Speaker 1: However, have we ever heard of Andrew Freeman over pay
Speaker 1: for a need?
Speaker 2: That's just not what he does.
Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, and welcome to the show. Everybody. My name
Speaker 3: is Clint to see us. That lady right there is
Speaker 3: Katie Wio. We do not have Alana with us today
Speaker 3: or this week. She's getting a much needed vacation. But
Speaker 3: don't worry. We'll hold the fort down for you as
Speaker 3: best we can. A lot of stuff to talk about,
Speaker 3: a little bit of a speed run. You guys see,
Speaker 3: wu is not home. She's on the road. She's in Philly.
Speaker 3: She's miserable. She's been on the road for sixteen months
Speaker 3: I think at this point. But yeah, you said, morale's
Speaker 3: a little low. Like what can we do? What can
Speaker 3: the crowd here in the chat do to perky up
Speaker 3: for a series in Philly?
Speaker 4: I just think two things and I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: We do a little Dodger talk, We recap what was
Speaker 1: I thought was a really fun series in New York
Speaker 1: against Yankee.
Speaker 4: Has been a while since they did a split doubleheader,
Speaker 4: so that was cool. And I'm going to get a
Speaker 4: cheese stick at some point later. So like, really, we're
Speaker 4: going to be fine.
Speaker 1: We're just a little tired today we're in the halfway point,
Speaker 1: but we still prevail here at Dodge Territory.
Speaker 3: We grind, we grind. The important question how many chicken
Speaker 3: tenders did we have?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: I did six, but which is low? It's way lower
Speaker 1: than I thought. But what happened from a calorie standpoint
Speaker 1: over yesterday, it's twenty four hours, can never happen again.
Speaker 1: Because the thing about the Yankee Stadium press box is
Speaker 1: you can graze. You can graze, and I did a
Speaker 1: lot of grazing. How to size the pizza? Had an
Speaker 1: ice cream? I don't even like that big of an
Speaker 1: ice cream girl, but I will be getting one here
Speaker 1: at Philly because they have a legendary guy, Frankie.
Speaker 4: Two scoops in the press box.
Speaker 1: Just I left a lot to be desired because I
Speaker 1: was distracted from the main goal. So we will try again.
Speaker 1: We will be better and hoping might clothes fit at
Speaker 1: the end of this trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to lock in, don't work, you'll venture
Speaker 3: to be home, you go on your LA hikes and
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. But we got some news
Speaker 3: to lead us off. The Dodgers have done that thing
Speaker 3: they do where they fixed everything they traded for a picture,
Speaker 3: not anybody we were anticipating. Here we get Jack Harris
Speaker 3: pointing out that the Dodgers have sent Oh well, I
Speaker 3: guess teconically John Hayman was on it first. I think
Speaker 3: it was Hayman who was on it first. It might
Speaker 3: have been I think Joel Sherman who was on it first.
Speaker 3: But anyways, we're going here pointless for the credit part,
Speaker 3: Seth hal Vorison, is that how we say this? The
Speaker 3: Dodgers acquire a right handed flamethrower, somebody who could touch
Speaker 3: one hundred and two miles an hour. I think he's
Speaker 3: sitting about ninety eight ninety nine so far this year
Speaker 3: they send over to the Rockies. I wouldn't say him battled,
Speaker 3: but one time, you know top pitching prospect Nick Frosso,
Speaker 3: who just plainly has not bounced back from shoulder surgery
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. And this is one of
Speaker 3: those moves, Katie, where it's like you could easily just
Speaker 3: throw it away. But when the Dodgers identify something in somebody,
Speaker 3: you immediately think, is this the next will kliinb Is
Speaker 3: this the next? I don't know, I mean you kind
Speaker 3: of they kind of did that with Alex Vessio. They've
Speaker 3: done it a lot. What do you like, if anything,
Speaker 3: about Seth hal Vorsen coming to the boys in Blue?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the guy where there's some there's some familiarity, right,
Speaker 1: he's coming from Colorado.
Speaker 4: Josh Burns is there now. This is the guy who
Speaker 4: was the.
Speaker 1: Rockies closer maybe two three years ago, so has some
Speaker 1: recent experience in high leverage situations. But what really caught
Speaker 1: my eye as we're, you know, speed running through this
Speaker 1: guy on the way to the ballpark is the velo.
Speaker 1: And like you said, Clinneth, the Dodger sees something in
Speaker 1: a picture that should be an alert for the rest
Speaker 1: of the league because they, alongside the Milaukee Brewers and
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Rays, are the three best at identifying
Speaker 1: something with an arm that they believe can foster into
Speaker 1: something even bigger. So you look at the one O
Speaker 1: two bilo for the Dodgers, You're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I could fix that, and if we can't, we don't
Speaker 1: lose too much out of our system.
Speaker 4: It is the textbook Andrew Freeman minor league trade.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, keep an eye on for like
Speaker 1: the Halberston Redemption Tour in September.
Speaker 4: Guy with good stuff. Let's see what the Dodgers can
Speaker 4: do with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see the numbers here on the screen
Speaker 3: him at at Triple A this season in the ra
Speaker 3: around two somebody that absolutely working with this, this coaching staff,
Speaker 3: Mark Pryor and the boys. They will find something and
Speaker 3: if not, we don't need to ever talk about them again.
Speaker 3: But hopefully Nick Frosso gets an opportunity there in Colorado.
Speaker 3: But again we don't need to spend a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of time on it. Let's talk a bit about that
Speaker 3: series against the Yankees. Talked about it yesterday at My
Speaker 3: All Dodger Show. Is one of those ones that high level.
