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Speaker 1: As the stage your late crackers fray ship.

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Speaker 2: We will see you. Ton's the corner. Un welcome to

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Speaker 2: hang out.

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Speaker 3: Since the Just Baseball Show for Thursday, March sixteenth.

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Speaker 4: Jack mcfallan, arm Laighton word in person today? Is that

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Speaker 4: exciting stuff? I love the way you phrase that kind

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Speaker 4: of I guess right, yeah, not really. I'm already getting

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Speaker 4: sick of. I like my zoom hole little bit better.

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Speaker 3: I like my apartment where I don't have to talk

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Speaker 3: to anybody and I just hop on zoom and he's.

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Speaker 4: Like, hey, this is my social interaction for the day.

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, Well, when you're talking

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Speaker 4: I can open a Fangrafts tab too. I don't have

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Speaker 4: to look at you, and you don't have to listen. Now,

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Speaker 4: so we should tell the people what we did today.

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Speaker 4: So you just got in. You and I drove to

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Speaker 4: Jupiter to go see thirty five forty minutes. Yeah, thirty

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Speaker 4: five forty to go see Uri Perez. We get there,

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Speaker 4: rain delay, They banged the game within fifteen minutes. We

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Speaker 3: You and I are not good with ballpark food, like

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Speaker 3: I spend you know, one hundred and fifty days of

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Speaker 3: that ballpark food. No, because when you smell it and like,

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Speaker 3: no discredit to any ballpark, but when you smell it

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Speaker 3: at two pm every day, seven pm game every day,

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Speaker 3: and you smell the oil that the chicken tenders are

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a PBMJ for the fourteenth day in

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Speaker 4: a row. So yeah, you and I got there. We

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, like the game is banged.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, we could have gotten something better, So

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Speaker 4: we didn't get to see Yuri. We forced down overpriced

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Speaker 4: fried food. Yeah, and we're gonna go to the World

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Speaker 4: Baseball Classic game tonight, which by the time people are

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Speaker 4: listening to this, there would have already been a definitive

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Speaker 4: winner between Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Yes, and

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Speaker 4: it's winner moves on. Yes. So I mean, you can't

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Speaker 4: ask for anything more if you're a lone depot park,

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Speaker 4: if you're the Marlins that are probably raking in talk

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Speaker 4: about concessions. This is probably the most they've made off

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Speaker 4: of concessions in years, correct, and the environment in this

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Speaker 4: game is going to be exciting. So obviously we can't

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Speaker 4: I are happened, and it hasn't happened for us inception there.

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Speaker 4: But we are excited to recap it because we will

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Speaker 4: be recapping it by the time it already happens on

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Speaker 4: the next episode tomorrow. But today we are talking about

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Speaker 4: something a little different.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the American League Central, and you and

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Speaker 3: Peter spent ninety minutes talking about the We're not doing

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Speaker 3: ninety minutes on the American League Central only because that

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Speaker 4: Central kind of sucks everybody. So yeah, Like, the Guardians

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Speaker 4: And then the Royals and Tigers I want to spend

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Speaker 4: I mean, this division is just no bueno but last

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Speaker 4: thing in the World Baseball Classic. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 4: ton of video content, a ton of written content coming out.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to be following our socials.

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Speaker 3: Of course at j just BB Underscore Media, I should

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Speaker 3: Underscore Media on Twitter, We're gonna be putting stuff out there.

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Speaker 4: Now on the YouTube. So our video guy, Will Cohen,

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Speaker 4: I think Americans consume sports in a slightly more boring way.

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Speaker 3: we're going off Fangrafts Roster Resource Opening Days. Starting lineup

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Speaker 3: projection Bobby wit Junior leading off as short.

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Speaker 1: MJ.

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Speaker 3: Melendez, while we love him and while we know that

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Speaker 4: Catch so, Okay, a couple thanks on pack there.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like some of the other positions those

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Speaker 4: guess what, Oblique? It's year of the Oblique. A horrible year, dude,

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Speaker 4: horrible year to be an oblique. Post sixty game COVID

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Speaker 4: Twenty three is the year. You don't know, bleak tracker,

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Speaker 4: is Gregory Soto going to do for you as a reliever,

431
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Speaker 4: you know, as a not going to compete. Yeah, a

432
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 4: volatile setup man. I know he was their closer, but ultimately,

433
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Speaker 4: once they are more competitive, that is not your closer.

434
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 4: I didn't hate to pick up for the Phillies, just

435
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 4: another arm in the bullpen that's capable of closing. But

436
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 4: for the Tigers they needed more bats and both Ling

437
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 4: Vierling hits the ball hard and plays great defense. Like

438
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 4: there's still a scenario where that twenty six year old

439
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Speaker 4: figure something out. If he doesn't, he's still a great

440
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 4: bench option fourth outfielder. It's kind of similar with Mayton.

441
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 4: He hits the ball hard, he's kind of intriguing. Again

442
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 4: if it doesn't quite work out for him, another twenty

443
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 4: six year old, he is a good bench option. So

444
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 4: to turn one guy in the bullpen into two solid

445
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 4: bench options who could be regulars, I think that's absolutely

446
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 4: worth it for where this Tiger's team is at. I

447
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: actually think this Tiger's team is better than you give

448
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Speaker 4: them credit for. And the reason why is a lot

449
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: of anticipation of bounce back. Yeah, and you just went

450
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Speaker 4: through the lineup. I'm I'm the most confident all like

451
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Speaker 4: kind of rank it. I'm the most confident in Riley

452
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 4: Green bouncing back. Yes, I'm fairly confident in Spencer Torklesen

453
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Speaker 4: bouncing back.

454
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Speaker 2: Yes.

455
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: I do believe in Austin Meadows, who's dealing with a

456
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 4: lot of other things off the field that I had.

457
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get himself kind of back into

458
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 4: the flow of things. I don't know what to expect

459
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Speaker 4: from Hobby Buy. He can't be worse, and I think

460
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Speaker 4: I'm in on Kerry Carpenter and so, and then ak

461
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Speaker 4: is in the department of can't be worse. So I

462
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 4: think this offense could be decent. They're moving the walls

463
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 4: in that's gonna help as well. I think that's gonna help.

464
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 4: Just give confidence to these young hitters too, right, I

465
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 4: mean Torkosen had some of the worst batted ballluck in

466
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: baseball Miiley Green. If I showed you the spray charts

467
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 4: how many deep flyouts he has had to left and

468
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 4: right center, Like just knowing as a hitter that more

469
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: of those will turn into home runs instead of flyouts.

470
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Speaker 4: I just I feel like this is going to be

471
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Speaker 4: a good year for some of these guys offensively. Also,

472
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Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Scope, I feel like, can't be worse

473
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Speaker 4: offensively than he was last year. It'd be worse. I

474
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 4: saw Tigers My god, he had a fifty seven WRC

475
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: plus it can't be worse either. Yeah.

476
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Speaker 3: I saw Tiger's Twitter clamoring for a month audition for

477
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Speaker 3: Scope this year, Like, if he sucks after a month,

478
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: you've got.

479
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: A couple options in the minor leagues.

480
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Speaker 3: And Andre Lipsius, who like is a is a slightly

481
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 3: above average hitter, or Ryan Kreidler, who had some prospect intrigue,

482
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Speaker 3: who was kind.

