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Speaker 1: we had some basketball this morning. We know the United
Speaker 1: States will play for the gold medal and the United
Speaker 1: States was waiting to see if it would be France
Speaker 1: or Luca Slovenia, and it came down to the last
Speaker 1: possession and Luca did not take the shot. He passed
Speaker 1: it to a teammate. Teammate had a shot blocked by
Speaker 1: Nicholas Batoum. So France will play the United States for
Speaker 1: the gold medal. And sometimes when you root for a
Speaker 1: team or an individual, it feels like you're being an American,
Speaker 1: that you're you're not rooting for Team USA, and it's
Speaker 1: not anti USA. Sometimes you're pro underdog, that's it. And
Speaker 1: Slovenia is a country of two million size of Dallas.
Speaker 1: But if they advanced to the gold medal game, who
Speaker 1: would you be rooting for? Now? I would root for
Speaker 1: the story, which would be Luca going against Team USA.
Speaker 1: It's like Butler when Butler faced Duke, and probably a
Speaker 1: lot of people said, hey, I'm going to root for Butler.
Speaker 1: It's a better story, or you might not like Duke.
Speaker 1: With Team USA, there's nobody there that you know. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's polarizing. And I still love seeing Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant out there. I think it's remarkable that he wanted
Speaker 1: to play for Team USA. It's not an exciting team.
Speaker 1: It's on a highlight driven team. I mean, Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: just keeps, you know, pounding you with the rock. But
Speaker 1: Drew Holliday probably dunked the last time I did. You know.
Speaker 1: I love Dame Lillard, But you know, this feels like
Speaker 1: it's Kevin Durant's team. But if you said Slovenia was
Speaker 1: playing Team USA, I would be rooting for Slovenia. That's
Speaker 1: a better story. It's Luca going for a gold medal
Speaker 1: against Team USA. That didn't make me anti American, just
Speaker 1: makes me pro underdog. That's what we like about the Olympics.
Speaker 1: You love the story that you go way man, that
Speaker 1: guy just won, or that team just won, that country
Speaker 1: just one. I mean you're looking for these stories. That's
Speaker 1: the beauty of what we have with the Olympics. But
Speaker 1: Team USA versus France, I'm not that interested in this.
Speaker 1: You know, hey, the curiosity of oh that's the guy
Speaker 1: who first started the sports pandemic, Rudy Gobert, Nicholas Batum,
Speaker 1: all right, I mean Tony Parker's not playing for France.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Taco fall is on the French
Speaker 1: team who knew I guess that's him. Certainly looked like
Speaker 1: a really really tall guy. Yes, big Lovin. Can I
Speaker 1: share my thoughts on why the US doesn't blow out
Speaker 1: these teams? Because the US I look at the box
Speaker 1: score from last night, like they have ten guys who
Speaker 1: are rotation playing lots of minutes, like where these other
Speaker 1: teams have the six seven guys and they know who
Speaker 1: has the ball and they know who's going for it.
Speaker 1: So does that give you an advantage like to not
Speaker 1: have that much talent in a way? Well, I think
Speaker 1: you want to have talent, but if you have too
Speaker 1: much talent in you don't know who the man is,
Speaker 1: except thankfully to rans emerge as the man, then you
Speaker 1: can be confused. I think I would love to have
Speaker 1: that luxury because Luca was triple team for most of
Speaker 1: the game, and he might have heard his wrist in
Speaker 1: the first half he had a triple double. I think
Speaker 1: he might have had more assist than points, maybe seventeen assists.
Speaker 1: But it came down to they weren't going to let
Speaker 1: Luca beat him, and that was the proper defensive strategy there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul I got an update the big guy in France
Speaker 1: is Mustapha Fall, who's French. Obviously seven two tackle Fall
Speaker 1: I think it's from the Sudan and is seven six.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, he looked similar, you know when you
Speaker 1: see him. But France moves on and we'll face the
Speaker 1: United States for the gold medal. Mcleven, you got a
Speaker 1: poll question today. I want to get into some baseball
Speaker 1: last night with Max Scherzer the Dodgers in the Astros.
Speaker 1: Well this for the USA France game. Would you rather
Speaker 1: win a now biter, a close game or would you
Speaker 1: rather see a blowout win as an American fan? Which
Speaker 1: which would be a more enjoyable experience. We've been down
Speaker 1: the road of blowing out countries. I want to see
Speaker 1: something competitive. I mean too, I'd love to see something
Speaker 1: come down. I mean, that was very excited, very exciting.
Speaker 1: We were all standing around watching on TV, you know,
Speaker 1: the final possessions here with Slovenia against France. So if
Speaker 1: we have that, that'd be great. I don't want to
Speaker 1: tune into a game and you know, we're up by
Speaker 1: twenty four and then you go, okay, you know, if
Speaker 1: France somehow stays competitive, you know that then at least
Speaker 1: be fun to watch, But I'm just not excited about
Speaker 1: watching France versus Team USA. Not a storyline there for me.
