WEBVTT - Five Things About the 2025 Ryder Cup with Kevin Van Valkenburg

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<v Speaker 2>we've got our Ryder Cup preview today, so we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>five things about the Ryder Cup and we are joined

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<v Speaker 2>by new Friday Golf staff member Kevin van Valkenberg. Kevin,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to have on full time. He will be

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<v Speaker 2>contributing a ton after a long career in sports journalism.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be contributing a ton to our written, video and

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<v Speaker 2>podcast forms of content. So it's awesome to have Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>on for this Ryder Cup preview. We will be doing

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<v Speaker 2>our five things and excited to kind of break down

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<v Speaker 2>the Ryder Cup. We've got it. It kicks off on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday of next week. Beth Page Black, big sturdy golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we know what beth Page entails. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a course where distances is really rewarded. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>setup will be an interesting conversation early in the week

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what it entails. But I'm guessing that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to opt. If I was the US team,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd opt for a little bit shorter rough just because

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<v Speaker 2>the distance, I think advantage goes to Europe a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and the shorter the rough you have, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>better chance for shorter hitters who have to hit longer

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<v Speaker 2>approaches out of said rough is So I would look

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<v Speaker 2>at that as kind of the setup key. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>benign around the greens, so you know, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing if you can get it up around the

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<v Speaker 2>greens and you have a half decent short game. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get tested a ton around the greens.

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<v Speaker 2>The test really comes around the length, the size and

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<v Speaker 2>hitting shots up to elevated greens from long distances. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be very curious how they set this golf course up.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we get to Kevin, one big thing that

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<v Speaker 2>full time, as we had the release the pre order

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<v Speaker 2>we're turning ten in December this year. It's kind of crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is a collection of golf courses that personally

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<v Speaker 2>and as well as golf courses that were you know

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett rode up and Post Tiempo is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you to everybody for all the support over

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<v Speaker 2>the ten year mark. You know, I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool and a lot of great courses visited

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you to everybody that's pre ordered it already

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<v Speaker 2>this week. So thanks, and let's get to Kevin van

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<v Speaker 2>Valkenberg and the Ryder Cup. All right, we're here the

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<v Speaker 2>forty fifth playing of the Ryder Cup. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a it's been a home team game for

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<v Speaker 2>the last few years, and I think I think this

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<v Speaker 2>year there's some optimism as it's probably the best European

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<v Speaker 2>team that we've seen playing away Ryder Cup in a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Uh. And for this five things A welcome

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<v Speaker 2>on Frida Egg member Frida Egg Golf team member Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>van Valkenberg. Kevin, welcome on.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy, what a pleasure to be here. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for the kind and generous introduction.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be on site next week at the UH

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<v Speaker 2>at the Ryder Cup in beth Page. We'll be uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be hammering, hammering the ground out there, uh, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up on all the scuttle but but let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to our five things preview. Obviously, this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the last big event of the year if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't include the hero World Challenge. But this is uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of the last windfall. So obviously everything

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<v Speaker 2>gets magnified when it's in New York because New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 2>love to talk about how it's the biggest and best

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what it is when it's there. Uh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is uh, this is I. You know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a long week of prep. But what's

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<v Speaker 2>your first thing that you're looking forward to or your

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<v Speaker 2>storyline to watch for this year's Ryder Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Any do you think we are doing these in importance

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<v Speaker 1>of least important to most important or just like random.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to go wherever you want, and usually I

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<v Speaker 2>will weave mine into whatever you say. Okay, well, sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>as as astute guest point out, I usually will get

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<v Speaker 2>more than five things in. But it's my podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>I get I get to play by my own rule.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true. This is true. Well, since it is

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast, I wanted to start with something close to

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<v Speaker 1>your heart. Chicago's face favorite golfer, Matt Fitzpatrick. I matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's been a horrendous Ryder Cup player. I can vividly

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<v Speaker 1>remember North watching Western alums favorite you know, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>not Chicago's not fully claiming him because I heard, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like big parade in Chicago for him, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's all the spin off. Northwestern had this

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<v Speaker 2>ad slogan years ago that they called Chicago's Big ten team,

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<v Speaker 2>which obviously, you know, as as a graduate of the

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<v Speaker 2>state school, that really chapped a lot of people's asses.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like the university, this small, little private

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<v Speaker 2>school is Chicago's Big ten team, not the giant state university.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure certainly the snottiest journalism program in the country. Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this narrowly edging out Syracuse as the snottiest

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<v Speaker 1>program in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse alum producer PJ. You can't talk on this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>is is cheering in the background as Syracuse was not

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<v Speaker 2>labeled this is not viest.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two. All right, So Matpis Patrick. I can vividly

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<v Speaker 1>remember the twenty sixteen Ryder Cup, my first Ryder Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking around kind of late Thursday afternoon and

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<v Speaker 1>Matthews Patrick had found a hole all by himself where

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<v Speaker 1>he was just like pounding drivers, like over and over

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<v Speaker 1>because he was trying to get away from the watchful

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<v Speaker 1>eye of the hateful media. He was struggling big time.

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<v Speaker 1>He was nervously, you know, trying to figure out driver.

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<v Speaker 1>His brother had written that letter basically calling out the

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<v Speaker 1>ugly Americans, and all the pressure was on him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did not play well. He did not play well

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<v Speaker 1>in Whistling. I think you can argue that he played

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of okay, except for one match in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>I's one in seven in three Ryder Cups played. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was probably the last guy on the

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<v Speaker 1>team basically to be one of Luke Donald's guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you'd probably rather have Alex Norrin if you're Luke Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want to see, like, what does FITZI do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not exactly like the player that he was a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. Is the results have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been not there. And I love it when somebody gets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to be the sort of, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that the American crowd really rags on, really feels

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<v Speaker 1>like they can rattle. And I'm afraid that FITZI might

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<v Speaker 1>be that dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not dove into all time Ryder Cup records,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is one and seven on his career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was like a landmark event in Rome

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<v Speaker 2>that he won a point because he had not won,

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<v Speaker 2>he had not contributed to anything even a half point

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<v Speaker 2>to that date. I don't think he's going to play

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, okay, but I will say I think he

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<v Speaker 2>played quite well to earn a spot on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look through really the back really since the PGA,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been one of the most consistent players in the world. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>pre PGA, he was very bad. He was in a

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<v Speaker 2>bad place, And I do think like I think like

