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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. Welcome inside the Jason Smith Show with my

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Speaker 2: That's what I call a show.

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Speaker 1: we're here, justin Frossburg. Some tough news about Justin. I

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Speaker 1: want to tell you he may may not be in tonight.

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Speaker 1: He may or may not be in for the next

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Speaker 1: few nights. He sent me a text not too long ago.

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Speaker 1: He is on Melrose Avenue right now buying new Nike

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Speaker 1: Air Force ones with his new offensive coordinator, Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's sweet.

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Speaker 1: It may wind up being like a bucket list kind

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Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks for him, where Frostburg and

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Speaker 1: McDaniel are just doing their own thing around La together.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel put a.

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Speaker 1: Picture up on his Instagram account he and Frostburg buying

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Speaker 1: Capri pants together.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, so they might even.

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Speaker 1: Troll Bills fans together. I mean, this is now like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't know when. Oh, why wait,

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Speaker 1: he's here. Oh he walked in, He walked. Oh hey, Frosburg,

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Speaker 1: how's it going, man?

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Speaker 2: How you feeling?

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Speaker 4: I can't hear you because I'm stomping in my air

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Speaker 4: Force ones.

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Speaker 5: Ah can't be cold enough for him, man, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Oh great is that?

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. This is okay. This

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Speaker 1: is good and bad. It's it's good because this story

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Speaker 1: is really good for the Chargers. It's bad because I'm

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Speaker 1: more excited about teams hiring offensive and defensive coordinators than

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Speaker 1: I am hiring head coaches.

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Speaker 2: That's how bad around it is. Like this move that

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Speaker 2: just came in.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, former Dolphins head coach who was fired, pulled

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Speaker 1: out of the search, pulled out of the interview process

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Speaker 1: to become Brown's head coach.

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Speaker 2: So think about that.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather be in oc with the Chargers than a

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Browns. Oh yeah, but still that

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Speaker 1: kind of I think there's a lot to say to

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Speaker 1: it though, right of you just finished this coaching run.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna try to get yourself re established as the guru,

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Speaker 1: maybe find your love of things again, because I gotta

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Speaker 1: imagine the last year had to be difficult to deal with,

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Speaker 1: all right, the benching of Tua, some of the injuries,

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Speaker 1: it was a pretty miserable slog through a seventeen game season.

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Speaker 1: Now you get to reset, go back, and now you've

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of toys to operate with. You got

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Speaker 1: a coach, and Jim Harbaugh that he gets to be

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Speaker 1: the quirky guy at the news conferences, and you just

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Speaker 1: get to go back to the lab. And then you

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Speaker 1: come back and you can re emerge and guess what,

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Speaker 1: Like we just said with Dante More, the Browns job

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Speaker 2: The Jets' job will be there. It'll always be there.

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Speaker 5: It's in perpetuity next what I mean, those jobs are

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Speaker 5: away from the toxicity of what just went down, and

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Speaker 5: make Justin Herbert that guy, because if you can get

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Speaker 5: him to the level that Jim Harbaugh thinks he's already at,

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Speaker 5: you're a hero.

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Speaker 2: He took TUA to the playoffs, We're going to the.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, dude, I honestly I love this move, like

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Speaker 1: as down I was on the Chargers after that loss,

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Speaker 1: lad McConkie's not used at all. He's pissed the end

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Speaker 1: This is this is the best way to flip that narrative.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Mike McDaniel was probably my favorite higher of

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Speaker 1: the offseason. When someone's going to get him as their

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Speaker 1: this is a phenomenal move for them.

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Speaker 5: As we look at the landscape, there's a couple of

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Speaker 5: those jobs that stand ahead and shoulders above and where

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Speaker 5: you've got quarterbacks and whatever. Rumors start swirling about in

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Speaker 5: After I think all the social media backlash, they finally

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Speaker 5: didn't hate him that much. Here here's a big but

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Speaker 5: like there, you have quarterbacks everywhere else. It's the same

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Speaker 5: run in the mill kind of thing, right, Yeah, Pittsburgh Baltimore,

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Speaker 5: they're different jobs because they don't come open with that

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Speaker 5: else is in the spin cycle.

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Speaker 4: Immediately give it two years.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're looking for a new coach.

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Speaker 5: You want in So for Mike McDaniel to get off

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Speaker 5: the carousel and just say, you know what, I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: go to a job where we've got some stability. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I've got some pieces that need to be fixed, as

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Speaker 5: you said, talk about the tackles getting healthy. Maybe figure

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Speaker 5: out how to make Mconkey that guy again, but also

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Speaker 5: really bring up these other weapons around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It's a nice reheabit and it's great for us. He

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Speaker 5: won't talk to the press as much. No, so we

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Speaker 5: don't get that same level. It's gonna be too bad.

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Speaker 5: So he's gonna have to surreptitiously just record him so

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Speaker 5: that we get some great sound bodies.

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Speaker 2: Well, he just put it.

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Speaker 1: He just put a note on Instagram, Frostburg Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: and he said, he said, Hey, meet me in bolt

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Speaker 1: Smooth because that's justin on Twitter Boltsmooth. Meet me in

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Speaker 1: Bolts booth at Lululemon in Century City tomorrow at four

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Speaker 1: thirty for a big sale. So Lululemon tomorrow for thirty

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Speaker 1: you and McDaniel, Oh I'm there, all right, good, very good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get the chargers, chargers Lululemon pants.

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute, are you booking things for Frostburger. For McDaniel,

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Speaker 5: I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Saying he's putting stuff on social media.