483
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 4: Of dealing with some injury here and there.

484
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Speaker 3: But those guys like if Scope is a sixty WRC

485
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 3: plus again, you immediately improve with Lipsius.

486
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

487
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I think there are worse outfields in

488
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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. I think they are a top twenty five.

489
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: Out major League Baseball with Badu slash Verling, with Green

490
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Speaker 4: in center and with Austin me and you throw Carpenter

491
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Speaker 4: into that. I really think Carpenter was that triple A guy,

492
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: that double triple A guy that just figured it out

493
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 4: last year raped. I mean, he was the Christian and

494
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 4: Carnassio and Strand of the Upper Mines. And I think

495
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: some people may say, oh, well, how will that translate

496
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: to the big, big level. I really think it will.

497
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 4: I really do. I think he's going to be an

498
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: offensive force for them. I wouldn't be surprised if he

499
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: is one of their best hitters this coming season. I

500
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if it goes Green, Carpenter, Torkles, not

501
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 4: at all, not at all. So I think there's enough

502
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: irons in the fire of guys that have the upside

503
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: of being a well above average hitter that I think

504
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Speaker 4: this offense is gonna be good enough. Hobby Bia is

505
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: obviously the big X factor here, Right, What if they

506
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: get close to what these projections are for these projections

507
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 4: are actually terrible. If they can get something better than

508
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 4: these projections for hobby Bias, they'll be in good shape.

509
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 4: I am interested to see. It just seems like for

510
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 4: him it's like almost a matter of effort and focus

511
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 4: because you see him in the w you see looks

512
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: locked in and he looks great. Yeah he's Almago again.

513
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: And then he goes back to the Tigers and they're

514
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 4: playing meaningless baseball in his eyes, I assume, and it

515
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: just looks terrible.

516
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Speaker 3: So that that's the big X factor there, Right, Does

517
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: Miguel Cabrera slug better than three seventeen in his final year?

518
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 4: Yes? Has to, has to. God. I hope he goes out.

519
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 4: I don't expect a poo whole scenario here, but I

520
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: hope he. I hope he goes out with some some respect.

521
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Speaker 4: That's my all time favorite player, you know's It's just

522
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: it's always tough watching them slow down like that. One

523
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: of the few Florida Marlins left, so you know it's

524
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Speaker 4: it's uh. Are there any other four Florida, Mike Stanton,

525
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 4: Jean Carlos Stanton. There's probably a couple more, but not many.

526
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Speaker 4: I think Stanton will probably be the last one that

527
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: makes sense, which is crazy to think about.

528
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: Damn all right, rotation, Eduardo Rodriguez, Matthew Boyd who they

529
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Speaker 3: just resigned, Michael Lorenzen who they signed to a free

530
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Speaker 3: age deal.

531
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Speaker 4: Hey, he can also hop in the outfield.

532
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: According to my wants wants to Matt Manning, who has

533
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: just looked brutal in spring training, and then Spencer Turnbull

534
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: as the five. This is without Casey Mayes, who is

535
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Speaker 3: going to miss the entirety this year with Tommy John.

536
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: And this is without Trek scuobl who had flexor tendon

537
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: surgery last August, so he's probably missing the entirety of

538
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Speaker 3: this year.

539
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Speaker 4: Is he missing the holds of this ye? I think so.

540
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: It's so hard to keep up with all these injury timelines,

541
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 4: which I mean, here's the thing, there are so many

542
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: fucking injuries, especially arms with pitchers. And if it's not

543
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 4: Tommy John, which I can automatically just count eight sixteen

544
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 4: eight months ago, like flexer surgery. I don't even know

545
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: what that is. Like, I think he might come back

546
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: at some point this year, but you can't really bake

547
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: him into this rotation, right because you don't know what

548
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 4: you're gonna get from him. And they're gonna take their

549
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: sweet time with him because he's their best arm, right,

550
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 4: he's their best arm. I will say, e Rod has

551
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: looked spectacular this spring training. And I know that we

552
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 4: always talk about taking spring training stats with a grain

553
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Speaker 4: of salt. This is just looking at a guy pitch

554
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 4: with confidence and attack hitters, and the stuff looks good.

555
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: Like I do believe that all of the extracurricular stuff

556
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: that he had going on last year that limited him

557
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: to what was it just ninety one innings, he looks

558
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 4: fresh and we know that could be ahead. Fuck yes,

559
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 4: one hundred per one hundred percent, And I think he

560
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: looks fresh. Yeah, like he looks he looks like he

561
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: threw ninety one innings last year. Yeah. So I actually

562
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: think he's gonna bounce back this year. I really do,

563
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: because remember what we were saying about him, he over

564
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: or underperformed all of the advanced metrics pitching in Fenway Park,

565
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: right that the three three two FI, the four seven

566
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: four era, and we're like, oh my gosh, he goes

567
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: to Kamerica. He's going to be great. He's so yeah.

568
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: They had all the things going on right and he

569
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: still had a four h five. It wasn't like he

570
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: was bad. No, I know they're moving the walls in.

571
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Speaker 4: It will still be better than pitching in Fenway, which

572
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: is number two in park factor right in terms of

573
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: most hitter friendly ballparks. Yes, I think he's gonna be

574
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: a really solid pitcher for them this year. That helps

575
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: a ton. But who else do you feel good about?

576
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: I wish I could say Manning, But this is the

577
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 4: last chance for Matt Manning. He looked good at points

578
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: last year, but then like you.

579
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: See his battery mate setting up loan Away and then

580
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: he hits Turner in the face with fastball, Like that's

581
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: not a recipe for success at all.

582
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: And I have no idea if that specific. You know,

583
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: pitch is going to live with Matt Manning. But what

584
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: I can say is that guy, when he's not right.

585
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: It's clear to everybody in the ballpark and it's clear

586
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: to everybody watching at home. There are guys that can

587
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: overcome not having like really any pitch. If they say like, yeah,

588
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling it today, a lot of fans would

589
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: just be like, Noah, he looked fine to me. Not

590
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: Matt Manning. Like that guy he kind of wears the

591
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: struggles all the time. And that's a really concerning thing,

592
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: I think going into his final year of having the

593
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: opportunity to prove something.

594
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. And then you got two guys

595
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: in Boyd and Lorenzen that we're relievers mostly right.

596
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: I mean Boyd, I I was drinking the Michael Lorenzen

597
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: kool aid. I was kind of in on it now,

598
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: like two months into the season last year when the

599
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: Angels were like one of the best teams in baseball, was.

600
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: Like, Lorenzen looks gas and then he didn't look gas

601
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: at the end. So no, not at all. And and

602
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: and that's the thing is that's a guy that kind

603
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 4: of swing manish. I think Boyd kind of swing manish.

604
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: I think one of those guys maybe proves that they

605
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 4: can stick as a starter. One of them doesn't. The

606
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: guy that I really like here and we'll see, like

607
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: this is this is a big roll of the dice

608
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 4: is Mason Angler. They're Rule five draft pick from the

609
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: Texas Rangers. This is gonna be a big test for

610
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: him as a guy that was left unprotected. Not because

611
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: he isn't good, because I think that the Texas Rangers

612
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: felt like nobody was taking a guy that only threw

613
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: fifteen innings above HyET. But this is a dude with

614
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: great stuff, good command, and I think is continuing to

615
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: look good in spring training. Angler might be the guy

616
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: that can anchor the back after back end of that rotation.

