WEBVTT - Episode 376 w/ Jim Jones 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.080 He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast man. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.880 He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.360 He ain't s agreed. That is your boy in O 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:18.720 r E. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.680 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer, one up as d 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:22.599 J e f N. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.600 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:26.160 you know what I mean. 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.560 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.000 source for drunk fast. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.080 Drink chants most every days New Year's c Listen, it's 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:36.760 time for drink champs. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:46.000 Drink up mother? Would it good be? Hope? Hees what 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:46.479 it should be. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.880 This is your boy n O r E. Usually is 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.600 e f N here. He's sick today, so we we 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:58.160 we so we we replaced it with the smoke Champs, 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.280 But make some noise with drink Chopper. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.760 Right now. Who we got in the building is you know. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.440 We've been giving this tribute to loyal people, to people 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:16.000 that's you know, that's bosses in their own rights for 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.040 people that's legendary. This man, I've seen him when he 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.640 used to buy five Nichols. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.720 Fly Fly came a long way. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.319 This motherfucker is a hustler's hustler. I see them film 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.160 his own videos I've seen them record himself. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.920 I see them, you know, take sisser and put it 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:43.400 on his back and go state to state, worldwide, do 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.520 a mixtape. This motherfucker is a man's man. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:51.920 He's a legend, legend, and I personally want to start 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.760 this interview off by giving him his flowers off. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:02:01.360 Goddamn time, Jones. We started this show. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.320 We wanted to give legends legends, they props, and we're 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:05.000 gonna start it off. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:11.480 I'll giving you your actual flyers snoop dog things like 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:20.880 a Grammy your people. Come on. Yes, that's right. Happy, 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.880 Let's let's bring that cake out. Let's bring that cake out. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.000 Look at that takeout. That's how you know niggas. Niggas 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.840 like with the cake out, we were gonna fast. You 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.320 gotta looking crazy. So Jones, what's going on? 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:34.560 Man? 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:35.560 Happy birthday? Thank you. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.120 I appreciate the love. Yes, appreciate love. The wealthy years. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.440 We've been doing quite some time, man. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.280 Yes, so let's let's talk about the knockout. It is 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.560 that your that's uh. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.799 One of the strands I got do business with a 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.200 company called how Tolerance probably got the best weed in 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:54.040 the world right now. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.359 They've been going hard but this is what I got. Knockout. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.480 I got like five six strands of it, different types 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.160 of different different types of knockout and ship like that. Yeah, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.679 it's different types of all types of I'm running. You know, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.040 I've been smoking weight for a long time and feel 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.480 good to have some good weed and do some good 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:12.240 we business, you. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:12.520 Know what I mean? 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.160 Right right? 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.840 So how did you hook up with how tolerance? 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.440 My man Snacks actually put that together for me. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.919 He built, He built the bridge snags in Big Bully shouts, 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:28.040 the big shouts, the Big Bully shot Bully, Bully ohs 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:28.960 in the middle of different things. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:33.320 So they bully of that, yeah vs. Trade songs. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:38.600 Big Bully, you know Big Bully's official original diplomat. Remember, like, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.840 like what you're seeing with all of them, that's just 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.040 a reflection of him staring with us. I didn't know 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.520 that Bully with me since he was a teenager. Oh, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.800 let me see that. Like, I'm a big Bully in Miami, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.320 you know I met Big Bully is crazy. If he's 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.280 in Miami one of the Memorial Day weekends. You know 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.640 how crazy used to be back in these Memorial Probably 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.720 it's like ninety nine maybe when we had to sit there, okay, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:02.520 and then. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.240 What is that? This is months? 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.840 I got it, I got I got it, I got it, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:11.200 I got And then I'm walking down the strip and 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.800 I see big bully with a whole big cooler with 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.920 man scissors, and then he's selling scissors for like two. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.000 Hundred dollars a bottle on a strip of Miami. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.320 I'm like, oh, now, your hustle is impeccable. I took 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:21.600 his number. I sad, let me get your number, of 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.960 young man. I like, got you doing? And I just 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.360 kept him with me since then there make some books. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.240 Just bring over to you. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.120 I just I just did a cool little deal. I'm 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.680 into the liquor business again again Corneac. We got champagne, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.520 all right, I got the Kansas champagne. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.440 Also, what's the champagne? Hold on? 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:46.880 Because I'm a bust with Oh sexy ship, old ship 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.000 as hot as a motherfucker, but as sexy. Yeah, let's 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:55.320 drink weak cold. Yeah, a celebration. I'm just showing him 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:56.040 in the business that I'm in. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.640 And what's jade as jadah j. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:09.120 On Friday? 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.560 Someone is your doll that sells the water. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:18.240 And the cat. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:21.040 Stick with me? 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.720 So check it because I remember I remember before you 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.839 hold on because it's grasses, right. I don't like how 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.599 you moving, Okay, okay, I don't like how you. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:36.760 Moving. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.240 Like how you moving. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:42.680 Was here. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:53.080 You got ye thank yeah, I go to bitsiness frames. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.080 I love you to death for that. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.360 Man, That's why I with you. But let me ask you. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.800 Okay, I remember, I remember you before you uh uh 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.280 uh had the Scissor. You was going to people and 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.279 getting burses from people. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.040 He was putting together a mixed take. Yet, so is 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.360 this something you're gonna do with with this? Like that 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.840 was the worst time I've ever seen a clicker be 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:14.840 promoted to a mixtape. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.880 I'm gonna do the full on marketing the same way 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.440 I was doing with Scissor, but it's a little bit 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.239 more better now because you got I g got social 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:22.800 media and we didn't have none of that, but we 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.680 were doing the scissors. Now we got access to all that. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.400 So the marketing strategy is gonna be man. You deep, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.760 You're like, I come up from the era of the 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.920 Saintan's era, when Snoop Dogg and all of them were 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.960 doing all them Satan's commercials, the commercials we fell in 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:35.800 love with the commercials that. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.479 Made us go to the store and buy Saint Ives. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.000 That's the whole thing that I'll be trying to do 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:41.480 with the liquors that I get involved with, you know 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.640 what I mean? So man, why you ain't bring the 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:44.080 cake yet? 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:47.720 The cake man? 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.840 Come on, we're gonna sink that Cooper. Y'all your family 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.440 and come on, bring them the cake, Jamie, bring the cake, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:07:16.360 No niggas, Happy birthday. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.280 Jim, Thank you, my brother. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.560 What you're doing this whole week You got a whole weekend. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.000 Yeah, you got a whole weekend. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.440 I gotta I gotta party in Exchange tonight because the 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.160 birthday coming to twelve o'clock. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.720 Exchange, not the old mister Jones. Right, that's on. That's 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:29.240 on the beach. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.400 Okay, and tomorrow I got an actual pop up concert 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.960 uh skate park called skate Bird. I got a bunch 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.040 of people perform especially from the crib. Shouts the ball, greasy, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.320 shout the top, Yeah, shouts the mellow racks, shouts to 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:48.520 Zoe dollars, shouts to be money fat Joe, hit me, Mellie. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.960 It's a live don't forget me on the field. I 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:54.840 was calling everybody know, all came together. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.320 Then after that do some booby trap and Sunday we 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.640 got church. We're going to live baby, We're gonna go 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:01.440 crazy in there. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.880 Mike Gardner, of course, Mike, God, it ain't nothing like 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:07.960 a headline of Puss. That's my boy. Baby. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:09.800 Let me let me ask you because there's a rumor 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.400 that the first time we ever got to see Game 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.560 was in the Jim Jones video. Is that absolutely truth? 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.600 So so game was signed? How did you how did 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:19.560 you find out about Game? 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.600 The homies was like, uh yo, you know, easy, he 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:25.120 got a son. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.880 He'd be rapping bloody blood. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.800 He going crazy, like in New York. That's all he said. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:29.640 He got a son. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.920 Bro name is Games And then the game had the 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.120 big easy Okay. So no, there's no social media and 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.319 none of that. This South, We're thinking, oh, this is 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.280 easy son. So I heard I had somebody find him 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.439 like not an easy son, but you know, easy to 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.280 guard out of there. I actually bring actually had Game 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.079 and his best friend full Ben. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.000 I flew him from l A to New York. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.559 They first trip to New York, but that video you 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.320 saw was in LA though. That was in LA. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.240 After we started having a reship and forming a brotherhood 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.800 and things like that that I went to Uh, I 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.440 went to Bompton to go shoot the Certified Gangster this video, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.960 which was the first video that people got to glint some. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.199 Game and I got in, but I didn't get in 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:09.720 any trouble. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.360 I remember Doctor Dre was heard after math was a 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:13.880 little heated. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.880 I heard Doctor d was, Oh yeah, held see that 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.480 he tried to call the office and tell Cosh Records 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.359 to have them take that video. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.760 Down or something like something something something, And. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:29.719 I'm good for still like still, but he said something 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:30.599 to the fact that he didn't need to. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:31.720 He didn't want the video up. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.120 I guess very aggressively, and my respond was very aggressive, 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.719 and the video stayed up, and people who got to 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.880 see game and enjoy certified against us to this day. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.319 All right, because I'm not gonna lie. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.080 Jim, you know you you're a homide. But I still 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.600 had to do research like like a regular. You discovered 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:49.240 a lot of ship. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.880 Yeah, yeah, I bet I had my hands on Soldier 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.480 Boy on the Law. Yeah I was. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.400 I was Sodier Boy before Solacie Boy. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:58.320 I seen. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.480 I actually was that Soldier Boys first show in Atlanta 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.160 when he was like, this kid is the phenomenon. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:03.320 He came up going. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.720 Superman. I don't know what this nigga he was doing. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.320 He was funny dancing and the he was like, he's. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:08.719 The next one. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.840 He had the big ass clothes on. Shouts to that boy. Man, 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.640 he's very ahead of his time. But yeah, I mean 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.400 I have my hands in a lot of people and 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.480 helping a lot of people, even making them the right 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.959 decisions for them to get to that successful point in 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:21.640 their career. 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:21.920 And things like that. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:23.480 Like I was, I was in the beginning of a 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.640 lot of people's career. Shot said Kevin Gates. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:25.800 Man. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.720 That's one of my that's one of my favorite stories 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:28.320 of all times. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:29.839 Kevin Gate tell us the Kevin Gate story. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.120 Uh, I believe I got a call from was it 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:37.600 Tash Cash Money? I think it was Tas and one 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.199 of them called me like, yo, bird Man trying to 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.800 sign his artist. His name is Kevin Gatesey just came 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.600 home from jail. It's the biggest thing going in. Birdman 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.640 trying to sign it. But we got one problem. He's 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.920 not going to sign the Birdman unless he meets Jim Jones. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.240 I was like, what they was like yeah, man, he 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.000 in the city right now. Can we bring him to 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.640 you because Burrman needs to sign this artist. I'm like, yeah, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.840 tell him, pull up, Kevin Gates, pull up. He still 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.080 had on the khakis, still looking like he was fresh 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:01.680 out of jail. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:02.800 Got it in. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.880 I just felt his energy that you you you knew 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.120 he was one of the us, that he came from 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.839 the same places we came from, and things like that. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.000 We sat in there, did like five records that night. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.760 And after that, Cash Money got to do Bennis with Wow. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.600 I said, I never never that, So he's cat Money 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:18.960 right now. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.040 That was like when his first did when he first 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:23.679 came to the game. That was like one of his 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.320 first situations was with cash Money. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.480 You can look it up. I never knew that. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.559 Of course, this is just for everybody. This was on 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.240 the table. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.880 Our garar sal He got some flavor outside. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.719 Past. See you outside of your body. Let me get 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:53.679 let me get pass off, smoke more and more money. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.680 That's you, right, how tolerance, that's your tolerance. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.040 That's my calling the many right there, that's that's mister 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:02.920 hot Tea himself. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:16.000 I'm gonna take it home. Yeah, yo, take that face 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.040 off your man. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:23.480 Are you feeling my brother? 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.079 Man, I appreciate you being there for me. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.199 Man, they're gonna get me back. I'll bet there with you. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:33.960 Swing Broke, I ain't going nowhere. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:35.800 Keep your on the gas. 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.040 I'ma be waiting for you soon as you touch back. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:39.400 Nigg We're gonna do it different this time. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:40.000 Know you're hurt. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.800 Man, I'm focused, Broke, your brother focused, Man. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.319 That's all you need to be is focused, Nigga. I 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.200 love you to definitely. Nothing gonna change. You've been doing 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.240 this long. I ain't gonna stop now, my brother, you hurt. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:50.760 I know you've already been there for me. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.000 Man, I appreciate it. Man. Just keep you full on 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.360 the gas, Manna tell puts your team. Man, they keep playing. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:10.680 I love you to death. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:11.520 I love you to death. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.760 Stroke Many, we're cool and we're cooling. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:15.040 Man. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.439 It's cancer is cancer season, Nigga. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:19.560 You know what it is, Nigga. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:20.760 I said it's cancer season. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.040 Nigga. I'm just. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.040 Like you back your brother right here. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.280 Yeah, what's up? 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:30.440 Bro? 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:36.800 We love your baby. Fixed Stroke. We smokeing. We're smoking 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:37.679 knockout all day. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.760 We're gonna we're gonna knock ourselves out today with Jimmy Man, 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:44.080 we love you bro. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.120 Shows. So what were you talking about before there saying. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.760 You're talking about different I was a soldier boy before, 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.200 so you're talking about Kevin Gates. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.480 A lot of stories like that, like, uh, what's the 0:13:58.520 --> 0:13:59.600 dude that same Day and Night? 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.280 Kick Cutty, you know how he was? How you got 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:04.920 to start him? 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:09.080 No, dudes wanted to direct the video for me at 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.160 the time, and I was like, Ship, let me see 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:13.320 some of the videos your director. 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.480 So he came to my studio, played the video they directed. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.520 Video they directed was called it was Day and Night 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.120 with Kik Cuddy and he was on the roof looking crazy. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:20.280 And ship like that. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.520 I'm like, I'll let you do the video if you'll 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:23.880 tell his kid give me his beat so I could 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:24.520 do the remix. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:25.800 I could remix his record. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.560 Whoa it was like it was so did the video 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.240 remix the record? Just put it up on the internet. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.480 Somebody ripped it off the internet from high ninety seven 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.000 and they started playing it at Hot ninety seven and 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.520 that's how Kik cut They ended up getting this deal 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.040 and they cut me out the deal because he was Uh. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.640 I forgot one of them, the Cassidy or a or 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.040 a Rex and whatever, one of them one of them 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:46.840 dudes and ship like that. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.760 That's one of your most played records, right. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.600 You did played that. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:58.280 Id because me outside looking in, I thought he had 0:14:58.320 --> 0:14:58.600 the deal. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.280 It was it was lit and then you I'm doing 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:00.440 it that. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:02.440 He didn't have no deal. He was working in the 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.440 he was working in the rock and roll store under 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:05.120 Cotch Records. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.920 He was in nobody. He didn't he wasn't even think 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.720 about a deal. He just was working on his craft 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.520 and doing. He was working in a rock and roll store. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:13.080 He always was. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.560 I used to se him all the time, always with 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.400 Slim Jean. He worked under Coatch. That's the craziest thing. 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.240 He didn't know who he was. But I used to 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.440 go in the store on bodies, bottle cap belts all 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.360 the time and he used to help me out all 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.520 the rock and roll clothes and. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:25.920 Ship like that. 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.400 And then when they showed me the video, I'm like, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.840 I noticed kid, like he's working and I just did 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:30.240 the video. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.600 I mean nothing, nobody he did like it. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.600 Just that was just that was the path that God 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.360 had him, Like you were about to go on right 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.200 now as soon as Jones do this record and after 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:44.080 that out of here, I don't really getting too many 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.320 things and like that, I'm. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.120 Cool with It's like that, I'm cool with. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.000 Another one is Meek. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:51.280 Uh. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.680 I was just happy to be a part in the 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.880 very beginning when Meek was trying to get his deal 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:57.400 and things like that. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.880 Damn what would meet? 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.400 Yeah, because remember he was signed the Tea out first, right. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.720 I don't remember him being signed to Tea, But I'm 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.680 gonna tell you the story that I had with him. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.960 They was bringing him up to UH to the to 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.960 my studio in man hand, like every week, like it was. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.960 I was seeing me a lot like just he was 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.720 trying to find figure out, figure out what he was 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.320 doing and shit like that. He was always coming up 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.240 to New York and come to the studio and one 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.320 day were just having a conversation and shit like that, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:23.960 and he was talking about I don't even know if 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.840 he remembers this, I got this, I got this all 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.560 on footage too, and shit like that. We was having 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.880 a conversation and he was telling me about being a 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.240 mister getting a deal and he got a lot of 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.000 people offering them situations, labels and all that. So at 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.520 that time, I was kind of in the midst of 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.600 my way out of the music, like I was disgusted 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.080 with it. I really didn't want to be involved with it. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.040 I didn't know where I was at, like, you know, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:47.880 for myself. So I was like, in my mind, I 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.960 was like, I could never try to sign a person 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.200 like Meek at that time and don't have a direction 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:55.400 for myself and things like that. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:56.720 This's what I'm thinking eternally. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.480 So I was acting like, so who you got on 0:16:58.560 --> 0:16:59.840 the table and things like that, and I can't re 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:01.880 all the labels, but I do remember he was like, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.119 and Rick Ross want to sign me too, And this 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.920 is when Rick Ross was on Fire fire Ball Like what, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.119 I'm like, you said, Ross want to sign it. I'm like, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.840 you need to do the Ross situation, like go Ross 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.480 and you ain't on turn back here on fire You're 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:18.160 gonna come up. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.440 And next thing you know, he took you know what 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:22.639 I mean. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.639 I mean, I just know the next I had that 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.840 conversation and the next thing, you know, he ended up 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:28.280 with that deal and took off. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.880 I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm boss. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:36.280 I tell you, I tell you it's crazy about Meek 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.600 mill One night we was in Prime one twelve oball places. 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.440 I'm there with Fat Joe and Fat Joe access him. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:46.960 This is like when me was like just getting like 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.640 to where he's supposed to be and Fat Joe asked him. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:50.760 He was like, y'all want you to do a record 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.840 with my new artist. And he looked Fat Joe in 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.800 his face and he said no. He said, I'll do 0:17:55.880 --> 0:18:00.000 a record with you, but I'm trying to be hold status. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.720 That was some cocky ship to say, but listen, it 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.040 made sense. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.440 That he's dead because you know, it's me and Fat 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.280 Jad and you know we we like veterans, we're not 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.280 used to getting told no. Although I didn't have nothing 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.200 to do with the conversation, I was just listening, and 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:20.600 I always remembered that I. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.119 Was like, you know, he said, he's trying to get 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.480 but he did. What you said makes a lot of sense. 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.160 And I always tell people that it was a time 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.560 that he felt the void for the Hustles, especially from 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.520 the East coast, up top perspective that we didn't have 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.760 at that time, and he came in and filled that 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.520 ship up completely. Like the new generation you me is 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.240 coming to hustling scamming the whole new waiver getting money 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.600 and ship like that. He represents so much like you're 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.320 absolutely right, he stepped in and went whole status for 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.119 generation generates. Yeah, like a hundred percent, Like I tipped 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.040 my hat the cousin. I tell him that all the time, like, boy, 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.159 you like Martin Luther king out here and things like that, 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.760 Especially that transition when he got locked up and he 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.920 came back in like he was just looking like Superman. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.480 Ways mean, you get invited to the White Party. 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:06.040 No, I don't get invited. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.120 Tell me, I say, I'll get to the White Morning. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:17.160 I'm a I'm a link into gett with Mica whole. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:18.040 I ain't gonna love. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:21.639 I know, I've still got ways to go. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.800 I see Michael moving after that, Right there was the 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:26.880 nigga said yeah you jay Z friend, Right, I said, 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.920 damn prod jay Z friend. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.240 So that and this is this is the reason why 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.280 I have a conversation with people like we have enough 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:38.720 power to do our own white party. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.520 Why in no district you have your white weekend? Michael moving? 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.359 And this is not about that. 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.120 It's about the power that we had that he's tapping into, 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:48.720 because you know, we have that we. 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:49.840 Need to come back out. 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.960 We did he to come back the Black Park, the 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:55.680 Black Party. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.280 But it's not even about a black of white thing. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:58.760 It's just that we have the power to do the 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.480 same type of things that we see and we all 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.159 and a group of people like so it should be 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.760 no problem for us to come to Our problem is 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.280 it's so hard for us to come together and do 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:11.720 things together. Of that. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:14.520 You did like, you never get it. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.399 We never get that off and ship like that, and 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.200 we give it to somebody else and then we all 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.399 and then they all get the credit of the culture 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.240 that we all sat here. And what's the ass from 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.320 from the project to get money to you heard now, 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.200 we want to be invited to other people events that 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:26.960 we should be having. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.159 It's true, but I still want to be invited though 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:33.720 I ain't gonna do something. 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.480 But I really like the rough shoulders with the people 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.399 that I fuk with this ship like that, no disrespecting 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.040 avidy and I like new people, and I like new 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:42.560 money and all that type of ship too, and ship 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.280 like that, but I don't that ship don't impress me 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:45.240 too much about. 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.080 I always want to get invited to the bodies and 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.280 then when they invite me, I'll be like, approach. 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.080 Understand what it is, though, like you understand what it is. 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.600 That's a different type of I need. I need to 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.280 be in this like that's a different type of I 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:06.600 got it. 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:07.760 I gotta get in. 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.080 The bunches crazy. I got to write into the brunch. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.879 I never actually went yes, tell us it's just as 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:14.280 bribe to us from people. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.440 Who's not to the brunch. I can't allow that. Brunch 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.200 has been one of the endless events that I've been to, 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.800 and it's definitely might as well. They went around with 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.520 the shoulder pouring over the place. Rich people all over 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.520 the places, actors all over the place. I'm talking about 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:33.480 X men, actors, fighter man, all type of people. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.920 And here's a million dollar Does Jim Jones go by herself? 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.680 Do you bring freaking who you go to to the 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.560 brunch with? I bring a few people, you plus one? 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:49.520 I bring with me. Ellie Shula really like five people 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:49.920 one time? 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.520 Like you gotta plus five? 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:55.760 Might I might not? 0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:00.159 I might be plus zero m minus you and is 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:01.000 zero next time. 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.760 But with the Vigil party, the Louis Vuiton party, it 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.160 was just me and my wife. I was like I'm 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.920 out a lot, like should I be talking to the podcast? Wow? 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.120 Just me and my wife, but you with a plus 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:16.520 five holy ship to the brunch and we didn't do 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.680 it like both and bad. It was like secret service time. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.440 I know, Yeah, I got I got to I got 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.400 to check home, go over that way and meet you inside. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:27.359 Thinking because you heard. 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:31.600 Right, Yeah, I mean, yes, I'm I'm Rock Nason. I 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.920 don't know if I'm still on the roster, but yes, 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.360 the last time I checked I was, I was Rock Nation. 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:39.040 Shouts the Rock Nation. 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:39.320 Man. 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:41.639 That's a great bunch of people over there have They 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:43.399 have opened up a lot of doors for me do 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.800 me settling in our differences and things like that, which 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.080 is one of the biggest opportunities that I got from 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:49.920 being over there and things like that. For me, it 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:51.879 wasn't really about money. I know, I had put myself 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:53.600 in a corner coming up in this game for a 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.119 lot of things that I've done and things like that, 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:56.639 and me being able to do that move was one 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.440 of the smartest moves that I was able to do 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.560 because it started to open up a lot of the 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:02.520 doors that was closed for me and started opening up 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.680 different business that I could do with different people because 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:06.920 they see that I was in a different space to 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.240 be able to sit down and do that with the 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.000 hole and all that shots the whole and shit like 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.960 that shouts the og forgiving me the opportunity to understand 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:16.879 the type of person I am and shit like that. So, 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.360 you know, I definitely took my hat to them every time. 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.679 I got to show ultimate respect for what they did 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:23.119 and allowed me to do and shit like that. 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:23.640 You know what I mean. 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.080 You know, it's something that I recently we had Tony 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.240 YAlO on and it's something that I got to credit 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:33.560 you for. So it's so like y'all guys were so 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.440 loyal to the brand, so loyal to what y'all was repping. 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.720 Did that ever like come back and haunt you? Because 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.160 Yao said, I said, I asked to me. He said, 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:43.760 it's still owed me. 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.040 Yes, I mean, things that I've done back then, it 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.879 definitely still haunts me to today. I mean in different 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.800 type of ways. It's not as bad as they used 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.760 to do. But we were doing a lot for the 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.159 sake of the dipset hear. We did a lot, and 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:57.840 we put it all on the line for our brand, 0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.840 and that was the greatest thing that we could ever 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:01.560 I did, and I had the ball doing it, and 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.159 I would do it all again in the same way 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.119 with nothing different if they gave me another chance to 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:05.359 do it. 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.159 Anything you regret, I don't have no regrets. 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:09.879 I take my lessons from the things that I did 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:11.960 that I should have did better, But for the most part, 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:13.560 I don't have I don't have no regrets. This is 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.040 a mission in life that God gave me and I'm 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.240 I'm gonna do it to the fullers. Even oh Coofie 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.359 list is still around. If people want to play with me, 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:25.440 did you I never I never got to uh, I 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.080 ever got to see now. I never got to sit 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.159 down and have a conversation with Nas and things like that. 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:31.680 I had caught you about it, things. 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.240 Like that that was like still one of the people 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.480 that I never got to have a conversation out throughout 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:36.920 my history of raping. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:37.320 Things like that. 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.480 I think I would love to have a conversation with Nas. 0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:41.560 I don't I wouldn't know if he knows it, but 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.960 Nas was one of my all time favorite rappers coming 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:46.639 up and things like that, I've heard you say that 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.320 since the barbecue and things like that, like he put 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.880 He really put the whole dope boy, rap, crack hustler, 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.800 get fresh rap into perspective before anybody else before her, 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.200 Jay do it before her anybody else, Like he changed 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.800 the cadence of rap into a whole different steam. Like 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.800 he's the one that broke the camel's back when it 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.480 came to artists like to me, when it came to 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.399 artists like Big Daddy Kane and all these artists that 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.320 came right or formed like after NAS came with that, 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:12.920 they started to fade out. 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.800 And then Jay Fat Joe like all of these rappers are. 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:18.800 Spitting about the light that we was really starting to 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.159 live right now and how it was changing like this 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.320 is you know what I mean? So that's that's how 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.840 I felt about that whole little situation and ship like that. 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.439 Uh so what so how hard is it? Right? 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:34.960 You having that love and you you you're saying what 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:39.520 you're saying and then you get a call yo, they 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.359 dis because I believe it was me, Cam. I was 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.119 a part of the disc that he did. You know that, right, 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.119 he did me, Cam, Nelly and Angie Martinez. 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:50.200 So how hard was that? 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.320 When you did you get a phone call or you 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:53.480 was it you calling Cam? 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:55.960 It wasn't even it wasn't. It wasn't even thought I 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:56.680 even thought about. 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:56.720 It. 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:57.840 Was like, let's go. 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.720 Ali Iverson Cross mind give the business. When he got 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.000 on that court, I understood that Simon. 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:06.320 As soon as we got signed to the game, I 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.959 understood that nobody was no longer my idol anymore. 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:10.560 They were my rivals and we had to treat it 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:10.840 as that. 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.400 And that's the that's the way we attacked the game 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.040 like it was nobody bigger than the set. 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.080 That's and that's what Cam was serious about, and things 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:18.320 like that. 0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.000 You know, as crazy as Cam could be at some times, 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:28.639 you're very smart, calculated, premeditated, like he's a he's a 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:30.920 demon when it comes to doing music, and it comes 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.800 to the whole blueprint of what we did, like you 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.359 know what I mean, like this whole diplomat thing. 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.479 He really kept us together and showed us a lot 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:38.240 of discipline when it. 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.119 Came to it, I mean as far as music and 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.240 keeping our balls up, Like Cam used to make us 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.480 write music every day and ship like that, like because 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.160 he knew what it took at the time to become 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.760 an artist. And at that time, bars were more important 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:49.280 than anything. 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:50.040 You had to have. 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:51.959 You had to be able to rap it. You had 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.200 to niggas tree styling all over the place and shit 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.680 like that. You might call the Norris over this session 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:57.959 might work out it. So it was like a lot 0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.800 of different things that he instilled in us early that 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:01.639 I said, I kept with me all the way to 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:02.560 this day and ship like that. 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:03.280 All right. 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.800 So, so did you ever worry about like, you know, 0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:07.480 you're making a record against nas this is one of 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.800 the greatest mcs of all time. Are you worried about 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.200 his response or that's something you won't even think about. 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.360 I wasn't even care about the response. I was about 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.240 the action. I was worried about the street. 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:21.920 What's next? How ya want to do this? 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.680 Like that? I would like at the time, rapping and 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.639 things like that was more of a cam thing, And 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.840 I just always had a way of talking and cams 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.640 always tell me, boy, if you could wrap the way 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.480 you talk and act outside, you're gonna get some money. 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:36.800 And he would do little things like that. That's why 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.320 you hear me doing all the talking in between, you 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:40.639 know what I mean. 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:41.840 Definitely a professional. 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.760 Yeah, yeah, So what's your favorite part of the game. 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.800 Is it making the music or performing the records? 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:54.879 I hate performing the records. You hate performing it? Hate 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.600 no fucking way making it better. 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.280 I mean I like on the music, and I mean 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.320 I still love hate thing to me and with performances 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:05.439 and things like that, you know what I mean. 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.200 I never thought that I would have lost the bat, 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.720 you would have lost the I thought, because you know, doing. 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.080 My research and we should say it like I hate it. 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.040 I hate it, but it's just like it's like I 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.720 don't know how to explain it and things like that. 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.720 I'll be definitely trying to It's like homework to me. 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.200 I'll be trying to get off the stage as fast 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:19.680 as I get. 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:20.159 On the stage. 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.360 WHOA, not as as you love? 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.520 I mean still not even after all these years and 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.600 things like that. I mean, I still I'm still in 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.560 my comfort zone when I am on stage. And don't 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.720 get me wrong, I've had some incredible shows and I 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.159 and we go into the fullest and ship like that, 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:34.280 but I still get a little. 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.680 Bit of butterflies and ship like that. When I go 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:36.040 up there. 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.640 Driving to the show, I'd be like, damn, man, you 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.240 still because. 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.440 I see you, I see you, I see you at 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.360 loves and friends. You go back to that you and 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.360 jewels that love us and friends. So I stood there 0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.640 and I just watched it, and I feel like y'all 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:49.800 was enjoying yourself. 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:51.960 Like there's certain people that I watch. I can't say 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.760 they name, but they get on stage. As soon as 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.920 they get off, they throw the mic and they just 0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.920 angry because they've been because they have to pay their bills. 0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.760 They're not there because they want to, you know what 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.560 I'm saying, saying saying. So when I'm looking at you 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.120 and Joel's I'm like, damn, it was so natural to me. 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:07.720 I would have never thought I got to. 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.520 Pay the bills too. But today, like it's like my 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.320 back it's against the wall. I'm definitely going for the bag. 0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.160 But a couple of performances and things like that, and 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.360 it's like it's like it's levels, Like you go to 0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:17.240 certain places. 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.480 You're like, I gotta go up to level eight. 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.280 Oh, I gotta go up to that was a level ten, 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.640 Like go up to level ten, but it ain't no 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:24.920 way about it, and things like that. 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.080 That's just the whole mentality. Soon as I grabbed the mic, 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.760 I'm on ten. What's what's your number one place to 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:30.240 perform at? 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:31.479 Like what you mean? 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:32.000 Like me? 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.040 Like me, Like I can never have a bad show 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.000 in Connecticut. I can never have a bad show in Philadelphia. 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.760 Like I don't give a fuck. I could have a 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.560 pimple on my eye, like this, Philly still coming out 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.440 for me. Connecticut is still coming out for me. 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.640 I mean the Midwest be pretty strong. 0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:47.840 Shah, that's crazy. 