Speaker 3: It's a good series. You still leave with a bad
Speaker 3: taste in your mouth, but you know, you lose a
Speaker 3: night cap, Gastionism hits the Homer, which makes it worse
Speaker 3: for everybody in their soul. But what'd you like? What
Speaker 3: are the positive things that people should really take away
Speaker 3: from that series?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you there taking two or three from
Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Bronx, that's a win no matter
Speaker 1: what it's I think the way that the final game
Speaker 1: of that split double header ended, though it's hard to
Speaker 1: win two games in a.
Speaker 4: Split double header.
Speaker 1: For a bullpen game, you know, Evan Phillips still adjusting
Speaker 1: to the major league environment. That's a real thing for
Speaker 1: someone who has been out of the game rehabbing for
Speaker 1: so long. You can't replicate a major league situation or
Speaker 1: a major league environment in the minor leagues. You can
Speaker 1: only try to replicate the stuff. So, all things considered,
Speaker 1: I was really not worried about the.
Speaker 4: Game two loss on Sunday.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of a bummer way to end
Speaker 1: what was otherwise a stellar series. You look at the
Speaker 1: starting pitching, Yamamoto going the distance. Game one, There's a
Speaker 1: reason Dave Roberts put his ace, and that is because
Speaker 1: he needed to save the bullpen as much as he could.
Speaker 4: Or Game two, well, Yamamoto said, I'll just.
Speaker 1: Save the whole thing. I'll do it myself. Didn't even
Speaker 1: look tired, unreal, And then I know it's a little
Speaker 1: past this. But on Friday, Roki Sasaki looked phenomenal. That
Speaker 1: velo we saw three one hundred plus. Roki the entire
Speaker 1: outing had his hardest pitches in the major leagues of
Speaker 1: his career. If he can sustain that we're looking at
Speaker 1: an entirely different outlook in the second half for Roki.
Speaker 1: So all in all, it's a great series. You hate
Speaker 1: how it ended yesterday, but again one bad pitch from
Speaker 1: Evan Phillips. Who's going to be consistent the more that
Speaker 1: he gets back into the acclimating to the big leagues.
Speaker 1: You have you have a moto Beinis Dad, and you
Speaker 1: have Roki showing some real, real significant progress, Jake care
Speaker 1: business against Philly, which I think is going to be
Speaker 1: a much bigger test than the Yankees were, and roll
Speaker 1: through the Mets and go from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still I'm holding out hope that you know,
Speaker 3: obviously is a lot of good from Roki. We need
Speaker 3: to see it repeated. We need to see consistency out
Speaker 3: of Roki and now more than ever. Don't worry. Yes,
Speaker 3: we are going to talk about a whole lot about
Speaker 3: the show. Heyo Tani knee situation and him being sidelined
Speaker 3: from the starting rotation, other things like in that series. Yeah,
Speaker 3: most of the bullpen was pretty good. The fact that
Speaker 3: the offense was able to eventually get to Garrett Cole,
Speaker 3: Max Munty shout out, making Cam Schlitzler work, somebody who's
Speaker 3: in the AlSi Young conversation. But somebody I really love
Speaker 3: and I feel deserves a spotlight, and he's going to
Speaker 3: be Today's In this week's fan duel Daily Dinger, we
Speaker 3: got to talk about Tommy Edmund. He had himself a
Speaker 3: nice little series there in New York four for nine
Speaker 3: in the series We're gonna pop. We're gonna pop this
Speaker 3: on the screen. We're gonna pop some Tommy Edmund love
Speaker 3: on the screen. Tommy Edmond just overall has been better
Speaker 3: than advertised for this team since coming off the IL
Speaker 3: twenty five games, hitting three fifty five. You see it
Speaker 3: there on the screen nine six ops, Katie. It appears
Speaker 3: the difference in ankle makes is a lot for Tommy Edmund.
Speaker 3: But he has been an honest to God like true
Speaker 3: difference maker or run producer for this team. Whether he's
Speaker 3: hitting second, whether he's hitting ninth. I mean, I love
Speaker 3: him in all the spots. If we could duplicate Tommy
Speaker 3: Edmund right now, I think this team would be a
Speaker 3: kind of an unmatched offense. You don't expect him to
Speaker 3: keep this going, of course, but maybe he finds a way.
Speaker 3: Maybe actually having a healthy ankle goes a long way
Speaker 3: for him. But I just wanted to make sure we
Speaker 3: gave a shout where deserved to Tommy Edmund. Guy, you've
Speaker 3: covered a lot over your career, and for the sake
Speaker 3: of Daily Dingers, here somebody I'm watching in this Philly
Speaker 3: series because again, he just seems to be locked in
Speaker 3: quick words on Tommy before I tell people more about FanDuel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're Tommy Edmond Truther's on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I've been since twenty twenty one. He's just a ballplayer,
Speaker 1: and the Dodgers have so many superstars.
Speaker 4: But Tommy Edmund, you said it really well.
Speaker 1: Clint can plug into any area of the lineup and
Speaker 1: produce whether he's hitting second, whether's hitting eight, whether's hitting nine,
Speaker 1: where he's playing left fields, second base, third base. He's
Speaker 1: that textbook Swiss army knife that Andrew Freeman and the
Speaker 1: Dodgers love, and he's doing it at this level of
Speaker 1: production that we haven't seen yet in Los Angeles because
Speaker 1: he's finally healthy.
Speaker 4: Even when the Dodgers traded for.
Speaker 1: Him in twenty four from Saint Louis, there was some
Speaker 1: concern over that lingering ankle, but Tommy played through it,
Speaker 1: got himself the bag, got himself a World Series championship,
Speaker 1: and then we saw what twenty twenty five was.
Speaker 4: It wasn't Tommy Edmand.
