Speaker 1: He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast man.
Speaker 2: He's a legendary queens rapper.
Speaker 1: He ain't s agreed. That is your boy in O
Speaker 1: r E.
Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer, one up as d
Speaker 3: J e f N.
Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one
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Speaker 1: Drink up mother? Would it good be? Hope? Hees what
Speaker 1: it should be.
Speaker 6: This is your boy n O r E. Usually is
Speaker 6: e f N here. He's sick today, so we we
Speaker 6: we so we we replaced it with the smoke Champs,
Speaker 6: But make some noise with drink Chopper.
Speaker 1: Right now. Who we got in the building is you know.
Speaker 6: We've been giving this tribute to loyal people, to people
Speaker 6: that's you know, that's bosses in their own rights for
Speaker 6: people that's legendary. This man, I've seen him when he
Speaker 6: used to buy five Nichols.
Speaker 1: Fly Fly came a long way.
Speaker 6: This motherfucker is a hustler's hustler. I see them film
Speaker 6: his own videos I've seen them record himself.
Speaker 1: I see them, you know, take sisser and put it
Speaker 1: on his back and go state to state, worldwide, do
Speaker 1: a mixtape. This motherfucker is a man's man.
Speaker 6: He's a legend, legend, and I personally want to start
Speaker 6: this interview off by giving him his flowers off.
Speaker 1: Goddamn time, Jones. We started this show.
Speaker 6: We wanted to give legends legends, they props, and we're
Speaker 6: gonna start it off.
Speaker 1: I'll giving you your actual flyers snoop dog things like
Speaker 1: a Grammy your people. Come on. Yes, that's right. Happy,
Speaker 1: Let's let's bring that cake out. Let's bring that cake out.
Speaker 1: Look at that takeout. That's how you know niggas. Niggas
Speaker 1: like with the cake out, we were gonna fast. You
Speaker 1: gotta looking crazy. So Jones, what's going on?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: Happy birthday? Thank you.
Speaker 8: I appreciate the love. Yes, appreciate love. The wealthy years.
Speaker 8: We've been doing quite some time, man.
Speaker 1: Yes, so let's let's talk about the knockout. It is
Speaker 1: that your that's uh.
Speaker 8: One of the strands I got do business with a
Speaker 8: company called how Tolerance probably got the best weed in
Speaker 8: the world right now.
Speaker 9: They've been going hard but this is what I got. Knockout.
Speaker 8: I got like five six strands of it, different types
Speaker 8: of different different types of knockout and ship like that. Yeah,
Speaker 8: it's different types of all types of I'm running. You know,
Speaker 8: I've been smoking weight for a long time and feel
Speaker 8: good to have some good weed and do some good
Speaker 8: we business, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Right right?
Speaker 1: So how did you hook up with how tolerance?
Speaker 9: My man Snacks actually put that together for me.
Speaker 8: He built, He built the bridge snags in Big Bully shouts,
Speaker 8: the big shouts, the Big Bully shot Bully, Bully ohs
Speaker 8: in the middle of different things.
Speaker 9: So they bully of that, yeah vs. Trade songs.
Speaker 8: Big Bully, you know Big Bully's official original diplomat. Remember, like,
Speaker 8: like what you're seeing with all of them, that's just
Speaker 8: a reflection of him staring with us. I didn't know
Speaker 8: that Bully with me since he was a teenager. Oh,
Speaker 8: let me see that. Like, I'm a big Bully in Miami,
Speaker 8: you know I met Big Bully is crazy. If he's
Speaker 8: in Miami one of the Memorial Day weekends. You know
Speaker 8: how crazy used to be back in these Memorial Probably
Speaker 8: it's like ninety nine maybe when we had to sit there, okay,
Speaker 8: and then.
Speaker 1: What is that? This is months?
Speaker 8: I got it, I got I got it, I got it,
Speaker 8: I got And then I'm walking down the strip and
Speaker 8: I see big bully with a whole big cooler with
Speaker 8: man scissors, and then he's selling scissors for like two.
Speaker 1: Hundred dollars a bottle on a strip of Miami.
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, now, your hustle is impeccable. I took
Speaker 9: his number. I sad, let me get your number, of
Speaker 9: young man. I like, got you doing? And I just
Speaker 9: kept him with me since then there make some books.
Speaker 1: Just bring over to you.
Speaker 8: I just I just did a cool little deal. I'm
Speaker 8: into the liquor business again again Corneac. We got champagne,
Speaker 8: all right, I got the Kansas champagne.
Speaker 1: Also, what's the champagne? Hold on?
Speaker 6: Because I'm a bust with Oh sexy ship, old ship
Speaker 6: as hot as a motherfucker, but as sexy. Yeah, let's
Speaker 6: drink weak cold. Yeah, a celebration. I'm just showing him
Speaker 6: in the business that I'm in.
Speaker 1: And what's jade as jadah j.
Speaker 5: On Friday?
Speaker 1: Someone is your doll that sells the water.
Speaker 10: And the cat.
Speaker 7: Stick with me?
Speaker 1: So check it because I remember I remember before you
Speaker 1: hold on because it's grasses, right. I don't like how
Speaker 1: you moving, Okay, okay, I don't like how you.
Speaker 10: Moving.
Speaker 1: Like how you moving.
Speaker 10: Was here.
Speaker 1: You got ye thank yeah, I go to bitsiness frames.
Speaker 9: I love you to death for that.
Speaker 1: Man, That's why I with you. But let me ask you.
Speaker 6: Okay, I remember, I remember you before you uh uh
Speaker 6: uh had the Scissor. You was going to people and
Speaker 6: getting burses from people.
Speaker 1: He was putting together a mixed take. Yet, so is
Speaker 1: this something you're gonna do with with this? Like that
Speaker 1: was the worst time I've ever seen a clicker be
Speaker 1: promoted to a mixtape.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna do the full on marketing the same way
Speaker 8: I was doing with Scissor, but it's a little bit
Speaker 8: more better now because you got I g got social
Speaker 8: media and we didn't have none of that, but we
Speaker 8: were doing the scissors. Now we got access to all that.
Speaker 8: So the marketing strategy is gonna be man. You deep,
Speaker 8: You're like, I come up from the era of the
Speaker 8: Saintan's era, when Snoop Dogg and all of them were
Speaker 8: doing all them Satan's commercials, the commercials we fell in
Speaker 8: love with the commercials that.
Speaker 9: Made us go to the store and buy Saint Ives.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing that I'll be trying to do
Speaker 1: with the liquors that I get involved with, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So man, why you ain't bring the
Speaker 1: cake yet?
Speaker 7: The cake man?
Speaker 1: Come on, we're gonna sink that Cooper. Y'all your family
Speaker 1: and come on, bring them the cake, Jamie, bring the cake,
Speaker 1: No niggas, Happy birthday.
Speaker 9: Jim, Thank you, my brother.
Speaker 1: What you're doing this whole week You got a whole weekend.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you got a whole weekend.
Speaker 8: I gotta I gotta party in Exchange tonight because the
Speaker 8: birthday coming to twelve o'clock.
Speaker 1: Exchange, not the old mister Jones. Right, that's on. That's
Speaker 1: on the beach.
Speaker 8: Okay, and tomorrow I got an actual pop up concert
Speaker 8: uh skate park called skate Bird. I got a bunch
Speaker 8: of people perform especially from the crib. Shouts the ball, greasy,
Speaker 8: shout the top, Yeah, shouts the mellow racks, shouts to
Speaker 8: Zoe dollars, shouts to be money fat Joe, hit me, Mellie.
Speaker 9: It's a live don't forget me on the field. I
Speaker 9: was calling everybody know, all came together.
Speaker 8: Then after that do some booby trap and Sunday we
Speaker 8: got church. We're going to live baby, We're gonna go
Speaker 8: crazy in there.
Speaker 1: Mike Gardner, of course, Mike, God, it ain't nothing like
Speaker 1: a headline of Puss. That's my boy. Baby.
Speaker 6: Let me let me ask you because there's a rumor
Speaker 6: that the first time we ever got to see Game
Speaker 6: was in the Jim Jones video. Is that absolutely truth?
Speaker 6: So so game was signed? How did you how did
Speaker 6: you find out about Game?
Speaker 9: The homies was like, uh yo, you know, easy, he
Speaker 9: got a son.
Speaker 8: He'd be rapping bloody blood.
Speaker 9: He going crazy, like in New York. That's all he said.
Speaker 1: He got a son.
Speaker 8: Bro name is Games And then the game had the
Speaker 8: big easy Okay. So no, there's no social media and
Speaker 8: none of that. This South, We're thinking, oh, this is
Speaker 8: easy son. So I heard I had somebody find him
Speaker 8: like not an easy son, but you know, easy to
Speaker 8: guard out of there. I actually bring actually had Game
Speaker 8: and his best friend full Ben.
Speaker 9: I flew him from l A to New York.
Speaker 1: They first trip to New York, but that video you
Speaker 1: saw was in LA though. That was in LA.
Speaker 8: After we started having a reship and forming a brotherhood
Speaker 8: and things like that that I went to Uh, I
Speaker 8: went to Bompton to go shoot the Certified Gangster this video,
Speaker 8: which was the first video that people got to glint some.
Speaker 9: Game and I got in, but I didn't get in
Speaker 9: any trouble.
Speaker 1: I remember Doctor Dre was heard after math was a
Speaker 1: little heated.
Speaker 8: I heard Doctor d was, Oh yeah, held see that
Speaker 8: he tried to call the office and tell Cosh Records
Speaker 8: to have them take that video.
Speaker 9: Down or something like something something something, And.
Speaker 8: I'm good for still like still, but he said something
Speaker 8: to the fact that he didn't need to.
Speaker 1: He didn't want the video up.
Speaker 8: I guess very aggressively, and my respond was very aggressive,
Speaker 8: and the video stayed up, and people who got to
Speaker 8: see game and enjoy certified against us to this day.
Speaker 1: All right, because I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 6: Jim, you know you you're a homide. But I still
Speaker 6: had to do research like like a regular. You discovered
Speaker 6: a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I bet I had my hands on Soldier
Speaker 1: Boy on the Law. Yeah I was.
Speaker 9: I was Sodier Boy before Solacie Boy.
Speaker 1: I seen.
Speaker 8: I actually was that Soldier Boys first show in Atlanta
Speaker 8: when he was like, this kid is the phenomenon.
Speaker 9: He came up going.
Speaker 1: Superman. I don't know what this nigga he was doing.
Speaker 7: He was funny dancing and the he was like, he's.
Speaker 1: The next one.
Speaker 8: He had the big ass clothes on. Shouts to that boy. Man,
Speaker 8: he's very ahead of his time. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 8: I have my hands in a lot of people and
Speaker 8: helping a lot of people, even making them the right
Speaker 8: decisions for them to get to that successful point in
Speaker 8: their career.
Speaker 1: And things like that.
Speaker 8: Like I was, I was in the beginning of a
Speaker 8: lot of people's career. Shot said Kevin Gates.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: That's one of my that's one of my favorite stories
Speaker 9: of all times.
Speaker 1: Kevin Gate tell us the Kevin Gate story.
Speaker 8: Uh, I believe I got a call from was it
Speaker 8: Tash Cash Money? I think it was Tas and one
Speaker 8: of them called me like, yo, bird Man trying to
Speaker 8: sign his artist. His name is Kevin Gatesey just came
Speaker 8: home from jail. It's the biggest thing going in. Birdman
Speaker 8: trying to sign it. But we got one problem. He's
Speaker 8: not going to sign the Birdman unless he meets Jim Jones.
Speaker 8: I was like, what they was like yeah, man, he
Speaker 8: in the city right now. Can we bring him to
Speaker 8: you because Burrman needs to sign this artist. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 8: tell him, pull up, Kevin Gates, pull up. He still
Speaker 8: had on the khakis, still looking like he was fresh
Speaker 8: out of jail.
Speaker 1: Got it in.
Speaker 8: I just felt his energy that you you you knew
Speaker 8: he was one of the us, that he came from
Speaker 8: the same places we came from, and things like that.
Speaker 8: We sat in there, did like five records that night.
Speaker 8: And after that, Cash Money got to do Bennis with Wow.
Speaker 1: I said, I never never that, So he's cat Money
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 9: That was like when his first did when he first
Speaker 9: came to the game. That was like one of his
Speaker 9: first situations was with cash Money.
Speaker 1: You can look it up. I never knew that.
Speaker 9: Of course, this is just for everybody. This was on
Speaker 9: the table.
Speaker 7: Our garar sal He got some flavor outside.
Speaker 1: Past. See you outside of your body. Let me get
Speaker 1: let me get pass off, smoke more and more money.
Speaker 1: That's you, right, how tolerance, that's your tolerance.
Speaker 8: That's my calling the many right there, that's that's mister
Speaker 8: hot Tea himself.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it home. Yeah, yo, take that face
Speaker 1: off your man.
Speaker 9: Are you feeling my brother?
Speaker 7: Man, I appreciate you being there for me.
Speaker 1: Man, they're gonna get me back. I'll bet there with you.
Speaker 9: Swing Broke, I ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: Keep your on the gas.
Speaker 8: I'ma be waiting for you soon as you touch back.
Speaker 8: Nigg We're gonna do it different this time.
Speaker 7: Know you're hurt.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm focused, Broke, your brother focused, Man.
Speaker 8: That's all you need to be is focused, Nigga. I
Speaker 8: love you to definitely. Nothing gonna change. You've been doing
Speaker 8: this long. I ain't gonna stop now, my brother, you hurt.
Speaker 7: I know you've already been there for me.
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate it. Man. Just keep you full on
Speaker 1: the gas, Manna tell puts your team. Man, they keep playing.
Speaker 1: I love you to death.
Speaker 7: I love you to death.
Speaker 8: Stroke Many, we're cool and we're cooling.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: It's cancer is cancer season, Nigga.
Speaker 1: You know what it is, Nigga.
Speaker 7: I said it's cancer season.
Speaker 1: Nigga. I'm just.
Speaker 7: Like you back your brother right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 11: Bro?
Speaker 1: We love your baby. Fixed Stroke. We smokeing. We're smoking
Speaker 1: knockout all day.
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna knock ourselves out today with Jimmy Man,
Speaker 4: we love you bro.
Speaker 1: Shows. So what were you talking about before there saying.
Speaker 8: You're talking about different I was a soldier boy before,
Speaker 8: so you're talking about Kevin Gates.
Speaker 9: A lot of stories like that, like, uh, what's the
Speaker 9: dude that same Day and Night?
Speaker 1: Kick Cutty, you know how he was? How you got
Speaker 1: to start him?
Speaker 8: No, dudes wanted to direct the video for me at
Speaker 8: the time, and I was like, Ship, let me see
Speaker 8: some of the videos your director.
Speaker 9: So he came to my studio, played the video they directed.
Speaker 8: Video they directed was called it was Day and Night
Speaker 8: with Kik Cuddy and he was on the roof looking crazy.
Speaker 1: And ship like that.
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'll let you do the video if you'll
Speaker 8: tell his kid give me his beat so I could
Speaker 8: do the remix.
Speaker 1: I could remix his record.
Speaker 9: Whoa it was like it was so did the video
Speaker 9: remix the record? Just put it up on the internet.
Speaker 8: Somebody ripped it off the internet from high ninety seven
Speaker 8: and they started playing it at Hot ninety seven and
Speaker 8: that's how Kik cut They ended up getting this deal
Speaker 8: and they cut me out the deal because he was Uh.
Speaker 8: I forgot one of them, the Cassidy or a or
Speaker 8: a Rex and whatever, one of them one of them
Speaker 8: dudes and ship like that.
Speaker 1: That's one of your most played records, right.
Speaker 9: You did played that.
Speaker 6: Id because me outside looking in, I thought he had
Speaker 6: the deal.
Speaker 1: It was it was lit and then you I'm doing
Speaker 1: it that.
Speaker 9: He didn't have no deal. He was working in the
Speaker 9: he was working in the rock and roll store under
Speaker 9: Cotch Records.
Speaker 8: He was in nobody. He didn't he wasn't even think
Speaker 8: about a deal. He just was working on his craft
Speaker 8: and doing. He was working in a rock and roll store.
Speaker 1: He always was.
Speaker 8: I used to se him all the time, always with
Speaker 8: Slim Jean. He worked under Coatch. That's the craziest thing.
Speaker 8: He didn't know who he was. But I used to
Speaker 8: go in the store on bodies, bottle cap belts all
Speaker 8: the time and he used to help me out all
Speaker 8: the rock and roll clothes and.
Speaker 1: Ship like that.
Speaker 8: And then when they showed me the video, I'm like,
Speaker 8: I noticed kid, like he's working and I just did
Speaker 8: the video.
Speaker 1: I mean nothing, nobody he did like it.
Speaker 8: Just that was just that was the path that God
Speaker 8: had him, Like you were about to go on right
Speaker 8: now as soon as Jones do this record and after
Speaker 8: that out of here, I don't really getting too many
Speaker 8: things and like that, I'm.
Speaker 9: Cool with It's like that, I'm cool with.
Speaker 1: Another one is Meek.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 8: I was just happy to be a part in the
Speaker 8: very beginning when Meek was trying to get his deal
Speaker 8: and things like that.
Speaker 9: Damn what would meet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because remember he was signed the Tea out first, right.
Speaker 8: I don't remember him being signed to Tea, But I'm
Speaker 8: gonna tell you the story that I had with him.
Speaker 9: They was bringing him up to UH to the to
Speaker 9: my studio in man hand, like every week, like it was.
Speaker 8: I was seeing me a lot like just he was
Speaker 8: trying to find figure out, figure out what he was
Speaker 8: doing and shit like that. He was always coming up
Speaker 8: to New York and come to the studio and one
Speaker 8: day were just having a conversation and shit like that,
Speaker 8: and he was talking about I don't even know if
Speaker 8: he remembers this, I got this, I got this all
Speaker 8: on footage too, and shit like that. We was having
Speaker 8: a conversation and he was telling me about being a
Speaker 8: mister getting a deal and he got a lot of
Speaker 8: people offering them situations, labels and all that. So at
Speaker 8: that time, I was kind of in the midst of
Speaker 8: my way out of the music, like I was disgusted
Speaker 8: with it. I really didn't want to be involved with it.
Speaker 8: I didn't know where I was at, like, you know,
Speaker 8: for myself. So I was like, in my mind, I
Speaker 8: was like, I could never try to sign a person
Speaker 8: like Meek at that time and don't have a direction
Speaker 8: for myself and things like that.
Speaker 9: This's what I'm thinking eternally.
Speaker 8: So I was acting like, so who you got on
Speaker 8: the table and things like that, and I can't re
Speaker 8: all the labels, but I do remember he was like,
Speaker 8: and Rick Ross want to sign me too, And this
Speaker 8: is when Rick Ross was on Fire fire Ball Like what,
Speaker 8: I'm like, you said, Ross want to sign it. I'm like,
Speaker 8: you need to do the Ross situation, like go Ross
Speaker 8: and you ain't on turn back here on fire You're
Speaker 8: gonna come up.
Speaker 9: And next thing you know, he took you know what
Speaker 9: I mean.
Speaker 8: I mean, I just know the next I had that
Speaker 8: conversation and the next thing, you know, he ended up
Speaker 8: with that deal and took off.
Speaker 1: I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm boss.
Speaker 6: I tell you, I tell you it's crazy about Meek
Speaker 6: mill One night we was in Prime one twelve oball places.
Speaker 6: I'm there with Fat Joe and Fat Joe access him.
Speaker 6: This is like when me was like just getting like
Speaker 6: to where he's supposed to be and Fat Joe asked him.
Speaker 6: He was like, y'all want you to do a record
Speaker 6: with my new artist. And he looked Fat Joe in
Speaker 6: his face and he said no. He said, I'll do
Speaker 6: a record with you, but I'm trying to be hold status.
Speaker 1: That was some cocky ship to say, but listen, it
Speaker 1: made sense.
Speaker 6: That he's dead because you know, it's me and Fat
Speaker 6: Jad and you know we we like veterans, we're not
Speaker 6: used to getting told no. Although I didn't have nothing
Speaker 6: to do with the conversation, I was just listening, and
Speaker 6: I always remembered that I.
