WEBVTT - High Tech Farming

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<v Speaker 1>With Technology textoff from hoom. Hey everyone, welcome to Tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Jonathan Strickland, and today joining me in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio is Scott Benjamin, host of Car Stuff. Hello again,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you Scott great? Thank you again for asking

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<v Speaker 1>me to kind of guest spot on your show, if

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming on. We had some requests from

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<v Speaker 1>our audience to cover a topic that I haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>touched on in the past, is one about how technology

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<v Speaker 1>is shaping agriculture, and uh, it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that honestly, you know, I was amazed at how technology

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<v Speaker 1>is rapidly changing the face of agriculture because in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that's been kind of set

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<v Speaker 1>technologically speaking for decades, and it just shows how how

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant I was of the whole thing. I had just

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit of insight on this from our listener

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<v Speaker 1>and our listening audience. UM. Back in two thousand ten,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did an episode about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff that was happening back then. But

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<v Speaker 1>even since two thousand and ten, there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of advances. But we have a few listeners in our

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<v Speaker 1>audience that, um, you know, their their ranch hands or

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<v Speaker 1>work on the farm, and they listen to the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>as they you know, or killing the fields or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing tending to the herd. And um, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what would be really interesting I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people know about this is just how

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<v Speaker 1>advanced tractors are becoming, Just how advanced, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>barnes themselves are becoming. It's not just that just the machinery.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also you know, everything that goes around around growing

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<v Speaker 1>or or um harvesting and like maximum potential yields. All

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<v Speaker 1>that has to do with with modern technology more or

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<v Speaker 1>less now, I guess, um, it's all becoming pushed far

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<v Speaker 1>more into the future than you would ever think. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and it's interesting because we're at a time where

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing a decreasingly small percentage of the population being

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to the roles of ranching and farming. Right if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at United States history, this is particularly true

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<v Speaker 1>in the U S, but you can see it in

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<v Speaker 1>other places as well. If you look at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the twentieth century, so around nineteen hundred or so,

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<v Speaker 1>about half of the population of the United States were farmers,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get to and before that was even

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<v Speaker 1>larger numbers um percentage wise. You know, obviously the population

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<v Speaker 1>itself was smaller, but percentage wise it was. There were

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<v Speaker 1>many more farmers. And what happened was this little thing

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<v Speaker 1>called the Industrial Revolution. You've probably heard that term, Scott, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured you might. So the Industrial revolution actually meant

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanization of lots of different industries, including agriculture. And

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<v Speaker 1>so around nineteen hundred, your chief means of operating the

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<v Speaker 1>various machine in agriculture were it was horsepower, literal horsepower,

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<v Speaker 1>actually using horses. Yeah, it wasn't until the nineteen twenties

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties the tractors really started to get traction in agriculture.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, oh boy, I'm gonna have to leave. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it's I've lost so many co hosts this way. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, Chris, Chris was way worse about puns

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<v Speaker 1>than I was. He was king. Yeah, but at any rate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So so you get to the nineteen fifties, nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers start increasing. But as the mechanization increases, the

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<v Speaker 1>number or the percentage of population that needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>farmers or ranchers decreased because you didn't need that much labor, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to offload the labor to to mechanization

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<v Speaker 1>to some extent. Sure, Well, how many times have we

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<v Speaker 1>heard in the path, I mean, in the past decade

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<v Speaker 1>even that very soon the world population is going to

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<v Speaker 1>outpace the capability that we have to produce food for

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<v Speaker 1>that population. And it's always, I mean, I've I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>this for a long long time. It's not just ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty thirty years or even even longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably I just haven't been privy to that information. But

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<v Speaker 1>it always seems like they say the world's population will

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<v Speaker 1>exceed the world's capacity to produce food by the year X,

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<v Speaker 1>and the year X is always about twenty years out,

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<v Speaker 1>ten or twenty years out, and and it always seems

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<v Speaker 1>like we always overcome then some way. So and then

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<v Speaker 1>this is I found this interesting. I found an article

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<v Speaker 1>um in the Guardian from Feen that was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>developing nations and uh some innovations, some revolutionary farming innovations,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said that in the last fifty years agricultural

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<v Speaker 1>production has actually tripled in the last fifty years. That's amazing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is you're saying that the number of farmers

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<v Speaker 1>has gone down, the number the amount of production has

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<v Speaker 1>tripled in the last fifty years. So they're becoming more efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>And every year that's a challenge for them to become

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<v Speaker 1>more and more efficient with less and less people, less

