: to assume that you can make this place better that
Speaker 1: he won't do that, And I, to me, I just
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it. And he has a history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have done it. He could be a repeat
Speaker 1: history if he doesn't get his way at the same
Speaker 1: way two years for now, you know, it's to me,
Speaker 1: that's ah, it's good for the Jaguars, though, I mean
Speaker 1: good for the Jaguars. Good job by Dave Caldwell of
Speaker 1: getting a first in and then the first and a fourth.
Speaker 1: I I'm surprised that I'm first of all, I'm not surprised,
Speaker 1: but I am surprised at the end because we're not
Speaker 1: talking about a player who who they just decided to trade.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a disgruntled player who is
Speaker 1: faking an injury essentially to not play because he wanted
Speaker 1: to be traded. And I'm surprised at the willingness for
Speaker 1: a trade partner to give to that level for a
Speaker 1: player that has that going on. Uh. I thought that
Speaker 1: what with what Jalen was pulling, that it would affect
Speaker 1: the value to work a deal out like that, And
Speaker 1: maybe it did. Maybe the maybe the value would have
Speaker 1: been higher if he wasn't doing what he was doing
Speaker 1: and if he liked played over the last three games
Speaker 1: and was playing well, maybe they get a first in
Speaker 1: the first and a second. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, but kudos to
Speaker 1: to Dave Caldwell for we're getting that trade. I think
Speaker 1: it's a good deal for the Jaguars and and certainly
Speaker 1: it's it's always good for the Jaguars just to get
Speaker 1: a player out of here who doesn't want to be here,
Speaker 1: and then to be able to receive something on the
Speaker 1: back end of that, I think makes it even sweeter.
Speaker 1: All Right, So it is done. Jaylor Ramsey has gone.
Speaker 1: The Jags have draft picks coming in the next two
Speaker 1: drafts as payment for that, and now they've got to
Speaker 1: move ahead. And we'll come back in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk offense. We'll talk defense and how the
Speaker 1: defense moves forward. Well, they've been without him for three weeks.
Speaker 1: But how they bounced back last week and play the
Speaker 1: solid game against the Saints. Can they do that again
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Speaker 1: You learn from it, you move on, and you can't
Speaker 1: let it come pound into the next week. That's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing as a quarterback in this league, as a
Speaker 1: coaching this league, you have to have short term memory.
Speaker 1: If you don't have short term memory, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: last long in this league. So that's been my thing
Speaker 1: with Gardner this week and myself and we've kind of
Speaker 1: teams up together this week to have short term memory
Speaker 1: to move on and go play well against Cincinnati. John D. Flippo,
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator today discussing the bounce back for the quarterback
Speaker 1: and the offense from a week ago. Welcome back, Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy r J P. Shatrick Lee on Serci Jeff Logaman,
Speaker 1: the Jags and the Bengals coming up, and Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars offense struggled last week. They had a lot of
Speaker 1: early three and ounce sakash In a couple field goals,
Speaker 1: couldn't get in the end zone, and Gardner Minshew had
Speaker 1: his worst outing so far as the starting quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. The question now is how can Gardner
Speaker 1: meant you the second bounce back we heard from the
Speaker 1: quarterback this week? Just seeing new looks every week. It's
Speaker 1: only been like, what six games so far, so each
Speaker 1: team presents new coverages, new challenges, um different ways they're
Speaker 1: gonna attack us, you know, in different ways we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to attack them. So it's it's definitely learning each
Speaker 1: week and uh, you know, hope to learn every game
Speaker 1: I play from you know here to the end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: new looks a lot of these weeks. What did the
Speaker 1: Saints show him last week that he had not seen?
Speaker 1: And what can we expect from the Bengals who have
Speaker 1: struggled on the defensive side, well coverage wire as they
Speaker 1: saw a lot of two men, which it's it's something
Speaker 1: that they've seen before, but I don't think it was
Speaker 1: something that they saw with the regularity that they did
Speaker 1: against the Saints. And also that was something that the
Speaker 1: Saints didn't play a lot of to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: as as a team, and one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: that was allowable or that the Saints were able to
Speaker 1: do that is the average distance to go on third
Speaker 1: down for the Jaguars was like seven point four yards,
Speaker 1: So average on third down is like three point seven
Speaker 1: yards a clip. So when a defense gets to three
Speaker 1: to third down in seven yards to go, it gives
Speaker 1: them a lot of flexibility to do certain things. In
Speaker 1: first and foremost, that allows them to play Cover two
Speaker 1: and any form of Cover two, which is essentially is
Speaker 1: a past defense and it is a run deficient defense.