Speaker 1: Was like, you know, he said, he's trying to get
Speaker 1: but he did. What you said makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 8: And I always tell people that it was a time
Speaker 8: that he felt the void for the Hustles, especially from
Speaker 8: the East coast, up top perspective that we didn't have
Speaker 8: at that time, and he came in and filled that
Speaker 8: ship up completely. Like the new generation you me is
Speaker 8: coming to hustling scamming the whole new waiver getting money
Speaker 8: and ship like that. He represents so much like you're
Speaker 8: absolutely right, he stepped in and went whole status for
Speaker 8: generation generates. Yeah, like a hundred percent, Like I tipped
Speaker 8: my hat the cousin. I tell him that all the time, like, boy,
Speaker 8: you like Martin Luther king out here and things like that,
Speaker 8: Especially that transition when he got locked up and he
Speaker 8: came back in like he was just looking like Superman.
Speaker 1: Ways mean, you get invited to the White Party.
Speaker 9: No, I don't get invited.
Speaker 11: Tell me, I say, I'll get to the White Morning.
Speaker 11: I'm a I'm a link into gett with Mica whole.
Speaker 11: I ain't gonna love.
Speaker 1: I know, I've still got ways to go.
Speaker 6: I see Michael moving after that, Right there was the
Speaker 6: nigga said yeah you jay Z friend, Right, I said,
Speaker 6: damn prod jay Z friend.
Speaker 8: So that and this is this is the reason why
Speaker 8: I have a conversation with people like we have enough
Speaker 8: power to do our own white party.
Speaker 1: Why in no district you have your white weekend? Michael moving?
Speaker 9: And this is not about that.
Speaker 8: It's about the power that we had that he's tapping into,
Speaker 8: because you know, we have that we.
Speaker 1: Need to come back out.
Speaker 7: We did he to come back the Black Park, the
Speaker 7: Black Party.
Speaker 1: But it's not even about a black of white thing.
Speaker 8: It's just that we have the power to do the
Speaker 8: same type of things that we see and we all
Speaker 8: and a group of people like so it should be
Speaker 8: no problem for us to come to Our problem is
Speaker 8: it's so hard for us to come together and do
Speaker 8: things together. Of that.
Speaker 1: You did like, you never get it.
Speaker 8: We never get that off and ship like that, and
Speaker 8: we give it to somebody else and then we all
Speaker 8: and then they all get the credit of the culture
Speaker 8: that we all sat here. And what's the ass from
Speaker 8: from the project to get money to you heard now,
Speaker 8: we want to be invited to other people events that
Speaker 8: we should be having.
Speaker 1: It's true, but I still want to be invited though
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do something.
Speaker 8: But I really like the rough shoulders with the people
Speaker 8: that I fuk with this ship like that, no disrespecting
Speaker 8: avidy and I like new people, and I like new
Speaker 8: money and all that type of ship too, and ship
Speaker 8: like that, but I don't that ship don't impress me
Speaker 8: too much about.
Speaker 6: I always want to get invited to the bodies and
Speaker 6: then when they invite me, I'll be like, approach.
Speaker 12: Understand what it is, though, like you understand what it is.
Speaker 12: That's a different type of I need. I need to
Speaker 12: be in this like that's a different type of I
Speaker 12: got it.
Speaker 7: I gotta get in.
Speaker 1: The bunches crazy. I got to write into the brunch.
Speaker 6: I never actually went yes, tell us it's just as
Speaker 6: bribe to us from people.
Speaker 8: Who's not to the brunch. I can't allow that. Brunch
Speaker 8: has been one of the endless events that I've been to,
Speaker 8: and it's definitely might as well. They went around with
Speaker 8: the shoulder pouring over the place. Rich people all over
Speaker 8: the places, actors all over the place. I'm talking about
Speaker 8: X men, actors, fighter man, all type of people.
Speaker 6: And here's a million dollar Does Jim Jones go by herself?
Speaker 6: Do you bring freaking who you go to to the
Speaker 6: brunch with? I bring a few people, you plus one?
Speaker 1: I bring with me. Ellie Shula really like five people
Speaker 1: one time?
Speaker 2: Like you gotta plus five?
Speaker 1: Might I might not?
Speaker 7: I might be plus zero m minus you and is
Speaker 7: zero next time.
Speaker 1: But with the Vigil party, the Louis Vuiton party, it
Speaker 1: was just me and my wife. I was like I'm
Speaker 1: out a lot, like should I be talking to the podcast? Wow?
Speaker 1: Just me and my wife, but you with a plus
Speaker 1: five holy ship to the brunch and we didn't do
Speaker 1: it like both and bad. It was like secret service time.
Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I got I got to I got
Speaker 1: to check home, go over that way and meet you inside.
Speaker 1: Thinking because you heard.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I mean, yes, I'm I'm Rock Nason. I
Speaker 8: don't know if I'm still on the roster, but yes,
Speaker 8: the last time I checked I was, I was Rock Nation.
Speaker 1: Shouts the Rock Nation.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 8: That's a great bunch of people over there have They
Speaker 8: have opened up a lot of doors for me do
Speaker 8: me settling in our differences and things like that, which
Speaker 8: is one of the biggest opportunities that I got from
Speaker 8: being over there and things like that. For me, it
Speaker 8: wasn't really about money. I know, I had put myself
Speaker 8: in a corner coming up in this game for a
Speaker 8: lot of things that I've done and things like that,
Speaker 8: and me being able to do that move was one
Speaker 8: of the smartest moves that I was able to do
Speaker 8: because it started to open up a lot of the
Speaker 8: doors that was closed for me and started opening up
Speaker 8: different business that I could do with different people because
Speaker 8: they see that I was in a different space to
Speaker 8: be able to sit down and do that with the
Speaker 8: hole and all that shots the whole and shit like
Speaker 8: that shouts the og forgiving me the opportunity to understand
Speaker 8: the type of person I am and shit like that. So,
Speaker 8: you know, I definitely took my hat to them every time.
Speaker 8: I got to show ultimate respect for what they did
Speaker 8: and allowed me to do and shit like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: You know, it's something that I recently we had Tony
Speaker 6: YAlO on and it's something that I got to credit
Speaker 6: you for. So it's so like y'all guys were so
Speaker 6: loyal to the brand, so loyal to what y'all was repping.
Speaker 6: Did that ever like come back and haunt you? Because
Speaker 6: Yao said, I said, I asked to me. He said,
Speaker 6: it's still owed me.
Speaker 8: Yes, I mean, things that I've done back then, it
Speaker 8: definitely still haunts me to today. I mean in different
Speaker 8: type of ways. It's not as bad as they used
Speaker 8: to do. But we were doing a lot for the
Speaker 8: sake of the dipset hear. We did a lot, and
Speaker 8: we put it all on the line for our brand,
Speaker 8: and that was the greatest thing that we could ever
Speaker 8: I did, and I had the ball doing it, and
Speaker 8: I would do it all again in the same way
Speaker 8: with nothing different if they gave me another chance to
Speaker 8: do it.
Speaker 1: Anything you regret, I don't have no regrets.
Speaker 8: I take my lessons from the things that I did
Speaker 8: that I should have did better, But for the most part,
Speaker 8: I don't have I don't have no regrets. This is
Speaker 8: a mission in life that God gave me and I'm
Speaker 8: I'm gonna do it to the fullers. Even oh Coofie
Speaker 8: list is still around. If people want to play with me,
Speaker 8: did you I never I never got to uh, I
Speaker 8: ever got to see now. I never got to sit
Speaker 8: down and have a conversation with Nas and things like that.
Speaker 9: I had caught you about it, things.
Speaker 8: Like that that was like still one of the people
Speaker 8: that I never got to have a conversation out throughout
Speaker 8: my history of raping.
Speaker 1: Things like that.
Speaker 9: I think I would love to have a conversation with Nas.
Speaker 8: I don't I wouldn't know if he knows it, but
Speaker 8: Nas was one of my all time favorite rappers coming
Speaker 8: up and things like that, I've heard you say that
Speaker 8: since the barbecue and things like that, like he put
Speaker 8: He really put the whole dope boy, rap, crack hustler,
Speaker 8: get fresh rap into perspective before anybody else before her,
Speaker 8: Jay do it before her anybody else, Like he changed
Speaker 8: the cadence of rap into a whole different steam. Like
Speaker 8: he's the one that broke the camel's back when it
Speaker 8: came to artists like to me, when it came to
Speaker 8: artists like Big Daddy Kane and all these artists that
Speaker 8: came right or formed like after NAS came with that,
Speaker 8: they started to fade out.
Speaker 1: And then Jay Fat Joe like all of these rappers are.
Speaker 8: Spitting about the light that we was really starting to
Speaker 8: live right now and how it was changing like this
Speaker 8: is you know what I mean? So that's that's how
Speaker 8: I felt about that whole little situation and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Uh so what so how hard is it? Right?
Speaker 6: You having that love and you you you're saying what
Speaker 6: you're saying and then you get a call yo, they
Speaker 6: dis because I believe it was me, Cam. I was
Speaker 6: a part of the disc that he did. You know that, right,
Speaker 6: he did me, Cam, Nelly and Angie Martinez.
Speaker 1: So how hard was that?
Speaker 6: When you did you get a phone call or you
Speaker 6: was it you calling Cam?
Speaker 7: It wasn't even it wasn't. It wasn't even thought I
Speaker 7: even thought about.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 9: Was like, let's go.
Speaker 1: Ali Iverson Cross mind give the business. When he got
Speaker 1: on that court, I understood that Simon.
Speaker 8: As soon as we got signed to the game, I
Speaker 8: understood that nobody was no longer my idol anymore.
Speaker 9: They were my rivals and we had to treat it
Speaker 9: as that.
Speaker 8: And that's the that's the way we attacked the game
Speaker 8: like it was nobody bigger than the set.
Speaker 9: That's and that's what Cam was serious about, and things
Speaker 9: like that.
Speaker 8: You know, as crazy as Cam could be at some times,
Speaker 8: you're very smart, calculated, premeditated, like he's a he's a
Speaker 8: demon when it comes to doing music, and it comes
Speaker 8: to the whole blueprint of what we did, like you
Speaker 8: know what I mean, like this whole diplomat thing.
Speaker 7: He really kept us together and showed us a lot
Speaker 7: of discipline when it.
Speaker 8: Came to it, I mean as far as music and
Speaker 8: keeping our balls up, Like Cam used to make us
Speaker 8: write music every day and ship like that, like because
Speaker 8: he knew what it took at the time to become
Speaker 8: an artist. And at that time, bars were more important
Speaker 8: than anything.
Speaker 1: You had to have.
Speaker 8: You had to be able to rap it. You had
Speaker 8: to niggas tree styling all over the place and shit
Speaker 8: like that. You might call the Norris over this session
Speaker 8: might work out it. So it was like a lot
Speaker 8: of different things that he instilled in us early that
Speaker 8: I said, I kept with me all the way to
Speaker 8: this day and ship like that.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 6: So, so did you ever worry about like, you know,
Speaker 6: you're making a record against nas this is one of
Speaker 6: the greatest mcs of all time. Are you worried about
Speaker 6: his response or that's something you won't even think about.
Speaker 8: I wasn't even care about the response. I was about
Speaker 8: the action. I was worried about the street.
Speaker 1: What's next? How ya want to do this?
Speaker 8: Like that? I would like at the time, rapping and
Speaker 8: things like that was more of a cam thing, And
Speaker 8: I just always had a way of talking and cams
Speaker 8: always tell me, boy, if you could wrap the way
Speaker 8: you talk and act outside, you're gonna get some money.
Speaker 8: And he would do little things like that. That's why
Speaker 8: you hear me doing all the talking in between, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Definitely a professional.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So what's your favorite part of the game.
Speaker 6: Is it making the music or performing the records?
Speaker 1: I hate performing the records. You hate performing it? Hate
Speaker 1: no fucking way making it better.
Speaker 8: I mean I like on the music, and I mean
Speaker 8: I still love hate thing to me and with performances
Speaker 8: and things like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I never thought that I would have lost the bat,
Speaker 6: you would have lost the I thought, because you know, doing.
Speaker 1: My research and we should say it like I hate it.
Speaker 8: I hate it, but it's just like it's like I
Speaker 8: don't know how to explain it and things like that.
Speaker 8: I'll be definitely trying to It's like homework to me.
Speaker 8: I'll be trying to get off the stage as fast
Speaker 8: as I get.
Speaker 9: On the stage.
Speaker 1: WHOA, not as as you love?
Speaker 8: I mean still not even after all these years and
Speaker 8: things like that. I mean, I still I'm still in
Speaker 8: my comfort zone when I am on stage. And don't
Speaker 8: get me wrong, I've had some incredible shows and I
Speaker 8: and we go into the fullest and ship like that,
Speaker 8: but I still get a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of butterflies and ship like that. When I go
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 8: Driving to the show, I'd be like, damn, man, you
Speaker 8: still because.
Speaker 1: I see you, I see you, I see you at
Speaker 1: loves and friends. You go back to that you and
Speaker 1: jewels that love us and friends. So I stood there
Speaker 1: and I just watched it, and I feel like y'all
Speaker 1: was enjoying yourself.
Speaker 6: Like there's certain people that I watch. I can't say
Speaker 6: they name, but they get on stage. As soon as
Speaker 6: they get off, they throw the mic and they just
Speaker 6: angry because they've been because they have to pay their bills.
Speaker 6: They're not there because they want to, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, saying saying. So when I'm looking at you
Speaker 6: and Joel's I'm like, damn, it was so natural to me.
Speaker 1: I would have never thought I got to.
Speaker 8: Pay the bills too. But today, like it's like my
Speaker 8: back it's against the wall. I'm definitely going for the bag.
Speaker 8: But a couple of performances and things like that, and
Speaker 8: it's like it's like it's levels, Like you go to
Speaker 8: certain places.
Speaker 9: You're like, I gotta go up to level eight.
Speaker 8: Oh, I gotta go up to that was a level ten,
Speaker 8: Like go up to level ten, but it ain't no
Speaker 8: way about it, and things like that.
Speaker 1: That's just the whole mentality. Soon as I grabbed the mic,
Speaker 1: I'm on ten. What's what's your number one place to
Speaker 1: perform at?
Speaker 9: Like what you mean?
Speaker 1: Like me?
Speaker 6: Like me, Like I can never have a bad show
Speaker 6: in Connecticut. I can never have a bad show in Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: Like I don't give a fuck. I could have a
Speaker 6: pimple on my eye, like this, Philly still coming out
Speaker 6: for me. Connecticut is still coming out for me.
Speaker 9: I mean the Midwest be pretty strong.
Speaker 1: Shah, that's crazy.
Speaker 8: They be pretty strong for the kid. You know, the
Speaker 8: Yorkers are given. Connecticut is a given, like the East
Speaker 8: Coast pocket like that, like that, like it's it's it
Speaker 8: gets tricky when you star going to the West Coast
Speaker 8: and you know, the music is different out there, and
Speaker 8: if you don't got no hits that they couldn't know
Speaker 8: because they was on the radio and everybody know, then
Speaker 8: it's like you just rapping and looking at you like yeah,
Speaker 8: all right, so you gotta I gotta do a whole show.
Speaker 1: And I might have five or six songs that everybody know,
Speaker 1: but I got to do fifteen songs for the rest
Speaker 1: of the fifty songs. They like, yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: what And I'm like yo, you look at but you're
Speaker 1: like yo, yo, put that reggae show I'll look at
Speaker 1: the crowd immediately going.
Speaker 8: To crowd participation like a motherfucker show.
Speaker 1: You still got the hottest records of wherever you at
Speaker 1: that you can playing ship like that, get the vacuum,
Speaker 1: so you know, but it is it's the road, man,
Speaker 1: You know how the road is. Man.
Speaker 4: I think the new generation got the worst because they
Speaker 4: just like they dis like them for a minute, booms over.
Speaker 1: They want to hear the next new ship. You know.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I listened.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I ain't gonna lie. My my son took me to.
Speaker 8: A concert with an artist by the name of Lucky
Speaker 8: from Chicago.
Speaker 9: You'll know who Lucky is from.
Speaker 1: Like we know because we want to be Lucky. I'm Lucky.
Speaker 8: Lucky is popping like uh he had to. I was
Speaker 8: forgot the name of the club that's off the West
Speaker 8: Side Highway. He had that ship ran wall of wall
Speaker 8: soul out. These kids were singing every word for world
Speaker 8: for the whole duration of.
Speaker 9: While he was up there, And I did not know
Speaker 9: who this kid was at all at all.
Speaker 8: Mine my son was asking me to go to this
Speaker 8: concert for months and they't like, you're gonna call me?
Speaker 9: I said, yeah, why not?
Speaker 8: Because I was curious to know who this kid was.
Speaker 8: When they went in there, boy, them kids was going crazy.
Speaker 8: I'm talking marsh Pitton going crazy singing that he words
Speaker 8: this ship bro. Like yo, bro, they got some of
Speaker 8: these young kids got their ship together. Like you know,
Speaker 8: we sot up in our ways, but not caught up
Speaker 8: in our ways.
Speaker 9: That's how we came up. We used to the radio, we.
Speaker 8: Used to we knowing what what the it is because
Speaker 8: we hear it all over them. Was like, nah, Like
Speaker 8: I watched a couple thousands of kids singing word for
Speaker 8: word records that I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: None of them.
Speaker 8: I'm telling I didn't know not one record that that
Speaker 8: kid was singing, and all the kids was wrapping world
Speaker 8: for work.
Speaker 1: I mean at that at that point, it's rocking if you.
Speaker 7: Like I didn't.
Speaker 8: I so like, like I went to my son's school
Speaker 8: and did parents teach to day one time years ago,
Speaker 8: and I was like, yo, who's your favorite rapper?
Speaker 9: It was like ex ex test on.
Speaker 1: I'm like this before you call him, That's what I'm like, Dave.
Speaker 9: This is before he got signed to a dealer like
Speaker 9: x X.
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 8: He was like, Dad, I'll tell you later, but it
Speaker 8: showed me the kid and ship like that, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: this is crazy, this this is the kid that's popping.
Speaker 8: A few months later, boris still a lot of It's
Speaker 8: just like when we were coming up. These kids are
Speaker 8: these kids of the whole this is this is Chris.
Speaker 8: I'm on the interview, were talking about XT you know,
Speaker 8: I'm talking on basically how these new artists got they
Speaker 8: think set the same way that we had.
Speaker 9: I think set well, we were coming.
Speaker 8: Up, we knew all the artists that was popping before
Speaker 8: they even got to the radio. We didn't have the Internet,
Speaker 8: but we had the mixtapes and it's how we were
Speaker 8: dictating who was the next who and we knew all
Speaker 8: the freestyles and things like that.
Speaker 9: And now it's the same way.
Speaker 8: But it's even in look, because they have access to
Speaker 8: the internet, had their own world that we really don't
Speaker 8: know too much about as much as we think we know.
Speaker 1: We're going through your disciography.
Speaker 6: One thing that I noticed is that's one thing that
Speaker 6: I really see is you make global music, Like you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. You don't make music that just
Speaker 6: sound like a New York artist. Is that something you
Speaker 6: did did on purpose, because like I hear West Coast influence,
Speaker 6: and another another thing I hear, damn, and another thing
Speaker 6: I hear, yeah, right, another thing I hear.
Speaker 1: And the music is you sampled? Like how could you
Speaker 1: be independent as sample? Because that's expensive. I was counting.
Speaker 7: I was kind.
Speaker 1: Like, yo got, I was like, I was counting the
Speaker 1: money up.
Speaker 6: I was like this, nigga been paying a lot. You
Speaker 6: get a lot of money, moneigga. But that's what's the
Speaker 6: two part question. One part is do you make music
Speaker 6: sound global on purpose? And then and then the sample thing.
Speaker 6: I'm very curious, well the music, I mean, I don't
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's global music.
Speaker 1: But I make music for.
Speaker 9: Every hood. All the hoods are light that we come from.
