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<v Speaker 1>we had some basketball this morning. We know the United

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<v Speaker 1>States will play for the gold medal and the United

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<v Speaker 1>States was waiting to see if it would be France

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<v Speaker 1>or Luca Slovenia, and it came down to the last

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<v Speaker 1>possession and Luca did not take the shot. He passed

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<v Speaker 1>it to a teammate. Teammate had a shot blocked by

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Batoum. So France will play the United States for

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<v Speaker 1>the gold medal. And sometimes when you root for a

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<v Speaker 1>team or an individual, it feels like you're being an American,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're you're not rooting for Team USA, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not anti USA. Sometimes you're pro underdog, that's it. And

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<v Speaker 1>Slovenia is a country of two million size of Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they advanced to the gold medal game, who

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<v Speaker 1>would you be rooting for? Now? I would root for

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<v Speaker 1>the story, which would be Luca going against Team USA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Butler when Butler faced Duke, and probably a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people said, hey, I'm going to root for Butler.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a better story, or you might not like Duke.

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<v Speaker 1>With Team USA, there's nobody there that you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody's polarizing. And I still love seeing Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant out there. I think it's remarkable that he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to play for Team USA. It's not an exciting team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on a highlight driven team. I mean, Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>just keeps, you know, pounding you with the rock. But

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Holliday probably dunked the last time I did. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Dame Lillard, But you know, this feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it's Kevin Durant's team. But if you said Slovenia was

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<v Speaker 1>playing Team USA, I would be rooting for Slovenia. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a better story. It's Luca going for a gold medal

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<v Speaker 1>against Team USA. That didn't make me anti American, just

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<v Speaker 1>makes me pro underdog. That's what we like about the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>You love the story that you go way man, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy just won, or that team just won, that country

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<v Speaker 1>just one. I mean you're looking for these stories. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of what we have with the Olympics. But

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<v Speaker 1>Team USA versus France, I'm not that interested in this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, hey, the curiosity of oh that's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who first started the sports pandemic, Rudy Gobert, Nicholas Batum,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I mean Tony Parker's not playing for France.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that Taco fall is on the French

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<v Speaker 1>team who knew I guess that's him. Certainly looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a really really tall guy. Yes, big Lovin. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>share my thoughts on why the US doesn't blow out

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<v Speaker 1>these teams? Because the US I look at the box

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<v Speaker 1>score from last night, like they have ten guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are rotation playing lots of minutes, like where these other

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<v Speaker 1>teams have the six seven guys and they know who

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<v Speaker 1>has the ball and they know who's going for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So does that give you an advantage like to not

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<v Speaker 1>have that much talent in a way? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have talent, but if you have too

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<v Speaker 1>much talent in you don't know who the man is,

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<v Speaker 1>except thankfully to rans emerge as the man, then you

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<v Speaker 1>can be confused. I think I would love to have

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<v Speaker 1>that luxury because Luca was triple team for most of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and he might have heard his wrist in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half he had a triple double. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he might have had more assist than points, maybe seventeen assists.

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<v Speaker 1>But it came down to they weren't going to let

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<v Speaker 1>Luca beat him, and that was the proper defensive strategy there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul I got an update the big guy in France

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<v Speaker 1>is Mustapha Fall, who's French. Obviously seven two tackle Fall

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's from the Sudan and is seven six.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, he looked similar, you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>see him. But France moves on and we'll face the

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<v Speaker 1>United States for the gold medal. Mcleven, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>poll question today. I want to get into some baseball

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<v Speaker 1>last night with Max Scherzer the Dodgers in the Astros.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this for the USA France game. Would you rather

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<v Speaker 1>win a now biter, a close game or would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather see a blowout win as an American fan? Which

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<v Speaker 1>which would be a more enjoyable experience. We've been down

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<v Speaker 1>the road of blowing out countries. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>something competitive. I mean too, I'd love to see something

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<v Speaker 1>come down. I mean, that was very excited, very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all standing around watching on TV, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the final possessions here with Slovenia against France. So if

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<v Speaker 1>we have that, that'd be great. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>tune into a game and you know, we're up by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and then you go, okay, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>France somehow stays competitive, you know that then at least

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<v Speaker 1>be fun to watch, But I'm just not excited about

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<v Speaker 1>watching France versus Team USA. Not a storyline there for me.