617
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: If you're gonna get a four where from somebody, I'd

618
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: rather be angered than Boyd and let Angert continue to

619
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: grow and mature. I loved that pick for a team

620
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: that still has their top pitching prospects a little ways away,

621
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: you know, Wilmer, Flores, Ti Madden. They probably won't be

622
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: up this year. Maybe at the end of the year.

623
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: Pick up an Angler, say sink or swim, see how

624
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: it goes. But worst case if he if he sinks,

625
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 4: I know that the Rangers will buy him back for

626
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: fifty K. For sure. It's worth a fifty thousand dollars

627
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: roll of the dice. I think so.

628
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: And we haven't even mentioned Bow Brisky or rees Olsen

629
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: that can like fill spots at the back if need be.

630
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't need to spend any time on this bullpen,

631
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: worst bullpen in baseball. Alex lang Is the closer who

632
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 3: like was fine last year, will probably be fine this year.

633
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: But then Jason Foley, Jose Cisnero, will Vest Tyler, Alexander Garrett, Ill,

634
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: Chasen Shreve, barf dude, did.

635
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: Any of them have I think a couple there's a

636
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: couple guys that had sneaky years.

637
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: So I look like, do you play stock in any

638
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: guy being great in this bullpen? Like I think, on paper,

639
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: this is the worst bullpen in baseball?

640
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Is it? Yeah? How did Jason Foley do last year?

641
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: No?

642
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, this is not a good bullpen. It's

643
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: not a good This is not a good bullpen. Thing

644
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: on Yeah, right, all right? Minnesota is three. They are

645
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: likely projected three. They've got an interesting lineup, man, I mean,

646
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: Christian Vasquez will be the catcher with Jeffers as DH.

647
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: We're likely looking at Kiroloff at first, Jorge Polanco at second,

648
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 4: Carlos Correa. They finished third.

649
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: They kind of won the Correas weepstakes at short, Jose

650
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: Miranda at third, who we think is gonna be great

651
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: even in his sophomore year. In the outfield from left

652
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: to right, Gallo Buxton and Max Kepler, with Michael A.

653
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: Taylor available as well, and then you've got Nick Gordon,

654
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: Kyle Farmer and Donovan Solano rounding out the bench.

655
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: With Jeffers.

656
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: Lineup is one that can perform well on a given night.

657
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: They can also strike out twenty times in a given knight.

658
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: This is gonna be a lineup that's gonna disappear nights. Yeah,

659
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. I agree. But they're going to torch

660
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: some teams, yes, Like if they smell blood in the

661
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: water with Matt Manning, they're putting up fourteen rounds correct,

662
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: like that, that's what this team can do.

663
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: I like.

664
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: I like that some of their younger hitters hedge some

665
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: of the issues, like Miranda really isn't a strikeout guy,

666
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: like and even a Carroll Off when he's right, when

667
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: he's healthy and his wrist isn't bothering him, that's not

668
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: a strikeout guy either. Those guys are gonna be big

669
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: for them because you look at the rest of that lineup,

670
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: like there's there's some swing and miss, right, there's a

671
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: lot of swing and miss there. It's it's fascinating because

672
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: I'm very curious to see how they are going to

673
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: maneuver this team. Because you have Royce Lewis, who should

674
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: be back in like June Junior, which is pretty early man,

675
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: and Royce Lewis look the freaking part like in every way,

676
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: So where does he fit in here? And then you know,

677
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 4: you got all of these outfielders in the mix. We're

678
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: not even talking about Trevor Larnick, Matt Wallner, both guys

679
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: that have shown a lot in Triple A that are

680
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: kind of knocking on the door. I think those guys

681
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: are waiting if Joey gallow struggles. But the Twins pid

682
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: Joey Gallo a lot of money he's gonna get, you know,

683
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: relatively speaking, right, He's not waking very eleven million bucks,

684
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: Like that's a lot of money. He's gonna get every shot.

685
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be like an Eric Cosmer if he

686
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: stinks through the first month with DFA and and Kepler

687
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: is gonna get every shot to Kepler's good. I do

688
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: think Key is gonna be fine. Yeah, yeah, But my

689
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: question is they go out and get Michael ay Taylor.

690
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: I like that move to kind of hedge Buckston. You

691
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: can th h Bucks and more often you can get

692
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: him out of center a little bit more. And I

693
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 4: don't think anybody else on this roster was really capable

694
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: of playing center at a high level other than Nick Gordon,

695
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: because Royce is not gonna play out there anymore after

696
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: he tours ACL. So I like the pickup of Michael

697
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: ay Taylor. They give up a couple of decent, you know,

698
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: relief type options in the minors, But I don't how

699
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: do you see this outfield checking out come July? Actually,

700
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: Nay August, I guess as is like Gallo in left,

701
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: Buxton in center, and Kepler and right, Like I guess

702
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: as is. I think that Nick Gordon's gonna get a

703
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: lot of run in the outfield. I think Nick Gordon

704
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 4: is a good ballplayer. Yeah, Like I don't think Larnick

705
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: or Warner really factor in.

706
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: I think Warner strikes out all the times, and like

707
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: that's gonna be incredibly frustrating that he's not somebody, you know,

708
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't typically say that I'm not high

709
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: on like a certain prospect because I don't have like

710
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: the access to to data like a lot of prospect

711
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: people do. But just watching Matt Walner for the last

712
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: couple of years at each stop that I've seen him,

713
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: I don't really like it. There's a lot of power,

714
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: but like I can see the Joey Bart type k

715
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: rate if he can't see.

716
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: The ball from him. Well, and Warnick is a similar

717
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: profile with better defense. He's actually a good defender. People, Well,

718
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: Glarnick is kind of gallow light, which is the interesting thing.

719
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: But I think that the Twins signing of Gallo was

720
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: somewhat of a tip of their hand of how how

721
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: much doubt maybe they have around Walner and Larnick. So Galoo,

722
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: I think you got to assume is gonna be the

723
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: guy yes in a corner pretty much all year, and

724
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: you got you're not taking him out of the outfield

725
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: because his defense is a big part of what you're

726
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: paying for. Yes, he's a solid defender. And I'm buying

727
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: Kepler stock. I am. I'm in on Kepler and I

728
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: think that's another good defender. So where's the space. Those

729
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: are the two corners. Those are the two corners. So

730
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: Buxton Buxton's part time in center. I'm they're gonna manage

731
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: his games. Buckston and Taylor timeshare, that's the thing. I

732
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: think that's the area where if Taylor's not performing, maybe

733
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: you go to another guy, Maybe you go to Nick Gordon. Yeah,

734
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 4: I just don't understand where the app bats come for

735
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: all of these guys. It's a good problem to have,

736
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: right because I think Polanco needs to be in the

737
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: lineup just about every day. I think Miranda needs to

738
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: be in the lineup just about every day. If kiro

739
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: Loof is healthy, he is a star, I think, potential hitter,

740
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: Like I really do think he is a very, very

741
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: very good offensive Piecet twenty five years old. Look at

742
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: what he did in Triple A last year, like it.