Speaker 8: We all come from the blotty, we all come from
Speaker 8: facing adversity. We all came on hustling trying to make
Speaker 8: a dillar back against the wall. And this is the
Speaker 8: music that I make for all of us. So if
Speaker 8: you in California, you're gonna under standing. You're gonna feel
Speaker 8: what I'm talking about because you've been do the same
Speaker 8: thing where you don't have no food in the fridge
Speaker 8: and you had to figure out how to eat at night,
Speaker 8: and you might have brothers and sisters that you got
Speaker 8: to fend for and things like that. Like you want
Speaker 8: to hear all of that in my music. Shore you're
Speaker 8: from Memphis, you're gonna feel that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 8: it don't matter where you're from, You're gonna feel what
Speaker 8: I'm talking about. And if you're from Harlem, You're gonna
Speaker 8: totally understand what I'm talking about because I'm talking about
Speaker 8: all the things that I've been through coming up in
Speaker 8: my in my hood, in my neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 6: One thing I want to ask you the sample part,
Speaker 6: because you've been Yeah.
Speaker 13: I've had I've had some sample issues in the past.
Speaker 8: Samples is a tricky thing, man, when it comes to
Speaker 8: doing music. Sometimes you go through the proper channels to
Speaker 8: get it done. Sometimes you go for it, you know
Speaker 8: what I mean. Especially as an independent artists, we have
Speaker 8: a little bit more leeway than all the signs to
Speaker 8: a major label has because a major label is gonna
Speaker 8: stop you dead in your tracks before you even play
Speaker 8: with that was artist is like you know a T shirt,
Speaker 8: go for a seasoned sister ship like that.
Speaker 9: Hold on one second, I'm going through a little bit. Okay,
Speaker 9: not nothing like that, but.
Speaker 1: Hell so another thing that you did.
Speaker 6: I remember at one point going independent was like I
Speaker 6: believe your fifty this ta it was like a graveyard.
Speaker 6: It was like, and you went to I believe it
Speaker 6: was one's cotch at the time, it wasn't even I
Speaker 6: believe you went to a cotch. You was the first
Speaker 6: person to make independent look sexy like you was like
Speaker 6: the first.
Speaker 1: Like I remember like everyone outing you at first, and
Speaker 1: then and then everyone saying I think I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: independent like Jim Jones. Everyone trying to followed your way.
Speaker 1: Poem that went crazy and they can't pay you enough.
Speaker 1: Oh well, what was the I thought that that was
Speaker 1: the the poem when I did.
Speaker 8: When I did a poem, I wanted, I wanted to
Speaker 8: renegotiate for a few millions, and Allen didn't want to
Speaker 8: give me.
Speaker 1: What I wanted.
Speaker 9: But yeah, but going independent was like like my, I
Speaker 9: was like, my, that was the only option that was.
Speaker 8: But I learned about the independence for being in Houston,
Speaker 8: I was flipping them a little flip. I had the
Speaker 8: opportunity to actually be in Houston for a couple of years,
Speaker 8: had a club.
Speaker 9: Out there and all that.
Speaker 8: And while I was out there, I was watching how
Speaker 8: they was flipping all this independent music and they was
Speaker 8: real independent, like going from the ground with going into
Speaker 8: these Mama pop stares and selling them uh CDs out
Speaker 8: the trunks and things like that. And when coming back
Speaker 8: is when it didn't match really started going and Cam
Speaker 8: got the deal. Then Cam got the deal for Jewels,
Speaker 8: and then I was like, uh, asked Dame for like
Speaker 8: a million dollars. I felt I was worth it because
Speaker 8: at that time I was doing directly marketing.
Speaker 1: I was doing you Got One record Now. I wasn't
Speaker 1: just going off with just me rap.
Speaker 8: I was going on for everything that I was bringing
Speaker 8: to the table that they didn't have no artists that
Speaker 8: could do what I did at that time pretty much
Speaker 8: in the industry, Like I was engineering, recording my own
Speaker 8: music and CAM music. I was directing all of the video,
Speaker 8: I was doing all the marketing. Def Jam was paying
Speaker 8: me a consultant check like I had for me. I
Speaker 8: had the game in the choke hold because I knew
Speaker 8: I was doing things that no artists was thinking about
Speaker 8: doing at the time, not to say that they couldn't
Speaker 8: do it, saying it was just like this was not
Speaker 8: thought of by artist, Like this was not done. Like,
Speaker 8: no way that I'm going to direct my own video.
Speaker 8: Now I need to get next to the directord video.
Speaker 8: I was like, nah shitting me, cam, let me direct
Speaker 8: this video.
Speaker 9: You know how you gonna do it.
Speaker 8: I'm like, we're gonna hire one of them other directors
Speaker 8: and we're gonna make him my whole director, and I'm
Speaker 8: gonna learn from him, and then we're gonna start directing.
Speaker 1: All of ut Old Boy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, my first was my was my first video, and
Speaker 8: that was the first video lesson I learned. I think
Speaker 8: the video was like one hundred sixty thousand dollars. I
Speaker 8: probably made like six thousand dollars. And then I heard
Speaker 8: the video the director that had helped me with it
Speaker 8: made like sixty thousand dollars. I was my first lesson
Speaker 8: in production how to get.
Speaker 1: Like five hundred thousand Homeboy, I got jerked. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the dips that most played records too, right,
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, old Boys one of the biggest difference.
Speaker 9: She just said, playing records like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 6: We had Old Boy and I had Homeboy, but it
Speaker 6: was called nothing and every night we were just going
Speaker 6: to pay in full tour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of that was one of my
Speaker 1: greatest memories. And that's what that was. Also when when
Speaker 1: you first kind of like became blood and I don't
Speaker 1: know if you was when you was flagging though, And
Speaker 1: I remember we were going to like Chicago and places.
Speaker 1: People was like this niggas ran blood, Like holy moly,
Speaker 1: GUACAMOI but I remember I remember Homeboy my record. I
Speaker 1: don't know because we did it twice. We we did
Speaker 1: it with the records, and then we did it paid.
Speaker 2: In fall toll.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's what we can't.
Speaker 7: We can't, that's what.
Speaker 1: And then we was on the road with my light
Speaker 1: in the beginning, in the very beginning. Damn, I go back,
Speaker 1: I go back. You know what's crazy? Body was there
Speaker 1: for half of them on the other side of the room.
Speaker 1: I wish people. I remember one time. I remember one
Speaker 1: time he was on the road and I knew the
Speaker 1: promoter had the money. I read and I remember saying,
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. I was like, I know
Speaker 1: this nigga ran out of money.
Speaker 2: You can look at it.
Speaker 1: You can look at the person's face and you know
Speaker 1: he ain't got it, like because he wants you to
Speaker 1: feel sorry for him, like if once you want what's
Speaker 1: the what's to look at you like you, oh, you
Speaker 1: know how it is, get then out of here.
Speaker 9: We held niggas.
Speaker 1: We need this back and.
Speaker 2: We will we go.
Speaker 1: Somebody got.
Speaker 7: Like I don't care, we don't about that back and
Speaker 7: king and you come.
Speaker 6: Back with the back there like what his was crazy?
Speaker 6: You already count that money, like counting.
Speaker 1: This for mister Lee's out there having the second.
Speaker 8: Ship, your.
Speaker 6: Promoting almost even worse though, when they'd be like, I'll
Speaker 6: split it with you at the door, I don't want
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 1: See, I can't do nod he.
Speaker 6: Left seventy five people or your people, and it's like, yo, Papa,
Speaker 6: that's your fault, your friend.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: Being on that road is the craziest thing when you
Speaker 8: sometimes you just know it's like, oh, man, I hope
Speaker 8: they got my make.
Speaker 7: This a little and I need this back and it's
Speaker 7: gonna be a big problem with this money. Bro.
Speaker 5: Speaking of being on the road, like I remember used
Speaker 5: to do the Day and the Life Ship, you know,
Speaker 5: and just film you know, day to day different shows
Speaker 5: and all that, like, what made you stop that?
Speaker 8: It's just it was a lot of I was just
Speaker 8: it was a lot going on. I like to start
Speaker 8: going in different ways and ship like that. Some of
Speaker 8: that ship I couldn't film, and ship I was able
Speaker 8: to film it anymore. To begin, it was fun I
Speaker 8: was having But do.
Speaker 1: You think you bring that back original love and hip Hop?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I aint it was Jim and hip hop. It
Speaker 1: was He started to document your life. I made I
Speaker 1: made documented this on film. Yeah, Chris, that's my show.
Speaker 1: I just at the time, it's just no life.
Speaker 8: Man. I had opportunity to take control of the show
Speaker 8: and be on the same level that Mona was.
Speaker 9: But a lot of things were going on with Chris.
Speaker 8: He wasn't willing to compromise our diggingity just to get
Speaker 8: a part of something that was already I was already
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And we were able to let that go. They hired
Speaker 1: me back this season. I never got it.
Speaker 9: I never got to thank you from nobody from Love
Speaker 9: of hip Hop.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank you. How about that? Because I.
Speaker 6: And then this season you got to give you we
Speaker 6: gotta have a pay cut. I said, well, I get
Speaker 6: a pay not show.
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, but I liked it. I didn't
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, but so what was it? At first? Mona
Speaker 1: just came inside, I want to film you. No, she
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. Mona wasn't even involved
Speaker 1: in the beginning. It wasn't my show. Was a dude.
Speaker 1: Jim Acumen, he was following.
Speaker 9: He was the head of v H one.
Speaker 1: He's been trying to do a show with me for
Speaker 1: a minute, and Christy wanted to.
Speaker 9: Do some reality show. It didn't go through. I was like,
Speaker 9: I got this guy.
Speaker 8: I'm going to see if we could do something revolved
Speaker 8: around our dynamic of a relationship went down there. Talked
Speaker 8: to Jim Acumen. He like, ship, let's run it. What
Speaker 8: we're gonna call it?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 9: Christy and Emily came up with the name Love and
Speaker 9: hip Hop.
Speaker 1: Went back up.
Speaker 9: We don't call it love and hip Hop crazy.
Speaker 1: Crazy? So it went it went like Yandy.
Speaker 8: Yandy at the time was doing management for me. At
Speaker 8: the time, I had Yanny from from Mona and she
Speaker 8: was working directly for me. So at the time I
Speaker 8: was at the time, I was I wasn't really doing
Speaker 8: those shows enough for so Yandy opportunity to go on
Speaker 8: the road with Missy Elliott to make some money and
Speaker 8: ship like that. I was like ship, she like, Mona
Speaker 8: gonna be in the office, so she gonna help me
Speaker 8: out with your day to day and ship like that,
Speaker 8: and you ain't and I'm just going to I'm go
Speaker 8: on the road to make some money. Cool, yeah, get
Speaker 8: the back. I wasn't doing that at the time. So
Speaker 8: when I went to a VH one, Uh.
Speaker 1: You got the light, I don't got the Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is his lighter. Yeah already.
Speaker 8: So when I went to the VH one, meaning Mona
Speaker 8: was was with me at the VH one meeting, so
Speaker 8: she in I ain't finished. I didn't finish that. Mona
Speaker 8: went in the meeting as management and left out the
Speaker 8: producer because she knew what I didn't, and she didn't
Speaker 8: put me on the game. And that was the most
Speaker 8: thing that I was mad about with Mona, just gonna
Speaker 8: put you on.
Speaker 1: My whole idea that.
Speaker 8: One down the line everything I need to do at
Speaker 8: that time, like you need to get all of this
Speaker 8: because this is your show. Instead she taking them on
Speaker 8: herself to slipping there and that problem, and that's what
Speaker 8: that was the reason why he did.
Speaker 1: Y'all talked about it since then.
Speaker 9: I mean, that's I've been over there. That's that's what that's.
Speaker 1: Definitely been. But thank you. Because he's not Spade approved,
Speaker 1: he can't he can't drink. You had a question.
Speaker 4: But what I was going to say is that people
Speaker 4: don't realize how much of a great executive music executs
Speaker 4: grown from Asylum to E one to a coch to
Speaker 4: Manakey to what you're doing with all these artists to
Speaker 4: bring him back burd Gang. People don't realize how great
Speaker 4: of an music executive you are.
Speaker 1: Broke that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you for that music. I love music. For
Speaker 9: me to pick music and kind of like see a
Speaker 9: start coming I could.
Speaker 8: I'm good. I'm good at that. I do that with
Speaker 8: my osclos and things like that. And I like to
Speaker 8: help people get on that. It's been always my knacking
Speaker 8: life and things like that. I always like to give
Speaker 8: and ship like that more than I like to take.
Speaker 8: And I got to take a lot in life. So
Speaker 8: this means giving back and trying to keep put other
Speaker 8: people on and so they could get on my level
Speaker 8: on a higher level and ship like that.
Speaker 9: I've always been about that and the way I get
Speaker 9: to do it is doudent music.
Speaker 8: And y'all seen from when we started with Wells to
Speaker 8: the max Is to so many other artists and like that,
Speaker 8: from the hell Reils to.
Speaker 1: Forty cal that please move forward.
Speaker 9: Is a real big reason.
Speaker 8: For me to really get back into my executive bag
Speaker 8: the way I have been in the last few years.
Speaker 8: And things like that, Like he's real adamant about coming
Speaker 8: to me and doing this burg Gag album and bringing
Speaker 8: back burg Game back out and things like that. And
Speaker 8: then I have a bunch of group of talented individuals
Speaker 8: that I believe in wholeheartedly and I can't and we're
Speaker 8: starting to put the music out and I can't wait
Speaker 8: for people to really start to get a little of
Speaker 8: all these orders that I have working under VL and
Speaker 8: things like that. Doing this, like I said, you wanted
Speaker 8: the hardest working man, yo.
Speaker 5: I see it's like the pandemic. You let me put
Speaker 5: me in like three hundred features. Like now now I
Speaker 5: want to say this to you, right. You see how
Speaker 5: the beginning when he said Meek didn't want to do
Speaker 5: the verse because he was on hold. He was like,
Speaker 5: you know, I want to be on whole status. So
Speaker 5: he was trying to whole his value. I guess, you know,
Speaker 5: to a certain standing. But you, on the other hand,
Speaker 5: you went.
Speaker 1: To the streets. You went back to the streets, but
Speaker 1: we wasn't allowed to come outside. You went out and
Speaker 1: took every feature from every nigga. He must have called
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen times. It took the back you went outside
Speaker 1: every time that was with me cod.
Speaker 9: I called COVID acting versus after the verses.
Speaker 1: That was the only everything that night that.
Speaker 9: I couldn't win enough.
Speaker 5: But but you went hard in the in the pandemic,
Speaker 5: and I feel like, you know, put you back.
Speaker 1: To where you needed to be.
Speaker 9: Now, I ain't gonna lie about me by doing that.
Speaker 8: Definitely put me visibly all over because I did so
Speaker 8: many features, like you said, didn't like three hundred features
Speaker 8: in and it.
Speaker 1: Was lucrative, and you was doing the videos too.
Speaker 2: It was bad.
Speaker 9: I figured out the loop, of course, See that was it.
Speaker 8: I figured out how the quarantine studio shouts. The quarantine
Speaker 8: studio works with me over there shouts to drop TV. Uh,
Speaker 8: we got things studio, got some things coming back?
Speaker 7: Are you doing that?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 6: Both hold hold on talking them that hold on just
Speaker 6: talking about the lucrative videos, so we.
Speaker 8: Didn't figure out the quarantine studio and what quantity studios.
Speaker 8: I figured out how to record virtually in real time,
Speaker 8: like at leasting my latencies that you can. So I
Speaker 8: was able to do music in my house with the
Speaker 8: artists and were all in the session virtually and it out.
Speaker 8: And I don't have no didn't have to have an
Speaker 8: engineer in my house. My engineer was at his house.
Speaker 8: So I figured that out and I was able to features.
Speaker 8: I created Quarantine music the side where all the artists where.
Speaker 8: Now you could pay me to do your features and
Speaker 8: things like that, and me and Poe this man the
Speaker 8: d M, and Poe was calling everybody to call the
Speaker 8: d M, and we were taking features from four thousand
Speaker 8: and five thousand and six thousand and seven thousand, thirty
Speaker 8: five hundred because it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Nobody was moving.
Speaker 8: It was a separated and the video is a separate
Speaker 8: but so it was. It was nobody moving at the time.
Speaker 8: Nobody can go to studio, nobody's making money. So I'm
Speaker 8: in my house, in my basement making thirty five thousand
Speaker 8: before the Night is out, four features. I wasn't kidd
Speaker 8: I was adding that ship up so before.
Speaker 1: The week allegedly just case irs listening elegendly allegedly allegedly
Speaker 1: a lot of it is all promo.
Speaker 8: It was as it was a Lucas side, just be
Speaker 8: able to tap into that market without having to go outside,
Speaker 8: and that in turn turned into me being all over YouTube.
Speaker 9: All of these kids learning this music and the videos.
Speaker 8: And Jones out and that helped brand puffing with all
Speaker 8: the younger generations.
Speaker 1: Things like that.
Speaker 6: Like so let me ask you because because a lot
Speaker 6: of people don't know, like Wa Kwan taught me that
Speaker 6: that you know, a feature is one price, the video
Speaker 6: is another price. Right when I was out, I didn't
Speaker 6: have Instagram. So so when you do a feature and
Speaker 6: a video for a person, do you charge him separate
Speaker 6: for a post or you look out, okay.
Speaker 9: If you if you, if you pay me for the
Speaker 9: video in the verse, I'm gonna post it, You're gonna
Speaker 9: post it, ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't that type of nigga. I ain't gonna try
Speaker 1: to take I mean like, yeah, that's where people know that.
Speaker 8: So so now all of the package though that we
Speaker 8: were when we were doing the features, that was.
Speaker 1: Part of the package.
Speaker 9: We're gonna we're gonna post it up and ship like that.
Speaker 1: How much is the verse now, Jim yesterday?
Speaker 2: How much.
Speaker 1: Listen to me?
Speaker 8: Listen, listen to me, like I got a ticket right
Speaker 8: let's just say I got a ticket.
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna say now ship like that.
Speaker 8: But if a nigga called me right now and my
Speaker 8: man want to feature it, yo, he want to feature
Speaker 8: right now?
Speaker 9: How much money you got right now, right now?
Speaker 1: You know he got eighty two hundred run it running.
Speaker 7: Right there?
Speaker 1: You got you got that right now, right there, right there.
Speaker 8: Right there, you heard, and that's and that's still like
Speaker 8: more PC than you would ever get off for any brick.
Speaker 9: You was so outside of ship, like you know what
Speaker 9: you gotta do?
Speaker 1: You know where I killed the mat? And this was
Speaker 1: years ago Europe because day paying top dollar to dollar man.
Speaker 14: And it depends because and hold on, let me say,
Speaker 14: don't think y'all could call me like like y'all, it's
Speaker 14: not gonna work like that, buddy.
Speaker 1: To get something to get that cool just can't have it.
Speaker 1: But it's just a hustle of mentality.
Speaker 8: That having me and ship like that, you think, like
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to let dollar slide down. I feel
Speaker 8: like Ross is like that I need I need to
Speaker 8: get that money, Like why not hear I did this
Speaker 8: music so I can't make this money. Nuts for me
Speaker 8: to term my face my nose up and not take
Speaker 8: the money, it's crazy. Associated with Jim Jones, give it
Speaker 8: to that you did like you want to ling to this,
Speaker 8: Come on, I need you. Now you have another person
Speaker 8: who's going to shoot lobby for you.
Speaker 7: And all you do music and things like that.
Speaker 8: You just invited them into your circle, whether they paid
Speaker 8: for a feature or not, and now they part of
Speaker 8: you did your networking.
Speaker 6: You know what I've seen for what it did for you,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, was it made you more grounded. It
Speaker 6: made everyone feel like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: I could get at Jim Jones. And it made people
Speaker 6: because these artists that you were working with like they appreciated.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They appreciated. Yeah, it made you.
Speaker 6: See when it made you seem humble, but it made
Speaker 6: you seem connected, you know what I'm saying, Because I
Speaker 6: felt like every artist that you did it with was
Speaker 6: appreciated and it was just like I felt like those
Speaker 6: dudes would killed somebody for you make I mean.
Speaker 7: I hope not.