Speaker 1: If Team USA wins, we expect it. If France wins,
Speaker 1: congratulations Slovenia. That's interesting because you really felt like it
Speaker 1: was one guy versus a team today. You know, you
Speaker 1: didn't have Gore and droggage for Slovenia today. But Luca
Speaker 1: played well, he just didn't play well enough. All right,
Speaker 1: what else do you have? Poll question was Okay, this
Speaker 1: is for my Dodger fan friends out there. Are the
Speaker 1: Dodgers a little less impressive because they're the new Yankees
Speaker 1: and collecting this dream team? Basically if they wait when
Speaker 1: Max Scherzer is that sort of like, oh, okay, I
Speaker 1: think you have to win a few more and then
Speaker 1: we get sick of you, because that's what happened with
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Like, okay, evil Empire. Does us feel a
Speaker 1: little evil Empire because he looks so good last night? Well,
Speaker 1: he's thirty seven. There are other teams that wanted him.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, hey, the Dodgers. I mean, the Dodgers
Speaker 1: had more to give to be able to get Max Scherzer.
Speaker 1: Where the Jihnson Padres did not. But Scherzer, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like he's been toiling an anonymity throughout his career.
Speaker 1: He's won the cy Young three times. He's been to
Speaker 1: the World Series twice, once with the Tigers. He won
Speaker 1: the title with the Nationals, and baseball fans know how
Speaker 1: good he is, and he's not afraid of a big stage.
Speaker 1: And you know, here you are the defending champ's second
Speaker 1: biggest market in the country, and the expectation levels are
Speaker 1: very high, and rightfully so. And last night he did
Speaker 1: Max Scherzer things. He struck out ten Dodgers got the
Speaker 1: win more importantly, but the highlight for the fifty two
Speaker 1: thousand fans was probably Surezer fanning Jose Al Twove three times.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Dodgers are in a real battle
Speaker 1: here with the Padres and Giants, but now they're armed
Speaker 1: and dangerous. They don't know when they're getting Trevor Bauer back,
Speaker 1: but Scherzer maybe thirty seven. They don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw when he's going to be back. But a
Speaker 1: big stage out West shouldn't be a problem. As Scherzer
Speaker 1: tries to add another successful chapter to what has been
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career. Here's Scherzer after the win
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, the fans and night, they were great.
Speaker 1: You know when in the crowd's wing nuts like that,
Speaker 1: you can definitely feed off of it. You know, Mike
Speaker 1: Max has got great saying that says that you can
Speaker 1: pitch with emotions which can't be emotional, and you know,
Speaker 1: for tonight, I felt I was really able to you know,
Speaker 1: the crowd was definitely into it um, and you know
Speaker 1: you can feed off that and you can really get
Speaker 1: some maternaling from that. And so, uh, to go out
Speaker 1: there and pitch well and then to have the fans
Speaker 1: ask for a curtain call for me, Uh, that's I've
Speaker 1: never had that happen, So that that's really a cool momentum,
Speaker 1: something I'll never forget. And never had a curtain call.
Speaker 1: You would think winning the cy Young three times you'd
Speaker 1: get a couple opportunities to go, hey, come on back
Speaker 1: out here, let's give you a roundab applause, Yeah, Pauling,
Speaker 1: it's like a pitcher playing Wembley Stadium or something. Fifty
Speaker 1: two thousand people in Los Angeles going crazy. You know,
Speaker 1: he's been what Detroit, Arizona, Washington. Those places hold about
Speaker 1: thirty plus. What a crowd that was. What other poll
Speaker 1: questions we looking at? Nicklevin, Okay, two NFL questions for
Speaker 1: a night. Hey, are you going to watch a Cowboys Steelers?
Speaker 1: I think bizarrely people will even though it's fourth stringers.
Speaker 1: I miss It can just be the background noise, but
Speaker 1: just having football the ambiance there. That's what I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to now. I want to see Dwayne Haskins play
Speaker 1: for the Steelers, and I'd like to see some of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know as Michael Parsons gonna play, I'd
Speaker 1: like to see him ceedee lamb. I also like at
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game you have Hall of famers
Speaker 1: who get interviewed during the game on the sidelines. That's
Speaker 1: kind of fun as well. Okay, here's the question, what
Speaker 1: is the most iconic team in NFL history? We obviously
Speaker 1: have the Cowboys and Steelers tonight with all the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame guys going in. I would put the Packers
Speaker 1: on the list. Did that question make any sense? Who
Speaker 1: is like the most traditionally famous NFL team? Yeah? Seed,
Speaker 1: I would put the Raiders on that list. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Yeah, But if you're talking about that,
Speaker 1: are you talking about it really started in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl era. Yeah, because the Cleveland Browns used to be
Speaker 1: the great team in the sixties, and then the Packers
Speaker 1: came along, and then the Packers won the first two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Plus, if you look at your fandom and
Speaker 1: where it's based, if you're an NFL fan, your dad
Speaker 1: or your grandfather, if they were a Packer fan, then
Speaker 1: your dad or you became a Packer fan. And then
Speaker 1: after that you had the Cowboys, you had the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers, you had the Steelers, Like if you look
Speaker 1: at the blue Bloods, it's your fandom is probably based
Speaker 1: off what happened in the late sixties, in the seventies,
Speaker 1: even the eighties, where you go, hey, I root for
Speaker 1: this team, Why, well, my dad did, or my grandfather did,
Speaker 1: or I started watching when I was younger. That's where
Speaker 1: you develop your fan. If you're not in those cities
Speaker 1: and you find this a lot with the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Steelers, they're all over the country, but it's based
Speaker 1: off of watching them perform at a high level, watching
Speaker 1: them win Super Bowls. Because somebody who was a Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns fan, it's not the same. You weren't watching a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The Packers when they played the Raiders and
Speaker 1: played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, like that was
Speaker 1: a big deal. And it was Lombardi and you know,
Speaker 1: he had this threat of AFL NFL, would there be
Speaker 1: a merger? Who had the better league? You know, there
Speaker 1: was really this territorial rights that was at stake there.