743
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: It is really a matter of health for me, I

744
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: think at this point, Like I'm pretty sure his Triple

745
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 4: A numbers were like twelve hundred ops type stuff when

746
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: they sent him down there.

747
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: Kira lov eleven hundred and thirty five games, ten homers

748
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: in thirty five.

749
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: Games, Like this guy Rakes, it's really about health. He

750
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: kept trying to play through all of these these issues.

751
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: But where do you find the space for Lewis. Where

752
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: do you find the space for these other guys? Do

753
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 4: you make a trade?

754
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's what I was going to say, Like

755
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: we're talking about space in the outfield, I'm looking at

756
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 3: the infield. Kyle Farmer and Donovan Solano are are good

757
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: guys to have that are like utility infielders. So you

758
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: are four deep already on the major league roster with

759
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 3: Correa Polanco, Farmer and Solano. What are you going to

760
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: do with Royce Lewis when he comes back? And what

761
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: are you going to do with Edward Julienne, who I

762
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: know that we both love, right Like Polanco's the second basement.

763
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: Where does Julienne play when he's ready? Because like he's

764
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: going to be ready a month end of the season.

765
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: DH. So that's the thing. So with the days that

766
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: Buxton plays, this team is a puzzle. The days that

767
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: Buxton plays center, Michael A. Taylor a eight in the

768
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: lineup right because his value is one hundred percent from

769
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: the glove and that one time of year that he

770
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: hits a ball four eighty and you're like what the fuck? Yeah,

771
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: Like that's what Michael A. Taylor is. So when Buckston's

772
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 4: playing center, which is hopefully for eighty games or more. Damn,

773
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 4: that's gonna be a day where you can DH somebody else.

774
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: And now you can see why the Twins trade of

775
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: Ariahs was so brilliant. They turned a surplus into a

776
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: starting pitcher that could be one of their best arms,

777
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: if not their best arm. Yeah. So that's the last

778
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: thing I'll say on them is like on this lineup

779
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 4: is it's a good problem to have. I think they've

780
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: got trade capital still because Julian's a guy that I

781
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: think is legitimately going to give them what they were

782
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: getting from Arias in a different form, which is just

783
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 4: a ton of offense and not a lot of defense.

784
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: But at least he can play second, can play first

785
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: in DH. I'm very interested to see how they approach

786
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 4: the return of Lewis, the imminent you know, debut of

787
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: of Eduard Julienne, and I think it's going to be

788
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: very fascinating to see how they how they handle this

789
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: all because they've got a lot of options and they

790
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 4: didn't really trade from from the surahp plus aside from

791
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 4: that one move, so it should be very very interesting.

792
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: I could see them, you know, kind of dumping a

793
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 4: Farmer or Solano for a low level prospect or something

794
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: like that later on, but still when Lewis is back,

795
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: if Julian's ever up, those are guys you want to

796
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 4: see playing almost every day. So I just don't know

797
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: how this shakes out again, great problem to have. This

798
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: lineup has a ton of depth, a ton of backup options,

799
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: and they should be in a good spot, which is

800
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: what you want when you have an injury prone Buxton h.

801
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: Correll with obviously health questions, and Gallo with with some

802
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: health questions and consistency consistency questions, and kirol Off with

803
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: some health questions. Have a shit ton of guys that

804
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: could plug in and start. I like that approach.

805
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, all right, rotation. They've got a

806
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: bunch of twos and threes. I'd say a bunch of three,

807
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: bunch of threes, like Pablo Lopez is probably the two, right,

808
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: the two is the one for them, and then a

809
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 3: whole bunch of threes. So Pablo Lopez, Sonny Gray, Joe,

810
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: Ryan Tyler, Mallley, Ken Tamayta waiting in the wings of note.

811
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: You've got Louis Varland, Simeon Woods, Richardson Bailey Ober who's

812
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: healthy again? H I mean, yes, they're deep, but are

813
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: they good enough to win a division? And my initial

814
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: answer is no. I have faith in Pablo. I think

815
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: Pablo Lopez is gonna be the opening day starter for them.

816
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: I think we could see a mid three ZR from Pablo.

817
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: I think we can see a mid three ZRA from

818
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: Joe Ryan. How about Sonny Gray too? But I don't

819
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 3: think you're gonna get the low threes, high twos guy

820
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: in here.

821
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: So here's the thing. We talked about some rotations and

822
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 4: this is like an interesting, like philosophical approach. I guess

823
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 4: we had some rotations where the one two punch is

824
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: great and the three is questionable, and then four or

825
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: five sucks. Yeah, what would you rather have? If you

826
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: have a good offense and this is a gonna be

827
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 4: a good offense, right, if you have a good offense,

828
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: you could feasibly have multiple times where you go through

829
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: the rotation this year and you get five straight quality starts.

830
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: I think, like, I wouldn't be surprised if they got

831
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: five straight. Kentomi Eta was great until he got hurt. Like,

832
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: this is a guy that could be a great option

833
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: for them. And Mally's hopefully stays healthy and can be solid. Like,

834
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: they could get five guys that are in the threes

835
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 4: with their era, albeit its mid threes. But I could

836
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: see all of these guys being subbed four. That's yeah,

837
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: you got nobody that's sub three, But you got nobody

838
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: that's above four. What's the what's the balance there? I

839
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 4: think there's a value to having that ace that can

840
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: go out there and win you a ball game every

841
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: time you're scuffling. Yeah, And that's like, that's something I

842
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: saw with the Marlins last year. No matter how bad

843
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 4: things were, they lose four in a row. Sandy's pitching today,

844
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: we got a shot, right, they don't have that guy

845
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: that it's like, no matter how bad it's going, we

846
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: got a shot. But I do think that Pablo and

847
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: Sonny and even Joe Ryan can give you those flashes

848
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 4: of the two give you those flashes of life. I mean, Pablo,

849
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: we saw it for the first two months of the

850
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: season last year, and he's tweaking his pitch usage a

851
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: little bit, so I think it's going to be interesting thing.

852
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: The Twins are working with him on some stuff there

853
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: with the breaking ball getting a little bit more involved,

854
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: so it's not just fastball change up.

855
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think that this rotation gives them a

856
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: chance to win every night, and that is a really

857
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: unique thing to have because we'll talk about the Guardians

858
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: here in a minute, but I mean we talk about

859
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: Bieber and Mackenzie at the top of that. But then

860
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: you get Savali and Polisack is the four and five

861
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 3: and you don't feel good if.

862
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: The offense isn't good.

863
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: No, Now, this offense we mentioned, they are going to

864
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: be as black and white as you could possibly find,

865
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: where when they're clicking, you are going to be sky

866
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: high confident in this team every time because you're running

867
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: out of three. That'll give you a chance for a

868
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 3: quality start, like you're saying, we'll give you a chance

869
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: to get a win as a starting pitcher, and you

870
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: can win a game five to three. But if this

871
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: offense is striking out all the time and you think

872
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: they're only going to put up one or two runs,

873
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: you don't feel really confident.