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Speaker 4: That's out here to stand online like it's the opening

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Speaker 4: night of Star Wars. Full cause play like Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: H Right.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the other big story in the NFL that's broken

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Speaker 1: coming up in a few minutes. The other big story

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Speaker 1: that's broken in the last hour revolves everybody's favorite quarterback

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Speaker 1: Orlando Ledbetter with the Atlanta Journal Constitution put out a

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Speaker 1: column today about new head coach Kevin Stefanski, and part

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Speaker 1: had a dumpster fire at quarterback in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and DeShawn Watson failed, which started a chain reaction to

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, it's different here, and this is what

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Speaker 1: Well, Baker Mayfield proving that, well, you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: go away, Fred, Maybe you can hibernate for a while,

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Speaker 1: but Hey, eventually I'm gonna come back out.

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Speaker 2: And here he is, boom like a ninja. I'm jumping out.

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Speaker 1: He quote tweets this and says failed is quite the reach.

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Speaker 1: Pal still waiting on a text slash call from him

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Speaker 1: Stefanski after I got shipped off like a piece of garbage.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach. I

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Speaker 1: like the insertion of the pal, Yeah, hey, Pal, that's it, Pal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I I got a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I missed this Baker Mayfield. As much

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Speaker 1: as I've given him credit for maturing over the years,

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Speaker 1: he had a phenomenal year last year, all the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, I you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I missed this version of I miss We're hey. I

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Speaker 1: we're back in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the good old days are back now, all right?

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Speaker 4: Eh.

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Speaker 5: I think he got needled by his buddies that he

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Speaker 5: needed to get back to having an edge to him

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Speaker 5: that he'd lost on all of that as the good

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Speaker 5: family man and everything else, even though all had gone right,

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Speaker 5: And you look at his Tampa Bay years four thousand,

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Speaker 5: forty five hundred and thirty six ninety three, the touchdown

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Speaker 2: I like that I missed the salty again. I feel

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Speaker 2: like it's the good old days.

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Speaker 1: Hey Baker by rde big Baker Mayfield trying to fight

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Speaker 1: with authors and writers and radio hosts. Hey Baker's back, man, Hey,

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Speaker 1: al right, but I have you ready for this is

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna shock you. I have a non hot take

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Speaker 1: about this story, a non hot take because sometimes what's that?

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Speaker 1: What's that show that Duff McCay and does three Chords

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Speaker 1: in the Truth?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, Like, I feel this is one of those three

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Speaker 1: chords in the truth. And I could play a song

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Speaker 1: for you, but I can also just tell you the

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Speaker 1: truth about this story.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, still waiting on a text call from him after

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Speaker 1: I got shipped off like a piece of garbage. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's understand that you were not shipped off like a

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Speaker 1: piece of garbage. Everybody's got to take a little bit

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Speaker 1: of responsibility in their life, and Baker Mayfield has to

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Speaker 1: take a little bit of responsibility that he had two

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Speaker 1: good years in Cleveland and two average to below average ones.

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Speaker 1: He was the number one overall pick in the draft

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Speaker 1: and your last year turned out to be your worst

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Speaker 1: year when they had to make a decision on you

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Speaker 1: so decided to let you go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, first and third years were great, second and fourth miserable.

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Speaker 1: It's not like It's not like you were great for

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Speaker 1: four years and there was a personality conflict and Stefanski

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Speaker 1: said you're gone.

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Speaker 2: You were up and down. You were the number one

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Speaker 2: pick in the.

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Speaker 1: Draft, and a couple of years you were okay, and

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Speaker 1: a couple of years you weren't. So shipped off like

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Speaker 1: a piece of garbage. No judging by your career. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'll take you through.

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Speaker 1: But in the end, you gotta win football games, and

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Speaker 5: A couple of things and I'll go the hot take

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Speaker 5: So all of that is yeah, well, I mean, look

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Speaker 3: up and do some things pretty darn while on their

440
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Speaker 3: secondary now they run the run defense stunk, but they

441
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Speaker 3: also built the defense that was light in the ass,

442
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Speaker 3: and that was sort of the way they wanted to

443
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Speaker 3: approach things and that tended to bite them in some

444
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Speaker 3: critical times. Who's going to get Josh Allen over the hump?

445
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Speaker 3: I don't know any Josh Allen needs to get Josh

446
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Speaker 3: Allen over the hump, Like I don't know if Josh

447
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: Allen needs to, you know, win a game over time

448
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 3: instead of finding ways to come up short and in

449
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Speaker 3: many cases directly contributing to them coming up short by

450
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Speaker 3: missing wide open guys or trying to do too much

451
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Speaker 3: or turn the ball over. So look, I understand why

452
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Speaker 3: Tomlin's not there anymore, and why Harvall's not there anymore,

453
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Speaker 3: and why mc dermot's not there anymore. That doesn't mean

454
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Speaker 3: that these baton you know, handings are going to be

455
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Speaker 3: smoothly and that the next guy's going to be even

456
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Speaker 3: half as good. It's very easy for people who sit

457
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Speaker 3: with the owner to defend personnel decisions and point to

458
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Speaker 3: the guys screwing it up down on the you know,

459
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Speaker 3: down below. It's a lot harder to continularly find people

460
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Speaker 3: who can do this job of being an NFL head coach,

461
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Speaker 3: which clearly ain't easy. Jay.

462
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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of that, like we've heard rumors maybe Mike

463
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Speaker 1: McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers reunion in Pittsburgh. Are we going

464
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Speaker 1: to get any sexy hires or is it or is

465
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Speaker 1: it going to be well, we're just kind of hoping

466
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Speaker 1: that the young OCS and D season. If your last

467
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Speaker 1: name is Schule, you're getting a job.

468
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that it's gonna be sexy,

469
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Speaker 3: because if something was going to happen in the college

470
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Speaker 3: ransomminity or happened, or it would be happident a sap.