Speaker 8: I'd rather your lobby, but like like I've been in
Speaker 8: the position of each one of those artists, and I
Speaker 8: know how I feel to be on that side of
Speaker 8: the fence when you can't get a feature. I remember
Speaker 8: me rapping for your Gotti, I mean you Gotti in.
Speaker 1: His office when uh murdered. Inku was in death Jam
Speaker 1: and all in death Jam.
Speaker 8: Trying to get a deal and ship right, and everybody
Speaker 8: looking at me like I'm crazy, like when you're looking
Speaker 8: for the opportunity and ship like that. And this is
Speaker 8: even when I was with camming them, so it was
Speaker 8: like I was already in position to do certain things.
Speaker 8: But as an artist, you're looking for certain opportunities and
Speaker 8: certain help. And you know, if I get a feature
Speaker 8: with this dude, that'd be one level up that I
Speaker 8: could get. And nobody wasn't handling that to me at all.
Speaker 8: I remember all my features was canned. As you wells
Speaker 8: thinking about that you heard like that was enough, it was,
Speaker 8: but as being a part of the game and you
Speaker 8: you want to the artist, Maya and like you did,
Speaker 8: I think that Nigga, like, oh I need you dig
Speaker 8: like you so imagine the artists coming up and trying
Speaker 8: to just get so thinking about all that ship and
Speaker 8: he got some money.
Speaker 9: Ship, come on, come on with I remember I called.
Speaker 1: You one time for a feature for my man this
Speaker 1: ship or whatever. He was like, yo, he was like listen, y'all,
Speaker 1: if you I would have did it for that. Give
Speaker 1: me three more. Brought that at three to that what
Speaker 1: you said, he ain't just taking anything.
Speaker 6: Let me let me let me say something about you,
Speaker 6: because like I've seen you come up like obviously I didn't.
Speaker 6: We didn't grow up together, but we grew up in
Speaker 6: hip hop talking about it.
Speaker 1: The father babes. He's been to my project.
Speaker 8: He didn't come to my project base that me and
Speaker 8: Kim getting used to living.
Speaker 9: With my grandma past. He was, he's from.
Speaker 6: Let me because let me just give you a flowers
Speaker 6: like I've seen you grow into executive, a hustler like
Speaker 6: you was at like I maya people like I, My
Speaker 6: people like Tony yo, yo, I my people like Memphis
Speaker 6: bleak Imma, people who stayed down. But but to see
Speaker 6: to see where you come from, like I said at
Speaker 6: one at one point, you know, I was filming a
Speaker 6: documentary we called what what.
Speaker 1: I did not know what I was doing.
Speaker 6: This actually the pre pre cruel to just to drink champs.
Speaker 6: So I I only called the people that I could
Speaker 6: call for that day. And it's funny as fuck. The
Speaker 6: three people that I could call was Cam, Memph, Bleak
Speaker 6: and fifty Cent. So the crazy shit was my dumb
Speaker 6: ass forgot that these niggas.
Speaker 1: Ain't getting along.
Speaker 7: I said, holy shit.
Speaker 1: So I had to have Bleak on one.
Speaker 6: Side, interview Caim, make sure Cam is do the building,
Speaker 6: and had fifty sent downstairs. I swear to God and
Speaker 6: I got it all on tape. But this is something
Speaker 6: that you said. He was like, Yo, man, these niggas
Speaker 6: be spending. He said, man, I spent five I spent
Speaker 6: I get five downs for I get five Nichols for
Speaker 6: twenty bucks. And I was like, and you had on
Speaker 6: when you had army fatigue fants And I looked and
Speaker 6: I was like, this, this is the grimmiest nigga from
Speaker 6: dip sep.
Speaker 1: He's the one. He's the one.
Speaker 6: And by the way, that was flyg because that's what
Speaker 6: we were smoking at the time of the twenties and fifties.
Speaker 6: Like niggas wasn't a hundred dollars bag niggas.
Speaker 1: Niggas wasn't also niggas.
Speaker 7: We all nigative, but we all had a beginning done
Speaker 7: this type of it wasn't it was.
Speaker 1: It was brown bags.
Speaker 6: And I say that to say, there's so many people
Speaker 6: that don't stay down. There's so many people that jump
Speaker 6: ship when they see that the Titanic is coming, they jump.
Speaker 1: Ship and they'll go do it with some ship. You
Speaker 1: stayed down. You stayed the niggas playing. We was yes
Speaker 1: a ship that music to that ship. One damn man,
Speaker 1: you listen to me.
Speaker 6: You for every dipset battle, everything, everything that had to
Speaker 6: do with your crew, you was front line.
Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you you deserve. You deserve.
Speaker 6: You deserve to get me your competit cures and manicures
Speaker 6: in Miami Beach and retire.
Speaker 9: I'm glad, man, I'm glad that's here with me too.
Speaker 8: I'm glad you know, I know has been with me
Speaker 8: since I'm met Zeke when I was like nine years old.
Speaker 9: Wow, you digg and then we ended.
Speaker 8: I go to my first day he first Yeah, I
Speaker 8: met Zeke when I was nine. Nigga fought brings summer
Speaker 8: shame stilling, bitches, tokens and ship and then after that,
Speaker 8: I ain't see Zeg and then I get to high school.
Speaker 8: My first day of high school, I get to my locker.
Speaker 8: My shit is Jones and his ship is Jiles, and
Speaker 8: I'm opening the locker and this niggas did make get
Speaker 8: the fuck up. So since since ninth grade, Zeke's been
Speaker 8: with each other since the age of fourteen and shit
Speaker 8: like that, and we've been through every single thing that
Speaker 8: you could imagine. So when Cam and them start coming
Speaker 8: to my house and doing music, he lived on the
Speaker 8: East Side. But now we like seventeen eighteen, niggas has grown,
Speaker 8: Ziggs doing his own things, ship like that, and we're
Speaker 8: trying to figure out how to get ready to do
Speaker 8: this move.
Speaker 1: And I know to do this move, you got.
Speaker 8: To have some niggas that's ready to go as far
Speaker 8: as you can take it. And I'm like, one of
Speaker 8: the first niggas I told Cam was like, yo, we
Speaker 8: got to take zek with us.
Speaker 1: Wow, trust him. You heard like Sean Fast, Sean passed away.
Speaker 1: We passed away.
Speaker 9: Sean was one of the earlier ones.
Speaker 8: We grabbed a group of kids that we knew that
Speaker 8: had heart and we was ready to go against the world,
Speaker 8: and as we got in the game, we learned the game.
Speaker 8: So when I tell people that Rappers the most dangerous
Speaker 8: game in the world, they be like the most dangerous
Speaker 8: job in the world. They be looking at me like
Speaker 8: I'm crazy, But I really mean now that that's we're
Speaker 8: the biggest target in the world.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people missed, understand you, comparing
Speaker 5: it to like venates in that even army members, you
Speaker 5: know who the enemy is.
Speaker 1: You know who your enemy is. You don't know who
Speaker 1: know who.
Speaker 8: You know what you're expecting at home, right, whatever you
Speaker 8: feel not taking nothing away from.
Speaker 1: Taking that's in the army, military wavy. I know that
Speaker 1: ship is dangerous.
Speaker 8: I'm not in the army, but we are outside and
Speaker 8: we're dealing with people that we don't know who nobody is,
Speaker 8: but everybody do know who he is. Rappitsmen dying at
Speaker 8: an alarming rate in the past ten years.
Speaker 9: Right, there was a time when there.
Speaker 1: Was only Scotland Rock that had got killed. Right in
Speaker 1: my life, yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 8: We didn't hear about no rappers getting killed.
Speaker 1: Trying to think.
Speaker 8: Like Scotland Rock got killed. Now with the last rapper
Speaker 8: you heard getting killed for.
Speaker 1: Locking big and tooling big. And then and then it
Speaker 1: didn't stopped after that. It stopped after that, and then
Speaker 1: it just.
Speaker 6: Got because you know what it is a lot of
Speaker 6: people want to because see, at one point, rappers was corny.
Speaker 6: The drug dealers was the niggas were drug. Rappers became
Speaker 6: the drug dealers. Rappers became the new drug Like, we're
Speaker 6: the new drug dealers. So when we started, when they
Speaker 6: started to learn that, oh ship, it's not corny having money,
Speaker 6: it's not corny switching every rose voice, every time the
Speaker 6: rose voice cames up, Oh it's not corny not getting
Speaker 6: going to jail.
Speaker 1: It's not corny taking care of your family. Didn't.
Speaker 6: Didn't the motherfuckers they want to take our life. Really,
Speaker 6: what they wanted to do was just take our success
Speaker 6: and say give me your success and give.
Speaker 1: Me everything you worked for.
Speaker 6: And when they realized, holy ship, then they tried. What
Speaker 6: they try to do is they try to put on rappers.
Speaker 6: So they'll go to the hood to say, yo, let
Speaker 6: me put on buddy.
Speaker 1: But he don't.
Speaker 6: He ain't got no love for it. He just getting
Speaker 6: this to get the bread, to get the bread. So
Speaker 6: they put on the worst little nigga. He fly, He
Speaker 6: got on a Mary Jeans, but he.
Speaker 1: Sucks, so now he doesn't make it. Now they hate
Speaker 1: that's even more.
Speaker 6: Do you understand what I'm saying my describing scenario now,
Speaker 6: So when you said that, I don't know if you
Speaker 6: know when you said that, soon as you said rappers
Speaker 6: the most dangerous job, and I see people you're giving
Speaker 6: you a backlash. I got on this show and I said,
Speaker 6: Jim Jones is absolutely correct.
Speaker 8: You got nothing put It's not I'm just saying, you
Speaker 8: even got to watch the closest people that's next to
Speaker 8: you when you're in this position, more successful.
Speaker 9: Anything, You know what I mean?
Speaker 8: And this is this is how I learned how to
Speaker 8: eliminate a lot of people that I've lost a lot
Speaker 8: of friends and eliminated a lot.
Speaker 9: Of people that were close to me do to certain
Speaker 9: things of things like that.
Speaker 8: And now if you don't have a purpose to be
Speaker 8: around me, and I don't see a way that you
Speaker 8: can get from being around me, that I'm not going
Speaker 8: to have you around me.
Speaker 9: And that has nothing to do with my friends.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of friends want to come to
Speaker 1: this business and ship like that.
Speaker 9: It's not like it used to be. Thirty didn't turn
Speaker 9: the two, you know what I mean, Like shit changes.
Speaker 8: You learn a lot as you're moving and ship like that,
Speaker 8: and you know, everybody can't go and I ain't got
Speaker 8: the pot for everybody to live like I'm living and
Speaker 8: sh like that you did. And a lot of people
Speaker 8: don't know what opportunity is. They don't know how to
Speaker 8: get money. And that's that's one of the things that
Speaker 8: rappers go through a lot, is that we put in
Speaker 8: a position to help a lot of people.
Speaker 9: A lot of people don't know how to take that
Speaker 9: help and use it.
Speaker 1: For themselves, except that's we've made some lays for that.
Speaker 5: That's one thing he always told us, like Smoke Champs,
Speaker 5: you know, before he's even smoke Champs just you know,
Speaker 5: I'm as nephew thess niggas And he just told like, yo, listen, man,
Speaker 5: any opportunity, any chance you get to use me, use me.
Speaker 5: So ill to be used, he said, I don't abuse me,
Speaker 5: but use me, use me anytime you can make something happen.
Speaker 8: Hundred percent, I tell him. Artist, we have we have
Speaker 8: what we call tail meetings, like every three weeks a
Speaker 8: month inside the studio and ship like that, and the
Speaker 8: flaws is flaws for everybody to talk about what they
Speaker 8: don't like, what they do, like, well, we're not doing
Speaker 8: what we should be doing.
Speaker 9: However it comes and ship like that and you digging.
Speaker 8: And one thing that I tell them is listen, we
Speaker 8: in a position to do a lot, and I can't
Speaker 8: do everything, but opportunity is in front of you. You
Speaker 8: got to learn how to use me to your benefit.
Speaker 8: Not no fun up way, but use me where it's
Speaker 8: gonna benefit you and benefit us.
Speaker 9: That's what I'm here for, to be used in that manner.
Speaker 1: Ship like that.
Speaker 9: So you're absolutely right. Some people get in a lot
Speaker 9: of people don't.
Speaker 1: Somebody don't get it. A lot of people, a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't understand.
Speaker 5: Even with like you know, us having a nigga like
Speaker 5: you know already in the game, where your crew having
Speaker 5: you all already in the game, it doesn't always work either.
Speaker 1: You can't get mad at the top rolling the dice.
Speaker 1: It's like the entertainment period.
Speaker 9: You might roll a two or two winning the game
Speaker 9: on for deuce.
Speaker 8: You gonna roller as it might not. This might not
Speaker 8: be the thing for you, This might not It might
Speaker 8: not work for you. You might give it you. Oh,
Speaker 8: you might have the most dopest marketing strategy. You might
Speaker 8: have a bag on your big joey, and it still might.
Speaker 1: Not work for you. He did, like I knew this dude,
Speaker 1: my man, my man, his name is to and started
Speaker 1: a record label. Right, this, this is how fucked up times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I started the record label. I said, so, so, what're
Speaker 1: you gonna do? He said, I got the houses, I
Speaker 1: got the cars, and I got the jewelry. The nigga
Speaker 1: had no artists.
Speaker 9: That this is how it's to be making. Look for people.
Speaker 8: They look at us living, they think, oh, I got
Speaker 8: you did, But they don't understand in the hallwork that
Speaker 8: we got to put in night out, like the long day,
Speaker 8: the longer nights. You heard, the flights we gotta take,
Speaker 8: the mornings. We got to get up the drink champs.
Speaker 6: You gotta a lot of people don't understand the whole
Speaker 6: whole report album. I did on the train. I never
Speaker 6: even took a taxi. I couldn't afford it.
Speaker 1: When I they told me you gotta stop hustling, I
Speaker 1: literally stopped hustling. L A l A came out and
Speaker 1: I was like fuck it.
Speaker 6: I had to get to Unique Studios and d n
Speaker 6: D studios and most of the time I got on
Speaker 6: the motherfucking our train.
Speaker 1: Bro World up, World Up, sacrifice No more.
Speaker 9: They skip, They skipping all that right now straight.
Speaker 1: Like I Spiceman from when the record Straight to the Moon,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go shout out to the females.
Speaker 8: Females want I want to ask you A lot of
Speaker 8: females is kicking ass.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I want to ask you this, Like, so
Speaker 5: you see how the game is, it's now farst like
Speaker 5: we just said, like a young nigga get a hit
Speaker 5: and they HiT's going to the moon because of all
Speaker 5: the out last.
Speaker 1: Time there is now Like what part of the game
Speaker 1: do you like the new game or the old game?
Speaker 9: Shit, I like the new game.
Speaker 7: I'm part.
Speaker 9: I'm part of what's going on. I needed. I need
Speaker 9: to be a part of the present.
Speaker 8: You heard the past was the past, and it was
Speaker 8: good when when it was there, but we're not there anymore.
Speaker 9: That's where a lot of older artists get caught up
Speaker 9: in this ship like that.
Speaker 8: Theyre caught up in their waist or I'm still going
Speaker 8: to put an album out. I want every two years
Speaker 8: and like Nigga, Nigga Drake is putting out three four
Speaker 8: albums a year. Nigga, you should be on your toes
Speaker 8: right now. It just show you the times are changing
Speaker 8: and you need to start bombing. Like So, that's one
Speaker 8: thing I always try to do, even from throughout my duration,
Speaker 8: is make sure I kept what was going on and
Speaker 8: be able to reinvent myself and stay in and stay
Speaker 8: relevant and ship like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: Like, if you don't do that, you don't get lost
Speaker 8: in the sauce fast, and you're gonna start looking crazy.
Speaker 5: So what's your what's your favorite what's your favorite time
Speaker 5: and hip hop?
Speaker 8: My favorite time in hip hop? My favorite time of
Speaker 8: life was the nineties, of course, always that was my
Speaker 8: favorite time in life. Ninety eight my favorite was just
Speaker 8: the soundtrack to that and then well you got ninety seven,
Speaker 8: ninety eight, ninety seven, you got nothing.
Speaker 6: Your kid was being Cam was on me, Cam DMXIC,
Speaker 6: Big Pun, No no masons before.
Speaker 15: That, Me, Cam, Me Cam Punks, I believe seven Corp.
Speaker 15: We were on fire, don't fight fire.
Speaker 1: Big money, big money, and we all loft the super Shaka. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never gave super Shaka.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: War, you know you ain't deserved.
Speaker 2: Con't turn shout out, Shaka.
Speaker 1: I really do mean it, but I don't mean.
Speaker 3: It to him.
Speaker 8: So so for the for the younger generation right now,
Speaker 8: because they like, they hardly know who all.
Speaker 9: They might see us because we're still on TV.
Speaker 1: Anythink I'm a podcaster.
Speaker 8: But they don't understand how much, how how how hot
Speaker 8: like when we bro, No, he was on.
Speaker 1: When you when You had to Buy, can't even.
Speaker 8: Name the type of fire he was on Bro. They
Speaker 8: was calling him the new tupacket. I remember one of
Speaker 8: them having our conversations about Nori and how he was getting.
Speaker 1: What he was doing.
Speaker 6: And I ain't gonna lot. I gave on his flowers.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest with you because me and Cam
Speaker 6: was friends. So what happened was I knew he could
Speaker 6: kind of like bully penalty, so I was trying to
Speaker 6: like steal me, but I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: He taught me a lot. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember the first timm of jam we did together.
Speaker 9: And came out and it almost killed yourself.
Speaker 1: I ain't know what pirol was back then. The friends,
Speaker 1: these niggas just fancy. I'm like, wait a minute, They're like, yo, boom,
Speaker 1: we fu that all up too much and tale I'm
Speaker 1: this is my first summer jam.
Speaker 6: So they was they're gonna hide unbullied, They're gonna have
Speaker 6: me go by myself. But they was like, funk that
Speaker 6: have him come out with Cam because we had the
Speaker 6: records together on fire so they're like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: So we did rehearse, but in the rehearsal they don't
Speaker 1: say nothing about no Pyro. Explain to the people was
Speaker 1: Pyro was a ship boom like the Mason Show.
Speaker 6: They bust in the only so they're like, yo, it
Speaker 6: goes TikTok and then boom and then you come out.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, you tell me this five minutes before
Speaker 6: I go on. So that's just said tik tik boom.
Speaker 6: The first one came out. Cam came out, that's just
Speaker 6: said tiktik boom. Charlie Baltimore came out. That's just said
Speaker 6: tick And I said, I was like, wait out the ticket.
Speaker 7: I said there, and I'm like, do I go out?
Speaker 1: I got chill and I went just like this and
Speaker 1: this is said bo. I was like, oh shit, my.
Speaker 6: My life flashed before my eyes. You understand, because that
Speaker 6: shit blew up and I didn't know it. And then
Speaker 6: I walked around it like I didn't even walk through it.
Speaker 1: I walked through and I performed like nothing happened the
Speaker 1: whole time. I can't hear ship. This is thirty thousand people.
Speaker 1: That's why I would never listen dip set y'all you.
Speaker 6: Cam Joel's freakysy Oh, y'all y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love y'all for life. My brother I really too.
Speaker 1: I really like that. Yeah. Really him up together, like
Speaker 1: like Uncle Wi is like really, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: We really came up, man, and it was a good time.
Speaker 1: It's a beauty.
Speaker 6: That's why I'm so proud of. Let me ask you
Speaker 6: before we get the quick time of Slim. Do you
Speaker 6: have the last Migos recorded record together?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last all p Takeoff.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just so baby boy.
Speaker 8: He was just a dope person, man, Like I had
Speaker 8: a great relationship with him. He would coming New York
Speaker 8: hit me you had on pull up, So you had.
Speaker 1: A relationship with take Off and here he hooked up the.
Speaker 8: Migos record, You do all of them. But I had
Speaker 8: a real strong me too, like I really take over
Speaker 8: see him all the time. He hit, he caught me,
Speaker 8: We're going to dinner all of this. So take Off
Speaker 8: was like my god like and he was a real
Speaker 8: fan of dips and I say, nobody else, but he
Speaker 8: would show it like, nah, we know all your we
Speaker 8: know everything you can talking about all the just it
Speaker 8: was just and it would just it would make me
Speaker 8: feel good to know that someone like take Off is
Speaker 8: giving me my flowers.