Speaker 1: He could go up there and produce, but not to
Speaker 1: the level of being able to be such a stop
Speaker 1: gap for this team. And that's ultimately why they traded
Speaker 1: for him in the first place, because.
Speaker 4: He's able to get on base. He's able to hit
Speaker 4: for slug when needed.
Speaker 1: He don't expect him hit pop you know, twenty five
Speaker 1: bonds a year, but every now and then, like we
Speaker 1: saw yesterday, he can.
Speaker 4: Take one out of the park.
Speaker 1: I think Tommy Edman represents exactly what a true, like
Speaker 1: high caliber playoff contending team needs.
Speaker 4: He's not going to blow you away on the stat line.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be the marquee player that you
Speaker 1: see with banners at the stadium, but he's going to
Speaker 1: do the little things that allow things and set things
Speaker 1: up for the big guns to go in and produce.
Speaker 1: So all around, really nice to see Tommy Edmond back
Speaker 1: and playing baseball healthy.
Speaker 4: Turns out that ankle surgery was a good idea.
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Speaker 3: show Heyo Tani, and I'm bringing it out. It's time
Speaker 3: for blue balls. Maybe maybe lining up the words that
Speaker 3: way wasn't the best way of doing it, but blue
Speaker 3: balls is our segment. Those are the words that happened. Listen,
Speaker 3: it's live. Things happen live. But yeah, amongst the bad
Speaker 3: news that made I guess we could say the weekend
Speaker 3: a little bit worse, uh in our souls was show
Speaker 3: Heo Tani he's going to be out of the starting
Speaker 3: rotation indefinitely, saying he's going to miss this start in
Speaker 3: Philly on Wednesday, and added that it's going to be
Speaker 3: some time before he starts again. What can you tell us, Katie?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll preface this with the Dodgers don't seem to
Speaker 1: be overly concerned. However, as a Dodgers fan, I understand
Speaker 1: hearing that if you're a Dodgers fan hearing that saying
Speaker 1: and being like, oh my gosh, he's done. Like I know,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers really like to downplay their picture injuries. I
Speaker 1: will say it makes sense where the team is right now,
Speaker 1: both in the season and in the standings, where if
Speaker 1: Shoeotani is not one hundred percent, don't pitch him.
Speaker 4: They have a really favorable schedule right now.
Speaker 1: They have an off down Thursday, another off dawn Monday,
Speaker 1: and then I think one more right after the trade
Speaker 1: deadline where they can still honor the six man rotation
Speaker 1: without actually using six pitchers, which gives Otani more time
Speaker 1: to rest that knee inflammation. So we're going to clarify
Speaker 1: some things. We were told before the All Star break
Speaker 1: that Showyotani was going to get a drainage. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna get his knees drained? Dave Roberts claire by Friday
Speaker 1: at Inky Stadium that he actually got a lubricant shot
Speaker 1: and he went out to go throw a flat ground
Speaker 1: on Friday, I believe, and didn't feel right and told
Speaker 1: the traders, hey, you know, I'm still not feeling one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. We know he feels this more when he's
Speaker 1: pitching rather than hitting. It has something to do with
Speaker 1: how he plants and lands after he finishes his delivery,
Speaker 1: and the training staff the Dodgers said, okay, why push it.
Speaker 1: We have the ability again with the schedule to navigate
Speaker 1: the rotation.
Speaker 4: We can throw a bullpen game if we need it.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers needs show Heyo Tani in October, not in July,
Speaker 1: and they're eleven and a half game lead in the
Speaker 1: NL West right now. Afford them some flexibility to take
Speaker 1: a couple of days. They don't need to be gas,
Speaker 1: you know, on the floor, pedal to the metal at
Speaker 1: this point on July twentieth, they need him for October.
Speaker 1: So if we need to not see Shoho Tani for
Speaker 1: two to three weeks, ish in the rotation to ensure
Speaker 1: that we have a better chance to seeing Shoeo tany
Speaker 1: in October.
Speaker 4: I think everyone can understand that. Does it suck?
Speaker 1: Of course we want to see Otani every week taking
Speaker 1: them out. He's the unicorn, I get it. But the
Speaker 1: Dodgers are really really good at being risk adverse and
Speaker 1: doing that kind of load management.
Speaker 4: They can take advantage of us.
Speaker 1: Spot in their schedule right now where they have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to work in more brest days and keep that
Speaker 1: six man on schedule, still honor it while giving Otani
Speaker 1: the time that he needs to recover one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: They're just simply airing on the side of caution. If
Speaker 1: we get to middle of August and we're not seeing
Speaker 1: any more progress with that knee, then maybe we have
Speaker 1: a different conversation, but right now totally understand what the
Speaker 1: organization is doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, it's a good thing to be proactive at
Speaker 3: this point, and we've kind of been asking for calling
Speaker 3: forward to different points over the course of the season.
Speaker 3: It's like, when do you give this guy a blow?
Speaker 3: When do you give him a little bit of a
Speaker 3: rest because having him be a two way player. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it's exciting to say, you know, full time
Speaker 3: two way player all the way through one hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty two games. But these are the Dodgers. We don't care.
Speaker 3: I'll say, we don't care about one sixty two and
Speaker 3: breaking a Mariner's record for most wins and honestly, show
Speaker 3: Hey Otani winning a Cy Young Award. They care about
Speaker 3: winning eleven games in October and having show Hey be
Speaker 3: at his best in October is the most important thing
Speaker 3: for this organization. So nip it in the butt now.
Speaker 3: And it's worth noting that show has not been good
Speaker 3: since first reporting that knee you had in your calling there, Katie,
Speaker 3: that I think he first reported a June tenth after that,
Speaker 3: so he started a season five herd runs over his
Speaker 3: first ten games after that, twelve earned over his next four.