471
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Speaker 3: A lot of these surch as a pretty you know

472
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Speaker 3: down on sort of the the final guys in the

473
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Speaker 3: second interviews and all that stuff. So it's rare that

474
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Speaker 3: a mystery candidate emerges this and carries the day. I

475
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Speaker 3: don't think there's going to be you know, a shock

476
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Speaker 3: in that in that regard. Does somebody leave their post

477
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Speaker 3: really late in the game for health reason or whatever

478
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Speaker 3: in the offseason, and something like that could always pop up,

479
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Speaker 3: But I think this the known candidates are pretty much

480
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Speaker 3: what's what's kicking around. And you know, I think Jesse

481
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Speaker 3: Mentor is getting one of these jobs, and I think

482
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Speaker 3: it's probably going to be you know, Baltimore, like McDermott's

483
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Speaker 3: going to get one of these jobs. I'll be really

484
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Speaker 3: interested to see, you know, which which one it is,

485
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Speaker 3: you know, Cleveland, it looks like it's going to be

486
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Speaker 3: a young, offensive minded got Buffalo. I think Davis Webb.

487
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Speaker 3: I think Brian Flores absolutely deserves one of these jobs

488
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Speaker 3: if it's not Tom Brady, and I'm not sure it's

489
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Speaker 3: going to be Tom Brady. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 6: Who it is.

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Speaker 3: I don't see Arizona going back, you know, to a

492
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Speaker 3: defensive guy. I mean, I think this is kind of

493
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Speaker 3: this is kind of the cycle. You know, maybe somebody

494
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Speaker 3: waits for Clint Kubiak or a Chris Schuler or you know,

495
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Speaker 3: the see House kid in in LA, but those are

496
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Speaker 3: that's that's I think kind of where we are and

497
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Speaker 3: what's going on.

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Speaker 5: One of the guys that had been circulating and certainly

499
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Speaker 5: saw him associated baby would be in the next guy

500
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Speaker 5: for Lamar Jackson. Well, now he's canted out here, evidently

501
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Speaker 5: to Los Angeles, Mike McDaniel to join the Fray of

502
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Speaker 5: the Chargers and hang out with Jim r Abo a bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like that fit a lot. He's

504
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Speaker 3: I think, really at ease on the West Coast. Herbert

505
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: is obviously a tremendous athlete, a great quarterback, but somebody

506
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Speaker 3: who gets in his own head when it matters most.

507
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Speaker 3: And I think McDaniel can be a little bit of

508
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Speaker 3: a sense. He's clearly a completely different guy, with a

509
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Speaker 3: completely different vibe and a completely different skill set than

510
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Speaker 3: Greg Roman. You know, I also think they're going to

511
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: have to get serious about how they spend out there

512
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: a little bit too though, and they need some dudes

513
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Speaker 3: to can separate, and they got one dude to can separate.

514
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Speaker 3: But it's fifty to fifty. One is going to catch

515
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Speaker 3: the ball, you know. I think Gadson is an interesting piece,

516
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Speaker 3: but you know Lad mcconty and you know Keenan Allen, like,

517
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Speaker 3: I don't know, is that a little redundant? Like the

518
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Speaker 3: offensive line? Are these tackles going to be able to

519
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Speaker 3: come back and be what they were? The interior? That

520
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Speaker 3: offensive line has been pretty suspect really for pre dating

521
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Speaker 3: even Hardball's arrival. So and it looked if they lose

522
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Speaker 3: Jesse Mintor, and I think they're losing Jesse Mintter, then

523
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Speaker 3: that becomes a big issue defensively as well, because we

524
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Speaker 3: saw what Brandon Staley could do with those pieces, which

525
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Speaker 3: is next to nothing, and Winter basically takes the same

526
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Speaker 3: defense turned it in top five, you know, but beware

527
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Speaker 3: beware of Brian Daley two point oh. So that's going

528
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Speaker 3: to be I think a difficult hire for them, and

529
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Speaker 3: maybe there's somebody on staff that they like and maybe

530
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Speaker 3: that'll work. But yeah, I like that fit with with

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Speaker 3: with Herbert a lot, and I can understand that that's

532
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Speaker 3: where Nick Daniel wanted to be. And you know, we'll

533
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Speaker 3: we'll see what they do here with with Lamar. You mentioned,

534
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Speaker 3: you know, him maybe being a fit with Lamar. He

535
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Speaker 3: certainly could have been a fit with Josh Allen. Yeah,

536
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to have designs on

537
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Speaker 3: bringing Kingsbury. You're naggy in here with Lamar. I would

538
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Speaker 3: say that'd be pretty someone talks about that team for

539
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Speaker 3: hours a day. I would be here for it because

540
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Speaker 3: I think it'd be a disaster and they'll give me

541
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Speaker 3: no shortage things. I mean, I think, yeah, I think

542
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Speaker 3: that bring that on. I dare you, I dare you.

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Speaker 1: Jason Locking for our guest, the Jason Smith with Mike Carmon.

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Speaker 2: All Right, now, speaking of.

545
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Speaker 1: Baltimore or you had it up close with John Harbaugh

546
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Speaker 1: for the better part of the last two decades. Today

547
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Speaker 1: introduced as a new head coach of the Giants. Today,

548
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Speaker 1: we're spending too much focus on the hierarchy in Joe

549
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: Shane's job as GM versus my input as head coach.

550
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: He wanted more, saying the roster. It took a while

551
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Speaker 1: to get this deal to go down potentially because of

552
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Speaker 1: the division of power.

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Speaker 2: Between him and Joe Shane.

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Speaker 1: With everything that's gone on, what do you make of

555
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Speaker 1: what's happened with the Giants John Harbaugh going forward?

