WEBVTT - Augusta Archives: Craig Stadler

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<v Speaker 1>I miss the green. For example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball in a fried egg

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida egg, Frida Egg, Frida egg,

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<v Speaker 1>fried Egg, Frida egg, bride egg Lie, I'm about ready

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<v Speaker 1>to run off the golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>Arnold Palmer is the master of nine.

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<v Speaker 1>He has buddy the last two holes, two cats and

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<v Speaker 1>that bog ahead, Oh cat?

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<v Speaker 2>That Jory?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the fatest lay a way?

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<v Speaker 2>His gold I have Anybody hasn't ever seen that?

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't play up the hill like that? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the greatest buddies I've ever seen him

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Night. Maybe yes, sir, there can you believe it?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>No? There? It is a wind for the ages?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it his time?

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<v Speaker 1>Here? It comes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, oh wow?

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<v Speaker 1>In your life? Have you seen anything like that? Hello? Friends,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jim nansis my great pleasure to welcome you to

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<v Speaker 1>the Master's Tournament. I've heard it said before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tradition unlike any other. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast. Today

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<v Speaker 2>we are joined by PGA Tour and Champions Tour star

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<v Speaker 2>Craig Styler. Craig was a four time All American at

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<v Speaker 2>USC and most notably won the nineteen eighty two Masters.

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<v Speaker 2>Craig twenty fourteen was your last Masters. What do a

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<v Speaker 2>typical Masters week look like for you? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously landscape has changed a bit, but you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all week. I get in Saturday and I play Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got dinner dinners during the week. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>past champions there on Tuesday. Obviously, go to was tucked

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<v Speaker 1>a party of my wife on Wednesday, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hang out during the week, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>in the range little bit of like watch the guys

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen just a bit because I've been so

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<v Speaker 1>moved from the j Tour for fifteen years now. One

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<v Speaker 1>chance I can see him was occasional, I'll watch it

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. So I spent a mood time out of

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<v Speaker 1>there and just kind of hang around the club and

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of friends and a lot of members

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<v Speaker 1>that are friends and just kind of socialize more than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it is kind of a work week as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not busy all week.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of the Champions dinner. What's who's put together the

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<v Speaker 2>best menu since you've attended.

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<v Speaker 1>The best menu over all the years?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God, I don't remember half of them. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>combinations are pretty pretty bizarre. We've had from hagas steakes

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<v Speaker 1>to monkey sausage to barbecue. Nobody has ever sent so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of years after I won, they

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<v Speaker 1>started the past champions to be able to pick the venue.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I ever had fish interesting was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So you didn't get to pick the menu when you won.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I think that started in eighty five.

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<v Speaker 2>What what would be your menu if they say, let

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<v Speaker 2>you have at it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we had had you joyed to steak, spinner fish.

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<v Speaker 2>Any any of them stick out as the worst dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>None of them have been bad, okay, I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that people that half the people, half the guys probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't like was the Hagis. I'm guessing that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was fine, but now it's always been entertaining. I

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<v Speaker 1>think was our one was lump meat, crabtail, cock crab

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail with hot ressert and cheeseburger with Tiger's first win.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit all across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has been. It has been. It's always been

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<v Speaker 1>good and wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I recently watched the nineteen eighty two final round when

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<v Speaker 2>when you won, and I'm curious. You know, the seventeenth hole,

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<v Speaker 2>you got one of the worst divot lies I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you hit a great shot that spun off

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<v Speaker 2>the front of the green that it looked like it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be really close. Have you ever gotten

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<v Speaker 2>two worst consecutive breaks on a hole.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll I don't look all the breaks. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>just matters where your ball goes. But you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't exactly what I want to see after the tea shot,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know the pen on the front right there

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<v Speaker 1>from that giant it was I did. I hit a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a second shot. It almost went in, but

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, anything on the anything on the right over there,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you leave it, George's got to cut back

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<v Speaker 1>off the ring, which I couldn't really too much about

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<v Speaker 1>that it was buried. Yeah, I chipped up about six

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<v Speaker 1>inches or so many an easy park, so it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a trying back nine obviously. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>got forty by opening nine on Thursday, and I shot

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<v Speaker 1>forty like closing nine on Sunday, So not very good games.