Speaker 3: People want to say, maybe it's working with Dalton rushing.
Speaker 3: It's not all that. When you can't plant on that
Speaker 3: front leg, you're going to have a bad time. And
Speaker 3: we saw it much there. But smart to deal with
Speaker 3: this now one hundred percent because it was obviously like
Speaker 3: really affecting him. There was I would like it Dave,
Speaker 3: who had said a little bit better. He said, I
Speaker 3: guess anything is possible. When asked is there any chance
Speaker 3: he won't pitch again this season? Do you just think
Speaker 3: that's probably Dave being cornered and saying words instead of
Speaker 3: having a moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this point, I think it was maybe ten straight
Speaker 1: minutes of Otani questions.
Speaker 4: And I think the last thing.
Speaker 1: I always try to be empathetic to managers because every
Speaker 1: single thing that they.
Speaker 4: Say gets blown up.
Speaker 1: So I don't really think that the Dodgers at all.
Speaker 4: In fact, I know because I.
Speaker 1: Went in and asked a couple of people behind the
Speaker 1: scenes saying that this is going to be something where
Speaker 1: we don't see Otani on the mound.
Speaker 4: I think that was just Dave say, you know, I'm going.
Speaker 1: To cover all bases here, you know, I guess maybe
Speaker 1: he could have a stepback, but right now the Dodgers
Speaker 1: aren't planning for it.
Speaker 4: They're just that was just Dave b and Dave and
Speaker 4: the Dodgers right now.
Speaker 1: Again, we saw Tonnie throwing off flat ground in between
Speaker 1: games on Sunday with head trader Thomas Albert out there,
Speaker 1: Mark Pryor out there.
Speaker 4: So he's still throwing.
Speaker 1: It's just progressing to where he can feel like he's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Again, you don't need a one hundred
Speaker 1: percent show.
Speaker 4: Heyo Tani right.
Speaker 1: Now with a double digit lead in the division, and
Speaker 1: when nobody knows that the Padres or dbacs are going
Speaker 1: to get any better or worse at the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: you need him in October. So let's just take a
Speaker 1: collective inhale exhale, and hope that things are good in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Pump the brakes a little bit for sure. Now all
Speaker 3: of this. You know, you mentioned the calendar. Usually that's
Speaker 3: something I end up looking at. I hadn't, you know,
Speaker 3: I figured I'd go into you know, doom fire and
Speaker 3: Brimstone and everything. Worst case scenario. Overreactions about this and
Speaker 3: the state of the starting rotation, they can get away
Speaker 3: with it for a couple of weeks, buying some more
Speaker 3: time for Blake Snell to maybe make his return. We
Speaker 3: know Tyler Glasow is moving doing some baseball activities, still
Speaker 3: a little bit further behind, but still you look at
Speaker 3: the state of the starting rotation and the next question
Speaker 3: is really do they need to add to the starting
Speaker 3: rotation depth at the trade deadline. That is what we're
Speaker 3: going to get into next, but first we are going
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Speaker 3: Katie rumor has it the Dodgers are not going to
Speaker 3: be active at the trade deadline, or at least not
Speaker 3: active in the way maybe somebody like me suddenly really
Speaker 3: really would like them to be. I know a lot
Speaker 3: of fans would like to see them go out there
Speaker 3: and get a catcher break in case of emergency with
Speaker 3: Will Smith, get Trek Scooble. Well, I'll do you know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you your weekly Schooble question. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the knee situation and the Will Smith next situation kind
Speaker 3: of has them in a in a scenario in a yeah,
Speaker 3: let's say, in a scenario where do they need to
Speaker 3: overpay for reinforcements at the deadline. You wrote about this today,
Speaker 3: tell us more about the state of thinking with.
Speaker 1: The team, so I can understand everyone's opinion about this,
Speaker 1: because I do think that there is a reasonable concern
Speaker 1: just based on Snell and Glass now the amount of
Speaker 1: time they've missed this season, not knowing where a Tawny
Speaker 1: currently stands, and just not having a lot of depth
Speaker 1: available outside of the current rotation because River Ryan is
Speaker 1: still on the el. However, have we ever heard of
Speaker 1: Andrew Friedman over paying for a need.
Speaker 4: That's just not what he does.
Speaker 1: And I think this is a really good time to
Speaker 1: look at the trade market, the trade online market overall.
Speaker 4: We don't know what the heck it is.
Speaker 1: And the reason is because with expanded playoffs and so
Speaker 1: many teams right around five hundred ish or right two
Speaker 1: or three games out of contention, teams are going to
Speaker 1: try to straddle that fence for as long as possible
Speaker 1: before committing to being a buyer or a seller, and
Speaker 1: several teams might try to do both.
Speaker 4: So I did a little bit of prep today. Clint
Speaker 4: in the National League, all within two and.
Speaker 1: A half games right now heading into play today, Cardinals, Marlins, Pirates, Dbacks, Padres, Nationals, Americanly,
Speaker 1: don't even get me started on that. The Texas Rangers
Speaker 1: are half a game over five hundred and lead the
Speaker 1: Ale Central.
Speaker 4: You have Houston four and a half games out, but they're.
Speaker 1: The Houston Astros, so they're going to try to, you know,
Speaker 1: be a contending team.
Speaker 4: Seattle, Boston, Toronto.