556
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Speaker 3: Well, he took the money and not the power in Baltimore,

557
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Speaker 3: and he came to regret it. I told him that

558
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Speaker 3: a long time ago when that was happening. You know,

559
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Speaker 3: I think he had a chance to see things from

560
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Speaker 3: Eric Tacosta, and instead he decided to just take a

561
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Speaker 3: whole lot of money instead and take and keep reporting

562
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Speaker 3: independently to the owner and not push for a bigger

563
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Speaker 3: say in personnel. And I know there were various times

564
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Speaker 3: when he did push a little bit to bring personnel,

565
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Speaker 3: guys who he liked and respected into the building. And

566
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Speaker 3: every time he did that, Eric Costa would get Ozzie

567
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: Newsom and some other people involved and say no, no, no,

568
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: you can't bring this person in. You can't bring that

569
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Speaker 3: person in. And it was territorial. And you know, John

570
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: Harball's had multiple times now to throw a bouquet Eric Costa,

571
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Speaker 3: both in the long and lunchy email he wrote on

572
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Speaker 3: the lay out of Baltimore. So with emoji's and everything else,

573
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Speaker 3: and then you know up there in New York and

574
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Speaker 3: he ain't said boo about him, which I think tells

575
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Speaker 3: you all you need to know. So he wasn't going

576
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Speaker 3: to go through that again with a young GM who's

577
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Speaker 3: over his ski. He doesn't know what he's doing, and

578
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 3: the costa's not even young anymore. But he's only been

579
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Speaker 3: at GM for four or five years, and he should

580
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Speaker 3: have fired when Harball was fired, said he gets to

581
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Speaker 3: hire his replacement because it's the NFL, and it's good

582
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: to be tight with the owner. But he wasn't gonna,

583
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: you know, he want to go for the okidok again.

584
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: So when you're the hottest guy out there, the money

585
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: you're obviously going to get. But I think that division

586
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Speaker 3: of labor and having the checks and balances where I

587
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: don't have to go through the GM to get to

588
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Speaker 3: the owner. And yeah, if they're the tie, the tie

589
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: goes in my favor. Now good on him, he deserves it.

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Speaker 4: Jason, last one for you, how big is your over under? Bet?

591
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: On Jared Steadham torching the Patriots.

592
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know about torching the Patriots, but

593
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 3: I went and rewatched last night. I did a lot

594
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: of work on him, and I did watch the two

595
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: games who started with the Raiders and the two games

596
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Speaker 3: who started for the Broncos, and like, I think it's

597
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: going to be.

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Speaker 6: Keeping simple stupid, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll throw the ball to Ingram a Ton.

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Speaker 3: I think I'll throw the ball to Harvey a Ton.

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Speaker 6: I think he'll run more than you.

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00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: Probably think he can run. And I do think he

603
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: can keep that game close. I think Sean Payton will

604
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: have a plan. I don't think they're going to win

605
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: the game, and if they have to play from behind,

606
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: I think they could really be in trouble. But I

607
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: suspect they keep the close ish. But in the end,

608
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: bo Nicks has an athletic factor and an improbable factor

609
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: in terms of his ability to kind of make some

610
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: things happen that I don't think. You know, Sindham can

611
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: hit some of those high notes and they don't run

612
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: the ball super effectively, and I think New England probably

613
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: wins this game.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason locking for That is at

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Speaker 1: Jason locking for one oh five seven the Fan in Baltimore, Odyssey,

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Speaker 1: Washington Post, Wanta bet Jay is always buddy, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week when we're previewing the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Always my pleasure, gentlemen, Thank.

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Speaker 4: You, good brother Chucker.

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Speaker 1: There goes Jason locking for it Jared's So we're actually

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Speaker 1: going to see Jared's that them start the AFC Championship're.

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Speaker 2: Very excited about that happening to see. I'm not I'm not,

624
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Speaker 2: I'm not really, I'm not really.

625
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Speaker 5: I like when you can put up all the comparisons

626
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Speaker 5: of the quarterbacks in their years and there's a bunch

627
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Speaker 5: of n's.

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Speaker 2: It makes it. It makes it easier for the Patriots

629
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Speaker 2: to win. It's just a wild dar No, it may

630
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Speaker 2: I'm not excited.

631
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Speaker 4: This is where Sean Payton can prove he's the super genius.

632
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: Everybody's told you, right, you're bringing me back a little bit.

633
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: But still yeah, No, I'd rather have him say.

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Speaker 1: I single handedly picked Bo Nicks out of obscurity and

635
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: turned him into this champion. I'd rather hear that because

636
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: we've gotten that from him for the better part of

637
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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 9: I knew he was the greatest quarterback you could ever

639
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 9: get in the draft, and that's why I picked Bo Nicks.

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00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 9: In fact, if you gave me a chance between bow

641
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 9: Knicks and Tom Brady at bart Starr.

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00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: I would pick bon Nicks.

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Speaker 4: You want to do a cul de sac fake and

644
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: how you jumped off that for a while and then

645
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: you came back. But Jared stid if it's the revenge

646
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: game man, he was the fourth round pick in twenty

647
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Speaker 4: nineteen for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Let's go all right?

649
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Speaker 1: So hey, we got more NFL on the way thanks

650
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: to Jason locking Ford stopping by.

651
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: Always a great visit for him with him.

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Speaker 1: But coming up next, things are so bad for one

653
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Speaker 1: NBA wanna be championship contender, they decided to have a

654
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Speaker 1: player's only meeting. Oh boy, guess what there could be

655
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Speaker 1: a player's only trade coming up soon. That's coming up next,

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Speaker 1: big lead against the Clippers, you almost give it all away,

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Speaker 1: but then you motor on to beat him by about

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Speaker 10: Here's Kobe feeling it for twenty bulls, and for Kobe

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Speaker 10: he is unbelievable. For Kobe White in twenty seven minutes,

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Speaker 10: he's got five threes.

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Speaker 2: He had seven the other night.

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Speaker 1: Bulls are in a network on the call a big

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Speaker 1: night for Kobe White, one eight, one ten. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: Bulls are going to be good again. It was great

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Speaker 1: when they started out so good. Then they have sucked

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Speaker 1: really bad. But now see, here's the thing. Only one

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Speaker 1: Chicago team can do well at a time. So while

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Speaker 1: things weren't going well for the Bears, hey the Bulls

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Speaker 1: were good. Then the Bears started to get really good

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Well, now the Bulls got to

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Speaker 1: suck for a while, but now your Bear season is over.