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<v Speaker 1>If Team USA wins, we expect it. If France wins,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations Slovenia. That's interesting because you really felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was one guy versus a team today. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have Gore and droggage for Slovenia today. But Luca

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<v Speaker 1>played well, he just didn't play well enough. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>what else do you have? Poll question was Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is for my Dodger fan friends out there. Are the

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers a little less impressive because they're the new Yankees

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<v Speaker 1>and collecting this dream team? Basically if they wait when

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<v Speaker 1>Max Scherzer is that sort of like, oh, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to win a few more and then

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<v Speaker 1>we get sick of you, because that's what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees. Like, okay, evil Empire. Does us feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little evil Empire because he looks so good last night? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's thirty seven. There are other teams that wanted him.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like, hey, the Dodgers. I mean, the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>had more to give to be able to get Max Scherzer.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the Jihnson Padres did not. But Scherzer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like he's been toiling an anonymity throughout his career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's won the cy Young three times. He's been to

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series twice, once with the Tigers. He won

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<v Speaker 1>the title with the Nationals, and baseball fans know how

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<v Speaker 1>good he is, and he's not afraid of a big stage.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, here you are the defending champ's second

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<v Speaker 1>biggest market in the country, and the expectation levels are

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<v Speaker 1>very high, and rightfully so. And last night he did

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<v Speaker 1>Max Scherzer things. He struck out ten Dodgers got the

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<v Speaker 1>win more importantly, but the highlight for the fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand fans was probably Surezer fanning Jose Al Twove three times.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the Dodgers are in a real battle

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<v Speaker 1>here with the Padres and Giants, but now they're armed

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<v Speaker 1>and dangerous. They don't know when they're getting Trevor Bauer back,

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<v Speaker 1>but Scherzer maybe thirty seven. They don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton Kershaw when he's going to be back. But a

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<v Speaker 1>big stage out West shouldn't be a problem. As Scherzer

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<v Speaker 1>tries to add another successful chapter to what has been

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame career. Here's Scherzer after the win

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Yeah, the fans and night, they were great.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when in the crowd's wing nuts like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you can definitely feed off of it. You know, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Max has got great saying that says that you can

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<v Speaker 1>pitch with emotions which can't be emotional, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for tonight, I felt I was really able to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd was definitely into it um, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you can feed off that and you can really get

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<v Speaker 1>some maternaling from that. And so, uh, to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and pitch well and then to have the fans

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<v Speaker 1>ask for a curtain call for me, Uh, that's I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had that happen, So that that's really a cool momentum,

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<v Speaker 1>something I'll never forget. And never had a curtain call.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think winning the cy Young three times you'd

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<v Speaker 1>get a couple opportunities to go, hey, come on back

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<v Speaker 1>out here, let's give you a roundab applause, Yeah, Pauling,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a pitcher playing Wembley Stadium or something. Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand people in Los Angeles going crazy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been what Detroit, Arizona, Washington. Those places hold about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty plus. What a crowd that was. What other poll

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<v Speaker 1>questions we looking at? Nicklevin, Okay, two NFL questions for

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<v Speaker 1>a night. Hey, are you going to watch a Cowboys Steelers?

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<v Speaker 1>I think bizarrely people will even though it's fourth stringers.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss It can just be the background noise, but

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<v Speaker 1>just having football the ambiance there. That's what I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to now. I want to see Dwayne Haskins play

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<v Speaker 1>for the Steelers, and I'd like to see some of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, you know as Michael Parsons gonna play, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see him ceedee lamb. I also like at

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame game you have Hall of famers

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<v Speaker 1>who get interviewed during the game on the sidelines. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun as well. Okay, here's the question, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the most iconic team in NFL history? We obviously

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<v Speaker 1>have the Cowboys and Steelers tonight with all the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame guys going in. I would put the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>on the list. Did that question make any sense? Who

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<v Speaker 1>is like the most traditionally famous NFL team? Yeah? Seed,

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<v Speaker 1>I would put the Raiders on that list. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah. Yeah, But if you're talking about that,

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about it really started in the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl era. Yeah, because the Cleveland Browns used to be

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<v Speaker 1>the great team in the sixties, and then the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>came along, and then the Packers won the first two

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowls. Plus, if you look at your fandom and

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<v Speaker 1>where it's based, if you're an NFL fan, your dad

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<v Speaker 1>or your grandfather, if they were a Packer fan, then

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<v Speaker 1>your dad or you became a Packer fan. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after that you had the Cowboys, you had the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine Ers, you had the Steelers, Like if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the blue Bloods, it's your fandom is probably based

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<v Speaker 1>off what happened in the late sixties, in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>even the eighties, where you go, hey, I root for