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about traits a lot with Ryder Cup players.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about the Ryder Cup a ton, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, it's one week and it's

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<v Speaker 2>three days of golf, and golf's like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most variable sports in the world. Some weeks you have it,

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<v Speaker 2>some weeks you don't have it. And as I've thought

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<v Speaker 2>about this more, I think, like you obviously have like

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<v Speaker 2>skills that you can take advantage, especially especially in like

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<v Speaker 2>alternate shot with pairing players to amplify them. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, like what you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>want is a team of guys that have like a

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<v Speaker 2>high floor in the sense of this guy's really can

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<v Speaker 2>assistant and I generally know what I get weekend week out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think like Fitzy the back half of this

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<v Speaker 2>year has been a very high floor guy. Now, did

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<v Speaker 2>he win anything, did he have any landmark finishes? No,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you go look at his results from from

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<v Speaker 2>the PGA, it is just jam chalk full of top

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<v Speaker 2>ten finishes. And I think, like, I didn't expect to

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<v Speaker 2>be making a case for mass Fitzpatrick, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you want out of your your team, is

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<v Speaker 2>you want guys that you generally know what you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get from him. And I'm curious. I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 2>see how much he plays. But if he has a

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<v Speaker 2>bad if he has a bad ryder Cup, say he

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<v Speaker 2>goes oh and three or oh and two, then that

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<v Speaker 2>record it just becomes, you know, a music anecdote of

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<v Speaker 2>Fitzy two is I was walking around at Whistlake Straits

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the afternoon that JT chugged the beer beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, was half chugged a beer. I mean, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't really chug it.

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<v Speaker 2>FITZI was like very pissed off about that sick. He

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<v Speaker 2>was not playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he was very.

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<v Speaker 2>Upset, so just you know, an anecdote, like he does

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<v Speaker 2>get fired up, but he was. He was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>talking just out loud to whoever wanted to hear it,

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<v Speaker 2>about about the absurdity of them chugging beer on the tee.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. What a featherweight pillow fight that would be between

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them. You know, I'm not sure we're

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<v Speaker 1>topping out at three hundred pounds between the two of them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Data Golf had Fitz. He fell to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fourth in their rankings in the world this year now

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back up to eight. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really trending in the right direct.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I guess I'll go there with with my

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<v Speaker 2>next one. I think the last I like to think

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<v Speaker 2>about this as the last time the US hosted the

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<v Speaker 2>Ryder Cup. You were there, right, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Not there the last time I was. I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>married that day. In fact. Yeah, so my wedding anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>coming up again during this Ryder Cup. I was foolish

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<v Speaker 1>enough to always have my wedding anniversary be on Ryder

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<v Speaker 1>Cup weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Valid excuse. I went with the Labor Day so it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good you know, nothing really happens on Labor Day.

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<v Speaker 2>The I think I always like to think about him

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<v Speaker 2>in that kind of four year window, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things is, like we left twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>like is Europe dead? Is there any way this competition

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<v Speaker 2>could go on? The US team was so stacked, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about, like what the difference between this

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<v Speaker 2>US team and twenty twenty one US team was. You

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<v Speaker 2>had like DJ and Brooks at their peak of powers.

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<v Speaker 2>More Cow was like a standout player. Scotti Scheffler was

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<v Speaker 2>the last guy on the team. But then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden in the Ryder Cup, you were like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, look at this guy. And really like you

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the roster and you're like, Harris English is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be gone, but like nobody else is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be gone for a long time now, Harris English

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<v Speaker 2>might be might be like the third best player on

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<v Speaker 2>the US team.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to hear that you thought Speith would be

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<v Speaker 1>there as a generational guy that you're you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>confident that he'd just be a stalwart on Ryder Cup

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<v Speaker 1>teams for years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But you looked at the European team and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>who is going to be on this team? And old, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of old guys. But then in

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<v Speaker 2>particular Lowry, Fleetwood and Hatton were not necessarily lighting the

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<v Speaker 2>world on fire. Hatton was kind of at the early

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<v Speaker 2>stages of becoming a you know, world class player. Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>fleet Will would was not the same self that he

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<v Speaker 2>was at in France at a Golf National, he had

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<v Speaker 2>taken a step back. Ye, Shane Lowry was a good

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<v Speaker 2>but very inconsistent player. Big shot Bob had not come

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<v Speaker 2>on the scene. And at Rome you're kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy he was, I think he was ranked like

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<v Speaker 2>fiftieth in the world, fifty fifth in the world, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fortieth, and the Data Golf rankings at Rome

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, this guy's not a Ryder Cup player.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at it now, you know, Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>Fleetwood in the Data Golf rankings is third in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>six in the official World Golf rankings. He's been outside

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<v Speaker 2>of probably Scotty, the most consistent player in the world

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<v Speaker 2>this year. You look at Bob McIntyre and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>astounding to see his progression. He's ninth in the world

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<v Speaker 2>rankings twentieth and Data Golf, Like, you think about the

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<v Speaker 2>market improvement of them over the years. They've added Ludwig

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<v Speaker 2>Obert to this group, who's a world class player, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Victor Hoveland and obviously More and Rory are constant. Shane Lowry,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, has just become a more consistent world class

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<v Speaker 2>player over this time. And Terrell Hatton has been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously he's obscured by live but he's been one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best players in the world in twenty twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So you start to look at it and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a huge improvement from guys that you did not

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<v Speaker 2>know what they were going to be and don't like

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily jump off the page because of other worldly traits

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<v Speaker 2>as studs, the addition of a few young players, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, this team when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>it on paper and we've never really I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember any time in my life that we said

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<v Speaker 2>this is pretty much a dead equal to the US team, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's that's an amazing thing. Like we've

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<v Speaker 2>never had one of these contested where you look at

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<v Speaker 2>it on paper and you're like, these teams are equal,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where we're at that for this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue two thousand and six, like Europeans, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe two thousand and four that time, that the

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<v Speaker 1>Europeans probably should have been favored, even if they weren't,

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<v Speaker 1>those are probably better teams when you got like Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Riley and you know, Steve Pate and Brett Watric and

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature on the US team, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're right like it. It's truly I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that would bring us andy to if I'm allowed. My

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<v Speaker 1>next one that I had this item on the list

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<v Speaker 1>is I think Rory continues to be the needle in

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff and slapping the table in Italy a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and saying we're gonna win in beth Page.