Speaker 1: And then you had the Colts, the Colts against the Jets,
Speaker 1: the biggest upset we've had, and then the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs proved that that was no fluke, and then we
Speaker 1: had the merger. But your fandom is probably based off
Speaker 1: what your dad or your grandfather follow. Yeah, Paul, You're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. It's the first thing you see as a
Speaker 1: little kid. When I was a little kid, it felt
Speaker 1: like the Steelers were always in the Super Bowl, like
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and Yankees felt like they were always in
Speaker 1: the World Series. Because you compress things, but I think
Speaker 1: the Steelers were in four Super Bowls in six seasons
Speaker 1: of our six seasons span were not as a kid,
Speaker 1: I remember seeing Terry Bradshaw in a Burt Reynolds movie.
Speaker 1: He felt like the face of the NFL or Roger
Speaker 1: Staubach was also the face of the NFL. I didn't
Speaker 1: know anything as a kid, though, Yeah, and you got
Speaker 1: caught up in you know what the Cowboys how they
Speaker 1: presented this. You had Tom Landry stoic on the sidelines
Speaker 1: wearing the hat, nice suit. You had the cowboy cheerleaders,
Speaker 1: you had the stadium. Then you had the Raiders, who
Speaker 1: were the complete opposite the antithesis, like they were not polished,
Speaker 1: they were the bad guys. They were the outlaws. They
Speaker 1: had an owner who sued the NFL. And that's where
Speaker 1: you fall in love with this story and they became
Speaker 1: your team at that time, or it was your dad's
Speaker 1: team and you're watching just by proxy, you become a
Speaker 1: fan of that team. But if you're from Pittsburgh, obviously
Speaker 1: you love your Steelers or San Francisco or you know,
Speaker 1: does New England fit in there. We don't allow them
Speaker 1: in because they weren't winning back you know, in the
Speaker 1: seventies they were the laughing stock. But it feels like
Speaker 1: you have to almost have started in the late sixties
Speaker 1: early seventies to be on that list of you know,
Speaker 1: iconic franchises, even though you know Patriots more successful than
Speaker 1: anybody winning Super Bowls Jean Club. But even in twenty
Speaker 1: years when these kids of Patriots fans like I don't
Speaker 1: think the next generation is going to look back as
Speaker 1: a great team. Well, the Patriots aren't beloved around the country.
Speaker 1: That's another thing. I mean, that's you know, provincial, whereas
Speaker 1: for some reason, Packer fans, Steeler fans, Cowboys Raiders, that's
Speaker 1: all over the country. Yeah. That so much of it
Speaker 1: is NFL films, Right, All of these iconic teams that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, we have grainy footage, old footage of
Speaker 1: them to this like triumphant music and you know that's
Speaker 1: slow motion and all of that. You don't really have
Speaker 1: that with the Patriots necessarily. Yeah, NFL films really formed
Speaker 1: my viewing patterns, my rooting patterns, the storylines because at
Speaker 1: the time when we were growing up, we didn't have
Speaker 1: all of the games, but we just absorbed NFL films
Speaker 1: and Howard Cosell on Monday Night football would give you
Speaker 1: three minutes of highlights. That's the only time you would
Speaker 1: see a team or a player. Now you get to
Speaker 1: see whoever you want, whenever you want to see them.
Speaker 1: But back then that the importance of what NFL films
Speaker 1: did do football glamorized it and presented in in a
Speaker 1: way sports had never been presented before. And I think
Speaker 1: because of that, your fandom was based off of something
Speaker 1: as small as the NFL films doing a feature on
Speaker 1: your team. Yeah. Pulling another difference is the Patriots dynasty
Speaker 1: is basically Belichick and Brady and they mixed up other
Speaker 1: players over the years. There's a bunch of different wide
Speaker 1: receivers and running backs and defenders went and came and went.
Speaker 1: That Steeler team, everyone in the room could name all
Speaker 1: their players off the top of your head because it
Speaker 1: was like a ten year run and they kept everybody
Speaker 1: their defense, their offense. Guys didn't do free agency back then.