Speaker 1: So now they can play for the past. They can
Speaker 1: play to man, and they're playing that because they're not
Speaker 1: worried about the run. Well, if the Jaguars were in
Speaker 1: third and three or third and four, then the Saints
Speaker 1: will not be able to dial up to man because
Speaker 1: they would be concerned about Leonard four Nett and his
Speaker 1: ability with the Jaguars to run the football and convert
Speaker 1: the chains and move on. So part of it is
Speaker 1: not just the fact that you face Cover two man.
Speaker 1: The other part is is that you need to have
Speaker 1: some early down success on first down and second down,
Speaker 1: which was kind of ore out of character for the
Speaker 1: Jaguars because going into that game, they were second in
Speaker 1: the National Football League and yards gained on first down
Speaker 1: and they were only second to the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 1: so they have been having early down success. But they
Speaker 1: then against the Saints, they saw a lot of two
Speaker 1: men which they weren't expecting. And I think from a
Speaker 1: player standpoint and from a coaching standpoint, they weren't prepared
Speaker 1: to face that because they hadn't seen it, and they
Speaker 1: had become accustomed to getting that, and they weren't seeing
Speaker 1: that from the SATs at all in preparation. Leon, this
Speaker 1: is the first chance we'll have to see how Gardner
Speaker 1: meants you responds to a subpar statistical day. You know what.
Speaker 1: I almost wanted to almost wanted to see Gardener missue
Speaker 1: in a game where he struggled early, to see him
Speaker 1: come back and you know, bounce back. But this was
Speaker 1: a situation where the whole game he really stroke. He
Speaker 1: looked like a rookie for the first time. I know
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about Missue made and everything like that.
Speaker 1: He's been so spectacular, but this is the first time
Speaker 1: that he actually looked like a rook like he was
Speaker 1: like Jack Lackman was saying, the Saints had a plan.
Speaker 1: They were gonna put the jack walls in the third
Speaker 1: and long situation, you know, the Jaguars and first down,
Speaker 1: second down. You know we're either had losses or we're
Speaker 1: getting that many yards. It's the hard for any quarterback
Speaker 1: to have to go up against third and long with
Speaker 1: that situation. So he was indecisive. He chucked the ball
Speaker 1: a lot. He was he you know, he wasn't confident
Speaker 1: with his throws. He scrambled around a bit in the pocket.
Speaker 1: Didn't want to scramble. So that was really the first
Speaker 1: time he actually looked and and not only him, but
Speaker 1: I was watching Juwan Taylor. Juanna Taylor for the first
Speaker 1: time went up against all pro I mean he, I
Speaker 1: mean he went against j j Wat did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job. But we talked about ja had lost a
Speaker 1: step or two. But when he played against Jordan's Jordan's
Speaker 1: you gotta understand these coordinators, these players, they watched film.
Speaker 1: Now they've got enough film on on Missue to see
Speaker 1: what works again and what he likes, what he doesn't like,
Speaker 1: and they put a plan together for him. Say away
Speaker 1: with Jawn. He struggled to be he gave up the
Speaker 1: two sacks is because I was watching him during camp.
Speaker 1: He holsters his hands, which mean he's carried his hands
Speaker 1: too low. He doesn't carry him high enough. And then
Speaker 1: his timing when his punch was off and and Cameron
Speaker 1: Jordan's he saw that and he exposed him on that.
Speaker 1: And you're a rookie, you have a bad game. I
Speaker 1: had a bad game. I gave up three sacks in
Speaker 1: one game. And then two years lya I was looking
Speaker 1: for the same guy and I got him back. But
Speaker 1: but those are the type of games you grow and
Speaker 1: you learn from it. So men should he had grown
Speaker 1: here and learned, and he's going up against the team
Speaker 1: where he should have a lot of success against. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the trick this week. The Cincinnati defense struggles statistically
Speaker 1: and pretty much any metric who you want to use.
Speaker 1: They have not played well this year well first and
Speaker 1: foremost dead last in the National Football League against the run,
Speaker 1: and I think part of that is that they've had
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries, a lot of front guys that
Speaker 1: have been hurt from Glasgow to carry win Carlo's dunlap.