874
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: A no, And that's the interesting you know, I think

875
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: conundrum there or balance it, and it's it's an interesting

876
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun to see how they how it

877
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: plays out because They're a unique almost social experiment. Like

878
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: they are a very unique experiment in the baseball scheme

879
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: because it's not traditionally. They're way to answer the question

880
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: does this work? Does this work? And you know what

881
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: if you can't get an ace and you know, they

882
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: don't just grow on trees. They I think have done

883
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: a really good job of addressing the rotation, which we

884
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 4: talked about it a year ago. Looked like a disaster

885
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: at points into a rotation that you know you're not

886
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: losing sleepover, you feel pretty decent about it. Chris Paddock

887
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: should be back at some point at the end of

888
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: the year. Yeah. I like Ober as a depth arm.

889
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 4: I think that's a really reliable guy that could spot

890
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: start and Woods Richardson should be a fine option. Josh

891
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: Winder also an intriguing arm. They've they've got some guys

892
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: So and Willis varn Spots started and looked pretty good

893
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 4: last year, so they've got a ton of depth there.

894
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: I think at the very least they're gonna be a

895
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 4: you know, fifteenth in Baseball e and just chill there,

896
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: but I think they'll be better than that. And then

897
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: the bullpen's an interesting conversation because you know, it was

898
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 4: kind of just spearheaded by John Duran being one of

899
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: the best relievers in baseball, but they go get Ajorgelo

900
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 4: pet So I know wasn't good for them, but I

901
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: still think it's gonna be good. He was great with Baltimore.

902
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 4: And then I saw some video I saw. I think

903
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: Griffin Jacks recently was a social media throwing gash. So

904
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: in on that, Yeah, I'm in on that as a reliever,

905
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: not in on that as a starter. You see day

906
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: starter for the Pirates? Yes, do you think that was

907
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: because of the videos? It has to be. It has

908
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: to be really exciting. Though. Bullpen's kind of good, Like

909
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: relatively speaking, I don't think it's bad.

910
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: So the way that Peter and I put it earlier

911
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: this week when we were talking top ten bullpens was

912
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: it is as top heavy as bullpen as you're gonna

913
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: find with Lopez and Duran, like that is a great

914
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: eighth and ninth inning thing to have, and any of

915
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: these starters can go seven innings on any given night,

916
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: which is great. Like if you go Tyler Maley to

917
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 3: Duran to Lopez or to Lopez to Duran, you feel

918
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: excellent about that And you do feel good about Jackson.

919
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: I like, I think I'm a little bit higher on

920
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: Amelio Pagan than than Peter was. But again, like we

921
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: we had that come to Jesus moment where were like

922
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: we just spent five minutes talking about Amelio Pagan, Like

923
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 3: what are we doing on this podcast?

924
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

925
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I think that like theol Bar, Jack's Pagan

926
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 4: al Kala, like they can give you decent outings, but

927
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 4: I also feel like they're just a whole bunch of

928
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: Jorge Ruiz's Jose Ruiz, I'm sorry. Yeah. And so one

929
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: other name to watch Yanni Enriquez Irani and Riquez. You

930
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 4: just saw her gas fuzz and it's it's got crazy movement.

931
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: Apparently he's dealing with posterior elbow soreness. Who isn't. But

932
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 4: that's another arm I've that's one that posterior.

933
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: Elbows and anterior inside, anterior front, posterior back.

934
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: I have no idea, let's get a doc one, but

935
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: I will say, like, that's a guy that I've specifically

936
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: gotten exton and they's just been like this guy's disgusting,

937
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: like from players that have faced him. Cool. So that's

938
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: one that like watch out for he's twenty two and

939
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: was striking guys out and bunches at times in Triple A.

940
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: So this team. I like the Twins this year, I

941
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 4: really do. I think they're gonna find a way. They're

942
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: just so deep, they have so many options, they have

943
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: trade capital, even though their system is not the best,

944
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: because of all the depth that they have, I think

945
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: they're in a really really good spot going into the season.

946
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: In a week division, yeah, one hundred percent. All right,

947
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: let's go to the Chicago White Sox. Yes, Mine, grond

948
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: Dog gonna be the catcher. Sebbi Zavala as of right

949
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: now is the backup catcher, although I do think that

950
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 3: they have some solid options waiting in the minor leagues,

951
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: notably Carlos Perez.

952
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: Who just does not strike out, Andrew Vaughan at first.

953
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: Finally, thank god, Elvis Andrews will be the second baseman

954
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: after coming back in a one year deal. Tim Anderson

955
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: at short who's had a great BBC. Joan Muncata, who's

956
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: trying to find it at third outfield left to right

957
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: is going to be the new seventy five million dollar man.

958
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 4: Andrew benin tende, Luis Robert in.

959
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: Center, Luis Robert Junior, I should say, and then it

960
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: looks like probably Oscar Colas.

961
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: It's either gonna be co Loss or Sheets. Anything to get.

962
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: Alloy Jimenez under the dhpot. Do not stand in a

963
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: corner Iloi Himenez. But yeah, rightfield will either be co

964
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: Los or Sheets. Jake Berger's had a nice spring. I

965
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: think he's going to be on the bench on opening day.

966
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 3: Larry Garcia is an option. Victor Reyes is another option.

967
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 3: The bench is not good. The lineup we can still

968
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: dream on, I think, and like, yes, that's the demise

969
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: of White Sox fans dreaming on this White Sox lineup,

970
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: hoping that they stay healthy. If they do stay healthy,

971
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: this is one of the better lineups in the American League.

972
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: This is gotta be the last year we tried this ship. Yeah, yeah,

973
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: this is the last year we tried this. You had

974
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 4: a World Series ticket on them in twenty one. Yeah, yeah,

975
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: I mean, this is gotta be the last year we

976
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: tried I think so, but I will say so. I

977
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: was pro let Colas marinate and triple A. Right he

978
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 4: played seven games in Triple A last year. Yeah, that said,

979
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, usually I'm not looking too

980
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: much at spring training. In his case, you got to

981
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: look at what he's doing in spring training because he's

982
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: not chasing. No, he's winning a job. He's not chasing,

983
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: he's not striking out, and he's driving the baseball coos

984
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 4: in the minor leagues last year, which by the way,

985
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: he lit on fire was I'm getting my a swing

986
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: off when it's two and zero in the count. I'm

987
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 4: getting my a swing off when it's zero to two

988
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: in the count. He didn't give a shit in that

989
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: in that respect, which why would you you're hitting three

990
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: hundred and crushing home runs. But it led to not

991
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: a lot of walks, and it led to high chase rates,

992
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: which you know are going to raise some red flags.

993
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: But now we see him trying to win a job,

994
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 4: and I see a different hitter. I see a more

995
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 4: calculated hitter. I see a guy that's trying to prove

996
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: that he is a big league beat. So I ask you,

997
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: do you think that's just an increased level of give

998
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 4: a shit from him? I think it's it's more of

999
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 4: I have to be more calculated to have success because

1000
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: in the miners, dude, this guy hit three seventy against fastballs. Yeah,

1001
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: he probably felt like he could hit whatever. He hit

1002
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 4: three sixty against lefties, it didn't matter. Basically, the only

1003
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: thing that was given him trouble was the curveball, and

1004
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 4: nobody in the minors a spot in that. So he

1005
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: was aggressive. He swung at every fastball he saw and

1006
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: he had success with it. That said, he's not gonna

1007
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: be able to have that success at the big league level,

1008
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 4: and I think he realized that he's byably smarter guy.

