1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Cooley 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: High harmony reference to Boisdomen saying the other day, Uh 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: and I'm Jack. That's Miles, and we are thrilled to 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: be joined by a very special guest on today's training episode, 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Bridget Tales than for having me. I'm so happy for 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: being here. Always nice to have you, Bridget, always great. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: What do you what is that a tonic to use 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: your nerves in in these relaxing times? It's a tonic. 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna pretend to say it was water or 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: like things are wild here in d C. Y. We 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: wanted to check on you. How what what is it 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: like in d C right now? Yeah, it's so thank 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: you for asking. Yesterday, I feel like I went through 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: this ins like incredible whirlwind of emotions. I stayed up 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: late to watch the runoffs, and so I went to bed. 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: You know when I when I woke up in the morning, 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: I was sing song happy. Like literally I woke up 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, good morning. I was so happy, 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: like it was I had I had never been like this. 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: I slept in this shirt that has a Shirley Chisholm 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: line on it because I was like black women in 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: political power are so happy. And then you know, as 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: the day went on, you know, I was very really 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: excited to watch the you know, the elector numbers come 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: in and and and watch the hearing, and I could 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean to say that I went from the like 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: the the highest emotion, the fact that the happiest I 28 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: felt in a long time, to the lowest point. It's 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: like it happened so quickly, and so you know, also 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: being in d C, I think it I certainly was 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: not prepared for how quickly things escalated, just in terms 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: of the vibe of the city. Um, you know, we 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: got that you know when your iPhone makes that horrible 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: noise when exactly exactly exactly we got that noise that 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: was like there's a curfew in the city. Um yeah, 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: it just the day went from on top of the 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: world to what the fund is happening so quickly, and honestly, 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like I feel everybody's probably said a million times, 39 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I had never seen anything like it. It And especially 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: as someone who you know, I am a long time 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: activist and organizers, have gone to a million different political events, protests, 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: that kind of thing at the Capitol, that's the specific 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: thing that I think I was really having trouble processing 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: was just watching the way that these people were able 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: to overtake the folks at the Capitol, the police at 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the Capitol. I have just never seen anything like it. 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: Like it was. It was so wildly out of step 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: with my experience, and I have been going to protest 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: there since I'm eleven years old, So it was just 50 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: a real kind of mind fuck, right, It's I think 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: that was just yeah, it's it's the most unsettling thing 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: when you're like, oh, wow, because I've arrently walked by 53 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: a federal building and been told, Hey, what the funk 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: are you doing here? And I'm like, oh, whoops, I'm 55 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: just trying to find the hersh horn, you know what 56 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean. I'm sorry, I just want to see some sculptures, um. 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: And to see these people just walk right in, I 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: think is what's unsettling. And that's that's where like you 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: can see where the power is and how it's seen 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: and viewed, and that's what's truly upsetting as well. Um. 61 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: And just to think of like all the you know, 62 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: the violence the Capitol police are capable of committing and 63 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: have committed in the past, and then suddenly it's welcome 64 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: to the Capitol of Milady. Let me help you down 65 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the stairs. And I was talking about this on the 66 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 1: episode that you know, people don't talk to people. I don't. 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: People don't really know that much about like what happened 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: in Miriam Carey. She she was shot twenty six times 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: to death by Capital police for making a fucking you 70 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: turn and she had her she had her baby in 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: the car. Like it's like, as as someone who was 72 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: born and raised in DC, the police out here don't don't, 73 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: don't play right it is, you know, look around and 74 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: find out territory exactly. And I think just watching I 75 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: was having almost like an out of body experience watching 76 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: this just but with those the experiences that I've had, 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: asked someone in d C with the police, and so 78 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: apparently the DC police are very or I shouldn't say 79 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: DC police because that's not their jurisdiction. The Capitol police 80 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: are very you know, good at using restraint when they 81 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: want to, apparently, And I think that shows like even 82 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: a myth about policing, right, Like what is this about? 