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<v Speaker 1>Rory has been the Ryder Cup story of my golfing

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<v Speaker 1>media lifetime. He was the story in sixteen, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't win. He you know, shushing the crowd back

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<v Speaker 1>and he's saying I can't hear you and then bowing

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<v Speaker 1>after that eagle, and you know, he was the story

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<v Speaker 1>two years later, you know, and he didn't play amazing

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<v Speaker 1>in Paris, but he was sort of still the emotional

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<v Speaker 1>lightning rod for that team, and you know he was

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<v Speaker 1>bad and whistling. He would be the first sell. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make a birdie an entire match in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>four ball, which is crazy. You know, he was crying afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>like of how much it meant to him to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of go off first and be restore some pride. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he beat Xander that day. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited for him to like the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>essentially flip the script in this like if you called

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<v Speaker 1>your shot two years ago that you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>win a Ryder Cup on foreign soil, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>went out and did it because you played great, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be an unbelievable like, you know, sort of Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Messier being like, I guarantee we're gonna win the series.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know Pj's nodding at this as a Rangers guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but that would mean, like I think, a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>golf history. If that clip got played over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, we're gonna win a beth Page and

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<v Speaker 1>then they did win in beth Page, like that would

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cement Rory's Ryder Cup legacy for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's been I would say a pretty good if

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<v Speaker 2>you especially if you take whistling straights out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think he was just in a bad spot

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<v Speaker 2>in his career. I mean that was he was basically

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<v Speaker 2>like the fifteenth rank player in the world that week,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like, that's about as low as he's been

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<v Speaker 2>in sixteen seventeen years playing pro golf. If you take

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<v Speaker 2>that out of it, he's been just such a good

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<v Speaker 2>Ryder Cup player. Obviously he won the way one within Madina.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like the greater aspect of this is like

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<v Speaker 2>when you zoom out and if they go on to

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<v Speaker 2>win this Ryder Cup away, and you zoom out and

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<v Speaker 2>you look at his year and you know, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Scotty Scheffler's been the best player in the world, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to say it's a better year than somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who goes and wins, you know, Pebble Beach. Of course,

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 2>he hadn't won it at It's like you add your

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<v Speaker 2>name to the list of people that have won a

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<v Speaker 2>Pebble Beach in a signature event, he wins another player's,

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<v Speaker 2>he wins the Masters and completes the Grand Slam, he

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<v Speaker 2>wins the Irish Open, and then if he wins an

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<v Speaker 2>away Ryder Cup. It's just it's a sensational year. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know Scotty has won two majors, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>probably still say that Scotty's year is better from the

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<v Speaker 2>sense of just pure golf. But in terms of of wins, stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Narra emotional wins, yeah, like emotional impact on the like

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<v Speaker 1>the history of your career, like in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I think I might take Rory, yes, like

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<v Speaker 1>either of those. A Ryder Cup, I mean, just was

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<v Speaker 1>the players even as like more impactful than Scotty's PGA win,

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<v Speaker 1>like in some ways, you know, I mean I could

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument that it was like certainly like a

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<v Speaker 1>stronger field the players, right, Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh yeah, it's so. I think Rory is just

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting and the last time we saw him on

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<v Speaker 2>American soil, he was bad, and that adds a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in his journey just through this year where he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of he was great at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>the Masters hits, he wins, he then hits this little complacency.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like I'm always amazed at how just normal

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Rory is. Like that's kind of like the way any

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<v Speaker 2>normal behaves, like if a salesperson got to close it

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal, you know what they do for the

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<v Speaker 2>next two months as they kind of just hang out.

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Rory goes into this lull. He doesn't play well and

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<v Speaker 2>then it's like the Ryder Cups coming back around. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a bad FedEx Cup playoffs, but all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>then it's just the game's coming back and he's playing

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<v Speaker 2>as good as golf as anybody in the world now

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<v Speaker 2>heading in outside of Scottie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just fun right. He makes every Ryder Cup interesting

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<v Speaker 1>with you know how emotional he gets into it. How

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he gives great quotes. He's he just lives

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<v Speaker 1>and breathes for it, which is funny after you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he would be the first to sort of call himself

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot for saying it. But like way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it was like it's an exhibition. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean much to me. And then when he finally played

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>in one, like it just overwhelmed his senses in every way.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to somebody that I don't know if either

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<v Speaker 2>of them are on each other's Christmas cards list. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Bryson to Shambo. He's He's on.

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<v Speaker 1>My list, tell me more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fascinated by this, and I guess I'm going to

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 2>put to two of these together, two of mine together.

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<v Speaker 2>Will the best Americans play the most is a big question,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the players the figures of this that

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<v Speaker 2>center on is Bryson to Shambo, the the American team

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<v Speaker 2>has has rightly been criticized as a boy's club. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that is that is a fair criticism critique. Zach

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson's captaincy did not help that. But you know, Bryson is,

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<v Speaker 2>without a doubt not in the boys club. He's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he ever will be in the boys club.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say that quantitatively, he is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the Americans' best players, particularly at Bethpage Black, a golf

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 2>course that really rewards power and has enough space where

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 2>he can really just kind of blast it around. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is like if we were playing a major championship

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<v Speaker 2>at beth Page tomorrow. I think you can make the

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<v Speaker 2>case that that Bryson would be like Favorite one A

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>or B. You know, you put Scotty there and then

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Bryson would be right there because of the way the

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>course fits his game. YEP, I think Bryson will play

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 2>best ball. I am really curious to see if he

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 2>will play alternate shot. And furthermore, like, if you go

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<v Speaker 2>down the list of American players and their forms, I

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 2>think that you're looking at a situation where like almost

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<v Speaker 2>you take Scotty and then the best players on the

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>American team in terms of their form and how they're

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 2>playing are like Ben Griffin, A J. Spawn Harris, English,

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 2>Russell Henley. It's not JT. It's not more COWI And like,

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<v Speaker 2>my question is are the best players going to play

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 2>the most or are we going to fall into this

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>trap of names and experience when what matters most is

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>who's playing well to a certain extent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and this is maybe it's a slightly related point,

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>but that over time us Ryder cup captains as someone

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>who's like looked at a lot of this stuff and

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.239
<v Speaker 1>lived through some of it, have made the mistake of

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to like spread out the good players, be like oh,

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Tiger has to play with like an aging Paul Aisinger,

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>or like Mark Calkovekia, or like oh we got to

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>sit fill with like David Toms, or let's put you know,

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>David Devall with you know, Chad Campbell or something absurded,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think, honestly, I would seriously consider saying to Scotty,

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 1>how would you like to do like three sessions with Bryson.