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<v Speaker 2>They usually say, you know, if you can avoid one

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<v Speaker 2>bad eighteen hole, so you just you bookended it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I got seventy five the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy three the last round. But the Thursday and

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<v Speaker 1>Friday and Saturday, we're very decent in the Queens. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the uh that was the second year they'd

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<v Speaker 1>come back to that past. And the greens were were

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<v Speaker 1>really fast, probably the fastest a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They were really quick, probably about the same bit. They

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<v Speaker 1>were actually lightning fast, but they were really spiked it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just a year old, and and we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>sauce spice back then, and they that's piped up pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So which I mean, is any reason that the four

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<v Speaker 1>apartment the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cur Yeah, yeah, it was. It seemed like the conditions

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<v Speaker 2>were really tough the first two rounds too, with with

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<v Speaker 2>the wind in the second round, and and then obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the fast greens. It's in terms of playing at Augusta

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<v Speaker 2>on like a normal week, say you know, a month

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<v Speaker 2>or two before the tournament versus the practice rounds versus

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<v Speaker 2>the actual tournament. How does the golf course change.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, the greens are slower. You know. I never I

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<v Speaker 1>never came in early and play practice founds. But the

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<v Speaker 1>last oh eight or ten years, I've taken a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of buddies once or maybe sometimes twice a year in

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<v Speaker 1>a year, and the golf course of immaculate shape year round.

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<v Speaker 1>The greens are definitely a bit slower than they are

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<v Speaker 1>during the tournament. I tend to when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>do bring somebody's friends that, uh, we play the overseas

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<v Speaker 1>because it's pretty much the same as it was back

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<v Speaker 1>in the ages distance wise. Now that I'm sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>and it's thirty years later, the golf part is not

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<v Speaker 1>same for the members. He's maybe a little shorter, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me it's a lot more time from

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<v Speaker 1>me because I enjoyed that course a little shorter than

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<v Speaker 1>the considers now. But the link that is now is

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<v Speaker 1>for these guys is the place basically plays the same

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<v Speaker 1>as it did for us thirty years ago. They're at

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<v Speaker 1>nine irons when we're at porn.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that we're onto the course. Outside of obviously the distance,

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<v Speaker 2>what I what would you say are kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest changes that have happened over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, not much. They don't. They don't make

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<v Speaker 1>major major changes. The only one they really made major, well,

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<v Speaker 1>two of them may exactly did the green on thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and uh one kime ago. And then every year they

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<v Speaker 1>see every other year they seem to slowly build the

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<v Speaker 1>hill the exact same way and create that tea back

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven to where from the bottom you go off

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<v Speaker 1>ten it looks the same. All of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 1>get up there, and now it's what seventy eighty yards

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<v Speaker 1>longer than they're seventy yards longer than it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be eased three four or forty of sixty yards five

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<v Speaker 1>o'h five I think. But most are the two major changes,

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<v Speaker 1>most of it, and moving the first tea back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember way back, remember back in the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and eighties, and naturally the nineties, early nineties or mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the back of the first T used to be

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<v Speaker 1>in front about eight yards in front of the Magnol three,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the front of the first T is about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards be kind of Magnolia three. Yeah, they've moved

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<v Speaker 1>that whole back sixty yards.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a bunch of little changes. Obviously they've never

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<v Speaker 2>never done anything significant with the routing of the course.

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<v Speaker 2>But it always seems like there's a few tweaks every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they usually tweak some greens. They haven't done really

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<v Speaker 1>much of anything in the last two or three years.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I remember them doing was building well.

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<v Speaker 1>They they messed around a little bit with the front

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<v Speaker 1>right of three, and then they added that little plateau

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<v Speaker 1>on the right side of seven. I don't think anything major.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not even really major, but something that catches try

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<v Speaker 1>the first time you walk on a green or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anything like that at Second In five

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<v Speaker 1>six years.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you had a great deal of success at Augusta.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of your wind, you had a number of top tens.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there something about the golf course that fit your

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<v Speaker 2>eye or something about the golf course that really suited

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<v Speaker 2>your game?