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Speaker 1: And look at the Bulls winning this game by twenty

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Speaker 1: eight points. I think the Bulls might be back. It's

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Speaker 1: like an EBB and flow, like the stock market. Yeah

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Speaker 1: there's balls. Yeah, and here we are with Kobe White,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks of Then when the market is good, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is when it sucks, right, because the Bulls are good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got it? Got okay? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, Pete Crow Armstrong continuing their posture first season

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Speaker 4: hangs back to back night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a it's a buddy cop.

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Speaker 5: Show hockey followed by some basketball. But yeah, forty seven

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Speaker 5: points for White.

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Speaker 4: He's the guy.

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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant keeps saying, is gonna be that guy, whether

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Speaker 5: it's with the Bulls or he escapes to another you

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Speaker 5: know better situation. Either way, it was interesting when the

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Speaker 5: Clippers did make a run to make it a six

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Speaker 5: point game, and then it got back out to twenty

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Speaker 5: real fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, really really quickly, really quick.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's because all the Clippers got tired, because everybody's

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Speaker 1: forty years old.

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Speaker 2: This is true.

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Speaker 1: We got it to within six. Yeah, but that's all

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Speaker 1: we can get. I'm exhausted, Okay, jameson down, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna thanks for getting this lead.

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Speaker 2: Kind of the close.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, uh yeah, the Knicks had a players only meeting

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Speaker 1: after getting pasted by the Mavericks last night, which again,

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Speaker 1: thankfully nobody saw this game or talked about it because

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Speaker 1: we the national championship game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely terrible.

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Speaker 4: It helped push it to the side.

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Speaker 2: It was, I mean like they were not for me

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Speaker 2: because you got I mean they were.

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Speaker 1: Losing seventy five to forty at halftime right like this.

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Speaker 1: They've they're two and nine in their last eleven games,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I mean look, part of

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Speaker 1: me would say, surface see, hey, the Knicks are just

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Speaker 1: trying to realize how tough it is to repeat, right,

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Speaker 1: to go back to back championships. Some types a little

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Speaker 1: harder when you're thinking, oh, yeah, you sell out to win,

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Speaker 1: Come on, but I gotta be honest, it's not Mike

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Speaker 1: Brown's fault.

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Speaker 2: It's Mike Brown's fault.

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown is a pretty good defensive coach, and the

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Speaker 1: Knicks are terrible defensively. You have too many guys out there,

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Speaker 1: and by too many, I mean Jalens and Karl Anthony

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Speaker 1: Towns that they're giving up big nights to teams that

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Speaker 1: you would have banged up Mavericks team that just welcome

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Speaker 1: Cooper flag back and you were never close against them, right.

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Speaker 1: I get that part of it is we have to

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Speaker 1: go out and execute. But I've seen this next team

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Speaker 1: play defensively the last year and a half with the

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Speaker 1: same personnel Tom Thibodeau and now Mike Brown, and they're

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Speaker 1: just not good, right. I mean, it's a collection of

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Speaker 1: five star starters that get paid a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: That boy, they're really good. But in the end, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a big trade because this is the year

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Speaker 1: for the Knicks to get to the finals. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what Detroit is, what their record is, this is

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Speaker 1: their year to get there until other teams start reloading,

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Speaker 1: whether you're Boston or at and seeing Boston play well

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Speaker 1: and have a better record when they're missing their best player.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that this Knicks starting five is good enough,

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I expect.

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Speaker 2: A big move by the deadline.

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Speaker 1: One or two of the high pri profile, high priced guys.

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Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns is gonna wind up getting traded. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's the honest maybe it's something else, but they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get to the to the trading deadline in two

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Speaker 1: and a half weeks, and it's gonna be. Yeah, we're good,

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Speaker 1: I know, James doon't said we're good enough as it is. No,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need a new mix. They're gonna need something else.

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Speaker 1: They gotta get better defensively. Offensively they're gonna be fine,

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Speaker 1: but defensively they really stick. I mean, that's the only

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Speaker 1: problem about Knicks, all right, the one problem. One really

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Speaker 1: stink and Brunton and Karl Anthony Towns together it is

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Speaker 1: not great. And Karl Anthony Towns has never fit in

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Speaker 1: to be the true one a where where he's consistent

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Speaker 1: every single night and he's the guy that's gonna bring

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Speaker 1: the most trade value. So you're gonna see the Knicks

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Speaker 1: make a big move I guarantee you at the deadline,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a couple new mix of players

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Speaker 1: coming in. They're gonna stay deep, and that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: another time with the Knick springboard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fun subplot to it all. To some degree,

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Speaker 5: you just wonder if it isn't the as Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 5: posted on his socials game forty four of eighty two

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Speaker 5: or thereabouts, right where we look at your third in

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Speaker 5: the standings, it's just a long slug with the short

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Speaker 5: depth in rotation that you have, So those defensive inadequacies

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Speaker 5: are just gonna be multiplied at this point in the

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Speaker 5: schedule as you race to the All Star break, and

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Speaker 5: then you come back down the other side when you've

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Speaker 5: got days off and everything. During a playoff series, you

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Speaker 5: can manage to this. All right, slow the game down,

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Speaker 5: you change it up a bit. But for Cat, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's back on the back page of the Fish Rap

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Speaker 5: as the the guy to blame in all this players

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Speaker 5: only meeting, uh, and then every rumor becomes the all right,

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Speaker 5: here's what this team can offer for Cat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's it's gonna be a time where

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get a high profile player, high priced player,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta trades up. But they have salary to trade,

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Speaker 1: so it's okay. I would assume Brunson and unbe Hart

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Speaker 1: are gonna be the safe ones. The everybody else is

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Speaker 1: gonna be out there maybe you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe the mix Mitchell Robinson something, but it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a new mix because defensively, and Mitchell Robinson's great defensive.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to give up one of those game guys. Unfortunately. Okay,

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Speaker 5: something happened, but something's gotta give. You can't give this

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Speaker 5: season away because this is your year. Maybe it turns

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Speaker 5: out maybe at the end, I'll see, maybe last year

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Speaker 5: was the year. Maybe the ist was the.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it never was the year. What it was, Maybe

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Speaker 4: that's the only title you ever celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Well, then we're definitely gonna hang a banner on that.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Two big stories involving quarterbacks coming up next right here,

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Speaker 1: Jason and Mike, this is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, you know who this music is for.