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's just go out there and like the two of you,

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I think can get me three points because you can

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>get three points out of that the two of them,

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Like that's I wouldn't worry as much about like, Okay, well,

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 1>let's I would be like, I got two horses right here,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Let's play them a lot. Scotty's good, like this personality

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is fine enough to get along with Bryson, this idea

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that like they couldn't play alternate shot together because they're

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>not best buddies, Like the heck with that? Why ry did?

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'd rather have Bryson playing with Scotty than Sam

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Burns and Scotty like I'm I'm had a huge advantage

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>hitting you know, Scotty hitting wedges into like some of

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>these holes at beth Page like because Bryson's just drove

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it three eighty. I would absolutely like lean on Bryson

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>as much as I could basically be like, you know what,

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I think you're the one of the four best players

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>in the world like it's it's basically Rory, you, Rom

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and Scotty let's go out and then just put the

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>pedal down and ride you like a horse man, because

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the kind of course where you could absolutely

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like dominate and I wouldn't worry about like the fussiness

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:06.479
<v Speaker 1>of the personality stuff.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I could see the Scottie Bryson best ball pairing work

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>really well. I might look at a different pairing for

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Scott for Bryson as a as an alt shot pairing,

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>like I'd be looking, you know, like the russ Henley

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Scotti allt shot pairings work really well because Russell Henley

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>hits a lot of fairways, and it's like, you give

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 2>Scotty Scheffler the opportunity to hit from the fairway. His

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 2>four iron is better than most guys seven irons. With Bryson,

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I think like you have the opportunity to give somebody

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:43.479
<v Speaker 2>wedges into elevated targets that's probably used to hitting like

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>mid irons into these targets. And the alternate shot pairing

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>like Bryson opens up, it unlocks a all and I

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>just I'm really I don't know if they're going to

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>play him alternate shot. I could see a world where

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>they just don't play them alternate shot, and I think

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a mistake. I think like, if you look at

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that US team, Harris English is one of your probably

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>best weapons just because of the consistency what you you know,

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 2>what you're getting from him. He had one of the

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>best seasons on tour. You know, JJ Spond's not going

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a sexy name. It's not going to get

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>the New York fans riled up like Justin Thomas. But

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>guess what. JJ Spond's been like an unequivocally better golfer

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the last six months than Justin Thomas has been, and

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>especially at a golf course that rewards some sort of

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>driving acumen, you know j T has been he just

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>hits balls that you know, are he hits one or

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>two drives around that seemingly just derails his tournaments. And

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 2>in a matchplay format, like if you hit some t

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 2>shots that just automatically lose holes, that's kind of a

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>disaster and that's what you're trying to avoid when you're

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>playing these matches.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with that. I would say, uh, I,

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just think like with the alternate shot thing.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Bryson wants to be liked by people who he's around.

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Like this idea that Bryson is kind of an annoying

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>or pisses everyone, if that might be true, but he's

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>going to try really hard for whomever he is paired

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>with to sort of make it work. And so, like

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Justin Thomas and Bryson don't particularly like each other, from

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>my understanding, I still think Bryson would try so fricking

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>hard to be like Justin Thomas's like Ryder cup buddy,

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, he would absolutely love giving JT. Wedges

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>into a bunch of holes, and I just I would

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>play him an alternate shot too, for sure.

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I honestly like that Whistling Straits was kind of a

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 2>landslide mm hmm. But I have to say, like Bryson,

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Bryson injected so much energy into the American team with

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>his t shots.

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be even more so. He's gonna treat every

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>hole like an amphitheater. I think he's gonna get people

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>like He's gonna be waving his arms and pumping his

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>fist and all the the Bryson hard o's are going

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to be there, like doing push ups in the behind

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the ropes and you know, jumping on each other's shoulders

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and backs and down in beers.

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>You know who's whose far fourball pairing was at Whistling Straits.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Was it Scottie?

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>It was?

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>So he only played four ball.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know what the reluctance is to play him.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean he I guess he played alternate shot with

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Phil in uh in Italy. But yes, France.

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I can't wait to read your your whole Ryder

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Cup Captains that's going to come out Tuesday. You ranked

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>all the last fourteen Ryder Cup captains.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I have, yes, bring you. David loved twice.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Davis loved twice the idea of pairing Bryson and Phil

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>who Phil like unequivocally didn't have it that week and

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>everybody new pairing them an alternate shot at a water

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>heavy golf course, So a golf course where there's water everywhere.

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>It was one of the worst captive's decisions of all time.

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Correct. I I think Furich's bad captaincy is sort of

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>underrated in its badness because most people like Furick and like,

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to admit like how disastrous like three

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>of his captain's picks didn't win a single match. Tony

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Finow was his best captain's pick. It's truly like that's

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Tom Watson territory, you know, And I

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>mean that I you know, I won't spoil what it is,

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>but like, you know, Zach's Ryder Cup captaincy, I think

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>is even though it's really close to us, it's almost

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>underrated in its badness in terms of how terrible it was.

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Just vibes were horrendous, motivation, horrendous, boys club stuff, horrendous.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>The Americans have really like they had some amazing captains

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>doing how Sutton, Tom Watson, Zach Johnson, Jim Furick. It's

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>even like you know, Curtis Strange and Corey Paven made

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>some like really dumb ass decisions. It's it's incredible.

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>The I also like, I think that the Americans, and

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't want this to come across necessarily

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 2>the wrong way, But there's just like more narcissistic assholes

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 2>that tend to tend to be on the American Ryder

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Cup team, which lends themselves to bore drama. Yes, like

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 2>the idea, Like I'm actually like amazed when you interview

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>or talk to these players about like athletics growing up,

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>how many how many golfers say like I picked golf

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't have to rely on teammates. Like that's

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>like a.

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Anther one the draft pick. In terms of reasons why

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>they decided to do it.

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Often it's so you hear that so often, I.

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Didn't play well with others, so I decided to go golf.

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>So then you have this event where they don't ever

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 2>play with others, and then you bring them together and

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>they have to play as a team, and the captain

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>gets blamed no matter what, which which is amazing.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>If you look back at the last twenty five years

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>or so and you try to think of like European

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Ryder Cup controversies, like they got destroyed in Whistling and

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 1>in Hazeltine, and they didn't like knife their captains at all.