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<v Speaker 1>this team, Why, well, my dad did, or my grandfather did,

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<v Speaker 1>or I started watching when I was younger. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>you develop your fan. If you're not in those cities

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<v Speaker 1>and you find this a lot with the Cowboys and

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers, they're all over the country, but it's based

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<v Speaker 1>off of watching them perform at a high level, watching

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<v Speaker 1>them win Super Bowls. Because somebody who was a Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>Browns fan, it's not the same. You weren't watching a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. The Packers when they played the Raiders and

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<v Speaker 1>played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, like that was

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. And it was Lombardi and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had this threat of AFL NFL, would there be

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<v Speaker 1>a merger? Who had the better league? You know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was really this territorial rights that was at stake there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had the Colts, the Colts against the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest upset we've had, and then the Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs proved that that was no fluke, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>had the merger. But your fandom is probably based off

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<v Speaker 1>what your dad or your grandfather follow. Yeah, Paul, You're

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. It's the first thing you see as a

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<v Speaker 1>little kid. When I was a little kid, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like the Steelers were always in the Super Bowl, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers and Yankees felt like they were always in

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series. Because you compress things, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers were in four Super Bowls in six seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of our six seasons span were not as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing Terry Bradshaw in a Burt Reynolds movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He felt like the face of the NFL or Roger

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<v Speaker 1>Staubach was also the face of the NFL. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything as a kid, though, Yeah, and you got

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<v Speaker 1>caught up in you know what the Cowboys how they

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<v Speaker 1>presented this. You had Tom Landry stoic on the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the hat, nice suit. You had the cowboy cheerleaders,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the stadium. Then you had the Raiders, who

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<v Speaker 1>were the complete opposite the antithesis, like they were not polished,

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<v Speaker 1>they were the bad guys. They were the outlaws. They

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<v Speaker 1>had an owner who sued the NFL. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>you fall in love with this story and they became

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<v Speaker 1>your team at that time, or it was your dad's

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<v Speaker 1>team and you're watching just by proxy, you become a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of that team. But if you're from Pittsburgh, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you love your Steelers or San Francisco or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>does New England fit in there. We don't allow them

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<v Speaker 1>in because they weren't winning back you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies they were the laughing stock. But it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to almost have started in the late sixties

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies to be on that list of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>iconic franchises, even though you know Patriots more successful than

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<v Speaker 1>anybody winning Super Bowls Jean Club. But even in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years when these kids of Patriots fans like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the next generation is going to look back as

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<v Speaker 1>a great team. Well, the Patriots aren't beloved around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing. I mean, that's you know, provincial, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, Packer fans, Steeler fans, Cowboys Raiders, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country. Yeah. That so much of it

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<v Speaker 1>is NFL films, Right, All of these iconic teams that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, we have grainy footage, old footage of

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<v Speaker 1>them to this like triumphant music and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>slow motion and all of that. You don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>that with the Patriots necessarily. Yeah, NFL films really formed

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<v Speaker 1>my viewing patterns, my rooting patterns, the storylines because at

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<v Speaker 1>the time when we were growing up, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>all of the games, but we just absorbed NFL films

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<v Speaker 1>and Howard Cosell on Monday Night football would give you

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes of highlights. That's the only time you would

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<v Speaker 1>see a team or a player. Now you get to

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<v Speaker 1>see whoever you want, whenever you want to see them.

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<v Speaker 1>But back then that the importance of what NFL films

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<v Speaker 1>did do football glamorized it and presented in in a

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<v Speaker 1>way sports had never been presented before. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, your fandom was based off of something

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<v Speaker 1>as small as the NFL films doing a feature on

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<v Speaker 1>your team. Yeah. Pulling another difference is the Patriots dynasty

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<v Speaker 1>is basically Belichick and Brady and they mixed up other

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<v Speaker 1>players over the years. There's a bunch of different wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers and running backs and defenders went and came and went.

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<v Speaker 1>That Steeler team, everyone in the room could name all

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<v Speaker 1>their players off the top of your head because it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a ten year run and they kept everybody

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<v Speaker 1>their defense, their offense. Guys didn't do free agency back then.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on the cusp of free agency, so that

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<v Speaker 1>Steeler team was basically intact for about eight years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we didn't have free agency back then.