Speaker 1: Any one of these teams can go on a run
Speaker 1: within the next week and all of a sudden be
Speaker 1: right back in it. And that includes the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 1: Was talking to an exec the other day who was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not even sure if they're going
Speaker 1: to trade school because they're a heater away in the
Speaker 1: next seven days from all of a sudden being right
Speaker 1: back in it. So it's really hard to predict what
Speaker 1: the market even looks like, and we're not going to
Speaker 1: know as an industry up until the final week, if
Speaker 1: not days before MLB's weird Monday August they're deadline. But
Speaker 1: if you're a Dodger fan, you don't care. You just
Speaker 1: want to know what's your front up is going to
Speaker 1: do to make sure that your team is in the
Speaker 1: best possible position for the next two months.
Speaker 4: Well, if your.
Speaker 1: Dodgers stand then you know that the Dodgers don't really
Speaker 1: care about the next two months, and they're never going
Speaker 1: to go out and say it, but what they care
Speaker 1: about is sustaining there, leading the division, playing good baseball,
Speaker 1: but healthy baseball, and making sure everyone is in full
Speaker 1: strength in October.
Speaker 4: This is a song and dance we all know.
Speaker 1: So as long as as the Dodgers feel like Dalton
Speaker 1: Rushing can continue growing and continue adjusting to a full
Speaker 1: time workload, and that they have enough depth in their
Speaker 1: rotation to I don't want to say coast because that
Speaker 1: implies that guys are taking their foot off the gas,
Speaker 1: which they're not. But float, We'll go float atop the division.
Speaker 1: Then I don't see Andrew Freeman depleeting his farm system
Speaker 1: for something that they're not going to need in October
Speaker 1: when it really matters for them now.
Speaker 4: Should should there be.
Speaker 1: Some some validity in and saying, well, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't know what sound it's going to look like. It's
Speaker 1: hard to trust Glass now right now, given the amount
Speaker 1: of setbacks he's had since May one hundred percent, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about how instrumental Eric Lawer has been. Maybe
Speaker 1: that helps them rethink if they could move Eric lower
Speaker 1: or not, just because you need depth. But overall, while
Speaker 1: Andrew Freeman and company they have no problem splurging cash wise,
Speaker 1: they really are adverse to trading from their prospect capital.
Speaker 1: I still think right now they're going to wait out
Speaker 1: the market. And we know this cliche, We've heard it before.
Speaker 1: They just wait around the backboard for the rebound. That's
Speaker 1: what they're going to continue to do. But right now
Speaker 1: don't seem to have any sense of urgency to go
Speaker 1: out and get some depth based on though Tawny news
Speaker 1: or the Will Smith news. That's just not how they operate,
Speaker 1: and they really like what they've seen in Dalton Rushing
Speaker 1: behind the plate. This could be really his only opportunity
Speaker 1: to show the organization what he could do as a
Speaker 1: full time guy, because we know when Will Smith gets back,
Speaker 1: that's going to be his job again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, I should be in last week. Last week,
Speaker 3: Alana and I were pretty worried about the Will Smith situation.
Speaker 3: I think things will be. We'll eventually figure themselves out there.
Speaker 3: I think he will be Okay, that's it. I don't
Speaker 3: mind Dalton taking the line share there. What you do
Speaker 3: worry about, though, is the scenario where Dalton Rushing finds
Speaker 3: himself injured, which is exactly what happened late last year
Speaker 3: Will Smith fractured hand. Dalton Rushing, hey, hey buddy, you
Speaker 3: got the keys for a little while, immediately fouls a
Speaker 3: ball off his leg and is out for a chunk
Speaker 3: of time. Elie's Alfonso gets his first big league hit
Speaker 3: yesterday in New York. Congrats to him, But beyond that,
Speaker 3: don't have catching depths, So maybe there's a little bit
Speaker 3: of a need for You don't need an everyday starter,
Speaker 3: but just another grown up, another adult in the room
Speaker 3: who I'm always gonna go back to Ben rht Vett.
Speaker 3: At least he has familiarity with this organization. I think
Speaker 3: you could find a way to finagle a deal with
Speaker 3: the Mets to get him over here. But we don't
Speaker 3: need to necessarily focus too much on the catching part
Speaker 3: of this, Katie. Where I am more worried though, is
Speaker 3: the state of the starting rotation, because it is Yamamoto,
Speaker 3: it is Roki Sasaki, it is Justin Rableski is Emma
Speaker 3: shean Eric Lauer, end of list. And even on the
Speaker 3: depth side, we know River Ryanma. I've heard more not
Speaker 3: great news with Gavin Stone, where again, he's not somebody.
Speaker 3: Even if he started throwing tomorrow, he's not gonna be
Speaker 3: ready for a month and a half. So basically a
Speaker 3: non option. Cole Irvin is somebody at Triple A who's
Speaker 3: giving them some innings down there, not exactly a sexy
Speaker 3: every sixth day a dude, which again, they just need
Speaker 3: a little bit of breath, a little bit of depth
Speaker 3: to survive until Blake Snell returns and then maybe Otani
Speaker 3: isn't out as long as we're kind of fearing. But
Speaker 3: in my opinion, it kind of feels like they're playing
Speaker 3: with fire if they don't go out and at least
Speaker 3: add I don't know, some sort of upside starter, and
Speaker 3: I think there are some I'm not gonna call him
Speaker 3: by low options, but for the sake of getting through it,
Speaker 3: I think they are kind of by low options that
Speaker 3: have top ish, middle of the rotation upside maybe even
Speaker 3: better working with this, uh, you know, pitching staff and
Speaker 3: all that with Mark Pryor and company. I mentioned a
Speaker 3: couple of these guys last night on My All Dodger Show,
Speaker 3: so I'm interested in your thoughts about this. We know
Speaker 3: Terrek Scoople, how about let this before I mentioned the
Speaker 3: other names, Trek Scooble, this is the guy where everybody
Speaker 3: wants him, Detroit kind of in it, kind of not
Speaker 3: in it. What's what's the latest you're hearing with scoops?