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<v Speaker 1>No, not really. I mean everybody says it's a hooker

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<v Speaker 1>the ball golf course, but I never thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>other than the obvious. On ten and fifteen and thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit on fourteen, we really had somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>of an entertaining to draw off the team. Other than

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<v Speaker 1>that golf course never bothered me. Not being able to

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<v Speaker 1>the ball very well, and uh, I just love playing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the golf course I won early in my career,

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<v Speaker 1>which gives you some you know, gives you a good

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<v Speaker 1>attitude going in every year. But I love putting in

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<v Speaker 1>the greens as opposed to a lot of guys you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being greens. I love paying And yeah, I just got

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<v Speaker 1>along with the place well, which usually happened to go

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere where you played well and you won or come

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<v Speaker 1>close to winning, you afford to going back to the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that I mean the positive attitude, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>is huge for anything when you go back to a

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<v Speaker 2>place that you've won, having whereas other people have been

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<v Speaker 2>burned by it. And I think about Rory a lot

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<v Speaker 2>now with you know, some of the some of the

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<v Speaker 2>troubles he's had out there, is almost becomes a mental thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that you

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<v Speaker 1>get going good and if it's happened a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, back in the back of your mind, is

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'll do this again, you know, or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I'm sure it's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a factor.

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<v Speaker 2>People always talk about, you know, for first timers. The

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<v Speaker 2>advice they get from different players. If you say one

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<v Speaker 2>of the amateurs like Doug Gammer, Doc Redman came up

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<v Speaker 2>to you and asked for a piece of advice, what

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<v Speaker 2>would it be.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, their games are so well. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>talunting thing about it, Gus is you never in a

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<v Speaker 1>year or a few or three can learn the greens

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<v Speaker 1>and around the greens. I think that, of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>a constant learning process forever. And you know you have

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<v Speaker 1>to know where you miss where you can't sure decided

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<v Speaker 1>obviously with the irons to the greens. But you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go everywhere in three days of practice. You can't go

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<v Speaker 1>actually everywhere on the else you can try, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can go out there for ten hours a day, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the live and learnt. It's pretty good there.

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<v Speaker 1>When you miss a green and a couple spots for

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<v Speaker 1>a pin is and you get down and see if

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<v Speaker 1>they have those are the ones you don't forget, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those stick in your mind and you know it's times

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<v Speaker 1>you be there to see that pin like you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't just sit there. So it's a constant learning process,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody talks about you know, approach shots distance, and

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<v Speaker 2>as you alluded to, that right to left shot, but

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like the recovery shot is so important from

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<v Speaker 2>around those greens there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just too short side yourself there. It's impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the most underrated great hole out there,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your favorite hole that might be a little less

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<v Speaker 2>talked about than the obvious ones.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good I'm not sure I have an answer

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<v Speaker 1>for uh. I think, uh, my mind, number five used

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<v Speaker 1>to be the hardest holes out there, but with the

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<v Speaker 1>guys away as far as they those days hit now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and every hole has its character. I think

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<v Speaker 1>number nine is a lot harder are than people give

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<v Speaker 1>it credit for us. It's not these you know, But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, he's the guys out these days. If they

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<v Speaker 1>get down there and they get somewhere, they miss the

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<v Speaker 1>trees going down, then they're gonna watch them. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes away a lot of a lot of the difficulty,

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<v Speaker 1>that is if you're stuck way back in the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the hill. But obviously there's some guys that don't

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<v Speaker 1>hit it a mile still, but not many. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>duty that's the beauty of that golf course. Every hole

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<v Speaker 1>has its own character. Every hole is different. The part

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<v Speaker 1>three is all different. Uh, you've got one that's long

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<v Speaker 1>and then really hard for the back edge of the sea,

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<v Speaker 1>top of the back tea. It's fifty at you Now

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<v Speaker 1>on four, you've got one hundred and eighty yards one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy sixty way put the pens right down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Six we've got obviously twelve a little greenover

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<v Speaker 1>raised creek. And then you've got sixteen, which is fairly