1009
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: Then maybe people are giving him credit for because clearly

1010
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: he figured that out. So my thing with Colos is

1011
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: the upside is so much more immense than sheets. For

1012
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: this season and beyond that, if Colos is crushing fastballs

1013
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: and crushing hangars, he's gonna be a better defender out there.

1014
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: You might as well try it because this is a

1015
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: White Sox team that has to be competitive this year.

1016
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 4: And with what Colos just showed us in spring training,

1017
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: I think he had to do this. He had to

1018
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: be near perfect for me to feel this way, and

1019
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 4: he's been near perfect. I'm in on Colos in right field.

1020
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna give you a better defense. I

1021
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: think he's got way more offensive upside. And I think

1022
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: the White Sox need to. I mean this, this lineup

1023
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: has been a perpetual gamble. Lean all into the gamble.

1024
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: Go a upside. Colas could hit you thirty home runs

1025
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 4: this year if he works out. You said, this is

1026
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: the last year that we do this, Like, why not

1027
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: put your best foot forward? Yeah, the last year that

1028
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: we do this.

1029
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: And if we've learned anything from the Gavin Sheets experience

1030
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: White Sox fans, it's that.

1031
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: That is probably not the best foot forward. So Colas

1032
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: being the best foot forward is the way to do it.

1033
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 4: Starting rotation. Dylan c second in AlSi Young voting he

1034
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 4: will be the ace. Lance Lynn looked really good in

1035
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: the World Baseball Classic. He will be the two.

1036
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: Michael Kopek looked great in his first spring training outing.

1037
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: He went three perfect including touching ninety eight with his heater.

1038
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: Lucas Giolito, I.

1039
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 4: Do he's loaded. He is a loaded thing.

1040
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 3: And then Mike Clevenger is also just a very loaded conversation.

1041
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: Davis Martin is the six. I love Davis Martin as

1042
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: a six. I love Davis Martin is good. I love

1043
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 3: the Charlotte to O'Hare flight, being nicknamed the Davis Martin

1044
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: flight for this year. Everybody's got that flight, Like Danny Mendick,

1045
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: that was his flight for two years and now it's

1046
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: Davis Martin's. He's gonna start every other game in Chicago,

1047
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: every other game in Charlotte. I wish that Clevenger was

1048
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: not on this roster and Martin was just the five

1049
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: and we figured out at the deadline. But Clevenger's on

1050
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: the roster. He's gonna pitch every fifth day. Gotta be

1051
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: okay with the White Sox fans. Yeah, Cese Lynn, Copec

1052
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 3: gi Aledo can be a lot.

1053
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: Worse than that. It's not bad, it's really I think

1054
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 4: a lot of it is on what you're gonna get

1055
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 4: from Copec because at ninety eight Copec that we talked

1056
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: about recently, and then Lance Lynn. I thought he woked

1057
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: spectacular in that WBC game. Yes it's a WBC game,

1058
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 4: and yes he was pitching against what was it Canada?

1059
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: Was it was it Canada? Yeah, it was Canada. It Wasnada.

1060
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 4: But his fastball was sitting ninety three, which is up

1061
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 4: from his average from last season, and you know you're

1062
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 4: getting strikes from so I mean, Lynde only needs to

1063
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: be a three or four. I think you know Cees

1064
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 4: is going to be one of the best pitchers in baseball.

1065
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 4: I think that's very clear. Yes, I think even Copeck

1066
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: I feel good about at least being adiation guy. Gilito.

1067
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 4: Is he gonna get blasted? Dude, I don't I haven't

1068
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 4: liked and Clevenger might get blasted. I hope blasted. Yeah.

1069
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: I mean, gi Alito, here's the thing, man, He's gonna

1070
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: turn twenty nine this year.

1071
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: Last year he was a four to nine e er

1072
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: in one hundred and sixty one innings. He was a

1073
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: three to five the year before that, and even then

1074
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: the three five felt like it was better than what

1075
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 3: you watched last year was brutal. That was a terrible

1076
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: experience watching gi Alito throw, and there were days where

1077
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: it was T ball.

1078
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 4: I pray that there are no longer the T ball days, Gilito.

1079
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: But the thing is, the fastball is not very good.

1080
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: If he leaves the change up middle middle as often

1081
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 4: as he does, and the fastball is still this bad,

1082
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: and you don't really have a good secondary offering in

1083
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 4: a breaking pitch.

1084
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: I think that there's a chance that some outings turned

1085
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: into t balls gotta be perfect. He's got to be perfect,

1086
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: and he has not been perfect. And this was a

1087
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: guy that like near the top of the walk leader

1088
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: boards in minor league baseball when he was coming up. Yes,

1089
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: he had that prospect pedigree, but like he always didn't

1090
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: really know how to throw strikes.

1091
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: But this stuff was always kind of but the stuff

1092
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 4: was always there. The shoulder. I feel like the shoulder's

1093
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: just not quite been right for him right, So now

1094
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: like the stuff isn't what it once was, and you're

1095
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: asking you guy to be perfect when he came up,

1096
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: not having to be perfect at any point, Like you're

1097
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: just asking him to be an entirely different pitcher than

1098
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: one that he was four years ago. So who's the

1099
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: two here? I think Lend's the two. So here's the

1100
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 4: thing is, I'm worried that, you know, Clevenger or Coopek

1101
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 4: or Giolito will be hurt or struggle. That means Davis

1102
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 4: Martin's plugging in. And yeah, but then who else we have?

1103
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: Who do you have beyond Davis guest? A you so

1104
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: like that, I'd like to see one more arm in

1105
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 4: the fold here. I know people like Sean Burke, although

1106
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 4: I know nothing about that bird. Burke is actually solid.

1107
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: Burke is solid. And then the bullpen, though, the thing

1108
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: is is even without William Hendrix, who I still think

1109
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 4: will this year again, that's just really hard to predict.

1110
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: But I just believe Liam Hendrix is gonna fill his

1111
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 4: way to the mound. I mean me too. And Crochet

1112
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: looks like he'll be back by the All Star break,

1113
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 4: and I hope this starting pitcher experience is over with Crochet,

1114
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: Like that guy's a bull now he's a bullpen arm.

1115
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: But but if Crochet and Hendrix are in this bullpen,

1116
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 4: one of the best bullpens in baseball. It's really good.

1117
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 4: And I love Nick Avila their rule five pick. Yeah,

1118
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 4: his stuff is crazy, it's nasty. If he can relatively

1119
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: command it, he's gonna be a problem. So bullpen hedges

1120
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: some of the rotation concern, and the rotation has upside.

1121
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: If these guys can reach their potential and and kind

1122
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 4: of turn back the clock a little bit, it's a

1123
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: good team. It's just a lot of volatility.

1124
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: I think the lineup. The lineup dictates how far this

1125
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: team goes. Like if Luis Roberts on the field, if

1126
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: your Loy Hie Metez is on the field. If Tim

1127
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: Anderson is on the field, this team can be really good.