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<v Speaker 1>You were drafted by a team and you stayed with

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<v Speaker 1>your team until they cut you. And you had that

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<v Speaker 1>with Green Bay that you knew Bart Starr was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, and you know Jim Taylor and Paul Horning,

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<v Speaker 1>her battery. You had all of those great players who

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<v Speaker 1>was on the Kansas City Chiefs and Hank stram Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the Raiders. You knew that Kenny Stabler, Daryl Lamonica,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Bulitnikoff, like you just had Lyle Alzado, John Madden,

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<v Speaker 1>Al Davis. These were true characters, but you had interchangeable

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<v Speaker 1>parts and then the team stayed relevant. You know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys you had Roger Staubach, and then after that

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<v Speaker 1>you would have Troy aikman U. You know, the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>would have Terry Bradshaw. Then eventually you would have Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Roethlisberger the Packers have. You've gone from Bart Starr to

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<v Speaker 1>Bred Farb to Aaron Rodgers and remained relevant for fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years now. They did have dips, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a Hall of Fame quarterback. There. We'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. We'll talk to Ross Tucker, our good buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>the former NFL lineman Nice the Cowboys Radio network, former

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<v Speaker 1>NFL quarterback, the analyst Babe Laufenberg will join us as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlie Steiner, the voice of the Dodgers on the

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<v Speaker 1>Atmosphere with the Astros in town. Does he agree with

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<v Speaker 1>what Joey Vados said yesterday on this show and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we move on from the astros and stopped booing them.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't happen last night at the Dodger Stadium, seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>what's the poll question you want to go with? I

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<v Speaker 1>started with our one the most iconic NFL football team

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys, Stealers, Packers, and Raiders. Those are our

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<v Speaker 1>four choices. No more are we leaving out anybody? Are

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers iconic? The Bear, the Bears, Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a Bears fan, I would not put them

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<v Speaker 1>on there because even though they started the league, they

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<v Speaker 1>since then they won one Super Bowl. Yeah, but that

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<v Speaker 1>one is the one everybody talks about. Well, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Bears fan, you do you get the feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>they won like three in a row. How about the Giants?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not interesting and the Super Bowl era they're not interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, they beat the Patriots twice. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like, you have to have characters there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have you know, John Madden, All Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have Otis Sistrunk. You need, you need history,

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<v Speaker 1>you need success. You have me and Joe Green, Steeve,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt and Jack Lambert, Terry Bradshaw, Chuck Noll. The Giants

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<v Speaker 1>have Okay, Bill Parcels Giant. Yeah, but really, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be iconic, it has to be during the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl era. Yes, look Lt. Carson Banks. There's some names

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<v Speaker 1>there during the older Giants. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they're iconic. This is when you know your

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<v Speaker 1>iconic when your fan base is across the country, when

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have a home game, your team has a home

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<v Speaker 1>game and there's more fans from Pittsburgh there, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you know your iconic. Ross Tucker Our good buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>the former NFL offensive lineman, host of the Ross Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>Football podcast, and you can check out the Ross Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>Football podcast. Also game analyst for the Eagles in their preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>also does some college football in NFL for CBS in

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<v Speaker 1>Westwood One. Ross joins us. Now, how how would you

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<v Speaker 1>answer that most iconic NFL team in history is? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's probably either the Packers or the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was interesting Dan hearing you guys talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it really is like for all of

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<v Speaker 1>us our age group, it's whoever was featured the most

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<v Speaker 1>on NFL films from the sixties and seventies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that is what's iconic. I can just picture Vince Lombardi,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and on all those videos. Come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>let's tell the Green Bay Powers sweep or the videos

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<v Speaker 1>of like Lynn Swan being in the air for forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight seconds catching passes in Super Bowls. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for any other team to be more iconic than

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<v Speaker 1>the teams that were so revered and featured on those

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<v Speaker 1>NFL films videos from the sixties and seventies. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they had a head start because they were successful

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when we didn't get to watch all

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<v Speaker 1>of the games. Maybe you got to see your team

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<v Speaker 1>featured with Howard Cosell on Monday Night Football with the

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<v Speaker 1>three minute highlights, but I would probably. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a wrong answer if it's the Cowboy, Steelers, Packers

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<v Speaker 1>or Raiders. It just depends on you know, what was

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<v Speaker 1>your fandom growing up and was it based off your

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<v Speaker 1>dad or your grandfather, Because that's usy where it starts.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of that team now and you're

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<v Speaker 1>in your thirties, chances are it was based off of

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<v Speaker 1>who your dad was rooting for. How important is preseason? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to the teams themselves, I think we saw

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<v Speaker 1>last year probably not all that important. To the players

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<v Speaker 1>that are playing tonight, it's everything. I mean. I had

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<v Speaker 1>some guy on Twitter hit me up at Ross Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>NFL and say preseason doesn't mean you know what, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just replied back to him, Dan, you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>ninety man rosters, right, we won't see hardly any starters tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's at least fifty guys playing tonight. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're two time All State, two time All Conference in college,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the best athlete to ever come from their hometown.