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<v Speaker 1>and less property to do so because uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the farmland is at a premium right now in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of countries, are a lot of places that

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<v Speaker 1>um um, they're they're severe government restrictions on the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of space that you're allowed to use for a farm.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're building structures, you know, so that they're building

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<v Speaker 1>up instead of out. Um, And that's a way to

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<v Speaker 1>increase efficiency and and it really productivity and yields from

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<v Speaker 1>their crops no matter what it is, it's tomatoes, cucumbers,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it happens to be. Uh, some of these things

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<v Speaker 1>that they're even finding that building um, you know, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference, Like instead of building a six ft roof

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<v Speaker 1>or an eight foot roof on a greenhouse, if they

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<v Speaker 1>put a twelve foot roof on a greenhouse, they can

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<v Speaker 1>double production. And I think it was tomatoes and cucumbers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty incredible. Yeah, So things like that small things

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<v Speaker 1>like that can make a big, big difference. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're talking about the increase in population. The number

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to find if you do some searches on

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<v Speaker 1>this on Google. I think the number that's most frequently

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<v Speaker 1>cited is about by twenty fifty, we're looking at nine

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<v Speaker 1>point two billion people on Earth. Yeah. I have today's number,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Okay, I looked at it just this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>so as of today, it's about seven point three billion people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I watched the counter for a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a pretty interesting site called um it's called world

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<v Speaker 1>ometers dot info and it's just a world population clock really,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can watch all kinds of numbers as they

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<v Speaker 1>go up and down depending on what you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>But pretty fascinating. Seven point three billion as of now,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's steadily clicking up. That's pretty Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's amazing. It's also a little sobering because once

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<v Speaker 1>we hit nine point two billion people, the other estimations

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<v Speaker 1>say that at that point by we will need to

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<v Speaker 1>have him increased food production from today's standards by another

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<v Speaker 1>seventy okay question here though, all right, here's here's now

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<v Speaker 1>they know the numbers are staggering. And if you look

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<v Speaker 1>back at that way, you look at that site that

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<v Speaker 1>I was just talking about today, and I didn't write

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<v Speaker 1>down all these numbers because it was just way too much.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of information there, and it's it's all stats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty fascinating site. But they said that in

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just to give you an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy there were roughly half as many people

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<v Speaker 1>in the world as there are today. That means we've

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<v Speaker 1>doubled since nineteen seventy. That's short amount of time. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they say that due to growth rate decreases, it'll take

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<v Speaker 1>about two hundred years for that population to double again.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I look at that number and I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people were there in nineteen seventy There must

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<v Speaker 1>have been um, roughly three and a half billion people. Ballpark. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about going from you know, seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half billion up to fifteen billion people. That's why, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an additional seven and a half billion people instead

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<v Speaker 1>of four billion people. So maybe that's the reason. But still, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the disparity between the number of you know, what is

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<v Speaker 1>that forty five years and you know um two hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's an incredible amount of time. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 1>how does all that factor into I mean, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many numbers here at play that I had a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time figuring out where we stand as far as when

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<v Speaker 1>the food's going to run out. Well, and it gets

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<v Speaker 1>even more complicated than that's Scott, because all so we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing more countries kind of emerge from developing to getting

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<v Speaker 1>to developed status, as as people become more affluent, as

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<v Speaker 1>they as middle classes begin to emerge in various populations.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the first markers of that is that people

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<v Speaker 1>want access to a better diet that includes more variety

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<v Speaker 1>of foods and a higher quality of those foods. So

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<v Speaker 1>not only are we going to need to increase production

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<v Speaker 1>in order to meet the needs of a growing population,

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<v Speaker 1>but we need to make sure that that is a

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<v Speaker 1>varied approach, not like well we'll just we'll just grow

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<v Speaker 1>more rice or more grains of some sort. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to actually be a variety of foods, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to start really looking at strategies um for

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<v Speaker 1>multiple reasons. And so I'm wondering when you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>your research here we're going into ag tech, did you

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<v Speaker 1>come across the term precision agriculture. This is exciting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is. I mean, it really comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to what you would call, I guess a smart farm. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that's a term or if

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<v Speaker 1>that's something I came up with her I came across

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<v Speaker 1>it somewhere, but but it does seem to me like

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<v Speaker 1>it's smart farming. And exactly that's exactly right, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just in the same way that you would think of

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<v Speaker 1>a smart home. This is very apt. But precision farming.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that it seems so odd because that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we never would have heard of. Maybe ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, fifteen years ago. It just wasn't that way