0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.240 They be pretty strong for the kid. You know, the 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:55.360 Yorkers are given. Connecticut is a given, like the East 0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:59.000 Coast pocket like that, like that, like it's it's it 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.280 gets tricky when you star going to the West Coast 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.640 and you know, the music is different out there, and 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:06.280 if you don't got no hits that they couldn't know 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.400 because they was on the radio and everybody know, then 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.400 it's like you just rapping and looking at you like yeah, 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.080 all right, so you gotta I gotta do a whole show. 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.840 And I might have five or six songs that everybody know, 0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.800 but I got to do fifteen songs for the rest 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:32.360 of the fifty songs. They like, yeah, you know, like 0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.640 what And I'm like yo, you look at but you're 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:46.920 like yo, yo, put that reggae show I'll look at 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.120 the crowd immediately going. 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.480 To crowd participation like a motherfucker show. 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.360 You still got the hottest records of wherever you at 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.400 that you can playing ship like that, get the vacuum, 0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.680 so you know, but it is it's the road, man, 0:30:58.720 --> 0:30:59.720 You know how the road is. Man. 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.640 I think the new generation got the worst because they 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.760 just like they dis like them for a minute, booms over. 0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:06.200 They want to hear the next new ship. You know. 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:07.600 Oh no, I listened. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:08.360 I don't know. 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.240 I ain't gonna lie. My my son took me to. 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.360 A concert with an artist by the name of Lucky 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:16.040 from Chicago. 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.440 You'll know who Lucky is from. 0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:22.240 Like we know because we want to be Lucky. I'm Lucky. 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.680 Lucky is popping like uh he had to. I was 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:28.760 forgot the name of the club that's off the West 0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.640 Side Highway. He had that ship ran wall of wall 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.760 soul out. These kids were singing every word for world 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:35.080 for the whole duration of. 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.240 While he was up there, And I did not know 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.440 who this kid was at all at all. 0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.800 Mine my son was asking me to go to this 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.600 concert for months and they't like, you're gonna call me? 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:45.360 I said, yeah, why not? 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.000 Because I was curious to know who this kid was. 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.719 When they went in there, boy, them kids was going crazy. 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.840 I'm talking marsh Pitton going crazy singing that he words 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.840 this ship bro. Like yo, bro, they got some of 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.280 these young kids got their ship together. Like you know, 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.280 we sot up in our ways, but not caught up 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:01.680 in our ways. 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.360 That's how we came up. We used to the radio, we. 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.520 Used to we knowing what what the it is because 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.160 we hear it all over them. Was like, nah, Like 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.840 I watched a couple thousands of kids singing word for 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:13.840 word records that I didn't even know. 0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:14.840 None of them. 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.120 I'm telling I didn't know not one record that that 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.320 kid was singing, and all the kids was wrapping world 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:21.760 for work. 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.280 I mean at that at that point, it's rocking if you. 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:28.360 Like I didn't. 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.920 I so like, like I went to my son's school 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.680 and did parents teach to day one time years ago, 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.120 and I was like, yo, who's your favorite rapper? 0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:38.080 It was like ex ex test on. 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:48.840 I'm like this before you call him, That's what I'm like, Dave. 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.600 This is before he got signed to a dealer like 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:51.480 x X. 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:52.480 I'm like. 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:58.040 He was like, Dad, I'll tell you later, but it 0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.840 showed me the kid and ship like that, and I'm like, 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.240 this is crazy, this this is the kid that's popping. 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:09.480 A few months later, boris still a lot of It's 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.320 just like when we were coming up. These kids are 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.000 these kids of the whole this is this is Chris. 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.720 I'm on the interview, were talking about XT you know, 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.200 I'm talking on basically how these new artists got they 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.360 think set the same way that we had. 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.240 I think set well, we were coming. 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.640 Up, we knew all the artists that was popping before 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.360 they even got to the radio. We didn't have the Internet, 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.040 but we had the mixtapes and it's how we were 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.320 dictating who was the next who and we knew all 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:37.520 the freestyles and things like that. 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:38.680 And now it's the same way. 0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.920 But it's even in look, because they have access to 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.080 the internet, had their own world that we really don't 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.120 know too much about as much as we think we know. 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:48.760 We're going through your disciography. 0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:50.880 One thing that I noticed is that's one thing that 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.200 I really see is you make global music, Like you 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:55.760 know what I'm saying. You don't make music that just 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:57.880 sound like a New York artist. Is that something you 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.800 did did on purpose, because like I hear West Coast influence, 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.120 and another another thing I hear, damn, and another thing 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:09.800 I hear, yeah, right, another thing I hear. 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.960 And the music is you sampled? Like how could you 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.840 be independent as sample? Because that's expensive. I was counting. 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:19.240 I was kind. 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:27.360 Like, yo got, I was like, I was counting the 0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:27.839 money up. 0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.239 I was like this, nigga been paying a lot. You 0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.880 get a lot of money, moneigga. But that's what's the 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.680 two part question. One part is do you make music 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.040 sound global on purpose? And then and then the sample thing. 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.600 I'm very curious, well the music, I mean, I don't 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:43.799 I don't know if it's global music. 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:44.960 But I make music for. 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.480 Every hood. All the hoods are light that we come from. 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.200 We all come from the blotty, we all come from 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.680 facing adversity. We all came on hustling trying to make 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.680 a dillar back against the wall. And this is the 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.239 music that I make for all of us. So if 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.879 you in California, you're gonna under standing. You're gonna feel 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.719 what I'm talking about because you've been do the same 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.560 thing where you don't have no food in the fridge 0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.160 and you had to figure out how to eat at night, 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.279 and you might have brothers and sisters that you got 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.120 to fend for and things like that. Like you want 0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.520 to hear all of that in my music. Shore you're 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.440 from Memphis, you're gonna feel that, you know, I mean, 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.000 it don't matter where you're from, You're gonna feel what 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.080 I'm talking about. And if you're from Harlem, You're gonna 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.160 totally understand what I'm talking about because I'm talking about 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.320 all the things that I've been through coming up in 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.200 my in my hood, in my neighborhood. 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:24.200 Cool. 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.080 One thing I want to ask you the sample part, 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:30.600 because you've been Yeah. 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.640 I've had I've had some sample issues in the past. 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.440 Samples is a tricky thing, man, when it comes to 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:53.000 doing music. Sometimes you go through the proper channels to 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.640 get it done. Sometimes you go for it, you know 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.840 what I mean. Especially as an independent artists, we have 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.640 a little bit more leeway than all the signs to 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.040 a major label has because a major label is gonna 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:04.839 stop you dead in your tracks before you even play 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.560 with that was artist is like you know a T shirt, 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.080 go for a seasoned sister ship like that. 0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.359 Hold on one second, I'm going through a little bit. Okay, 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:12.279 not nothing like that, but. 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.399 Hell so another thing that you did. 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:23.000 I remember at one point going independent was like I 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.759 believe your fifty this ta it was like a graveyard. 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.000 It was like, and you went to I believe it 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.000 was one's cotch at the time, it wasn't even I 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.360 believe you went to a cotch. You was the first 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:36.680 person to make independent look sexy like you was like 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:37.080 the first. 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.719 Like I remember like everyone outing you at first, and 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.080 then and then everyone saying I think I'm gonna go 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.120 independent like Jim Jones. Everyone trying to followed your way. 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.080 Poem that went crazy and they can't pay you enough. 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:54.680 Oh well, what was the I thought that that was 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:56.200 the the poem when I did. 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.880 When I did a poem, I wanted, I wanted to 0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:03.000 renegotiate for a few millions, and Allen didn't want to 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:03.279 give me. 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:03.839 What I wanted. 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.840 But yeah, but going independent was like like my, I 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.239 was like, my, that was the only option that was. 0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.520 But I learned about the independence for being in Houston, 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:17.680 I was flipping them a little flip. I had the 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.879 opportunity to actually be in Houston for a couple of years, 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:20.960 had a club. 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:21.400 Out there and all that. 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.120 And while I was out there, I was watching how 0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.600 they was flipping all this independent music and they was 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.080 real independent, like going from the ground with going into 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.799 these Mama pop stares and selling them uh CDs out 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:34.359 the trunks and things like that. And when coming back 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.200 is when it didn't match really started going and Cam 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.600 got the deal. Then Cam got the deal for Jewels, 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:43.200 and then I was like, uh, asked Dame for like 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.640 a million dollars. I felt I was worth it because 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.080 at that time I was doing directly marketing. 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:59.520 I was doing you Got One record Now. I wasn't 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.480 just going off with just me rap. 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.400 I was going on for everything that I was bringing 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.200 to the table that they didn't have no artists that 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.000 could do what I did at that time pretty much 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.200 in the industry, Like I was engineering, recording my own 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.040 music and CAM music. I was directing all of the video, 0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.879 I was doing all the marketing. Def Jam was paying 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.440 me a consultant check like I had for me. I 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.160 had the game in the choke hold because I knew 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.399 I was doing things that no artists was thinking about 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.160 doing at the time, not to say that they couldn't 0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.840 do it, saying it was just like this was not 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:28.920 thought of by artist, Like this was not done. Like, 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:30.839 no way that I'm going to direct my own video. 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.279 Now I need to get next to the directord video. 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.960 I was like, nah shitting me, cam, let me direct 0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:36.359 this video. 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:37.719 You know how you gonna do it. 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.680 I'm like, we're gonna hire one of them other directors 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.480 and we're gonna make him my whole director, and I'm 0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.879 gonna learn from him, and then we're gonna start directing. 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:45.960 All of ut Old Boy. 0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.160 Yeah, my first was my was my first video, and 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.440 that was the first video lesson I learned. I think 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.640 the video was like one hundred sixty thousand dollars. I 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.000 probably made like six thousand dollars. And then I heard 0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.640 the video the director that had helped me with it 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.440 made like sixty thousand dollars. I was my first lesson 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.480 in production how to get. 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:08.600 Like five hundred thousand Homeboy, I got jerked. And that's 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.520 one of the dips that most played records too, right, 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.640 Oh boy, yeah, old Boys one of the biggest difference. 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.400 She just said, playing records like that. 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:15.880 I don't know if you remember. 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.320 We had Old Boy and I had Homeboy, but it 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.520 was called nothing and every night we were just going 0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:22.440 to pay in full tour. 0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:24.840 Yeah, that was one of that was one of my 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.000 greatest memories. And that's what that was. Also when when 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.919 you first kind of like became blood and I don't 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.000 know if you was when you was flagging though, And 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.160 I remember we were going to like Chicago and places. 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:41.319 People was like this niggas ran blood, Like holy moly, 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:48.440 GUACAMOI but I remember I remember Homeboy my record. I 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.480 don't know because we did it twice. We we did 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:53.280 it with the records, and then we did it paid. 0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:53.680 In fall toll. 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.879 You know what I mean. That's what we can't. 0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:57.920 We can't, that's what. 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.239 And then we was on the road with my light 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.160 in the beginning, in the very beginning. Damn, I go back, 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:14.319 I go back. You know what's crazy? Body was there 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.399 for half of them on the other side of the room. 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:24.239 I wish people. I remember one time. I remember one 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.520 time he was on the road and I knew the 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:36.640 promoter had the money. I read and I remember saying, 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.759 you know what you're doing. I was like, I know 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.040 this nigga ran out of money. 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:43.759 You can look at it. 0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:45.759 You can look at the person's face and you know 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:47.840 he ain't got it, like because he wants you to 0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:53.520 feel sorry for him, like if once you want what's 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.480 the what's to look at you like you, oh, you 0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:01.440 know how it is, get then out of here. 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.120 We held niggas. 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:08.560 We need this back and. 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:14.920 We will we go. 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:16.080 Somebody got. 0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:22.120 Like I don't care, we don't about that back and 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.040 king and you come. 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.120 Back with the back there like what his was crazy? 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:31.000 You already count that money, like counting. 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:40.680 This for mister Lee's out there having the second. 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.279 Ship, your. 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.440 Promoting almost even worse though, when they'd be like, I'll 0:41:56.440 --> 0:42:01.480 split it with you at the door, I don't want 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:01.719 to do. 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:02.960 I don't. 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.520 See, I can't do nod he. 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.200 Left seventy five people or your people, and it's like, yo, Papa, 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.120 that's your fault, your friend. 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:18.920 You know. 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.719 Being on that road is the craziest thing when you 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.040 sometimes you just know it's like, oh, man, I hope 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:25.960 they got my make. 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.680 This a little and I need this back and it's 0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.680 gonna be a big problem with this money. Bro. 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.440 Speaking of being on the road, like I remember used 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.400 to do the Day and the Life Ship, you know, 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.400 and just film you know, day to day different shows 0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.400 and all that, like, what made you stop that? 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.640 It's just it was a lot of I was just 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.600 it was a lot going on. I like to start 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.640 going in different ways and ship like that. Some of 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.359 that ship I couldn't film, and ship I was able 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.120 to film it anymore. To begin, it was fun I 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:56.640 was having But do. 0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:02.520 You think you bring that back original love and hip Hop? 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:02.879 Yeah? 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.880 Yeah, I aint it was Jim and hip hop. It 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:11.000 was He started to document your life. I made I 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:16.000 made documented this on film. Yeah, Chris, that's my show. 0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.839 I just at the time, it's just no life. 0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.439 Man. I had opportunity to take control of the show 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.320 and be on the same level that Mona was. 0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.319 But a lot of things were going on with Chris. 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.960 He wasn't willing to compromise our diggingity just to get 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.240 a part of something that was already I was already 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:34.399 you know what I mean. 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.000 And we were able to let that go. They hired 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:41.279 me back this season. I never got it. 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.239 I never got to thank you from nobody from Love 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:43.600 of hip Hop. 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:45.759 I'm gonna thank you. How about that? Because I. 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.080 And then this season you got to give you we 0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.520 gotta have a pay cut. I said, well, I get 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:56.399 a pay not show. 0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.960 How about that? Yeah, but I liked it. I didn't 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.080 enjoyed it, but so what was it? At first? Mona 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.640 just came inside, I want to film you. No, she 0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.080 had nothing to do with it. Mona wasn't even involved 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:13.640 in the beginning. It wasn't my show. Was a dude. 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.080 Jim Acumen, he was following. 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:16.960 He was the head of v H one. 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:19.719 He's been trying to do a show with me for 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.000 a minute, and Christy wanted to. 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.960 Do some reality show. It didn't go through. I was like, 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:24.560 I got this guy. 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.640 I'm going to see if we could do something revolved 0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.600 around our dynamic of a relationship went down there. Talked 0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.360 to Jim Acumen. He like, ship, let's run it. What 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:33.080 we're gonna call it? 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:33.799 Uh? 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.719 Christy and Emily came up with the name Love and 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:39.160 hip Hop. 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:39.880 Went back up. 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.760 We don't call it love and hip Hop crazy. 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.920 Crazy? So it went it went like Yandy. 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.000 Yandy at the time was doing management for me. At 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:56.360 the time, I had Yanny from from Mona and she 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.160 was working directly for me. So at the time I 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:00.839 was at the time, I was I wasn't really doing 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.960 those shows enough for so Yandy opportunity to go on 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.440 the road with Missy Elliott to make some money and 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:09.319 ship like that. I was like ship, she like, Mona 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.440 gonna be in the office, so she gonna help me 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.000 out with your day to day and ship like that, 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:14.680 and you ain't and I'm just going to I'm go 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.040 on the road to make some money. Cool, yeah, get 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:18.920 the back. I wasn't doing that at the time. So 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.479 when I went to a VH one, Uh. 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.239 You got the light, I don't got the Yeah, this 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.720 is his lighter. Yeah already. 0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.520 So when I went to the VH one, meaning Mona 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.480 was was with me at the VH one meeting, so 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:43.320 she in I ain't finished. I didn't finish that. Mona 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:47.759 went in the meeting as management and left out the 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:54.440 producer because she knew what I didn't, and she didn't 0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.080 put me on the game. And that was the most 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.439 thing that I was mad about with Mona, just gonna 0:45:59.440 --> 0:45:59.840 put you on. 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:02.680 My whole idea that. 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:06.600 One down the line everything I need to do at 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:08.080 that time, like you need to get all of this 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:10.320 because this is your show. Instead she taking them on 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.560 herself to slipping there and that problem, and that's what 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.960 that was the reason why he did. 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:18.120 Y'all talked about it since then. 