83 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Is there really such thing as de escalation? It? Do 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: people need to be trained about there? Maybe on their 85 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: biases that they're not aware of, because it looks very 86 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: clear that people knew how to restrain themselves very easily 87 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: given the context. Um. And yeah, I mean that's why, 88 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: just like this whole thing resonates in so many dimensions 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: at once that it's really unnerving because you could be 90 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: looking at it from any lens of experience and there's 91 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: probably something deeply unsettling for you to see this all happen. Um. 92 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just I'm glad you're safe. And you know, 93 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I was checking on people who I know on DC, like, yeah, 94 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: the the the energy is what I think a lot 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: of people are really feeling out there. It's just something. 96 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: It's just very different. It is very different. And I 97 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: think also the idea, like you know, I was about 98 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: two miles away from the capital, so you know, pretty removed, um, 99 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: two or three miles and Columbia Heights, so pretty removed. 100 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: But Nope, like seeing the videos of these assholes in 101 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: the lobby of our hotels, at our restaurants, I couldn't 102 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: stop thinking about all of the different essential workers throughout 103 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: the city who were forced to serve these people, knowing 104 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: that they came into the city to cause this kind 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: of chaos. That was what was really breaking my heart. 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: And so I'm very privileged and very lucky that i 107 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: have the kind of life where when the curfew order 108 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: came down, I'm I'm safe in my apartment, and like, 109 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, that's my situation. But all I can think 110 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: about was people who are essential workers. They shut down 111 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: the public transportation, the metro at eight o'clock, So how 112 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: are they getting home? They got to take an uber 113 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: out of their own pocket? Like how does that work? 114 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: You know? All I could think about people in d C. 115 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: We are hanging on by a thread as it is. 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: All I could think about was the people who aren't 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: as privileged as I am, who don't have the the 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: ability to just like stay in their house when this 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: kind of stuff pop. Saw who their livelihoods are being affected? Right, 120 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: Like d c DC Public Help put out a statement 121 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: about how the people who had their appointments to get 122 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine, all those appointments were canceled, right, and 123 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: so because of because of these maga people coming into 124 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: the city. Like people need to remember that just because 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: d C is or the federal government is, it's also 126 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: where people live their lives, raise their families, completely unconnected 127 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: to the government, and so people live here. We may 128 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: not be a state, but people live here. And I 129 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: think people forget when they get so upset with what's 130 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: going on in government that it impacts real people's lives. 131 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: People who have who had appointments to get the vaccine 132 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: weren't able to get that vaccine right, People who who 133 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: probably don't have a ton of of wiggle room with 134 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: their finances already have to figure out a way to 135 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: get home because the metro closed early. This is not 136 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, this is people's real lives. Oh man, it's 137 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know. Ah. I've heard some people talk 138 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: about how this could maybe let a spark for DC 139 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: statehood or at least, you know, start that conversation. But 140 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing that's wrong is right 141 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: they look at the fact that DC black that might 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: have a reason why there's no representation in Congress because 143 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: to blue seat right there bottom that's too sanatory. That's 144 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: that's everything, um And that's like another layer that's compounding 145 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: all of this too, where you think, how the fund 146 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: could they do that, and like how does this place 147 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: that's the seat of government have no representation in Congress either. 148 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: It's so it just fux your head and then you 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: think of like, well, who lives in d C. And 150 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: then what does that mean for the for the people 151 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: that could make it a state? And what does that 152 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: mean for senatorial math and and ensuring minority rule and 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: things like that. It's all, um, yeah, it's it's very unsettling, 154 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: is like the only it's a very easy word for 155 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: me to use, because I think I used a thousand 156 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: other ones. No, absolutely, and I think people need to 157 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: remember that while all of this stuff is going on 158 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: in our community, we don't even have any kind of 159 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: congressional representation. We have that one Holmes Norton, but she 160 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: doesn't getna vote, right, So this is all happening as 161 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: democracy supposed to be unfolding in our backyards. We don't 162 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: even get a say, you know, d see statehood? I'm 163 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: very biased because I'm born and raised in d C. 164 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: But do you see statehood? I think is one of 165 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: the biggest civil rights and racial justice issues of our time. 166 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: But I firmly, firmly believe that it is an issue 167 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: that we will see resolved in our lifetime. I believe 168 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: that I will see d C be a state in 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: my lifetime. I have hope. I believe it. We're closer 170 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: than we've ever been before, especially now exactly and all 171 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: the misques and like the they're like, I'm sorry, what happened? 