Speaker 1: In fact, they put win on injury reserve this week
Speaker 1: and um, you know, he had a concussion issue. And
Speaker 1: then they Anthony Zettel, who was with the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: I believe most recently. So they're trying to trying to
Speaker 1: fortify their roster right now, but they've got issues. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that that should happen
Speaker 1: will happen against the Bengals is that Leonard Fournette has
Speaker 1: success on the ground and allows Gardner Minshe to kind
Speaker 1: of calm his world down because the world wasn't calm
Speaker 1: against the Saints. In two ways that you can see
Speaker 1: that One how fast ward his feet moving, which that's
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever seen multiple plays where the
Speaker 1: feet get choppy when I say the Peyton Manning type
Speaker 1: feet of Peyton did it. But he was never nervous.
Speaker 1: He was just trying to create balance in his footwork.
Speaker 1: But kind of that look. And then also how quickly
Speaker 1: the head moved with Gardner Minshew in this past game.
Speaker 1: He saw a lot of head movement and uh, and
Speaker 1: when you see a lot of head movement, is he
Speaker 1: he's unsure that what he's gonna do with the football.
Speaker 1: I think at times he was checking the rush and
Speaker 1: uh and he wasn't trusting his protection, which for the
Speaker 1: most part I thought leon besides the two plays that
Speaker 1: that Cam Jordan's got, I thought it was okay, it was.
Speaker 1: It was decent three times all day. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: enough enough. Camp Be said about the fact that they
Speaker 1: went up against a playoff team that was literally a
Speaker 1: pass interception, a passive deferience away from being in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So they saw an elite team minus Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: So I was a very good football team. And when
Speaker 1: I want to episide really good football team, look at
Speaker 1: who they played going in that game, Seattle. Who's at
Speaker 1: Seattle Dallas? They played some teams they didn't play. They
Speaker 1: didn't played the Patriots schedule. And I'm not criticized in
Speaker 1: New England Patriots because they're well, their schedule is criticize,
Speaker 1: criticized schedule. I'm not going to criticize them. But the
Speaker 1: Saints schedule, they arguably have had the toughest schedule maybe
Speaker 1: in the league going into that games. I mean, you
Speaker 1: will talk about battle testing and a and a really
Speaker 1: good balance football team. When I say balance, I'm talking
Speaker 1: all three phases. Their defense is good, special teams that
Speaker 1: quality returner. UH, and offensively with with one of the
Speaker 1: best backs in the league and arguably the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver in league. That's a tough challenge. Teddy hold it
Speaker 1: together until Breeze gets home. And he has some shaky moments,
Speaker 1: I thought in that ball game, but I thought he
Speaker 1: pulled it together a little bit. And the Jaguars rush
Speaker 1: I think missed some opportunities early in that ball game,
Speaker 1: and uh, and Teddy was able to kind of stabilize
Speaker 1: a little bit and get his crap together. But UH,
Speaker 1: tough game, tough game, and UH and learning experience for Gardner. Minshew,
Speaker 1: that's is this a bigger game? You? You said the
Speaker 1: run that you think that's gonna have a big game.
Speaker 1: How about in the passing game when they start to
Speaker 1: establish this sink King Gardner throw it up. Will DJ
Speaker 1: have another day at the office. He's got an opportunity,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got uh. Dark Drake Kirkpatrick is expected
Speaker 1: to be out with a knee. There are other starting
Speaker 1: corner William Jackson third is expected to be out with
Speaker 1: a shoulder. Darkys Dennard, who has been there a slot
Speaker 1: guy in the past, is on p U p H
Speaker 1: so so leon here, here's your starting corners for the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals this week. Tory Tyler mc tyler mc tyer,
Speaker 1: who's five eleven, b W Webb who's five eleven, and
Speaker 1: Tony McGray who's five ten. Oh yeah, two of the
Speaker 1: starting corners are out for the game. Yeah. So but
Speaker 1: but but but before I'll take that all all day,
Speaker 1: all day before we can get to that, though, you
Speaker 1: got you look at the Bengals defense against the run.
Speaker 1: They've already getten up eleven hundred yards against the run,
Speaker 1: two hundred eight yards a game, five point three yards
Speaker 1: of carry. So if you want to get Garden the
Speaker 1: Menshew going the offensive line, you get that running game going,
Speaker 1: you get Leonard for that going. That's gonna open up
Speaker 1: all kind of lanes for the past of lane from
Speaker 1: Garden to menshow so I gotta start with they want
Speaker 1: run for us, I think. So it's like a get
Speaker 1: right Sunday for the Jags in Cincinnati, at least on
Speaker 1: the offensive. I was writing my little piece for the
Speaker 1: experts column that goes on Jaguars dot Com, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you never want to say that this is uh must
Speaker 1: win or winnable game or an easy win or anything like.