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:23.360 I mean, that's I've been over there. That's that's what that's. 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:36.680 Definitely been. But thank you. Because he's not Spade approved, 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:54.560 he can't he can't drink. You had a question. 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.200 But what I was going to say is that people 0:46:56.239 --> 0:47:00.000 don't realize how much of a great executive music executs 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:05.920 grown from Asylum to E one to a coch to 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.800 Manakey to what you're doing with all these artists to 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.439 bring him back burd Gang. People don't realize how great 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.040 of an music executive you are. 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:14.120 Broke that. 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:22.040 Yeah, thank you for that music. I love music. For 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.160 me to pick music and kind of like see a 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:25.080 start coming I could. 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.560 I'm good. I'm good at that. I do that with 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.040 my osclos and things like that. And I like to 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.160 help people get on that. It's been always my knacking 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.560 life and things like that. I always like to give 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:36.160 and ship like that more than I like to take. 0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:37.520 And I got to take a lot in life. So 0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:39.920 this means giving back and trying to keep put other 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.719 people on and so they could get on my level 0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:43.040 on a higher level and ship like that. 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.160 I've always been about that and the way I get 0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:46.120 to do it is doudent music. 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.800 And y'all seen from when we started with Wells to 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:54.160 the max Is to so many other artists and like that, 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:55.920 from the hell Reils to. 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:09.239 Forty cal that please move forward. 0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.680 Is a real big reason. 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.960 For me to really get back into my executive bag 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.239 the way I have been in the last few years. 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.399 And things like that, Like he's real adamant about coming 0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.240 to me and doing this burg Gag album and bringing 0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:25.920 back burg Game back out and things like that. And 0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.719 then I have a bunch of group of talented individuals 0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.480 that I believe in wholeheartedly and I can't and we're 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.120 starting to put the music out and I can't wait 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.000 for people to really start to get a little of 0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.080 all these orders that I have working under VL and 0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:41.160 things like that. Doing this, like I said, you wanted 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.600 the hardest working man, yo. 0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:48.160 I see it's like the pandemic. You let me put 0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:52.120 me in like three hundred features. Like now now I 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:53.799 want to say this to you, right. You see how 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.759 the beginning when he said Meek didn't want to do 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.120 the verse because he was on hold. He was like, 0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:59.520 you know, I want to be on whole status. So 0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:02.160 he was trying to whole his value. I guess, you know, 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.799 to a certain standing. But you, on the other hand, 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:05.680 you went. 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.320 To the streets. You went back to the streets, but 0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:10.640 we wasn't allowed to come outside. You went out and 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.799 took every feature from every nigga. He must have called 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:19.440 COVID nineteen times. It took the back you went outside 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.239 every time that was with me cod. 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:25.800 I called COVID acting versus after the verses. 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:36.960 That was the only everything that night that. 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:39.839 I couldn't win enough. 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.800 But but you went hard in the in the pandemic, 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:49.280 and I feel like, you know, put you back. 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:50.160 To where you needed to be. 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.840 Now, I ain't gonna lie about me by doing that. 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:57.000 Definitely put me visibly all over because I did so 0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.680 many features, like you said, didn't like three hundred features 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:00.880 in and it. 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:02.719 Was lucrative, and you was doing the videos too. 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:04.560 It was bad. 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:10.000 I figured out the loop, of course, See that was it. 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:12.520 I figured out how the quarantine studio shouts. The quarantine 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:16.520 studio works with me over there shouts to drop TV. Uh, 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:20.319 we got things studio, got some things coming back? 0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:21.000 Are you doing that? 0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:21.160 That? 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:24.880 Both hold hold on talking them that hold on just 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:27.759 talking about the lucrative videos, so we. 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.120 Didn't figure out the quarantine studio and what quantity studios. 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.200 I figured out how to record virtually in real time, 0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.400 like at leasting my latencies that you can. So I 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.960 was able to do music in my house with the 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:40.000 artists and were all in the session virtually and it out. 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:41.920 And I don't have no didn't have to have an 0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.120 engineer in my house. My engineer was at his house. 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.560 So I figured that out and I was able to features. 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.680 I created Quarantine music the side where all the artists where. 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.279 Now you could pay me to do your features and 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.880 things like that, and me and Poe this man the 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:56.960 d M, and Poe was calling everybody to call the 0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.560 d M, and we were taking features from four thousand 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.240 and five thousand and six thousand and seven thousand, thirty 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:03.719 five hundred because it didn't matter. 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:04.680 Nobody was moving. 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.160 It was a separated and the video is a separate 0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:10.520 but so it was. It was nobody moving at the time. 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.359 Nobody can go to studio, nobody's making money. So I'm 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.080 in my house, in my basement making thirty five thousand 0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:19.520 before the Night is out, four features. I wasn't kidd 0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:21.480 I was adding that ship up so before. 0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:28.360 The week allegedly just case irs listening elegendly allegedly allegedly 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:31.760 a lot of it is all promo. 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:35.480 It was as it was a Lucas side, just be 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:38.280 able to tap into that market without having to go outside, 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.560 and that in turn turned into me being all over YouTube. 0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.080 All of these kids learning this music and the videos. 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:47.200 And Jones out and that helped brand puffing with all 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.480 the younger generations. 0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:49.040 Things like that. 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:53.520 Like so let me ask you because because a lot 0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.520 of people don't know, like Wa Kwan taught me that 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:57.799 that you know, a feature is one price, the video 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:01.600 is another price. Right when I was out, I didn't 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:06.120 have Instagram. So so when you do a feature and 0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:08.720 a video for a person, do you charge him separate 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:13.560 for a post or you look out, okay. 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:14.880 If you if you, if you pay me for the 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.120 video in the verse, I'm gonna post it, You're gonna 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:18.279 post it, ain't. 0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:20.279 I ain't that type of nigga. I ain't gonna try 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:26.320 to take I mean like, yeah, that's where people know that. 0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.400 So so now all of the package though that we 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.160 were when we were doing the features, that was. 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:30.840 Part of the package. 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.640 We're gonna we're gonna post it up and ship like that. 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.640 How much is the verse now, Jim yesterday? 0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:38.480 How much. 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:40.440 Listen to me? 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:43.279 Listen, listen to me, like I got a ticket right 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:44.600 let's just say I got a ticket. 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.000 We ain't gonna say now ship like that. 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:47.800 But if a nigga called me right now and my 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:51.880 man want to feature it, yo, he want to feature 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:53.200 right now? 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.640 How much money you got right now, right now? 0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.160 You know he got eighty two hundred run it running. 0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:01.839 Right there? 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:06.320 You got you got that right now, right there, right there. 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:13.719 Right there, you heard, and that's and that's still like 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.160 more PC than you would ever get off for any brick. 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:19.040 You was so outside of ship, like you know what 0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:19.600 you gotta do? 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:22.080 You know where I killed the mat? And this was 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:31.640 years ago Europe because day paying top dollar to dollar man. 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:33.880 And it depends because and hold on, let me say, 0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:43.120 don't think y'all could call me like like y'all, it's 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:44.640 not gonna work like that, buddy. 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.200 To get something to get that cool just can't have it. 0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:53.640 But it's just a hustle of mentality. 0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:54.719 That having me and ship like that, you think, like 0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:56.839 I'm not trying to let dollar slide down. I feel 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:58.680 like Ross is like that I need I need to 0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:01.920 get that money, Like why not hear I did this 0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:03.800 music so I can't make this money. Nuts for me 0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:05.560 to term my face my nose up and not take 0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:09.520 the money, it's crazy. Associated with Jim Jones, give it 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.279 to that you did like you want to ling to this, 0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:15.680 Come on, I need you. Now you have another person 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:17.719 who's going to shoot lobby for you. 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:21.480 And all you do music and things like that. 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:24.160 You just invited them into your circle, whether they paid 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:26.560 for a feature or not, and now they part of 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:28.080 you did your networking. 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.480 You know what I've seen for what it did for you, 0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.840 in my opinion, was it made you more grounded. It 0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:35.840 made everyone feel like you know what I'm saying, Like 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:37.720 I could get at Jim Jones. And it made people 0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:41.800 because these artists that you were working with like they appreciated. 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:46.040 You know what I'm saying. They appreciated. Yeah, it made you. 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:48.160 See when it made you seem humble, but it made 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.480 you seem connected, you know what I'm saying, Because I 0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:52.440 felt like every artist that you did it with was 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.279 appreciated and it was just like I felt like those 0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:58.439 dudes would killed somebody for you make I mean. 0:54:58.560 --> 0:54:59.000 I hope not. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:06.000 I'd rather your lobby, but like like I've been in 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.600 the position of each one of those artists, and I 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:11.920 know how I feel to be on that side of 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:14.440 the fence when you can't get a feature. I remember 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:17.440 me rapping for your Gotti, I mean you Gotti in. 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.960 His office when uh murdered. Inku was in death Jam 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:22.400 and all in death Jam. 0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:25.240 Trying to get a deal and ship right, and everybody 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:27.279 looking at me like I'm crazy, like when you're looking 0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:28.960 for the opportunity and ship like that. And this is 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:30.440 even when I was with camming them, so it was 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:32.440 like I was already in position to do certain things. 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:34.640 But as an artist, you're looking for certain opportunities and 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:36.440 certain help. And you know, if I get a feature 0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:38.000 with this dude, that'd be one level up that I 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.640 could get. And nobody wasn't handling that to me at all. 0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:44.280 I remember all my features was canned. As you wells 0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:46.719 thinking about that you heard like that was enough, it was, 0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:49.759 but as being a part of the game and you 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:53.279 you want to the artist, Maya and like you did, 0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.279 I think that Nigga, like, oh I need you dig 0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:58.000 like you so imagine the artists coming up and trying 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:00.840 to just get so thinking about all that ship and 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:01.600 he got some money. 0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.400 Ship, come on, come on with I remember I called. 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:06.160 You one time for a feature for my man this 0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:08.640 ship or whatever. He was like, yo, he was like listen, y'all, 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.759 if you I would have did it for that. Give 0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:21.239 me three more. Brought that at three to that what 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:24.560 you said, he ain't just taking anything. 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:28.400 Let me let me let me say something about you, 0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:33.200 because like I've seen you come up like obviously I didn't. 0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:34.840 We didn't grow up together, but we grew up in 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:35.920 hip hop talking about it. 0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:39.040 The father babes. He's been to my project. 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.640 He didn't come to my project base that me and 0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:44.400 Kim getting used to living. 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:46.160 With my grandma past. He was, he's from. 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:50.920 Let me because let me just give you a flowers 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:56.160 like I've seen you grow into executive, a hustler like 0:56:56.320 --> 0:57:00.440 you was at like I maya people like I, My 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.720 people like Tony yo, yo, I my people like Memphis 0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:06.200 bleak Imma, people who stayed down. But but to see 0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.920 to see where you come from, like I said at 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:13.120 one at one point, you know, I was filming a 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:14.279 documentary we called what what. 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:16.480 I did not know what I was doing. 0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:21.560 This actually the pre pre cruel to just to drink champs. 0:57:21.960 --> 0:57:24.920 So I I only called the people that I could 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:27.240 call for that day. And it's funny as fuck. The 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:32.160 three people that I could call was Cam, Memph, Bleak 0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:36.760 and fifty Cent. So the crazy shit was my dumb 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:39.480 ass forgot that these niggas. 0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:39.920 Ain't getting along. 0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:42.360 I said, holy shit. 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:44.320 So I had to have Bleak on one. 0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:48.760 Side, interview Caim, make sure Cam is do the building, 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.360 and had fifty sent downstairs. I swear to God and 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.160 I got it all on tape. But this is something 0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.800 that you said. He was like, Yo, man, these niggas 0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.840 be spending. He said, man, I spent five I spent 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:03.360 I get five downs for I get five Nichols for 0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.000 twenty bucks. And I was like, and you had on 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:09.800 when you had army fatigue fants And I looked and 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:11.760 I was like, this, this is the grimmiest nigga from 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:12.160 dip sep. 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:15.439 He's the one. He's the one. 0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.520 And by the way, that was flyg because that's what 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:21.560 we were smoking at the time of the twenties and fifties. 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:23.600 Like niggas wasn't a hundred dollars bag niggas. 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:24.720 Niggas wasn't also niggas. 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.320 We all nigative, but we all had a beginning done 0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:29.560 this type of it wasn't it was. 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.160 It was brown bags. 0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:35.800 And I say that to say, there's so many people 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.439 that don't stay down. There's so many people that jump 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:42.520 ship when they see that the Titanic is coming, they jump. 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.040 Ship and they'll go do it with some ship. You 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:51.120 stayed down. You stayed the niggas playing. We was yes 0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:02.120 a ship that music to that ship. One damn man, 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:03.200 you listen to me. 0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:07.600 You for every dipset battle, everything, everything that had to 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:09.400 do with your crew, you was front line. 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.120 And I'm just telling you you deserve. You deserve. 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:15.200 You deserve to get me your competit cures and manicures 0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.440 in Miami Beach and retire. 0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.560 I'm glad, man, I'm glad that's here with me too. 0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:23.440 I'm glad you know, I know has been with me 0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:27.200 since I'm met Zeke when I was like nine years old. 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:30.600 Wow, you digg and then we ended. 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.280 I go to my first day he first Yeah, I 0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.640 met Zeke when I was nine. Nigga fought brings summer 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:43.840 shame stilling, bitches, tokens and ship and then after that, 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.640 I ain't see Zeg and then I get to high school. 0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.480 My first day of high school, I get to my locker. 0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.080 My shit is Jones and his ship is Jiles, and 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:53.600 I'm opening the locker and this niggas did make get 0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:59.280 the fuck up. So since since ninth grade, Zeke's been 0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:01.919 with each other since the age of fourteen and shit 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:04.240 like that, and we've been through every single thing that 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:07.720 you could imagine. So when Cam and them start coming 1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:12.000 to my house and doing music, he lived on the 1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:14.439 East Side. But now we like seventeen eighteen, niggas has grown, 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:16.160 Ziggs doing his own things, ship like that, and we're 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:17.520 trying to figure out how to get ready to do 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:18.400 this move. 1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:20.800 And I know to do this move, you got. 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.360 To have some niggas that's ready to go as far 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:25.960 as you can take it. And I'm like, one of 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:28.720 the first niggas I told Cam was like, yo, we 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:29.880 got to take zek with us. 1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:37.240 Wow, trust him. You heard like Sean Fast, Sean passed away. 1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:38.200 We passed away. 1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:41.320 Sean was one of the earlier ones. 1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:45.960 We grabbed a group of kids that we knew that 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:48.640 had heart and we was ready to go against the world, 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:52.480 and as we got in the game, we learned the game. 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:55.920 So when I tell people that Rappers the most dangerous 1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:58.800 game in the world, they be like the most dangerous 1:00:58.840 --> 1:01:00.080 job in the world. They be looking at me like 1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.840 I'm crazy, But I really mean now that that's we're 1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:05.680 the biggest target in the world. 1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:09.160 I think a lot of people missed, understand you, comparing 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:12.680 it to like venates in that even army members, you 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:13.600 know who the enemy is. 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:16.080 You know who your enemy is. You don't know who 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:17.200 know who. 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:19.360 You know what you're expecting at home, right, whatever you 1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:21.120 feel not taking nothing away from. 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:24.880 Taking that's in the army, military wavy. I know that 1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:25.800 ship is dangerous. 1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:28.600 I'm not in the army, but we are outside and 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:30.840 we're dealing with people that we don't know who nobody is, 1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:34.080 but everybody do know who he is. Rappitsmen dying at 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:37.439 an alarming rate in the past ten years. 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:42.280 Right, there was a time when there. 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:45.680 Was only Scotland Rock that had got killed. Right in 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:47.360 my life, yeah, we didn't. 1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:50.000 We didn't hear about no rappers getting killed. 1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:50.640 Trying to think. 1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:53.919 Like Scotland Rock got killed. Now with the last rapper 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:54.720 you heard getting killed for. 1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:59.720 Locking big and tooling big. And then and then it 1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.920 didn't stopped after that. It stopped after that, and then 1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:03.360 it just. 1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:06.320 Got because you know what it is a lot of 1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:10.560 people want to because see, at one point, rappers was corny. 1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:18.479 The drug dealers was the niggas were drug. Rappers became 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:21.120 the drug dealers. Rappers became the new drug Like, we're 1:02:21.160 --> 1:02:24.240 the new drug dealers. So when we started, when they 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:28.120 started to learn that, oh ship, it's not corny having money, 1:02:29.040 --> 1:02:31.960 it's not corny switching every rose voice, every time the 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:35.200 rose voice cames up, Oh it's not corny not getting 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:35.840 going to jail. 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:38.680 It's not corny taking care of your family. Didn't. 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:42.080 Didn't the motherfuckers they want to take our life. Really, 1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:43.880 what they wanted to do was just take our success 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:46.240 and say give me your success and give. 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:47.000 Me everything you worked for. 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:52.000 And when they realized, holy ship, then they tried. What 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:53.960 they try to do is they try to put on rappers. 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:59.840 So they'll go to the hood to say, yo, let 1:02:59.880 --> 1:03:00.680 me put on buddy. 