Speaker 1: It was on the cusp of free agency, so that
Speaker 1: Steeler team was basically intact for about eight years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't have free agency back then.
Speaker 1: You were drafted by a team and you stayed with
Speaker 1: your team until they cut you. And you had that
Speaker 1: with Green Bay that you knew Bart Starr was going
Speaker 1: to be there, and you know Jim Taylor and Paul Horning,
Speaker 1: her battery. You had all of those great players who
Speaker 1: was on the Kansas City Chiefs and Hank stram Uh.
Speaker 1: You know the Raiders. You knew that Kenny Stabler, Daryl Lamonica,
Speaker 1: Fred Bulitnikoff, like you just had Lyle Alzado, John Madden,
Speaker 1: Al Davis. These were true characters, but you had interchangeable
Speaker 1: parts and then the team stayed relevant. You know, with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys you had Roger Staubach, and then after that
Speaker 1: you would have Troy aikman U. You know, the Steelers
Speaker 1: would have Terry Bradshaw. Then eventually you would have Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger the Packers have. You've gone from Bart Starr to
Speaker 1: Bred Farb to Aaron Rodgers and remained relevant for fifty
Speaker 1: years now. They did have dips, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: you had a Hall of Fame quarterback. There. We'll take
Speaker 1: a break. We'll talk to Ross Tucker, our good buddy,
Speaker 1: the former NFL lineman Nice the Cowboys Radio network, former
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, the analyst Babe Laufenberg will join us as well,
Speaker 1: and Charlie Steiner, the voice of the Dodgers on the
Speaker 1: Atmosphere with the Astros in town. Does he agree with
Speaker 1: what Joey Vados said yesterday on this show and maybe
Speaker 1: we move on from the astros and stopped booing them.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen last night at the Dodger Stadium, seventeen
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Speaker 1: stat of the day, and a poll question. We'll settle
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Speaker 1: what's the poll question you want to go with? I
Speaker 1: started with our one the most iconic NFL football team
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, Stealers, Packers, and Raiders. Those are our
Speaker 1: four choices. No more are we leaving out anybody? Are
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers iconic? The Bear, the Bears, Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Even as a Bears fan, I would not put them
Speaker 1: on there because even though they started the league, they
Speaker 1: since then they won one Super Bowl. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: one is the one everybody talks about. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: a Bears fan, you do you get the feeling that
Speaker 1: they won like three in a row. How about the Giants?
Speaker 1: They're not interesting and the Super Bowl era they're not interesting.
Speaker 1: Like you know, they beat the Patriots twice. Okay, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, you have to have characters there.
Speaker 1: You have to have you know, John Madden, All Davis,
Speaker 1: you have to have Otis Sistrunk. You need, you need history,
Speaker 1: you need success. You have me and Joe Green, Steeve,
Speaker 1: Kurt and Jack Lambert, Terry Bradshaw, Chuck Noll. The Giants
Speaker 1: have Okay, Bill Parcels Giant. Yeah, but really, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna be iconic, it has to be during the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl era. Yes, look Lt. Carson Banks. There's some names
Speaker 1: there during the older Giants. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't
Speaker 1: know if they're iconic. This is when you know your
Speaker 1: iconic when your fan base is across the country, when
Speaker 1: you'll have a home game, your team has a home
Speaker 1: game and there's more fans from Pittsburgh there, right, that's
Speaker 1: when you know your iconic. Ross Tucker Our good buddy,
Speaker 1: the former NFL offensive lineman, host of the Ross Tucker
Speaker 1: Football podcast, and you can check out the Ross Tucker
Speaker 1: Football podcast. Also game analyst for the Eagles in their preseason,
Speaker 1: also does some college football in NFL for CBS in
Speaker 1: Westwood One. Ross joins us. Now, how how would you
Speaker 1: answer that most iconic NFL team in history is? You know,
Speaker 1: for me, it's probably either the Packers or the Steelers.
Speaker 1: And it was interesting Dan hearing you guys talk about it.
Speaker 1: You know what it really is like for all of
Speaker 1: us our age group, it's whoever was featured the most
Speaker 1: on NFL films from the sixties and seventies, you know,
Speaker 1: like that is what's iconic. I can just picture Vince Lombardi,
Speaker 1: you know, and on all those videos. Come on, guys,
Speaker 1: let's tell the Green Bay Powers sweep or the videos
Speaker 1: of like Lynn Swan being in the air for forty
Speaker 1: eight seconds catching passes in Super Bowls. I think it's
Speaker 1: hard for any other team to be more iconic than
Speaker 1: the teams that were so revered and featured on those
Speaker 1: NFL films videos from the sixties and seventies. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like they had a head start because they were successful
Speaker 1: at a time when we didn't get to watch all
Speaker 1: of the games. Maybe you got to see your team
Speaker 1: featured with Howard Cosell on Monday Night Football with the
Speaker 1: three minute highlights, but I would probably. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a wrong answer if it's the Cowboy, Steelers, Packers
Speaker 1: or Raiders. It just depends on you know, what was
Speaker 1: your fandom growing up and was it based off your
Speaker 1: dad or your grandfather, Because that's usy where it starts.