Speaker 1: And he's argument one of the biggest groups.
Speaker 9: And it's like you think not saying that it was,
Speaker 9: but it was like it.
Speaker 1: Was a good nigga man, Like that's a good nigga.
Speaker 8: He came to the studio and that like where you're
Speaker 8: at on like at the studio, like I'm pulling up.
Speaker 9: We're in the studio, like now we got to get
Speaker 9: one produce stuff playing like this it.
Speaker 1: This transit by the way, that record, by the way,
Speaker 1: it's hard.
Speaker 8: This hook and he did his verse and then I
Speaker 8: just did a verse and then I was like, nah,
Speaker 8: I got to come back and fix my ship to
Speaker 8: them all.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, he makes you go back.
Speaker 8: The whole ship is different, like it's not like a
Speaker 8: new York type like I started kind of wow, I
Speaker 8: got to tie you up.
Speaker 7: They came back the next day and did it.
Speaker 1: Then we put it on the gram off seting hit
Speaker 1: me wow, like no, I don't know what you're trying,
Speaker 1: but I need on.
Speaker 8: That the day so he's like, yo, pull up, I'm down,
Speaker 8: I'm i'm i'm, I'm in the studio. We go to
Speaker 8: the studio there and bugging down and ship like that.
Speaker 8: He ended up doing the record and ship like that.
Speaker 8: Then then they will hit me like, man, you got
Speaker 8: the tour, get show. So Quevo Paul was more Illo
Speaker 8: because Cevo did his verse and the video all in
Speaker 8: the same studio, all at the same time. So when
Speaker 8: I went to the studio, he did the verse, and
Speaker 8: right after verse, we shot the video right there Quada.
Speaker 7: Opened the door.
Speaker 1: They had the staircase with all the graffiti and all
Speaker 1: that right here everything.
Speaker 8: So his verse and video done all in like two hours,
Speaker 8: and then he had to get on the plane so
Speaker 8: I could did the video you that like that was
Speaker 8: and they did it separately and ship like that, but
Speaker 8: they all made sure they did they part like and
Speaker 8: takeoffs like now I'm coming to the block don't care
Speaker 8: what's going on. I'm coming to the block. I don't
Speaker 8: care what's going on. He pulled up to the block
Speaker 8: and he enjoyed hisself up that he.
Speaker 1: Had a ball.
Speaker 8: So that was one of the things he wanted to do.
Speaker 8: Like now, I got to come to all of them
Speaker 8: and check it out. And so the whole process and
Speaker 8: ship like that was yoga then And.
Speaker 1: Where was that record? Drop label?
Speaker 9: Empire, Empire Life Records, Slash.
Speaker 8: Empire Gazi and we'll see that one right shot of Gazi,
Speaker 8: you know, whole Empire family. You will see shot the
Speaker 8: video chapel will see shot.
Speaker 1: Ghazi, Nemo. Tina Davies just became David hit All. Yeah
Speaker 1: right now shot shots. Oh my god, definitely. I've seen
Speaker 1: him come over there and help Empire do a lot.
Speaker 9: Of different great gets went over kicked as she went
Speaker 9: over there and turns yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Ghazi Gauzi already had something great going on, like
Speaker 8: that shout of the guys. He helped change my life
Speaker 8: and helped he last in the game and things like that.
Speaker 8: I cannot I confront on Ghazi in no way, shape
Speaker 8: or for me like that. And the last ten years
Speaker 8: of my life as has been great thanks to Gazi.
Speaker 1: And would you put Ghazi over Alplin one hundred percent?
Speaker 1: Get me too, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8: I don't regret what I've been through that I may
Speaker 8: ball into some of my biggest it's with Allen and that,
Speaker 8: but his business Acremen is nowhere near to what Ghazi
Speaker 8: and how the way they move.
Speaker 1: With the Empire.
Speaker 7: That was the first place that I got to check
Speaker 7: for my music was from Empire.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean when they tell you're.
Speaker 8: Gonna get paid, you're gonna get you get paid, get paid.
Speaker 8: What they tell you're gonna get paid with percent is
Speaker 8: you negotiate with them. That's what it wasn't you know?
Speaker 8: I was pretty much the first major artist that Ghazi signed.
Speaker 8: And I can remember when y'all call me, yo, how
Speaker 8: Gazi is the same thing I tolde? Same thing I
Speaker 8: told that Joe is that they can pay on time,
Speaker 8: said be paying.
Speaker 1: I spoke to.
Speaker 8: The moment I say I put, I said, they asked
Speaker 8: me how, Yeah it is over there Empire and that
Speaker 8: sold on the same thing. They pay on time. I
Speaker 8: never got a check from no other music but they
Speaker 8: that was I didn't saying put anybody, Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 8: pay on time. That's been my whole thing when dealing
Speaker 8: with artists. And they asked me about ghazis like, bro,
Speaker 8: the business up there is and.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Strike up is what you're gonna
Speaker 1: give you. He's a great guy. You managed yourself for
Speaker 1: what you didn't negotiate you that's just that, you know,
Speaker 1: let's make some noise for Gazi and Davis, my product
Speaker 1: and the whole staff they hold staff I was, I
Speaker 1: was in I was out there the other day and
Speaker 1: I went to the label.
Speaker 6: And they walked me through it on the West coast
Speaker 6: in the Bay, Yeah, in the Bay, and they walked
Speaker 6: me through and then in front of the club. I
Speaker 6: didn't go to the club, but what they got they got.
Speaker 6: Go to the studio and he flipped on me for
Speaker 6: leaving my charge in the car charging the cars, so
Speaker 6: he showed me. I went to the studio. But the
Speaker 6: whole staff they got and where a lot of people
Speaker 6: don't know, there's a lot of this afrobeat music that
Speaker 6: you're listening to is independent. These that shit is independent.
Speaker 6: It's on the radios being played because afro music is
Speaker 6: so hot right now that you know it's slipping through the.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be on the major You don't
Speaker 1: have to spend.
Speaker 6: One hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred fifty thousand, and Ghzi.
Speaker 1: Is doing that. He got he got reggae thrown artists.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I was counting his money.
Speaker 7: I was like, man, you.
Speaker 8: Gotta really, we gotta people thank for the whole Bay
Speaker 8: area and the Oakley.
Speaker 1: Area because that's where it's independent. Depending independence man.
Speaker 9: Came from it and not taking nothing away from Houston.
Speaker 8: I don't know who started and ship like that, but
Speaker 8: I know in the Bay and in Oakland, young boy's
Speaker 8: been out there doing that independent thing for you for
Speaker 8: a long time. As you see, Gazi has turned that
Speaker 8: ship into a multi million dollar operation.
Speaker 6: Yeah we went to Edition. Yeah we went to the studio.
Speaker 6: They building a pool and that motherfucker.
Speaker 8: They all all forty You know what I mean, too short.
Speaker 8: I mean it's a lot of artists. I started out
Speaker 8: there from an independent lane for making a shipload of money,
Speaker 8: so you know, I.
Speaker 5: None in Then in the car I heard saying, you
Speaker 5: don't you don't get what you deserve, you give it,
Speaker 5: you negotiate.
Speaker 8: One hundred percent. That's a that's a true fact. So
Speaker 8: I hope you negotiate what you deserve the more you heard,
Speaker 8: because it's cold out here, and and sometimes I do
Speaker 8: I do deals with I don't get what I deserve,
Speaker 8: but I know what I'm I'm gonna take that and
Speaker 8: do with it and things like that.
Speaker 9: So you know, you gotta be smart when you approach
Speaker 9: the table.
Speaker 8: Every every dinner's gonna be different, even though it's the
Speaker 8: same dish you heard.
Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna do quick time of slim. We're
Speaker 6: gonna just play in the game real quick. The fact
Speaker 6: is we we we said we're not gonna drink hard liquor,
Speaker 6: so we're gonna do shots a champagne.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, Jamie, you ready with Jamie, We'll see
Speaker 1: in the building. God damn from everybody from Instagram? What's
Speaker 1: my man name?
Speaker 7: Rights?
Speaker 1: In the building?
Speaker 7: Got it's my birthday weekend.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to celebrate.
Speaker 8: I got all my artists down here in Miami with me,
Speaker 8: so I wanted everybody to come out.
Speaker 1: Signs you yes, first I see him going that put
Speaker 1: your teeth.
Speaker 2: I knew something was Oh my.
Speaker 8: God, rate in the first comedian signs to a vo record.
Speaker 8: That is all the washing we on the GRAM, cutting
Speaker 8: up and things like that, and I hit them up
Speaker 8: like yo, man, I got a proposition for you. Man,
Speaker 8: I think you know what I mean. And so here
Speaker 8: we are. He's been working on the stand up.
Speaker 7: We're about to put out his uh, his his comedy
Speaker 7: album fire.
Speaker 1: His soul is dope. Man, good kids. You don't got
Speaker 1: a female artist?
Speaker 8: Yeah, the rate female artist shouts, The jew shouts, the
Speaker 8: no I D shouts, the yellow.
Speaker 1: Yellow, yes, yellow. All right, So this is how the
Speaker 1: game goes. If you, if you're.
Speaker 6: Literally correct, you say none, did we take a shot?
Speaker 6: If you say both, did we take a shot? But
Speaker 6: but if you so so, if you pick one or
Speaker 6: the other, there's no shot. But I drink with you,
Speaker 6: so it's not it's not nothing crazy and it's shot
Speaker 6: the champion.
Speaker 1: Give me some food.
Speaker 6: Oh, this is a good one. It's a good one.
Speaker 6: But I know I know how you're gonna answer this.
Speaker 6: I know how you're gonna answer this, illmatic or doggy style.
Speaker 1: God damn, So how does this game go? Pick one?
Speaker 1: If you pick one, we don't drink. If you pick both,
Speaker 1: we drink, or either. If you pick both, like I
Speaker 1: like them like, oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Correct, and you can't decide you take a shot that
Speaker 5: you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't take a shot both the first first album.
Speaker 2: So listen to me.
Speaker 8: I remember going to hm V. Remember that's the double
Speaker 8: Me and Sam Goodie, Me and my man Omar. When
Speaker 8: I was in Julia, Richmond because school, we went to
Speaker 8: h m V. What was it Tuesday's album used to
Speaker 8: come out, Yes, Tuesday, Tuesday on Tuesday stole the Snoop
Speaker 8: Dogg album One Home.
Speaker 9: I remember the whole Snoop Dogg album.
Speaker 8: That night, came back to school and the next day
Speaker 8: we were singing the whole ship all through the halls.
Speaker 1: Are you taking a shot? Okay?
Speaker 6: All right, okay, take arrest one or rock him the
Speaker 6: New York You should not let you pick one.
Speaker 1: Just being honest, I'm not asked you who's try this
Speaker 1: one of that one? The white one on the black one,
Speaker 1: the bunk and I jumped up to attack one.
Speaker 6: Rest one is just leave the crew up to your
Speaker 6: face saying this shoot many rock Cam.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so let's take the shot. That's just
Speaker 1: that's not playing bro Hif didn't get a nigga dronk
Speaker 1: at least she's Takka pick one, we might jump in. Okay, French,
Speaker 1: Marktan or Rick Ross. These niggas that come up with this.
Speaker 8: Questions, all right, I can't like so and this is
Speaker 8: not it's not like your French. You know, I love
Speaker 8: you to death, have load. But I with Rick Ross,
Speaker 8: I like, I like, I like Rick Ross music from French.
Speaker 8: Got a bunch of hits, but I know a bunch
Speaker 8: of Rick Ross's music. Shouts the Ross the Boss and
Speaker 8: shouts the fresh. Okay, documentary he just dropped. I don't
Speaker 8: know if you can.
Speaker 1: You get to see the documentary. Art is real good.
Speaker 1: It's dope. Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 9: Got to see it.
Speaker 1: You went from the man you want to I like
Speaker 1: seeing y'all together. It was dope.
Speaker 8: I didn't know that I would be in the documentary
Speaker 8: so much, but it's definitely dopey.
Speaker 6: Squashed the beef. I ain't gonna lie. I think I
Speaker 6: caught you, and I was so proud. I'm so proud
Speaker 6: of you. So I'm so proud of New York because
Speaker 6: I just feel like New York we need to show
Speaker 6: unity like everyone else is showing unity.
Speaker 1: But us, because we were so cocky for so many years.
Speaker 1: But let's move on. Okay, big l or stock bundles,
Speaker 1: come on, that's great. Take a shot. Okay, yeah, your
Speaker 1: motherfuckers taking shot too? Are you doing shot?
Speaker 8: Taking shots to John John is an effect shot.
Speaker 1: That's the color that look like bronxtail? Are good Fellas delicious? Better?
Speaker 1: Damn bro listen. Just so you know, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: front those.
Speaker 8: So I sat my son down and watched bronx Tails
Speaker 8: with him and my nephew because I needed them to.
Speaker 9: Watch that like that.
Speaker 1: That's how deep Bronxtail is with me.
Speaker 8: Like I wanted him to understand the correlation between the
Speaker 8: working man and a man in the street.
Speaker 1: And told him that I was both you watch your
Speaker 1: son watching.
Speaker 9: I sat my son down when he was younger and
Speaker 9: watched do that that Really he didn't watched.
Speaker 7: None of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to watch watch none of it. I
Speaker 1: used to watch the watch That was the only movie.
Speaker 9: That was one of the only movies that I that
Speaker 9: I like. Wen't went to the movies, but that was
Speaker 9: the only movie.
Speaker 8: I told him, and I want to sit down and
Speaker 8: watch what you I want you to understand Broxton, who
Speaker 8: I am. I'm Iron body, both of these gentlemen right
Speaker 8: here and ship like that coming up because you know
Speaker 8: he was young and trying to understand whose father is.
Speaker 8: So that was a great way to get that off.
Speaker 8: Plus it's the dopest movie. Is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 9: And Good Fella's hands down.
Speaker 8: You gotta go home, You gotta gotta go home, You
Speaker 8: gotta go.
Speaker 1: You ready, you know the Colombia and Dominican makes these
Speaker 1: questions up.
Speaker 6: Dominican from Washington Heights. He looks like, you still sell cocaine.
Speaker 6: I don't know why Columbia that de spies the coke
Speaker 6: for member, I'm just playing playing that that.
Speaker 1: It could be Cam or Mace. You just me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go camp and this ain't wait. Let's so like,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, My my person never.
Speaker 9: Affected my in for music.
Speaker 1: I love music. You dig like when when when French
Speaker 1: and then came out with the scheming scheme, I had
Speaker 1: to listen to my father like my.
Speaker 7: For me, that's when I really started hating.
Speaker 1: I was like, I hate it. Deal with shout out
Speaker 1: the first Yeah. So what I'm saying with that is
Speaker 1: between me. So you know, I lived with cam Cams
Speaker 1: and my brother and whatever.
Speaker 8: I love that that we started from the bottom you heard, like,
Speaker 8: so it's like it's different, Like I noticed, I know
Speaker 8: he's a dog when to come to rapping, like I've
Speaker 8: been through thefestyle with him, also seeing how creative he
Speaker 8: is and ship like that. The same with Mas and
Speaker 8: ship like that. But there's just something about Cam that I.
Speaker 1: Think Cam versus Mace on versus you going can, I'm
Speaker 1: going Cam, But Ma showed me how to wrap.
Speaker 9: I mean I've said, I've said times.
Speaker 8: But Mace was smart enough to show me how to
Speaker 8: rap and compound the balls and things like that. So
Speaker 8: I can never take that play. And Mace got some
Speaker 8: of the dopest music that I heard. Also, but Mace
Speaker 8: only has one album. Cam got platinum albums, like not
Speaker 8: one of them. And that's what people don't be understand
Speaker 8: when they come to you Cam and a multi platinum
Speaker 8: artists when you see them like like you heard, like
Speaker 8: real platinum plaques and not the one that was accumulated
Speaker 8: by streams, the one that people had.
Speaker 7: To go in the store and.
Speaker 1: D mill you see, you got scratched, you had to go.
Speaker 8: Like stopped playing and some people was bond toing and
Speaker 8: one of keeping it classic because it's a classic, like
Speaker 8: stop playing like you just wanted to and.
Speaker 1: These is ten ninety nine, twelve ninety nine.
Speaker 8: Like they people had to come up out their pocket.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no credit carding, no Apple pat.
Speaker 7: It was a hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: So I got a couple of apples on tape Bro
Speaker 1: Moore reporters on tape Bro, I've seen that the other day.
Speaker 1: I didn't even wanna sign it. I was like, remember.
Speaker 8: Sniffing Cam sniffing joint because you want to take Yeah,
Speaker 8: I would tell people we was bro. We was recording
Speaker 8: before pro tools, like it was just.
Speaker 1: Right, the little door, a little door you got to
Speaker 1: carry around kids don't like, Yo, it's like eight pound.
Speaker 1: It was dash and rails before.
Speaker 8: I remember when the first to real was rigged, was
Speaker 8: broke into the Hit Factory studio like, yo, there is
Speaker 8: some digital ship, like some digital ship like now we
Speaker 8: don't need nothing rails no more. We're going like I
Speaker 8: remember this vividly. I remember Swiss Beasts coming in that
Speaker 8: same year, that same album recording that was Cam's first
Speaker 8: album in Hit Factory, and d and Rough Riders walked
Speaker 8: in with this young kid had to be sixteen, looked
Speaker 8: like a baby nephew.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even named Swiss at the time.
Speaker 8: It was his name is Swiss. But so that was
Speaker 8: the you had you Better buy beat. He came and
Speaker 8: Cam's studio started playing some ship so he's so one
Speaker 8: of those records with Kim was cam By his first beat,
Speaker 8: besides the Beast that he gave to rough Rider, Like
Speaker 8: he was the first person to buy a Swiss beast piece.
Speaker 1: I remember that.
Speaker 9: I don't want to rhund. I just want to talk
Speaker 9: to y'all ship like that.
Speaker 6: Like it's me Cam and DMX, that was the first
Speaker 6: people to Yeah, I'll give it to Cam. I ain't
Speaker 6: gonna take that from Cam. But it's me Cam and
Speaker 6: d m X.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because it's band from TV is Stop Drop
Speaker 1: and I believe it's Glory. I believe it's the name
Speaker 1: of the record. But I'm on that record, so I
Speaker 1: can't take it. Like, hey, many this mother, remember yo yo, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm about to get you. I'm about I'm about to
Speaker 1: get you. Drink okay thinks or pop smoke.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with well, see, let's just drink Okay,
Speaker 9: let's drink.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, New York City. God, bless both of them
Speaker 1: individuals are our piece of them.
Speaker 8: Bless their family and my condolences and all that. I
Speaker 8: know it's hard when you lose someone you day. We
Speaker 8: can't compare them type of people, and they're both great.
Speaker 8: They both did standing job when it came into this
Speaker 8: music and it was left prematurely you they like you
Speaker 8: know where they was both going. Like the last album
Speaker 8: that Chink did, like that boy, I didn't even know
Speaker 8: he was that ill when it came to like You Dig,
Speaker 8: and then Pop Smoke put a whole new wave on
Speaker 8: top of New York City that right.
Speaker 1: Now, if he would have been alive, he would have
Speaker 1: been next.
Speaker 8: Different type of a level of stardom, Like he was
Speaker 8: really going there, like he was you know in New York,
Speaker 8: you know in New York every every ten years.
Speaker 1: Life right there. It was like so I believe I believe.
Speaker 8: That Pop Smoke was the next one that was gonna
Speaker 8: feel that.
Speaker 6: The recipes of his family too, air Force Ones or Jordan's.
Speaker 8: Honestly, I'm gonna go air Force Ones heard, but Jordans
Speaker 8: is good after that, but it Ones, I just.
Speaker 1: Got just send me, just send me Drakes air Force one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie. It's nothing different. It
Speaker 6: just got a lot boy, no boy. I was like,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna with him today.
Speaker 1: I said, Man, I'm I'm gonna step on some ship.
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's just my love. So chill and
Speaker 1: kiss or Styles peace, Let's drink. Okay, let's drink me
Speaker 1: more drink. Let's drink.