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Like the only captain that they ever truly shout on

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>was Faldo, and that was because in part because Faldo

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>was like went on the broadcast and said, oh, Sergio

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>got dumped by Greg Norman's daughter that week, so he

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>was worthless and there was just no point in having

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>him out there and Sergio was rightfully like pissed, like

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Faldo is the only guy that they ever hated.

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Should they have brought Sergio in as an ass captain.

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, I would have sort of listened to like

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Justin and Rory on that and basically said, if you

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>think that he will be helpful to us, like you've

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>played on a lot of Ryder Cup teams with him,

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>then we'll I'll go ahead and do it. But otherwise,

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not interested in And I think the good

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>thing too, is that it's not like Luke isn't you know,

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>he played on a lot of teams of Sergio, so

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he knows like whether he would add anything or if

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it just be you know, a nuisance or a whiner.

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could make a case I think that Sergio,

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, would be that that someday Sergio when wounds

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of heal a little bit, that Sergio definitely should

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>be a Ryder Cup captain, And so you'd want him

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be involved in a lot of this stuff.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But it's almost like by not bringing him around, they're

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>saying like, yeah, we don't think this is ever really

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna these riffs are ever really gonna heal like.

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, he uh. I could see him as an

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>assistant captain, just getting getting into kerfuffles on the sidelines. Yeah,

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it would be kind of amazing.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Him and Kevin Kissner are like sticking a finger in

0:35:58.640 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>each other's face.

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Will go bro probably just arguing about Texas Georgia football.

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Probably not much of an argument there these days. Man,

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, My next one would be what version of

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Victor Holind are we going to see Victor Hobblin? Well,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the last time we had a Ryder Cup was probably

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the best player in the world for that like brief

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, two or three month period came off just

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a dominant performance in the FedEx Cup. Was all of

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.879
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, had a really really good, really credible short

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>game very first hole of his Ryder Cup comes out

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and has that amazing chip in that basically just like

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>gets the crowd going bonkers, sets the tone for that

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>entire Ryder Cup. You know, he's part of that just

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>historical ass kicking of Scottie and Brooks with Ludwig. Will

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that Victor Hovelin be you know, or I don't think that.

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't think we'll see that Victor Hoblin because it's

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>just that was kind of like the peak of his powers.

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Everything about his swing was kind of in that moment

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and he had to kind of break it down and

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>rebuild it because he's Victor Hobland. But I think that,

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's trending, he's trending upwards. He's not one

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>of the sort of I would say, certainly not one

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of the five best players in the world, probably not

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>one of the ten best players in the world. But

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>he's played a lot better in the last four months

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>than he did the previous you know, six to eight months,

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.439
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm you know, he's someone who cares about

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, who who has lived in the cauldron. Anythink

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>he went three and one in Italy, and but he

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>was bad and Whistling. So like what happens if we

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>get the version that we saw, you know at Whistling

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>where he just wasn't really worth much. He was completely

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't have it that week, And I think that's a

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>be a big key the Europeans are going to pull

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>off an upset, they need Hobland to be good.

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think at Whistley Straits he was such

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>a young pop at that point, right, you could see, okay,

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 2>this this kid's going to be here for a long time.

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 2>But he's also this getting just thrown into the ring

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 2>of fire, and he was like one of it felt

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>like one of the few Europeans that week that could

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>really like keep up with some of these guys, the Americans.

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>He had that modern style of play versus you know,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>watching Westy out there.

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I know that must have been tough for you.

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>It was I brought I went out and watched like

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>the last few holes of his his singles match, after

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the after the tournament of the competition was over, brought

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>him in. I think he have that match. I think

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>he ended his Ryder Cup career with the half. He

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 2>was getting questions about being a captain.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you should be a captain?

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, the one thing you know about Westy is that

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>he won't be reading any like books on war strategy

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>since he's he's always proud of the fact that he's

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>never read never read a book.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>One of my all time favorite anecdotes.

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 2>So he's not gonna your captain, that's you know. I

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>honestly think he could. He has the potential to be

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>like analytics. No, don't get out of here.

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Another Faldo captaincy would be sweet.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.439
<v Speaker 2>I could see it though, you know, as as Wound's heel,

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 2>you know that. I mean, it's like a fascinating aspect

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 2>of the European team, is what happened to this captaincy

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>because like the surefire captains were Sergio Poulter Westwood. Obviously

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Stenson was selected and then left like where what Who's

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>next for them? Rory has been vocally opposed to being

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 2>a playing captain, but if he continues to be a

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>high level player for the Europeans into his late forties,

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>which is totally feasible, maybe he eventually becomes one. But

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I think with Hoveland, you know, the vibes were so

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 2>good last year. He was coming in off of a

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a you know, the FedEx Cup win. He paired up

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 2>with fellow young Scandinavian player Ludwig who also was playing

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>great golf, you know, saying the world on fire early

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 2>in his career to get selected for the team, and

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 2>you kind of look at it and it's like, well

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>like they were nails, and I think like that's something

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>that I think, like they're going to be paired together again.

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>In their matches together, they they went too and one

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 2>they lost to Burns and more Kawa and four ball.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 2>But you have to think that I to me, like,

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 2>and I like that you selected Holand like Hobland and Ludwig.

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 2>If those guys play well, I think Europe can win.

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they can win if they don't play well.

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's correct. And and like you know,

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm always as a sort of lover of the Ryder

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Cup searching for like those guys who can just pair

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>together forever, like well, find another like sevy And and

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>jose Maria. And so it would be fun like if

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>that was like the Scandinavian version of that, Like if

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>we just saw Levig and Hoblin like play together for

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>ten years, how fun would that be? That was supposed

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to be Speith and JT and Speth kind of you know,

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>let us down in that sense. Uh So I want

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>more of those kind of like classic pairings. We're like,

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:29.399
<v Speaker 1>all right, well, these guys are going to read it's

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>true that JT.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Swooped in and stole piece partner.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, it's a little sad to me that

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>we're now this is the third Rider Cup cycle without

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Reed, Like you know, he made the event fun,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>even when he was like being a total uh, you know,

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>clown in France.

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Just think of think about the President's Cup at Royal

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Melbourne without him. Yeah, he had done that. He had

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 2>done the shovel incident the week before and then Kessler

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 2>punched punched a fan.