1128
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: You think they can piece the rotation together enough. I

1129
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: think so because I think the offense can be that good.

1130
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 3: Right Like Tim Anderson, I think since the start of

1131
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty or maybe twenty nineteen, leads Major League Baseball

1132
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: in batting average, Like he is the best batting average

1133
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: guy in base totally. So I think that Tim is

1134
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: as good a leadoff guy as you can possibly find.

1135
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: I think Luis Robert, like everybody knows the conversation around

1136
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: Luis Robert. I think Eloi Humanez is the one that

1137
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: goes under the radar because if this guy does play

1138
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty games as a DH forty news he.

1139
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: Had one hundred and forty four WRC plus last year. Yeah,

1140
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: like he is forty to forty five homers and he

1141
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 4: plays one hundred and fifty games. And then the bullpen

1142
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 4: of gravemen great last year, Bummer Strong, Joe j Lawson, Grumble,

1143
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: Joe Kelly's a talented arm. Ronaldo Lopez is really settled

1144
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: in as a reliever after you know, kind of being

1145
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 4: that field starter. Deekman, the big, big acquisition at the

1146
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: deadline last year for reasons. Still, he's still a good lefty. Yeah,

1147
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 4: and then you got the you got the Rule five

1148
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 4: pick in Avila, and then of course Jose Rouis and

1149
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 4: Jimmy Lambert another good just kind of depth clean up

1150
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: duty arms. So yeah, if you we add Crochet and

1151
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 4: Hendricks into that bullpen's it's nasty and they can shorten

1152
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 4: up those mediocre Clevenger and Giulido starts to four or

1153
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: five innings and take over from there. I just hope

1154
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 4: they push their chips in and move for a four

1155
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: at some point before the deadline. I agree. I think

1156
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: if they're competitive, they need to do that.

1157
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 3: They need to they need more starting pitching, and I

1158
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: hope that they do it. Let's wrap with the Cleveland Guardians.

1159
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: Mike Zanino going to be the opening day catcher. It is,

1160
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: I guess, a battle between Bo Naylor and Zach Collins.

1161
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: I don't think Zach Collins is good at all. It

1162
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 3: should be Naylor, although they may just want to slap

1163
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: Naylor in triple for a little bit before like getting

1164
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: him up to take it bats away from Zunino. I

1165
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: don't think that Naylor breaks camp if he's just going

1166
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: to be the bench catcher.

1167
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 4: No, I think they want him playing every day. Yeah, right,

1168
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: they want him catching at least as much as possible,

1169
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 4: and they want him hitting every day. So he wouldn't

1170
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 4: be playing in the WBC. I think if he was

1171
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: a sure thing to break camp, I expect him to

1172
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: start in the minor league. And that's fine. Naylor's still

1173
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: can work on some things, kind of some defensive stuff. Yeah,

1174
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: and I think you know, Tho's are legit scenario where Zanino, like,

1175
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 4: if he's really struggling bow Naylor putting up numbers in

1176
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: Triple A, they might just relegate Zanino to the triple

1177
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 4: A role, you know, or excuse me, to the backup role. Yeah,

1178
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: I think they might just the backup role, is what

1179
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 4: I meant to say, and call help Bo Naylor from

1180
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 4: Triple A. Yes, So like that's that could easily be

1181
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: the flip flop here. And and honestly, Zanino probably a

1182
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 4: better option than Hedges because he's gonna give you just

1183
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 4: as good a defense and he's gonna hit better. Even

1184
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: though both these guys swing and miss, he's gonna hit

1185
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: better than Hedges, the worst hitter in Major League baseball.

1186
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 4: He's gonna hit forty points better and he's a two

1187
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: hundred hit. Yeh, that's incorrect.

1188
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: All you gotta know about Austin Hedges, who will probably

1189
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 3: start behind the plate for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

1190
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 4: But Josh Naylor will be at first.

1191
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: You're gonna have Andre Semenez, six win player a year

1192
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: ago at second.

1193
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 4: I'm Edrisario.

1194
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: It's short like that feels like the guy that the

1195
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: short thing for them as the everyday shortstop. And then

1196
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: you've got Jose Ramirez, one of the best players in

1197
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: baseball at third. Outfield left to right will like tbe Kwan,

1198
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 3: Miles Straw and Oscar Gonzales with Josh Bell serving as

1199
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: the DH.

1200
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: I just I like this lineup.

1201
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: And then you've got Gabrielle, Arius Tyler Freeman, Will Brennan

1202
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: waiting on the bench with however many guys that are

1203
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: in Triple A knocking on the door bat wise, like

1204
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: they're just so deep. I don't know how star studded

1205
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: they are outside of Jay ram and Jimenez, but I

1206
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: mean this team like got to the postseason.

1207
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 4: I think this is a postseason lineup again. Well, so

1208
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: if you put Will Brennan in centerfield, which you know,

1209
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: I hope they put tune Straw and Brennan. I don't

1210
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 4: know how they're gonna how they're gonna impress.

1211
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: I hope.

1212
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: So Brennan's a lefties, Straw's alrighty, simple as that. Yeah,

1213
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: and Straw is an elite defender. But that's it, right,

1214
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: But so let's say you have Brennan in centerfield. Just

1215
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: for the sake of this point I want to make,

1216
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: there's a legit scenario where eight of your nine hitters

1217
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 4: have a WRC plus above one hundred. Right, eight of

1218
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 4: your nine hitters are above above league g average hitters.

1219
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 4: And honestly, Zannino's had seasons where he's been a one

1220
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: hundred WRC. But I don't think you will be. But

1221
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: my point being is, you know, maybe only one or

1222
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: two guys are above a one thirty, which would be

1223
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 4: you know, Jay Ram and then you know one of

1224
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 4: the other guys that maybe steps up a Jimenez, a Bell, whatever.

1225
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: But this entire lineup is going to be above average,

1226
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 4: and they're going to grind out at bats. Yeah, they

1227
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: are going to wear you down. And that's what they

1228
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: did last year. But now they added a little bit

1229
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 4: more thump with Josh Bell. Now some of their prospects

1230
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 4: are more ready like a Will Brennan. I love the

1231
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 4: bench options of Gabriel Arius and Tyler Freeman. You know,

1232
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: Freeman was always an overrated prospect in my eyes, but

1233
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: he's a good bat to ball guy that can play

1234
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 4: all over the infield. Just never Arius, I still think

1235
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: can be a good player, but at the very least

1236
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 4: great defender with good speed and can run into baseballs,

1237
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 4: and he can play almost every position on the diamond

1238
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: at a high level. Those are two guys you love

1239
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 4: to have on your bench.

1240
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: Arius is the guy that doesn't fit the guardian mold

1241
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: a lot like Valera and a little bit like Young.

1242
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 4: Can't see Noel right now, but I'd say.

1243
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: Valera and Arius or the two best examples of this

1244
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: in that you know they like ba to ball, maybe

1245
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: sacrifice some power for from bat to ball. These two

1246
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: guys are yes, swing and miss, but the ball is

1247
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: going to go really yeah, And.