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's start with this first, because I think
Speaker 1: this is an important caveat. Starting pitching at the deadline
Speaker 1: is always at a premium and it costs the most.
Speaker 1: So for the Dodgers. If they're looking at their starting
Speaker 1: rotation and looking for starting pitching depth. There are not
Speaker 1: a lot of names out there that scream to me
Speaker 1: worth parting with at least of one, probably two top
Speaker 1: prospects for two months of control. Because, as we just
Speaker 1: talked about, the Dodgers don't really care about August or September.
Speaker 4: Now they're not going to say it, but I will.
Speaker 4: They care about October.
Speaker 1: And if you look at any of the guys not
Speaker 1: named Schooble, we'll get to him that could be available
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 4: Are they better.
Speaker 1: Than the healthiest versions of Otani, Yamamoto, Snell or Glass? Now,
Speaker 1: Joe Ryant, great pitcher, he's probably a number five on
Speaker 1: this team. Sonny Gray, don't even know if he's going
Speaker 1: to be available now that the Red Sox have decided
Speaker 1: to never lose a game. He's a number five on
Speaker 1: this team. Those guys are twos or threes, maybe even
Speaker 1: ones on some organizations, But for the Dodgers, do they
Speaker 1: even get a playoff start?
Speaker 4: So that's kind of where there is.
Speaker 1: Some maybe some gap in the fan basis thinking, because
Speaker 1: we're focusing rightfully on if there's enough depths to get
Speaker 1: through the regular season. Where the Dodgers are like, is
Speaker 1: this worth blowing up something good in our future for
Speaker 1: an arm that's maybe not going to make an impact
Speaker 1: in October. That's why you keep hearing the Dodgers connected
Speaker 1: to school, because he certainly would be an arm that
Speaker 1: could impact their October. But we don't even know if
Speaker 1: the Tigers are going to trade him yet. That goes
Speaker 1: back to how we kicked off this segment. The Tigers
Speaker 1: again a week away from good baseball for being right
Speaker 1: back in not just the Wildcar but the Division, and
Speaker 1: this is their window to compete.
Speaker 4: They're probably not going to have Schooble after this.
Speaker 1: So do I expect the Dodgers to be continued to
Speaker 1: connect to Schooble?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Do I think that there's even a chance that the
Speaker 1: Tigers trade him, Yes, But until we get more concrete details,
Speaker 1: it's all speculative because we don't even know if there's
Speaker 1: a scenario where Detroit makes this guy available. It all
Speaker 1: depends on the next week or so, and that does
Speaker 1: not make it easy for any exact trying to gain
Speaker 1: play what August start of looks like. But there are teams,
Speaker 1: trust me, that are going to go down to the
Speaker 1: wire that are going to be sid on August second, Okay,
Speaker 1: we are good enough to go in and push, or
Speaker 1: we are bad enough where we were out of it
Speaker 1: where we need to go in and sell, which means,
Speaker 1: I guess for fans Augustard is going to be legit.
Speaker 4: But right now, planning trade.
Speaker 1: Deadlines and saying dependently they're in on someone they're in
Speaker 1: on not is really difficult because we don't even know
Speaker 1: who there is to be in looking at the names
Speaker 1: that we expect to be available based on the teams
Speaker 1: that we think are going to be selling. The Mets,
Speaker 1: the Giants outside of Freddy Peralta, who's having a down year? Two,
Speaker 1: is there anyone else? And those two that screams playoff
Speaker 1: starter for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do like Freddy Peralta to a degree
Speaker 3: because I think you could also get different pieces from
Speaker 3: let me put this board up here, from the Mets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the numbers not the best, but he is somebody who was,
Speaker 3: you know, a game one starter for Milwaukee just a
Speaker 3: season ago. He has that kind of stuff, And again
Speaker 3: I think this is a prime change of a change
Speaker 3: of scenery type of dude you mix in somebody else maybe, Hey,
Speaker 3: you know who has Ben roertved It is the New
Speaker 3: York Mets. So you do kind of fill two needs
Speaker 3: to a degree if you're able to swing of Freddy
Speaker 3: Perolta deal there. But yeah, if if Snell comes back healthy,
Speaker 3: Yamamoto is able to stay healthy the whole time. Rableski
Speaker 3: is coming up on throwing you know, a career high
Speaker 3: in innings in like a start or two, So there
Speaker 3: is also trying to bridge that gap of not burning
Speaker 3: him out into October. And I think that's where I
Speaker 3: also have a little bit of focus. Yeah, you can,
Speaker 3: you can float your way to the postseason and probably
Speaker 3: a first round by and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: But burning out your guys that concerns me. Particularly Yamamoto
Speaker 3: already had an insane workload last October, and then Robleski,
Speaker 3: you know, she and he's moving to the bullpen either way,
Speaker 3: unless they find somebody better. Maybe he's not even on
Speaker 3: the postseason roster. Chances are he's there. Eric Lauer is
Speaker 3: one hundred percent to give us some innings until you know,
Speaker 3: the end of September kind of guy. But Freddy Parolta, yeah,
Speaker 3: on this team definitely has some ace level upside. Another
Speaker 3: guy less mentioned I talked about last night, Luis Castillo
Speaker 3: with the Seattle Mariners. It's an interesting situation over there
Speaker 3: in Seattle because they have a billion pitchers. They have
Speaker 3: more pitchers that they can call up and probably make
Speaker 3: an instantaneous impact. You haven't so much heard of the
Speaker 3: Dodgers and well anybody Dodgers being linked to anybody but Castilla.