Speaker 8: Jamie there for, I ain't gonna lie. So Styles was
Speaker 8: my favorite rapper for long. You got an album with them,
Speaker 8: I don't have an album some cuts with them? Oh Eth,
Speaker 8: we were supposed I was doing got it, got to
Speaker 8: get get it. This is back in the cot gotch
Speaker 8: So we take it take just take a drink and
Speaker 8: the finishing year.
Speaker 9: But Sta stays. Styles was one of my drink one
Speaker 9: of my favorite rappers.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if so, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back in history, going to history, right, let's go. So.
Speaker 8: I remember maybe about ninety ninety six, maybe sixty seven
Speaker 8: ninety six, Yeah, maybe late ninety five ninety six.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 8: Mace used to live uptown. Kids called young guns back
Speaker 8: in the day, and uh a little short stocker kids.
Speaker 8: It's an apartment called it who called locks? You know,
Speaker 8: they were doing music and all that, the name styles
Speaker 8: and shit like that. And then he had did this
Speaker 8: verse and he was like a hundred niggs stat a
Speaker 8: hundred niggas batted me. Still could shadowt me. I'm only
Speaker 8: getting up splitting up your anatomy. You heard he had
Speaker 8: did that verse, right. But the funny thing was about it.
Speaker 8: He was in that apartment because that incident I believe
Speaker 8: had happened and ship like that, and he had turned
Speaker 8: around and did the verse and the record and shit
Speaker 8: like that. And then from there it was like the
Speaker 8: locks and everything started becoming so visible. And then I
Speaker 8: just started listening to the heavy styles like he shit
Speaker 8: wizard cheap styles was like.
Speaker 1: Girl like no, no, no, take it away, don't take
Speaker 1: it awa.
Speaker 8: But but where styles was like to me, he was
Speaker 8: the lead in the locks when I first started really
Speaker 8: started engaging in the locks like styles like that snig
Speaker 8: of styles.
Speaker 1: And then Jada just started really.
Speaker 9: Start going crazy.
Speaker 8: Throughout the years, his flow became so impeccable in the world,
Speaker 8: playing and things he was talking on if he was
Speaker 8: outside and he was in getting the cause against.
Speaker 1: This nigger.
Speaker 8: Jada is going crazy so there's no way I think
Speaker 8: like you did, like shouts the whole lots shout she too,
Speaker 8: like she is nice as hell too, like you.
Speaker 1: Did, like you don't.
Speaker 7: You don't get his proper flowers.
Speaker 1: And ship like that.
Speaker 8: But she'd be going to funk off all the time
Speaker 8: her like he goes crazy and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, so New Jack City or Juice, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that, Jack said, Okay, easy e or Nipsey hustle.
Speaker 1: Damn my nigga. I didn't get to. I didn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't get to. I never got to. But he
Speaker 9: was one of my favorites of all time.
Speaker 8: Right easy, everybody, everybody, easy, easy say it.
Speaker 1: He bust through the string. Oh never, I'm just too clever.
Speaker 8: Show in fact that no one can evers I playing
Speaker 8: with me brop.
Speaker 7: Being outside a long time video music box.
Speaker 1: Stop doing that. Bro. Niggas ain't know what what's what
Speaker 1: West Coast term New York niggas out.
Speaker 8: Stop playing bro, Stop playing nigga when niggas seen them
Speaker 8: niggas on video music box.
Speaker 1: I remember, I said, you said some ship with Snoop.
Speaker 1: You said you was used to funk used the left stop.
Speaker 1: Then you said you see them they called that. Body
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, these niggas is really gay.
Speaker 8: Yo yo yo yo bro yo, Bro, I love, I
Speaker 8: love what's so certified gangsters like you did? Like I was,
Speaker 8: I'm a real fan of on West Coast music your
Speaker 8: dog Paum when dazzing them niggas was going crazy and
Speaker 8: them was coming out like bro what bro dazing the
Speaker 8: niggas was some of the nicest niggas on These niggas
Speaker 8: was going wow on records back in the days. Bro
Speaker 8: what like yo, the bet oh Man and the whole
Speaker 8: gang banging culture and ship like that. Just and then
Speaker 8: New York just started touching on the whole game, which
Speaker 8: I was just all turned out from the West Coast
Speaker 8: music and ship like that.
Speaker 9: You're digging in.
Speaker 8: The more I got into gang banging the mall, I
Speaker 8: was a fan of the West Coast and ship like that,
Speaker 8: and then it became a reality for me, like I'm
Speaker 8: really gang banging and now I'm doing music, and now
Speaker 8: I'm gang banging to a point that it's a thing
Speaker 8: that everybody in the.
Speaker 1: World could see.
Speaker 8: And now these niggas from the West Coast step and
Speaker 8: gang banging all their life and they Mama band, they
Speaker 8: papa been ganging, their uncle been gang banging, and now
Speaker 8: asking questions one of these niggas in New York acting
Speaker 8: like they really game banging. These niggas is fake bloods
Speaker 8: her like really fake bloods. I'm really getting death threats
Speaker 8: all the way on on the East Coast and shit
Speaker 8: like that, like really like I'm getting a bunch of
Speaker 8: bloods calling me.
Speaker 1: I'm getting all type of shit going on.
Speaker 8: When in the midst of the DIP set and really
Speaker 8: started getting into the height enough commercializing the gang banging
Speaker 8: on the East Coast, like we were responsible for that,
Speaker 8: and that shit came what not I would to say
Speaker 8: a price, but it came with questions and shit like that.
Speaker 8: So it was a point that I had to put
Speaker 8: on for what we were doing from the East Coast perspective,
Speaker 8: and I don't even really put on like go to
Speaker 8: the West Coast and do our video in the West
Speaker 8: Coast and really go to the West Coast and go
Speaker 8: to every hood on the West Coast and not saying
Speaker 8: I'm a bad man. There was people that we were
Speaker 8: calling so we could understand and build a bridge to
Speaker 8: what we were going on. Because we were all game banging.
Speaker 8: We were just all killing each other anyway. It was
Speaker 8: just black on black crime that was going on, but
Speaker 8: just on the different side. But to build a connection
Speaker 8: because we were all blood and shit like that was
Speaker 8: more or less what I was.
Speaker 9: Thinking about and shit like that. And that's what I
Speaker 9: was able to do.
Speaker 8: And I was able to go through California or LA
Speaker 8: and meet with some of the most notorious gang bangers
Speaker 8: out there, both crypt and blood, and that helped build
Speaker 8: the bridge to what we have today that there's so
Speaker 8: much East Coast and West Coast people that have camaraderie
Speaker 8: that all gang banging and shit like that.
Speaker 5: From my observation of seeing shit right like as a
Speaker 5: fan growing up, like I felt like at first it
Speaker 5: was like kind of cool to be cripped, like snooping
Speaker 5: number is popping all that. It was like cool to
Speaker 5: be cripped. Then when y'all came out, well you came
Speaker 5: out you you know, you wrapping the blush.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 5: I feel like around like old Fall five, like you
Speaker 5: start really going crazy with again Lit And from my perspective,
Speaker 5: I feel like you influenced the Lord Wayne shit, like
Speaker 5: you know you Juel's camp.
Speaker 1: I feel like y'all influenced that a little bit from
Speaker 1: where who he became who he became like he was like.
Speaker 8: Shouts the Wayne shouts the whole cash money. That's our family, man.
Speaker 8: We got a lot of history with them, And I mean,
Speaker 8: I do believe that Wayne was influenced heavily by what
Speaker 8: we were doing and Dip Set from the way we
Speaker 8: were walking, dressing and talking, the game, bank culture, how
Speaker 8: fly it was. They was getting some money and ship
Speaker 8: like that. You digging, They dove into it and ship
Speaker 8: like that. And I'm saying, I don't know what they
Speaker 8: were doing before that, but I know there was a
Speaker 8: change once they started mixing with the Dip Set whole
Speaker 8: movement and things like that. And I love Wayne the
Speaker 8: deaf and shit like that. That's the blood blood. How
Speaker 8: you feeling to him like that? That's that's the god
Speaker 8: shouts the bird Man too.
Speaker 1: Man. One of the most incredible executives. He don't get his.
Speaker 8: Flowers the way he should be, but he probably got
Speaker 8: He got one of the most retarded his runs inside
Speaker 8: of this hip hop history ever in all times, hands down.
Speaker 1: And he's still running.
Speaker 8: But they forget the correlation of what he is responsible for.
Speaker 8: And still connected to and still getting paid off of.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean, like real shouts of the
Speaker 8: whole hash money, So heat Makers or hit Maker Ship.
Speaker 1: I got, I got albums and relationships with both of them.
Speaker 8: He Makers is actually one person that's awesome this He's
Speaker 8: responsible for the whole dip set sound, so the whole
Speaker 8: ramped up sample sounds that you loved, Jowels and camp
Speaker 8: full and ship like that, the whole that's what he
Speaker 8: was responsible for.
Speaker 9: Hit Maker is actually Young Bird, which we've.
Speaker 8: Seen reinvent himself and so many times from being a
Speaker 8: rapper to now one of the top producers of all
Speaker 8: times like that, and I just did an album with
Speaker 8: him back in my prime shouts the problem on twelve
Speaker 8: one of my favorite spots out here.
Speaker 4: Check that out.
Speaker 1: Okay, push your tea or malice.
Speaker 9: To keep it a buck.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with push your tea, so we're not
Speaker 8: gonna drink to them, but shouts to push your.
Speaker 9: Tea, very dope water. Everybody know he's a monster when
Speaker 9: that comes to doing music.
Speaker 1: I can't take nothing away from them.
Speaker 8: I know everybody's seen every thing that was going on
Speaker 8: recently inside of the media and the internet. I believe
Speaker 8: it was cool one time of my life I got
Speaker 8: to engage into some verbal warfare and and don't have
Speaker 8: to go beyond that and ship like that. Who knows
Speaker 8: what he might come up with. He's very crafty and
Speaker 8: ship like that. Some people react off top, some people
Speaker 8: take years to come back. I've seen niggas have beef
Speaker 8: and years to try to kill a nigga you heard.
Speaker 8: It's not all successful. But this is what I'm trying
Speaker 8: to say, how people try to line people up. But
Speaker 8: for the most part, I think it was dope.
Speaker 1: It was cute.
Speaker 9: I don't know if he actually take a shot at.
Speaker 7: Me, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was huge.
Speaker 7: It was it was it was pointing, it was pointed
Speaker 7: in that direction.
Speaker 1: It maybe you made me feel the type of way
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this related, but he could always say,
Speaker 1: you know, Jim, I wasn't talking about you.
Speaker 9: I mean, and I would be hurt. That would be heartbreak.
Speaker 9: Was so upset.
Speaker 1: About Mama was talking about talking about let me let
Speaker 1: me start.
Speaker 8: I mean what it is, what it is man, whatever
Speaker 8: however they want to take it is cool, you know,
Speaker 8: I mean, like you did this, It's still rap music
Speaker 8: and like that.
Speaker 9: I've seen cool o d be like I'm from I'm
Speaker 9: from that row.
Speaker 7: This is what it is.
Speaker 1: We see what it is.
Speaker 8: I put a response out there, pretty crafty, I think
Speaker 8: I think I think it was pretty crafty.
Speaker 7: To me is my mother.
Speaker 9: But that's not a subject that we gotta dwell on.
Speaker 1: Get me out of here. We're out here, al or
Speaker 1: sham guard.
Speaker 9: Damn, that's crazy. So I'm gonna pick.
Speaker 8: Oh, you're gonna pick I was going to drink to that.
Speaker 8: I'm going to pick Ali Moe blesseds and not. And
Speaker 8: that's not because he passed away RP to his soul.
Speaker 8: Like I went to high school Alley Moore.
Speaker 9: I know Ali Moore.
Speaker 8: I watched Ali Moore playing basketball with Cam. I watched
Speaker 8: Ali Moore playing basketball and tournaments. He was hands down
Speaker 8: one of the nicest individuals in basketball in the world.
Speaker 9: I'm not talking about not not not, I'm talking about
Speaker 9: in the world.
Speaker 8: I've seen that kid do some things that will never
Speaker 8: ever be duplicated in basketball at all.
Speaker 9: I mean, and I don't know if there was no Instagram,
Speaker 9: it was.
Speaker 1: Not that error.
Speaker 9: This was an era that you have to be at.
Speaker 8: But Ali Moe, the Black widow hands down. And you
Speaker 8: can ask anybody who's been around since they nineties and
Speaker 8: watching basketball and street basketball and in high school basketball.
Speaker 1: He's like and no disrespect to Shamguard.
Speaker 8: Shamguard is one of the earliest niggas with a basketball
Speaker 8: in his hand, his handle. He got basketball moves named
Speaker 8: after him. You heard, but the moves that Ali Moe
Speaker 8: was doing and didn't have no name for. He was
Speaker 8: doing his ships off the whim like.
Speaker 1: I took the shot. I'm sorry. I mean tell you,
Speaker 1: I tell you like Ali, like Ali.
Speaker 6: Player, his trip used to be so low, talking about
Speaker 6: to be so low, talk.
Speaker 1: About listen when I met him and Yo, I'm getting you.
Speaker 16: I wanted to Jim Jones, Okay, all Swiss beats, Digger
Speaker 16: Swiss beats, We're going.
Speaker 7: If nobody know who six figured digg is sig dig is.
Speaker 1: The first.
Speaker 9: Producer for Cameron Bloodshed.
Speaker 8: I would say Mace from back when they started with
Speaker 8: Children of the Corner and asked Cameron game his success
Speaker 8: those with all the.
Speaker 9: Beasts that Digger was making and things like that.
Speaker 8: Also digg It Diigger created the Diplomat logo so that
Speaker 8: eagle with the that's going through he created that logo
Speaker 8: for anybody.
Speaker 1: Sugar Digger, six figure digger.
Speaker 6: He created the one half of your mustache is gray
Speaker 6: and the other half to get.
Speaker 1: Your fucking you up. Okay, this is the last one
Speaker 1: on quick Time of s line and I'm very curious.
Speaker 1: This is my favorite one.
Speaker 6: Me and Finish is our favorite one that we always
Speaker 6: ask and this is the one that we always feel like.
Speaker 1: This the most simple ast loyalty or respect? Respect? Okay, now, respect,
Speaker 1: we want to break it down mmmm. Same respect. Respect
Speaker 1: is something that's earned and not given.
Speaker 8: Somebody could just be loyal, to be loyal to something
Speaker 8: that they want to be a part of that has
Speaker 8: nothing to do with the same respect they might have
Speaker 8: not for you.
Speaker 1: You heard.
Speaker 8: Somebody can be loyal to an opportunity and not have
Speaker 8: no respect for you.
Speaker 1: Heard.
Speaker 8: Hold on now and they say respect, Let's talk about
Speaker 8: respect because everybody not might not respect you.
Speaker 9: But I always say that's cool. But you're not going
Speaker 9: to disrespect me.
Speaker 1: You heard right.
Speaker 8: We're gonna get that straight off the top. And if
Speaker 8: you if you try that, you're gonna learn to respect me.
Speaker 8: About this lesson, I'm gonna give you. You heard, So
Speaker 8: that's how I feel but and and being loyal. Yes,
Speaker 8: it's something that's very precious, especially when it's amongst the
Speaker 8: brotherhood and things like that. And I've been loyal to
Speaker 8: a flaw to everything that I attached myself to, anybody
Speaker 8: that I've attached myself to, and people can't I wish
Speaker 8: somebody would say anything about my loyalty to what I've No.
Speaker 1: I think I think no.
Speaker 6: One can't question your sing both. So you're actually saying both.
Speaker 6: I'm being honest. That's a good shot. I won't even drive,
Speaker 6: but that was a great that's a great focus.
Speaker 1: You gotta take the shot.
Speaker 9: We won't take.
Speaker 8: Respect over loyalty anything you did, because whether you loyalty
Speaker 8: and not, we were all we're gonna respect each other.
Speaker 6: That's a great answers. So so because we only got
Speaker 6: a little while longer because they got to wrap it
Speaker 6: up you. But one thing did I notice? Right the verses,
Speaker 6: I was so hyped. I can't make it to New York.
Speaker 6: Pat Joe was calling me, Man, we gotta be front, bro.
Speaker 6: I'm like, because it's from real New York. Ship Like,
Speaker 6: I just smelled the Timberlands from where I was at,
Speaker 6: wherever I was, I smelled. I smelled Timberlands, I smelled
Speaker 6: sour like I was tuned in. But the one thing
Speaker 6: that I noticed about the verses prior to being recorded
Speaker 6: was I called you, I called Cam, I called you else.
Speaker 6: I caused kissing styles and they were together. They were
Speaker 6: together with hearsing. So I automatically knew. I automatically knew
Speaker 6: that was a tiny advantage because hold on, take a
Speaker 6: shot with you.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you can't jesus stick with Bobby Brown for
Speaker 1: a second. A couple more said all right, my bad,
Speaker 1: yet hold on. Do you think that that was the reason?
Speaker 6: Why is because did y'all kind of look at it
Speaker 6: more as.
Speaker 1: A bag off? I'm gonna ask you it was both, okay.
Speaker 8: I mean, it was a great bag the saving money
Speaker 8: through us at the time, and it was a dope opportunity.
Speaker 1: But as all them niggas, you know.
Speaker 8: We think were the coolest niggas, and we got it
Speaker 8: all together all the time, and we don't.
Speaker 9: Hard work bet talent every time.
Speaker 8: And yes we are super talented individuals, you know, but
Speaker 8: when you don't put that.
Speaker 9: Working working, you're gonna tend to come up short.
Speaker 8: And I don't think we put enough working for the
Speaker 8: task that was at hand because we think we so
Speaker 8: cool and we always conform vultra on and shit like that,
Speaker 8: and that place blame on no one, a place, blame
Speaker 8: on all of us, and ship like.
Speaker 1: That you did.
Speaker 6: But I see a lot of people say that it
Speaker 6: was it was how y'all laid it out. It wasn't that,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, it's cool.
Speaker 9: I mean I think that. I think it was a
Speaker 9: great battle all the way up into the end.
Speaker 1: Did I think it was fun?
Speaker 8: I think it was entertainer, but the fans got a
Speaker 8: different perspective on what they see and ship like that.
Speaker 1: It's cool, But I had a great time.
Speaker 8: But like I said, uh, proper preparation prevents poor performance
Speaker 8: every time.
Speaker 1: Did y'all do it over?
Speaker 8: We wasn't properly prepared. We didn't rehearse per se. We
Speaker 8: got together, gathering, put a game plan together. But we
Speaker 8: knew better than I think we all knew that we
Speaker 8: couldn't have rehearsed and they and they taught.
Speaker 1: Us that, and ship like that, And I said, and
Speaker 1: I supposed to styles I felt them sweating, like I
Speaker 1: felt like they were serious, and I was just like, damn,
Speaker 1: they taking this ship too like. But anybody that's down
Speaker 1: with did he take it serious? You know?
Speaker 6: Did he make people rehearse it, prepared for shows, all
Speaker 6: type of.
Speaker 8: But the same the same thing with us, the same
Speaker 8: thing with cam. Cam is a menace when it comes
Speaker 8: to that type of ship. But you know, we we
Speaker 8: have we all have our disconnect and ship like that.
Speaker 8: And you know, but I can't take nothing away from
Speaker 8: the hall word that the Locks put it in and
Speaker 8: ship like that you did.
Speaker 9: It was their time and that was the way it
Speaker 9: was written.
Speaker 1: And ship like that.
Speaker 8: And I'm a fan of what they did and ship
Speaker 8: like that. They look good out there. I took my
Speaker 8: hand to them, ready.
Speaker 1: For the rematch. It was hip hop. No. But what
Speaker 1: with Jim Jones is Jim Jones is battling men bleak?
Speaker 1: I mean not being like, I don't like Memphis. Someone's
Speaker 1: moving a spot, Memphis, Someone's moving. I'm sorry that spots.
Speaker 1: Somebody get it bad shots.
Speaker 9: The men bleak working. He ain't no sloushy. He put it.