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<v Speaker 1>That the two and a half three quarters they play

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<v Speaker 1>tonight it's the most important game of their lives. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about guys fifty to ninety on the roster, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five to ninety on each roster. It's the most

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<v Speaker 1>important game of their life. So if you don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about that, that's fine. That doesn't bother me. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just want the starters, You just want the games

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<v Speaker 1>that count. That's fine. But number one, to those guys

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<v Speaker 1>it means everything. And number two just don't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>you're the biggest fan ever. Like I always laugh when

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, die hard cowboy fan, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest fan ever. But they don't watch the preseason like

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of fans out there. They watch

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<v Speaker 1>every second of the preseason because they care about the

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<v Speaker 1>third string tight end and the O line depth and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to know who the fourth corner will be.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's totally acceptable. If you don't feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>just do me a favorite. Don't call yourself the biggest fan. Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make a roster during preseason if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a borderline player? Two things, Number one is first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it starts by doing something to stand out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ninety guys. Now there's only eighty guys, Dan, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing, But with ninety guys, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 1>one of these bottom of the roster, undrafted guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>must do something unique or different to stand out. And

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<v Speaker 1>mine was taking the aggression to another level, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>having the coaches have to tell me to calm down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one way they love that. You're like, like Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Judge has all the Giants players running and doing push ups.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile the next day he's like, I gotta be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>That really turned me on. I really liked that they

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<v Speaker 1>all act like they don't like fights, Dan, they're all

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<v Speaker 1>full of it. Okay, if you're a football coach, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because at one point you loved football and you played it,

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<v Speaker 1>which means you loved the physical part of it, which

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<v Speaker 1>means you love that you love it. DA mean, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell at least admits it. I love Dan Campbell. Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell is like, oh and that was amazing. Definitely, like

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<v Speaker 1>at least he says it. So Number one, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to stand out in some way, and the number two

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches have to trust you. They have to trust you,

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<v Speaker 1>which means you cannot mess up mentally. Honestly, Dan, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that physically gifted, but I never messed up mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>I always did what the coaches wanted me to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I blocked the right guy the way they wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to block him, and then I tried to kill the

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>guy to the best of my ability. And that's like

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the only reason I made it with Schottenheimer as a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie and then stuck around for a while. But I

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>guess you get cut then if you do mess up

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>something mentally, if you're alignment, I'm guessing yeah, any position, Dan,

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>it is the single biggest reason why guys don't make it.

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I think NFL football is way more complicated or at

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>least detailed then people realize. I can't type. I mean,

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I've seen guys that bench press six hundred pounds. They

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't figure it out. I've seen guys that were

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>way more talented than me. They didn't know who to

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>block when the defense would change their alignment. And honestly,

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>some of the guys, Dan, I actually felt bad for.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>There was a kid I remember, he was really gifted.

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>He spent every second Dan studying the playbook and if

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.719
<v Speaker 1>you would ask him, he would know it. You'd say, well,

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>what happens did they do this? What happens did they

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>do that? But then when he actually got out there,

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Dan and they're flying around, and it happens in a

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>split second. It's a different type of intelligence. And some

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>guys it comes very naturally for and other guys really

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 1>struggle with it. And if you really struggle with the

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>football IQ the FBI, if you will football intelligence, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a really tough time sticking around the NFL

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>as a player. More intriguing team this season the Steelers

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys, they're both pretty intriguing. I'm gonna say

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Steelers because of what happened last year, because of a

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>totally new offensive line, and because of Big Ben. I mean,

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I go on in Pittsburgh radio. I live in central Pennsylvania.

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of people in Pittsburgh, including you

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>know radio guys and fans. They wanted to team to

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>move on for Big Ben, and they wanted to turn

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the page. They thought Big Ben and think that Big

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Ben's washed up. They wanted to see what Mason Rudolph

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>could do in his last year under contract, and or

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>turn the page and get the next guy. I thought

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>they were nuts. I think the Steelers did the right

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>thing giving Ben one last chance, especially when you have

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a roster with Cam Hayward and Minka Fitzpatrick and t J.

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Watt and these guys. I think that those guys and

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Ben have earned the right to make one more run

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>at this thing. I mean, they were eleven and o lash.