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Speaker 1: There's only one person, By god, It's the Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: Show with Mike Carmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: Two new members of the Baseball Hall of Fame Today,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Jones Carlos Beltran, proving that voters have short memories,

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Speaker 1: joining us now to break it all down. And a

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Speaker 1: man who I am waiting to send me a text

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Speaker 1: when the Mets signed Cody Bellinger. It is MLB Network

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Speaker 1: insider extraordinaire John Paul Morosi.

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Speaker 2: Hope, what's happening? How are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great? Although I have to point out that

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Speaker 6: my friends just passengers reported a moment ago that the

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Speaker 6: Mets are going to get Luise Roberts.

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Speaker 4: So whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's happened.

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Speaker 6: Not this just basically Justin Frosberg called my number and

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Speaker 6: as I looked at my phone, the alert that I

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Speaker 6: got was about Luise Robert and the Mets. So's it's

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Speaker 6: amazing that that, of all the winter evenings to have

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Speaker 6: a conversation on a winter Tuesday about baseball, that it

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Speaker 6: would that the conversation would start literally as this trade

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Speaker 6: is breaking? How about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, buddy, how about that?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? So bringing the Mets and White Sox together with

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Speaker 6: a great union of a Mets fan and a White

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Speaker 6: Sox fan on this show. Uh, and so basically we're

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Speaker 6: gonna we could have the two of you decide what

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Speaker 6: you'd prefer the trade to be, and then see if

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Speaker 6: David Stearns and Chris Guetz actually agree on that being

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Speaker 6: the case, I am.

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Speaker 2: I am extremely happy, John Paul.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know why I'm happy, because I like

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Speaker 1: even though Luise Robert is not the player Cody Bellinger is.

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Speaker 1: I am more than happy not getting into a seven year,

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Speaker 1: three hundred million dollar cock track with Cody Bellinger. So

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about that right now.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know what team probably will is the Yankees.

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Speaker 6: We'll see how that goes. But listen, I understands the

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Speaker 6: I'm in Cooper sound. The topic de jure is the

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame. I understand there are some misgivings on

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Speaker 6: the inclusion of Beltron in the Hall of Fame. I

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Speaker 6: voted for him. I have very little, very little misgivings

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Speaker 6: about having voted for him. I understand what happened in

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Speaker 6: twenty seventeen. I read the report. He I would say

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Speaker 6: in a way that very few other people involved in

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Speaker 6: it have paid a price. He paid a price. He

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Speaker 6: lost his job managing the mess. That's a pretty significant

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Speaker 6: price to pay. And I think we also have to

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Speaker 6: acknowledge that there were allegations of other teams in Major

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Speaker 6: League Baseball around that time doing similar things, again not

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Speaker 6: to the extent of the Astros, but to say that

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Speaker 6: Beltron is like the face of this scandal and should

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Speaker 6: be kept out of the Hall of Fame. For me,

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Speaker 6: I disagree with it. He clearly made a mistake. Most people,

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Speaker 6: in fact, all people in the Hall of Fame have

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Speaker 6: made mistakes, and so I think he has waited long enough,

872
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 6: he has paid enough of a penance for it, and

873
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 6: as far as where I sit, and he's a deserving

874
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer.

875
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: Well, John Paul Justin Frossberg wanted me to tell you

876
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: that he feels that he was also being rewarded by

877
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: not getting the Mets job. So that was why they

878
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: did a favor for it by not getting the Mets

879
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: managerial job. So it was more favors for him than

880
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Baseball did.

881
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 6: That is some circuitous logic, but I would expect nothing

882
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 6: less from justice.

883
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: Now to that end, we now suddenly see Andy pettit's

884
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 5: up to forty eight points, So Mike to believe those

885
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: with some years remaining, that we've changed the electorate enough

886
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 5: that we're going to start seeing some more guys with

887
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: some of these past misdeeds maybe be forgiven altogether.

888
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 6: Well, so as for our listeners who are maybe not aware.

889
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 6: Andy Pettitt did admit after he was named in the

890
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 6: Mitchell Reports to some limited ped use is the way

891
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 6: that it's been described, and so he did not he

892
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 6: did not fail a test, He was not suspended by MLB,

893
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: and so I put him in the same classification as

894
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 6: Bond the Clemens, both of them I voted for, and

895
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 6: actually I voted for Pettit for the first time this

896
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 6: year again. He My reasons for not voting for him

897
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 6: in the past probably had something to do with that

898
00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 6: context of having admitted ped use, albeit in a limited sample,

899
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 6: as at least as to what he said and the

900
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 6: overall context of his career is a resume that I

901
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 6: generally believe in I'm using that word intentionally. I generally

902
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 6: believe in his achievements. I generally believe in what that

903
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 6: Bonds was a great player. I generally believe that Clemons

904
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 6: was a great player. I have a great amount of

905
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 6: suspicion that Sammy Sosa would have become a great slugger

906
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 6: absence whatever he was putting in his body and so

907
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 6: I think that's why I did not vote for Sosa.

908
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 3: Nor did I support Maguire.

