1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: And welcome back George Norie with you. MK Davis back 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: with us has been researching the subject of sasasquatch for 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: the last thirty years. His quest began quietly with his 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: interest in astrophotography, where he gained experience with film and 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: how to photograph the very faint objects in the heavens. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: MK had seen two very high quality frames from the 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: famous nineteen sixty seven Patterson Gimblin film. It was a 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: bigfoot film and there were nothing like what was commonly 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: shown on the television and in the movie theaters. From 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: there he worked to produce and clears and most unbelievably 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: statued version of the film to the date, MK Davis. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Davis back on Coast to Coast, MK, welcome to the program. 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me, George, glad to be on. 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Are you still shooting photography. 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Very much? Ever since I got into the bigfoot thing. 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: It's I got a couple of telescopes that are just 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 3: kind of gathering dust. 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: What captured your attention beyond the Gimlin film, Well, I. 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: I saw, you know, in the early days of the Internet. 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: I saw a couple of frames that had leaked out 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: onto the Internet that were of really superior quality. My 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: experience with him was that you can't get a good 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: photo from a bad film. And you know, all they 25 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: ever showed of it was, you know, shaky, grainy stuff. 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to watch, hard to keep up with. 27 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: But these were fantastic, and so I just began an inquiry. 28 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: I was. I was more interested. I thought to myself, 29 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: if I could get all of the frames at this quality, 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: that that film would tell its own story. And that's 31 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: what I endeavored to do. And I figured if if 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: if you saw a zipper or anything like that, that 33 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: that was fine with me. But if you but if 34 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: it you saw muscles moving and all of the things 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: that are occur in biology, then so be it. Uh. 36 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: And so I began that that project, and that was 37 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: back in ninety seven. 38 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: I believe, what do you think sasquatch is? 39 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm a kid, Well, if if the Patterson film is 40 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: an example of a sasquatch, then it is some form 41 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: of human? 42 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: What kind of human? 43 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's really interesting, you know. I Uh, I 44 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: was watching a video uh that was done by Jeremiedda Silva, 45 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: professor Jeremida Silva about the the home on n Letti 46 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: that was that was found uh in a Rising Star 47 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: caverns in South Africa and UH the they found five individuals, 48 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: you know, deep down in this cave. 49 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 50 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: It's a miracle, you know that they ever even got 51 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: in there, but they were there. And Jeremi de Silva 52 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: was an expert in locomotion and he he he was 53 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: assigned the hands and the feet to analyze. And what 54 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: he said there struck me because he said that the 55 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: home on the Letti had a curved palm in the 56 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: hands which was a reminiscent of grasping. It had a 57 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: grasping type of hand, and you see that in the 58 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: Patterson film. 59 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Why can't we find one? 60 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: MK, that's a good question. I don't know how many 61 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: there are. I know there's more than one, but you 62 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: know it's mostly they inhabit these these wilder places. Hard 63 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: to get to. I know, the Bluff Creek area is 64 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: very hard and you get and you can get. It 65 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: only gets harder from there. If you go up into 66 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: those mountains and to the foothills of Shasta. Anything can 67 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: be living up in there. 68 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: If there's only one, how long do you think they live? 69 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question, the one the one that 70 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: you can only on the field and you can only 71 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: prove that it lives sixty Seve Dickens Uh, it's it's uh. 72 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: We don't have any way of getting long term studies 73 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: on them. And that's the I think that's the ultimate 74 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: goal of science is to is to document over time 75 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: what what uh these things, how they survived, and how 76 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: they how their existence relates to our existence. 77 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: They are dramatic. You know, you call it sasquatch. Some 78 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: people call it bigfoot. Is there a difference? 79 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. Sasquatch is more of an indigenous 80 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: uh name. Uh, it's it's a little older. Before that, 81 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: it was like wild man, uh, and different versions of 82 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: the wild man mountain devil. A lot of people were 83 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: scared of them if they inhabited a certain mountain. I 84 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: think Lewis and Clark actually we're trying to go upon 85 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: a mountain that was said to be inhabited by the 86 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: mountain devils. And he couldn't get his guides to go, 87 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: and they said they would surely be killed, and they 88 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't go. 89 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Gimlin film for a second. Some 90 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: think it's phony. Mkay, what about you. 91 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: I'll say that I am one hundred percent that is 92 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: not a phony film. I won't say that it hasn't 93 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: been I hate to use the word manipulated, but it's 94 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: been edited. Also whenever whenever the first I call it 95 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: walk sequences. You know, it starts out she's in the 96 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: first walk sequence, and then she walks across the sandbar 97 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: and he's about to go into the woodline. And then 98 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: suddenly the scene changes and she's out in the open 99 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: walking upstream with the with the free walk you know, 100 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: with the arms swinging to look back sequence. 