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were the best team in the NFL

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>until the Wheels came off. How many legitimate Super Bowl

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>contenders do you think we have this year? Maybe six?

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe suckers. So in the NFC, maybe three, Rampa, Green

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Bay and maybe the Rams. I don't see the nine

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Ers the Seahawks getting there. So in the NFC, I'm

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>saying maybe three, and I think even the Rams are dubious.

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>In the AFC, it's obviously Kansas City. I would say Buffalo, Cleveland,

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Nobody in the AFC South, nobody else, AFC West. I

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>don't think Baltimore is legit. I'm saying six total. I'm

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>saying the six. I just gave you three each in

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>each conference. And I wonder if our expectations a little

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>high on the Rams, because as soon as they got

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford, I said, I don't know what the odds are,

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>but that's my MVP pick. And then all of a

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>sudden I started to see where there are a lot

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of people who thought, oh, the Rams, say could go

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>to the Super Bowl and Matthew Stafford could be the MVP.

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Like Peter King was gushing that Matthew Stafford is gonna

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>throw for six thousand yards. I don't know. Our expectation

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>level a little too high for the Rams. I think

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it is. Look, I think Matthew Stafford is better than

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Jared Golf, but I don't think it's as pronounced everybody

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>else seemed to think. I mean, most of these years,

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:15.479
<v Speaker 1>if you looked at quarterback rankings, Stafford was probably somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>between ten and fifteen, and Golf might have been between

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and twenty. I don't know. I mean, how much

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of a difference is that, dan Is that that a

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>two or three win difference? Is that Super Bowl or not?

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, And by the way, when

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>they get Stafford, they lose John Johnson and Troy Hill.

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Both those guys went to Cleveland. So they lost two

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of the guys that are really good in their secondary.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they gained Stafford, but they lost

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>some other guys, and I'm just fascinated by them. I mean,

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they have no first round picks forever, they have no

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>middle class. They have elite guys and guys making the minimum,

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of working for him. We'll see if

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it works this year. Lut mc club and you're rolling

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>your He's back there at Ross Tucker Well. Stafford was

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>ranked ten to fifteen when he was with the Lions.

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Now these with Sean mcvagh in the Rams, don't you

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>think he'll possibly move up that ranking. I mean he might,

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>That's certainly what they're counting on. I guess I would

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>say about the Sean McVeigh thing always makes me laugh.

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>He's obviously a good coach, right, but you ever notice

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>how for four years every time the Rams scored a

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>bunch of points, it was Sean mcvah. Oh my gosh,

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Sean mc I sound like Paulie doing my impersonation right there.

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Sean mcvah, Oh my gosh. He's the greatest coach of

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>all the best. He's got a great house away when

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>when whenever the Rams stunk, it was or they didn't

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>do anything on offense, Jared Goff stinks. It's all Jared

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Goff's fall. You can't have it both ways, Dan, you can't.

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>You can't. Everything positive can't be McVeigh and everything negative

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>is golf. Like, let's let's split up both of them

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Yeah, but that happens with Kyle Shanahan.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>When that offense is clicking, that's Kyle Shanahan's offense. But

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>when it's not that Jimmy Garoppolo can't play. It's a

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>great point. It's a great point. They both deserve a

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>slice of the success and futility. Pie. I agree. It's

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>great to talk to you. And what do you mention

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>right now? Not enough? Oh, by the way, how about

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>this last friday on the beach? Okay, I did an

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>hour walk on the beach, and every five minutes I

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>did twenty push ups. So I had done one hundred

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and sixty push ups. And then at the end I

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to like rep out, I'm two hundred and fifty

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>six pounds. I did forty two push ups. I did

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>my age in pushups after doing one hundred and sixties.

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't like, I don't I don't max out, but

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that's my new thing until I die. I want to

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>be able to do my age and push ups. Gonna

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>get tough in my seventies, certainly in my eighties, but

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to try to do my age and push ups.