Speaker 1: As Terry Robiski told me earlier today, the running back coach,
Speaker 1: there's no homecoming game in the NFL, and there's not
Speaker 1: and there's not. And look, the minute used to take
Speaker 1: an ohen six team lightly or no for team at
Speaker 1: any point in the season. Then you're gonna get humbled.
Speaker 1: So you've got to come ready to play, and and
Speaker 1: also come ready to play against a football team that
Speaker 1: hasn't been playing very well, and also in a very
Speaker 1: unemotional environment. It's gonna it's gonna be probably reminiscent of
Speaker 1: my days. But when I was at uv Ale, I'm
Speaker 1: going to play at Duke back before they got Steve
Speaker 1: Spurrier as their head coach, and people got excited about
Speaker 1: duke football and you had about ademic home exactly right. Look,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals fans right now are a little disgruntled.
Speaker 1: They're not showing up, and so it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: pretty quiet environment in Cincinnati a night. They've got two
Speaker 1: wins between the Teamsville. Here's the reality that the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are not a draw in Cincinnati, and the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: two in football team. And look, I appreciate the Jaguar fans.
Speaker 1: You know, they travel as best they can, but it's
Speaker 1: not like the Pittsburgh Steelers or or other historic NFL
Speaker 1: teams that they carry their own fan base with them
Speaker 1: wherever they go. You know. So, uh, this stadium is
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty quiet. We'll come back. Jaguars defense. How
Speaker 1: do they move ahead? What will that matchup look like
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour continues. Jaguars Defense. No Jalen Ramsey, of
Speaker 1: course traded to the Los Angeles Rams, so moving ahead
Speaker 1: or they haven't had him the last three weeks anyway,
Speaker 1: But what can we expect from this secondary now that
Speaker 1: you know he's not going to be around here? Guys, Leon,
Speaker 1: what do you think this thing is gonna look like? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, gave me a stat of I mean, guys
Speaker 1: want to roster and I don't feel as comfortable as
Speaker 1: I did that Will. Maybe five minutes ago he was
Speaker 1: saying that the DBS we have, which is amazing, it's
Speaker 1: a little concerning joy. Jared Wilson uh, let me give
Speaker 1: him too. I'll get I got him on. These are
Speaker 1: the three starters, Yes, exactly three starters. I mean you
Speaker 1: got Trey Herndon, a j boy, which he was a
Speaker 1: Texans undrafted guy. Brian Borders was a Raiders undrafted guy,
Speaker 1: Trey Winger Jaguars, Andrew and then Jared Wilson Jaguars undrafted
Speaker 1: got Cody Davis was an undrafted guy with who originally
Speaker 1: look it up, it was late it was another team,
Speaker 1: it was a different team. But I'll be six out
Speaker 1: of the ten dbs that you have in your secondary
Speaker 1: are or were undrafted guys, which is it's kind of surprising. St.
Speaker 1: Louis Rams for Davis. Okay. St. Louis Rams. I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty amazing, right, I mean, six out of
Speaker 1: ten dbs undrafted. The latest acquisition Perry Nickerson, who they
Speaker 1: acquired off of the Seattle Seahawks practice squad. He was
Speaker 1: a six round pick of the Jets last year. So hey, look,
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter how you get there, and that matters
Speaker 1: what you do when you're there. That's right. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean you look at the Jaguars in seventeen when they
Speaker 1: had all that success when you got to all pro
Speaker 1: corners and the whole sacks of Ville, they played hand
Speaker 1: in hand with one another, your ability to to cover
Speaker 1: and giving me that extra second or two to get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. So, um, but it won't matter this
Speaker 1: week because I've seen the Big Ones offensive line. They're terrible.
Speaker 1: They are the injury too. They heard they're hurting, they're
Speaker 1: hurting with injuries. Uh, and they're they're just not good.
Speaker 1: We had Willie Anderson on, you know, the All Pro
Speaker 1: right tackle from Cincinnati, he stays relevant with the team
Speaker 1: or whatever, and he just told me Leon, they're just
Speaker 1: not good. They're hurting, and they're they're not playing well.
