1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: It is your first month on the job, so I 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: just want to start off by asking you, how are 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: you going to do things differently from your predecessor. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's about doing things differently, but I 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: will tell you that we have this motto we've been 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: talking through. It's long Live Golf, and we are celebrating 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: the game of golf. We're celebrating the opportunity that we're 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: in a business that's growing, with a fandom that's actually 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: growing and increasing, which is incredible and inspiring. We have 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: this kickoff right here or tee off to our season 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: in Riad, which is a showcase of showcases. We have 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the best golfers in the world. We have the Backstreet 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Boys playing tonight. It's about as fun as it can 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: possibly be on a golf course. 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: So talk to me about why you brought the tournament 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: to Reod. This is the actual first tournament, live tournament 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: to end redd you mentioned Backstreet book, But how is 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: this going to appeal to the broader audience? 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Well, first off, live is very different from a golf 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: tournament that you might have experienced and may have known. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: We bring the fund to the game. 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: And so if you were here with us, which I 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: hope you are next year, you would find an incredible 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: fan zone which is teaming with families and interactive VR 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and AR games. There's a bit of a carnival. We 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: have incredible food trucks, there's music in a stage where 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: you have incredible DJs and bands like the Backstreet Boys 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: coming on tonight. And then you have the best golfers 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: in the world, and so we want to bring them 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: to the four Corners of the world. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: And in Riad you. 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Have one of the most important cities in the world. 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: And so this is the center. 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're thrilled to be here. 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, many of our viewers watching this interview will 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: be interested to see where the discussions with the PGA 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: are going. And we know that the PGA Tour Commissioner 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: actually did go to the White House yesterday. He had 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: a meeting with President Chump and on the back of 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: that meeting he did say that Trump has brought PGA 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: closer to a deal with Live. Well, well, speaking to 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: you right now, what is the status of those conversations. 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: How close are we in reality. 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: To a deal? 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, we have been four of and about growing 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the game of golf, and there are so many new 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: and exciting leaders. If you look at Derek Sprague at 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: PGA of America and Mark Darbin at the RNA, and 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm new at Live and I know the PGA is 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: looking for a new executive as well to work alongside Jay, 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and I think that provides an opportunity for us all 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: to take a step back, appreciate where we are in 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: this moment of time, and move forward. The fact that 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the leader of the free world, the President of the 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: United States, thinks that golf is this important that he 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: can engage makes us really happy and validates how important 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: this game is. And I still believe it's one of 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: life's great teachers and just as important as we could 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: possibly find today and bring this game together. So any 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: news that brings us closer to that, I think is 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: really welcome news for all the golf founds around the world. 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: Have you spoken to the President directly yourself? 64 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: I have not known. 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: In a few weeks, we'll be in Miami playing at Doral, 66 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: which is a trump course, and I imagine he'll make 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: an appearance there. But you know, in these first thirty days, 68 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: I've had the time of a life time in my 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: life getting to know these incredible stars like Brooks Koepka 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and Dustin Johnson and Bryson d. Chambeau. We have the 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: best players from around the world. That's been an experience 72 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: getting ready for this incredible events season kicking off in 73 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: riod and getting our feet under us and planning for 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: the future. 75 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: Now, I know you're not in position to give us 76 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: the contours of the deal, but is it your expectation 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: that if a deal does come to fruition, that it 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: would allow for more coexistence between live players and the 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: PGA Tour. Is it your expectation that ultimately live players 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: could participate in the PGA Tour without being penalized. 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: You know, our focus right now is on making sure 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: we put the take the best players in the world 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: to the best locations in the world. It's a deal 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: and a construct that we've all been working on for 85 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: some time, and we're all focused on the same goals 86 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: and objectives, and that is to grow this game, put 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: as many of the greatest players on the biggest stages 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: of the world. And while I'd love to walk chapter 89 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: and verse into the deal, I will tell you that 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: anything that's good for this game is good for live 91 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: and we're thrilled that there's progress being made. 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want of recent developments. Earlier this week at 93 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: the US Open, became the first major to actually create 94 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: an exemption for live goal players. Do you expect other 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: majors to follow suits as well? 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: You know, very appreciative of Mike Wan and his leadership 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: at the us GA. 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: We heard today. 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: From Mark Darbin, who runs the RNA and the Open Championship, 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: and they will be following suit, and at least the 101 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: early conversations with Derek Sprague at the PGA of America 102 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: are are very. 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: Positive as well. 104 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: So it seems as if the headwinds are becoming tailwinds. 105 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: There seems to be this incredible arc of momentum. And 106 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: whether that's you know, our deal with Fox in the US, 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: or our deal with I t V in the UK, 108 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: or all the incredible partners we've had. Madden is our 109 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: title partner here and Barri just came on board as 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: well and Ros So we're starting to get momentum in 111 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: terms of the entire business. So it's it's it's it's 112 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: quite expected in terms of where we're heading. 