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: What is going on? And a huge argument would be, yeah, 173 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: that had statehood, a lot of other options would have 174 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: been available. Yesterday, well, people were trying to overthrow the 175 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: government because the racist stand up comedian they like was 176 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: getting fired from his job. The US had its deadliest 177 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: day yet of coronavirus um, which is something that I 178 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: hadn't even really noticed until after I managed to escape 179 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: from my doom scrolling uh cocoon of just you know, 180 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: mainlining the news and about the Capitol and uh waiting 181 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: for somebody to kick this motherfucker out of office? Um 182 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: in vain, what's happened? Now? They have there are articles 183 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: of impeachment now, that's supposedly the latest that Nancy Pelosi 184 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: said if they don't do the if Pence doesn't step up, 185 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: then she's going to draft up articles of impeachment. But okay, 186 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Natthy PELUSO, let's see you do it, oh Man tweet 187 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: yesterday outside, Um, yeah you guys can hear all about 188 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: it on tomorrow or check my time. People can just 189 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: enjoy that made me laugh yesterday the one thing I 190 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: could bring myself out of the depths with. Um. Rush 191 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Limbaugh's name is also trending. I feel like there's a 192 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: consensus in the mainstream media that yesterday was some sort 193 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: of breaking point. And now like just the way that 194 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: people are even the tents people are using, the way, 195 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: the way people are saying, like how the right wing 196 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: media figures brought Trump into or bought into Trump's lies. 197 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: And there was a CNN analyst who was saying that 198 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Fox News like contributed the tinder and Trump just lit 199 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: it like it's past tense stuff, almost as if they 200 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: think that this was some high water mark of fascism 201 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: and you know, it's all just gonna recede back from 202 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: our shores. But um, I think people need to under 203 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Like Rush Limbaugh's show today, he was saying that, you know, 204 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: he was saying that the protests over the summer were 205 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: anarchists using the Black Lives Matter movement as a guy is, 206 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: and yesterday, hundreds of thousands of people This is a 207 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: direct quote Americans who have gotten tired of being ignored 208 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: and lied about and smeared his racist by these very 209 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: Democrats Americans who have gotten fed up with having the 210 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: election stolen from them by Democrats, including the White House. 211 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Now they think two more Senate seats have been stolen, 212 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: and they thought they were going to be stolen even 213 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: before the election. And then he claimed that Republicans do 214 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: not know how to protest or loot. Uh, he said, 215 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: But a tiny minority of these protesters and undoubtedly including 216 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: some anti food Democrats sponsored instigators, did decide to go 217 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: to the capital to protest the People's House, by the way. 218 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: So I just I think this is this is just 219 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the beginning, and it needs to be treated that way 220 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: by the mainstream media. This like that's how their spokespeople 221 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: are treating it, like this is just the beginning. Tucker 222 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Carlson was talking about how the interaction at the Capitol 223 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: was going to cause people uh to lose rights like 224 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: that was He's already focused on, you know, turning this 225 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: into part of a you know, ideological battle as opposed 226 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: to just generally uh, you know, people who are uh 227 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: enacting violence on behalf of a white supremacist ideology. But 228 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: it is affecting their rights. You know, they're right to 229 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: profit off of lies on YouTube, because YouTube was just like, oh, 230 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: if you're saying that dumb ship, well do you know 231 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: you can't make money anymore. And the way the conservatives 232 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: talking like you see, freedom of speech is gone, it's like, motherfucker. 233 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: It's it's the same as private property. This is not 234 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: this is not Twitter dot gov. It's not the people's Twitter. 235 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: It's a private fund company. You agree to terms and 236 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: services much in the same way you're like, well, if 237 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: a cake maker doesn't want to make a cake for 238 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: a cake couple, they don't have to, So guess what 239 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: each ship and get the funk out. And that's what 240 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: it is. If you want to fucking talk your racist ship, 241 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: then go do stand up somewhere where all you are 242 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: bend up being anyway. It's like I don't even know, like, yeah, 243 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm with you completely, and I don't want to go 244 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: off like two inside baseball. But in my day job, 245 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: my my day job is really focused around disinformation and 246 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: misinformation and the misuse of social media platforms, and all 247 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: these people can just get fucked. It's like it is you, like, 248 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: you do not have license to incite violence and spread 249 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: disinformation and so like foment this kind of violent reaction 250 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: just with with no consequences, right, And I to be 251 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: super clear, I think that platforms up until this point 252 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: have pretty much done nothing, and everything they have done 253 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: has been because they've been like pressured and pushed and 254 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: controlled and forced. And so the fact that you know, 255 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: Twitter took down Trump's two horrible tweets and they're banning 256 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: them for twelve hours today, Facebook said that they're there, 257 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, banning, banning Trump for and you know, until 258 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: the end of the until the end of his presidency. 