Speaker 1: And it's obviously we wanna give up twenty two sacks,
Speaker 1: you know. And they're rushing the ball the only averaging
Speaker 1: with three point one yards of rush a hundred yards
Speaker 1: of game. So it's a struggling team right now. So
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's not our fault. We we we
Speaker 1: need we need to take advantage of we need to
Speaker 1: take advantage of the fact that they can't run the
Speaker 1: ball at all that well, they don't protect that well,
Speaker 1: and just gives us opportunities to feast on Sunday with
Speaker 1: our defense. Give you a little background on their injuries
Speaker 1: on offensive line. Corty Glenn, who is their normal starting
Speaker 1: left tackle, has been out a couple of weeks with
Speaker 1: a concussion, and then, uh two weeks ago against the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: Andrea Smith started and then he got hurt in that game,
Speaker 1: and then they moved John Jerry to left tackle. John
Speaker 1: Jerry also started last week at left guard. Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: started at left guard, and then into the game came
Speaker 1: Billy Price. Excuse me, he started last week against the
Speaker 1: Ravens because Michael Jordan's got hurt. At right guard, John
Speaker 1: Miller's the normal starter, he got it hurt last week
Speaker 1: and then Alex Redmond had to come in for him.
Speaker 1: The only guy that's they're the guys that have been
Speaker 1: consistent for the Bangals over the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: has been right tackle Bobby Hart and then center Trey Hopkins, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, Trey Hopkins is a good football player. UM,
Speaker 1: a pretty good football player I didn't know anything about,
Speaker 1: and watching him on film for the last a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, he's impressed me. And here's another thing that
Speaker 1: happens with the offensive line where you have injuries and
Speaker 1: guys there's no cohesiveness. I mean, guys, are you know,
Speaker 1: guys aren't working together. It's it's you want to have
Speaker 1: guys on the same page. You know. I always sell
Speaker 1: offensive linement like Mary to each other. You've gotta be
Speaker 1: able to trust the guy next to you with the calls,
Speaker 1: with the double teams and all that d of stood
Speaker 1: with the protections. So if you're shifting in these different components,
Speaker 1: different pieces weekend week out, as I can understand why
Speaker 1: they're struggling the way they've been struggled. They saw that
Speaker 1: here last year. Guys. I mean they've got happen. They've
Speaker 1: got ten offensive linemen on the roster right now because
Speaker 1: they just picked up a guy by the name of
Speaker 1: Fred Johnson, a rookie from Florida who was an undrafted guy.
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, so ten offensive line. That's very
Speaker 1: rare for a team to have ten offensive linemen on
Speaker 1: actor rocks are typically eight about your number and then
Speaker 1: if you've got, you know, a good one, you might
Speaker 1: go nine. Rarely do you see teams have ten. Well,
Speaker 1: they've got ten because they've got so many injuries on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. But none of them. None of them
Speaker 1: are gonna be significant injuries where they're gonna miss like
Speaker 1: four or five or six weeks. Therefore, that's why you
Speaker 1: got ten biggest, biggest day on the defensive line. Then
Speaker 1: who is it? I think anybody's But look here, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. You always go back to, who's the most
Speaker 1: talented player that you have on your defensive line or
Speaker 1: the most talented players? You start with Klass and then
Speaker 1: after that, I think it's a toss up. Do you
Speaker 1: go in Gockway or do you go Josh Allen? Uh.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's playing really well right now. Uh And Gockway
Speaker 1: he's getting close to at times. So I think any
Speaker 1: of those three guys and and look would be great
Speaker 1: if all three of them had had a heck of it.
Speaker 1: It would It's possible. We've seen that before. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see both. I'd like to see all three guys
Speaker 1: get at least two set and that's possible. Looking and
Speaker 1: I get got your credit. Smoot, Uh D want Smoots
Speaker 1: playing well. He played well last week, had a nice rush.
Speaker 1: He's been doing pretty good against the run. I've always
Speaker 1: been a guy that that I liked Smoots film when
Speaker 1: he came out college, and then I was disappointed I
Speaker 1: think in the first couple of years with some of
Speaker 1: his production, and then this year it looks like he's
Speaker 1: finally starting to break through. The guy that I think
Speaker 1: continues to disappoint me as Taven Brian. He got more
Speaker 1: snaps last week and he still can't find the football.
Speaker 1: Uh so uh in gock Way, Calais and Smoot and
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Those got to be the guys that that
Speaker 1: you get the main production from. Andy Dalton has been
Speaker 1: around this league for a long time now. It's amazing
Speaker 1: to think about that. You know what's amazing JP came
Speaker 1: in in Leon. When you're in the year for in
Speaker 1: the league for nine years, you would you would think
Speaker 1: that some of the what I call the gimme completions
Speaker 1: look like gimme's. You know, a clean pocket and then
Speaker 1: you've got a wide open wide receiver. It should be
Speaker 1: like playing catch. Andy Dalton actually has some of the
Speaker 1: worst numbers I think in the National Football League as
Speaker 1: far as ratings go with a clean pocket. The film
Speaker 1: that he put out there from last week against the
Speaker 1: Ravens game, I literally was going back and watching plays
Speaker 1: going is that really Andy Dalt, I mean it was bad,
Speaker 1: I mean really bad. And he has, uh this one
Speaker 1: wide receiver that made some really crazy catches to help
Speaker 1: him actually have some decent numbers. And his name is
Speaker 1: audent Ay to Florida State guy and he's a big guy,
Speaker 1: like a J Green similar number because he wears nineteen
Speaker 1: and uh turned and kind of rewounded a couple of
Speaker 1: times on him. Uh. But Andy Dalton's not playing very well.