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bring back, bring back Captain America. He should be

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>an assistant captain. Andy. Let's Sergio and Reid sort of

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.879
<v Speaker 1>you know playing They should play in the celebrity match

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>before that would be great.

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>A way you could ensure that you get a playing

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>captain would be to pick Patrick Reid as the captain.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Sure, why not?

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.239
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<v Speaker 2>next one is Colin Morikawa. Okay, I think throughout his

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 2>career he's been a he's been an incredible Ryder Cup player.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 2>And why he's been an incredible Ryder Cup player is

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>that the guy up until this year has been a

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 2>generational iron player and in match play, I think just

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>in match play in general. The thing that can rip

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 2>another an opponent's heard out more than anything is just

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 2>approaches that make you feel like you never have a chance.

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 2>It's what Scotty can do to you. It's what Marikawa

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 2>up until this year was doing with regularity. It's where God,

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter where he is. And I think one

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 2>of the things with Mari Kawa and his lack of

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 2>distance that that is interesting with with match play is

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 2>he's hitting first into greens and he's applying pressure with

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 2>his other worldly, you know, generational talent of iron play.

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Calin Markawa is by his career and I think like

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 2>it's important to just note he set an unbelievable standard

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 2>of play since he's turned pro, where he's been one

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 2>of the most consistent great players in the game of golf.

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 2>But this year he's been bad. He has not been good.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 2>He's thirty one in the Data Golf rankings, and you know,

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>he's seen a dip in his approach play and I

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>think like he you know, he's been one. You know

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:06.800
<v Speaker 2>that that pairing of DJ and Morikawa was so stout

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 2>at Whistling Straits the last time around, and he's just

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 2>been kind of this this player that you know when

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.800
<v Speaker 2>you talk about high floor players, like we mentioned earlier

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>in the year, he's been like effectively like you're just

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 2>put him out and you know what you're getting. And

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 2>this is the first year going into this where you

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 2>don't really know what you're getting from him. And I think,

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 2>like the US team, I'm just curious how much he

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>plays and if he's got it, I think they're going

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 2>to be really hard to beat. But if he because

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 2>like you're talking about a player that could be a

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Scotti tier player, maybe not all the way to Scotti,

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 2>but he can have that type of impact you could

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 2>put about in any format and you know he's going

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>to fit in like a glove with anybody because he

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 2>drives the ball in the fairway and he hits approaches

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.280
<v Speaker 2>close right Like that is That's what you're a dream

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 2>alternate shot pairing player is. And I just think that

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 2>if it goes south, like if he's not playing well,

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 2>that US team is not as it just as a

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>big hole in that US team because they don't have

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 2>many guys that hit irons the way he does.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could see like with the course set up

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>at Whistling that they were basically like we're better long

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 1>iron players than you, and like DJ and Brooks and

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Colin are gonna be like flagging six irons

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>on some of these like two hundred yard par threes.

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And if you think you can beat us, great, but

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.280
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be just better. And you know, I specifically remember,

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.760
<v Speaker 1>like that's Saturday, like how good he and DJ were

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.800
<v Speaker 1>like just you know, going at some of those pins

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>from long ways away, and the Euros just didn't have

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that same kind of firepower. And so you're right, like

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what Beth Page is right. It's you're gonna

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have yard approaches that are one hundred and ninety yards

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty five yards somewhere and there, and uh,

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.399
<v Speaker 1>you know to elevateds. Like if Colin is that dude again,

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 1>then I think you're right, Like it's Americans really going

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to be tough to beat. My next one, I think,

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a pretty important one, Andy, is

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>how rowdy will the crowd be? We've been talking about

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 1>this sort of Beth Paige Ryder Cup for I mean

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>almost ten years. I mean I remember Brooks saying how

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>badly he wanted to be a part of that when

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.879
<v Speaker 1>he wanted beth Page because he was basically like, oh, yeah,

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be out of control. It's going to

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 1>be like a real true sporting event, like now was

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>that before he found out the ticket prices were like

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>thirteen hundred dollars a man, Like, you know, maybe, but

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I still think there's going to be a lot of

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, home field advantage does really matter. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the course set up is part of it. But the

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:52.479
<v Speaker 1>energy that the crowd brings to match play and how

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 1>hard it is to silence those people if the other

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 1>team is playing well is a real thing. And so

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>will we get like we'll you know, even at that

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>PGA at beth Page, some of the behavior sort of

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:09.399
<v Speaker 1>spilled over where they had it We're kicking people out

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and people were acting like knuckleheads. I am very curious

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to see if it goes over the line because there

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of players on the European team who

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>tend to have kind of rabbit ears, whether it's Justin Rose,

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Terrel Hatton, whether it's John Rahm, even Rory,

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Like they hear the things that the crowds have to say,

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think the crowds.

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Will be headsets, that's right.

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 1>What we might have truly like being in a dark

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 1>place and where people wearing VR headsets were having people

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 1>scream obscenities in their ears and say horrible things about

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 1>their family that they have to train for that in

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:52.240
<v Speaker 1>anticipation of a sporting event. So I am very curious

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>because if the Euros get up, if they you know,

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>if they have some success in you know, say, you know,

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the foursomes like they often do well they haven't so

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 1>much in the US, will that start of mute the

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 1>crowd a little bit? And if if the US takes

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in an early kind of swing man like it could

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 1>be running downhill fast like that, it could snowball, and

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:14.280
<v Speaker 1>that any chance of an upset could be really tough

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:15.359
<v Speaker 1>for the Euros.

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get those those roars. I I match play

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 2>more than you know stroke play. I think it's just

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 2>such a momentum thing, Like you know, everybody says like,

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 2>oh play this just like you would play a normal

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 2>stroke play event. It's just not possible. You're worried about

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:36.720
<v Speaker 2>what other people are doing.

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>It's why Tiger was not a great Ruyder Cup player,

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>because he played it just like it was a stroke

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>play event. He didn't make mistakes, but he didn't take

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of chances, and you know, guys got up

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to play him, and it's just you know, Tiger was

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a was the greatest stroke player player of his generation,

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 1>if not every generation, and that wasn't the right mentality

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to take to Ruyder Cups.

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I I would ask this question, It's one of my

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 2>last thing here. Does this need to be a competitive

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.959
<v Speaker 2>Ryder Cup? Does the Ryder Cup need a competitive Ryder Cup?