1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:02.480 But he don't. 1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:04.040 He ain't got no love for it. He just getting 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:06.920 this to get the bread, to get the bread. So 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:09.880 they put on the worst little nigga. He fly, He 1:03:10.000 --> 1:03:12.800 got on a Mary Jeans, but he. 1:03:12.920 --> 1:03:16.160 Sucks, so now he doesn't make it. Now they hate 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:17.000 that's even more. 1:03:18.040 --> 1:03:20.560 Do you understand what I'm saying my describing scenario now, 1:03:20.840 --> 1:03:22.040 So when you said that, I don't know if you 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:24.160 know when you said that, soon as you said rappers 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:28.080 the most dangerous job, and I see people you're giving 1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:31.600 you a backlash. I got on this show and I said, 1:03:31.720 --> 1:03:33.360 Jim Jones is absolutely correct. 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:36.880 You got nothing put It's not I'm just saying, you 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:39.360 even got to watch the closest people that's next to 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:42.680 you when you're in this position, more successful. 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:43.200 Anything, You know what I mean? 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:45.880 And this is this is how I learned how to 1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:49.240 eliminate a lot of people that I've lost a lot 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:50.440 of friends and eliminated a lot. 1:03:50.400 --> 1:03:52.160 Of people that were close to me do to certain 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:54.360 things of things like that. 1:03:54.440 --> 1:03:56.640 And now if you don't have a purpose to be 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.520 around me, and I don't see a way that you 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:01.880 can get from being around me, that I'm not going 1:04:01.960 --> 1:04:03.160 to have you around me. 1:04:03.240 --> 1:04:04.439 And that has nothing to do with my friends. 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:05.680 I got a lot of friends want to come to 1:04:05.760 --> 1:04:06.680 this business and ship like that. 1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:09.680 It's not like it used to be. Thirty didn't turn 1:04:09.760 --> 1:04:14.320 the two, you know what I mean, Like shit changes. 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:16.000 You learn a lot as you're moving and ship like that, 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.600 and you know, everybody can't go and I ain't got 1:04:18.640 --> 1:04:20.960 the pot for everybody to live like I'm living and 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:23.000 sh like that you did. And a lot of people 1:04:23.040 --> 1:04:24.880 don't know what opportunity is. They don't know how to 1:04:24.920 --> 1:04:26.960 get money. And that's that's one of the things that 1:04:27.400 --> 1:04:30.040 rappers go through a lot, is that we put in 1:04:30.080 --> 1:04:31.520 a position to help a lot of people. 1:04:31.880 --> 1:04:33.320 A lot of people don't know how to take that 1:04:33.400 --> 1:04:33.960 help and use it. 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:37.240 For themselves, except that's we've made some lays for that. 1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:42.680 That's one thing he always told us, like Smoke Champs, 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:44.640 you know, before he's even smoke Champs just you know, 1:04:44.720 --> 1:04:47.800 I'm as nephew thess niggas And he just told like, yo, listen, man, 1:04:47.880 --> 1:04:51.320 any opportunity, any chance you get to use me, use me. 1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:54.760 So ill to be used, he said, I don't abuse me, 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:58.080 but use me, use me anytime you can make something happen. 1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:00.800 Hundred percent, I tell him. Artist, we have we have 1:05:00.920 --> 1:05:04.320 what we call tail meetings, like every three weeks a 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:07.640 month inside the studio and ship like that, and the 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:10.840 flaws is flaws for everybody to talk about what they 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:12.720 don't like, what they do, like, well, we're not doing 1:05:12.760 --> 1:05:13.520 what we should be doing. 1:05:13.600 --> 1:05:16.080 However it comes and ship like that and you digging. 1:05:16.120 --> 1:05:18.960 And one thing that I tell them is listen, we 1:05:19.120 --> 1:05:21.800 in a position to do a lot, and I can't 1:05:21.840 --> 1:05:25.000 do everything, but opportunity is in front of you. You 1:05:25.080 --> 1:05:26.880 got to learn how to use me to your benefit. 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:29.080 Not no fun up way, but use me where it's 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:30.680 gonna benefit you and benefit us. 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:34.439 That's what I'm here for, to be used in that manner. 1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:35.040 Ship like that. 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:37.520 So you're absolutely right. Some people get in a lot 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:38.080 of people don't. 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:40.720 Somebody don't get it. A lot of people, a lot 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:41.800 of people don't understand. 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:45.240 Even with like you know, us having a nigga like 1:05:45.280 --> 1:05:47.040 you know already in the game, where your crew having 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:50.200 you all already in the game, it doesn't always work either. 1:05:50.760 --> 1:05:54.840 You can't get mad at the top rolling the dice. 1:05:56.360 --> 1:05:57.880 It's like the entertainment period. 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:01.320 You might roll a two or two winning the game 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:01.959 on for deuce. 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:05.440 You gonna roller as it might not. This might not 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:07.520 be the thing for you, This might not It might 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:09.160 not work for you. You might give it you. Oh, 1:06:09.240 --> 1:06:11.880 you might have the most dopest marketing strategy. You might 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:14.200 have a bag on your big joey, and it still might. 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:18.520 Not work for you. He did, like I knew this dude, 1:06:19.440 --> 1:06:22.960 my man, my man, his name is to and started 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:27.520 a record label. Right, this, this is how fucked up times. Yeah, 1:06:27.840 --> 1:06:30.160 I started the record label. I said, so, so, what're 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:32.480 you gonna do? He said, I got the houses, I 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:36.880 got the cars, and I got the jewelry. The nigga 1:06:36.960 --> 1:06:37.680 had no artists. 1:06:40.760 --> 1:06:44.520 That this is how it's to be making. Look for people. 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:48.360 They look at us living, they think, oh, I got 1:06:48.560 --> 1:06:50.560 you did, But they don't understand in the hallwork that 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:54.760 we got to put in night out, like the long day, 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:57.280 the longer nights. You heard, the flights we gotta take, 1:06:57.320 --> 1:06:59.640 the mornings. We got to get up the drink champs. 1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:02.720 You gotta a lot of people don't understand the whole 1:07:02.720 --> 1:07:06.560 whole report album. I did on the train. I never 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:09.560 even took a taxi. I couldn't afford it. 1:07:09.680 --> 1:07:12.400 When I they told me you gotta stop hustling, I 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:15.200 literally stopped hustling. L A l A came out and 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:16.440 I was like fuck it. 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:18.760 I had to get to Unique Studios and d n 1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:21.640 D studios and most of the time I got on 1:07:21.720 --> 1:07:22.800 the motherfucking our train. 1:07:22.880 --> 1:07:26.480 Bro World up, World Up, sacrifice No more. 1:07:26.520 --> 1:07:29.680 They skip, They skipping all that right now straight. 1:07:34.800 --> 1:07:38.640 Like I Spiceman from when the record Straight to the Moon, 1:07:39.480 --> 1:07:52.400 I was supposed to go shout out to the females. 1:07:52.840 --> 1:07:55.360 Females want I want to ask you A lot of 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:56.600 females is kicking ass. 1:07:56.520 --> 1:07:58.760 Right, yeah, I want to ask you this, Like, so 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:00.840 you see how the game is, it's now farst like 1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:03.360 we just said, like a young nigga get a hit 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:06.080 and they HiT's going to the moon because of all 1:08:06.120 --> 1:08:06.880 the out last. 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:10.480 Time there is now Like what part of the game 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:13.720 do you like the new game or the old game? 1:08:14.400 --> 1:08:15.560 Shit, I like the new game. 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:16.080 I'm part. 1:08:16.080 --> 1:08:18.000 I'm part of what's going on. I needed. I need 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:19.400 to be a part of the present. 1:08:19.479 --> 1:08:21.200 You heard the past was the past, and it was 1:08:21.280 --> 1:08:23.599 good when when it was there, but we're not there anymore. 1:08:24.200 --> 1:08:25.960 That's where a lot of older artists get caught up 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:26.600 in this ship like that. 1:08:26.680 --> 1:08:28.720 Theyre caught up in their waist or I'm still going 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:30.720 to put an album out. I want every two years 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:33.639 and like Nigga, Nigga Drake is putting out three four 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:35.719 albums a year. Nigga, you should be on your toes 1:08:35.800 --> 1:08:38.120 right now. It just show you the times are changing 1:08:38.160 --> 1:08:40.760 and you need to start bombing. Like So, that's one 1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:43.880 thing I always try to do, even from throughout my duration, 1:08:44.000 --> 1:08:45.560 is make sure I kept what was going on and 1:08:45.600 --> 1:08:47.559 be able to reinvent myself and stay in and stay 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:48.519 relevant and ship like that. 1:08:48.600 --> 1:08:49.000 You know what I mean. 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:50.800 Like, if you don't do that, you don't get lost 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:52.960 in the sauce fast, and you're gonna start looking crazy. 1:08:53.560 --> 1:08:58.040 So what's your what's your favorite what's your favorite time 1:08:58.280 --> 1:08:58.880 and hip hop? 1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:01.920 My favorite time in hip hop? My favorite time of 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:04.680 life was the nineties, of course, always that was my 1:09:04.920 --> 1:09:07.880 favorite time in life. Ninety eight my favorite was just 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:11.880 the soundtrack to that and then well you got ninety seven, 1:09:12.120 --> 1:09:14.320 ninety eight, ninety seven, you got nothing. 1:09:15.120 --> 1:09:19.280 Your kid was being Cam was on me, Cam DMXIC, 1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:23.280 Big Pun, No no masons before. 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:29.000 That, Me, Cam, Me Cam Punks, I believe seven Corp. 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:34.200 We were on fire, don't fight fire. 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:44.320 Big money, big money, and we all loft the super Shaka. Yeah, 1:09:44.439 --> 1:09:46.240 I never gave super Shaka. 1:09:46.000 --> 1:09:46.240 Man. 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:53.240 War, you know you ain't deserved. 1:09:56.479 --> 1:09:58.960 Con't turn shout out, Shaka. 1:10:00.520 --> 1:10:03.680 I really do mean it, but I don't mean. 1:10:03.680 --> 1:10:04.280 It to him. 1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:07.320 So so for the for the younger generation right now, 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:09.800 because they like, they hardly know who all. 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:12.880 They might see us because we're still on TV. 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:14.560 Anythink I'm a podcaster. 1:10:14.360 --> 1:10:18.720 But they don't understand how much, how how how hot 1:10:19.280 --> 1:10:21.840 like when we bro, No, he was on. 1:10:23.320 --> 1:10:25.519 When you when You had to Buy, can't even. 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:28.080 Name the type of fire he was on Bro. They 1:10:28.200 --> 1:10:35.800 was calling him the new tupacket. I remember one of 1:10:35.880 --> 1:10:40.040 them having our conversations about Nori and how he was getting. 1:10:39.920 --> 1:10:40.639 What he was doing. 1:10:40.720 --> 1:10:44.599 And I ain't gonna lot. I gave on his flowers. 1:10:44.960 --> 1:10:46.880 I'm gonna be honest with you because me and Cam 1:10:47.080 --> 1:10:49.360 was friends. So what happened was I knew he could 1:10:49.400 --> 1:10:52.720 kind of like bully penalty, so I was trying to 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:54.160 like steal me, but I'm gonna be honest. 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:55.599 He taught me a lot. And I don't know if 1:10:55.600 --> 1:10:58.720 you remember the first timm of jam we did together. 1:10:59.240 --> 1:11:02.040 And came out and it almost killed yourself. 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:13.000 I ain't know what pirol was back then. The friends, 1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:17.240 these niggas just fancy. I'm like, wait a minute, They're like, yo, boom, 1:11:17.640 --> 1:11:22.919 we fu that all up too much and tale I'm 1:11:23.000 --> 1:11:24.720 this is my first summer jam. 1:11:25.080 --> 1:11:28.680 So they was they're gonna hide unbullied, They're gonna have 1:11:28.840 --> 1:11:30.880 me go by myself. But they was like, funk that 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:33.120 have him come out with Cam because we had the 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:35.840 records together on fire so they're like, all right, cool. 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:39.000 So we did rehearse, but in the rehearsal they don't 1:11:39.040 --> 1:11:44.479 say nothing about no Pyro. Explain to the people was 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:50.840 Pyro was a ship boom like the Mason Show. 1:11:51.760 --> 1:11:54.680 They bust in the only so they're like, yo, it 1:11:54.760 --> 1:11:57.160 goes TikTok and then boom and then you come out. 1:11:57.479 --> 1:12:00.479 So I'm like, you tell me this five minutes before 1:12:00.520 --> 1:12:02.960 I go on. So that's just said tik tik boom. 1:12:03.000 --> 1:12:04.920 The first one came out. Cam came out, that's just 1:12:04.920 --> 1:12:07.840 said tiktik boom. Charlie Baltimore came out. That's just said 1:12:07.880 --> 1:12:10.479 tick And I said, I was like, wait out the ticket. 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:18.559 I said there, and I'm like, do I go out? 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:21.040 I got chill and I went just like this and 1:12:21.080 --> 1:12:24.920 this is said bo. I was like, oh shit, my. 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:28.200 My life flashed before my eyes. You understand, because that 1:12:28.240 --> 1:12:30.120 shit blew up and I didn't know it. And then 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:32.640 I walked around it like I didn't even walk through it. 1:12:32.960 --> 1:12:35.240 I walked through and I performed like nothing happened the 1:12:35.280 --> 1:12:42.679 whole time. I can't hear ship. This is thirty thousand people. 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:46.519 That's why I would never listen dip set y'all you. 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:50.840 Cam Joel's freakysy Oh, y'all y'all. 1:12:51.360 --> 1:12:53.920 Yeah, I love y'all for life. My brother I really too. 1:12:55.640 --> 1:13:00.800 I really like that. Yeah. Really him up together, like 1:13:01.400 --> 1:13:04.479 like Uncle Wi is like really, that's right, that's right. 1:13:04.600 --> 1:13:06.559 We really came up, man, and it was a good time. 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:07.160 It's a beauty. 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:08.720 That's why I'm so proud of. Let me ask you 1:13:08.840 --> 1:13:11.320 before we get the quick time of Slim. Do you 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:14.200 have the last Migos recorded record together? 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:17.200 Yeah, the last all p Takeoff. 1:13:17.800 --> 1:13:19.840 Yeah, it's just so baby boy. 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:22.760 He was just a dope person, man, Like I had 1:13:22.800 --> 1:13:25.160 a great relationship with him. He would coming New York 1:13:25.240 --> 1:13:27.439 hit me you had on pull up, So you had. 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:29.160 A relationship with take Off and here he hooked up the. 1:13:29.240 --> 1:13:33.439 Migos record, You do all of them. But I had 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:37.439 a real strong me too, like I really take over 1:13:38.040 --> 1:13:40.000 see him all the time. He hit, he caught me, 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:42.000 We're going to dinner all of this. So take Off 1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:45.160 was like my god like and he was a real 1:13:45.800 --> 1:13:48.479 fan of dips and I say, nobody else, but he 1:13:48.840 --> 1:13:51.960 would show it like, nah, we know all your we 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:55.640 know everything you can talking about all the just it 1:13:55.760 --> 1:13:57.560 was just and it would just it would make me 1:13:58.760 --> 1:14:03.000 feel good to know that someone like take Off is 1:14:03.880 --> 1:14:04.920 giving me my flowers. 1:14:04.960 --> 1:14:07.800 And he's argument one of the biggest groups. 1:14:08.360 --> 1:14:10.600 And it's like you think not saying that it was, 1:14:10.680 --> 1:14:11.400 but it was like it. 1:14:11.479 --> 1:14:14.559 Was a good nigga man, Like that's a good nigga. 1:14:15.120 --> 1:14:16.479 He came to the studio and that like where you're 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:17.960 at on like at the studio, like I'm pulling up. 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:19.519 We're in the studio, like now we got to get 1:14:19.520 --> 1:14:22.439 one produce stuff playing like this it. 1:14:23.240 --> 1:14:28.800 This transit by the way, that record, by the way, 1:14:29.960 --> 1:14:30.760 it's hard. 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:33.720 This hook and he did his verse and then I 1:14:33.840 --> 1:14:36.000 just did a verse and then I was like, nah, 1:14:36.040 --> 1:14:37.600 I got to come back and fix my ship to 1:14:37.600 --> 1:14:37.960 them all. 1:14:38.040 --> 1:14:39.559 Like I was like, he makes you go back. 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.560 The whole ship is different, like it's not like a 1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:46.360 new York type like I started kind of wow, I 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:47.120 got to tie you up. 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:48.600 They came back the next day and did it. 1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:53.600 Then we put it on the gram off seting hit 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:57.080 me wow, like no, I don't know what you're trying, 1:14:57.160 --> 1:14:57.760 but I need on. 1:14:57.920 --> 1:15:05.840 That the day so he's like, yo, pull up, I'm down, 1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:07.880 I'm i'm i'm, I'm in the studio. We go to 1:15:07.880 --> 1:15:09.640 the studio there and bugging down and ship like that. 1:15:10.320 --> 1:15:11.960 He ended up doing the record and ship like that. 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:15.439 Then then they will hit me like, man, you got 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:24.559 the tour, get show. So Quevo Paul was more Illo 1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:28.040 because Cevo did his verse and the video all in 1:15:28.120 --> 1:15:30.720 the same studio, all at the same time. So when 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:32.400 I went to the studio, he did the verse, and 1:15:32.520 --> 1:15:36.479 right after verse, we shot the video right there Quada. 1:15:37.520 --> 1:15:38.080 Opened the door. 1:15:38.160 --> 1:15:40.360 They had the staircase with all the graffiti and all 1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:41.799 that right here everything. 1:15:41.880 --> 1:15:44.360 So his verse and video done all in like two hours, 1:15:44.360 --> 1:15:45.640 and then he had to get on the plane so 1:15:46.280 --> 1:15:52.640 I could did the video you that like that was 1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:54.600 and they did it separately and ship like that, but 1:15:54.640 --> 1:15:56.479 they all made sure they did they part like and 1:15:57.560 --> 1:16:00.280 takeoffs like now I'm coming to the block don't care 1:16:00.280 --> 1:16:02.280 what's going on. I'm coming to the block. I don't 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:04.240 care what's going on. He pulled up to the block 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:05.880 and he enjoyed hisself up that he. 1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:06.360 Had a ball. 1:16:06.520 --> 1:16:08.240 So that was one of the things he wanted to do. 1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:09.519 Like now, I got to come to all of them 1:16:09.560 --> 1:16:12.200 and check it out. And so the whole process and 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:13.920 ship like that was yoga then And. 1:16:13.920 --> 1:16:16.160 Where was that record? Drop label? 1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:19.600 Empire, Empire Life Records, Slash. 1:16:19.360 --> 1:16:23.280 Empire Gazi and we'll see that one right shot of Gazi, 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:26.240 you know, whole Empire family. You will see shot the 1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:29.080 video chapel will see shot. 1:16:29.280 --> 1:16:34.080 Ghazi, Nemo. Tina Davies just became David hit All. Yeah 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:39.160 right now shot shots. Oh my god, definitely. I've seen 1:16:39.240 --> 1:16:41.439 him come over there and help Empire do a lot. 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:44.360 Of different great gets went over kicked as she went 1:16:44.400 --> 1:16:45.639 over there and turns yeah. 1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:48.840 Yeah, Ghazi Gauzi already had something great going on, like 1:16:48.920 --> 1:16:51.479 that shout of the guys. He helped change my life 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:54.280 and helped he last in the game and things like that. 1:16:54.360 --> 1:16:56.439 I cannot I confront on Ghazi in no way, shape 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:58.800 or for me like that. And the last ten years 1:16:58.840 --> 1:17:02.840 of my life as has been great thanks to Gazi. 1:17:02.560 --> 1:17:05.479 And would you put Ghazi over Alplin one hundred percent? 1:17:05.880 --> 1:17:07.160 Get me too, one hundred percent. 1:17:09.400 --> 1:17:11.680 I don't regret what I've been through that I may 1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:14.160 ball into some of my biggest it's with Allen and that, 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:17.559 but his business Acremen is nowhere near to what Ghazi 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:19.000 and how the way they move. 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:19.479 With the Empire. 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:22.320 That was the first place that I got to check 1:17:22.400 --> 1:17:24.439 for my music was from Empire. 1:17:24.760 --> 1:17:26.439 You know what I mean when they tell you're. 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:28.840 Gonna get paid, you're gonna get you get paid, get paid. 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:30.640 What they tell you're gonna get paid with percent is 1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:33.160 you negotiate with them. That's what it wasn't you know? 1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:36.400 I was pretty much the first major artist that Ghazi signed. 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:40.640 And I can remember when y'all call me, yo, how 1:17:40.680 --> 1:17:42.800 Gazi is the same thing I tolde? Same thing I 1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:44.479 told that Joe is that they can pay on time, 1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:46.200 said be paying. 1:17:48.320 --> 1:17:48.880 I spoke to. 1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:58.960 The moment I say I put, I said, they asked 1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:02.800 me how, Yeah it is over there Empire and that 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:05.840 sold on the same thing. They pay on time. I 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:08.360 never got a check from no other music but they 1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:10.760 that was I didn't saying put anybody, Yeah, yeah, okay, 1:18:11.600 --> 1:18:15.120 pay on time. That's been my whole thing when dealing 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:17.040 with artists. And they asked me about ghazis like, bro, 1:18:17.240 --> 1:18:19.680 the business up there is and. 1:18:19.680 --> 1:18:22.040 He's a great guy. Strike up is what you're gonna 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:24.200 give you. He's a great guy. You managed yourself for 1:18:24.240 --> 1:18:26.800 what you didn't negotiate you that's just that, you know, 1:18:27.520 --> 1:18:35.840 let's make some noise for Gazi and Davis, my product 1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:39.040 and the whole staff they hold staff I was, I 1:18:39.160 --> 1:18:41.040 was in I was out there the other day and 1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:42.760 I went to the label. 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:44.599 And they walked me through it on the West coast 1:18:44.640 --> 1:18:46.000 in the Bay, Yeah, in the Bay, and they walked 1:18:46.000 --> 1:18:48.200 me through and then in front of the club. I 1:18:48.240 --> 1:18:51.320 didn't go to the club, but what they got they got. 1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:54.000 Go to the studio and he flipped on me for 1:18:54.080 --> 1:19:01.920 leaving my charge in the car charging the cars, so 1:19:02.360 --> 1:19:04.240 he showed me. I went to the studio. But the 1:19:04.320 --> 1:19:06.479 whole staff they got and where a lot of people 1:19:06.520 --> 1:19:09.360 don't know, there's a lot of this afrobeat music that 1:19:09.439 --> 1:19:13.200 you're listening to is independent. These that shit is independent. 1:19:13.240 --> 1:19:15.880 It's on the radios being played because afro music is 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:19.320 so hot right now that you know it's slipping through the. 1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:20.960 You don't have to be on the major You don't 1:19:21.000 --> 1:19:21.559 have to spend. 1:19:21.400 --> 1:19:24.320 One hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred fifty thousand, and Ghzi. 1:19:24.120 --> 1:19:26.320 Is doing that. He got he got reggae thrown artists. 1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:27.760 I was like, damn, I was counting his money. 1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:28.559 I was like, man, you. 1:19:28.600 --> 1:19:32.040 Gotta really, we gotta people thank for the whole Bay 1:19:32.200 --> 1:19:33.800 area and the Oakley. 1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:37.519 Area because that's where it's independent. Depending independence man. 1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:39.240 Came from it and not taking nothing away from Houston. 1:19:39.280 --> 1:19:40.840 I don't know who started and ship like that, but 1:19:40.960 --> 1:19:44.439 I know in the Bay and in Oakland, young boy's 1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:46.800 been out there doing that independent thing for you for 1:19:47.000 --> 1:19:49.680 a long time. As you see, Gazi has turned that 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:52.559 ship into a multi million dollar operation. 1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:56.080 Yeah we went to Edition. Yeah we went to the studio. 1:19:56.680 --> 1:19:58.600 They building a pool and that motherfucker. 1:19:58.400 --> 1:20:01.960 They all all forty You know what I mean, too short. 1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:05.120 I mean it's a lot of artists. I started out 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:07.960 there from an independent lane for making a shipload of money, 1:20:08.000 --> 1:20:08.680 so you know, I. 1:20:09.000 --> 1:20:13.800 None in Then in the car I heard saying, you 1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:15.840 don't you don't get what you deserve, you give it, 1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:17.040 you negotiate. 1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:19.000 One hundred percent. That's a that's a true fact. So 1:20:19.040 --> 1:20:21.840 I hope you negotiate what you deserve the more you heard, 1:20:22.240 --> 1:20:25.560 because it's cold out here, and and sometimes I do 1:20:25.880 --> 1:20:28.840 I do deals with I don't get what I deserve, 1:20:28.920 --> 1:20:30.560 but I know what I'm I'm gonna take that and 1:20:30.680 --> 1:20:31.680 do with it and things like that. 1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:33.479 So you know, you gotta be smart when you approach 1:20:33.520 --> 1:20:33.880 the table. 1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:36.240 Every every dinner's gonna be different, even though it's the 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:37.120 same dish you heard. 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:41.280 We're gonna we're gonna do quick time of slim. We're 1:20:41.280 --> 1:20:43.120 gonna just play in the game real quick. The fact 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:46.120 is we we we said we're not gonna drink hard liquor, 1:20:46.160 --> 1:20:47.920 so we're gonna do shots a champagne. 1:20:48.080 --> 1:20:53.040 All right, Okay, Jamie, you ready with Jamie, We'll see 1:20:53.080 --> 1:21:00.280 in the building. God damn from everybody from Instagram? What's 1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:00.840 my man name? 1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:05.920 Rights? 1:21:05.960 --> 1:21:06.559 In the building? 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:10.800 Got it's my birthday weekend. 1:21:10.920 --> 1:21:12.160 Yes, I'm trying to celebrate. 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:15.320 I got all my artists down here in Miami with me, 1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:16.840 so I wanted everybody to come out. 1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:21.280 Signs you yes, first I see him going that put 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:21.679 your teeth. 1:21:21.680 --> 1:21:23.840 I knew something was Oh my. 1:21:23.880 --> 1:21:27.040 God, rate in the first comedian signs to a vo record. 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:30.320 That is all the washing we on the GRAM, cutting 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:31.960 up and things like that, and I hit them up 1:21:32.000 --> 1:21:33.800 like yo, man, I got a proposition for you. Man, 1:21:33.840 --> 1:21:35.680 I think you know what I mean. And so here 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:37.600 we are. He's been working on the stand up. 1:21:38.040 --> 1:21:40.280 We're about to put out his uh, his his comedy 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:41.559 album fire. 1:21:42.160 --> 1:21:44.760 His soul is dope. Man, good kids. You don't got 1:21:44.800 --> 1:21:45.519 a female artist? 