Speaker 1: His numbers state that he's twenty six in the National
Speaker 1: Football League with an eighty two point eight rating. And
Speaker 1: that's about as pedestrian as you can get in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. That all the issues around him don't help.
Speaker 1: But even when there is a clean body, Yeah, when
Speaker 1: when a quarterback doesn't have a running game, which they
Speaker 1: have the worst rushing offense in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: And here are the numbers they are averaging. Hold onto
Speaker 1: your shorts here, folks, fifty six point five yards rushing
Speaker 1: a game. Their workhorse running back Joe Mixon's averaging three
Speaker 1: point four yards to carry. And do you Havevanni Bernard
Speaker 1: is averaging two point one yards per carry. That's not
Speaker 1: getting it done. That's pathetic. Can't do it and so
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I don't care. If you've got a great quarterback,
Speaker 1: his numbers aren't gonna be that good when he's got
Speaker 1: a running game like that. But when you've got an
Speaker 1: average at best quarterback, then his numbers become um. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say below the Mendoza line, because I
Speaker 1: don't think there is one for quarterback radios. But it
Speaker 1: becomes very apparent that that Annie Dalton can't can't do
Speaker 1: it by himself, and he's not he's not having a
Speaker 1: very good year. Let's come back. We'll touch the a
Speaker 1: f C South standings, the upcoming schedule in the division,
Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League. Thursday Night
Speaker 1: football coming up? All that, the Jackson, the Bengals coming tonight. Well,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen too often, but it does happen, uh
Speaker 1: you know. But I mean we went through a last
Speaker 1: year too with Dante. Uh, you know, it's a good player,
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Speaker 1: I kind of treated like I mean, the mama is
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's gone. The Jags move on to Cincinnati. We're
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Speaker 1: games that must win, you know, to get us right now.
Speaker 1: So I mean we we know what that state, nothing
Speaker 1: far behind it, you know, but it's coming out of
Speaker 1: competing has one of biggest thanks. Uh, just finishing and
Speaker 1: finding ways to win. You know, we came up shot
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of games have passed. You know,
Speaker 1: someone's by two points and something about two points, I'm
Speaker 1: about touchdown and just finding ways you know, the pants games,
Speaker 1: defensive game, this game with the offense game defense plyay
Speaker 1: a heck of a game against the Saints. So we
Speaker 1: have a final ways to score, Uh, make happy win
Speaker 1: the next two your five h going to London to
Speaker 1: face the division arrival Houston Texans with a chance to
Speaker 1: be five and four to buy. And that's it's about
Speaker 1: all you can ask, right. This is this is the
Speaker 1: window coming up these next three weeks. So you better
Speaker 1: worry about one first and that's this one this week
Speaker 1: before you start saying, you know, hey, he's in the
Speaker 1: barn on this game with the Bengals, and then with
Speaker 1: the Jets next week. That Jets are playing differently with
Speaker 1: Sam Donald back at the helm and uh as I said,
Speaker 1: before the minute you start taking it on six football
Speaker 1: team light, you're gonna get humble in this league. So
Speaker 1: you know, I think this team has a real good chance.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I think that that is kind
Speaker 1: of being assumed that most people thought, Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: to five hundred or close to five hundred within a
Speaker 1: game and then Nick Foles comes back. Well, my whole
Speaker 1: thing is, look, you've had a quarterback that's playing played
Speaker 1: pretty well for you, and so is getting back to
Speaker 1: five just your goal? I mean, is Nick Foles going
Speaker 1: to be the savior if you get to five hundred
Speaker 1: or close to five hundred and then he comes back,
Speaker 1: Is he gonna? Is he gonna make that big of
Speaker 1: a difference with this football team? Yeah? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is based on his
Speaker 1: resume with the Eagles. You know, I used to call
Speaker 1: him St Nick as you know, close to Christmas Town.
Speaker 1: That has a lot to do with it. But I
Speaker 1: agree with you on that. If if Gardener Menshoe he
Speaker 1: had the one bad game against the Saints. He was humble.