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Because if you go back through kind of the archives,

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Speaker 2>the last competitive like where on Sunday anything can happen,

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.879
<v Speaker 2>and it was a huge comeback Ryder Cup was Madina.

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 2>The last one that was really tight, you know going

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 2>into Sunday was twenty I think twenty ten at Celtic

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:29.360
<v Speaker 2>manor yeah.

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Eight to eight I believe, right, uh huh or no,

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>something like the US was down three they were eight

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to eight in the Curtis Strange year. Yeah. I mean,

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it can make a good argument that if

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a blowout that in favor of the US, that

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 1>we might need to talk about, like, you know, the

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 1>home field advantage has just like gotten to be too

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>much because we just saw, you know, these two teams

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>get completely blown out in reverse two years ago. So

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>if it, if it totally flips, like I don't know,

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.919
<v Speaker 1>maybe should an independent you know, committee set up the course?

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Should you know, should there not be as many captains picks?

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the answer would be. I don't know.

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just like, hey, keep going with it until

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody breaks the cycle and then it's like hold. It's

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>like holding serve in tennis, right, Like if you broke

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Pete Sampras when he was at the height of his powers,

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you deserved to win those matches and if you couldn't,

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, that was part of the deal. It was

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:25.880
<v Speaker 1>why it made it so tough, because he was the

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 1>greatest server of that time. And maybe that's the deal

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 1>with like playing at home and Ryder Cups. You should

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 1>win those Ryder Cups, so the pressure is on you

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>to win them, you know.

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I think like if you get a close one, it

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 2>becomes just such a spectacle on Sunday and it becomes

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the rare sports events. I'm not saying it's

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 2>going to outright the NFL, but it's one of the

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 2>rare sports events where you can put it up against

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 2>the NFL and and have success. You know. I think

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the Ryder Cup makes it just so easy for fans

0:53:56.280 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>to get into it because it's US versus Europe, right,

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and everybody knows what side they're on, and it's easy

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:09.439
<v Speaker 2>to understand. I think. I think another interesting subplot here

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 2>is like what happens if the Euros win? What happens

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to the US team? Are we? Are we running towards

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 2>another kind of reset of how we think about the

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Ryder Cups as an American side?

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Do they form a circular firing squad?

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that brings me to what I think

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is probably the final point. Andy is Keegan Bradley, like,

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of pressure. There would be more

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>pressure if he was playing, you know, if he was

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 1>a playing captain, but there is a lot of pressure

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:43.760
<v Speaker 1>on him to essentially hold serve. Like I said before,

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he wanted so badly to be involved in the Ryder Cup,

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, is as important as anything in his career.

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>We joke about the suitcase, you know, not unpacking it,

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 1>but like the man truly cares.

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 2>About can you just for people that don't know that story,

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 2>can you can you just you know, on that story

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 2>real quick as a.

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So they the US had like Ryder Cup team luggage

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and after Madona, Kegan brought home, you know, all of

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.839
<v Speaker 1>his stuff in his suitcase and he was like too

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>miserable to unpack it because like, I just can't like

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.280
<v Speaker 1>think about like looking at all that team uniform stuff

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and everything that you know, went into all the feelings

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of that and just how close we were to winning

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and how embarrassing it is, and it kind of dragged on.

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 1>He was like eventually like all right, well I'll unpack

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 1>it like when I make next Ryder Cup team and

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 1>when we win a Ryder Cup. And just like you know,

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't didn't win a Ryder Cup in fourteen, didn't make

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the team in sixteen, didn't make it in eighteen, you know,

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't make it in twenty. It was just like it

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>became kind of like a little bit of a joke

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 1>amongst us golf nerds like, oh, how bad does that

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>suitcase smell? You know, not knowing that it really exists.

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Did And then Keegan, to his credit, was like he

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>went into his garage and was like, yep, there's the suitcase,

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like's actually still never been unpacked, and so you know,

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think there might be a bottle of champagne

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in there. I can't remember what exactly.

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't even remember how they drink the champagne that's

0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:21.400
<v Speaker 2>been just sitting in like a hot garage for years.

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Schotts Kegan for having the same house, I

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 1>think all this year. I mean, imagine if you had

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the sad humiliation of you like moved your house and

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 1>you had to pack up that suitcase and then find

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a new place for it at your new house and

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>your new garage. Uh So, you know, I'm sure that

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll be if they win, there'll be some sort of

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 1>joke where Keegan, you know, on Good Morning America or

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>something like rips open that suitcase and you know, we

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 1>get to see those musty media you know, uniforms from

0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 1>from Ralph Lauren. But I think if he wins, if

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the US does really well and they sort of embrace

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Keegan as a result, it'll kind of be like the

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 1>defeat of the Boys Club in a lot of ways,

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of like, you know, this person was

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 1>an outsider, they flipped the script and basically like you

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>powdy babies, you've been you know, you have your little

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 1>cadre of people. It hasn't worked out, you know, it's

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's nothing that long ago. They just won in Whistling.

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>So the narrative isn't quite as tidy as we would

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like to make it. But it's almost like a movie

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 1>script of like them rallying around Keegan and be like,

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what we should have We were wrong all

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>this time. You should have been part of some of

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>these squads. You cared about this thing like like never before,

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, hopefully it'd be interesting, like what if

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Keegan uses this and then has another great two years

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 1>as a player and then makes the team in a

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>dare you know, like can we call him a playing

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>captain then? Like obviously I don't think he's gonna be

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the captain two cycles in a row, but I don't.

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 2>If he wins. Is do they have a choice but

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to make him a captain? Though? It was a good

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 2>question because like I feel like the European side, it

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, we have to do Luke Donald, we

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:00.920
<v Speaker 2>have to give them the chance to go win abroad.

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they're sort of stalling. Maybe I think the

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Europeans are stalling until Justin Rose can be the captain.

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 1>That that will feel like because West the.

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Content from him as the captain, Rose might be one

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 2>of the all time fun captains of just overly serious,

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 2>very intense, very English.

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm ready for it already. But you know, I

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>think Tiger's.

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Going to want to be a team.