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<v Speaker 1>it was, and it wasn't haphazard by any means. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just that it wasn't to the to the inch

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<v Speaker 1>precise as it is today. I mean, sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>farmer would tell till his road, um in his road,

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<v Speaker 1>his field in straight rows, and he would know that

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<v Speaker 1>I can get roughly this amount of seeds in this row,

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<v Speaker 1>and et cetera. But now we're down to planning to

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<v Speaker 1>the very inch to get that maximum yield and to

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<v Speaker 1>the very second, like not just not just in in distance,

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<v Speaker 1>but in time as well. So in ages past, you

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<v Speaker 1>knew you planted in the spring and you would harvest

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall. But with precision agriculture, it is not

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<v Speaker 1>a joke to say you're going to want to plant

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday. Like you can end up getting data that

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<v Speaker 1>is so precise, and it's dependent upon multiple factors. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about a lot of different technologies and

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<v Speaker 1>processes that have to work for precision agriculture to work.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna run down some of them. You

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<v Speaker 1>need sensors. Those sensors are going to detect things like humidity,

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<v Speaker 1>the moisture level in the in the soil, the actual

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<v Speaker 1>acidity of the soil, the chemical composition. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>have other sensors that can detect when plants need water.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually a sensor that is a leaf sensor. It

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<v Speaker 1>attaches to a leaf and it measures the change in

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<v Speaker 1>voltage that happens when the leaf contracts. Now, a contracting

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<v Speaker 1>leaf is an indicator that the plant needs water. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get imagine you are a farmer and you

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<v Speaker 1>get alert on your smartphone that says you need to

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<v Speaker 1>water the fields today. Because this is an early indicator

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<v Speaker 1>that the plants are are quote unquote thirsty, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty incredible. I used to work in a nursery and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like a tree nursery, not not a baby nursery, but

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<v Speaker 1>a tree nursery, and uh, you know some of these

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<v Speaker 1>hot summer days in July and August. I'll tell how

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<v Speaker 1>we knew when we had to water is what we

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the field of trees, you know, the entire

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<v Speaker 1>nursery and said, it looks like they're a little wilted

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<v Speaker 1>with better throw some water on the plants, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we did. I mean, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of seat of the pants stuff. And and

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<v Speaker 1>there's less and less seat of the pants farming going

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<v Speaker 1>on now. It's more precise, as you said. And those

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<v Speaker 1>sensors I mean that you mentioned. It's not just that

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<v Speaker 1>there's sensors and you have to go to a central

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<v Speaker 1>location even to to read or monitor those. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to. You can some of them will send mobile

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<v Speaker 1>alert to the farmer via smartphone. Yeah. They're all these

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<v Speaker 1>these systems now that you can put in place at

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<v Speaker 1>your farm that allows these sensors to interact with a

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<v Speaker 1>network and alert you to minute changes so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can make big decisions with the best technology, the best

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<v Speaker 1>information available. Other tech that you will see in precision

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<v Speaker 1>agriculture include satellites or drones, and these are specifically to

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<v Speaker 1>monitor the status of crops throughout the year so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can determine what the maturity level of the crops

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be at any given point. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to harvest the crops at the right maturity level

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<v Speaker 1>so that you minimize crop loss because obviously if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you go too early, then stuff isn't right yet,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna be able to sell all the crops

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<v Speaker 1>that you harvest if you go too late. Same sort

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<v Speaker 1>of problem, except of course on the other side of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you want to be able to get the crops.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to harvest them when it's absolutely at their peak,

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<v Speaker 1>and that way you maximize the yield, you minimize the loss.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all different factors that go into the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of precision agriculture. Meanwhile, on the on the offtware side,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have computer algorithms that are incredibly sophisticated

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can crunch these numbers and make it

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful information that farmers can act on. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>they provide information that can can build maps, visual visual

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<v Speaker 1>representations of what your field it looks like, What what

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<v Speaker 1>the terrain you're talking about looks like. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where their hot spots are, where the plants are growing

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<v Speaker 1>and their best where they're not growing quite so? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what the reasons could be behind that. They may analyze, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why this this one sector of the field

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<v Speaker 1>isn't maybe producing as much as it possibly could, versus

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<v Speaker 1>the sector that's just one yards away yet is is overproducing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's producing more than they expected. And why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they can you know, learn something from that section

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<v Speaker 1>or sector and uh and incorporate that into the next

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<v Speaker 1>year's crop, right And uh, you know, it's an excellent

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<v Speaker 1>point you make, because one thing we have to keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind is a lot of the farms in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. Okay, if you're looking at farms, Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming majority of farms in the US our familyly owned

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<v Speaker 1>and operated, right ninety Like in the nine upper ninety percentile.