Speaker 1: You know, they exposed the Mabey played like a rookie.
Speaker 1: But if he's got this offense rolling, and I don't
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with just get the five hundred.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we we beat the Bengals, Jazz, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to look at then we go to London,
Speaker 1: wheld we're familiar with. When we play the Texas, I say,
Speaker 1: you go for the division, get this thing rolling and
Speaker 1: win the division. I mean good getting the five hundred
Speaker 1: middle of the season. I mean that's not good enough.
Speaker 1: It's been far too where the last year. I just
Speaker 1: remember midway pointing through the season, Jacks had struggled so
Speaker 1: once and when listen, you know there was already talking
Speaker 1: about what we're gonna do in the draft in neighbor.
Speaker 1: You know, that culture, in that mindset has to change.
Speaker 1: This team had should be focused on winning the division,
Speaker 1: and they got a formulable task because Texas aren't any
Speaker 1: joke coast on in the joke and you still gotta
Speaker 1: go to the Tech. You gotta go to Tennessee, who
Speaker 1: you finally beat, but you gotta go on the road
Speaker 1: against him, so that that that's a that's a healthy
Speaker 1: schedule to to to half the battle, but that you'll
Speaker 1: focus on your main point. You know, your focus should
Speaker 1: be winning this division if you go to if you
Speaker 1: lose to the Bengals, I think just losing to the
Speaker 1: Bengals itself would be I don't want to say catastrophic,
Speaker 1: about to say, it's pretty daring close, but that would
Speaker 1: hurt a loss. They're not playing well, they don't have
Speaker 1: a win. Uh got a new head coach, quarter pack
Speaker 1: quarterback that's not playing well, and they're beat up. You
Speaker 1: know what they're saying. Though you know what they're saying,
Speaker 1: and sense two and four. Here's the thing. Their issues
Speaker 1: are way bigger than the issues here. I'm gonna assure
Speaker 1: you that if you go to two and five with
Speaker 1: the loss to the Bengals as the ice, because that's
Speaker 1: the last thing that would would have happened with this
Speaker 1: football team. I mean, all of a sudden, you're looking
Speaker 1: at this football team, go on, it's over. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: not much room for error after that? Do you do that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's over, but you're feeling is that
Speaker 1: it's over. So, I mean, this is about as big
Speaker 1: as they come. And I'm not one to use must
Speaker 1: win games because you know, look you can you can
Speaker 1: get in a roll lee on like we did ninety
Speaker 1: six and all of a sudden roll off, you know,
Speaker 1: some straight wins to get in the playoffs. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen very You guys behind the eight ball when
Speaker 1: it happened. So I mean, you'd rather not be at
Speaker 1: that point. We were went three and six and four
Speaker 1: and seven, yeah, I think, yeah, roll off five straight
Speaker 1: and had to have help at the end to get
Speaker 1: in and to have help two different ways, right, I
Speaker 1: had to have help all had to line up on
Speaker 1: another game and then had a little help from some
Speaker 1: storious in a little bit of a win. Let's take
Speaker 1: a look at the A s C South standings and
Speaker 1: they haven't changed the last couple of weeks. At He's
Speaker 1: the order, Houston Leon, as you said, playing good ball
Speaker 1: for two. Indy was off last week, the Jags and
Speaker 1: the Titans at the bottom. And the games this week
Speaker 1: of course the Jags of the Bengals, but the Texans
Speaker 1: are playing in Indye against the Colts. It'll be a
Speaker 1: good matchup on Sunday one o'clock. Really good game, really
Speaker 1: good game. In fact, I might if I if it's
Speaker 1: gonna well, it won't air because the Jaguars Bengals beyond.
Speaker 1: But I'd like to have a DVR that they still
Speaker 1: play the replays on NFL Network. I think sometimes I hope, well,
Speaker 1: if not, I'll watch that one on film because that's
Speaker 1: a good matchup, good game. Texans playing good. Chargers are
Speaker 1: at the Titans in Nashville. Chargers not playing. Well, that's
Speaker 1: two games in a row that out the gate. They've
Speaker 1: gotten behind, and uh, not good, not good for the
Speaker 1: for the Chargers at all, because many people thought that
Speaker 1: they would be in contention in the a f C
Speaker 1: and clearly they're not. Alright. One note from the owners
Speaker 1: meetings this week. They were down in South Florida the
Speaker 1: fall owners meetings. They happened quarterly in fact, but Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell confirmed that there have been talks on a seven
Speaker 1: team game season talks between the NFL and the Players
Speaker 1: Association during the early negotiations for the next c B
Speaker 1: A and possible shortening of the preseason to go along
Speaker 1: with that. What do you guys think of that? More games,
Speaker 1: more money, Yeah, more paycheck. I knew this was comment games.
