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Speaker 1: Advice shooters.

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Speaker 2: No, welcome to the Naughty Beani Show. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Drubs Shooter. It's Monday, which means our dear friend, Garrett

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Speaker 2: Vogel joins us. Hey, Garrett, are.

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Speaker 1: You there, Robert? You're ready for this rob shooter? All right,

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Speaker 1: So we're on a zoom room right now and we're

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Speaker 1: recording the show, and uh, your camera's off. So I

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Speaker 1: only like to believe that you are either your makeup's

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Speaker 1: not on, or you are in the nude.

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Speaker 2: Look at that. My cameras on.

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Speaker 1: You are you will receive. You are like the great

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Speaker 1: and parafule eyes coming out from beyond the curtain, going, aha,

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Speaker 1: you are wrong. I am here, greeting friend.

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Speaker 2: Look at that. I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to hit my camera. Ah, that's why we

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Speaker 2: were a little bit late starting. You didn't see my

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Speaker 2: face pop up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was sitting there and going, you know, like

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Speaker 1: you're in the waiting room at the doctor's office and

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Speaker 1: you're just like flipping through magazines, and you know, time

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Speaker 1: goes by and it's like, well, maybe maybe the doctor

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Speaker 1: forgot about me. And then you're like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to go up to the front desk

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Speaker 1: and ask them if he's still.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, excuse me, I'm here too much longer. They're like,

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Speaker 2: you can sit back down. We know you're here. I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 2: I've got too so much gossip about one of your

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Speaker 2: favorite people in the whole wide world, Garret, I don't

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Speaker 2: know your favorite celebrity. What time is it? My friends,

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Speaker 2: so this tea time. This story was kind of shocking.

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Speaker 2: So over the weekend a massive story blew up that

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Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson Show, not Kelly Clarkson, but the show was

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Speaker 2: an alleged toxic work environment at Toxic work Culture. Kelly's

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Speaker 2: finally addressing this, she put out a statement on Instagram

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Speaker 2: she doesn't miss about when she sees there's a problem.

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Speaker 2: A lot of celebrities, including Ellen, when this happened to her,

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Speaker 2: sort of disappeared for a little bit too long. Kelly

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Speaker 2: was right out, and she said quote to find out

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Speaker 2: that anybody is feeling unheard or disrespected on the show

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Speaker 2: is unacceptable. I have always been and will continue to

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Speaker 2: be committed to creating and maintaining a safe and healthy

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Speaker 2: environment at the Kelly Clarkson Show. Just a little bit

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Speaker 2: of background here. So Rolling Stone, very reputable, put our

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Speaker 2: report on Friday that eleven current and former employees of

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Speaker 2: the show had made complaints about being overworked and underpaid,

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Speaker 2: and they went on to say that the work environment

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Speaker 2: was toxic. They did add, though, which I thought was

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Speaker 2: so interesting and very unusual on these type of stories,

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Speaker 2: that Kelly was great. They had no complaint with her.

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Speaker 2: It was all the other people on the show. Yes,

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Speaker 2: her name is on the door of the show, but

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Speaker 2: they didn't think she knew and if she was guilty

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Speaker 2: of anything, it was being in a little bubble where

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Speaker 2: very few people on the show actually really got to

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Speaker 2: talk to her, and so she wasn't aware of how

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Speaker 2: bad things actually are.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Yes, I will take the side of Kelly

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Speaker 1: Clarkson no matter what she does in life. But yes,

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Speaker 1: it does suck to hear that. Now here's here's me

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Speaker 1: looking past page one of the headlines. The show is

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Speaker 1: moving from LA to New York, and it just so

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Speaker 1: happens that this story is coming out just as people

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Speaker 1: are unfortunately losing their jobs. So it was either probably

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Speaker 1: a hey, we're moving, or a jealous jealous x you know,

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Speaker 1: a jilted lover when you know, you break up with

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Speaker 1: someone and then all of a sudden they love you

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Speaker 1: up until the moment like you guys separate and then

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Speaker 1: bad breath. Then I've just I've held that in for

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Speaker 1: so long, and i just didn't have the heart to

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Speaker 1: tell you, like like you've been working there for so long,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, this expose comes out. You.

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Speaker 1: You obviously go to Rolling Stone and say, hey, these

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Speaker 1: are the these are the conditions I'm working in. But

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Speaker 1: country to New York. That's just me, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: I'm in this business, so I'm in the gossip business,

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Speaker 2: so I know how these stories often happen, how they work.

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Speaker 2: It takes a massive event, something like a show moving

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Speaker 2: so for instance, a lot of people have just been

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Speaker 2: personally feel as if the momentous move moving to New

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Speaker 2: Their truth here right, eleven people is a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: If this was a few people who were angry or

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Speaker 2: a few people that had lost their joms. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've all lost our jobs. How often have we run

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Speaker 1: It's the entertainment business, though, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And I think we've the other thing I I've seen too,

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Speaker 1: because we've both been around celebrities and all it takes

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Speaker 1: they didn't knock Kelly Clarkson, but maybe they didn't have

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Speaker 1: they wanted to be closer to Kelly Clarkson, they didn't

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Speaker 1: get that access because of their job title, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Like if you were if you were

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Speaker 1: a show runner, you're not hanging out with Kelly Clarkson

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Speaker 1: and the executive producers. You're grabbing coffee, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. If you are a producer, you're talking to

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Speaker 1: the guest. You're not hanging out with Kelly Clarkson specifically

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're onto something, But I do also

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Speaker 2: believe that we've all worked at jobs right where there

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Speaker 2: have been bad days, And then does that make that

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Speaker 2: job toxic? Just because you have one or two, or

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Speaker 2: three or four bad days, saying the whole year you

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Speaker 2: have twenty percent bad days and eighty percent good days?