1:21:45.840 --> 1:21:51.720 Yeah, the rate female artist shouts, The jew shouts, the 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:54.640 no I D shouts, the yellow. 1:21:56.360 --> 1:22:00.560 Yellow, yes, yellow. All right, So this is how the 1:22:00.640 --> 1:22:02.360 game goes. If you, if you're. 1:22:02.320 --> 1:22:05.639 Literally correct, you say none, did we take a shot? 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:09.200 If you say both, did we take a shot? But 1:22:09.560 --> 1:22:12.200 but if you so so, if you pick one or 1:22:12.200 --> 1:22:14.560 the other, there's no shot. But I drink with you, 1:22:14.680 --> 1:22:17.040 so it's not it's not nothing crazy and it's shot 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:17.559 the champion. 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:19.760 Give me some food. 1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:24.240 Oh, this is a good one. It's a good one. 1:22:24.720 --> 1:22:26.240 But I know I know how you're gonna answer this. 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:31.599 I know how you're gonna answer this, illmatic or doggy style. 1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:36.760 God damn, So how does this game go? Pick one? 1:22:37.200 --> 1:22:39.679 If you pick one, we don't drink. If you pick both, 1:22:40.040 --> 1:22:43.080 we drink, or either. If you pick both, like I 1:22:43.280 --> 1:22:46.200 like them like, oh yeah. 1:22:49.320 --> 1:22:51.880 Correct, and you can't decide you take a shot that 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:52.599 you can't. 1:22:52.960 --> 1:22:59.240 You can't take a shot both the first first album. 1:22:59.360 --> 1:22:59.920 So listen to me. 1:23:00.960 --> 1:23:03.360 I remember going to hm V. Remember that's the double 1:23:03.680 --> 1:23:06.639 Me and Sam Goodie, Me and my man Omar. When 1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:09.200 I was in Julia, Richmond because school, we went to 1:23:09.400 --> 1:23:11.680 h m V. What was it Tuesday's album used to 1:23:11.680 --> 1:23:14.880 come out, Yes, Tuesday, Tuesday on Tuesday stole the Snoop 1:23:14.960 --> 1:23:16.479 Dogg album One Home. 1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:18.280 I remember the whole Snoop Dogg album. 1:23:18.400 --> 1:23:20.160 That night, came back to school and the next day 1:23:20.160 --> 1:23:22.120 we were singing the whole ship all through the halls. 1:23:22.160 --> 1:23:23.760 Are you taking a shot? Okay? 1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:42.120 All right, okay, take arrest one or rock him the 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:44.160 New York You should not let you pick one. 1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:52.040 Just being honest, I'm not asked you who's try this 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:54.439 one of that one? The white one on the black one, 1:23:54.960 --> 1:23:56.880 the bunk and I jumped up to attack one. 1:23:57.360 --> 1:24:00.519 Rest one is just leave the crew up to your 1:24:00.600 --> 1:24:03.840 face saying this shoot many rock Cam. 1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:05.560 Okay, all right, so let's take the shot. That's just 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:11.479 that's not playing bro Hif didn't get a nigga dronk 1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:22.439 at least she's Takka pick one, we might jump in. Okay, French, 1:24:22.600 --> 1:24:26.960 Marktan or Rick Ross. These niggas that come up with this. 1:24:29.800 --> 1:24:32.360 Questions, all right, I can't like so and this is 1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:34.080 not it's not like your French. You know, I love 1:24:34.120 --> 1:24:37.240 you to death, have load. But I with Rick Ross, 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:41.240 I like, I like, I like Rick Ross music from French. 1:24:41.320 --> 1:24:43.840 Got a bunch of hits, but I know a bunch 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:47.680 of Rick Ross's music. Shouts the Ross the Boss and 1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:51.800 shouts the fresh. Okay, documentary he just dropped. I don't 1:24:51.800 --> 1:24:52.120 know if you can. 1:24:52.160 --> 1:24:53.760 You get to see the documentary. Art is real good. 1:24:54.000 --> 1:24:55.320 It's dope. Yeah, it's really good. 1:24:55.320 --> 1:24:55.760 Got to see it. 1:24:55.880 --> 1:24:58.000 You went from the man you want to I like 1:24:58.040 --> 1:24:59.479 seeing y'all together. It was dope. 1:24:59.479 --> 1:25:01.360 I didn't know that I would be in the documentary 1:25:01.439 --> 1:25:03.280 so much, but it's definitely dopey. 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:05.120 Squashed the beef. I ain't gonna lie. I think I 1:25:05.200 --> 1:25:06.920 caught you, and I was so proud. I'm so proud 1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:09.240 of you. So I'm so proud of New York because 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:11.439 I just feel like New York we need to show 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:13.960 unity like everyone else is showing unity. 1:25:13.720 --> 1:25:15.679 But us, because we were so cocky for so many years. 1:25:15.760 --> 1:25:19.759 But let's move on. Okay, big l or stock bundles, 1:25:20.600 --> 1:25:26.040 come on, that's great. Take a shot. Okay, yeah, your 1:25:26.080 --> 1:25:30.479 motherfuckers taking shot too? Are you doing shot? 1:25:30.560 --> 1:25:33.920 Taking shots to John John is an effect shot. 1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:39.240 That's the color that look like bronxtail? Are good Fellas delicious? Better? 1:25:39.600 --> 1:25:49.280 Damn bro listen. Just so you know, I ain't gonna 1:25:49.320 --> 1:25:49.640 front those. 1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:53.960 So I sat my son down and watched bronx Tails 1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:56.360 with him and my nephew because I needed them to. 1:25:56.920 --> 1:25:57.760 Watch that like that. 1:25:58.000 --> 1:25:59.920 That's how deep Bronxtail is with me. 1:26:00.080 --> 1:26:02.600 Like I wanted him to understand the correlation between the 1:26:02.680 --> 1:26:04.320 working man and a man in the street. 1:26:04.360 --> 1:26:06.720 And told him that I was both you watch your 1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:07.640 son watching. 1:26:07.640 --> 1:26:09.560 I sat my son down when he was younger and 1:26:09.680 --> 1:26:11.759 watched do that that Really he didn't watched. 1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:11.800 None of it. 1:26:12.520 --> 1:26:15.040 Yeah, I used to watch watch none of it. I 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:19.040 used to watch the watch That was the only movie. 1:26:19.080 --> 1:26:20.600 That was one of the only movies that I that 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:23.040 I like. Wen't went to the movies, but that was 1:26:23.080 --> 1:26:23.599 the only movie. 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:24.680 I told him, and I want to sit down and 1:26:24.720 --> 1:26:26.840 watch what you I want you to understand Broxton, who 1:26:26.920 --> 1:26:29.240 I am. I'm Iron body, both of these gentlemen right 1:26:29.240 --> 1:26:30.920 here and ship like that coming up because you know 1:26:31.000 --> 1:26:32.960 he was young and trying to understand whose father is. 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:35.280 So that was a great way to get that off. 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:37.519 Plus it's the dopest movie. Is one of my favorite movies. 1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:38.960 And Good Fella's hands down. 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:43.560 You gotta go home, You gotta gotta go home, You 1:26:43.680 --> 1:26:44.120 gotta go. 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:48.840 You ready, you know the Colombia and Dominican makes these 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:49.519 questions up. 1:26:51.000 --> 1:26:53.839 Dominican from Washington Heights. He looks like, you still sell cocaine. 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:56.840 I don't know why Columbia that de spies the coke 1:26:56.880 --> 1:27:00.280 for member, I'm just playing playing that that. 1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:13.920 It could be Cam or Mace. You just me, I'm 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:17.519 gonna go camp and this ain't wait. Let's so like, 1:27:17.640 --> 1:27:20.519 you know whatever, My my person never. 1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:22.880 Affected my in for music. 1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:25.760 I love music. You dig like when when when French 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:32.880 and then came out with the scheming scheme, I had 1:27:32.960 --> 1:27:41.400 to listen to my father like my. 1:27:53.960 --> 1:27:55.760 For me, that's when I really started hating. 1:27:55.800 --> 1:28:05.760 I was like, I hate it. Deal with shout out 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.080 the first Yeah. So what I'm saying with that is 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:10.840 between me. So you know, I lived with cam Cams 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:12.439 and my brother and whatever. 1:28:12.880 --> 1:28:15.320 I love that that we started from the bottom you heard, like, 1:28:15.479 --> 1:28:18.360 so it's like it's different, Like I noticed, I know 1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:20.559 he's a dog when to come to rapping, like I've 1:28:20.600 --> 1:28:23.160 been through thefestyle with him, also seeing how creative he 1:28:23.280 --> 1:28:24.840 is and ship like that. The same with Mas and 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:27.880 ship like that. But there's just something about Cam that I. 1:28:27.920 --> 1:28:30.680 Think Cam versus Mace on versus you going can, I'm 1:28:30.680 --> 1:28:36.320 going Cam, But Ma showed me how to wrap. 1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:39.559 I mean I've said, I've said times. 1:28:39.400 --> 1:28:43.200 But Mace was smart enough to show me how to 1:28:43.280 --> 1:28:45.080 rap and compound the balls and things like that. So 1:28:45.120 --> 1:28:46.800 I can never take that play. And Mace got some 1:28:46.880 --> 1:28:48.840 of the dopest music that I heard. Also, but Mace 1:28:48.920 --> 1:28:53.560 only has one album. Cam got platinum albums, like not 1:28:53.800 --> 1:28:55.599 one of them. And that's what people don't be understand 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:59.879 when they come to you Cam and a multi platinum 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:03.400 artists when you see them like like you heard, like 1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:07.200 real platinum plaques and not the one that was accumulated 1:29:07.240 --> 1:29:09.320 by streams, the one that people had. 1:29:09.240 --> 1:29:10.200 To go in the store and. 1:29:12.560 --> 1:29:15.120 D mill you see, you got scratched, you had to go. 1:29:17.120 --> 1:29:19.479 Like stopped playing and some people was bond toing and 1:29:19.560 --> 1:29:21.800 one of keeping it classic because it's a classic, like 1:29:21.880 --> 1:29:24.080 stop playing like you just wanted to and. 1:29:24.160 --> 1:29:26.320 These is ten ninety nine, twelve ninety nine. 1:29:26.200 --> 1:29:27.759 Like they people had to come up out their pocket. 1:29:27.880 --> 1:29:29.639 It wasn't no credit carding, no Apple pat. 1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:30.679 It was a hundred dollars. 1:29:30.800 --> 1:29:33.640 So I got a couple of apples on tape Bro 1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:36.280 Moore reporters on tape Bro, I've seen that the other day. 1:29:36.280 --> 1:29:38.880 I didn't even wanna sign it. I was like, remember. 1:29:41.880 --> 1:29:45.360 Sniffing Cam sniffing joint because you want to take Yeah, 1:29:45.360 --> 1:29:47.559 I would tell people we was bro. We was recording 1:29:47.600 --> 1:29:49.160 before pro tools, like it was just. 1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:54.439 Right, the little door, a little door you got to 1:29:54.439 --> 1:29:57.200 carry around kids don't like, Yo, it's like eight pound. 1:29:57.240 --> 1:29:58.840 It was dash and rails before. 1:29:58.920 --> 1:30:01.680 I remember when the first to real was rigged, was 1:30:01.920 --> 1:30:04.280 broke into the Hit Factory studio like, yo, there is 1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:06.720 some digital ship, like some digital ship like now we 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:08.760 don't need nothing rails no more. We're going like I 1:30:08.880 --> 1:30:12.920 remember this vividly. I remember Swiss Beasts coming in that 1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:16.320 same year, that same album recording that was Cam's first 1:30:16.360 --> 1:30:20.599 album in Hit Factory, and d and Rough Riders walked 1:30:20.640 --> 1:30:24.040 in with this young kid had to be sixteen, looked 1:30:24.080 --> 1:30:25.840 like a baby nephew. 1:30:25.960 --> 1:30:27.479 He wasn't even named Swiss at the time. 1:30:28.360 --> 1:30:32.600 It was his name is Swiss. But so that was 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:38.519 the you had you Better buy beat. He came and 1:30:38.600 --> 1:30:43.479 Cam's studio started playing some ship so he's so one 1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:46.840 of those records with Kim was cam By his first beat, 1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:49.200 besides the Beast that he gave to rough Rider, Like 1:30:49.280 --> 1:30:51.840 he was the first person to buy a Swiss beast piece. 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:52.360 I remember that. 1:30:52.400 --> 1:30:53.800 I don't want to rhund. I just want to talk 1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:54.640 to y'all ship like that. 1:30:54.760 --> 1:30:58.000 Like it's me Cam and DMX, that was the first 1:30:58.040 --> 1:31:00.479 people to Yeah, I'll give it to Cam. I ain't 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:02.240 gonna take that from Cam. But it's me Cam and 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:02.680 d m X. 1:31:02.760 --> 1:31:07.400 Yeah yeah, because it's band from TV is Stop Drop 1:31:07.840 --> 1:31:10.599 and I believe it's Glory. I believe it's the name 1:31:10.600 --> 1:31:12.840 of the record. But I'm on that record, so I 1:31:12.920 --> 1:31:22.639 can't take it. Like, hey, many this mother, remember yo yo, listen, 1:31:22.680 --> 1:31:25.600 I'm about to get you. I'm about I'm about to 1:31:25.640 --> 1:31:41.400 get you. Drink okay thinks or pop smoke. 1:31:43.640 --> 1:31:46.160 I'm gonna go with well, see, let's just drink Okay, 1:31:46.240 --> 1:31:46.639 let's drink. 1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:52.960 Yeah, yeah, New York City. God, bless both of them 1:31:53.000 --> 1:31:55.080 individuals are our piece of them. 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:58.320 Bless their family and my condolences and all that. I 1:31:58.439 --> 1:32:00.160 know it's hard when you lose someone you day. We 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:02.160 can't compare them type of people, and they're both great. 1:32:02.439 --> 1:32:05.080 They both did standing job when it came into this 1:32:05.200 --> 1:32:08.080 music and it was left prematurely you they like you 1:32:08.240 --> 1:32:10.880 know where they was both going. Like the last album 1:32:11.000 --> 1:32:14.760 that Chink did, like that boy, I didn't even know 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:18.240 he was that ill when it came to like You Dig, 1:32:18.320 --> 1:32:20.479 and then Pop Smoke put a whole new wave on 1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:22.759 top of New York City that right. 1:32:22.680 --> 1:32:25.680 Now, if he would have been alive, he would have 1:32:25.720 --> 1:32:27.439 been next. 1:32:27.920 --> 1:32:30.640 Different type of a level of stardom, Like he was 1:32:31.080 --> 1:32:33.160 really going there, like he was you know in New York, 1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:35.960 you know in New York every every ten years. 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:42.040 Life right there. It was like so I believe I believe. 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:43.679 That Pop Smoke was the next one that was gonna 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:44.000 feel that. 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:50.000 The recipes of his family too, air Force Ones or Jordan's. 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:57.080 Honestly, I'm gonna go air Force Ones heard, but Jordans 1:32:57.160 --> 1:33:00.240 is good after that, but it Ones, I just. 1:33:00.280 --> 1:33:03.000 Got just send me, just send me Drakes air Force one. 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:08.200 Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie. It's nothing different. It 1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:11.840 just got a lot boy, no boy. I was like, 1:33:11.840 --> 1:33:12.679 I'm gonna with him today. 1:33:12.680 --> 1:33:15.479 I said, Man, I'm I'm gonna step on some ship. 1:33:16.040 --> 1:33:18.920 Like I said, it's just my love. So chill and 1:33:19.439 --> 1:33:25.640 kiss or Styles peace, Let's drink. Okay, let's drink me 1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:26.639 more drink. Let's drink. 1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:30.800 Jamie there for, I ain't gonna lie. So Styles was 1:33:30.880 --> 1:33:33.640 my favorite rapper for long. You got an album with them, 1:33:34.280 --> 1:33:37.760 I don't have an album some cuts with them? Oh Eth, 1:33:37.880 --> 1:33:39.960 we were supposed I was doing got it, got to 1:33:40.000 --> 1:33:42.080 get get it. This is back in the cot gotch 1:33:42.120 --> 1:33:43.760 So we take it take just take a drink and 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:44.519 the finishing year. 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:47.600 But Sta stays. Styles was one of my drink one 1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:48.400 of my favorite rappers. 1:33:48.439 --> 1:33:51.479 I don't know. I don't know if so, I'm gonna 1:33:51.520 --> 1:33:53.720 go back in history, going to history, right, let's go. So. 1:33:53.880 --> 1:33:59.920 I remember maybe about ninety ninety six, maybe sixty seven 1:34:00.479 --> 1:34:03.439 ninety six, Yeah, maybe late ninety five ninety six. 1:34:03.520 --> 1:34:04.320 I remember. 1:34:05.880 --> 1:34:09.400 Mace used to live uptown. Kids called young guns back 1:34:09.439 --> 1:34:12.800 in the day, and uh a little short stocker kids. 1:34:13.880 --> 1:34:19.400 It's an apartment called it who called locks? You know, 1:34:19.520 --> 1:34:22.719 they were doing music and all that, the name styles 1:34:22.760 --> 1:34:25.080 and shit like that. And then he had did this 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:27.280 verse and he was like a hundred niggs stat a 1:34:27.360 --> 1:34:30.280 hundred niggas batted me. Still could shadowt me. I'm only 1:34:30.320 --> 1:34:32.920 getting up splitting up your anatomy. You heard he had 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:35.240 did that verse, right. But the funny thing was about it. 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:38.240 He was in that apartment because that incident I believe 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:40.679 had happened and ship like that, and he had turned 1:34:40.680 --> 1:34:42.320 around and did the verse and the record and shit 1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:44.240 like that. And then from there it was like the 1:34:44.400 --> 1:34:46.840 locks and everything started becoming so visible. And then I 1:34:46.960 --> 1:34:49.000 just started listening to the heavy styles like he shit 1:34:49.120 --> 1:34:50.640 wizard cheap styles was like. 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:59.479 Girl like no, no, no, take it away, don't take 1:34:59.479 --> 1:34:59.680 it awa. 1:35:00.400 --> 1:35:03.720 But but where styles was like to me, he was 1:35:03.960 --> 1:35:06.920 the lead in the locks when I first started really 1:35:07.120 --> 1:35:09.479 started engaging in the locks like styles like that snig 1:35:09.560 --> 1:35:10.040 of styles. 1:35:10.080 --> 1:35:14.280 And then Jada just started really. 1:35:15.040 --> 1:35:16.599 Start going crazy. 1:35:16.680 --> 1:35:20.400 Throughout the years, his flow became so impeccable in the world, 1:35:20.439 --> 1:35:22.640 playing and things he was talking on if he was 1:35:22.680 --> 1:35:25.240 outside and he was in getting the cause against. 1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:27.400 This nigger. 1:35:27.479 --> 1:35:29.920 Jada is going crazy so there's no way I think 1:35:30.000 --> 1:35:33.320 like you did, like shouts the whole lots shout she too, 1:35:33.439 --> 1:35:35.000 like she is nice as hell too, like you. 1:35:35.080 --> 1:35:39.000 Did, like you don't. 1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:41.600 You don't get his proper flowers. 1:35:41.280 --> 1:35:41.720 And ship like that. 1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:44.679 But she'd be going to funk off all the time 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:47.160 her like he goes crazy and ship like that. 1:35:48.000 --> 1:35:54.920 Okay, so New Jack City or Juice, I like that. 1:35:55.040 --> 1:36:02.280 I like that, Jack said, Okay, easy e or Nipsey hustle. 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:08.400 Damn my nigga. I didn't get to. I didn't. 1:36:08.479 --> 1:36:12.640 I didn't get to. I never got to. But he 1:36:12.800 --> 1:36:14.320 was one of my favorites of all time. 1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:21.360 Right easy, everybody, everybody, easy, easy say it. 1:36:22.479 --> 1:36:26.880 He bust through the string. Oh never, I'm just too clever. 1:36:26.760 --> 1:36:29.759 Show in fact that no one can evers I playing 1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:30.760 with me brop. 1:36:30.439 --> 1:36:34.240 Being outside a long time video music box. 1:36:34.320 --> 1:36:37.200 Stop doing that. Bro. Niggas ain't know what what's what 1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:40.840 West Coast term New York niggas out. 1:36:40.840 --> 1:36:44.120 Stop playing bro, Stop playing nigga when niggas seen them 1:36:44.160 --> 1:36:45.920 niggas on video music box. 1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:49.759 I remember, I said, you said some ship with Snoop. 1:36:50.400 --> 1:36:52.360 You said you was used to funk used the left stop. 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:54.200 Then you said you see them they called that. Body 1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:56.439 was like, Oh, these niggas is really gay. 1:36:56.560 --> 1:37:03.240 Yo yo yo yo bro yo, Bro, I love, I 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:06.439 love what's so certified gangsters like you did? Like I was, 1:37:06.560 --> 1:37:09.240 I'm a real fan of on West Coast music your 1:37:09.320 --> 1:37:12.560 dog Paum when dazzing them niggas was going crazy and 1:37:13.160 --> 1:37:16.280 them was coming out like bro what bro dazing the 1:37:16.400 --> 1:37:18.599 niggas was some of the nicest niggas on These niggas 1:37:18.680 --> 1:37:21.519 was going wow on records back in the days. Bro 1:37:21.760 --> 1:37:25.240 what like yo, the bet oh Man and the whole 1:37:25.400 --> 1:37:27.880 gang banging culture and ship like that. Just and then 1:37:28.560 --> 1:37:31.800 New York just started touching on the whole game, which 1:37:31.800 --> 1:37:33.559 I was just all turned out from the West Coast 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:34.519 music and ship like that. 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:35.080 You're digging in. 1:37:35.160 --> 1:37:37.760 The more I got into gang banging the mall, I 1:37:37.960 --> 1:37:40.120 was a fan of the West Coast and ship like that, 1:37:40.240 --> 1:37:45.720 and then it became a reality for me, like I'm 1:37:45.920 --> 1:37:48.639 really gang banging and now I'm doing music, and now 1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:52.040 I'm gang banging to a point that it's a thing 1:37:52.120 --> 1:37:52.960 that everybody in the. 1:37:52.960 --> 1:37:53.559 World could see. 1:37:53.960 --> 1:37:56.560 And now these niggas from the West Coast step and 1:37:56.640 --> 1:37:58.880 gang banging all their life and they Mama band, they 1:37:58.920 --> 1:38:01.400 papa been ganging, their uncle been gang banging, and now 1:38:01.840 --> 1:38:04.360 asking questions one of these niggas in New York acting 1:38:04.439 --> 1:38:07.280 like they really game banging. These niggas is fake bloods 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:11.320 her like really fake bloods. I'm really getting death threats 1:38:11.479 --> 1:38:13.760 all the way on on the East Coast and shit 1:38:13.840 --> 1:38:16.160 like that, like really like I'm getting a bunch of 1:38:16.240 --> 1:38:16.960 bloods calling me. 1:38:17.000 --> 1:38:18.479 I'm getting all type of shit going on. 1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:21.360 When in the midst of the DIP set and really 1:38:21.400 --> 1:38:26.200 started getting into the height enough commercializing the gang banging 1:38:26.320 --> 1:38:29.880 on the East Coast, like we were responsible for that, 1:38:29.960 --> 1:38:33.000 and that shit came what not I would to say 1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:35.439 a price, but it came with questions and shit like that. 1:38:35.600 --> 1:38:37.599 So it was a point that I had to put 1:38:37.680 --> 1:38:41.480 on for what we were doing from the East Coast perspective, 1:38:41.720 --> 1:38:43.320 and I don't even really put on like go to 1:38:43.439 --> 1:38:45.880 the West Coast and do our video in the West 1:38:45.880 --> 1:38:47.640 Coast and really go to the West Coast and go 1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:50.040 to every hood on the West Coast and not saying 1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:52.160 I'm a bad man. There was people that we were 1:38:52.200 --> 1:38:54.320 calling so we could understand and build a bridge to 1:38:54.560 --> 1:38:56.519 what we were going on. Because we were all game banging. 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:58.320 We were just all killing each other anyway. It was 1:38:58.360 --> 1:39:00.240 just black on black crime that was going on, but 1:39:00.439 --> 1:39:02.960 just on the different side. But to build a connection 1:39:03.040 --> 1:39:04.600 because we were all blood and shit like that was 1:39:04.640 --> 1:39:05.479 more or less what I was. 1:39:05.479 --> 1:39:07.320 Thinking about and shit like that. And that's what I 1:39:07.520 --> 1:39:08.120 was able to do. 1:39:08.880 --> 1:39:11.439 And I was able to go through California or LA 1:39:11.760 --> 1:39:14.200 and meet with some of the most notorious gang bangers 1:39:14.240 --> 1:39:17.559 out there, both crypt and blood, and that helped build 1:39:17.760 --> 1:39:20.439 the bridge to what we have today that there's so 1:39:20.600 --> 1:39:24.120 much East Coast and West Coast people that have camaraderie 1:39:24.200 --> 1:39:26.040 that all gang banging and shit like that. 1:39:26.760 --> 1:39:29.200 From my observation of seeing shit right like as a 1:39:29.280 --> 1:39:33.000 fan growing up, like I felt like at first it 1:39:33.120 --> 1:39:35.280 was like kind of cool to be cripped, like snooping 1:39:35.320 --> 1:39:37.120 number is popping all that. It was like cool to 1:39:37.200 --> 1:39:39.760 be cripped. Then when y'all came out, well you came 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:41.160 out you you know, you wrapping the blush. 1:39:41.320 --> 1:39:41.360 It. 1:39:41.600 --> 1:39:44.800 I feel like around like old Fall five, like you 1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:50.200 start really going crazy with again Lit And from my perspective, 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:53.400 I feel like you influenced the Lord Wayne shit, like 1:39:53.520 --> 1:39:54.800 you know you Juel's camp. 1:39:54.800 --> 1:39:58.400 I feel like y'all influenced that a little bit from 1:39:58.400 --> 1:40:00.840 where who he became who he became like he was like. 1:40:01.120 --> 1:40:04.599 Shouts the Wayne shouts the whole cash money. That's our family, man. 1:40:04.640 --> 1:40:06.840 We got a lot of history with them, And I mean, 1:40:06.960 --> 1:40:09.600 I do believe that Wayne was influenced heavily by what 1:40:09.720 --> 1:40:11.760 we were doing and Dip Set from the way we 1:40:11.880 --> 1:40:15.000 were walking, dressing and talking, the game, bank culture, how 1:40:15.120 --> 1:40:17.080 fly it was. They was getting some money and ship 1:40:17.160 --> 1:40:19.760 like that. You digging, They dove into it and ship 1:40:19.840 --> 1:40:21.320 like that. And I'm saying, I don't know what they 1:40:21.360 --> 1:40:23.320 were doing before that, but I know there was a 1:40:23.479 --> 1:40:26.439 change once they started mixing with the Dip Set whole 1:40:26.680 --> 1:40:28.320 movement and things like that. And I love Wayne the 1:40:28.360 --> 1:40:30.680 deaf and shit like that. That's the blood blood. How 1:40:30.720 --> 1:40:33.960 you feeling to him like that? That's that's the god 1:40:34.080 --> 1:40:35.160 shouts the bird Man too. 1:40:35.240 --> 1:40:37.960 Man. One of the most incredible executives. He don't get his. 1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:41.040 Flowers the way he should be, but he probably got 1:40:41.200 --> 1:40:44.759 He got one of the most retarded his runs inside 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:48.360 of this hip hop history ever in all times, hands down. 1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:49.599 And he's still running. 1:40:50.120 --> 1:40:53.400 But they forget the correlation of what he is responsible for. 1:40:53.600 --> 1:40:55.880 And still connected to and still getting paid off of. 1:40:57.120 --> 1:40:59.160 You know what I mean, like real shouts of the 1:40:59.200 --> 1:41:06.040 whole hash money, So heat Makers or hit Maker Ship. 1:41:09.080 --> 1:41:11.599 I got, I got albums and relationships with both of them. 1:41:12.280 --> 1:41:16.280 He Makers is actually one person that's awesome this He's 1:41:16.360 --> 1:41:19.120 responsible for the whole dip set sound, so the whole 1:41:19.240 --> 1:41:22.000 ramped up sample sounds that you loved, Jowels and camp 1:41:22.120 --> 1:41:24.160 full and ship like that, the whole that's what he 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:24.960 was responsible for. 1:41:25.560 --> 1:41:27.760 Hit Maker is actually Young Bird, which we've. 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:30.519 Seen reinvent himself and so many times from being a 1:41:30.640 --> 1:41:32.720 rapper to now one of the top producers of all 1:41:32.800 --> 1:41:36.400 times like that, and I just did an album with 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:39.320 him back in my prime shouts the problem on twelve 1:41:39.400 --> 1:41:40.760 one of my favorite spots out here. 1:41:41.160 --> 1:41:41.680 Check that out. 1:41:43.320 --> 1:41:47.240 Okay, push your tea or malice. 1:42:09.680 --> 1:42:16.439 To keep it a buck. 1:42:16.479 --> 1:42:18.680 I'm gonna go with push your tea, so we're not 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:21.439 gonna drink to them, but shouts to push your. 1:42:21.360 --> 1:42:24.120 Tea, very dope water. Everybody know he's a monster when 1:42:24.160 --> 1:42:25.439 that comes to doing music. 1:42:25.520 --> 1:42:26.880 I can't take nothing away from them. 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:29.280 I know everybody's seen every thing that was going on 1:42:29.439 --> 1:42:33.240 recently inside of the media and the internet. I believe 1:42:33.280 --> 1:42:35.160 it was cool one time of my life I got 1:42:35.240 --> 1:42:38.960 to engage into some verbal warfare and and don't have 1:42:39.080 --> 1:42:41.400 to go beyond that and ship like that. Who knows 1:42:41.640 --> 1:42:44.120 what he might come up with. He's very crafty and 1:42:44.200 --> 1:42:47.280 ship like that. Some people react off top, some people 1:42:47.400 --> 1:42:49.760 take years to come back. I've seen niggas have beef 1:42:49.840 --> 1:42:52.320 and years to try to kill a nigga you heard. 1:42:52.680 --> 1:42:54.720 It's not all successful. But this is what I'm trying 1:42:54.720 --> 1:42:56.320 to say, how people try to line people up. But 1:42:56.800 --> 1:42:58.320 for the most part, I think it was dope. 1:42:58.360 --> 1:42:58.920 It was cute. 1:42:59.600 --> 1:43:01.599 I don't know if he actually take a shot at. 1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:02.519 Me, but it was. 1:43:03.120 --> 1:43:03.960 It was huge. 1:43:04.080 --> 1:43:06.679 It was it was it was pointing, it was pointed 1:43:06.720 --> 1:43:07.439 in that direction. 1:43:08.520 --> 1:43:10.320 It maybe you made me feel the type of way 1:43:10.360 --> 1:43:12.120 I wanted to say this related, but he could always say, 1:43:12.120 --> 1:43:13.320 you know, Jim, I wasn't talking about you. 1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:15.839 I mean, and I would be hurt. That would be heartbreak. 1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:19.040 Was so upset. 1:43:27.280 --> 1:43:36.880 About Mama was talking about talking about let me let 1:43:36.960 --> 1:43:37.280 me start. 