Speaker 3: What does that kind of trademarket look like, because Mariners
Speaker 3: need some more offensive help rather than another starting pitcher
Speaker 3: that isn't necessarily happy with his role or usage.
Speaker 1: I don't see it. Because the Mariners are five hundred.
Speaker 1: I think they're fifteen and fifty. They're a half game
Speaker 1: out of the division. The American League is like just
Speaker 1: so mediocre it's really disappointing. So they don't need to
Speaker 1: do anything big or blockbuster to be a contending team.
Speaker 1: And we've seen this team in the payoffs before. They
Speaker 1: know how to play playoff baseball because they know their strengths,
Speaker 1: which is their starting pitching to a degree, that's the
Speaker 1: your strength to Yeah, they have all these superstars with
Speaker 1: the offensive was looking in the last six weeks the
Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners. When you think of them, you think of
Speaker 1: their rotation, you think of their pitching. So I don't
Speaker 1: see them floating really anyone. I don't see the Mariners
Speaker 1: being one of those teams that straddles the Bysell philosophy.
Speaker 1: I think they're just going to be in on trying
Speaker 1: to make their team as better but as good as possible,
Speaker 1: and trying to make as many improvements as possible because
Speaker 1: they're going to be rivalry and sure the Rangers, but
Speaker 1: they do a good job of straddling both.
Speaker 4: And then the Astros who love to go all in.
Speaker 1: And plus the Astros have their GM under the last
Speaker 1: year of his deal, so he's kind of playing for
Speaker 1: his job as well.
Speaker 4: I would pump the brakes on this one. I just
Speaker 4: don't see the Mariners doing that.
Speaker 3: Again, the main reason I bring it up is they
Speaker 3: have so much starting pitching. They have more pitching down
Speaker 3: in the minor league levels. Kate Anderson as somebody's we're
Speaker 3: probably ready to be called up right now and make
Speaker 3: an immediate impact, and probably a Rookie of the year
Speaker 3: running who wouldn't win it because you know, Kevin McGonagall exists.
Speaker 3: But still, this is me thinking outside the bun with
Speaker 3: Castillo and again that they're pitching sit situation where it's
Speaker 3: trading from an area of depth. You know, we've talked
Speaker 3: a lot over the last month about the Dodgers trading
Speaker 3: from an area of depth in their outfield prospects to
Speaker 3: fill needs down in the minor leagues. You know, you
Speaker 3: could see if there was there was an impact bat
Speaker 3: or two that the Mariners really liked, maybe you can
Speaker 3: do some convincing, but you know, pie in the sky
Speaker 3: type stuff there. For me, yeah, it's boring again to
Speaker 3: once again say that they will likely stand pat or
Speaker 3: at least do something that isn't needle moving. But we'll
Speaker 3: do We'll say they're going to nobody else gets Snell
Speaker 3: and potentially Glass now back, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's that's honestly again, you guys know how
Speaker 1: I feel about this. I actually had an exec say
Speaker 1: this to me yesterday and I cringed a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're going to have so many guys coming back around
Speaker 1: the deadline that it's going to be like making trades,
Speaker 1: except these are going to be better than any trades
Speaker 1: the Dodgers could make, at least that's how they're viewing it.
Speaker 1: Are you going to go find a closer better than
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz on the market. No, he could be back
Speaker 1: as soon as by the end of this road trip,
Speaker 1: if not the start of the home stand. Blake Snell,
Speaker 1: you're targeting they want and I'm to get the five
Speaker 1: inning seventy five pitch marks.
Speaker 4: They've shortened it before, They're not going to do that again.
Speaker 1: That puts him mathematically looking out right around the August
Speaker 1: third deadline for our return.
Speaker 4: Oh how convenient. What a coincidence. And then Tyler Glass,
Speaker 4: now they're.
Speaker 1: Going to be a little more patient with and they
Speaker 1: have the ability to do that. Should Flake Snell be
Speaker 1: able to come back healthy, k k her Nandez is
Speaker 1: going to bring a jolice off the bench. He'll be back,
Speaker 1: barring everything going okay this next week of rehab in
Speaker 1: Sacramento on the twenty eighth to kick off the first
Speaker 1: home stand.
Speaker 4: So all these.
Speaker 1: Guys coming back are just giving the Dodgers what they
Speaker 1: believe to be more reinforcements. And I do tend to
Speaker 1: agree that outside a very very few players, maybe two
Speaker 1: to three tops, you're not going to get better.
Speaker 4: You're not your roster's not going.
Speaker 1: To get better than they would if you got Snell
Speaker 1: Glass now and Edmunds back.
Speaker 3: Guys are coming back, but what if they don't, or
Speaker 3: what if they're not right, or what if they pitch
Speaker 3: and then they're shit back down. That's what I worry about.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm worried the most about. I know a
Speaker 3: lot of fans. You know, we saw this team win
Speaker 3: a World Series in twenty twenty four with a super
Speaker 3: thin starting rotation. You're not always going to get lucky
Speaker 3: that way. And looking at how the organization is stacked
Speaker 3: right now, you got a lot of outfield depth. You
Speaker 3: can't play six outfielders last time I checked, you know,
Speaker 3: a couple of years down the road, and this potentially
Speaker 3: being the final time they could flex some financial might.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at. It's like, just go do it
Speaker 3: because you can just just dump it out at the
Speaker 3: trade deadline, as it were, with all due respect to everybody,
Speaker 3: Shove me a second, and prepare for the worst case
Speaker 3: scenarios because you got to win this threepeat. Shit's about
Speaker 3: to change with the CBA coming up. That's that's kind
Speaker 3: of you know, my final thoughts, saving the best of
Speaker 3: my part of this to the end. Here I worry
Speaker 3: about those worst case.