Speaker 1: If you're a fan of that team now and you're
Speaker 1: in your thirties, chances are it was based off of
Speaker 1: who your dad was rooting for. How important is preseason? Well,
Speaker 1: I think to the teams themselves, I think we saw
Speaker 1: last year probably not all that important. To the players
Speaker 1: that are playing tonight, it's everything. I mean. I had
Speaker 1: some guy on Twitter hit me up at Ross Tucker
Speaker 1: NFL and say preseason doesn't mean you know what, and
Speaker 1: I just replied back to him, Dan, you know there's
Speaker 1: ninety man rosters, right, we won't see hardly any starters tonight,
Speaker 1: So there's at least fifty guys playing tonight. Okay, that
Speaker 1: we're two time All State, two time All Conference in college,
Speaker 1: maybe the best athlete to ever come from their hometown.
Speaker 1: That the two and a half three quarters they play
Speaker 1: tonight it's the most important game of their lives. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about guys fifty to ninety on the roster, certainly
Speaker 1: sixty five to ninety on each roster. It's the most
Speaker 1: important game of their life. So if you don't care
Speaker 1: about that, that's fine. That doesn't bother me. I get it.
Speaker 1: You just want the starters, You just want the games
Speaker 1: that count. That's fine. But number one, to those guys
Speaker 1: it means everything. And number two just don't tell me
Speaker 1: you're the biggest fan ever. Like I always laugh when
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, die hard cowboy fan, I'm the
Speaker 1: biggest fan ever. But they don't watch the preseason like
Speaker 1: there are a lot of fans out there. They watch
Speaker 1: every second of the preseason because they care about the
Speaker 1: third string tight end and the O line depth and
Speaker 1: they want to know who the fourth corner will be.
Speaker 1: And it's totally acceptable. If you don't feel that way,
Speaker 1: just do me a favorite. Don't call yourself the biggest fan. Ever.
Speaker 1: How do you make a roster during preseason if you're
Speaker 1: a borderline player? Two things, Number one is first of all,
Speaker 1: it starts by doing something to stand out. You know,
Speaker 1: there's ninety guys. Now there's only eighty guys, Dan, when
Speaker 1: I was playing, But with ninety guys, especially if you're
Speaker 1: one of these bottom of the roster, undrafted guys, you
Speaker 1: must do something unique or different to stand out. And
Speaker 1: mine was taking the aggression to another level, right, Like
Speaker 1: having the coaches have to tell me to calm down.
Speaker 1: That's one way they love that. You're like, like Joe
Speaker 1: Judge has all the Giants players running and doing push ups.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile the next day he's like, I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1: That really turned me on. I really liked that they
Speaker 1: all act like they don't like fights, Dan, they're all
Speaker 1: full of it. Okay, if you're a football coach, it's
Speaker 1: because at one point you loved football and you played it,
Speaker 1: which means you loved the physical part of it, which
Speaker 1: means you love that you love it. DA mean, Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell at least admits it. I love Dan Campbell. Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell is like, oh and that was amazing. Definitely, like
Speaker 1: at least he says it. So Number one, you have
Speaker 1: to stand out in some way, and the number two
Speaker 1: the coaches have to trust you. They have to trust you,
Speaker 1: which means you cannot mess up mentally. Honestly, Dan, I
Speaker 1: wasn't that physically gifted, but I never messed up mentally.
Speaker 1: I always did what the coaches wanted me to do.
Speaker 1: I blocked the right guy the way they wanted me
Speaker 1: to block him, and then I tried to kill the
Speaker 1: guy to the best of my ability. And that's like
Speaker 1: the only reason I made it with Schottenheimer as a
Speaker 1: rookie and then stuck around for a while. But I
Speaker 1: guess you get cut then if you do mess up
Speaker 1: something mentally, if you're alignment, I'm guessing yeah, any position, Dan,
Speaker 1: it is the single biggest reason why guys don't make it.
Speaker 1: I think NFL football is way more complicated or at
Speaker 1: least detailed then people realize. I can't type. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen guys that bench press six hundred pounds. They
Speaker 1: just couldn't figure it out. I've seen guys that were
Speaker 1: way more talented than me. They didn't know who to
Speaker 1: block when the defense would change their alignment. And honestly,
Speaker 1: some of the guys, Dan, I actually felt bad for.
Speaker 1: There was a kid I remember, he was really gifted.