1:43:37.320 --> 1:43:38.880 I mean what it is, what it is man, whatever 1:43:38.920 --> 1:43:40.760 however they want to take it is cool, you know, 1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:42.800 I mean, like you did this, It's still rap music 1:43:42.880 --> 1:43:43.400 and like that. 1:43:43.520 --> 1:43:47.120 I've seen cool o d be like I'm from I'm 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:47.760 from that row. 1:43:48.600 --> 1:43:49.200 This is what it is. 1:43:49.320 --> 1:43:50.120 We see what it is. 1:43:50.439 --> 1:43:52.599 I put a response out there, pretty crafty, I think 1:43:52.680 --> 1:43:54.280 I think I think it was pretty crafty. 1:43:59.160 --> 1:43:59.800 To me is my mother. 1:44:01.400 --> 1:44:03.120 But that's not a subject that we gotta dwell on. 1:44:03.880 --> 1:44:06.080 Get me out of here. We're out here, al or 1:44:06.120 --> 1:44:06.679 sham guard. 1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:12.200 Damn, that's crazy. So I'm gonna pick. 1:44:12.640 --> 1:44:14.760 Oh, you're gonna pick I was going to drink to that. 1:44:14.840 --> 1:44:23.640 I'm going to pick Ali Moe blesseds and not. And 1:44:23.800 --> 1:44:27.080 that's not because he passed away RP to his soul. 1:44:27.320 --> 1:44:29.200 Like I went to high school Alley Moore. 1:44:29.280 --> 1:44:30.280 I know Ali Moore. 1:44:30.280 --> 1:44:32.599 I watched Ali Moore playing basketball with Cam. I watched 1:44:32.640 --> 1:44:35.160 Ali Moore playing basketball and tournaments. He was hands down 1:44:35.240 --> 1:44:38.000 one of the nicest individuals in basketball in the world. 1:44:39.120 --> 1:44:41.479 I'm not talking about not not not, I'm talking about 1:44:41.479 --> 1:44:42.280 in the world. 1:44:42.840 --> 1:44:45.040 I've seen that kid do some things that will never 1:44:45.160 --> 1:44:47.519 ever be duplicated in basketball at all. 1:44:47.800 --> 1:44:51.440 I mean, and I don't know if there was no Instagram, 1:44:51.560 --> 1:44:51.800 it was. 1:44:51.840 --> 1:44:52.439 Not that error. 1:44:52.880 --> 1:44:54.840 This was an era that you have to be at. 1:44:54.920 --> 1:44:57.880 But Ali Moe, the Black widow hands down. And you 1:44:58.000 --> 1:45:00.479 can ask anybody who's been around since they nineties and 1:45:00.560 --> 1:45:04.080 watching basketball and street basketball and in high school basketball. 1:45:04.360 --> 1:45:06.639 He's like and no disrespect to Shamguard. 1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:09.880 Shamguard is one of the earliest niggas with a basketball 1:45:09.960 --> 1:45:12.880 in his hand, his handle. He got basketball moves named 1:45:12.880 --> 1:45:15.320 after him. You heard, but the moves that Ali Moe 1:45:15.479 --> 1:45:17.280 was doing and didn't have no name for. He was 1:45:17.360 --> 1:45:18.600 doing his ships off the whim like. 1:45:18.800 --> 1:45:23.600 I took the shot. I'm sorry. I mean tell you, 1:45:23.760 --> 1:45:25.599 I tell you like Ali, like Ali. 1:45:26.960 --> 1:45:29.840 Player, his trip used to be so low, talking about 1:45:30.320 --> 1:45:31.719 to be so low, talk. 1:45:31.560 --> 1:45:36.600 About listen when I met him and Yo, I'm getting you. 1:45:46.080 --> 1:45:58.400 I wanted to Jim Jones, Okay, all Swiss beats, Digger 1:45:58.720 --> 1:46:00.479 Swiss beats, We're going. 1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:06.880 If nobody know who six figured digg is sig dig is. 1:46:06.960 --> 1:46:07.760 The first. 1:46:09.040 --> 1:46:12.480 Producer for Cameron Bloodshed. 1:46:13.040 --> 1:46:15.439 I would say Mace from back when they started with 1:46:15.600 --> 1:46:18.960 Children of the Corner and asked Cameron game his success 1:46:19.000 --> 1:46:19.600 those with all the. 1:46:19.640 --> 1:46:21.920 Beasts that Digger was making and things like that. 1:46:22.439 --> 1:46:25.720 Also digg It Diigger created the Diplomat logo so that 1:46:25.840 --> 1:46:29.000 eagle with the that's going through he created that logo 1:46:29.120 --> 1:46:29.759 for anybody. 1:46:30.120 --> 1:46:33.120 Sugar Digger, six figure digger. 1:46:33.200 --> 1:46:35.880 He created the one half of your mustache is gray 1:46:35.880 --> 1:46:37.759 and the other half to get. 1:46:37.640 --> 1:46:50.240 Your fucking you up. Okay, this is the last one 1:46:50.280 --> 1:46:53.880 on quick Time of s line and I'm very curious. 1:46:54.320 --> 1:46:55.160 This is my favorite one. 1:46:55.200 --> 1:46:58.160 Me and Finish is our favorite one that we always 1:46:58.240 --> 1:47:00.360 ask and this is the one that we always feel like. 1:47:00.400 --> 1:47:08.679 This the most simple ast loyalty or respect? Respect? Okay, now, respect, 1:47:08.720 --> 1:47:19.120 we want to break it down mmmm. Same respect. Respect 1:47:19.200 --> 1:47:21.479 is something that's earned and not given. 1:47:24.800 --> 1:47:27.200 Somebody could just be loyal, to be loyal to something 1:47:27.240 --> 1:47:28.760 that they want to be a part of that has 1:47:28.840 --> 1:47:30.720 nothing to do with the same respect they might have 1:47:30.960 --> 1:47:31.400 not for you. 1:47:31.400 --> 1:47:32.479 You heard. 1:47:33.680 --> 1:47:36.240 Somebody can be loyal to an opportunity and not have 1:47:36.400 --> 1:47:37.240 no respect for you. 1:47:39.400 --> 1:47:39.599 Heard. 1:47:40.920 --> 1:47:44.400 Hold on now and they say respect, Let's talk about 1:47:44.439 --> 1:47:47.400 respect because everybody not might not respect you. 1:47:47.880 --> 1:47:50.920 But I always say that's cool. But you're not going 1:47:51.000 --> 1:47:52.200 to disrespect me. 1:47:53.040 --> 1:47:53.880 You heard right. 1:47:54.200 --> 1:47:56.800 We're gonna get that straight off the top. And if 1:47:56.880 --> 1:47:59.720 you if you try that, you're gonna learn to respect me. 1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:03.640 About this lesson, I'm gonna give you. You heard, So 1:48:04.200 --> 1:48:07.200 that's how I feel but and and being loyal. Yes, 1:48:07.280 --> 1:48:12.120 it's something that's very precious, especially when it's amongst the 1:48:12.200 --> 1:48:14.439 brotherhood and things like that. And I've been loyal to 1:48:14.520 --> 1:48:17.200 a flaw to everything that I attached myself to, anybody 1:48:17.280 --> 1:48:20.679 that I've attached myself to, and people can't I wish 1:48:20.720 --> 1:48:26.160 somebody would say anything about my loyalty to what I've No. 1:48:26.240 --> 1:48:27.240 I think I think no. 1:48:27.360 --> 1:48:31.000 One can't question your sing both. So you're actually saying both. 1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:33.639 I'm being honest. That's a good shot. I won't even drive, 1:48:33.760 --> 1:48:36.559 but that was a great that's a great focus. 1:48:36.800 --> 1:48:37.519 You gotta take the shot. 1:48:37.920 --> 1:48:38.479 We won't take. 1:48:41.360 --> 1:48:46.040 Respect over loyalty anything you did, because whether you loyalty 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:48.920 and not, we were all we're gonna respect each other. 1:48:49.720 --> 1:48:57.680 That's a great answers. So so because we only got 1:48:57.720 --> 1:48:59.240 a little while longer because they got to wrap it 1:48:59.320 --> 1:49:03.799 up you. But one thing did I notice? Right the verses, 1:49:05.120 --> 1:49:07.200 I was so hyped. I can't make it to New York. 1:49:07.800 --> 1:49:09.760 Pat Joe was calling me, Man, we gotta be front, bro. 1:49:10.920 --> 1:49:13.080 I'm like, because it's from real New York. Ship Like, 1:49:13.160 --> 1:49:15.479 I just smelled the Timberlands from where I was at, 1:49:15.720 --> 1:49:19.040 wherever I was, I smelled. I smelled Timberlands, I smelled 1:49:19.120 --> 1:49:22.760 sour like I was tuned in. But the one thing 1:49:23.240 --> 1:49:26.559 that I noticed about the verses prior to being recorded 1:49:26.880 --> 1:49:30.280 was I called you, I called Cam, I called you else. 1:49:32.640 --> 1:49:36.920 I caused kissing styles and they were together. They were 1:49:36.960 --> 1:49:40.960 together with hearsing. So I automatically knew. I automatically knew 1:49:41.000 --> 1:49:44.120 that was a tiny advantage because hold on, take a 1:49:44.160 --> 1:49:44.560 shot with you. 1:49:44.560 --> 1:49:51.680 Hold on, you can't jesus stick with Bobby Brown for 1:49:51.760 --> 1:49:55.280 a second. A couple more said all right, my bad, 1:49:57.000 --> 1:50:03.000 yet hold on. Do you think that that was the reason? 1:50:03.080 --> 1:50:05.240 Why is because did y'all kind of look at it 1:50:05.320 --> 1:50:05.960 more as. 1:50:05.800 --> 1:50:17.400 A bag off? I'm gonna ask you it was both, okay. 1:50:18.280 --> 1:50:21.840 I mean, it was a great bag the saving money 1:50:21.920 --> 1:50:24.640 through us at the time, and it was a dope opportunity. 1:50:25.040 --> 1:50:26.240 But as all them niggas, you know. 1:50:26.280 --> 1:50:27.760 We think were the coolest niggas, and we got it 1:50:27.800 --> 1:50:31.000 all together all the time, and we don't. 1:50:32.320 --> 1:50:34.120 Hard work bet talent every time. 1:50:34.520 --> 1:50:37.360 And yes we are super talented individuals, you know, but 1:50:37.439 --> 1:50:38.160 when you don't put that. 1:50:38.240 --> 1:50:41.080 Working working, you're gonna tend to come up short. 1:50:41.360 --> 1:50:43.400 And I don't think we put enough working for the 1:50:43.520 --> 1:50:45.880 task that was at hand because we think we so 1:50:46.040 --> 1:50:48.160 cool and we always conform vultra on and shit like that, 1:50:48.280 --> 1:50:50.000 and that place blame on no one, a place, blame 1:50:50.080 --> 1:50:51.040 on all of us, and ship like. 1:50:51.080 --> 1:50:51.479 That you did. 1:50:51.640 --> 1:50:54.479 But I see a lot of people say that it 1:50:54.640 --> 1:50:57.439 was it was how y'all laid it out. It wasn't that, 1:50:58.000 --> 1:50:59.519 you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, it's cool. 1:50:59.560 --> 1:51:02.880 I mean I think that. I think it was a 1:51:02.960 --> 1:51:05.920 great battle all the way up into the end. 1:51:06.080 --> 1:51:07.000 Did I think it was fun? 1:51:07.040 --> 1:51:08.720 I think it was entertainer, but the fans got a 1:51:08.720 --> 1:51:11.000 different perspective on what they see and ship like that. 1:51:11.040 --> 1:51:12.800 It's cool, But I had a great time. 1:51:12.880 --> 1:51:18.600 But like I said, uh, proper preparation prevents poor performance 1:51:19.000 --> 1:51:19.519 every time. 1:51:20.080 --> 1:51:21.120 Did y'all do it over? 1:51:21.800 --> 1:51:25.479 We wasn't properly prepared. We didn't rehearse per se. We 1:51:25.600 --> 1:51:29.800 got together, gathering, put a game plan together. But we 1:51:29.960 --> 1:51:32.439 knew better than I think we all knew that we 1:51:32.880 --> 1:51:34.960 couldn't have rehearsed and they and they taught. 1:51:34.800 --> 1:51:37.439 Us that, and ship like that, And I said, and 1:51:37.520 --> 1:51:42.120 I supposed to styles I felt them sweating, like I 1:51:42.200 --> 1:51:45.320 felt like they were serious, and I was just like, damn, 1:51:45.400 --> 1:51:48.479 they taking this ship too like. But anybody that's down 1:51:48.520 --> 1:51:49.840 with did he take it serious? You know? 1:51:50.000 --> 1:51:52.800 Did he make people rehearse it, prepared for shows, all 1:51:52.880 --> 1:51:53.200 type of. 1:51:54.760 --> 1:51:56.519 But the same the same thing with us, the same 1:51:56.600 --> 1:51:58.280 thing with cam. Cam is a menace when it comes 1:51:58.320 --> 1:52:00.320 to that type of ship. But you know, we we 1:52:00.479 --> 1:52:02.400 have we all have our disconnect and ship like that. 1:52:02.560 --> 1:52:05.200 And you know, but I can't take nothing away from 1:52:05.240 --> 1:52:06.600 the hall word that the Locks put it in and 1:52:06.680 --> 1:52:07.439 ship like that you did. 1:52:07.560 --> 1:52:09.000 It was their time and that was the way it 1:52:09.120 --> 1:52:09.519 was written. 1:52:09.560 --> 1:52:10.080 And ship like that. 1:52:10.160 --> 1:52:11.679 And I'm a fan of what they did and ship 1:52:11.760 --> 1:52:14.400 like that. They look good out there. I took my 1:52:14.439 --> 1:52:17.640 hand to them, ready. 1:52:17.360 --> 1:52:20.400 For the rematch. It was hip hop. No. But what 1:52:20.800 --> 1:52:26.960 with Jim Jones is Jim Jones is battling men bleak? 1:52:27.960 --> 1:52:33.960 I mean not being like, I don't like Memphis. Someone's 1:52:34.000 --> 1:52:42.599 moving a spot, Memphis, Someone's moving. I'm sorry that spots. 1:52:43.920 --> 1:52:46.840 Somebody get it bad shots. 1:52:46.920 --> 1:52:50.040 The men bleak working. He ain't no sloushy. He put it. 1:52:50.120 --> 1:52:51.439 He put in a lot of work. He got he 1:52:51.520 --> 1:52:54.759 got some hints. But I don't think that he's ready 1:52:54.800 --> 1:52:55.920 for the type of ship that. 1:52:55.920 --> 1:52:58.000 Would go on in the verses with me and on 1:52:58.160 --> 1:52:59.680 that type of forum and ship like that, Like I 1:52:59.760 --> 1:53:03.040 really like people tend to look over the catalog that 1:53:03.120 --> 1:53:04.720 I have and ship like that, like I've really made 1:53:04.760 --> 1:53:08.360 classic albums, and I really French platinum hits. Now, that'd 1:53:08.400 --> 1:53:11.320 be dope, fresh guy hell hits. But in New York 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:13.960 City we would go up. We heard we would go 1:53:14.160 --> 1:53:16.000 off in New York City. It'd be a battle. I 1:53:16.000 --> 1:53:16.559 would love to do. 1:53:16.600 --> 1:53:16.960 Something like that. 1:53:17.040 --> 1:53:19.720 But then French Fresk got some big, big, big ass hits, 1:53:19.800 --> 1:53:21.479 like I can't take away from him, and ship like that. 1:53:21.560 --> 1:53:23.920 You did, like he definitely put the work and he deserved. 1:53:24.040 --> 1:53:25.320 I'm just saying that I got a hell of a 1:53:25.400 --> 1:53:27.800 catalog and and the forum that was said, if you 1:53:27.880 --> 1:53:29.400 put me in New York City in that type of 1:53:29.479 --> 1:53:31.559 form and ship like that, I do believe that Capitol 1:53:31.560 --> 1:53:33.439 will have a lot of tricks up under his sleeve 1:53:33.479 --> 1:53:36.040 because I got so undeniable hits, and then I got 1:53:36.080 --> 1:53:38.600 some undeniable New York hits, a lot of them. You 1:53:38.680 --> 1:53:41.040 did like and that and and that's and that's hard 1:53:41.120 --> 1:53:42.840 to beat when you're into town, you know what I mean. 1:53:43.000 --> 1:53:45.559 If you and French is battling who is Drake coming 1:53:45.600 --> 1:53:48.160 out with? Because Drake I don't, I don't. 1:53:48.240 --> 1:53:49.920 I mean, I don't have any I don't have any 1:53:49.960 --> 1:53:52.519 records with Drake. But if Drake don't come out with French, 1:53:52.560 --> 1:53:55.360 that would definitely records with the hell of a cheat 1:53:55.400 --> 1:54:03.400 code super light, That's what I'm saying. So it's like, 1:54:03.560 --> 1:54:05.840 God damn, like you did. But I definitely would have 1:54:05.880 --> 1:54:07.719 a great time inside of New York shot the French. 1:54:07.760 --> 1:54:09.800 But I do believe that there's other people that Front 1:54:09.800 --> 1:54:11.599 should go up against that he would. He would definitely 1:54:11.600 --> 1:54:13.160 give him a run for their money and ship like that. 1:54:13.280 --> 1:54:16.120 Like he he he's earned the respect as far as 1:54:16.160 --> 1:54:18.120 the hiss that he's put out and the music that 1:54:18.160 --> 1:54:19.600 he's put out to go up against a lot of 1:54:19.640 --> 1:54:21.519 people and ship like that when it comes to that 1:54:21.680 --> 1:54:23.400 type of form, and he could do it anywhere because 1:54:23.439 --> 1:54:27.680 he got them type of his right right. Yeah, you know, 1:54:27.720 --> 1:54:29.400 I keep it funky man. I ain't really got no 1:54:29.560 --> 1:54:31.720 you know what I mean. We're gonna talk about it. 1:54:31.760 --> 1:54:34.280 We're gonna talk about We're always gonna keep it down 1:54:34.320 --> 1:54:34.960 the line. 1:54:35.600 --> 1:54:42.280 To Zeke get down for so long, big change. 1:54:47.880 --> 1:54:48.320 Just like that. 1:54:48.440 --> 1:54:51.240 But you're down for so long. He's been lord with 1:54:51.320 --> 1:54:53.920 it people so long, and he wrapped and done all 1:54:54.000 --> 1:54:56.240 of that. Don't wrap I'm about. 1:54:57.520 --> 1:54:59.760 Can I say before get out here, because. 1:54:59.560 --> 1:55:02.640 I always like, I always like to promote all I'm 1:55:02.760 --> 1:55:03.680 about to start. 1:55:03.560 --> 1:55:19.120 Loyal time John, he kept going after the go. 1:55:20.680 --> 1:55:21.440 In that case. 1:55:22.240 --> 1:55:23.760 So I just want to say that I'm about to 1:55:23.760 --> 1:55:26.400 start shooting the late night variety show with alive and 1:55:26.440 --> 1:55:29.160 studio audience. And I want to say, variety show, you 1:55:29.200 --> 1:55:31.360 got characters and stuff with it. So I want people 1:55:31.360 --> 1:55:32.760 to look out for this late night show. I mean 1:55:32.760 --> 1:55:34.520 a real late night show like New York Hall and 1:55:35.120 --> 1:55:37.640 in living color type of ship. Been working on it 1:55:37.680 --> 1:55:39.160 for a while. We're about to start shooting at the 1:55:39.280 --> 1:55:41.320 at the end of August. You know, I've been into 1:55:41.400 --> 1:55:43.560 this whole uh making television shows. 1:55:43.560 --> 1:55:46.080 I call you all the time. A lot of the 1:55:46.200 --> 1:55:48.240 things way better than I just want to tell my 1:55:48.280 --> 1:55:49.040 hat to you and give you. 1:55:49.040 --> 1:55:51.840 Your flowers at the before any I mean, while we 1:55:51.920 --> 1:55:53.400 have the opportunity. 1:55:52.880 --> 1:55:54.920 Because what you've been doing is a hell of a job. 1:55:54.960 --> 1:55:57.000 I've seen you turn your life around a lot of 1:55:57.040 --> 1:55:59.440 different times, and this one it seems like you really figured. 1:55:59.160 --> 1:56:00.200 Out what you need to be. 1:56:05.040 --> 1:56:07.640 You know what it is like an open shop and 1:56:07.680 --> 1:56:10.280 set up shop and closed shop whenever I want. And 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:14.200 you know, I got tired of like doing show. You 1:56:14.200 --> 1:56:16.600 know when you do shows with other people, like you 1:56:16.640 --> 1:56:18.440 don't know if these people are there to see them 1:56:18.800 --> 1:56:20.800 or to see you. I sort of hate them to 1:56:21.280 --> 1:56:23.000 the best part about this is I see you happy. 1:56:23.360 --> 1:56:26.000 I'm happy to see a whole different from yes, yes. 1:56:26.360 --> 1:56:26.800 I grew up. 1:56:27.280 --> 1:56:28.240 I mean we all get older. 1:56:28.920 --> 1:56:31.360 We changed that ten years because to see where you're 1:56:31.400 --> 1:56:34.280 at making boss moves, you're putting people in a position 1:56:34.360 --> 1:56:34.600 to win. 1:56:34.800 --> 1:56:36.360 Think you got how you're hiring people. 1:56:36.440 --> 1:56:38.600 I see you hire your son speak speaking of you 1:56:38.680 --> 1:56:41.680 hire your son. This is this is this is my son, 1:56:41.880 --> 1:56:42.760 This is my son's tea. 1:56:43.000 --> 1:56:44.080 This coven is cool. 1:56:45.560 --> 1:56:54.640 That's fire, that's crazy, that's fire, all right. He puts 1:56:54.680 --> 1:56:56.120 something over your face so he don't get you. 1:56:58.920 --> 1:57:05.400 Anybody anybody else can use the diplomat diplomat logo like 1:57:05.600 --> 1:57:08.520 this definitely him. So you know, I'm just like, I 1:57:08.600 --> 1:57:10.320 see you put your son in position and things like that. 1:57:10.400 --> 1:57:12.800 I've been working side of side with my with my 1:57:12.880 --> 1:57:14.280 son for years to try to figure out what he 1:57:14.360 --> 1:57:16.440 want to do when he finally got something, so I'm 1:57:16.600 --> 1:57:18.560 excited to pipe him up. And he got a license too, 1:57:18.960 --> 1:57:22.080 He definitely got his license. He been trying to trying 1:57:22.120 --> 1:57:23.800 to take the range out, like yo, let me just 1:57:23.880 --> 1:57:29.000 go to the sore like And it's funny when you're 1:57:29.040 --> 1:57:32.120 not a parent until you a parent and me going 1:57:32.160 --> 1:57:34.600 through this whole car situation with him, and maybe I'm true. 1:57:36.080 --> 1:57:40.160 No, I've been wanting to buy I've been wanting to 1:57:40.240 --> 1:57:40.760 buy my car. 1:57:40.840 --> 1:57:41.920 I've been wanting to buy my car. 1:57:42.040 --> 1:57:43.440 But you know, as a parent, I want to make 1:57:43.480 --> 1:57:45.520 sure that he's safe while he's driving something like that. 1:57:45.600 --> 1:57:47.480 Bro, you gotta driving me for like a month, like yo, 1:57:47.520 --> 1:57:51.560 you gotta show me that ill behind the wheel before. 1:57:51.680 --> 1:57:53.400 I buy you this vehicle and ship like that, And 1:57:53.600 --> 1:57:56.000 maybe thinking to myself, maybe I'm I'm doing too much. 1:57:56.160 --> 1:57:58.280 I see other parents buying their kids cars. 1:57:58.120 --> 1:57:59.280 And things like that, but I'm just like you. 1:57:59.800 --> 1:58:01.840 I would never know I would be that parent to 1:58:01.920 --> 1:58:03.960 be like that to my son, you know what I mean. 1:58:04.080 --> 1:58:06.000 But ship, I love him to death and ship like that. 1:58:06.120 --> 1:58:08.560 But I thank you for this opportunity to be here shouting. 1:58:12.880 --> 1:58:14.360 I want to shout out. 1:58:16.920 --> 1:58:20.800 I want to shout out sunny d body transport whatever 1:58:20.960 --> 1:58:21.480 in Miami. 1:58:21.520 --> 1:58:23.400 They make sure that I'm protected and I get whole 1:58:23.480 --> 1:58:26.080 safely to and from your someone shout out the whole 1:58:26.120 --> 1:58:27.320 Miami and ship like that, y'all. 1:58:27.480 --> 1:58:29.320 You know I love them definitely. Is my birthday weekend. 1:58:29.360 --> 1:58:31.000 We're all going up, and we're going up and I'm 1:58:31.000 --> 1:58:32.360 hanging out with you. I'm hanging out, We're gonna go. 1:58:32.440 --> 1:58:34.120 I'm hanging out with you and I'm celebrating my twenty 1:58:34.160 --> 1:58:35.800 fifth anniversary of my first album. 1:58:36.280 --> 1:58:42.560 I'm celebrating with you. That means that he was probably together. Yes, 1:58:42.800 --> 1:58:47.320 it's amazing. TV cam came whatever when who listened to me? 1:58:47.440 --> 1:58:50.240 Whenever, whenever, whenever, I'll be going whenever I go through 1:58:50.280 --> 1:58:52.200 my ship and ship like that. Sometimes I sit back 1:58:52.240 --> 1:58:53.040 at home and I'll be like. 1:58:54.440 --> 1:58:58.240 Nigga, who is really mad about like bro, Like like 1:59:00.360 --> 1:59:02.000 straighten up your face. I can come out like I 1:59:02.080 --> 1:59:04.360 got a problem of being grossy and I got to 1:59:04.360 --> 1:59:06.160 sit back like Nigga, you you. 1:59:07.360 --> 1:59:10.480 Pretty good for yourself, Like you really know where you're from, bro, 1:59:10.640 --> 1:59:11.240 Like the ship. 1:59:11.120 --> 1:59:13.880 That you beat right here, like we're all champions. 1:59:13.480 --> 1:59:16.000 Out here, like we've all been a helified adversity and 1:59:16.080 --> 1:59:18.080 were coming out on top. Right now, you do like 1:59:18.160 --> 1:59:19.960 every day, every day ain't gonna be our best you 1:59:20.080 --> 1:59:22.360 as long as we strive to be better than the 1:59:22.400 --> 1:59:23.760 next ding And she's like that, I always got a 1:59:23.760 --> 1:59:25.400 conscious effort in my mind to be better. Like I 1:59:25.480 --> 1:59:28.640 have this thing like I've been giving back so much 1:59:28.680 --> 1:59:29.240 because I got to. 1:59:29.240 --> 1:59:29.640 Take a lot. 1:59:29.720 --> 1:59:31.200 So before I go, I want to know that I 1:59:31.280 --> 1:59:31.960 gave more than. 1:59:33.440 --> 1:59:36.560 Jamie. I need I need to shot for that. What's 1:59:36.640 --> 1:59:43.200 yet the first that was Hardy got a job. 1:59:43.280 --> 1:59:58.280 First, shouts the hot talents smoke shot. 2:00:00.760 --> 2:00:04.640 So this is pretty much the last question. But we've 2:00:04.640 --> 2:00:05.560 been there next to the last. 2:00:05.760 --> 2:00:08.040 So what would it take for us to get a 2:00:08.160 --> 2:00:12.440 full fledged dipset album right now? What would it take? 2:00:13.560 --> 2:00:14.680 I ain't gonna I ain't gonna lie. 2:00:14.720 --> 2:00:17.520 From my perspective, if if, if, if it was a 2:00:17.560 --> 2:00:21.160 perfect world and I can have things my way, it 2:00:21.200 --> 2:00:23.480 would take us. It would it would for me, It 2:00:23.560 --> 2:00:24.920 just how I see it, and I know that it 2:00:24.960 --> 2:00:26.840 would be in my eyes it would turn into a 2:00:26.880 --> 2:00:29.360 hell of a success. It would take us partnership, partnering 2:00:29.480 --> 2:00:31.240 up with the right person, whether it be it labeled, 2:00:31.280 --> 2:00:33.560 someone who has vested interest to see us win, we 2:00:33.680 --> 2:00:36.040 dig and once we have a sound blueprint of that. 2:00:36.280 --> 2:00:37.920 And I have to say that it's about the money. 2:00:38.160 --> 2:00:41.160 But money makes this ship move when it comes to 2:00:41.240 --> 2:00:43.360 doing music, and it's a certain esthetic that we want 2:00:43.400 --> 2:00:45.200 to see and it's a certain type of stund that 2:00:45.240 --> 2:00:45.880 people want to hear. 2:00:46.120 --> 2:00:47.760 And we ain't trying to cheat the people and things 2:00:47.840 --> 2:00:48.280 like that, you know. 2:00:48.320 --> 2:00:50.040 And I think a lot of that is what's been 2:00:50.080 --> 2:00:52.280 going on in the past years of us doing these 2:00:52.320 --> 2:00:54.680 Diplomats installments and things like that, because we're so used 2:00:54.720 --> 2:00:56.600 to having this whole independent layout. 2:00:56.760 --> 2:00:59.000 But I think that we put so much work in 2:00:59.040 --> 2:00:59.560 and things like that. 2:00:59.600 --> 2:01:02.720 That people deserve a real Diplomat album and that's not 2:01:02.760 --> 2:01:04.840 gonna happen until we have a sound partner that could 2:01:05.160 --> 2:01:08.000 put up the bill to make the different documentary way 2:01:08.040 --> 2:01:09.560 that needs to be seen and ship like that, you 2:01:09.560 --> 2:01:09.960 know what I mean. 2:01:10.360 --> 2:01:10.920 And that's just that. 2:01:11.160 --> 2:01:14.760 Fan my Diplomat album. I want y'all in the studio together. 2:01:14.960 --> 2:01:17.000 Now we're going to I've been. 2:01:17.040 --> 2:01:17.280 I've been. 2:01:17.360 --> 2:01:20.160 I've been for like the past seven years. 2:01:20.200 --> 2:01:22.160 I've been having this plan of how to get this 2:01:22.320 --> 2:01:25.680 Diplomat album done and ship. I want ship like that, 2:01:25.840 --> 2:01:28.560 like you did, like for everybody together wherever we go, 2:01:28.720 --> 2:01:31.200 and ship like that, you dig and really encompass the 2:01:31.280 --> 2:01:32.120 sound of who we are. 2:01:32.160 --> 2:01:33.640 It's always been a universal sound. 2:01:33.920 --> 2:01:35.880 And the way the music is moving now, the way 2:01:35.880 --> 2:01:37.560 we can merge the music with some of the younger 2:01:37.640 --> 2:01:40.360 are becoming artists of some of the most powerful artists. 2:01:40.240 --> 2:01:41.040 Going on, and shit like that. 2:01:41.320 --> 2:01:44.000 A lot of these artists that are real fans of 2:01:44.200 --> 2:01:47.400 what we've done and as diplomats and ship like that. 2:01:47.560 --> 2:01:49.280 Will say, I speak to a lot of them all 2:01:49.320 --> 2:01:50.520 the time, and shit like that, and I think that 2:01:50.640 --> 2:01:52.840 if we mix all this music together and really get 2:01:52.920 --> 2:01:55.800 these people a real dope diplomat album and ship like 2:01:55.840 --> 2:01:59.320 that of both what they been missing and everything that 2:02:00.480 --> 2:02:02.760 they listen to right now, ship like that but on 2:02:02.880 --> 2:02:05.800 the highest level of making music, which we can't do. 2:02:05.920 --> 2:02:07.040 And ship like that, you know what I mean? 2:02:07.640 --> 2:02:08.040 You know what I mean? 2:02:08.080 --> 2:02:11.600 Like really like really like like the stompers out here, 2:02:11.680 --> 2:02:13.080 like the steps. 2:02:13.920 --> 2:02:16.880 I was raised on this set, look like there's a 2:02:17.040 --> 2:02:19.520 rapper I feel abatic, Like who your favorite? 2:02:26.000 --> 2:02:28.240 I think with no shade, I think, I think, I 2:02:28.320 --> 2:02:30.880 think we deserve it. You did like like this has 2:02:30.920 --> 2:02:32.800 been We've been through a whole lot of ups and 2:02:32.880 --> 2:02:34.320 downs and things like that. But I don't think that 2:02:34.400 --> 2:02:36.360 we really after our first album. I don't think that 2:02:36.400 --> 2:02:38.640 we as a whole, we never really got a chance 2:02:38.720 --> 2:02:42.280 to really go go like that. 2:02:42.360 --> 2:02:43.560 We all started getting so much. 2:02:43.520 --> 2:02:47.040 Money at that time. Like you people forget, forget these is. 2:02:47.320 --> 2:02:50.000 We're all separate entities that start going platinum on ourselves 2:02:50.040 --> 2:02:50.520 and together. 2:02:50.960 --> 2:02:54.320 You heard like like it wasn't just Cam breaking in 2:02:54.400 --> 2:02:57.600 the door anymore, it's all of us raking into it, 2:02:59.200 --> 2:03:02.839 you know what I mean. And money, money clouds a situation. 2:03:03.080 --> 2:03:04.920 I mean, if I don't know if you got any money, 2:03:04.920 --> 2:03:06.680 if you ever really got some money, if you really 2:03:06.720 --> 2:03:08.440 got some money and you're doing it with you know 2:03:08.520 --> 2:03:11.440 how it goes clouds a situation, and it really ja'es you, 2:03:11.560 --> 2:03:13.520 especially at a young age when you don't have no guidance. 2:03:13.560 --> 2:03:15.080 And that was one of the things that we really 2:03:15.160 --> 2:03:16.720 missed as we was coming up. Not to say that 2:03:17.800 --> 2:03:20.880 whatever happened happened, but we didn't never have no Oh Jesus, 2:03:21.080 --> 2:03:21.720 you know how it was. 2:03:21.800 --> 2:03:23.880 We were just doing your trial and error. 2:03:24.120 --> 2:03:26.200 I learned everything as we went, as we went alone 2:03:26.240 --> 2:03:26.720 and ship. 2:03:26.560 --> 2:03:28.520 Like You're in Cam's relationship with Mimmy and me and 2:03:28.720 --> 2:03:30.880 Capone a lot. You know what I'm saying, Like you 2:03:31.000 --> 2:03:34.520 be brothers, but it's just like we have opinions on 2:03:34.640 --> 2:03:36.280 our brothers. Because you and my brother, I still have 2:03:36.280 --> 2:03:38.800 an opinion against you. You know what I'm saying for you, 2:03:39.520 --> 2:03:41.360 Let me ask you a question. When you see them 2:03:42.240 --> 2:03:45.400 going through whatever they're going through, what is your opinion 2:03:45.480 --> 2:03:45.640 on it? 2:03:47.120 --> 2:03:50.240 My opinion, I really think, motherfucking they need to call 2:03:50.320 --> 2:03:51.760 each other and just holler each other. 2:03:52.040 --> 2:03:54.920 It's funny, get the mic on own hey, they just 2:03:55.040 --> 2:03:56.920 call each other and holler at each other on their 2:03:56.960 --> 2:03:58.840 own time. You know what I'm saying Because a lot 2:03:58.840 --> 2:04:00.800 of people over here say ship. A lot of people 2:04:00.880 --> 2:04:03.440 over here say ship. I think they just need to 2:04:03.560 --> 2:04:05.320 go pick up and beat me. 2:04:07.360 --> 2:04:09.440 Let me see Zeek the type of nigga be Like 2:04:09.520 --> 2:04:12.080 I called yo, this nigga get me. I go crazy, 2:04:12.160 --> 2:04:18.040 Like yeah, right here with him right now? What he 2:04:18.200 --> 2:04:21.200 said exactly what he said, like you don't he don't, 2:04:21.400 --> 2:04:21.920 he don't. 2:04:21.960 --> 2:04:23.480 Have no sides in this whole situation. 2:04:24.000 --> 2:04:26.040 I can tell you that was one of the most 2:04:26.080 --> 2:04:29.200 beautiful things that we have when it comes to see 2:04:30.480 --> 2:04:34.840 both of you, denullinator between all of us, he never 2:04:34.920 --> 2:04:37.440 picked a side and he has his own right suit 2:04:37.520 --> 2:04:41.480 all of us to you like like you heard, like 2:04:41.680 --> 2:04:44.000 you heard, like Zeke, you imagine what he got to 2:04:44.040 --> 2:04:44.920 go through in the midst. 2:04:44.760 --> 2:04:47.960 Of everybody know, I'm thinking about him, you know what 2:04:48.000 --> 2:04:48.320 I mean? 2:04:48.520 --> 2:04:51.760 Like he never really got his full opportunity to reap 2:04:51.920 --> 2:04:54.240 all the benefits that we got to because he was 2:04:54.320 --> 2:04:55.960 locked up at the time when we was at the 2:04:56.000 --> 2:04:57.040 height of our career and. 2:04:57.040 --> 2:04:57.520 Ship like that. 2:04:57.920 --> 2:05:00.040 So when we was getting millions of dollars. 2:04:59.760 --> 2:05:02.000 In it like that and going crazy and ship like that, 2:05:02.120 --> 2:05:04.720 he came in until end of it and he missed everything. 2:05:04.800 --> 2:05:07.200 So at that point, it's like, imagine what you know 2:05:07.200 --> 2:05:08.920 what I mean, But this is my boy right here. 2:05:08.960 --> 2:05:10.720 We're back at it. 2:05:12.360 --> 2:05:16.840 I'm talkin. I think. 2:05:17.160 --> 2:05:21.720 I think people really don't understand the points of all 2:05:21.760 --> 2:05:24.160 of y'all being together, Like you know, you know you 2:05:24.240 --> 2:05:26.960 came in rapping lately late late in the game, but 2:05:27.480 --> 2:05:29.200 people don't understand like the ship. 2:05:29.120 --> 2:05:33.040 Talking, the ada lives the background of you, Zeic. 2:05:33.040 --> 2:05:35.480 Like niggas don't well me as a fan, I know 2:05:35.600 --> 2:05:38.120 how important is I wanted to hear all that like 2:05:38.320 --> 2:05:41.080 all of that count after the disrecord, you talking ship you, 2:05:41.160 --> 2:05:44.120 we like that's dipset. It ain't just cam and it 2:05:44.160 --> 2:05:48.240 ain't just it ain't just you and just was just us. 2:05:48.920 --> 2:05:52.040 You say that no matter, And we got the right 2:05:52.120 --> 2:05:56.200 to say that, all of us just saying about you, nigga. 2:05:57.640 --> 2:05:58.920 We all have the right to say that. 2:05:59.080 --> 2:06:01.520 We always say that, all of us, even Joel's and 2:06:01.520 --> 2:06:03.480 ship like that you did whenever we in the midst 2:06:03.480 --> 2:06:07.080 of whatever, like Dip said, is never about one man, 2:06:07.760 --> 2:06:10.600 it was about all of us. We made that thing 2:06:10.760 --> 2:06:13.080 move as a whole like that, You know what I mean? 2:06:13.200 --> 2:06:14.960 So shouts a Jewel Santana. 