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<v Speaker 1>Only less than five percent of farms in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States are owned by non family operated corporations. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though they're they're huge, we're talking about like craft would

0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.680
<v Speaker 1>own a giant farm or something like. Right, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they would they would grow their own products, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>or monsanto or you know there's tons of them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but at any rate, uh that that only that only

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<v Speaker 1>accounts for less than five percent of all the farms

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. However, the midsized farms are slowly

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<v Speaker 1>getting edged out. In the U S. You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of small farms that are doing all right, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in markets where there's a high value placed on organic

0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.520
<v Speaker 1>farming that kind of thing, and local is localized farming, um,

0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's mostly turning into really big farms and small

0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.640
<v Speaker 1>farms in the midsized farms are starting to get weeded out.

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<v Speaker 1>But with those big farms, you can have such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge farm that it is completely possible that one part

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<v Speaker 1>of your land is getting adequate moisture from a weather

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<v Speaker 1>system moving through and another part isn't. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of technology. These sensors, the the drones, and

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<v Speaker 1>the satellite imagery are the kind of things that tell you, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the southern part of my farm is fine, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>weather system came through provide enough water, but the northern

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<v Speaker 1>part is in need. Of irrigating, so then you can

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<v Speaker 1>irrigate just the parts of your farm that needed saving water.

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<v Speaker 1>It also means that one of the important technologies with

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<v Speaker 1>precision agriculture is incredibly accurate weather forecasting. It's incredibly important.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can extrapolate this too ranching as well for

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<v Speaker 1>livestock and herds, because you know, they're they're enormous ranches

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas and California, Montana, Montana that are are the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same thing you're talking about, where weather systems moved

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<v Speaker 1>through and only affect maybe the southern or a southeastern

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<v Speaker 1>corner of that of that ranch. And it's very possible that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ranchers might decide I'm gonna move my

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<v Speaker 1>my flock, my herd out of that region in time

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid that blizzard or that that that horrific thunderstorm

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to come through on Wednesday, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it happens to be. So ranchers deal with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the same things. And of course we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about food production still, so all kind of ties in.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say one more thing about drones before we

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<v Speaker 1>move on? In fact, maybe a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, but of course there's the obvious uses for

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<v Speaker 1>them monitoring crops. UM you know, looking at you know,

0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.480
<v Speaker 1>distant or remote locations that UM or are difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>get to for a farmer, so that you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can daily fly a drone up the hillside and look

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<v Speaker 1>at your your coffee crop or whatever happens to be. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people that use terraced farms, you know for

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<v Speaker 1>space and and UM you know, just irrigation capabilities I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know whatever, so that it's the most optimal

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<v Speaker 1>way to grew crops. It might be the most difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to also reach by foot so or by vehicle. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>drones kind of eliminate all that. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that is really really important is that UM drones are

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<v Speaker 1>capable of delivering fertilizer and insecticide at precise locations. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the maps that we just talked about. With

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<v Speaker 1>the software programs that create maps and and show you

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how crops are growing in certain regions or sectors,

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<v Speaker 1>you can precisely accurately deliver the right amount of insecticides

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<v Speaker 1>or or pesticides or whatever happens to be that you

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<v Speaker 1>need in that area to that just that one sector

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<v Speaker 1>via a drone, you know as a sprayer underneath. And

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<v Speaker 1>whether we're talking about you know, small helicopters or um

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<v Speaker 1>you know the quad copters that we see often kind

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<v Speaker 1>of eight eight one of the octicopters. Um they replace,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know the guys that would fly in those

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<v Speaker 1>crop dusters. Have you ever seen a crop duster in action? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they are fascinating, are they. I mean you see

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<v Speaker 1>those guys are like daredevils. I mean it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>best um um air shows on you've ever seen when

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<v Speaker 1>you see them going really i mean remarkably low low

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<v Speaker 1>LT street. What's it's startling if you're in let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that you're driving through the Midwest, You're in Indiana, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in there, and uh, you know, maybe two yards

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of you you see an airplane buzz through that's

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<v Speaker 1>low enough that it would strike a semi if there

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.120
<v Speaker 1>was a semi on the road. It's that low. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going underwires. It's it's amazing. Uh. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous profession. In fact, it often falls into the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten dangerous professions list every year. Usually it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>two or you know, number two, three, four somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>there behind UH, fishers, you know, anybody who's fishing Alaskan