101 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: Some people believe sasquatch Bigfoot is an extraterrestrial. Some believe 102 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: it's dimensional. You mentioned the possibility of some type of human. 103 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: What really might it be? 104 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: Well, don't I don't really, I don't really write that off, 105 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: you know, like I said to himn't been studied. But 106 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: I do know that the Hoopahs and the Eurocs and 107 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: the Carouks's the three main tribes in the area of 108 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: Bluff Creek consider that area to be sacred. And it's 109 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: very interesting about uh, you know why they consider it 110 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: to be sacred. There are two peaks upon that mountain, 111 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: upon that mountain range, and one of us called UH 112 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: Medicine Peak or Doctor Rock, and the other one is 113 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: called Chimney Rock. And their belief is and why it's 114 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: so sacred. Their belief is that the UH there was 115 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: once a another type of human living there, and that 116 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: they went back to the stars through a hole in 117 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: the sky from those two peaks. So you know that 118 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: that'll make you think. I late at night UH in 119 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: Laust camp on the ground, in my sleeping bag, and 120 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: in the wee hours of the morning, I heard chanting 121 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: and chanting was coming down, filtering down through the night 122 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 3: air from up above. Most likely those two peaks. They 123 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: trained shamans up there, uh. And it they get they're 124 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: so sacred that they formed human chains to try to 125 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: keep the construction out of there whenever they were building 126 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: that road they call the Go road. 127 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: These animals or whatever they may be, seemed to have knowledge, 128 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: seemed to be somewhat human less ape. Don't you think. 129 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: That's that's my thinking? Uh? I think you know, based 130 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: upon what what doctor silk Silva said and having the 131 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: Patterson subject have that very feature which they knew nothing 132 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: about at the time that the film was made, incorporated 133 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: into you know, to the to the individual, it seems 134 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: to point toward a more ancient type of person. And 135 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: it really it shocked me when I found out how 136 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: the age of the Homo mileni, and it shot the 137 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: professor as well. They were thinking it was going to 138 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: be something like two point five million years old, and 139 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: it was three hundred thousand when they had it tested. 140 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: And that's close enough to modern man. There's the possibility 141 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: of coexisting. 142 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: Is there? 143 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: And I know you're going to want some them after 144 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 4: hearing this. This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen 145 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: and Malaki Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. I understand that Malachi, 146 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: who is eight almost nine years old now, was suffering 147 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: with not just one or two warts, but I mean 148 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 4: a significant outbreak of warts all over his body, so 149 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: significant it impacted his ability to really function. 150 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 151 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right. 152 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: Was Tie's book. Actually that got me thinking about it. 153 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. 154 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 5: It is an amazing immunal modulator, and so I can 155 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 5: see that it would work. 156 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 4: And so at what point did you see that there 157 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: was actually improvement, It's really going to work. 158 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 5: Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks. 159 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller 160 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 5: and then going down to with just little red monks. 161 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's 162 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: you know one the size of the warner. I thought, 163 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: no way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to 164 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 5: see him get into a pair of shoes. 165 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: Yes, how wonderful. 166 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 5: It's great to see him so happy and yeah. 167 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: Competent, absolutely wonderful. 168 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: Friends that have seen it, that is blown away. TI, 169 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: this is awesome. 170 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is awesome. 171 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 6: Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora. 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Uh, you know, so yeah, 180 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 3: handing it, handing the baton off to a more energetic 181 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: person with with that that grit and the wheel to 182 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: go and run down these leads. I'm probably looking for 183 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: that person. 184 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: When most people hear the word sasquatch, your bigfoot, what 185 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: do they think. 186 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: Monster? Mostly? 187 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Have there ever been reports of a bigfoot hurting anybody? 