259 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: These are the very least they can do. And in 260 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: my book, way too little, too late, right, you know, 261 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: you've had so long YouTube everybody, it is not it 262 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: is not news that people are radicalized and pushed to 263 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: this kind of violent extremist behavior because of YouTube, YouTube's algorithms, right, Like, 264 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: this is not news. YouTube knows this. And so to 265 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: now act like, you know, like, oh my god, like 266 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: how did we get to this place? Y'all knowe how 267 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: we got here? People have been you've known, you've known, 268 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: and so exactly exactly exactly, you know, I think it's 269 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: been hard for me to watch all of these people 270 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: and organizations and platforms that have so much power now 271 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: kind of pretend to be like, oh, like, oh gee, 272 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: who would have ever thought or we didn't know it 273 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: was this bad? Like you knew, you knew, and so 274 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: at this I really want to have a reckoning of 275 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, what wasn't done, what was allowed to fester, 276 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: and what was allowed to grow and mustachimustaticize I'm probably 277 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: saying that wrong, um, you know, in order to get worse, 278 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: to get us to this moment. Yeah, m hmm. I 279 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: it's it's truly, it's truly remarkable how quickly they want 280 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: to pat themselves on the back and feign ignorance around 281 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing when every bit of analysis points to 282 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: how influential and powerful the platforms are, especially when they're 283 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: not regulated. But you know, because we have like we have, 284 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: whether it's white supremacy or greed, certain people just don't 285 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: give a fuck if it's if it's in service of one, 286 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's both at the same time. But like 287 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: you look at these companies are like, well, I mean 288 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: the money is flowing when we do these ads for 289 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: these white supremacists by and we fucking love it, and 290 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: then these other people that ship has just led to. 291 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, well, sure the Ledgers look better, but the 292 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: streets are get bloodier and there's not a connect. And 293 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: I guess the only like I think we're saying on 294 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: tomorrow's episode two, it's funny how they get their shipped 295 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: together the day it's cemented that Democrats are controlling everything. 296 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: Whoa even I mean, we know just that back during 297 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: the election, there was like, yeah, when when like suddenly 298 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Trump had like a real bad day in the polls, 299 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: like his polls just started falling through, and that was 300 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: when Facebook got tough like that day. Basically, it's all 301 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: just a play. It's all strategy. But yeah, I mean 302 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: when greed and white supremacy meet, white supremacy still wins out. 303 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: Just look at like the Sony Hack emails, like the 304 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: they actively make racist decisions that will lose them money. 305 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: They will actively choose against a Denzel Washington project because 306 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: of like some racist bullshit that they uh internalized somewhere 307 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: earlier in their career. Like it's yeah, that's that's this 308 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: is America. And I mean even not to even limited 309 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: to d C, like this should has been happening in 310 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: state capitals and city halls around the around the country. 311 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: I mean in l A, it was disgusting what was 312 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: happening in downtown l A. Like just straight up assaulting 313 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: people women of color, just we're walking through who'd you 314 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: vote for? Amazing them ship And meanwhile, you know, not 315 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: like a fucking Michael Moore is going to do shit 316 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: about it in l A. But like, this has been 317 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: happening all over and it's not just one thing, Like 318 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: this is a across the board issue. It's these These 319 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: people are your neighbors. They're the same people who you're like, 320 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: well that person sold me a car. I can't that 321 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: they weren't racist to me. Well yeah, they were making 322 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: money that time. Because cut to that same guy from 323 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: West Covina, Toyota holding this woman back while people can 324 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: bear mace her. You know what I mean? We I 325 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: don't know, you know. I try and be very aware 326 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: of when people are saying to me and what their 327 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: values are that they are transmitting out loud, and you 328 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: use that to