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Who's the strongest guy that you were ever around? Either

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>teammate played against? Well? I was teammates with Larry Allen,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>who was ridiculously strong. I think he benched like seven

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds. But there was a guy. There was a

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>guy Chris Valerio who I played with him Buffalo. He's

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>actually the head coach at Saint Francis, which is an

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>FCS school. Polly probably watches all their games live out

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in Western PA. I saw him. They drafted a kid

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Dan This is a true story. We drafted a kid

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>out of Vanderbilt that bench six hundred pounds, and so

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a discussion on the bills, who's the strongest guy.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>So we go to Valeriol who's like in his eighth year,

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, you know what you gotta do right, Like,

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's like thirty two years old. We're like,

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's like, yeah, I know, I know. He

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>puts four ninety five on the incline but incline bench

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and reps it out for ten, gets off the bench

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and like stairs at the Vanderbilt rookie just like and

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>we were like, yeah, it was awesome. It was meathead, meathead,

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>this at its finest. Uh. And you're the president and

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:20.479
<v Speaker 1>a member, proud member. Yes, of course, I'm surprised we're

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>not doing this on a meat Friday. Every Friday. I

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>see that tweet and I get so jealous. It's great

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. We'll check in with you during

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the season. Ross, Thank you, all right, see you guys.

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah's Ross Tucker, former an NFL offensive lineman and host

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Ross Tucker Football podcast. Nice. Uh. It's like

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Fritzie goes, hey, you want to talk to Ross Tucker,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and I go, yeah, how could you not? Guy? Yes,

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I always feel better when I talked to Ross Tucker. Yes,

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>he almost made you fired up to watch preseason football.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>He's like, that was a good argument. No, I'm gonna

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>watch the game. I'm not gonna watch closely. I'm gonna

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>listen to it. I might not be watching, but it'll

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>be in the background. Yeah, Paul, I actually enjoy the

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>second half of preseason games when you see those players like, oh,

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember him, he was at Florida International. It's like

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>some quarterback you liked a couple of years ago. Get

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>him one last shot. Got our play of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, we'll get to phone calls as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll check in with the Dodgers coming up a little

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 1>bit later on check in with the Cowboys as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back after this and The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. Oh my God, the play of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>God play. This is the play on the day. Check

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<v Speaker 1>this out. Chose the colors for the one two pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>He strikes him out with the chuge out. He's struck

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>him out of three times. Please strikes him out. Strikes

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>him out like a house father side of the road.

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<v Speaker 1>The one suit, please stuck out ten kys it is

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<v Speaker 1>Dodger debut. Heurtesy a Spectrum Sportsnet Max Scherzer strikes out

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<v Speaker 1>ten including jose L two Bay three times. Ten K's

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<v Speaker 1>ties him for the most buy a Dodger in his

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<v Speaker 1>team debut since the franchise moved to LA in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight. The voice of the Dodgers Charlie Steiner. A

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<v Speaker 1>mccleven sent me a list the ten teams with the

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<v Speaker 1>most Hall of Famers in the NFL. Let's see who

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>wants to guess which franchise has the most Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Famers all time? Todd, I'll start with you, Ikey, I

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>thought of Pittsburgh was the first team. McKim tomorrow. All right,

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>mcleven already knows Seaton. This team has thirty five Hall

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>of Famers. Does that sound right? Mcleven. There are a

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>number one on the list. Yeah. I think this is

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>updated at thirty five. Number one, okay, Seaton, O'Connor, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I's gonna say the Steelers, but I'll say the Cowboys now,

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>alrighty Paully, I think it's the Bears due to longevity.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, it is the Bears with thirty five Hall

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>of Famers. You're counting Decatur, I assume, I guess. Yeah.

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean you got guys in you know, the nineteen forties,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty. Yeah, so that's a I was surprised that

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are number nine on this list. I would think

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>they were one, two or three. Yeah. The Eagles are ten,

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are nine, the Raiders seventh, with the Niners.

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>The Steelers are sixth in there, followed by the Giants,

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that's once again longevity. The Packers with thirty two, the

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Rams with thirty two, and I think you have the

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Washington Redskins. Now the Washington football team tied for second

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>on that list with thirty two. Yeah, paully, have the

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys had a guy going to the Hall of Fame

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>who's playing the past two deads? Let's see, Well, there's

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>three obvious ones. You mean the last two decades, like

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the oh you mean yeah, the nineties, I guess was

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>over two decades, right, in the past twenty one years.

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess the couple offensive linement probably well, Troy went

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<v Speaker 1>in in two thousand. Players who have played on the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys since two thousand? Oh since two thousand? Um, anyone going?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mark um Tryan Smith, Terrn Smith never early? Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not, dude. That's interesting that one Hall of Famer

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<v Speaker 1>in two decades. Yeah. Uh, well, see they include terall

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<v Speaker 1>Owens like the Cowboys also include Bill Parcels. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a little misleading. There have the Raiders had well,

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Charles Woodson is going in this weekend. Um, Tim Brown

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>played for the Raiders in oh three, Uh, Rod Woodson,

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<v Speaker 1>they're including him in here. Yeah, so, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>got Jerry Rice on here with the Raiders. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little tricky with you know, these guys played

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Okay, they did, but that's not what they're

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<v Speaker 1>known for. Alex in Pennsylvania, Alex, what's on your mind today? Suh?