1248
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: When you're gonna not fit the mold, it always helps

1249
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 4: when you can play all over the diamonds. So yes,

1250
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 4: I mean this lineup top to bottom is really solid,

1251
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: and I think it's only going to be better because

1252
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: I think Jay Ram is going to be better than

1253
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: he was last year. Adding Josh Bell to this lineup

1254
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 4: was exactly what they needed. They needed a little bit

1255
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 4: more thump. They add that thump. And I think Oscar Gonzalez,

1256
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 4: now for a full season, for a full season, he's

1257
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: going to be a dude. I The only question I

1258
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: have for them is are two questions. When do we

1259
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: see Bonaylor but Mike Sanino I think makes me a

1260
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: little bit more patient because I think that's a fine catcher,

1261
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: a lot of it. And how do you feel about

1262
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 4: Miles Strawn centerfield? Every day? I know how good he

1263
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 4: is defensively, and I know what that means to the Guardians,

1264
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: but I want to see a little bit more offense,

1265
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 4: especially when this isn't going to be the most powerful

1266
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: team in the world. Yeah, and I think Will Brennan's

1267
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: a great option in center. Brennan is a good defender.

1268
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 3: He's not Straw, but he's a good defender in the center,

1269
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: and he hits exponentially more.

1270
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: All right. One and two in the rotation is Bieber

1271
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 4: and Mackenzie. No notes, cal Quantrell is the three.

1272
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: He's going to be the three, Like I obviously cal

1273
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: Quantrill is one of the most talked about people in

1274
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 3: the show, so we don't need.

1275
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Speaker 4: To get into him four and five. I pitched this

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Speaker 4: to Peter.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather have Savalian Polisak as your four and five?

1278
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: Or I threw these names into a hat and you

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00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: pick any of them to go on Day four or

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: Day five. Xavion Curry, counter Pilkington, Joey Kim Tillo, Logan Allen, Peyton, Battenfield.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm. I like Batonfield, but I know he did not

1282
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: quite do what I was hoping he would do last year.

1283
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: He's not a strikeout guy. He's a pitch to contact,

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 4: get get people out early guy. I'd probably it's tough

1285
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: because you take for granted just being able to pitch

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01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: relatively competitively at the big league level. Right, So Zaman

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01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 4: Curry could come up and get and get shouted. Yes,

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01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 4: So I would say I'd probably rather have Savallyan Poleae Sack.

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Speaker 4: But I am very ready for Logan Allen to plug

1290
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Speaker 4: into that rotation. I will say I'm a Logan out.

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Speaker 4: I know he got shelled in triple I like Logan

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01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 4: Allen a lot. I will probably take Logan Allen over

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01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 4: over a Zach Polie Sack or Savally whichever one of

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01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: them is not pitching as well. I'd rather have Logan

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Speaker 4: Allen over one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: So I want to see three guys get every opportunity

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01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: to get up to the major league level that they

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Speaker 3: possibly can get, and that's Gavin Williams, Tanner Biby, who

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Speaker 3: I know, both those guys are top one hundred guys, yes,

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01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: and Tanner Burns, who.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of, twenty four year old.

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01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: So if those three guys are getting opportunities in triple

1303
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: and any of the three succeed, I think you're ready

1304
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: to start taking away Savali and Polae Sack starts. So yes,

1305
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: the opening day starting rotation will have Sabalian police Sack.

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: I think once we get to the trade deadline, they're

1307
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: not going to feel like that's a weakness that they

1308
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: need to go attack. I think that Gavin Williams will

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01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: be up, and I think that one of Biby or

1310
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 3: Burns or hell maybe xavieron curry.

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01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: Byby so polished, I think he could force his way.

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Speaker 4: They're not going outside. I agree, and I still again

1313
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: Logan Allen is a polished arm like he he is

1314
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: a pitch ability left he command. We've got away at

1315
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 4: points that that was it, but like that he's always

1316
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 4: had it. I think it'll come back, and I think

1317
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 4: he's going to be a solid back end of the rooms.

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01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 4: They've got so many options, so many irons in the

1319
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 4: fire that they will fill out four five. I guarantee

1320
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 4: they ship one of Savali or Police sack out once

1321
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 4: a Gavin Williams, once all those aforementioned names start to

1322
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 4: show that they're pretty much ready to go, Like Gavin

1323
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 4: could easily start, and Triple probably will start, and Double

1324
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: Bibby probably start Double with a quick bump to triple.

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 4: Logan Allen's starting in triple, Curry's starting in triple. Like

1326
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: all these guys are knocking on the door. Whoever really

1327
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: shows up and really impresses could end up being the

1328
01:01:58,960 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 4: guy that takes over.

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Speaker 3: What everybody wants to hear. Cal Quantrill is the X

1330
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: factor in this starting rotation. If he's good, the Guardians

1331
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: win the division. If he's not good, the White Sox

1332
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: win it. If he's average, it's a toss up bullpen.

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Speaker 3: Not many questions about this. This is one of the

1334
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: best bullpens in baseball plus a Karen Zack, Trevor Stephen,

1335
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: Nick Sandlin, and Yel De La Santos, Eli Morgan. You've

1336
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 3: got Sam Henches dealing with shoulder inflammation right now and

1337
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: Cody Morris dealing with discomfort in his lat If those

1338
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 3: guys are back, I mean, this is a bullpen where

1339
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: you feel comfortable turning to any of them at any

1340
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: given moment.

1341
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Speaker 4: Cody Moore is disgusting. He's gross. So that's a guy

1342
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 4: that I pushed pretty high up in the Guardians ranking

1343
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 4: because it's been injuries for him. Yeah, Like it's availability.

1344
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 4: When he's on the field, he's amazing. His fastball is

1345
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: an easy seventy grade fastball, and I remember writing his

1346
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: up it was grossing and the change up is disgusting.

1347
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 4: Carl Ball is just like he's got crazy stuff. He's

1348
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 4: got a starter's arsenal, but not a starter's durability. If

1349
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 4: he's healthy, that bullpen, I think literally becomes like every

1350
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 4: guy in that bullpen could close games like that.

1351
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: That that crazy one percent all right, rapid fire one

1352
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: through five in the division go predicted order of finish.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough one. I'm gonna say Guardians, Twins, White Sox, Tigers, Royals.

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01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna say Guardians, White Socks, Twins, Royals, Tigers.

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01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I figure that was gonna be. Yet you hate

1356
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: the Tigers. I'm just like, I don't know, there's something

1357
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 4: about like an empty night on June tenth at k

1358
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: America and it's a Tuesday, and like it's just kind

1359
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: of sad, and yeah, torqu sitting and there's just I

1360
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't think it's like a Kaufman bias

1361
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: or anything like that, but I just think it's an

1362
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: exciting lineup and even if the Tigers like put out

1363
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 4: some prospects, like it's nowhere near the level of fun

1364
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 4: that Kansas City, that's fair. And I think Minnie Pascontino

1365
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 4: is gonna be one of the best offensive forces in

1366
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 4: baseball exactly. Man.

1367
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, we differ a little bit, but every link

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01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: need is in the show notes again, tons and tons

1369
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: of in person stuff for the World Baseball Classic and

1370
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 3: just shooting the shit at in Miami because you know what,

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01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 3: we're all together.

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01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: This is a rare opportunity. Let's capitalize. So we will

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Speaker 4: talk to you guys. It's wor