2:06:15.720 --> 2:06:18.880 He got some more music. You listen to me, listen 2:06:18.920 --> 2:06:21.200 to me. I listen to me. I fight with Juel's 2:06:21.240 --> 2:06:21.640 every day. 2:06:21.680 --> 2:06:23.400 But I do know he got a whole album that 2:06:23.520 --> 2:06:25.280 he got done, and I'm talking about he got all 2:06:25.360 --> 2:06:26.080 the steppers on it. 2:06:26.160 --> 2:06:27.960 I mean studio. I text him. 2:06:28.040 --> 2:06:31.680 He's in a text him like you. 2:06:31.920 --> 2:06:36.480 I can't I can't like it. 2:06:36.720 --> 2:06:38.120 I do know that he was in the midst of 2:06:38.160 --> 2:06:41.280 a d I do know he was in the mist 2:06:41.320 --> 2:06:42.880 of a deal and he was finishing up. But he 2:06:43.000 --> 2:06:45.640 definitely has some music. But I feel like you feel 2:06:45.680 --> 2:06:47.839 for so many years and ship like that. But Jewel's 2:06:48.160 --> 2:06:50.800 your favorite rapper, always my favorite rapper. That boy still 2:06:50.840 --> 2:06:51.120 can go. 2:06:51.720 --> 2:06:54.480 Rap up all the time of all the time. 2:06:54.720 --> 2:06:56.680 I got so many rappers that meant so much to 2:06:56.760 --> 2:06:57.680 me and ship like that you did. 2:06:57.960 --> 2:06:59.680 Look, let me say it before you. I can't really 2:06:59.800 --> 2:07:02.360 just won't say one. But it's like all encompass one 2:07:02.400 --> 2:07:02.920 that would. 2:07:02.760 --> 2:07:08.200 Be incident right listen, Like it's a lot of rappers 2:07:08.520 --> 2:07:11.360 that influenced me or I hear their music and make 2:07:11.440 --> 2:07:12.760 me want to do this and make me want to. 2:07:13.040 --> 2:07:18.880 But like you overall, like you my favorite rapper or 2:07:18.920 --> 2:07:20.840 the fact of your whole style. 2:07:21.040 --> 2:07:24.000 It wasn't like just the rat it was the style, 2:07:24.160 --> 2:07:27.200 it was the ship talk, and it was the mean 2:07:27.320 --> 2:07:30.160 of the attitude overall. So when I'm asking you that, 2:07:30.360 --> 2:07:32.320 like it's a bunch of rappers, like I know jay 2:07:32.360 --> 2:07:36.360 Z is one of the greatest, Like, but you my 2:07:36.520 --> 2:07:39.080 favorite rapper because of everything in the hole. 2:07:39.160 --> 2:07:41.680 So I want to know, like who influenced you as 2:07:41.760 --> 2:07:43.600 a whole. And I hear you saying y'all keep twenty 2:07:43.680 --> 2:07:46.000 in the pocket like change, I'm like. 2:07:46.360 --> 2:07:55.320 He's still rocking. Car Roll he's still like it's like 2:07:55.640 --> 2:07:57.760 fly so so like that. 2:07:57.880 --> 2:08:01.000 Who influenced me was the hustle, was in Harlem and 2:08:01.080 --> 2:08:04.040 in the Bronx. That's who really influenced me, George. It 2:08:04.160 --> 2:08:06.760 wasn't not boys George. I mean, boy George is one 2:08:06.800 --> 2:08:09.560 of them, but directly it was like THEMN type of 2:08:09.600 --> 2:08:11.320 cats in my hood. It was like first and then 2:08:11.400 --> 2:08:13.440 it was like Pop on one hundred thirteenth Street, and 2:08:13.520 --> 2:08:14.960 then it was like that Big Day. 2:08:15.200 --> 2:08:16.000 It was like Big Dave. 2:08:16.040 --> 2:08:17.920 I don't know if you're familiar with Big Dave, Big 2:08:18.080 --> 2:08:21.320 Dave l cool J's one of his covers. 2:08:21.360 --> 2:08:22.840 He got Big Days Mercedes bands. 2:08:22.880 --> 2:08:25.240 It was it was a black Mercedes bands like this, 2:08:25.320 --> 2:08:26.840 how like, this is the type of. 2:08:26.840 --> 2:08:29.400 Individuals that we grew up wanted to be like, Like 2:08:29.520 --> 2:08:30.400 my man DDA that. 2:08:30.840 --> 2:08:32.879 Took us to the tunnel when we was like fifteen 2:08:33.000 --> 2:08:35.200 sixteen and shit like this, and these niggas all going 2:08:35.240 --> 2:08:38.120 to the tunnel were drug money and they skipping line 2:08:38.120 --> 2:08:39.960 and getting on express line and shit like that. Like 2:08:40.320 --> 2:08:43.000 these are the people that were really shaped who I 2:08:43.080 --> 2:08:44.720 wanted to be like and shit like that. And then 2:08:44.800 --> 2:08:46.440 when it came to the music and shit like that, 2:08:46.560 --> 2:08:48.560 that the energy that I was getting. It was like, 2:08:48.920 --> 2:08:52.280 so Snoop was like one of the first people that 2:08:53.200 --> 2:08:57.800 I really like Snoop and and NAS like they really 2:08:57.880 --> 2:09:00.080 like Snoop because Snoop. 2:08:59.800 --> 2:09:02.760 Came that ships together, man, Snoop is deep. 2:09:03.200 --> 2:09:06.080 When deep Cover came out and this nigga came and 2:09:06.160 --> 2:09:08.240 this nigga came out and deep covering the way you 2:09:08.320 --> 2:09:11.240 started rapping. I was like, what the fuck is going on? 2:09:11.480 --> 2:09:13.280 And then he can't and then he came back with 2:09:13.400 --> 2:09:16.240 the braids. I'm like, no, this nigga is cold, Like 2:09:16.400 --> 2:09:19.600 who is this nigga you heard? And then then yeah, 2:09:19.640 --> 2:09:22.080 Snoop was That's why I got braids and then now 2:09:22.200 --> 2:09:24.880 and then NAS was like yo, Nas So in high 2:09:24.920 --> 2:09:26.760 school was me and Zeke like when he did the 2:09:26.800 --> 2:09:28.520 barbecue and ship like that when he when he did 2:09:28.600 --> 2:09:30.640 that barbecue, it was like, Yo, who the fuck is this? 2:09:31.520 --> 2:09:33.520 Why is he talking about what we doing? 2:09:33.640 --> 2:09:35.200 Like this is like you did like they were like, 2:09:35.400 --> 2:09:37.200 so it was like then it started then like and 2:09:37.280 --> 2:09:40.520 then Pock this embodied the fly cocky gang banging ship 2:09:40.720 --> 2:09:43.320 like Snoop was gang banging, but Pock me that ship 2:09:43.400 --> 2:09:48.120 feel like I just like nigga what like Yo, Bro 2:09:48.320 --> 2:09:50.760 Pop like I got into my first fight with Pop 2:09:50.880 --> 2:09:55.080 like Yo, I never heard went upstairs, listened to poking 2:09:55.200 --> 2:09:58.200 mc bree. I gotta get mons, you gotta get yours. 2:09:58.600 --> 2:10:01.040 I gotta get mo guy and one thing I stand 2:10:01.120 --> 2:10:03.360 to have my first fight off that as a teenager, 2:10:03.520 --> 2:10:06.080 like Yo type of ship Pak was doing to me, 2:10:06.120 --> 2:10:06.720 and ship like that. 2:10:06.840 --> 2:10:09.440 Like really like oh my god, like Yo. And then 2:10:09.680 --> 2:10:12.480 and then it was like and then it was like Jay. 2:10:12.520 --> 2:10:15.400 You know, it was like Jake because the niggas started 2:10:15.560 --> 2:10:17.920 figuring out how to hustle and make some money, and 2:10:18.040 --> 2:10:21.080 that ship Jay started talking about was like, oh no, 2:10:21.160 --> 2:10:23.640 these niggas is getting this money. And then there was 2:10:23.720 --> 2:10:25.960 this gang banging and getting money. And then I'm dealing 2:10:26.000 --> 2:10:28.280 with niggas that was gang banging and getting real money. 2:10:28.480 --> 2:10:30.240 LL beat my man light and shit like that. Like 2:10:30.320 --> 2:10:32.800 it was like so many so I really can't put 2:10:32.840 --> 2:10:36.280 my hands on one rapper, but the most influenced you 2:10:36.400 --> 2:10:39.040 that probably would say it would be like Pop because 2:10:39.080 --> 2:10:42.040 I was so rebellious and I wanted to be like pocketing. 2:10:42.080 --> 2:10:44.360 Then Big he a big chapter in my life also 2:10:44.440 --> 2:10:46.520 because he was kicking all that New York shit and 2:10:46.560 --> 2:10:48.120 shit like that. Like, and then he was teaching you 2:10:48.160 --> 2:10:49.760 about how to kick it to the bitches and shit 2:10:49.840 --> 2:10:51.360 like that. Was one thing I learned from Big was 2:10:51.440 --> 2:10:53.640 like a lot of a lot of game how to 2:10:54.000 --> 2:10:55.880 kick it to the bitches, Like Big had a lot 2:10:55.960 --> 2:10:57.600 of game for the bitches and ship like that. 2:10:57.920 --> 2:10:59.480 This early skate key err and sit like that. 2:10:59.520 --> 2:11:01.560 I don't know if niggas know about skakey skake keys 2:11:01.600 --> 2:11:05.360 like ninety three, ninety four kid on Allenton, but yeah, 2:11:05.400 --> 2:11:07.040 but I mean I'm saying it was on Allenton and 2:11:07.120 --> 2:11:07.560 shit like that. 2:11:07.640 --> 2:11:08.880 And this is this one. 2:11:09.000 --> 2:11:11.680 Niggas was going to the rake the drink and New Jersey. 2:11:11.760 --> 2:11:13.440 So the hustlers and shit like that would go to 2:11:13.520 --> 2:11:15.400 the rink in New Jersey. The rinking New Jersey was 2:11:15.440 --> 2:11:17.200 over at two. Niggas would feed from the rink all 2:11:17.200 --> 2:11:19.360 the way back to the ska key And meanwhile we 2:11:19.520 --> 2:11:22.360 fourteen at fifteen saving up crack when Hey getting cabs 2:11:22.400 --> 2:11:24.560 on whle you damn. This was one thing Cam and 2:11:24.840 --> 2:11:27.240 was advanced that Cam and Honey six God bless Howey 2:11:27.240 --> 2:11:29.840 six shit you know Honey, everybody know who study see 2:11:30.280 --> 2:11:31.480 Honey was super advanced. 2:11:31.520 --> 2:11:32.480 Honey, Honey and Cam. 2:11:32.600 --> 2:11:34.280 These niggas was in the Kine Club when they was 2:11:34.400 --> 2:11:37.240 thirteen fourteen, like this what Harlem was all about. So 2:11:37.400 --> 2:11:40.040 when you'd be like, our influenced, our influence, this was 2:11:40.120 --> 2:11:42.040 really everything that was going on in the street and 2:11:42.080 --> 2:11:44.360 shit like that. And then starting to watch these rappers 2:11:44.400 --> 2:11:46.120 and shit like that. This gave us so much energy 2:11:46.160 --> 2:11:47.960 about what we wanted to be like and who we 2:11:48.040 --> 2:11:50.440 wanted to be like and shit like that. But Jay 2:11:50.560 --> 2:11:55.480 and Park and really really coming up. And then I 2:11:55.600 --> 2:12:00.640 remember Wu Tang Well, I remember when Rake put out 2:12:00.640 --> 2:12:03.440 the Purple tape. And this is when it's when Cam 2:12:03.640 --> 2:12:05.760 was living with me in five AH and when we 2:12:05.880 --> 2:12:08.560 got that purple tape, we put that CD in God 2:12:08.640 --> 2:12:10.520 bless my grandmother when she passed away. You put that 2:12:10.600 --> 2:12:13.480 CD in the little ship we had in a little 2:12:13.560 --> 2:12:16.520 by the kitchen. That purple tape. When I tell you, 2:12:16.640 --> 2:12:19.280 that purple tape played for the whole summer and nobody 2:12:19.520 --> 2:12:20.600 touched that radio. 2:12:22.200 --> 2:12:23.960 You hear what I'm saying. It played for the. 2:12:24.080 --> 2:12:28.360 Whole summer on repeat. Nobody touched the radio. That Purple 2:12:28.640 --> 2:12:32.400 Pact nigga her like that. Shit went crazy and then 2:12:32.480 --> 2:12:34.960 them niggas did videos in the hallm I break this 2:12:35.040 --> 2:12:36.440 whole table, Like yo, bro, when. 2:12:36.360 --> 2:12:39.520 Them niggas was doing ice treaming all that shit, the 2:12:39.640 --> 2:12:42.280 wol table was coming through like you felt like. 2:12:42.320 --> 2:12:44.000 You felt like it was a part of something like Yo, 2:12:44.040 --> 2:12:45.800 them niggas is up the block and then they coming 2:12:45.880 --> 2:12:48.040 through them vib Man dust from the projects and they 2:12:48.080 --> 2:12:50.600 come through vin Mad Dust from one hund fortieth sh 2:12:50.840 --> 2:12:53.400 like Yo, this but this is all hip hop, but it's. 2:12:53.320 --> 2:12:54.120 Part the street shit. 2:12:54.440 --> 2:12:57.200 So you know how we feeling like it's like you're digging. 2:12:57.240 --> 2:12:58.880 This is all in Harlem and this is what I mean. 2:12:59.000 --> 2:13:01.560 Like the streets really infected us at a young age 2:13:01.600 --> 2:13:04.160 and shit like that, Like we all been outside me 2:13:04.440 --> 2:13:06.440 z Cam, all of us that came up, we've really 2:13:06.480 --> 2:13:09.120 been outside any streets going to clubs, buggings. It's like 2:13:09.440 --> 2:13:12.040 fourteen to fifteen, trying to get in clubs, trying to 2:13:12.080 --> 2:13:14.400 get money, trying to get fresh, trying to be grown, 2:13:14.520 --> 2:13:16.840 like like this is where we embody and shit like that. 2:13:16.960 --> 2:13:18.520 Like and I'm just ranting right. 2:13:18.440 --> 2:13:19.120 Now and shit like that. 2:13:19.240 --> 2:13:21.960 But how important that was to the music that I do. 2:13:22.480 --> 2:13:25.200 On top of the rappers that influenced me, well, the 2:13:25.280 --> 2:13:27.960 streets was the biggest influence that I had because at 2:13:28.000 --> 2:13:31.680 that time we got to witness some hella five shit 2:13:32.560 --> 2:13:33.080 six five? 2:13:37.080 --> 2:13:37.920 What was a choice? 2:13:38.880 --> 2:13:39.280 It said? 2:13:39.480 --> 2:13:41.680 Like it gives different quotes from rappers that I guess 2:13:41.680 --> 2:13:45.400 they must ask questions or say, you said, you said 2:13:45.560 --> 2:13:49.480 one of your biggest regress is not believing in yourself earlier, 2:13:50.840 --> 2:13:51.720 like you know earlier. 2:13:51.840 --> 2:13:54.120 So did you ever see yourself. 2:13:55.360 --> 2:13:58.680 Being where you're at right now, like as a rapper 2:13:58.920 --> 2:14:00.520 or did you always kind of thing like y'a, I'm 2:14:00.520 --> 2:14:01.400 gonna support. 2:14:01.160 --> 2:14:01.680 My man and. 2:14:03.280 --> 2:14:05.240 I like, so, I remember I used to have this 2:14:05.320 --> 2:14:07.280 saying and shit like that that I wasn't famous, but 2:14:07.840 --> 2:14:09.800 all the famous people gonna know me, and then I'm 2:14:09.840 --> 2:14:11.560 just like, I'm not famous for now all the famous 2:14:11.600 --> 2:14:15.040 people know me. Like I always knew that my life 2:14:15.160 --> 2:14:17.160 was going to take a role that was going to 2:14:17.240 --> 2:14:19.560 be different from anybody else, and I was going to 2:14:19.600 --> 2:14:22.080 be very influential. I always felt that from a young age, 2:14:22.080 --> 2:14:23.880 for when my mama instilled that in me and shit 2:14:23.960 --> 2:14:24.080 like that. 2:14:24.360 --> 2:14:25.320 I never knew that it. 2:14:25.280 --> 2:14:28.240 Would be through rap music and I never threw it 2:14:28.280 --> 2:14:32.920 would be the opportunity. But I'm real about I've always 2:14:32.920 --> 2:14:36.640 been about energy since younger and I always see opportunities. 2:14:36.040 --> 2:14:37.760 Before they come. And when. 2:14:39.080 --> 2:14:44.080 I heard Kim and bloodshed and may start to rap. 2:14:44.240 --> 2:14:47.080 When we was like fifteen, when Kim moved to the 2:14:47.160 --> 2:14:49.920 East Side and his cousin RF bluodshit, I used to 2:14:49.920 --> 2:14:51.960 pay him callers to do freestyle and not to say 2:14:51.960 --> 2:14:53.280 it like that, nigga, We ain't had no money, but 2:14:53.400 --> 2:14:55.240 this was the thing that I got a call off. 2:14:55.280 --> 2:14:57.280 You getting sixteen and shit like that. You dig Like 2:14:57.680 --> 2:14:59.920 when I started hearing all these niggas was doing it 2:15:00.000 --> 2:15:02.160 and at that young age, and they were doing children 2:15:02.240 --> 2:15:04.440 in the corner and they was being real serious, and 2:15:04.480 --> 2:15:07.680 then they started going into her McGruff and the Big 2:15:07.960 --> 2:15:09.000 l and all that type of ship. 2:15:09.040 --> 2:15:12.520 I was like, I gotta stay close to these days. 2:15:15.400 --> 2:15:17.560 Mama's like like, oh, Mama's. 2:15:17.160 --> 2:15:20.640 Like with a little bit that doors that were opening 2:15:20.680 --> 2:15:22.320 when they were younger and ship like that, and me 2:15:22.480 --> 2:15:24.480 being around to be and seeing it be in the game, 2:15:24.560 --> 2:15:27.320 I was like, I need to be a part of 2:15:27.400 --> 2:15:30.000 this ship, like I I gotta stay close because this 2:15:30.160 --> 2:15:31.360 is where I need. 2:15:31.360 --> 2:15:35.120 To be this I can do this. And I didn't 2:15:35.120 --> 2:15:37.480 even know how to rap at the time. You see 2:15:37.480 --> 2:15:38.480 the vision and I knew. 2:15:38.320 --> 2:15:40.280 Who I was, like, Nigga, I could do this ship 2:15:40.640 --> 2:15:41.320 without rapping. 2:15:41.400 --> 2:15:43.440 I just need these people need to know who I am. 2:15:43.520 --> 2:15:45.280 They gonna feel me. You're hurting it. 2:15:45.640 --> 2:15:48.480 I just knew that from very beginners, before we even 2:15:48.520 --> 2:15:51.760 had opportunities, and then as opportunities start getting close, I 2:15:51.880 --> 2:16:01.040 knew that Cam was a precious commodity, and whether he 2:16:01.120 --> 2:16:03.880 knew it or not, I took it upon myself to. 2:16:03.960 --> 2:16:07.680 Do everything I could to help that situation. 2:16:08.040 --> 2:16:08.320 You did. 2:16:08.920 --> 2:16:09.600 Now we got one. 2:16:09.680 --> 2:16:10.360 We are out of here. 2:16:10.600 --> 2:16:12.200 We just got to make sure that we keep him 2:16:12.240 --> 2:16:14.320 safe and everything is gonna be okay, and that was 2:16:14.360 --> 2:16:15.080 always my plan. 2:16:15.400 --> 2:16:18.880 You're heard it. Hold on, I gotta get it out. 2:16:19.400 --> 2:16:22.080 Hold it, hold it, I gotta call it. Hold it. 2:16:23.360 --> 2:16:26.280 Have you been invited on CAM show yet? No? I haven't. 2:16:26.360 --> 2:16:28.560 I haven't been invited on IT shows dope, So I can't. 2:16:28.680 --> 2:16:30.000 I can't. I can't lie you. 2:16:30.080 --> 2:16:32.640 They know them niggas do no sports, and they do 2:16:32.720 --> 2:16:35.400 no basketball and shit like that. And what they're doing 2:16:35.560 --> 2:16:37.400 is no different from what we do on the block 2:16:37.480 --> 2:16:39.480 and ship like that. And that's why I got so 2:16:39.680 --> 2:16:41.680 dope because that's the same band so that niggas have 2:16:41.760 --> 2:16:45.160 about sports, right, the bodegga right on the stoop in 2:16:45.240 --> 2:16:47.760 the same language, the same way niggas snapping in the 2:16:47.800 --> 2:16:50.680 midst like it's just you did. But they're real serious 2:16:50.720 --> 2:16:52.920 about the points. They points and angles when it comes 2:16:52.959 --> 2:16:55.040 to sports. In these players they know they ship and 2:16:55.080 --> 2:16:55.520 ship like that. 2:16:55.600 --> 2:16:56.160 So it's dope. 2:16:56.360 --> 2:16:58.160 I do believe that they're going to get a super 2:16:58.280 --> 2:17:01.280 super dope big check off of hope. So yeah, yeah, 2:17:02.240 --> 2:17:04.400 it's getting is getting in know the writers deserved. 2:17:04.760 --> 2:17:07.400 I mean, this is where this is where it's going, 2:17:08.000 --> 2:17:11.640 is we want our news from us, We want our 2:17:12.360 --> 2:17:13.640 whatever we get, we want. 2:17:13.520 --> 2:17:17.280 To it should always come from the coach. Like our culture. 2:17:17.520 --> 2:17:20.040 Like God bless Skip baylists. We love them, but I 2:17:20.120 --> 2:17:22.280 fuck that. If I got to pick, I'm going camp, 2:17:23.000 --> 2:17:26.879 I'm going, I'm going. I'm supporting Killer, I'm supporting Mace. 2:17:27.600 --> 2:17:29.040 I don't know Skip Bailists, I don't know. 2:17:29.440 --> 2:17:31.840 All I just know is and then Camen got me 2:17:31.879 --> 2:17:37.400 thinking he racist now because they want the black he 2:17:37.480 --> 2:17:41.039 wanted you coach racist? 2:17:41.120 --> 2:17:43.200 Thinking of racist. I tell people this all the time. 2:17:43.320 --> 2:17:44.800 Hip hop is its own race. 2:17:45.240 --> 2:17:48.760 I always say that. I always say that it's a race. 2:17:49.640 --> 2:17:50.920 We've got our own dialects. 2:17:51.120 --> 2:17:54.280 It's a certain language that we got that everybody knows unanimously, 2:17:54.400 --> 2:17:56.720 and it'd be different dialects. So if you come down 2:17:56.760 --> 2:17:58.880 here to Miami, what they say might be different from 2:17:58.879 --> 2:17:59.160 what they. 2:17:59.080 --> 2:17:59.680 Say in Chicago. 2:17:59.760 --> 2:18:01.840 But nobody know what the fuck niggas is saying and 2:18:01.879 --> 2:18:05.119 ship like that this hip hop that's take a shot 2:18:05.160 --> 2:18:10.520 to be racist. Let me just take something I would 2:18:10.560 --> 2:18:11.400 never be racist. 2:18:11.920 --> 2:18:13.520 Like I said, man, I'm so proud of you. I'm 2:18:13.520 --> 2:18:17.039 so proud of your consistency. I'm so proud of your hustle. 2:18:17.560 --> 2:18:18.840 Damn you ain't you, ain't chante none of that. 2:18:19.360 --> 2:18:22.800 Last Now that's that's kind of physic sobriety. 2:18:27.520 --> 2:18:29.480 Yeah, that was placed in front of him, but it's 2:18:29.480 --> 2:18:29.959 placing in front of. 2:18:29.959 --> 2:18:34.320 Me because listen, we couldn't have picked a better date 2:18:35.240 --> 2:18:35.920 to interview you. 2:18:37.280 --> 2:18:43.040 Because Drink Champs started out was just giving people, uh, flowers, 2:18:43.280 --> 2:18:45.600 flowers and you know people that's been in the game 2:18:45.760 --> 2:18:48.640 ten years or more. But now it's really about celebrating 2:18:49.400 --> 2:18:52.400 and I'm so proud to celebrate you, Like I'm so 2:18:52.600 --> 2:18:56.600 proud that like hear your roses because because one not 2:18:56.720 --> 2:18:58.480 because you're my friend, because. 2:18:58.280 --> 2:19:02.240 You deserve it, Like you a loyal, dude. I watched 2:19:02.280 --> 2:19:06.080 it for twenty five fucking years. I watched it. I 2:19:06.280 --> 2:19:09.360 ran with this seven. I believe our first fucking toys 2:19:09.440 --> 2:19:12.440 is together. I believe like our first run is together. 2:19:12.560 --> 2:19:15.360 So for me to see you from there and see 2:19:15.360 --> 2:19:18.920 where you're at now and it still be that same nigga, 2:19:19.680 --> 2:19:23.000 like you're just smaller and wiser, I'm so proud of it, 2:19:24.680 --> 2:19:27.560 you know, And I'm so I'm so happy that this 2:19:27.680 --> 2:19:29.640 platform has got bigger and bigger and bigger. 2:19:30.520 --> 2:19:32.879 So where I say this now now it means something 2:19:32.920 --> 2:19:33.240 you tell me. 2:19:34.120 --> 2:19:37.440 It always meant something. It always means something when it 2:19:37.760 --> 2:19:38.000 when it. 2:19:38.040 --> 2:19:40.160 Coach Flowers always say this about you. 2:19:40.600 --> 2:19:44.480 But now that now that this platform has become just bigger, 2:19:44.760 --> 2:19:47.400 we can't control it. Now, I'm so glad to give 2:19:47.440 --> 2:19:49.600 you this platform. I'm so glad to tell you how 2:19:49.680 --> 2:19:51.200 much you mean to the coach and how much you 2:19:51.400 --> 2:19:52.199 change the coach. 2:19:52.800 --> 2:19:54.360 You know what I'm saying. I just said, you know 2:19:54.440 --> 2:19:57.120 about you on your own, fluence, on your own and 2:19:57.240 --> 2:20:00.400 you know your Flowers, you deserve this. This is rare talk, 2:20:00.520 --> 2:20:03.320 like you know, like like you know, like I said. 2:20:03.160 --> 2:20:04.680 I was always with you, but it was always for 2:20:04.760 --> 2:20:07.800 young niggas from my hood telling me like, nigga were 2:20:07.879 --> 2:20:09.920 rocking the dip set and I'm like, we're walking to 2:20:10.000 --> 2:20:12.000 Jim Jones and niggas you have the niggas wearing the. 2:20:12.480 --> 2:20:20.560 Fun the funny jeans and ship. You know. I'm likeas 2:20:20.600 --> 2:20:26.280 got everybody coach, it's so dope. It's so dope what 2:20:26.360 --> 2:20:27.840 you did. It's what you're doing. 2:20:28.320 --> 2:20:31.240 And one thing for short things for certain people from 2:20:31.320 --> 2:20:33.039 our era could do whatever, but. 2:20:33.160 --> 2:20:35.959 You got a hit record now in this era. 2:20:37.640 --> 2:20:38.039 To take off. 2:20:38.200 --> 2:20:42.320 Man. Trust all people from our generations looking back and 2:20:42.360 --> 2:20:47.520 saying this, nigga got a hit and relevant ladies like bro, 2:20:47.959 --> 2:20:52.600 that's why everybody doing shows because niggas can't go back 2:20:52.640 --> 2:20:53.640 in the studio and make that. 2:20:54.200 --> 2:20:56.119 And you making it, and you're making it with niggas 2:20:56.120 --> 2:20:57.920 who want to make it with you. You fucking with 2:20:58.040 --> 2:20:59.160 niggas who want to be around you. 2:20:59.760 --> 2:21:02.160 Y'all dudes change the world and you continue to change 2:21:02.200 --> 2:21:04.400 the world every day. I want to change face to 2:21:04.440 --> 2:21:06.600 face man and man, how proud I am with you, 2:21:06.920 --> 2:21:09.240 But how face the face man, A man, you deserve it. 2:21:16.160 --> 2:21:18.840 I take all those flowers. I appreciate you, my brother, 2:21:19.000 --> 2:21:20.640 thank you, my brother like this, because you. 2:21:20.680 --> 2:21:22.520 Know why, there was a time he was humble. There's 2:21:22.520 --> 2:21:24.760 a time he was almost too humble. He was always 2:21:24.760 --> 2:21:27.760 playing the back seat and you're in the driver seat now. 2:21:29.120 --> 2:21:32.520 I'm sure trying to be humble, but it's hard, I mean, 2:21:32.800 --> 2:21:34.960 you know what I mean. But in this game and 2:21:35.040 --> 2:21:37.320 this game, humble don't work too much if you're trying 2:21:37.360 --> 2:21:38.199 to get your point across. 2:21:38.520 --> 2:21:41.840 But in life you need you need to be humble. 2:21:41.879 --> 2:21:43.760 When you're dealing with life, it's and humble at the 2:21:43.800 --> 2:21:46.879 same time. You gotta balance balance its balance. 2:21:48.640 --> 2:21:50.600 I'm grateful for this rap for this rap game. 2:21:50.640 --> 2:21:52.480 I can't say that it's saved my life so many 2:21:52.560 --> 2:21:53.880 times and it's still saving my life. 2:21:53.920 --> 2:21:55.920 Like they put me in a position like no other day. 2:21:56.000 --> 2:21:58.360 Like I don't know if people understand what it is 2:21:58.440 --> 2:22:01.160 to be where we're at, to be able to have 2:22:01.680 --> 2:22:04.160 been through the things we've been through, and like when 2:22:04.200 --> 2:22:06.960 I go home every ninety see that I can still 2:22:07.000 --> 2:22:09.680 feed my family, Like it's like it's it's like you know, 2:22:10.000 --> 2:22:11.520 I'm I guess you. 2:22:11.560 --> 2:22:12.800 Gotta last shot, you know what I mean, Like you 2:22:12.840 --> 2:22:13.720 gotta last shot over. 2:22:13.640 --> 2:22:14.360 There, last shot. 2:22:14.400 --> 2:22:16.240 I'm just about to drink this ain't no more shots 2:22:16.280 --> 2:22:17.160 you thisself. 2:22:17.600 --> 2:22:18.360 We're gonna take a shot. 2:22:18.520 --> 2:22:20.120 I just want to say, hip hop has been been 2:22:20.160 --> 2:22:20.920 a savior to me, man. 2:22:20.920 --> 2:22:21.840 I know it's been a savior to you. 2:22:22.000 --> 2:22:22.160 Man. 2:22:22.320 --> 2:22:23.040 I appreciate you. 2:22:23.280 --> 2:22:25.240 I'm gonna give your flowers the same time they. 2:22:25.280 --> 2:22:28.640 Got me drunk. It's my birthday over a day. 2:22:30.120 --> 2:22:33.320 Shots shots everybody that that that that that helped me 2:22:33.360 --> 2:22:35.680 get here, because it's not just me by myself. People 2:22:35.800 --> 2:22:37.440 like to say that I did this all by myself, 2:22:37.480 --> 2:22:39.160 and I did not do this all by myself. And 2:22:39.240 --> 2:22:41.200 I never say I always say we because I got 2:22:41.240 --> 2:22:43.400 a team behind me, or did I believe in and they. 2:22:43.400 --> 2:22:44.000 Believe in me? 2:22:46.760 --> 2:22:49.360 And you can tell like like I leaned off of 2:22:49.440 --> 2:22:51.680 him being Puerto Rican. I only see happy birthday in 2:22:51.720 --> 2:22:55.879 Puerto Rican. I see I see that. I don't even 2:22:56.040 --> 2:22:58.240 I don't. I don't really, I don't even know that 2:23:07.120 --> 2:23:07.959 thinking in the black ones. 2:23:08.959 --> 2:23:10.879 We want to be mad at Puerto Rican and black. 2:23:11.360 --> 2:23:13.480 I got some Spanish album coming up to so I 2:23:13.560 --> 2:23:14.320 just wanted to put that out. 2:23:14.800 --> 2:23:15.280 I see that. 2:23:21.760 --> 2:23:25.480 A couple of dollars, see you, man, Let me just 2:23:25.520 --> 2:23:27.640 say I appreciate you, my. 2:23:27.680 --> 2:23:35.880 Brother just off of me, brot me tell you something. 2:23:36.680 --> 2:23:39.000 That was the funnest time in my life doing a 2:23:39.040 --> 2:23:44.320 Spanish album. Everyone in our community laughed at me. Everyone 2:23:46.080 --> 2:23:48.760 criticized me, even my even my right hand man e 2:23:48.959 --> 2:23:52.560 F M. Fat Joe. They sat me down in meetings 2:23:52.959 --> 2:23:57.680 do it and was like, niggas, do not do that music. 2:23:58.120 --> 2:24:01.080 I did the music and I'm so notice nobody got stabbed. 2:24:01.080 --> 2:24:02.680 At the end of the night, I was like, I 2:24:02.800 --> 2:24:03.040 did not. 2:24:03.120 --> 2:24:03.440 I didn't. 2:24:03.440 --> 2:24:05.320 I didn't do a good show, because that's how I 2:24:05.440 --> 2:24:07.640 felt like I did a good show, like I get 2:24:07.680 --> 2:24:11.520 stabbed like the boost me. 2:24:11.920 --> 2:24:13.959 You opened up, but you, Bro, you opened up the door, 2:24:14.080 --> 2:24:16.800 like like like you open up Paring Doris box. 2:24:17.320 --> 2:24:19.959 Listen, it's so much money there, bro, it's like going 2:24:20.000 --> 2:24:23.120 to open up its box, like you know when you 2:24:23.200 --> 2:24:33.360 come to a party, you opened up the figure when 2:24:33.360 --> 2:24:40.200 you left. Yeah, how did it? How does it feel? Though? 2:24:40.400 --> 2:24:42.080 What I didn't feel? 2:24:42.200 --> 2:24:42.840 What to be right? 2:24:43.120 --> 2:24:43.600 To be you? 2:24:43.879 --> 2:24:44.000 Right? 2:24:44.120 --> 2:24:44.240 Man? 2:24:44.320 --> 2:24:47.720 I would like to be me. I'm you right now 2:24:52.760 --> 2:24:55.200 busting out things watching like you know, I'm I mean 2:24:55.600 --> 2:24:58.480 whatever you yeah, I got I got to watch. 2:24:58.520 --> 2:24:59.480 It's only three d's. 2:24:59.360 --> 2:24:59.760 Made in the. 2:25:02.560 --> 2:25:12.080 What this shouting, Alex? 2:25:12.840 --> 2:25:14.279 What you have to deal with Alamo. 2:25:17.000 --> 2:25:18.560 Still got them caps in the stores. 2:25:18.560 --> 2:25:21.840 And that's right, that's right, guys. 2:25:22.320 --> 2:25:24.119 Once again, man, let me just say it again. Man, 2:25:24.160 --> 2:25:27.760 I really, I'm really proud of you. I really, I 2:25:27.920 --> 2:25:29.880 really brag about you. You know what I mean, Like 2:25:30.440 --> 2:25:32.480 I tell motherfuckers, a lot of people, a lot of 2:25:32.520 --> 2:25:40.080 people always want to be Jordan. And Jordan is great, Scotty. 2:25:40.120 --> 2:25:41.240 People live ahead of her life. 2:25:41.879 --> 2:25:44.480 You know, he's Dan. What is what is? 2:25:44.640 --> 2:25:44.880 What is? 2:25:45.320 --> 2:25:49.800 Nobody can't be great without that capital, without that right 2:25:49.879 --> 2:25:50.400 hand man. 2:25:51.400 --> 2:25:53.800 No one is great without that right hand man. 2:25:54.320 --> 2:25:58.480 And you, I said, Tony, I mean everybody's position, right, 2:25:59.200 --> 2:26:02.440 you got that person is always to do what wasn't 2:26:02.480 --> 2:26:06.960 nobody else is willing to do. But when you understand 2:26:07.000 --> 2:26:10.080 your position, it's gonna be great. On the other side, 2:26:10.080 --> 2:26:12.280 I've been through a lot. I was able to make Nigga. 2:26:12.280 --> 2:26:14.920 I wasn't a rapper bro like the soldiers. For me 2:26:15.040 --> 2:26:18.720 to sit here and talk to you, I know you 2:26:18.920 --> 2:26:21.400 from being like you did now you wanted to. 2:26:21.400 --> 2:26:32.000 Hear us rappers out Nigga Niga. The radio station didn't 2:26:32.000 --> 2:26:34.320 know I was interviewing you. I was going to the 2:26:35.520 --> 2:26:38.280 and we said the trains comes on. I said this, nigga, 2:26:38.640 --> 2:26:40.760 that's crazy because. 2:26:40.600 --> 2:26:44.200 Because right before whenever we do an interview, put the 2:26:44.280 --> 2:26:46.560 music on in here and I put the music on, so. 2:26:46.600 --> 2:26:47.960 We analyzed the person. 2:26:48.160 --> 2:26:49.560 But I'm talking about as soon as we got on, 2:26:49.680 --> 2:26:51.440 we got in the car, we said the trends was 2:26:51.480 --> 2:26:55.160 on and I was just like, Holy ship, this motherfucker 2:26:55.360 --> 2:26:56.960 was doing it in the nineties and doing it now. 2:26:57.360 --> 2:26:59.840 What you're doing has been unprecedented. Keep doing your mother 2:27:06.000 --> 2:27:10.360 really good personally. I'm gonna push for the album. I 2:27:10.440 --> 2:27:12.600 want you to. We're gonna get it together. 2:27:12.879 --> 2:27:15.000 We're gonna get it together, you know what, because everybody 2:27:15.080 --> 2:27:17.240 got good energy right now. Everybody is doing good at 2:27:17.240 --> 2:27:19.040 what they do right now. You think everybody's in their 2:27:19.080 --> 2:27:21.240 own lane. Everybody's flourishing and ship like that. So I 2:27:21.360 --> 2:27:24.160 do believe we'll get a dierent album. You dig I mean, 2:27:24.760 --> 2:27:25.760 you know what I mean. 2:27:26.800 --> 2:27:28.440 But shouts so all my brothers you heard like. 2:27:28.640 --> 2:27:30.560 I wouldn't be nothing without them, I wouldn't be here 2:27:30.600 --> 2:27:32.560 without them, and that's one hundred percent effect and ship 2:27:32.680 --> 2:27:34.520 like that. So it's dipset so that we die shout 2:27:34.640 --> 2:27:37.640 to all shouts to all my v L vampire life, 2:27:37.760 --> 2:27:38.560 all my orders. 2:27:38.680 --> 2:27:40.120 Oh oh, I got some. 2:27:40.240 --> 2:27:42.640 Music coming out. I got some incredible order. Ship lookout 2:27:42.680 --> 2:27:44.840 for us. We're about to start bombing and ship like that. Like, 2:27:45.040 --> 2:27:46.800 and that's what I'm most excited for. I got a 2:27:46.879 --> 2:27:50.160 group of artists as a boxing ass like. I've been 2:27:50.240 --> 2:27:52.720 working hard, They've been working hard, and we're gonna go up. 2:27:52.760 --> 2:27:52.880 Man. 2:27:52.959 --> 2:27:55.600 Besides everything else, I've been doing drip reporters on Refo 2:27:55.879 --> 2:27:56.240 about the. 2:27:56.200 --> 2:27:57.280 Shoot the Late Night Show. 2:27:58.400 --> 2:28:01.640 I got I got shots, got jo, I got I 2:28:01.720 --> 2:28:06.680 got got, I got jo, I got I got John, 2:28:10.280 --> 2:28:13.640 I got glasses, I got I got hot tolerance. 2:28:18.200 --> 2:28:27.360 It's different flavors, different flavors. But but man, let's yo, man, 2:28:27.400 --> 2:28:35.720 We're proud of you. Let's right it up right. 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