Speaker 1: He spent every second Dan studying the playbook and if
Speaker 1: you would ask him, he would know it. You'd say, well,
Speaker 1: what happens did they do this? What happens did they
Speaker 1: do that? But then when he actually got out there,
Speaker 1: Dan and they're flying around, and it happens in a
Speaker 1: split second. It's a different type of intelligence. And some
Speaker 1: guys it comes very naturally for and other guys really
Speaker 1: struggle with it. And if you really struggle with the
Speaker 1: football IQ the FBI, if you will football intelligence, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a really tough time sticking around the NFL
Speaker 1: as a player. More intriguing team this season the Steelers
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, they're both pretty intriguing. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Steelers because of what happened last year, because of a
Speaker 1: totally new offensive line, and because of Big Ben. I mean,
Speaker 1: I go on in Pittsburgh radio. I live in central Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of people in Pittsburgh, including you
Speaker 1: know radio guys and fans. They wanted to team to
Speaker 1: move on for Big Ben, and they wanted to turn
Speaker 1: the page. They thought Big Ben and think that Big
Speaker 1: Ben's washed up. They wanted to see what Mason Rudolph
Speaker 1: could do in his last year under contract, and or
Speaker 1: turn the page and get the next guy. I thought
Speaker 1: they were nuts. I think the Steelers did the right
Speaker 1: thing giving Ben one last chance, especially when you have
Speaker 1: a roster with Cam Hayward and Minka Fitzpatrick and t J.
Speaker 1: Watt and these guys. I think that those guys and
Speaker 1: Ben have earned the right to make one more run
Speaker 1: at this thing. I mean, they were eleven and o lash.
Speaker 1: I thought they were the best team in the NFL
Speaker 1: until the Wheels came off. How many legitimate Super Bowl
Speaker 1: contenders do you think we have this year? Maybe six?
Speaker 1: Maybe suckers. So in the NFC, maybe three, Rampa, Green
Speaker 1: Bay and maybe the Rams. I don't see the nine
Speaker 1: Ers the Seahawks getting there. So in the NFC, I'm
Speaker 1: saying maybe three, and I think even the Rams are dubious.
Speaker 1: In the AFC, it's obviously Kansas City. I would say Buffalo, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Nobody in the AFC South, nobody else, AFC West. I
Speaker 1: don't think Baltimore is legit. I'm saying six total. I'm
Speaker 1: saying the six. I just gave you three each in
Speaker 1: each conference. And I wonder if our expectations a little
Speaker 1: high on the Rams, because as soon as they got
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, I said, I don't know what the odds are,
Speaker 1: but that's my MVP pick. And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden I started to see where there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people who thought, oh, the Rams, say could go
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and Matthew Stafford could be the MVP.
Speaker 1: Like Peter King was gushing that Matthew Stafford is gonna
Speaker 1: throw for six thousand yards. I don't know. Our expectation
Speaker 1: level a little too high for the Rams. I think
Speaker 1: it is. Look, I think Matthew Stafford is better than
Speaker 1: Jared Golf, but I don't think it's as pronounced everybody
Speaker 1: else seemed to think. I mean, most of these years,
Speaker 1: if you looked at quarterback rankings, Stafford was probably somewhere
Speaker 1: between ten and fifteen, and Golf might have been between
Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty. I don't know. I mean, how much
Speaker 1: of a difference is that, dan Is that that a
Speaker 1: two or three win difference? Is that Super Bowl or not?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, And by the way, when
Speaker 1: they get Stafford, they lose John Johnson and Troy Hill.
Speaker 1: Both those guys went to Cleveland. So they lost two
Speaker 1: of the guys that are really good in their secondary.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they gained Stafford, but they lost
Speaker 1: some other guys, and I'm just fascinated by them. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have no first round picks forever, they have no
Speaker 1: middle class. They have elite guys and guys making the minimum,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of working for him. We'll see if
Speaker 1: it works this year. Lut mc club and you're rolling
Speaker 1: your He's back there at Ross Tucker Well. Stafford was
Speaker 1: ranked ten to fifteen when he was with the Lions.
Speaker 1: Now these with Sean mcvagh in the Rams, don't you
Speaker 1: think he'll possibly move up that ranking. I mean he might,
Speaker 1: That's certainly what they're counting on. I guess I would
Speaker 1: say about the Sean McVeigh thing always makes me laugh.
Speaker 1: He's obviously a good coach, right, but you ever notice
Speaker 1: how for four years every time the Rams scored a
Speaker 1: bunch of points, it was Sean mcvah. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Sean mc I sound like Paulie doing my impersonation right there.
Speaker 1: Sean mcvah, Oh my gosh. He's the greatest coach of
Speaker 1: all the best. He's got a great house away when
Speaker 1: when whenever the Rams stunk, it was or they didn't
Speaker 1: do anything on offense, Jared Goff stinks. It's all Jared
Speaker 1: Goff's fall. You can't have it both ways, Dan, you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't. Everything positive can't be McVeigh and everything negative
Speaker 1: is golf. Like, let's let's split up both of them
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, but that happens with Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: When that offense is clicking, that's Kyle Shanahan's offense. But
Speaker 1: when it's not that Jimmy Garoppolo can't play. It's a
Speaker 1: great point. It's a great point. They both deserve a
Speaker 1: slice of the success and futility. Pie. I agree. It's
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. And what do you mention
Speaker 1: right now? Not enough? Oh, by the way, how about
Speaker 1: this last friday on the beach? Okay, I did an
Speaker 1: hour walk on the beach, and every five minutes I
Speaker 1: did twenty push ups. So I had done one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty push ups. And then at the end I
Speaker 1: wanted to like rep out, I'm two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: six pounds. I did forty two push ups. I did
Speaker 1: my age in pushups after doing one hundred and sixties.