filter good and bad out. But I 329 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: really like people really need to be on alert to 330 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: understand who is you know. Uh, Unfortunately, in a completely 331 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: fucked mindset um and has been completely their naivete has 332 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: been just you know, uh exploited for other people's aims, 333 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: and it's just whatever, what are we gonna do? What? 334 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: I completely agree. I feel that if anything, this whole 335 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: thing has has forced some people have sort of opened 336 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: their eyes. You know. I saw that image that you're 337 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: talking about of a of a young black woman who 338 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: apparently was just like walking down the street in l 339 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: a And was accosted and sprayed in the face with 340 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: with mace, and you know, there's just there's something about 341 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: it seeing a picture of a black woman being assaulted 342 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: if it broke my heart, Like it was hard to see. 343 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: It was something about that something about that image really 344 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: wrote me, especially when she's being restrained like that, yes, 345 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: but like the guy has her her arms and if 346 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: you're going, yeah, like like a huge trigger warning for 347 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: this picture, her arms are like pinned behind her back, 348 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: you know. And what's hard for me is that there's 349 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: another woman of color in the audience cheering him on. 350 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: And there's something about that image that just really represents 351 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: the kind of chaos and breakdown that I feel that 352 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: we are in where it's just like they've lost touch 353 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: with their essential connection to humanity exactly, you know what 354 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's the biggest difference, because all we've 355 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: seen is that these people are undisturbed by massive body counts, 356 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: they're undisturbed by murder of unarmed people. They're just they 357 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: don't care. Their their endgame is just like I don't 358 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: know what we want. Don't cancel the Trump Show, um, 359 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: and that's all it's for. And it's it's really just 360 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: gob smacking to see that and say, holy sh it, 361 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: like they completely managed to put them on some software 362 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: operating system where these are not people anymore. These are 363 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: punching bags and mace maceable targets and ship and possibly 364 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: murder victims. Uh, because we're I've I've ingested a diet 365 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: where you are some communist or whatever word they want 366 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: to use without understanding what it means. Just say you're 367 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: you're you're a lib, You're not you're not maga, So 368 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna suck you up. That is exactly right, And 369 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean that is what we know about how disinformation 370 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: and misinformation works. It collapses who we are into these 371 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: like into these two dimensional caricatures, right, and so you're 372 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: not a black woman who has a family, who loves 373 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: her kids, who you know is a human being, who 374 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: is a person. You are a socialist, you are Antifa, 375 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: you are a libtard, whatever, right like it. Disinformation is 376 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: fueled by making people believe, like deep down belief, the 377 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: worst about each other, the worst about other people in 378 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: our communities. And you know, it is sad to me 379 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: to see what people become when they are fed a 380 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: steady diet of this. And to be clear, like anybody 381 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: can be susceptible, like it is not. It's easy to 382 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: think like all these are stupid people whatever whatever. But 383 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think I would I would appealing to 384 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: bet that if people out there listening really thought deep, 385 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: it could be your dad, It could be your mom, 386 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: It could be your uncle. Like, really, think about who 387 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: in your community is susceptible too when they are fed 388 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: a steady stream telling them to be be afraid of 389 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: your of your neighbor, be afraid of your community, be 390 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: afraid of people who are different from you who might 391 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: be susceptible to that. I think you will be surprised. 392 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: It's not just stupid undesirable people who are other. It 393 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: could be like in your house. It could be somebody 394 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: in your home right now, people you went to school with, 395 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean you talk about all the time. I mean 396 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I think many people have seen a lot of friends 397 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: and family, colleagues, whatever, uh pig just that far right 398 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: turn um out of nowhere and you're like what you're like, 399 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: but they're that's the Mexican homie, Like what and they're 400 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: trying to what the fuck and posting all this racist ship. 401 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Now this is fucked, like how? But I think all 402 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: kinds of people have different things that appeal to them, 403 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: or they have these insecurities or voids within them that 404 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: something about this ideology can help fill, whether that it's 405 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: an inferiority complex or feeling of community because you've been isolated. 