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I think Tiger's going to want to be the captain

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 1>in two years. And so it's you know, I think

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Hegan would happily stand down for Tiger. But if Tiger

0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>says no, I'm not not going to do it. If

0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he you know, does something else like blows out a

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 1>knee or gets to get his hip or placed or

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>whateverides getting married, be getting married, very possible, he could

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 1>be appointed in an ambassador somewhere. All we know, like

0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>these are all on the table. Uh he could be

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Supreme Court for anything as possible. Uh So

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that Tiger will if he doesn't want it,

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.120
<v Speaker 1>then Keegan could say, like what you know, I'd go

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 1>another round, like I'll say I do this again. But

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I think this is Keegan's one shot it to sort

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of prove that everybody was wrong to keep him out

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of this event. For all those years, and man, it

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 1>would be be kind of sweet. As someone who's like

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>irrationally liked Keegan for a long time, you know, I'm

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>excited for it if that happens for him.

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I if europe pins, do you just keep rolling Luke

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Donald out?

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what? I think I kind of find that

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to be cheating.

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I honestly like, I don't like it.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that you should just have to flip the

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 1>calendar every two years and pick a new captain because

0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what gives us us fun content. Like how much

0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:46.160
<v Speaker 1>fun would it be if Westy was the captain this year,

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, or if they had to go ready for that.

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just I like it that you

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 1>get your one shot and then you put everything into it,

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and then once that's done, like yeah, we're moving on.

0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Paul Aisinger probably should have be a captain

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:02.840
<v Speaker 1>for a couple cycles. I mean, he was basically the

1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:06.440
<v Speaker 1>person who restored pride in the Americans. They'd won like

1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 1>three Ryder Cups in twenty five years when he you know,

1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 1>finally kind of like was like, you know what, we

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:13.680
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be losing Ryder Cups at home and they should

1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have won him a Dina. You know, that was kind

1:00:15.120 --> 1:00:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of a fluke, once in a lifetime thing that they

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:20.400
<v Speaker 1>gave up that lead on Sunday. But you know, I

1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:23.440
<v Speaker 1>just I don't want to see a Tony Jacquelin situation

1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:25.200
<v Speaker 1>where it's like he gets to do it forever. I

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 1>want them to have to keep bringing up new blood

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 1>through the system.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, what's your pick? Who's your pick? Will do?

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Pick the side in the MVP?

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 1>And I was really like, I thought, I mean, I

1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>don't want to waffle too much here because I'm gonna

1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>stick with my original pick. I'm gonna pick Europe. I

1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:50.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't think I thought that there was like a no brainer.

1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Like four or five months ago, I was like, or

1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.200
<v Speaker 1>even two years ago, it's like, I think Europe's gonna win.

1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember saying that two years ago. It was like,

1:00:57.200 --> 1:00:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I think this will be the first time that flips

1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:01.840
<v Speaker 1>it a little less confident in that. I feel like

1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Keegan has done a lot right. And I still think

1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like they have two of the best players in the

1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:10.040
<v Speaker 1>world in Scotty and Bryson, and they have a lot

1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:13.919
<v Speaker 1>of guys with some pretty you know, some pretty high

1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:17.640
<v Speaker 1>ceilings for talent. Wise, I if Brooks hadn't fallen off

1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a cliff, I'd feel a little bit better. Like having

1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Brooks Keopka at Beth Page would be kind of a neat,

1:01:23.480 --> 1:01:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, weapon to have. You know, he's shown that

1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 1>this is straight up his kind of golf course. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna stick with Europe. I want to say

1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're you know, whether it's fourteen and a half

1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to thirteen and a half or fourteen fourteen, and they

1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 1>retain I think they're going to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm going with Europe. Also, I just think their

1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:46.080
<v Speaker 2>players fit a golf course that presents a horse for

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the course type set up better than the Americans. And

1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a pretty even talent, you know, kind of spread.

1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:58.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think like if you look at just by

1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:02.560
<v Speaker 2>nature of the guys that that qualified from the American side,

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:07.440
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a lot of prolific drivers of the

1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:10.120
<v Speaker 2>golf ball. And then you look on the other side

1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and you look at Ludwig and and rom and and

1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the even you know, the weakest player on the European side,

1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Restless Holy Guard is a great driver of the golf ball.

1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Bob McIntyre, great drive, you know, like you just look

1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:25.160
<v Speaker 2>at the the two sides and you just I think

1:02:25.240 --> 1:02:29.200
<v Speaker 2>the the the course fit really leans towards the Europeans.

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<v Speaker 2>I I will put Tommy Fleetwood as my m VP.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is. Uh, I think he's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's starting to develop a you know, a sensational Ryder

1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Cup record. Obviously, you know the the the France is

1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:49.160
<v Speaker 2>is well known, but he was really good in uh

1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:52.840
<v Speaker 2>in Rome and uh I think I'm i he's coming

1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:55.280
<v Speaker 2>in as good for him as anybody in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So I'm gonna go with Europe also, which I'm

1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm I've been kind of on and and I think,

1:03:03.440 --> 1:03:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I you know, we're gonna get hammered in the lead

1:03:05.800 --> 1:03:08.280
<v Speaker 2>up of this, and I think there's there's so much

1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.880
<v Speaker 2>content that's going to come out. We'll have a ton

1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:14.360
<v Speaker 2>on the Frida Egg. You can check out that. We

1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:16.680
<v Speaker 2>have a Ryder Cup Hub, which we've put a lot

1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:19.640
<v Speaker 2>of time and effort into. Go check that out. It

1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:24.560
<v Speaker 2>has like little blurbs about every player it has. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be rolling out daily newsletters. Kevin, You'll be on site

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<v Speaker 2>with with me and a bunch of us that and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be pumping out daily content. Thanks for joining. People

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<v Speaker 2>can read and read your stuff in the newsletter on

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<v Speaker 2>part of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Bud. Looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, big thanks to PJ. Clark for editing and

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<v Speaker 2>producing this podcast. We can't wait for the Ryder Cup

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<v Speaker 2>we're I think with Kevin coming on board, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put a greater emphasis on that than ever before.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the quality. We obviously have great writers and

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan Poorath and Garrett Morrison and Joseph Lamannia already in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Joseph does so much work in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's great work. Like the idea of the newsletter is

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<v Speaker 2>just let's make this is a must read. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll enjoy it. It's free. Sign up for that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, pay attention to the socials and everything

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<v Speaker 2>we got going out and visit the Ryder Cup Hub.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a new kind of website feature. We're really excited

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<v Speaker 2>about rolling out new features on the website, and we

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<v Speaker 2>think that one's really neat and there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>content that's loaded in there for you to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>peruse and get in that Ryder Cup mood. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you again. We'll be back next week breaking down

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<v Speaker 2>what happened at the Ryder Cup