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't I don't max out, but
Speaker 1: that's my new thing until I die. I want to
Speaker 1: be able to do my age and push ups. Gonna
Speaker 1: get tough in my seventies, certainly in my eighties, but
Speaker 1: I want to try to do my age and push ups.
Speaker 1: Who's the strongest guy that you were ever around? Either
Speaker 1: teammate played against? Well? I was teammates with Larry Allen,
Speaker 1: who was ridiculously strong. I think he benched like seven
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. But there was a guy. There was a
Speaker 1: guy Chris Valerio who I played with him Buffalo. He's
Speaker 1: actually the head coach at Saint Francis, which is an
Speaker 1: FCS school. Polly probably watches all their games live out
Speaker 1: in Western PA. I saw him. They drafted a kid
Speaker 1: Dan This is a true story. We drafted a kid
Speaker 1: out of Vanderbilt that bench six hundred pounds, and so
Speaker 1: there was a discussion on the bills, who's the strongest guy.
Speaker 1: So we go to Valeriol who's like in his eighth year,
Speaker 1: and we're like, you know what you gotta do right, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like thirty two years old. We're like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, yeah, I know, I know. He
Speaker 1: puts four ninety five on the incline but incline bench
Speaker 1: and reps it out for ten, gets off the bench
Speaker 1: and like stairs at the Vanderbilt rookie just like and
Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, it was awesome. It was meathead, meathead,
Speaker 1: this at its finest. Uh. And you're the president and
Speaker 1: a member, proud member. Yes, of course, I'm surprised we're
Speaker 1: not doing this on a meat Friday. Every Friday. I
Speaker 1: see that tweet and I get so jealous. It's great
Speaker 1: to talk to you. We'll check in with you during
Speaker 1: the season. Ross, Thank you, all right, see you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah's Ross Tucker, former an NFL offensive lineman and host
Speaker 1: of the Ross Tucker Football podcast. Nice. Uh. It's like
Speaker 1: Fritzie goes, hey, you want to talk to Ross Tucker,
Speaker 1: and I go, yeah, how could you not? Guy? Yes,
Speaker 1: I always feel better when I talked to Ross Tucker. Yes,
Speaker 1: he almost made you fired up to watch preseason football.
Speaker 1: He's like, that was a good argument. No, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch the game. I'm not gonna watch closely. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: listen to it. I might not be watching, but it'll
Speaker 1: be in the background. Yeah, Paul, I actually enjoy the
Speaker 1: second half of preseason games when you see those players like, oh,
Speaker 1: I remember him, he was at Florida International. It's like
Speaker 1: some quarterback you liked a couple of years ago. Get
Speaker 1: him one last shot. Got our play of the day.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll get to phone calls as well.
Speaker 1: We'll check in with the Dodgers coming up a little
Speaker 1: bit later on check in with the Cowboys as well.
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Speaker 1: mccleven sent me a list the ten teams with the
Speaker 1: most Hall of Famers in the NFL. Let's see who
Speaker 1: wants to guess which franchise has the most Hall of
Speaker 1: Famers all time? Todd, I'll start with you, Ikey, I
Speaker 1: thought of Pittsburgh was the first team. McKim tomorrow. All right,
Speaker 1: mcleven already knows Seaton. This team has thirty five Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers. Does that sound right? Mcleven. There are a
Speaker 1: number one on the list. Yeah. I think this is
Speaker 1: updated at thirty five. Number one, okay, Seaton, O'Connor, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I's gonna say the Steelers, but I'll say the Cowboys now,
Speaker 1: alrighty Paully, I think it's the Bears due to longevity.
Speaker 1: All right, it is the Bears with thirty five Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers. You're counting Decatur, I assume, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you got guys in you know, the nineteen forties,
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. Yeah, so that's a I was surprised that
Speaker 1: Cowboys are number nine on this list. I would think
Speaker 1: they were one, two or three. Yeah. The Eagles are ten,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are nine, the Raiders seventh, with the Niners.
Speaker 1: The Steelers are sixth in there, followed by the Giants,
Speaker 1: that's once again longevity. The Packers with thirty two, the
Speaker 1: Rams with thirty two, and I think you have the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. Now the Washington football team tied for second
Speaker 1: on that list with thirty two. Yeah, paully, have the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had a guy going to the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: who's playing the past two deads? Let's see, Well, there's
Speaker 1: three obvious ones. You mean the last two decades, like
Speaker 1: the oh you mean yeah, the nineties, I guess was
Speaker 1: over two decades, right, in the past twenty one years.
Speaker 1: I guess the couple offensive linement probably well, Troy went
Speaker 1: in in two thousand. Players who have played on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys since two thousand? Oh since two thousand? Um, anyone going?