Speaker 4: Scenarios, and that's your job. That's your job.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I'm not, you know, a
Speaker 1: Dodger's defender by any means, and try to do them
Speaker 1: as objectively as possible. If there's one executive in baseball
Speaker 1: that I trust if things hit the fan at the deadline,
Speaker 1: it's Inrew Freeman. He's not going in there like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have no plan on August second, like he's good
Speaker 1: at figuring out things. I mean, they didn't think they
Speaker 1: were to Kyle Tucker or Edwin Diaz, and those things
Speaker 1: appeared within basically thin air, and between the forty eight
Speaker 1: to seventy two hours later both were Dodgers.
Speaker 4: So I will again be rational.
Speaker 1: And you know what, if I'm wrong here and the
Speaker 1: Dodgers have three starting pitchers in the middle.
Speaker 4: Of August, then I will rightfully rip the team.
Speaker 1: But oh now, right now, I trust the process with
Speaker 1: this organization, and I think they've warranted that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's just see what the market looks like come July
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, and expect one crazy week going into the deadline.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. Hoping for the best, prepare for the worst,
Speaker 3: and also I'm pretty sure people are going to be
Speaker 3: upset that you even mentioned Kyle Tucker right now, there's somebody
Speaker 3: in the chat who's a nagas we're not that we're
Speaker 3: not talking about the offensive issues of this team, which
Speaker 3: maybe we'll do that later this week, but.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see it with this pitching. You see the
Speaker 1: Phillies probables, We're going to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll talk about the Phillies in just a second.
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Speaker 3: of a vacake and much needed VACA. So grind time,
Speaker 3: Katie for the Dodgers for you. Uh, long day Yankee
Speaker 3: Stadium yesterday, late bus trip for the team, late trip
Speaker 3: for you into Philly, quick turnaround. Uh, you need to
Speaker 3: see something good out of Amachian tonight because, as you said,
Speaker 3: they are opening with Christopher Sanchez. Are the Phillies. What
Speaker 3: do you need to see in the series besides a
Speaker 3: little bit of survival tonight?
Speaker 1: Well, first, uh, checking my phone here, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: We just talked about probables. The Dodgers are gonna switch.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go Robo Tuesday Lower Wednesday. Shean obviously still
Speaker 1: starting today, so she and Robo lower despite us being
Speaker 1: told the opposite order yesterday. Things changed frequently in Dodgers Lands.
Speaker 1: You always got to be on your toes. I think
Speaker 1: for the Dodgers this is a big test because there
Speaker 1: are only two teams really in the National League that
Speaker 1: I feel can really challenge them, the Phillies and the Brewers.
Speaker 1: And this is the Phillies team that you know, we
Speaker 1: saw early in the season they were really struggling wing
Speaker 1: unto a new manager change midway through the season. They
Speaker 1: were not the Philadelphia team that we expected them to be.
Speaker 4: They are now.
Speaker 1: They have definitely caught their groove and they can shove.
Speaker 4: You. Look at these guys.
Speaker 1: Are not going to see Lozardo, but you're gonna Seezach
Speaker 1: Wheeler should have been an All Star. You're going to
Speaker 1: see Christopher Sanchez started the All Star Game, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna see Aaron Nola who These are all three names
Speaker 1: that could start any playoff game for any team.
Speaker 4: And you're feeling pretty good about so uh for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Who have been kind of tested with their quality of
Speaker 1: the bad so they did a nice job in Game
Speaker 1: one of taking advantage of a rally or poor a
Speaker 1: day for Max Schuban and right field for the Yankees.
Speaker 4: But now it's about generating more of those rallies.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are great at taking advantage of mistakes, but
Speaker 1: can they create their own offense? I would love to
Speaker 1: see that during this series. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: big test for them in terms of the arms they
Speaker 1: are going to face. Offense has been a little bit low.
Speaker 1: We'd like to see chi Oskar hit a little more.
Speaker 1: We'd like to see more production out of the tool
Speaker 1: all season long. Kyle Tucker continues to you know, just
Speaker 1: be kind of okay, So can the Dodgers find some
Speaker 1: offense where they're not you know, scratching inclined two to
Speaker 1: three runs a game.
Speaker 4: More rallies like Game one.
Speaker 1: Against the Yankees would be nice and I think would
Speaker 1: calm everyone down in the comments section.
Speaker 3: Most importantly, Yeah, I need to see something out of Shean.
Speaker 3: Jy Kim in the chat right now mentioning Shean's kind
Speaker 3: of been on an upward trajectory ever since being sort
Speaker 3: of called out by Dave. You know he's been on one.
Speaker 3: You need, you need, You're not matching, you know, Sanchez
Speaker 3: pitch for pitch, but just do what you can, keep
Speaker 3: the team in the game, give yourself an opportunity to win.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree, this is a big series. Is
Speaker 3: a team that you very well could face in an NLDS,
Speaker 3: in an NLCS. They've already I think Dodgers are two
Speaker 3: and one against them this year. But like you said,
Speaker 3: it's a different team then this is a team that's
Speaker 3: gelling a lot better. They're they're just a hair healthier.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're facing two of their best. So I'll
Speaker 3: be around. We know a Lota will be here, but
Speaker 3: I will be postgaming on Wednesday after the series. I
Speaker 3: don't know who's joining me yet. We'll figure that out.
Speaker 3: She will be back with me, that lady right there,
Speaker 3: will be back with me on Thursday as we talk
Speaker 3: about the series and prep for one final series in
Speaker 3: New York against the Mets. Look at some future Dodgers
Speaker 3: in that series. Good stuff. As always, Katie, appreciate the
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