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<v Speaker 1>the nine hole, except when they put the pins, if

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere they put them, they put it front right for

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<v Speaker 1>the top right, it's really hard. They put it back

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<v Speaker 1>after to get a good person. So every every hole

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<v Speaker 1>is different, the parts are different, are different, and which

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<v Speaker 1>which is my side of one of the classic golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the golf course. You play it once, you're

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<v Speaker 1>every hole in the golf course, and I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely one of those courses. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I always think something else you will too, is how

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<v Speaker 2>you said you learned something every time you go around it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's another thing about great golf courses

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<v Speaker 2>is every single time you play it, it reveals itself

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>More, especially with August I mean, because you know, au

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<v Speaker 1>Gussa is for the most part, very easy driving golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not difficult to get the ball in the fairways.

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<v Speaker 1>But then that's where the fun begins.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you talked about the distance a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I didn't I didn't know. I'm I'm a I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one, so I wasn't around it. When you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Pole was in his heyday, I didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 2>such a prodigious driver of the golf ball he was,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know what a great athlete he was.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in the playoff with you guys, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>he was hitting a seven iron into the tenth green,

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<v Speaker 2>which was pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, you could do it on I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do over the hill, and you know it was starred

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<v Speaker 1>and fast all the way when we drove it, probably

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<v Speaker 1>three stemps apart. But he was he had he had

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<v Speaker 1>a really short backsway he still does, and but just

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of strength in his legs and his arms,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very long hitter back in those days.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody with the I don't know if you've seen,

0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.560
<v Speaker 2>they put all the final rounds onto YouTube. The last

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years of the Masters everybody's talking about their favorite years.

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<v Speaker 2>What shots are in tournaments in years? Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>don't get spoken enough or forgotten?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they get fairly easy. He's forgotten because there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many of them. These guys are so good these days,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you've got them from gosh, however far

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<v Speaker 1>back you want to go back in the seventies, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Jerry Pate sticking at the foot of the Atlantic

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic Club. You got early eighties, you get Watson chipping

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<v Speaker 1>in at seventeen at Tebble. All kinds of shots to

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<v Speaker 1>choose from god knows how many Millan and Nicholas and

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<v Speaker 1>rned Player and you know player that little kind of

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<v Speaker 1>short shot he hid and there's something he's stuck in

0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the foot on seventeen guests. I mean, all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>shots that uh, you know have room for all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, to the game, to the games, to the games.

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<v Speaker 3>Made an eighteen to beat Norman, the the bunker shot

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<v Speaker 3>of the Twain may to beat Norman.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all kinds of choices out there, the shot and

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<v Speaker 1>not to bring up Norman. But the second shot he

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<v Speaker 1>had an eighteen to get me, which was probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the one of the worst golf shots on finishing

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<v Speaker 1>home other than you know the guy at Memphis that

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<v Speaker 1>made nine, or or versusly Van de Veld at Turnberry.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, the get a perfecting a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>they are and missed it right at the right bunker.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of do you got the lies in that

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<v Speaker 1>last hole? You don't? You wonder where the stuff come from,

0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, good batter and difference. There's a whole rash

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen hole shots to choose from.

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<v Speaker 2>It especially, I mean when you think about if you're

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<v Speaker 2>leading a major championship, you're clearly pretty locked in. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, missing right of the the right bunker

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<v Speaker 2>is even bigger, like outside the dispersion for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that week, because if you're leading, you're obviously hitting the

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<v Speaker 2>ball really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly and you know the mindset. You wonder what changes

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<v Speaker 1>from the se from playing seven to one holes brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>or to the last hole. I mean, it should be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it should be the mentality all the way

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<v Speaker 1>through and well this is what got here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to hope I stay there. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get one. More So.