0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.240
<v Speaker 1>fishermen or whatever. Yeah, that's why they call it deadliest catch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and loggers. Loggers I think are usually like number one

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<v Speaker 1>and two between fishers and loggers. And then UH, aircraft pilots.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they kind of lumped them in with airline pilots,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like UM passenger airlines and uh like bush pilots.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush pilots and crop dusters likely account for most of

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<v Speaker 1>the deaths in that because of the terrain that they

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<v Speaker 1>fly and how low they fly, right, the conditions are

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<v Speaker 1>inherently more risk exactly right. And wind farms, now we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even talked about from it, but wind farming, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a huge danger for crop dusters, for human

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<v Speaker 1>crop dusters, because they often strike those poles or strike

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<v Speaker 1>the the rotors of course, you know, because they're flying

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<v Speaker 1>in these extremely fast, low vehicles, and their their focused,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, is on the crops. It's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>on that new wind turbine post that's just putting put

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<v Speaker 1>up by within the last month or so, or the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty others that are in that field. So it can

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<v Speaker 1>be very dangerous and and I'm glad that you know

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<v Speaker 1>some of these some of these drones are able to

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<v Speaker 1>cancel out the need for crop dusting pilots in some cases.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it would be a pretty good adrenaline rush to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Yeah, I don't know that I would need

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<v Speaker 1>that much adrenaline rushed in me, but yes, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>that it certainly would be. I think it'd be fun,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be I imagine, Uh, you know, other things

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<v Speaker 1>to consider with this precision agriculture. I mean, there's tons

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<v Speaker 1>more we could talk about. For example, Uh, they often

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<v Speaker 1>will even explain what sort of crops would grow best

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in different types of soil. And keep in mind these

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<v Speaker 1>crops all. You know, if there's one particular crop you're

0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.479
<v Speaker 1>you're planning on growing in part of your land, the

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<v Speaker 1>timing might be totally different to plant, Like for for

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<v Speaker 1>the ideal setting might be totally different to plant those

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<v Speaker 1>seeds than the next one, which means that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to start taking other complicated planning into account, like how

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<v Speaker 1>do you plant crops for one crop? Then let's say

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<v Speaker 1>three more weeks would go by before you have to

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<v Speaker 1>plant the next section would be a totally different crop.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you do that in a way that's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to damage the crops you first plant it. I

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<v Speaker 1>have also seen where farmers have planted soybeans in between

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<v Speaker 1>other crops. Now I don't remember if it was if

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<v Speaker 1>it was cotton and soybeans or what it happened to be,

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's like mixed crops in the same field. That

0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was unusual. So so that's one way around it. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's also um I know from Indiana again, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a there's winter wheat you can grow in

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<v Speaker 1>the downtime. So like let's say you've got a summer

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<v Speaker 1>crop of corn or whatever it happens to be, you

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<v Speaker 1>can also plant a crop of winter wheat that that

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<v Speaker 1>takes up the time the rest of the year when

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<v Speaker 1>you can't grow corn. Yeah, And so this will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly when to plant each one of those crops

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<v Speaker 1>and when to when to bring it in fertilizer levels

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that I mean, I guess soil levels that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to to watch for each crop. You know, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>would let you know when you would need to add

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<v Speaker 1>fertilizer to those those fields as well, including telling you, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it next week, when when it would be

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<v Speaker 1>ideal because there's going to be a storm the following day,

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<v Speaker 1>which would just wash the fertilizer away. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>want to wait until that weather front moves through and

0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.280
<v Speaker 1>then do it. Like this is really valuable. So it

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 1>even goes to the transportation of food. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about making sure you maximize your yield,

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<v Speaker 1>that includes the time of after harvesting, but before you

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<v Speaker 1>get it to wherever it's going to be sold. Obviously,

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the transportation can result in crop loss as well, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in areas that might not have a lot of developed roads,

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<v Speaker 1>like in Brazil. Brazil has a lot of roads that

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<v Speaker 1>are dirt roads. So knowing that it's going to rain

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<v Speaker 1>in a certain region, you might say, well, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to route all of our traffic. We're gonna be proactive

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<v Speaker 1>about this and take these other routes because otherwise trucks

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<v Speaker 1>might get stuck in the mud and we might lose

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<v Speaker 1>our crops because it may take a day or two longer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it may cost a little bit more, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a higher yield from that field. And

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<v Speaker 1>if it works that way, Yeah, I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm piecing this all together. I think that's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that every dollar that the farmer spends getting the crop

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<v Speaker 1>or getting the crop to the market to be sold

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<v Speaker 1>is just a dollar out of his pocket essentially at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. I mean, he's trying to maximize profits as

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<v Speaker 1>well as maximize the the yield of that product. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's I mean, it's it's a really interesting and

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.160
<v Speaker 1>complicated picture. Like the more you look at the more

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you realize, Wow, I didn't appreciate how complex this is.