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Speaker 2: Is the show toxic? Is your work environment toxic?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Where's the line? It's very completing. I try to make

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Speaker 2: and so I make sure that every day were fair.

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Speaker 2: We try to do our best. There are days where

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Speaker 2: I'm not as happy as others. But I really think

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Speaker 2: my opinion, that's a toxic work environment.

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Speaker 1: And I shouldn't just wait till this show's over. I shooter.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we shut down this podcast, I am

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Speaker 2: You're unusual because you've been at Z one hundred pretty

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Speaker 2: much your entire work life. It's been your only job,

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Speaker 1: I went from the lifeguard stand to the radio stand.

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Speaker 2: Look at that, that's pretty great. I've had lots of

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Speaker 2: find TV in general quite a tough environment, right Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not justifying it, but I would argue here that

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Speaker 2: most TV shows are toxic. Unfortunately, They're really are high pressure.

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Speaker 2: There's lots of drama, there's lots of personalities. We've seen

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Speaker 2: the morning shd day every day. There's drama, there's pressure

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Speaker 2: to beat your competitor. There's lots of push. Kelly's show

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Speaker 2: that's new, it might not have survived. A lot of

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Speaker 2: TV shows where it's a lot of pressure. So maybe

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Speaker 2: the people on this show have not experienced to other shows,

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Speaker 2: and once they start doing that, they'll realize that maybe

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Speaker 2: the TV business isn't for them.

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Speaker 1: Right, or they realize just like a jilted lover that

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Speaker 1: the grass is greener on the other side, Kelly, are

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Speaker 1: you still open to that idea of moving to New York?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Would you?

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Speaker 2: If you were Kelly now, would you make sure everybody

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Speaker 2: that wanted to move to New York did? How do

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Speaker 2: you fix this?

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, You can't put it

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Speaker 1: all on Kelly Clarkson. That like, given her names on

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Speaker 1: the show doesn't mean she looks over every nook and cranny.

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Speaker 1: That's why you have executive producers and associate producers and

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Speaker 1: senior producers and senior this and senior like. There's so

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Speaker 1: many people here. The whole point of having those big

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Speaker 1: on Kelly. Kelly's job is to do the show and

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Speaker 1: just be and to be a great host. Everything else

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Speaker 1: is on everyone else that gets a paycheck from it.

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Speaker 2: It is it is, But is her name? People that

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Speaker 2: work in senior positions for me. I remind them all

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Speaker 2: on pretty much everything. Some such a.

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Speaker 1: Narcissist, right, Well, you know you are. I mean I

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Speaker 2: But I do like to put my names on things.

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Speaker 2: But these people I hire, they do represent me. And

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Speaker 2: so this leads us beautifully to our pole question of

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Speaker 2: the day. Kelly Clarkson is addressing a reported allegations about

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Speaker 2: a toxic work culture at her talk show. Is Kelly

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Speaker 2: ultimately responsible? It's her name that's on this stuff. It's

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Speaker 2: the Kelly Clarkson Show. Does the buck stop with her?

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Speaker 2: It's a tough question, isn't it. Hey, go vote on

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Speaker 2: our Twitter page. I'd not too nice, rob Facebook page

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Speaker 2: is naughty gossip. I'll be sure to check back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: to hear your results. Hey, Garrett, what are you working on?

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Speaker 1: All? Right? Well, since we can't afford tickets to tell

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Speaker 1: her soft, let's talk about her. So over the weekend

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Speaker 1: she had big shows. It's so smart. Taylorshift does this

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Speaker 1: brilliant thing where she only works three days a week

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Speaker 1: pretty much. She rolls into town on a Friday, reforms

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Speaker 1: on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and she took She

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Speaker 1: took the Ears Tour Era's tour to Philadelphia over the

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Speaker 1: weekend at Lincoln Financial, sold out crowd three nights. The

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Speaker 1: Swifties were crazy, and you know, just having a ticket

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Speaker 1: to sold out show and knowing that no one else

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Speaker 1: the marathon of anthems of Taylor Swift songs, she got

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Speaker 1: to bad Blood. Everybody knows it. Everybody goes crazy. It's

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Speaker 1: probably one of the crescendos of the of the show,

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Speaker 1: and fans started coming up to the stage where there

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Speaker 1: was a barricade the stage. It's huge, it takes up

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Speaker 1: the whole football stadium. And Taylor noticed that some of

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Speaker 1: the fans that were trying to get as close as possible.

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Speaker 1: And during the song. It takes a lot for Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift to notice something in a freaking stadium. She tells

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Speaker 1: the security guard, hey, stop during the song, like, so

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Speaker 1: there's dancing going on there, there's people playing. Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: a naughtice the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty. Apparently the knives

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