Speaker 9: He put in a lot of work. He got he
Speaker 9: got some hints. But I don't think that he's ready
Speaker 9: for the type of ship that.
Speaker 8: Would go on in the verses with me and on
Speaker 8: that type of forum and ship like that, Like I
Speaker 8: really like people tend to look over the catalog that
Speaker 8: I have and ship like that, like I've really made
Speaker 8: classic albums, and I really French platinum hits. Now, that'd
Speaker 8: be dope, fresh guy hell hits. But in New York
Speaker 8: City we would go up. We heard we would go
Speaker 8: off in New York City. It'd be a battle. I
Speaker 8: would love to do.
Speaker 1: Something like that.
Speaker 8: But then French Fresk got some big, big, big ass hits,
Speaker 8: like I can't take away from him, and ship like that.
Speaker 8: You did, like he definitely put the work and he deserved.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying that I got a hell of a
Speaker 8: catalog and and the forum that was said, if you
Speaker 8: put me in New York City in that type of
Speaker 8: form and ship like that, I do believe that Capitol
Speaker 8: will have a lot of tricks up under his sleeve
Speaker 8: because I got so undeniable hits, and then I got
Speaker 8: some undeniable New York hits, a lot of them. You
Speaker 8: did like and that and and that's and that's hard
Speaker 8: to beat when you're into town, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If you and French is battling who is Drake coming
Speaker 1: out with? Because Drake I don't, I don't.
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't have any I don't have any
Speaker 8: records with Drake. But if Drake don't come out with French,
Speaker 8: that would definitely records with the hell of a cheat
Speaker 8: code super light, That's what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 8: God damn, like you did. But I definitely would have
Speaker 8: a great time inside of New York shot the French.
Speaker 8: But I do believe that there's other people that Front
Speaker 8: should go up against that he would. He would definitely
Speaker 8: give him a run for their money and ship like that.
Speaker 8: Like he he he's earned the respect as far as
Speaker 8: the hiss that he's put out and the music that
Speaker 8: he's put out to go up against a lot of
Speaker 8: people and ship like that when it comes to that
Speaker 8: type of form, and he could do it anywhere because
Speaker 8: he got them type of his right right. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 8: I keep it funky man. I ain't really got no
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. We're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 8: We're gonna talk about We're always gonna keep it down
Speaker 8: the line.
Speaker 1: To Zeke get down for so long, big change.
Speaker 7: Just like that.
Speaker 1: But you're down for so long. He's been lord with
Speaker 1: it people so long, and he wrapped and done all
Speaker 1: of that. Don't wrap I'm about.
Speaker 9: Can I say before get out here, because.
Speaker 8: I always like, I always like to promote all I'm
Speaker 8: about to start.
Speaker 2: Loyal time John, he kept going after the go.
Speaker 7: In that case.
Speaker 8: So I just want to say that I'm about to
Speaker 8: start shooting the late night variety show with alive and
Speaker 8: studio audience. And I want to say, variety show, you
Speaker 8: got characters and stuff with it. So I want people
Speaker 8: to look out for this late night show. I mean
Speaker 8: a real late night show like New York Hall and
Speaker 8: in living color type of ship. Been working on it
Speaker 8: for a while. We're about to start shooting at the
Speaker 8: at the end of August. You know, I've been into
Speaker 8: this whole uh making television shows.
Speaker 1: I call you all the time. A lot of the
Speaker 1: things way better than I just want to tell my
Speaker 1: hat to you and give you.
Speaker 8: Your flowers at the before any I mean, while we
Speaker 8: have the opportunity.
Speaker 9: Because what you've been doing is a hell of a job.
Speaker 8: I've seen you turn your life around a lot of
Speaker 8: different times, and this one it seems like you really figured.
Speaker 9: Out what you need to be.
Speaker 6: You know what it is like an open shop and
Speaker 6: set up shop and closed shop whenever I want. And
Speaker 6: you know, I got tired of like doing show. You
Speaker 6: know when you do shows with other people, like you
Speaker 6: don't know if these people are there to see them
Speaker 6: or to see you. I sort of hate them to
Speaker 6: the best part about this is I see you happy.
Speaker 6: I'm happy to see a whole different from yes, yes.
Speaker 1: I grew up.
Speaker 9: I mean we all get older.
Speaker 8: We changed that ten years because to see where you're
Speaker 8: at making boss moves, you're putting people in a position
Speaker 8: to win.
Speaker 1: Think you got how you're hiring people.
Speaker 9: I see you hire your son speak speaking of you
Speaker 9: hire your son. This is this is this is my son,
Speaker 9: This is my son's tea.
Speaker 1: This coven is cool.
Speaker 6: That's fire, that's crazy, that's fire, all right. He puts
Speaker 6: something over your face so he don't get you.
Speaker 8: Anybody anybody else can use the diplomat diplomat logo like
Speaker 8: this definitely him. So you know, I'm just like, I
Speaker 8: see you put your son in position and things like that.
Speaker 8: I've been working side of side with my with my
Speaker 8: son for years to try to figure out what he
Speaker 8: want to do when he finally got something, so I'm
Speaker 8: excited to pipe him up. And he got a license too,
Speaker 8: He definitely got his license. He been trying to trying
Speaker 8: to take the range out, like yo, let me just
Speaker 8: go to the sore like And it's funny when you're
Speaker 8: not a parent until you a parent and me going
Speaker 8: through this whole car situation with him, and maybe I'm true.
Speaker 1: No, I've been wanting to buy I've been wanting to
Speaker 1: buy my car.
Speaker 7: I've been wanting to buy my car.
Speaker 8: But you know, as a parent, I want to make
Speaker 8: sure that he's safe while he's driving something like that.
Speaker 1: Bro, you gotta driving me for like a month, like yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta show me that ill behind the wheel before.
Speaker 8: I buy you this vehicle and ship like that, And
Speaker 8: maybe thinking to myself, maybe I'm I'm doing too much.
Speaker 8: I see other parents buying their kids cars.
Speaker 9: And things like that, but I'm just like you.
Speaker 1: I would never know I would be that parent to
Speaker 1: be like that to my son, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: But ship, I love him to death and ship like that.
Speaker 8: But I thank you for this opportunity to be here shouting.
Speaker 7: I want to shout out.
Speaker 1: I want to shout out sunny d body transport whatever
Speaker 1: in Miami.
Speaker 8: They make sure that I'm protected and I get whole
Speaker 8: safely to and from your someone shout out the whole
Speaker 8: Miami and ship like that, y'all.
Speaker 9: You know I love them definitely. Is my birthday weekend.
Speaker 1: We're all going up, and we're going up and I'm
Speaker 1: hanging out with you. I'm hanging out, We're gonna go.
Speaker 6: I'm hanging out with you and I'm celebrating my twenty
Speaker 6: fifth anniversary of my first album.
Speaker 1: I'm celebrating with you. That means that he was probably together. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. TV cam came whatever when who listened to me?
Speaker 8: Whenever, whenever, whenever, I'll be going whenever I go through
Speaker 8: my ship and ship like that. Sometimes I sit back
Speaker 8: at home and I'll be like.
Speaker 1: Nigga, who is really mad about like bro, Like like
Speaker 1: straighten up your face. I can come out like I
Speaker 1: got a problem of being grossy and I got to
Speaker 1: sit back like Nigga, you you.
Speaker 8: Pretty good for yourself, Like you really know where you're from, bro,
Speaker 8: Like the ship.
Speaker 9: That you beat right here, like we're all champions.
Speaker 8: Out here, like we've all been a helified adversity and
Speaker 8: were coming out on top. Right now, you do like
Speaker 8: every day, every day ain't gonna be our best you
Speaker 8: as long as we strive to be better than the
Speaker 8: next ding And she's like that, I always got a
Speaker 8: conscious effort in my mind to be better. Like I
Speaker 8: have this thing like I've been giving back so much
Speaker 8: because I got to.
Speaker 1: Take a lot.
Speaker 9: So before I go, I want to know that I
Speaker 9: gave more than.
Speaker 1: Jamie. I need I need to shot for that. What's
Speaker 1: yet the first that was Hardy got a job.
Speaker 7: First, shouts the hot talents smoke shot.
Speaker 6: So this is pretty much the last question. But we've
Speaker 6: been there next to the last.
Speaker 1: So what would it take for us to get a
Speaker 1: full fledged dipset album right now? What would it take?
Speaker 9: I ain't gonna I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 8: From my perspective, if if, if, if it was a
Speaker 8: perfect world and I can have things my way, it
Speaker 8: would take us. It would it would for me, It
Speaker 8: just how I see it, and I know that it
Speaker 8: would be in my eyes it would turn into a
Speaker 8: hell of a success. It would take us partnership, partnering
Speaker 8: up with the right person, whether it be it labeled,
Speaker 8: someone who has vested interest to see us win, we
Speaker 8: dig and once we have a sound blueprint of that.
Speaker 9: And I have to say that it's about the money.
Speaker 8: But money makes this ship move when it comes to
Speaker 8: doing music, and it's a certain esthetic that we want
Speaker 8: to see and it's a certain type of stund that
Speaker 8: people want to hear.
Speaker 1: And we ain't trying to cheat the people and things
Speaker 1: like that, you know.
Speaker 8: And I think a lot of that is what's been
Speaker 8: going on in the past years of us doing these
Speaker 8: Diplomats installments and things like that, because we're so used
Speaker 8: to having this whole independent layout.
Speaker 9: But I think that we put so much work in
Speaker 9: and things like that.
Speaker 8: That people deserve a real Diplomat album and that's not
Speaker 8: gonna happen until we have a sound partner that could
Speaker 8: put up the bill to make the different documentary way
Speaker 8: that needs to be seen and ship like that, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean.
Speaker 9: And that's just that.
Speaker 1: Fan my Diplomat album. I want y'all in the studio together.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to I've been.
Speaker 9: I've been.
Speaker 1: I've been for like the past seven years.
Speaker 8: I've been having this plan of how to get this
Speaker 8: Diplomat album done and ship. I want ship like that,
Speaker 8: like you did, like for everybody together wherever we go,
Speaker 8: and ship like that, you dig and really encompass the
Speaker 8: sound of who we are.
Speaker 9: It's always been a universal sound.
Speaker 8: And the way the music is moving now, the way
Speaker 8: we can merge the music with some of the younger
Speaker 8: are becoming artists of some of the most powerful artists.
Speaker 1: Going on, and shit like that.
Speaker 8: A lot of these artists that are real fans of
Speaker 8: what we've done and as diplomats and ship like that.
Speaker 8: Will say, I speak to a lot of them all
Speaker 8: the time, and shit like that, and I think that
Speaker 8: if we mix all this music together and really get
Speaker 8: these people a real dope diplomat album and ship like
Speaker 8: that of both what they been missing and everything that
Speaker 8: they listen to right now, ship like that but on
Speaker 8: the highest level of making music, which we can't do.
Speaker 1: And ship like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 9: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like really like really like like the stompers out here,
Speaker 1: like the steps.
Speaker 5: I was raised on this set, look like there's a
Speaker 5: rapper I feel abatic, Like who your favorite?
Speaker 8: I think with no shade, I think, I think, I
Speaker 8: think we deserve it. You did like like this has
Speaker 8: been We've been through a whole lot of ups and
Speaker 8: downs and things like that. But I don't think that
Speaker 8: we really after our first album. I don't think that
Speaker 8: we as a whole, we never really got a chance
Speaker 8: to really go go like that.
Speaker 9: We all started getting so much.
Speaker 1: Money at that time. Like you people forget, forget these is.
Speaker 8: We're all separate entities that start going platinum on ourselves
Speaker 8: and together.
Speaker 1: You heard like like it wasn't just Cam breaking in
Speaker 1: the door anymore, it's all of us raking into it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And money, money clouds a situation.
Speaker 8: I mean, if I don't know if you got any money,
Speaker 8: if you ever really got some money, if you really
Speaker 8: got some money and you're doing it with you know
Speaker 8: how it goes clouds a situation, and it really ja'es you,
Speaker 8: especially at a young age when you don't have no guidance.
Speaker 8: And that was one of the things that we really
Speaker 8: missed as we was coming up. Not to say that
Speaker 8: whatever happened happened, but we didn't never have no Oh Jesus,
Speaker 8: you know how it was.
Speaker 1: We were just doing your trial and error.
Speaker 9: I learned everything as we went, as we went alone
Speaker 9: and ship.
Speaker 6: Like You're in Cam's relationship with Mimmy and me and
Speaker 6: Capone a lot. You know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 6: be brothers, but it's just like we have opinions on
Speaker 6: our brothers. Because you and my brother, I still have
Speaker 6: an opinion against you. You know what I'm saying for you,
Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question. When you see them
Speaker 6: going through whatever they're going through, what is your opinion
Speaker 6: on it?
Speaker 8: My opinion, I really think, motherfucking they need to call
Speaker 8: each other and just holler each other.
Speaker 1: It's funny, get the mic on own hey, they just
Speaker 1: call each other and holler at each other on their
Speaker 1: own time. You know what I'm saying Because a lot
Speaker 1: of people over here say ship. A lot of people
Speaker 1: over here say ship. I think they just need to
Speaker 1: go pick up and beat me.
Speaker 10: Let me see Zeek the type of nigga be Like
Speaker 10: I called yo, this nigga get me. I go crazy,
Speaker 10: Like yeah, right here with him right now? What he
Speaker 10: said exactly what he said, like you don't he don't,
Speaker 10: he don't.
Speaker 9: Have no sides in this whole situation.
Speaker 8: I can tell you that was one of the most
Speaker 8: beautiful things that we have when it comes to see
Speaker 8: both of you, denullinator between all of us, he never
Speaker 8: picked a side and he has his own right suit
Speaker 8: all of us to you like like you heard, like
Speaker 8: you heard, like Zeke, you imagine what he got to
Speaker 8: go through in the midst.
Speaker 1: Of everybody know, I'm thinking about him, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 8: Like he never really got his full opportunity to reap
Speaker 8: all the benefits that we got to because he was
Speaker 8: locked up at the time when we was at the
Speaker 8: height of our career and.
Speaker 1: Ship like that.
Speaker 9: So when we was getting millions of dollars.
Speaker 8: In it like that and going crazy and ship like that,
Speaker 8: he came in until end of it and he missed everything.
Speaker 8: So at that point, it's like, imagine what you know
Speaker 8: what I mean, But this is my boy right here.
Speaker 8: We're back at it.
Speaker 1: I'm talkin. I think.
Speaker 5: I think people really don't understand the points of all
Speaker 5: of y'all being together, Like you know, you know you
Speaker 5: came in rapping lately late late in the game, but
Speaker 5: people don't understand like the ship.
Speaker 1: Talking, the ada lives the background of you, Zeic.
Speaker 5: Like niggas don't well me as a fan, I know
Speaker 5: how important is I wanted to hear all that like
Speaker 5: all of that count after the disrecord, you talking ship you,
Speaker 5: we like that's dipset. It ain't just cam and it
Speaker 5: ain't just it ain't just you and just was just us.
Speaker 5: You say that no matter, And we got the right
Speaker 5: to say that, all of us just saying about you, nigga.
Speaker 5: We all have the right to say that.
Speaker 8: We always say that, all of us, even Joel's and
Speaker 8: ship like that you did whenever we in the midst
Speaker 8: of whatever, like Dip said, is never about one man,
Speaker 8: it was about all of us. We made that thing
Speaker 8: move as a whole like that, You know what I mean?
Speaker 8: So shouts a Jewel Santana.
Speaker 1: He got some more music. You listen to me, listen
Speaker 1: to me. I listen to me. I fight with Juel's
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 8: But I do know he got a whole album that
Speaker 8: he got done, and I'm talking about he got all
Speaker 8: the steppers on it.
Speaker 1: I mean studio. I text him.
Speaker 8: He's in a text him like you.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't like it.
Speaker 8: I do know that he was in the midst of
Speaker 8: a d I do know he was in the mist
Speaker 8: of a deal and he was finishing up. But he
Speaker 8: definitely has some music. But I feel like you feel
Speaker 8: for so many years and ship like that. But Jewel's
Speaker 8: your favorite rapper, always my favorite rapper. That boy still
Speaker 8: can go.
Speaker 1: Rap up all the time of all the time.
Speaker 9: I got so many rappers that meant so much to
Speaker 9: me and ship like that you did.
Speaker 1: Look, let me say it before you. I can't really
Speaker 1: just won't say one. But it's like all encompass one
Speaker 1: that would.
Speaker 5: Be incident right listen, Like it's a lot of rappers
Speaker 5: that influenced me or I hear their music and make
Speaker 5: me want to do this and make me want to.
Speaker 1: But like you overall, like you my favorite rapper or
Speaker 1: the fact of your whole style.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like just the rat it was the style,
Speaker 5: it was the ship talk, and it was the mean
Speaker 5: of the attitude overall. So when I'm asking you that,
Speaker 5: like it's a bunch of rappers, like I know jay
Speaker 5: Z is one of the greatest, Like, but you my
Speaker 5: favorite rapper because of everything in the hole.
Speaker 1: So I want to know, like who influenced you as
Speaker 1: a whole. And I hear you saying y'all keep twenty
Speaker 1: in the pocket like change, I'm like.
Speaker 17: He's still rocking. Car Roll he's still like it's like
Speaker 17: fly so so like that.
Speaker 8: Who influenced me was the hustle, was in Harlem and
Speaker 8: in the Bronx. That's who really influenced me, George. It
Speaker 8: wasn't not boys George. I mean, boy George is one
Speaker 8: of them, but directly it was like THEMN type of
Speaker 8: cats in my hood. It was like first and then
Speaker 8: it was like Pop on one hundred thirteenth Street, and
Speaker 8: then it was like that Big Day.
Speaker 9: It was like Big Dave.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you're familiar with Big Dave, Big
Speaker 8: Dave l cool J's one of his covers.
Speaker 9: He got Big Days Mercedes bands.
Speaker 8: It was it was a black Mercedes bands like this,
Speaker 8: how like, this is the type of.
Speaker 9: Individuals that we grew up wanted to be like, Like
Speaker 9: my man DDA that.
Speaker 8: Took us to the tunnel when we was like fifteen
Speaker 8: sixteen and shit like this, and these niggas all going
Speaker 8: to the tunnel were drug money and they skipping line
Speaker 8: and getting on express line and shit like that. Like
Speaker 8: these are the people that were really shaped who I
Speaker 8: wanted to be like and shit like that. And then
Speaker 8: when it came to the music and shit like that,
Speaker 8: that the energy that I was getting. It was like,
Speaker 8: so Snoop was like one of the first people that
Speaker 8: I really like Snoop and and NAS like they really
Speaker 8: like Snoop because Snoop.
Speaker 1: Came that ships together, man, Snoop is deep.
Speaker 8: When deep Cover came out and this nigga came and
Speaker 8: this nigga came out and deep covering the way you
Speaker 8: started rapping. I was like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 8: And then he can't and then he came back with
Speaker 8: the braids. I'm like, no, this nigga is cold, Like
Speaker 8: who is this nigga you heard? And then then yeah,
Speaker 8: Snoop was That's why I got braids and then now
Speaker 8: and then NAS was like yo, Nas So in high
Speaker 8: school was me and Zeke like when he did the
Speaker 8: barbecue and ship like that when he when he did
Speaker 8: that barbecue, it was like, Yo, who the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: Why is he talking about what we doing?
Speaker 8: Like this is like you did like they were like,
Speaker 8: so it was like then it started then like and
Speaker 8: then Pock this embodied the fly cocky gang banging ship
Speaker 8: like Snoop was gang banging, but Pock me that ship
Speaker 8: feel like I just like nigga what like Yo, Bro
Speaker 8: Pop like I got into my first fight with Pop
Speaker 8: like Yo, I never heard went upstairs, listened to poking
Speaker 8: mc bree. I gotta get mons, you gotta get yours.
Speaker 8: I gotta get mo guy and one thing I stand
Speaker 8: to have my first fight off that as a teenager,
Speaker 8: like Yo type of ship Pak was doing to me,
Speaker 8: and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Like really like oh my god, like Yo. And then
Speaker 1: and then it was like and then it was like Jay.