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 1>My entire family is originally from Iowa, so my dad

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>is a resident Washington football fan, which made sense in

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the eighties. But being as it's twenty twenty one and

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>they haven't been good very long, I am now a

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<v Speaker 1>neutral NFL fan. I wanted to see if you had

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<v Speaker 1>any idea NFL red zone had anything to do with that,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exposure that maybe you have your fans have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten in the last twenty years or so. Thanks, have

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<v Speaker 1>a great day and suck it back row all right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you? Alex? Yeah, I think that fans now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in fantasy, you're a fan of a player, not

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<v Speaker 1>a team. If you're a gambler, I mean, you can

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>be a fan of a team that helps you win money,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.959
<v Speaker 1>but you're not necessarily good that your fandom can cost

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 1>you money when you go, oh, I got a root

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Steelers. That's not always the best thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do when your fandom gets in front of you, know,

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>your brain, and what you should do when you're gambling. Yeah, Mclub.

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Also we met a free agency got It's not like

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>when we were kids. Were the same guys were on

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<v Speaker 1>your team every year. Bob in New York, Hi Bob,

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me to day? Hey Bob?

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Hi Dan? How are you great? What do you have

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<v Speaker 1>for me? Bob? I just wanted to comment on in

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<v Speaker 1>the poll question iconic teams in the seventies. I keep

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<v Speaker 1>thinking back when I was younger and when Madden used

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<v Speaker 1>to comment on the Hobbs, the Joseph Colby and all

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the fans used to wear pig noses and stuff like that.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>That was pretty iconic to me when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also wanted to comment quickly on Charlie Steiner.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep going back. I love this bright humor. When

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<v Speaker 1>he used to do the Sports Center commercials and he

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>switched his Sports Center anchor role with Billy Shoe to

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<v Speaker 1>be the pool boy in Noble's Place. One of his

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>classic comments was a player with day to day and

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<v Speaker 1>then he said, aren't we all love Charlie Steiner? All right,

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and thank you Bob. Yeah, it was Elizabeth Shoe's brother,

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Shoe, and we had this swap where Andrew Shoe

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<v Speaker 1>joined Sports Center and Charlie joined. Was that nine O

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<v Speaker 1>two one? Oh? And he was the poolboy? Is that what?

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>It was? Melrose Place? And that was a little too

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>quick there, Todd with Melrose Yeah. I never I never

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>watched Melrose Place or nine O two one. Oh. Never, Nope,

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>never did, never did. But yeah, Charlie was the poolboy.

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>He was wearing a bandana. But there was nothing better

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>than getting Charlie Steiner on Sports Center. And all it

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>took was just all humor from somebody or something, and

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Charlie would lose it. He would he'd get to the

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.879
<v Speaker 1>point where he couldn't even be on TV, couldn't broadcast. Yeah. See,

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe once you finished with season two of Outer Banks,

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you can run back through Bev Hills. I have finished

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>season two of Outer Banks. Oh oh you have? Oh? Yes, oh, okay, yes,

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I will say that there is going to be a

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>season three Outer Banks. Cliffhanger, Yes, indeed, yes, an incredible appearance.

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>At the at the end of the final episode season two,

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Dad loses his phone and what happens next. But it's

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting Chad becomes a meme and stuff. There is

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 1>no Chad. It's John outer Banks High. Yeah, it's John

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 1>b all right. Mclovin updates the poll results. This is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The most iconic NFL team, it's the Packers are leading,

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 1>then the Steelers, then the Cowboys, and then the Raiders.

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Packers over the Cowboys and Steelers. There's a lot of

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Packer fans around the country. Yeah, And if you think

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<v Speaker 1>of all the stadiums, So Dallas has a new stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not iconic the way it was when you

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>had the hole in the roofs so God could watch

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. You know. Pittsburgh, that's not an iconic stadium.

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay has an iconic stadium, like Lambo is still iconic,

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you think about it, it's an experience

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<v Speaker 1>when you go there because it's it's Lambo and the

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:41.399
<v Speaker 1>statues and just a history. Yeah, that's a cool place

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<v Speaker 1>to visit. Coming up, we'll check in with the Dodgers

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