Speaker 1: I think Mark um Tryan Smith, Terrn Smith never early? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he's not, dude. That's interesting that one Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: in two decades. Yeah. Uh, well, see they include terall
Speaker 1: Owens like the Cowboys also include Bill Parcels. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so that's a little misleading. There have the Raiders had well,
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson is going in this weekend. Um, Tim Brown
Speaker 1: played for the Raiders in oh three, Uh, Rod Woodson,
Speaker 1: they're including him in here. Yeah, so, I mean they
Speaker 1: got Jerry Rice on here with the Raiders. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a little tricky with you know, these guys played
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, they did, but that's not what they're
Speaker 1: known for. Alex in Pennsylvania, Alex, what's on your mind today? Suh?
Speaker 1: My entire family is originally from Iowa, so my dad
Speaker 1: is a resident Washington football fan, which made sense in
Speaker 1: the eighties. But being as it's twenty twenty one and
Speaker 1: they haven't been good very long, I am now a
Speaker 1: neutral NFL fan. I wanted to see if you had
Speaker 1: any idea NFL red zone had anything to do with that,
Speaker 1: with the exposure that maybe you have your fans have
Speaker 1: gotten in the last twenty years or so. Thanks, have
Speaker 1: a great day and suck it back row all right,
Speaker 1: thank you? Alex? Yeah, I think that fans now, if
Speaker 1: you're in fantasy, you're a fan of a player, not
Speaker 1: a team. If you're a gambler, I mean, you can
Speaker 1: be a fan of a team that helps you win money,
Speaker 1: but you're not necessarily good that your fandom can cost
Speaker 1: you money when you go, oh, I got a root
Speaker 1: for the Steelers. That's not always the best thing to
Speaker 1: do when your fandom gets in front of you, know,
Speaker 1: your brain, and what you should do when you're gambling. Yeah, Mclub.
Speaker 1: Also we met a free agency got It's not like
Speaker 1: when we were kids. Were the same guys were on
Speaker 1: your team every year. Bob in New York, Hi Bob,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me to day? Hey Bob?
Speaker 1: Hi Dan? How are you great? What do you have
Speaker 1: for me? Bob? I just wanted to comment on in
Speaker 1: the poll question iconic teams in the seventies. I keep
Speaker 1: thinking back when I was younger and when Madden used
Speaker 1: to comment on the Hobbs, the Joseph Colby and all
Speaker 1: the fans used to wear pig noses and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: That was pretty iconic to me when I was younger.
Speaker 1: And I also wanted to comment quickly on Charlie Steiner.
Speaker 1: I keep going back. I love this bright humor. When
Speaker 1: he used to do the Sports Center commercials and he
Speaker 1: switched his Sports Center anchor role with Billy Shoe to
Speaker 1: be the pool boy in Noble's Place. One of his
Speaker 1: classic comments was a player with day to day and
Speaker 1: then he said, aren't we all love Charlie Steiner? All right,
Speaker 1: and thank you Bob. Yeah, it was Elizabeth Shoe's brother,
Speaker 1: Andrew Shoe, and we had this swap where Andrew Shoe
Speaker 1: joined Sports Center and Charlie joined. Was that nine O
Speaker 1: two one? Oh? And he was the poolboy? Is that what?
Speaker 1: It was? Melrose Place? And that was a little too
Speaker 1: quick there, Todd with Melrose Yeah. I never I never
Speaker 1: watched Melrose Place or nine O two one. Oh. Never, Nope,
Speaker 1: never did, never did. But yeah, Charlie was the poolboy.
Speaker 1: He was wearing a bandana. But there was nothing better
Speaker 1: than getting Charlie Steiner on Sports Center. And all it
Speaker 1: took was just all humor from somebody or something, and
Speaker 1: Charlie would lose it. He would he'd get to the
Speaker 1: point where he couldn't even be on TV, couldn't broadcast. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: maybe once you finished with season two of Outer Banks,
Speaker 1: you can run back through Bev Hills. I have finished
Speaker 1: season two of Outer Banks. Oh oh you have? Oh? Yes, oh, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I will say that there is going to be a
Speaker 1: season three Outer Banks. Cliffhanger, Yes, indeed, yes, an incredible appearance.
Speaker 1: At the at the end of the final episode season two,
Speaker 1: Dad loses his phone and what happens next. But it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting Chad becomes a meme and stuff. There is
Speaker 1: no Chad. It's John outer Banks High. Yeah, it's John
Speaker 1: b all right. Mclovin updates the poll results. This is interesting.
Speaker 1: The most iconic NFL team, it's the Packers are leading,
Speaker 1: then the Steelers, then the Cowboys, and then the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Packers over the Cowboys and Steelers. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: Packer fans around the country. Yeah, And if you think
Speaker 1: of all the stadiums, So Dallas has a new stadium,
Speaker 1: but that's not iconic the way it was when you
Speaker 1: had the hole in the roofs so God could watch
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You know. Pittsburgh, that's not an iconic stadium.
Speaker 1: Green Bay has an iconic stadium, like Lambo is still iconic,
Speaker 1: you know, when you think about it, it's an experience
Speaker 1: when you go there because it's it's Lambo and the
Speaker 1: statues and just a history. Yeah, that's a cool place
Speaker 1: to visit. Coming up, we'll check in with the Dodgers
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