Speaker 8: You know, it was like Jake because the niggas started
Speaker 8: figuring out how to hustle and make some money, and
Speaker 8: that ship Jay started talking about was like, oh no,
Speaker 8: these niggas is getting this money. And then there was
Speaker 8: this gang banging and getting money. And then I'm dealing
Speaker 8: with niggas that was gang banging and getting real money.
Speaker 8: LL beat my man light and shit like that. Like
Speaker 8: it was like so many so I really can't put
Speaker 8: my hands on one rapper, but the most influenced you
Speaker 8: that probably would say it would be like Pop because
Speaker 8: I was so rebellious and I wanted to be like pocketing.
Speaker 8: Then Big he a big chapter in my life also
Speaker 8: because he was kicking all that New York shit and
Speaker 8: shit like that. Like, and then he was teaching you
Speaker 8: about how to kick it to the bitches and shit
Speaker 8: like that. Was one thing I learned from Big was
Speaker 8: like a lot of a lot of game how to
Speaker 8: kick it to the bitches, Like Big had a lot
Speaker 8: of game for the bitches and ship like that.
Speaker 9: This early skate key err and sit like that.
Speaker 8: I don't know if niggas know about skakey skake keys
Speaker 8: like ninety three, ninety four kid on Allenton, but yeah,
Speaker 8: but I mean I'm saying it was on Allenton and
Speaker 8: shit like that.
Speaker 9: And this is this one.
Speaker 8: Niggas was going to the rake the drink and New Jersey.
Speaker 8: So the hustlers and shit like that would go to
Speaker 8: the rink in New Jersey. The rinking New Jersey was
Speaker 8: over at two. Niggas would feed from the rink all
Speaker 8: the way back to the ska key And meanwhile we
Speaker 8: fourteen at fifteen saving up crack when Hey getting cabs
Speaker 8: on whle you damn. This was one thing Cam and
Speaker 8: was advanced that Cam and Honey six God bless Howey
Speaker 8: six shit you know Honey, everybody know who study see
Speaker 8: Honey was super advanced.
Speaker 1: Honey, Honey and Cam.
Speaker 8: These niggas was in the Kine Club when they was
Speaker 8: thirteen fourteen, like this what Harlem was all about. So
Speaker 8: when you'd be like, our influenced, our influence, this was
Speaker 8: really everything that was going on in the street and
Speaker 8: shit like that. And then starting to watch these rappers
Speaker 8: and shit like that. This gave us so much energy
Speaker 8: about what we wanted to be like and who we
Speaker 8: wanted to be like and shit like that. But Jay
Speaker 8: and Park and really really coming up. And then I
Speaker 8: remember Wu Tang Well, I remember when Rake put out
Speaker 8: the Purple tape. And this is when it's when Cam
Speaker 8: was living with me in five AH and when we
Speaker 8: got that purple tape, we put that CD in God
Speaker 8: bless my grandmother when she passed away. You put that
Speaker 8: CD in the little ship we had in a little
Speaker 8: by the kitchen. That purple tape. When I tell you,
Speaker 8: that purple tape played for the whole summer and nobody
Speaker 8: touched that radio.
Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying. It played for the.
Speaker 8: Whole summer on repeat. Nobody touched the radio. That Purple
Speaker 8: Pact nigga her like that. Shit went crazy and then
Speaker 8: them niggas did videos in the hallm I break this
Speaker 8: whole table, Like yo, bro, when.
Speaker 1: Them niggas was doing ice treaming all that shit, the
Speaker 1: wol table was coming through like you felt like.
Speaker 8: You felt like it was a part of something like Yo,
Speaker 8: them niggas is up the block and then they coming
Speaker 8: through them vib Man dust from the projects and they
Speaker 8: come through vin Mad Dust from one hund fortieth sh
Speaker 8: like Yo, this but this is all hip hop, but it's.
Speaker 1: Part the street shit.
Speaker 8: So you know how we feeling like it's like you're digging.
Speaker 8: This is all in Harlem and this is what I mean.
Speaker 8: Like the streets really infected us at a young age
Speaker 8: and shit like that, Like we all been outside me
Speaker 8: z Cam, all of us that came up, we've really
Speaker 8: been outside any streets going to clubs, buggings. It's like
Speaker 8: fourteen to fifteen, trying to get in clubs, trying to
Speaker 8: get money, trying to get fresh, trying to be grown,
Speaker 8: like like this is where we embody and shit like that.
Speaker 1: Like and I'm just ranting right.
Speaker 7: Now and shit like that.
Speaker 1: But how important that was to the music that I do.
Speaker 8: On top of the rappers that influenced me, well, the
Speaker 8: streets was the biggest influence that I had because at
Speaker 8: that time we got to witness some hella five shit
Speaker 8: six five?
Speaker 1: What was a choice?
Speaker 7: It said?
Speaker 5: Like it gives different quotes from rappers that I guess
Speaker 5: they must ask questions or say, you said, you said
Speaker 5: one of your biggest regress is not believing in yourself earlier,
Speaker 5: like you know earlier.
Speaker 1: So did you ever see yourself.
Speaker 5: Being where you're at right now, like as a rapper
Speaker 5: or did you always kind of thing like y'a, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna support.
Speaker 1: My man and.
Speaker 8: I like, so, I remember I used to have this
Speaker 8: saying and shit like that that I wasn't famous, but
Speaker 8: all the famous people gonna know me, and then I'm
Speaker 8: just like, I'm not famous for now all the famous
Speaker 8: people know me. Like I always knew that my life
Speaker 8: was going to take a role that was going to
Speaker 8: be different from anybody else, and I was going to
Speaker 8: be very influential. I always felt that from a young age,
Speaker 8: for when my mama instilled that in me and shit
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 9: I never knew that it.
Speaker 8: Would be through rap music and I never threw it
Speaker 8: would be the opportunity. But I'm real about I've always
Speaker 8: been about energy since younger and I always see opportunities.
Speaker 1: Before they come. And when.
Speaker 8: I heard Kim and bloodshed and may start to rap.
Speaker 8: When we was like fifteen, when Kim moved to the
Speaker 8: East Side and his cousin RF bluodshit, I used to
Speaker 8: pay him callers to do freestyle and not to say
Speaker 8: it like that, nigga, We ain't had no money, but
Speaker 8: this was the thing that I got a call off.
Speaker 8: You getting sixteen and shit like that. You dig Like
Speaker 8: when I started hearing all these niggas was doing it
Speaker 8: and at that young age, and they were doing children
Speaker 8: in the corner and they was being real serious, and
Speaker 8: then they started going into her McGruff and the Big
Speaker 8: l and all that type of ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta stay close to these days.
Speaker 1: Mama's like like, oh, Mama's.
Speaker 8: Like with a little bit that doors that were opening
Speaker 8: when they were younger and ship like that, and me
Speaker 8: being around to be and seeing it be in the game,
Speaker 8: I was like, I need to be a part of
Speaker 8: this ship, like I I gotta stay close because this
Speaker 8: is where I need.
Speaker 1: To be this I can do this. And I didn't
Speaker 1: even know how to rap at the time. You see
Speaker 1: the vision and I knew.
Speaker 9: Who I was, like, Nigga, I could do this ship
Speaker 9: without rapping.
Speaker 1: I just need these people need to know who I am.
Speaker 1: They gonna feel me. You're hurting it.
Speaker 8: I just knew that from very beginners, before we even
Speaker 8: had opportunities, and then as opportunities start getting close, I
Speaker 8: knew that Cam was a precious commodity, and whether he
Speaker 8: knew it or not, I took it upon myself to.
Speaker 1: Do everything I could to help that situation.
Speaker 10: You did.
Speaker 1: Now we got one.
Speaker 9: We are out of here.
Speaker 8: We just got to make sure that we keep him
Speaker 8: safe and everything is gonna be okay, and that was
Speaker 8: always my plan.
Speaker 1: You're heard it. Hold on, I gotta get it out.
Speaker 1: Hold it, hold it, I gotta call it. Hold it.
Speaker 1: Have you been invited on CAM show yet? No? I haven't.
Speaker 9: I haven't been invited on IT shows dope, So I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't lie you.
Speaker 8: They know them niggas do no sports, and they do
Speaker 8: no basketball and shit like that. And what they're doing
Speaker 8: is no different from what we do on the block
Speaker 8: and ship like that. And that's why I got so
Speaker 8: dope because that's the same band so that niggas have
Speaker 8: about sports, right, the bodegga right on the stoop in
Speaker 8: the same language, the same way niggas snapping in the
Speaker 8: midst like it's just you did. But they're real serious
Speaker 8: about the points. They points and angles when it comes
Speaker 8: to sports. In these players they know they ship and
Speaker 8: ship like that.
Speaker 9: So it's dope.
Speaker 8: I do believe that they're going to get a super
Speaker 8: super dope big check off of hope. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's getting is getting in know the writers deserved.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is where this is where it's going,
Speaker 1: is we want our news from us, We want our
Speaker 1: whatever we get, we want.
Speaker 6: To it should always come from the coach. Like our culture.
Speaker 6: Like God bless Skip baylists. We love them, but I
Speaker 6: fuck that. If I got to pick, I'm going camp,
Speaker 6: I'm going, I'm going. I'm supporting Killer, I'm supporting Mace.
Speaker 6: I don't know Skip Bailists, I don't know.
Speaker 1: All I just know is and then Camen got me
Speaker 1: thinking he racist now because they want the black he
Speaker 1: wanted you coach racist?
Speaker 8: Thinking of racist. I tell people this all the time.
Speaker 8: Hip hop is its own race.
Speaker 1: I always say that. I always say that it's a race.
Speaker 1: We've got our own dialects.
Speaker 8: It's a certain language that we got that everybody knows unanimously,
Speaker 8: and it'd be different dialects. So if you come down
Speaker 8: here to Miami, what they say might be different from
Speaker 8: what they.
Speaker 9: Say in Chicago.
Speaker 1: But nobody know what the fuck niggas is saying and
Speaker 1: ship like that this hip hop that's take a shot
Speaker 1: to be racist. Let me just take something I would
Speaker 1: never be racist.
Speaker 6: Like I said, man, I'm so proud of you. I'm
Speaker 6: so proud of your consistency. I'm so proud of your hustle.
Speaker 6: Damn you ain't you, ain't chante none of that.
Speaker 7: Last Now that's that's kind of physic sobriety.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was placed in front of him, but it's
Speaker 8: placing in front of.
Speaker 1: Me because listen, we couldn't have picked a better date
Speaker 1: to interview you.
Speaker 6: Because Drink Champs started out was just giving people, uh, flowers,
Speaker 6: flowers and you know people that's been in the game
Speaker 6: ten years or more. But now it's really about celebrating
Speaker 6: and I'm so proud to celebrate you, Like I'm so
Speaker 6: proud that like hear your roses because because one not
Speaker 6: because you're my friend, because.
Speaker 1: You deserve it, Like you a loyal, dude. I watched
Speaker 1: it for twenty five fucking years. I watched it. I
Speaker 1: ran with this seven. I believe our first fucking toys
Speaker 1: is together. I believe like our first run is together.
Speaker 6: So for me to see you from there and see
Speaker 6: where you're at now and it still be that same nigga,
Speaker 6: like you're just smaller and wiser, I'm so proud of it,
Speaker 6: you know, And I'm so I'm so happy that this
Speaker 6: platform has got bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1: So where I say this now now it means something
Speaker 1: you tell me.
Speaker 7: It always meant something. It always means something when it
Speaker 7: when it.
Speaker 1: Coach Flowers always say this about you.
Speaker 6: But now that now that this platform has become just bigger,
Speaker 6: we can't control it. Now, I'm so glad to give
Speaker 6: you this platform. I'm so glad to tell you how
Speaker 6: much you mean to the coach and how much you
Speaker 6: change the coach.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just said, you know
Speaker 1: about you on your own, fluence, on your own and
Speaker 1: you know your Flowers, you deserve this. This is rare talk,
Speaker 1: like you know, like like you know, like I said.
Speaker 6: I was always with you, but it was always for
Speaker 6: young niggas from my hood telling me like, nigga were
Speaker 6: rocking the dip set and I'm like, we're walking to
Speaker 6: Jim Jones and niggas you have the niggas wearing the.
Speaker 1: Fun the funny jeans and ship. You know. I'm likeas
Speaker 1: got everybody coach, it's so dope. It's so dope what
Speaker 1: you did. It's what you're doing.
Speaker 6: And one thing for short things for certain people from
Speaker 6: our era could do whatever, but.
Speaker 1: You got a hit record now in this era.
Speaker 9: To take off.
Speaker 1: Man. Trust all people from our generations looking back and
Speaker 1: saying this, nigga got a hit and relevant ladies like bro,
Speaker 1: that's why everybody doing shows because niggas can't go back
Speaker 1: in the studio and make that.
Speaker 6: And you making it, and you're making it with niggas
Speaker 6: who want to make it with you. You fucking with
Speaker 6: niggas who want to be around you.
Speaker 1: Y'all dudes change the world and you continue to change
Speaker 1: the world every day. I want to change face to
Speaker 1: face man and man, how proud I am with you,
Speaker 1: But how face the face man, A man, you deserve it.
Speaker 8: I take all those flowers. I appreciate you, my brother,
Speaker 8: thank you, my brother like this, because you.
Speaker 6: Know why, there was a time he was humble. There's
Speaker 6: a time he was almost too humble. He was always
Speaker 6: playing the back seat and you're in the driver seat now.
Speaker 8: I'm sure trying to be humble, but it's hard, I mean,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. But in this game and
Speaker 8: this game, humble don't work too much if you're trying
Speaker 8: to get your point across.
Speaker 1: But in life you need you need to be humble.
Speaker 1: When you're dealing with life, it's and humble at the
Speaker 1: same time. You gotta balance balance its balance.
Speaker 9: I'm grateful for this rap for this rap game.
Speaker 8: I can't say that it's saved my life so many
Speaker 8: times and it's still saving my life.
Speaker 9: Like they put me in a position like no other day.
Speaker 8: Like I don't know if people understand what it is
Speaker 8: to be where we're at, to be able to have
Speaker 8: been through the things we've been through, and like when
Speaker 8: I go home every ninety see that I can still
Speaker 8: feed my family, Like it's like it's it's like you know,
Speaker 8: I'm I guess you.
Speaker 1: Gotta last shot, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: gotta last shot over.
Speaker 9: There, last shot.
Speaker 8: I'm just about to drink this ain't no more shots
Speaker 8: you thisself.
Speaker 9: We're gonna take a shot.
Speaker 8: I just want to say, hip hop has been been
Speaker 8: a savior to me, man.
Speaker 9: I know it's been a savior to you.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna give your flowers the same time they.
Speaker 1: Got me drunk. It's my birthday over a day.
Speaker 8: Shots shots everybody that that that that that helped me
Speaker 8: get here, because it's not just me by myself. People
Speaker 8: like to say that I did this all by myself,
Speaker 8: and I did not do this all by myself. And
Speaker 8: I never say I always say we because I got
Speaker 8: a team behind me, or did I believe in and they.
Speaker 9: Believe in me?
Speaker 1: And you can tell like like I leaned off of
Speaker 1: him being Puerto Rican. I only see happy birthday in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican. I see I see that. I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really, I don't even know that
Speaker 1: thinking in the black ones.
Speaker 7: We want to be mad at Puerto Rican and black.
Speaker 9: I got some Spanish album coming up to so I
Speaker 9: just wanted to put that out.
Speaker 1: I see that.
Speaker 8: A couple of dollars, see you, man, Let me just
Speaker 8: say I appreciate you, my.
Speaker 1: Brother just off of me, brot me tell you something.
Speaker 1: That was the funnest time in my life doing a
Speaker 1: Spanish album. Everyone in our community laughed at me. Everyone
Speaker 1: criticized me, even my even my right hand man e
Speaker 1: F M. Fat Joe. They sat me down in meetings
Speaker 1: do it and was like, niggas, do not do that music.
Speaker 1: I did the music and I'm so notice nobody got stabbed.
Speaker 1: At the end of the night, I was like, I
Speaker 1: did not.
Speaker 9: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't do a good show, because that's how I
Speaker 1: felt like I did a good show, like I get
Speaker 1: stabbed like the boost me.
Speaker 8: You opened up, but you, Bro, you opened up the door,
Speaker 8: like like like you open up Paring Doris box.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's so much money there, bro, it's like going
Speaker 1: to open up its box, like you know when you
Speaker 1: come to a party, you opened up the figure when
Speaker 1: you left. Yeah, how did it? How does it feel? Though?
Speaker 7: What I didn't feel?
Speaker 1: What to be right?
Speaker 7: To be you?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 15: Man?
Speaker 1: I would like to be me. I'm you right now
Speaker 1: busting out things watching like you know, I'm I mean
Speaker 1: whatever you yeah, I got I got to watch.
Speaker 7: It's only three d's.
Speaker 1: Made in the.
Speaker 7: What this shouting, Alex?
Speaker 1: What you have to deal with Alamo.
Speaker 9: Still got them caps in the stores.
Speaker 1: And that's right, that's right, guys.
Speaker 6: Once again, man, let me just say it again. Man,
Speaker 6: I really, I'm really proud of you. I really, I
Speaker 6: really brag about you. You know what I mean, Like
Speaker 6: I tell motherfuckers, a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 6: people always want to be Jordan. And Jordan is great, Scotty.
Speaker 6: People live ahead of her life.
Speaker 1: You know, he's Dan. What is what is?
Speaker 8: What is?
Speaker 6: Nobody can't be great without that capital, without that right
Speaker 6: hand man.
Speaker 1: No one is great without that right hand man.
Speaker 8: And you, I said, Tony, I mean everybody's position, right,
Speaker 8: you got that person is always to do what wasn't
Speaker 8: nobody else is willing to do. But when you understand
Speaker 8: your position, it's gonna be great. On the other side,
Speaker 8: I've been through a lot. I was able to make Nigga.
Speaker 8: I wasn't a rapper bro like the soldiers. For me
Speaker 8: to sit here and talk to you, I know you
Speaker 8: from being like you did now you wanted to.
Speaker 1: Hear us rappers out Nigga Niga. The radio station didn't
Speaker 1: know I was interviewing you. I was going to the
Speaker 1: and we said the trains comes on. I said this, nigga,
Speaker 1: that's crazy because.
Speaker 6: Because right before whenever we do an interview, put the
Speaker 6: music on in here and I put the music on, so.
Speaker 1: We analyzed the person.
Speaker 6: But I'm talking about as soon as we got on,
Speaker 6: we got in the car, we said the trends was
Speaker 6: on and I was just like, Holy ship, this motherfucker
Speaker 6: was doing it in the nineties and doing it now.
Speaker 1: What you're doing has been unprecedented. Keep doing your mother
Speaker 1: really good personally. I'm gonna push for the album. I
Speaker 1: want you to. We're gonna get it together.
Speaker 8: We're gonna get it together, you know what, because everybody
Speaker 8: got good energy right now. Everybody is doing good at
Speaker 8: what they do right now. You think everybody's in their
Speaker 8: own lane. Everybody's flourishing and ship like that. So I
Speaker 8: do believe we'll get a dierent album. You dig I mean,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: But shouts so all my brothers you heard like.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be nothing without them, I wouldn't be here
Speaker 8: without them, and that's one hundred percent effect and ship
Speaker 8: like that. So it's dipset so that we die shout
Speaker 8: to all shouts to all my v L vampire life,
Speaker 8: all my orders.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I got some.
Speaker 8: Music coming out. I got some incredible order. Ship lookout
Speaker 8: for us. We're about to start bombing and ship like that. Like,
Speaker 8: and that's what I'm most excited for. I got a
Speaker 8: group of artists as a boxing ass like. I've been
Speaker 8: working hard, They've been working hard, and we're gonna go up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 8: Besides everything else, I've been doing drip reporters on Refo
Speaker 8: about the.
Speaker 9: Shoot the Late Night Show.
Speaker 18: I got I got shots, got jo, I got I
Speaker 18: got got, I got jo, I got I got John,
Speaker 18: I got glasses, I got I got hot tolerance.
Speaker 1: It's different flavors, different flavors. But but man, let's yo, man,
Speaker 1: We're proud of you. Let's right it up right. I
Speaker 1: gotta leave me.
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