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>And of course, you know, keeping in mind things like

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to be able to rotate crops through your

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 1>various fields in order to keep the soil healthy. If

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you just continuously grow the same crops on the same land, uh,

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 1>that can start depleting nutrients in the soil, and so

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>rotating that is really important. So this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that gives the people who are cultivating the

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<v Speaker 1>land way more information like that so that they can

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 1>they can do the best to have uh great yields.

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<v Speaker 1>They are minimizing the environmental impact of what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in their best interest in the long run

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So it's it's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>the big data, the sensors, the automation, all of this

0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff is coming together to really uh uh maximize their

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<v Speaker 1>effectiveness while minimizing their impact, and it benefits all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>What if you take soil out of the mix, though,

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<v Speaker 1>What if you do uh? What if hydroponics? Hydroponics? I

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>mean that's been around since sixteen twenty seven I found out. Wow,

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. You know, it's funny. The first time

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I encountered hydroponics was at um Epcots. Yeah. I was

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>just about to say it had to be Epcot Center

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>at the land. Yeah, that's right. The land is that

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>you were driving through, a riding through, I guess on

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the on the boat, um, and it's all you know,

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>hanging plants and they're watering them with a mist every

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that's very particularly or specifically timed for that specific plant.

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 1>You're just seeing the roots of the plants, no soil

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>at all. Um. There's also another kind of twist on

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing, and that's aquaponics. Aquaponics is where they grow. Um. Well,

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's not just one thing. They can grow

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a number of different things, but it's plants and animals

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that grow in an ecosystem that is balanced, so there's

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>no waste like um, I read where they're growing plants

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and fish in the same place, and the result is

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that there's no wastewater, there's no um insecticides used anything

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>like that. Um, it's it's all um one system that

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>works together symbiotically nice. And the thing is that at

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the the end result is that you get organic produce

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and fresh toxin free fish from the same from the

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>same the same sort of same building. You know, it's

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>an interior thing that happen indoor thing. Um. But it's

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty smart in the way they put it together.

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure that takes years of planning. Oh sure, Yeah.

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>None of the solutions we're talking about are particularly simple

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>to implement, right. They require a huge investment of both

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>time and money. But you know, everyone's gotta eat so

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>so ultimately it's one of those things where you say, well,

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>we have to do this. I mean, it's not like

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>we have the option, so we just have to find

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the best way to do it in a smart way.

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>And what about the the idea of shared knowledge? Now,

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>because that is something that this is so important. I

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>mean that the high tech angle, I guess a soportant

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>for farmers now because they can use they can use forms,

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>they can use just simple text messages to other farmers

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>down the road. I mean, it could be that easy.

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>It's usually a little bit more complex than it's groups

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>or forums as I mentioned, but um shared knowledge, you know,

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 1>they can share best practices. They can they can say

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I've never heard of that before. But

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got five people on this site. We

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>can together, we can come up with a solution prior

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to what ten years ago that was unheard of. Yeah,

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean you might have a local gathering occasionally, but

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>even that would be of mostly small farm operators. And

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>can I just say this that I have never ever

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>met a farmer or rancher that I haven't found to

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>be incredibly intelligent. Oh yeah, I mean they all seem

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>just so smart and it's and it's it's it's like

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>real world smart. You know, they just know so much

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>about what they do, and it seems like they're just

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>so in touch with with everything that they have to

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 1>h have to deal with. I mean, the whether it's

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the animals, the plants, um just in with people. It

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>just seems like I've never ever met any farmer or

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>rancher that isn't just just top match intelligence well, and

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and to put them all together in one place, that's

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a that's a great place to solve problems. Yeah, I

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>think of them very much like engineers. They they act

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>as engineers, it's just they their training is through a different,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, branch than traditional engineering happens to be. But

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they are all about looking at problems and solving them.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>And the tools we've talked about are all about giving

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 1>them even more agency to do that sort of thing.