Speaker 1: It's going to vitually get the eight team. I think
Speaker 1: that was the original talking point that maybe they've walked
Speaker 1: it back a little. Here, here's one thing that has
Speaker 1: to happen. One preseason game doesn't equal one regular season game.
Speaker 1: So you can't cut the preseason back to three and
Speaker 1: then extended regular season to seventeen. There's got to be
Speaker 1: like a two for one deal on that at least,
Speaker 1: so in other words, you cut two preseason games out
Speaker 1: to add one the one regular season. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: the players Association agreeing to anything but that. And because
Speaker 1: the seven when you go to seventeen, I know there
Speaker 1: was talk for a while about going to eighteen and
Speaker 1: then having okay, maybe expand the roster a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then you say, okay, all of our players can
Speaker 1: only play in sixteen games. Well that doesn't make any sense. Uh.
Speaker 1: I still believe that you should expand the roster regardless.
Speaker 1: I mean why not. I mean, if if if you
Speaker 1: can go from fifty three to fifty four, why not
Speaker 1: expand it roster by one player and keep practice squad
Speaker 1: and everybody else the same. But I think I think
Speaker 1: having that active roster expanded by one I think what
Speaker 1: mat would help, but h seventeen games, I would be
Speaker 1: that would be interesting because it's not an even number,
Speaker 1: you know, would it float? I mean, how would how
Speaker 1: would they handle that very question? How do would they
Speaker 1: handle that? I don't know, I don't know, a lot
Speaker 1: of talks still to come, I'm sure maybe. And then
Speaker 1: if they expanded, of course, then you go deeper into
Speaker 1: away with the postseason play and all that stuff too.
Speaker 1: That's that's on down the line. Your old team in
Speaker 1: the news again. Um will the Steelers, you know, moving
Speaker 1: into the off season. Here is Kevin Colbert in trouble
Speaker 1: is kind of a storyline, and apparently Steeler's owner Arn't
Speaker 1: Rooney the Second told Ian Rappaport on a podcast this week,
Speaker 1: they're gonna revisited after the draft and see what happens
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. He's been there for a long time, twenty years. Agone.
Speaker 1: They don't make changes in Pittsburg. They don't. They really
Speaker 1: don't know. They take their time with the people that
Speaker 1: personnel people had to go a job overall though, from
Speaker 1: personnel standpoint, did he draft you Kevin Colbert? There don't
Speaker 1: think Yeah, that's uh yeah, that's just twenty twenty years.
Speaker 1: He's been there, so you would have been before that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: discutched curious. I wonder if he was on staff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably was. He a long time. They don't get rid
Speaker 1: of I mean, he just don't. Let's take a look
Speaker 1: at Thursday night football tonight. The Kansas City Chiefs four
Speaker 1: and two and the Broncos at two and fourth is
Speaker 1: at Mile High tonight. Patrick Mahomes has been hobbled a
Speaker 1: little bit lately. The Broncos might have found their sea
Speaker 1: legs and well, I don't know, that might be overselling
Speaker 1: it a little bit. They were over, Uh they were
Speaker 1: over four to start the season. They've won a couple
Speaker 1: in a row. How do you like this game tonight?
Speaker 1: Division game at Mile High? It's always fun. I think
Speaker 1: it's a good football game. I'm gonna be watching it.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that Patrick Mahomes um. Their offenses
Speaker 1: hasn't been quite as good lately. You had what back
Speaker 1: to back games against an NFC South opponent with Texans
Speaker 1: last week and then the Coult before that, and uh,
Speaker 1: they got Tyreek killed back. Yes, I had him in
Speaker 1: fantasy this past week. Well, he did well, he did
Speaker 1: pretty good. I think this is a really good football game.
Speaker 1: And uh, because it's a it's a strength first, strength
Speaker 1: of the Broncos defense is obviously their strength, and then
Speaker 1: they're all fence against a Kanci chief defense that's not
Speaker 1: as powerful. So it should be a really good football game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: rivalry game. It'll be close, but I think the Canci
Speaker 1: Chiefs to get him in the end late late second
Speaker 1: field goal, last second field goal. Though, I think it's
Speaker 1: will be that. I like that. Leon, well done. We'll
Speaker 1: see you on Sunday. Sunday. I'll be here, He'll be back.
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