909
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 6: I just I didn't believe.

910
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: Enough in the arc of their careers. That's how I

911
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: look at it.

912
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 6: If you want to say that's subjective, it is. That's

913
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 6: why I have to vote. I weigh out all the

914
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 6: evidence and taken all the information that I can, and

915
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 6: I make the best decision that I can on And

916
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 6: so Petnett had to wait for a long time. I

917
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 6: don't think that he has enough time left to get

918
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 6: over the seventy five percent threshold. But the next couple

919
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 6: of years are going to be really interesting in terms

920
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: of the way the ballot looks. Because part of the

921
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 6: reason why Pettitt took a big jump this year, and

922
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 6: why Felix Hernandez did and why Udly did is it

923
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 6: was not a very crowded ballot. There was room on

924
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 6: this ballot to make your case for people, and I

925
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 6: used that space, and we had two guys get voted in.

926
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 6: I see two pretty clear candidates next time around, in

927
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 6: Buster Posey and John Lester, and so I'm one of

928
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 6: the people that will probably be in a position to

929
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 6: make a similar case for similar numbers of players on

930
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 6: next year's ballot.

931
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: All right, John Paul, So, as you said, here's Carlos Beltran.

932
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: We talked about some of the ped guys Mitchell report.

933
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Guys, what does this do for the other astros that

934
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: are going to come up at some point? Because Oz

935
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: al Twove is going to come up, other guys are

936
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: going to come up. Do they have a chance? Or

937
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: was Beltrand because he was just so much a better player,

938
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: it was easier to make that argument for.

939
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: Him a chance.

940
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 6: I think that al Tuove will ultimately get in. He

941
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 6: may have to wait a while before that happens. I

942
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 6: do believe al two ve gets in Springer and Korea

943
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 6: are probably a little more borderline in terms of their credentials.

944
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 6: I think from that seventeen team, that's probably the list

945
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 6: of guys that we would talk about. Obviously on the

946
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 6: pitching side, Verlander, I don't think you would really blame

947
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 6: him for that, and I think his resume speaks for

948
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 6: itself and he'll he'll go.

949
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: In, I think fairly easily.

950
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: But I do think al Tuove is the Hall of Famer.

951
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 6: I'm not as sure about Springer in Korea, but again,

952
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 6: clearly there were some things going on there that were

953
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 6: irregular and to probably the harshest extent, in the most

954
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 6: extreme extent of any fine stealing scheme that there was

955
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 6: at the time. So they were the outlier, and I

956
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: think they were treated.

957
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: In that way.

958
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 6: But to suggest that that that was the only team

959
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 6: that was transgressing in that method, I think is probably

960
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 6: probably a little bit difficult to believe, to be honest,

961
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: and so I think for that reason I would have

962
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 6: a hard time voting to keep Altuve out when I'm

963
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 6: just not sure and I did not have full full

964
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: information on everything that was happening and anybody else that

965
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 6: was trying to push the limit. In terms of other teams,

966
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 6: the Astros clearly clearly went way over the line, but

967
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 6: I'm not sure where all the other organizations were relative

968
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 6: to it, and absent any suspensions to the actual players involved,

969
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 6: I just I have a hard time keeping them out

970
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 6: of the Hall of Fame if I believe the rest

971
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 6: of their resume is worthy of the honor.

972
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 5: It's an interesting discussion because the change times they are

973
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 5: a change and certainly over the last twenty years that's

974
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 5: something you guys have had to weigh year to year

975
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 5: in terms of all of the Mitchell Report and the

976
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 5: findings Thereafter, eleven folks decided not to put any names on.

977
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: Their ballot this year. What would you say to them?

978
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 6: So I disagree. I disagree with that approach. I think

979
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 6: that for us to vote, and I understand the idea

980
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 6: why they are having a blank ballot that they want

981
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 6: to keep the Hall exclusive, and I suppose on some

982
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 6: level that is a noble goal. However, I would point

983
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 6: out that the system as it is set up keeps

984
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 6: the Hall exclusive. You have to have seventy five percent

985
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 6: of the voters agree, not more than fifty seventy five.

986
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 6: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemons, Gary Sheffield, Kurt Chilling, a lot

987
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 6: of really good players who had some flaws on their

988
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 6: record got between fifty and seventy five and never got

989
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: above seventy five. So I think that to say that

990
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 6: you have to have a blank ballot to make a

991
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 6: statement that the Hall needs to be exclusive, I just

992
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 6: think is unnecessary because the system in place already does it.

993
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 6: While I vote for ten players, I am not unilaterally

994
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 6: plopping ten people into the Hall of Fame every year.

995
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 6: I vote for ten because I realized that some vote

996
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 6: for zero that's how it works. So what we try

997
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 6: to balance each other out in that respect.

998
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 3: And the final point I would make is that I.

999
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 6: Just think that we as voters need to need to

1000
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: sort of index toward deciding to vote four people and

1001
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 6: not against people, because we need, I think, to respect

1002
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 6: and tell the history of the game and celebrate baseball history.

1003
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 6: You do that by electing players. You do that by

1004
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 6: bringing people to Cooperstown.

1005
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: And having them go to the museum.

1006
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 6: You do that by people signing autographs and being in

1007
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame and just recognizing the greatest players

1008
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 6: of a particular generation. Guess what, the pitchers of today

1009
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 6: are not going to have Bob Gibson's numbers or Ferguson

1010
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 6: Jenkins innings or Walter Johnson's versus. Just we're not We're

1011
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 6: not that anymore. The game has changed, and so to

1012
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 6: hold people to the standard that was set in the

1013
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 6: days of Don Drysdale is just not, in my opinion,

1014
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 6: a very productive way to go about it.

1015
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: Emlly Network inside of John Paul Morosi our guest. All right,

1016
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: So to pivot off of the Hall of Fame to

1017
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: free agency, as you mentioned, Cody Bellinger, maybe the Yankees

1018
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: as we're waiting, he's the next big domino to fall.