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>One other thing I wanted to to mention is that,

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, I talked about how mechanization really started to

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>cut down on the number as far as the percentage

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>of population of farmers. We're going to see that continue, obviously,

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>especially now that we are in an age of automation.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>We have gone beyond mechanization to automation, to the point

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>where sometimes we're talking about autonomous automation. It's not just

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that it's an automated system, it's one that is working

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 1>without direct human guidance. We're starting to see that being

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>introduced in various parts of agriculture. So one of the

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 1>things I was looking at, I looked at some robot harvesters,

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>which are pretty awesome. There was one in particular that

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>was designed to automatically trim lettuce. It's a lettuce trimming robots. Yeah.

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>It used digital imaging to measure exactly where to trim,

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and it could trim one hundred times faster than a

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>human fat. Yeah, so you wouldn't think it's fascinating, but

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>when you really think about what that is doing, what

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that what that is, what that machine is is capable

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of and from what I understand, they were able with

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.479
<v Speaker 1>that kind of technology to increase yield by as much

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>as ten percent. Now you're going a hundred times faster

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and you're thinking, how can you only do ten percent

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>yield increase, Well, you still have to wait for the

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>plants to grow, Okay, So yeah, I guess the the

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>awaiting time would just be longer than it would be

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>done with the up and you're just waiting waiting for

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the harvest. Right, So you could end up having waves

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of of yields coming across because obviously you want to

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>be able to provide produce as as frequently throughout the

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>year as possible. And you know, here in the United

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>States we are incredibly fortunate to live in a in

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>a country that is affluent and has relationships with other

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>parts of the world where we can import a lot

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of vegetables, so that even in the dead of winter,

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>we can get access to stuff because it's being grown

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the world. We can get access to stuff

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that probably is not growing in most of the United

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>States at that time. And I know that there are

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>ways that they're increasing the speed that these uh the

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>plants come to maturity as well. So yeah, so I

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>mean they're they're they're quickly developing that as well, so

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that instead of being able to grow two to three

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>crops a year, you might be able to grow, you know,

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>five to six crops a year. Yeah, and and you're

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>able to maximize your your fields use so that it's

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>not laying fallow for long times of the year. It's

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty incredible. Other automated devices. I have looked into

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>our automated planters, so these are planting vehicles. That actually

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>saw one in action on a video and it was

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>really interesting. So the video I watched had um engineering students,

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>agricultural engineering students who were working with various manufacturers who

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>would provide them the stuff that they would need to

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>build out these automated devices. The automated planter, there's a

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>guy behind the wheel. He starts driving it and he says,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm gonna push this button, and he pushes

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the button inside the vehicle and then he takes his

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>hands off the wheel and you see the wheel operating itself.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And what was happening was the automated planter was working

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>with a GPS device and a pregenerated satellite map of

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>where the crops needed to go, located by GPS coordinates,

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and it is literally following. It's like like if you'd

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>used Google Maps to give yourself driving directions. It was

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>essentially following driving directions, except in this case, it's planting

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>directions precise yeah, which is incredible because it knows how

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>many seeds to put down per inch, It knows exactly

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>where to go, exactly how many rows there should be.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Amazing stuff I have. I've seen a few of these

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>things and it does just blow your mind when you

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>realize how accurate they are and what they're in, the

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>technology that they're using, the you know, what they're using

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to be able to be that accurate. It's almost like

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it's more accurate than the farmer could be sitting in

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the vehicle. Really yeah, and it really is. Yeah. I mean,

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're talking about the capability of measuring down

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to fractions of an inch, and you know we as humans,

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>we can do that, but it takes us, granted, a

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>lot more time. And this this speeds things up considerably.

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I also saw weeding robots because I could use that

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>at home. Oh yeah, me too. One of the best

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>things about weeding robots is that obvious sleep It would

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.479
<v Speaker 1>mean that you could cut down on herbicides. You wouldn't

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>need to use as much herbicide to kill off weeds

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and preserve your crops. You could use a weeding robot

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Now, if you're if you're looking at

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a way of growing your crops and you don't want

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to use herbicides for whatever reason, maybe it affects your

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>crops negatively. Hand weeding is pretty much your your big bet,

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and that means either you're literally pulling the weeds out

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>by hand or you're using a hoe. Either way, it's

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>backbreaking work. It's slow, and it's not efficient. It's not

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>efficient use of time, and it requires a lot of labor.

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>So weeding robots tend to be something that you you

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>tow behind another vehicle, so they are just automatically looking

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>for weeds. And by looking, I mean they're using cameras

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>or infrared sensors and they're using digital image recognition software

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to tell the difference between a weed and a crop

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and anything that's weeds gotta go. But they're even engineers

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>working on building at honomous ones like the Hordabot project

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in Denmark that's an autonomous weeding robot. Now right now,

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they're more popular in Europe than they are in the

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>United States because in Europe there are much stricter regulations

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>as far as the use of herbicides and pesticides are concerned.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>In the United States, those restrictions haven't reached that same level,

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>so there's less incentive to invest in this other technology

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>because we already have an infrastructure for pesticides and herbicides.