406 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: But it's doing what movements like this do. That's why 407 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: it's just so massively important that I feel like people 408 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: of good conscience draw lines to what, like what we 409 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: are demanding of people in office to do, because I mean, yes, 410 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: there is a ton we can do as people as well, 411 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: but like without codified laws and things like that to 412 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: truly like create some kind of safeguard, there's there's I mean, 413 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: it's only going to get worse and but then at 414 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I find myself being like, 415 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: come on, y'all, the people who still have failed to 416 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: protect us forever. Maybe now I don't know, it's now 417 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: at the time, and maybe it could be because it's 418 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: like America, right, it takes a third degree burn for 419 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: them to realize that the stove is hot. It wasn't 420 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: enough when there was a sign that said the stove 421 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: is hot. It wasn't enough when your parents said the 422 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: stove is hot. It wasn't enough when you saw a 423 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: red hot fucking coil on the stove and you're like, 424 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: what is this? And now it's like the stove is 425 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: hot through something And I don't know, because now we 426 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: have people suddenly a lot of these politicians, especially white politicians, 427 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: are like, oh know, I normally like it would be 428 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: ship talking or something to deal with. I didn't realize 429 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: that like violence, could you could be confronted with violence 430 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: where many people that is a day to day reality, 431 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: not on its necessary that scale, but the the environment 432 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: in which you operate in is one of chaos and violence. 433 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: And now they're like they got a little taste that, like, 434 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: oh boy, dust off, I don't know, and it could 435 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: be for show. I don't know, but it was one 436 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: of those moments where it's like, God damn, they have 437 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: to fucking it has to pull up in front of 438 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: their face to figure it out. And that just makes 439 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: me so disheartened about That's why this death of black 440 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: and brown people continues. That's why we continue to funk 441 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: the earth up with all this, you know, the runaway 442 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: carbon emissions and lack of regulation in this country. That's 443 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: why people are falling by the wayside when it comes 444 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: to health because they don't know. They don't know it, 445 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: and unless it's them experiencing it first, it's like Megan McCain, 446 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: which is like I was against paternity leave till I 447 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: needed it. It's like exactly. And that's why none of 448 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: y'all motherfucker's have any kind of right to be in 449 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: any not that making mccannon's politician, but any of these 450 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: people have the right to call the shots for what 451 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: everyone else's existence is. And I hope we can also 452 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: have a reckoning for what we call a representative and government. 453 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: Not the coolest person from my hometown, the richest motherfucker 454 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: from my part of my state, who's been there forever 455 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: and the last name is like the person my parents 456 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: voted for. It's about fucking it's about your life. It's 457 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: about are these people there to do a job, which 458 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: is create stability and create just equality across the board. 459 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: But other I mean, it's they're they're all all kinds 460 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: of ways to message that. But I really want people 461 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: to begin to see that some of these people over there, 462 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: that you're that a lot of people fawn over on 463 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: the internet eight ship because they're not doing ship even 464 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: when they know what the answer is. And how long 465 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: are you going to excuse that? Because they've been excusing 466 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: that ship for years while other people have been bearing 467 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the brunt of that lack of action. Yeah, so funk 468 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: out of here with the incremental ship. Yeah. And like 469 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: people say, you know, this is not what America is. 470 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: Like I would really love to retire that phrase. Yeah, 471 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: check out the Childish Gambino video. This is it? Like 472 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: if you have I saw somebody tweet you know, if 473 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: you have to say this is not who America is, 474 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: every couple of weeks, maybe this is who America is. 475 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, just so many people are just in 476 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: such have such heavy resistance to to accept what this 477 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: country is um and unfortunately, too many people have a 478 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: blind spot. White people, White Americans just have this intense 479 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: blind spot for white supremacy, intense blind spot and they 480 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: and as a concept, they may say it exists, but 481 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: there's no that that hasn't connected to the intellectual part 482 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: that says, this is a construct of white supremacy that 483 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: everyone's operating, and it's just it expresses itself at every 484 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: possible turn, at every opportunity, it expresses itself in somewhere 485 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: or another. And the more people can get to that part, 486 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: then we can say, yeah, man, the this room, this 487 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: house is messy as fuck. Let's go get the vacuums, 488 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: let's go get the mops, let's go get the fucking windex. 