188 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there have been. Usually it occurs 189 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: with you know, it's like anything that's living out in 190 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: the wilds that if you mess with them then they 191 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: can't come down on you. And they have unusual things 192 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: happen around bigfoot sightings that are absolutely you just make 193 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: you scratch your head. One thing is, and I've seen 194 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: this myself, a set of tracks that stopped. It was 195 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: about twelve or fifteen of the tracks so heavy they 196 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: pressed down in the ground four inches and then it 197 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: just stopped, you know. So it's that's freaky. Most animals 198 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: you can track all the way to the animal, especially 199 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: if they're putting down those type tracks. Uh. And and 200 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: then there's other things too that that some of it 201 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: even has made its way into a film that seemed 202 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 3: to be more I don't know how to say it, 203 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: but uh unknown science science Uh, the flash will take place, 204 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: a camera picks it up, the camera adjusts the iris automatically, 205 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: and then when it's over, the camera readjusts. So you 206 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: know it. You know the camera saw it. It wasn't 207 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: just an anomaly in the chip or something. I don't 208 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: know what that is. But uh, you know, until until 209 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: you do know what it is, you know, I recommend 210 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: you know, don't don't push them. You might You're sighting 211 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: may not be what you think it should should be. 212 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: But if you go pushing something like that that we 213 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: don't even know anything about, you could find yourself maybe missing. 214 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: In the Himalayas, there's something called the Abominable Snowman. Is 215 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: it related to Bigfoot? 216 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: Well, if I may quote John Green, famous Bigfoot researcher 217 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: from Canada, Harrison Hot Springs, when he was under the 218 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: employee of Tom Slick, the Texas all millionaire. He he 219 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: said that he found some pickle matter, and the fecal 220 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: matter contained freshwater plants for northern California, and it contained 221 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: parasites from some Indian groups, but also people and pigs 222 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: from Southwest China. 223 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 224 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: This was sent to a fully outfitted lab that Tom 225 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: Slick had had had constructed and uh and and and 226 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: employed scientists there, and still that lab is still open 227 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: to this day. 228 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 229 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: You know that that puzzle greened so much that he 230 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: made him kind of dismissive of it. He said, well, 231 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: you know that can't be Uh, but parasites from southwest China, 232 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: maybe there is some relationship back to that in ancient times. 233 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: Maybe then again maybe not. 234 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a puzzle. 235 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 236 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: That's why I say there's more than enough research to 237 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: go around. 238 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: Remember Lauren Coleman, and he's not doing as much as 239 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: he used to. 240 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I remember him. 241 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: One of the greatest cryptozoologists. Would you consider yourself a crypto? 242 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: I consider myself a reluctant crypto. 243 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: Why reluctant. 244 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: I wasn't intended to get into crypto zoology, you know. 245 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 3: I was just going to be a problem solver. That's 246 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: sort of what I was trying to be. And the 247 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: more you got into this, the more you saw, the 248 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: more you saw one problem, and then you had another, 249 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 3: and another and another, and then you start to kind 250 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: of expand add into other animals and other things that 251 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: are crypto zoological in nature. The Earth is in some 252 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: ways the Earth is small, you know, and in terms 253 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 3: of comparing it to the space, but it's in other 254 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: ways it's huge and comparing it to what it contains 255 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: on it such a unique place in the universe. Haven't 256 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: found anything like it. 257 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: The story one day of somebody I mentioned this on 258 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: the program. He was fishing by the side of a 259 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: lake and he said, behind him apparently was a bigfoot 260 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: and he caught too trout. He's holding them up and 261 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 2: the bigfoot is staring at the trout, so he gave 262 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: them to him. Bigfoot then had a trout in each hand, 263 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: looked at the guy and gave one back. Does that 264 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: sound real? 265 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know this probably as possible. 266 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I could see it happening. 267 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: They seem to have a caring for humanity. 268 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: Well, like you said, they seem to want to be 269 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: left alone. They don't want to to hurt anybody. Don't 270 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: want to be hurt. 271 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: Where is the Patterson Gimblin film? Now, okay, well that's 272 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: a good question. Now there's versions of it in lots 273 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: of different places, from Russia to Yeah, there's I had 274 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: a version I worked with for a while. The original, 275 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: which is what I was endeavoring to try to get 276 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: to so much superior to these copies that are around. 277 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: I have five frames that I got from Miss Patterson 278 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: herself that came off the original. She told me it did, 279 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: and I believe it because of their superior quality. It's 280 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: supposed to be in a vault and never having been projected. 281 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 282 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: one a m. 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