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<v Speaker 2>When I play amateur golf, like a mid am and

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<v Speaker 2>state am stuff, and I'm usually more nervous on the

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<v Speaker 2>first t than I am coming down the stretch at

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<v Speaker 2>a tournament. Or is that the way you felt in

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<v Speaker 2>your career or is it was there specific spots on

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<v Speaker 2>golf courses you were most nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I was fairly fortunate. I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get real nervous. I kind of was when I

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<v Speaker 1>started talking, Well, I loved it. I played better, which

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:43.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't all that often, well that often, but but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. It's difference for everybody. But you know, some

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.680
<v Speaker 1>guys basking the fact that they're the three every week

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<v Speaker 1>coming down the stretch and they played better like Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>obviously when you got better almost almost one hundred percent

0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of the time. But so yeah, everybody's different than everybody

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<v Speaker 1>handles whatever you want to call it, nerves pressure or

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<v Speaker 1>why is being in the position they're in, not being

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:15.120
<v Speaker 1>in a position they're in they want to be. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>handles it different. You can't really pull out water or

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<v Speaker 1>the other you know, talk about a lot of these

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 1>nunchers talk about you know Gin that show by that show, Well,

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that's free plays, you know, that's what it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody always likes to talk about Augusta using a Master's ball.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be reduced distance if they put that into place.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the first t they said, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>play this ball or you don't play. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>all the players would play.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it will ever be a question. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how they can do that. I don't see anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many contracts, ball contracts, how many different companies

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 1>balls are being you every week. It's that's what they

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>sell golf ball with m that's their advertising, right there,

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Guys using the majors. And you know, a guy likes

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the softball like I like a hard ball. Guys a

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<v Speaker 1>little less, spend, little more than you tell everybody. If

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<v Speaker 1>the select few they build the ball's exactly when they're playing,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow change balls and after your career, in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of your career, and I just don't see. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it happening. I don't know. The Masters is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the only then you work happen because they're their their

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<v Speaker 1>own event. They can just say, you know, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is. And if that will happen, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it won't come. But if it were too I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody would still play. But when you're gonna share

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>the ball, you're gonna give them a couple of months

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<v Speaker 1>to play a new ball while you're playing an old

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 1>ball and regular two events. Uh, it's just it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a viable concept. Sounds good, but

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<v Speaker 1>the planning the same as the same as Nicholas wanting to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make one ball for the tour. M Well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna make it? Are you're gonna say, is that

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.959
<v Speaker 1>PJA tour gonna make it? The stamp it with everybody's

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>all the different companies, all of those But even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same ball, they don't make it. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's not something that that can work. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's tricky. It's uh like to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Most great ideas in executing them are are two different

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<v Speaker 2>challenges and uh, but it's you know, with the fairways

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<v Speaker 2>and how I guess had they started cutting them the

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<v Speaker 2>different direction towards the end of your playing career there.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, they've done various things over the years. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of my favorite stories the past champions.

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<v Speaker 1>One year they we played on Expand on Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had about donald The moors are probably ten football

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<v Speaker 1>and they went down home the creek towards the green.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one came back towards the tee down and they

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<v Speaker 1>went opposite directions every ten field going the fairway towards

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the tee or towards the green. And after the dinner

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of a Q and A for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the chairman and who was Hour Harden at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably in the early nineties, and Arnold got

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<v Speaker 1>on thirteen, you've blowed the fairways. If a direction every

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>every width of the mower going down hole or going

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>into the into the back towards the tu If you

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>hit a drive and hit the down green, you roll

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<v Speaker 1>around a quarter forty yards. You hit it six instance, right,

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you get one more towards the tea. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>check roll five feet and have mud on the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason for that part just looked at Arnold and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, we'll take that up in front of

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>our board of experts, and I'll looked at him because, well, Hard, what,

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>what exactly do you think you have this one? Good night?

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 1>And Hard just looked at him. We'll take that from

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the front of the board of experts. So that was

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>rather rather humorous and rather rather just unbelievable, just really

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and he had a perfect point. M h. And come Thursday,

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>they're all Mode, the Sanderson, all the fairways. So it

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.360
<v Speaker 1>did change it, we're saying because it took it took

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a fairly large amount of fairness out of the game

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<v Speaker 1>on that whole. Especially.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they ever ask past champions or players for input.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, there are a couple of past champions involved in

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the decision to way back when to tell you back

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight, or to tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>turned sixty five he could play anymore, Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 1>probably you'll come make him back to fite him in

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<v Speaker 1>the butt. Is one of the worst decisions they ever made,

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>but they did fortunately reverse it like three four months later. Mh.