1019
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the Mets trade for Tarik School. I

1020
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: would assume you would text me if that was gonna happen,

1021
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: but I.

1022
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 6: Would text you I don't think it's gonna happen, but go.

1023
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: On good at least, And now I know that great?

1024
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: So you really think Bellinger ticketed to go back to

1025
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: the Yankees after this?

1026
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 6: So here's where I land on Bellinger. I think it's

1027
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 6: it's splitting. There's other teams that like the Jays and

1028
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 6: checked in at one point. But when I see the

1029
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 6: Mets to make that move for Robert Tonight reportedly, obviously,

1030
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 6: it sounds like it's getting finalized. I mean, that's that

1031
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 6: to me suggests that that that's one more team that's

1032
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 6: off of that list.

1033
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: Do it.

1034
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 6: Does a team like the Phillies all of a sudden

1035
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 6: make a play, maybe, but.

1036
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: I tend to doubt it. I think if they were

1037
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: going to make that move, they would have done so

1038
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 3: by now.

1039
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 6: It doesn't sound like they're going to be invested at

1040
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 6: that level. So it is my belief that he'll eventually

1041
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 6: go back to the Yankees. It sure seems like there's

1042
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 6: an epic staring contest going on right now between Scott

1043
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 6: Boris and the Yankees management. I again, the Jays could

1044
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 6: potentially swoop in and say, wait a minute, we missed

1045
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 6: on the shot, we missed on Tucker. Let's let's go

1046
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 6: back and get someone that that they've had interest in.

1047
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 6: But I would describe the Yankees still as a favorite

1048
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 6: to sign Cody Bellinger.

1049
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 5: I do like that Dombrowski came out and said it

1050
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 5: was a gut punch losing Bashett to the Mets, and

1051
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 5: then said we're done.

1052
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: We're not getting not adding to our team.

1053
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, thank you, Philadelphia, that's great, Well, thank you,

1054
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: So you're satisfied.

1055
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, well they did pivot to some extent and

1056
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 6: sign Road Mutto. Now, obviously JT is not in the

1057
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 6: same ballery structure and status as Bischett. But listen, David

1058
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 6: Ebrowski is a very, very, very competitive guy.

1059
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he he's.

1060
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 6: Going to be in the Hall of Fame one day

1061
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: for a reason. He's multiple time World Series champions, brought

1062
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 6: multiple teams to the World Series before, he's a winning executive,

1063
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: and he's a very competitive person. And I'm sure it

1064
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 6: really stung them that that that they did not land Bischett.

1065
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 6: Obviously they were rumored a little bit to be in

1066
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 6: there on on Bregman too, but it's going to create

1067
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 6: an even more interesting National League East and the Mets.

1068
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 6: I still have the Phillies a little bit ahead of them,

1069
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 6: but the Mets are closing the gap bit by bit

1070
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 6: by bringing in Bishett and now evidently Roberts. The question

1071
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 6: I still have though with Bischett is how good is

1072
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 6: he going to be at their base. I know that

1073
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 6: they they seem confident that he can handle it, but

1074
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 6: different position requires arm strength and really quick transfer. So

1075
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 6: I think these are things that both's gonna have to

1076
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 6: really really work on a lot here in the weeks

1077
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 6: before spring training and during spring training as well.

1078
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: Pope, let me just give you the immortal line from

1079
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: Billy Bean and Moneyball. His defense does not matter.

1080
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let me just let's throw that out there.

1081
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 6: Well, at some point, defense does matter, and that's why.

1082
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 6: That's why, By the way, the San Francisco Giants hired

1083
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 6: Ron Washington as their new to bring it all back

1084
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 6: to the money Ball.

1085
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: I thought he was going to throw a jab at

1086
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 5: your knicks and defense watches teaching guys how to play

1087
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 5: first base in San Francisco.

1088
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: He just watch.

1089
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: It's incredibly hard. He's on Twitter at John Morosi. He

1090
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: is the Pope, John Paul Morosi, buddy, always great talking you.

1091
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. And now, when the Mets

1092
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: trade for school, will you send me that text?

1093
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 6: Yes, I will send you that text. And by the way,

1094
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 6: what if what if we get a Knicks Pistons playoff

1095
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: series for the second straight year. I do wonder if

1096
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 6: the Detroiters are gonna win that one, based on the

1097
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 6: way the cad has been playing of late.

1098
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 7: We'll have to have it.

1099
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: We'll have to make a bet on that one.

1100
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 6: I think that we're gonna it'll be a dinner. I

1101
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 6: think dinner to the winner is that we're gonna do it.

1102
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 6: This is a nice little gentleman's gentleman's agreement there the

1103
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 6: next time I see you, next time I see you,

1104
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 6: if the if the Pistons win, your treat if if

1105
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 6: the if the Knicks win, vice versa about that.

1106
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, if if the, if the, if the Pistons win,

1107
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: my treat me. You and Harmon will go. If the

1108
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: Knicks win, it's your treat and you, me and Sterns,

1109
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: you get to go.

1110
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 6: Good plan, there we go. I got to make that

1111
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 6: happen too, so and make sure that that I'm gonna

1112
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 6: tell the network. Hey, guys, just in case I gotta

1113
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 6: take Jason and Sterns the out for dinner. We got

1114
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 6: to make sure that we do any Mets Dodgers games

1115
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 6: this year in LA. I will let the network no, all.

1116
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: Right, John Fall is always a pleasure to talk to

1117
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: my friend Datis and we'll talk to you soon.

1118
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 6: Always love catching up guys. Thanks for everything.

1119
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: Body there, He goes, I'm about break breaking baseball news,

1120
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: a trade between my team and your team, right if

1121
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: he comes on air, that's pretty good stuff.

1122
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: I like that.