489 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: Because right now, only half two people like, yo, this 490 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: motherfucker's think in here, and other people they're unfortunately their 491 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: fucking whole face is made of there weren't a fabrize 492 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: face mask, and they're like, I don't know what you're 493 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: talking about. And some people are like, the mask is 494 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: the fabreeze is wearing out a little bit. They're like, oh, ship, 495 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: maybe it stinks, but we're still far from that tipping point. 496 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: We need to reach to really have a reckoning. And 497 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: that's all I can just encourage people to do is 498 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: try and get to that point. And even if you 499 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: listen to this show every day and you're like, I 500 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: get it, man, this is fucked up, really try and 501 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: understand that this is an issue that we are we 502 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: have to interact with constantly, and even if you know 503 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: it's funked up, you have to be able to say, 504 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: hold on, this is I I see this here we 505 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: actually for for us to create some kind of equity. 506 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: That's how you empower yourself in moments like this too. 507 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: You have opportunities to try and dismantle white supremacy in 508 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: some fashion or at least take away just knee cap 509 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: it a little bit for people around you in your 510 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: workplace or how you conduct your own business. But really 511 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: think about what it means, especially for oppressed people in 512 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: this country, and what that lived experiences, because it's it's 513 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: it's awful, it's terrifying for many people. The last trend 514 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: we have on the dock, I don't think we're gonna 515 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: have time for John Dillermanned, which is a Denmark children's 516 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: show about a man with a huge uncontrollable penis. Um, wait, uncontrollable. 517 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: He he has no control. It's like in a Uh 518 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: all right, we have time. There's always time for a denom. 519 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: We have about a man with a giant, uncontrollable penis. 520 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: Uh so a white man? Uh yeah, yeah, all right, 521 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: maybe I'm off this ship then, uh mustachioed white man. 522 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean he looks like a lot of uncontrollable. Hold 523 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: on what is uncontrollable? People? That just sounds like something 524 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: awful and problematic. It's so massive and flexible it can 525 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: save children from danger, fetch objects from a river, and 526 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: operate as a pogo stick. But it sounds like it's 527 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: like kind of phantom or alien limb syndrome where it's 528 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: like has kind of a mind of its own. Um, 529 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: this is something they made for children. Um. In episode one, 530 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: for instance, Uh, this dude who looks like one of 531 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: the guys from the Capital Insurrection yesterday, wearing like a 532 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: striped bathing suit from the eighteen hundreds. Uh. He is 533 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: using his giant dick to as a leash for his dog, 534 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: but quickly finds himself inundated with request from his neighbors 535 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: to take their pets out for a walk with his 536 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: giant penis. At another point in this show, he has 537 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: he has stuck floating. Sorry I get emotional about this. 538 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: He has stuck floating in mid air after balloons are 539 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: tied to his Uh. The CNN article says his groin. 540 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't think that's accurate, right, Yeah, no, 541 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: no dick? Yeah? Um so yeah, we don't need you anymore, 542 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: Mr Bean. We got John Dillermann tripping over his dick 543 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: all over the place. I would kill to see this cartoon. Honestly, 544 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: I would kill to see this cartoon. Yeah, because I'm 545 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: like four kids. Well, Jack, you've got kids. Are you 546 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: gonna show it to your kids? Oh? Man? Uh, they're 547 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna be like daddy. It over It overlaps with a 548 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: lot of it, overlaps with a lot of the bedtime 549 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: stories I make up whose trunk is too long or something? 550 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: How how is this which all came on? Yeah? I 551 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: gotta see it because obviously, like, we're very puritanical here, 552 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to be like, am I being too 553 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: prudish by saying a man's penis should be saving kids? 554 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know about all that No, 555 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: you're not being too prudish, giant dick who Like, so 556 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: I was there, there is a movement that like you 557 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: want to uh like make your kids comfortable with you know, 558 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: their penis there, but so that they're not like weirded out, 559 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: like it doesn't open them up to shame if like 560 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's somebody around them who is inappropriate in 561 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: any way. Um, so that like you just wanna when 562 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: I was a kid called it our heine and like 563 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: we didn't even mention the penis, uh and now like 564 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: we call it poop and butt and pen and like 565 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: so I could see it being like a part of 566 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: that overall movement to just like familiarized kids. But this 567 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: is like a weird way to do it. A man's 568 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: penis can't save a child and also should not be 569 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: touching a child. That's what I mean. The second the 570 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: saying that the penis is out in front of kids, 571 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: the show is canceled. Well, it's it's in his it's 572 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: part of his striped like for so it's in a 573 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: like enormous seeing it. Yeah, it looks like a where's 574 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Waldo has a big fire hose penis? Yeah, Um, anyways, 575 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: I no Dane is that gang? I know you're out there. 