113 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned some of those broadcasting arrangements and obviously 114 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: the p IF have have put in billions into live revenues. 115 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: A big question mark from here onwards to what extent 116 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: do you think those types of broadcasting, those arrangements are 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: all going to be additive to your future revenue flow. 118 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: You know, I'm here for one reason, and that's because 119 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: spending time with his Excellency Yasser al Romayan is a 120 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: man of vision and compassion, passion for the game of golf. 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: He's got incredible love and understanding of what's to come 122 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: and the investment to put this many incredible star players 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: together will result in an incredible business. And so the 124 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: foundational years have been built and now we're ready to 125 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: grow this business. So it's a it's a really special 126 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: moment in time right now. 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, beyond broadcasting arrangements, what are your priorities for growth 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: from here onwards? 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: Well, there are different parts of the business. You know, 130 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: we're a bit different from a traditional golf and that 131 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: we have teams and so Bryson D. Chambeau, for example, 132 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: has a team called the Crushers. Kopka has a team 133 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: called Smash. 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 3: Phil Nicholson has the high Flyers. 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: So you have different teams, Dustin Johnson, the Aces. So 136 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: for us, one part is how do we build value 137 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: in those teams, and a lot of that will be 138 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: driven through sponsorship and merchandise. On the league side, it's 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: a pretty traditional model. You know, it's broadcast and sponsorship 140 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: and then event revenue, which are ticket and hospitalities. So 141 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: it's a pretty similar business to what I'm accustomed to 142 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: in the US sports and we're looking to build on 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: the foundation that we have already. 144 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: And on the talent side, do you have any plans 145 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: to bring in any new star players to the Live League? 146 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Well, we have a bit of a constellation of stars. 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Now I mentioned a few before, but Waco'neman is another one. 148 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 1: Terrll Hatton might be the hottest golfer in the world, 149 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: and we signed three of the top five talented players 150 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: in the world to come on this year. So for us, 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: we have a constellation of stars. You don't have to 152 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: look too much further than our leader board to see 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: what's happening. 154 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: And it's a very special time. 155 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about other jurisdictions. Obviously we 156 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: started off the interview speaking about the PGA, but I'm 157 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: curious to see whether you've set your sights on expansion 158 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: in Europe as well. A couple of months ago, Bloomberg 159 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: reported that you were considering a partnership or a tie 160 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: up with the DP World Tour. Can you elaborate on that, 161 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: or at least on some of your European expansion goals. 162 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: I very much appreciate your homework and your questions and 163 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: your diligence. It's very difficult to, as you can imagine, 164 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: to talk about ongoing negotiations or not in all of 165 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: these leagues or aspects DP World Tour. It's been well documented. 166 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: We have some work to do together, and we'll work 167 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: on that and make sure we make good headway. In 168 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: the meantime, you know, we have an incredible event at 169 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Valderrama which will be amazing in Spain, and then at 170 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: JCB in the UK, and so we're well entrenched in Europe. 171 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: And how we all figure out how this ecosystem coexists 172 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: and how these puzzle pieces fit together. I think we'll 173 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: unfold over the next twelve to eighteen months. 174 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: Well, let me just. 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: Put the questions to you then. If we were having 176 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: this interview in a year's time, what would you deem 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: as a marker of your success. What are the achievables 178 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: that you would like to get to over the next 179 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: twelve to eighteen months. 180 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: I imagine you don't mean just a good night's sleep 181 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: and a happy smile, but that'll be the result of 182 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: a lot of positive momentum going forward. We have a 183 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: wonderful team here working very hard, so I would certainly 184 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: like to see increases in our viewership in the US 185 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: and around the world. We actually are in almost eight 186 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: hundred million homes around the world in eight hundred countries 187 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: and territories, and so how we're penetrating that how many 188 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: viewers is very important. 189 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: I'd like to see the game of golf continue to grow. 190 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: That's one of our core attributes in terms of how 191 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: we and KPIs how we look at this is can 192 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: we help grow the game of golf? And then from 193 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: a revenue standpoint, I have some very aggressive goals and 194 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: targets that we are very focused on in terms of 195 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: sponsorship and tickets, and so i'd imagine if a year 196 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: from now, I imagine I'd be having a big smile 197 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: after a very good night's sleep talking about some very 198 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: successful wins. 199 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think the world of golf is doing 200 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: enough to attract the younger audience these days, Well. 201 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: You don't have to look too much further than our events. 202 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it is so much fun to come here, 203 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: so I think I do. Our teams and our stars 204 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: are so engaged in the communities. We put so many 205 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: incredible events on to engage the local community around the world. 206 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: But more importantly, if you cannot help but have fun 207 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: when you step on site. This is not like walking 208 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: into a library. This is quite more like going to 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: an event with your friends. There's music, and there's action, 210 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: and there's there DJs. It is just an absolutely integrated 211 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: experiential and emotional upswing