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>You know you got you got Jack at sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>who still plays pretty good, and thousands and thousands of

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>people want to come out and watch Nicholas and the

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>same with partner. You're gonna tell them both a sixty

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>five they can't play.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore, Yeah, I mean, I mean Tom Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't take long that didn't take long. Drivers. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>took like a couple of months to reverse.

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<v Speaker 2>At the season, Tom Watson almost won a major championship

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<v Speaker 2>at sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>So yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So the twelfth hole obviously gets talked a lot about.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is that kind of the point of the golf

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<v Speaker 2>course that is the toughest single shot out there? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is there another one that makes you think a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I don't think there's a shot on that

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>golf course that has the same the same scrambled news

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and winds and you know what, your thoughts are not news,

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>but you know what, you what you think your head

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>can change so often with the wind and and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a there's a harder golf shot

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>in golf twelve, possibly with a with a down wind

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>forty mile on our wind, which it never happens. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it was seventeen, the TPC might be as hard

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. But you know, it's uh as good as

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are, it's still very very much. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the game on that tea every day you just caeh.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at eleven and the pins and the flags

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<v Speaker 1>blowing straight back at the tea. You look at all

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<v Speaker 1>the flags blowing the right stand up blowing to the right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you look over to the right on thirteen and

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<v Speaker 1>the trees as low to the left, so you just

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<v Speaker 1>never know what's going on with that hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't have any any little tricks for the

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<v Speaker 2>wind there.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're just very happy to get it out. You're

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<v Speaker 1>very happy to get it on the green if it's windy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty much always windy down on that corner

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So we get last question, then we'll get you out

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<v Speaker 2>of here with our we do this overrated, underrated segment.

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<v Speaker 2>But who are you picking this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Picked anybody? I started? I thought about it last week

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing a radio show and all about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five names popping in my head. So you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys playing really well right now. You got

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<v Speaker 1>Phil playing well, Tiger's coming back, Murray's playing well, Dustin

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas is playing great. Just a number of guys are

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<v Speaker 1>playing really, really good. It'll be a good event, it

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<v Speaker 1>always is. But I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>pick one, well, I really don't know. You know, Rubble

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<v Speaker 1>one last week, he loves the place. So you just

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<v Speaker 1>have a little players that could win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was putting together a story lines piece, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was kept writing and I got to

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<v Speaker 2>like sixteen hundred words, and I felt like I left

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff out. I can't remember a Masters that has

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<v Speaker 2>had so much interesting kind of build up with big

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>name winners. Obviously Tiger coming back. It should be a

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<v Speaker 2>great week this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tire come back. Phil's playing great. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>can just you can go down and on ten hands

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<v Speaker 1>you can cut him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think there's about twenty guys that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if they won, which is which is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So and you know you talked about those eight

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<v Speaker 1>we just talked about and then you're leaving out you

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<v Speaker 1>leave it out Jason Day and whoever else, whoever else,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever else. There's just there's potential for a lot of peoples. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we didn't even bring up Speed or Rory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you goes. I mean yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So overrated, underrated, you just uh you can just say

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<v Speaker 2>you know one, or you can expand uh. Tomento cheese sandwiches. Uh, underrated,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for the price there.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Driving down Magnolia.

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<v Speaker 1>Lane extremely underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>The fourteenth hole, it's got.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it's got a lot of hype too,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still underrated. What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>And then the fourteenth hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I would say about either, it's probably you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you want to, it's in the middle somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But as opposed to pastors, I would say probably Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little overrated because they lost that big pine

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:15.479
<v Speaker 1>tree on the left side of the green made that

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>second shot to the left hand a lot easier than

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<v Speaker 1>it ever was.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, I didn't even think about that. All right. Well, Craig,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much for your time, and we look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to watching the Masters and appreciate your insights into AUGUSTA.

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<v Speaker 1>My pleasure would be a great week again as those

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<v Speaker 1>is