576 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: Help me understand. Yeah, y'all hooked me up when I 577 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: was in Copenhagen, you know what I mean, Like, help 578 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: me understand from the Danes perspective, from the green Viking people. 579 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: I like the idea. I mean, I don't know if 580 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: this is part of it, but I like the idea 581 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: of things that help kids not feel embarrassed about their 582 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: body parts. When I was very young, I audibly farted 583 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: in front of the class, and it low key ruined 584 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: my life. And I I remember thinking, am I the 585 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: only person who farts? I would have loved a little, 586 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: a little like something to normalize it? Rigid you thought 587 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: you were the only person that farted. Think because they'll 588 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: react people class. I was like, it's funny, yeah, oh man, 589 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: fart sor. I grew up fart friendly. Every generation on 590 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: both side, all black and Japanese, big fart fans. My 591 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: my dad's dad, he had. He still does it. He'll fart. 592 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: He'll be like h and that's what he does when 593 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: he farts, what'd you say? And that's what he does 594 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: every time? And then other you know everyone. There's bits 595 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I could do the Japanese ones. But if they're not 596 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: many Japanese speakers won't make as much sense. But yes, 597 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: be fart friendly, you know, just in Kentucky. Shame in 598 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: our bodies. One of my friends Dad's in Kentucky. You 599 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: say on a bull frog? Yeah, step on a frog. 600 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: I love its good guys ending your colloquial descriptions of 601 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: farts regionals to get our minds off this. Simon and 602 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: Schusters has decided to councel publication of Senator John Nor. 603 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Trader asked Josh Holly's forthcoming book, The Tyranny 604 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: of Big Tech. Oh my god, Oh how could they 605 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: but the money you could have made? Wow, we should 606 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: give them a gold star. I hate this dude so much, 607 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: like really really something about Like it's kind of a visceral. 608 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. He just reminds me of every kid 609 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: I knew who played lacrosse and you knew. You know, 610 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: It's like there's something about him he really gets to me. 611 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I have a very 612 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: a very deep in my bones is how tight his 613 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: suit is. Like He's like, you know, I'll be working now. Yes, Josh, 614 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: who like went to funk. What's that like ancient school 615 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: in England like St. Mark's or whatever you taught at, 616 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: like the most privileged motherfucker. And he's trying to parade 617 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: around like fucking man of the people who has never 618 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: touched skin with a person who had worked on wages. 619 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: The way that he talks, you would think he grew 620 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: up as a coal miner. Is prep school, right, you 621 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: know Yale all that ship. It's like, come on now, 622 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: get the funk out. And and I guess that's the 623 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: That's the thing too, is we have this other breed 624 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: of politician that is ivy league educated, great looking on paper, 625 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: but they are singular in their goal for like personal 626 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: gain at any cost. That's what Ted Cruz and Josh 627 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: Hollywood being like, oh wow, y'all holy shit, Like okay, 628 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's why it's funny that Chris Coons, 629 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: who loves him a Republican, is now like, yeah, I 630 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: think Josh Holly and uh Senator crews need to resign. Yeah. 631 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really something. But it wasn't It 632 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: wasn't enough the whole time here. But I think that's 633 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: why I, like, you get really upset with these people 634 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: too who are like whatever, you just chose not to 635 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 1: make it hot because the polls or whatever the funk 636 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: rather than what was right. M Well, Bridget, it has 637 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: been Uh, we really appreciate you coming on and yeah, 638 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you, see you. Yeah, honestly, 639 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: this is if I sound a little strange because the 640 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: last hours have been very strange, but this has been 641 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: the highlight. Yeah, this has been the highlight. You know. 642 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: It's it's nice to chop it up with you two always. Yeah, 643 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: where can people find you and hear you and experience you. Well, 644 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: if you want to hear more about tech and all 645 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: of the ways that these dudes are using it to 646 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: ruin our lives and also some like fun happy stuff 647 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: as well, you can check out my podcast on iHeart 648 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: Radio called They're No Girls on the Internet and you 649 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: want to follow me on Twitter, I'm at Bridget Murray 650 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: and on Instagram I'm at Bridget Murray in d C. Yeah, alright, 651 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 1: that is going to do it for this episode. We're 652 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. 653 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, 654 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: wear a mask, stay inside, don't do nothing about white supremacy. 655 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: I'll touch you all tomorrow. Bye bye M