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>But assuming that that eventually changes, will probably see that

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>migrate over here to the United States as well. And

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>just the thought of having a robot out there taking

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>care of all that without having to actually do it

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself is pretty pretty awesome. Yeah, So, you know, the

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>technology stands to really benefit us in lots of ways.

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Any others that you want to talk about before we

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>transition to our our other kind of the dark side

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>of technology and agriculture version of what you were just

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about. That weeding machine, it's gonna come up. How

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>about at the end of the podcast, we'll talk about

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>some farm hacks. That sounds great and again low tech,

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's a it's an interesting development, yeah, because part

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of the thing, like, like we were saying, farmers, ranchers,

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>they are the problem solvers. Sometimes that means they come

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>up with creative ways to use pre existing technology in

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>perhaps methods that weren't originally intended small scale, large scale,

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>all scales really. Yeah, but before we get into that,

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about tractors. I'm excited about this. Yeah, yeah,

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Now I know you would be, Scott because it deals

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot with not just agriculture, but there is a

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of crossover to the automotive world and what we're

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about. So the great side of of

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>this ag tech we've been talking about is that it

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>can potentially very much increase uh, the efficiency of farms.

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>It can end up decreasing the amount of work needed

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to do. However, there is a flip side to this.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>The flip side is as technology increases in sophistication, it

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>becomes much more difficult to do any d I Y maintenance, repair, tweaking,

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>any of that. It gets harder and hard to do.

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>And we're seeing that now, not just in these giant

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like cloud based services we were talking about, but in tractors.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>This is a great source of frustration among farmers today

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>is that the modern tractor is much like the automobile,

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>nearly impossible to diagnose and repair on your own, you know,

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 1>in the in the barn, in the field wherever. Um.

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, days of you know, being able to use,

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>as they said in this article from Wired, using you know,

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 1>making a duct tape and baling wire repair. Uh, it's

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's becoming, you know, less and less possible for stuff

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 1>like that to happen, because now we're dealing with much

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>more or many more UM electronic components, you know, modules

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that that talk each other on a can bus system

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>UM that you know is controlled by one central computer,

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and in order to access that computer you have to

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 1>have very specific diagnostic tools and connectors and UM factory

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>passwords that you know, you just have no idea what

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>those passwords are because they vary between make and model

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>in different years. And um, it's becoming very very complex

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>for the common uh, modern farmer to be able to

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and I don't mean common by the sure the average farmer,

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the average farmer to be able to make his machinery

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>work in an optimal way as he could in the past.

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean whether it's adjusting the timing on the tractor,

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>or something's just out of calibration. You need to reset that. Uh,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it's becoming virtually impossible to do that without the proper tools.

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And these tools are very expensive. Or there's a flip

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>side of this, some of them even require a technician

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to be brought to the tractor because you can't just

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't drive it down to the dealership. You can't

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>throw it on the on a trailer and haul it

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.959
<v Speaker 1>into town. Um. It's much more complexness because we're talking

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>about machines that are two stories high have twelve wheels. Uh,

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they are. There are half a million dollar machines now

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm no joke, there are half a million

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars in some cases. Uh. In this article we read

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 1>on Wired again, I think you're talking about a mid

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>rains tractor, and the mid rains tractors were you know,

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>somewhere above one hundred thousand dollars. So these are very

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>very expensive machines and it could be incredibly frustrating for

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>farmers to to realize that. Well, you know, we just

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about how important it is that you know, you

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>plant this this uh this crop on noon or at

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>noon on Wednesday. Well, what happens when that machine goes

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>down and you have to fly on a technician in

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>order to repair that machine, right, and it's and then

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>three days have gone by and you still haven't planted

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>any Yeah, and your and your tractor is still stuck

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the field because you know, some

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>modules not communicating to another module. But you can't do

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>anything about that until you get the technician there. And meanwhile,

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you're watching the estimations of your yield drops steadily, Yeah,

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're getting those stupid smartphone alert Oh man, you're

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you're really messing up this crap. What hey, buddy, you

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>get off your button. Start planning. Can't becoming more and

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>more you know, insulting as the day goes on. Right, So,

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>so just like like cars have their own little control units.

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Tractors like you mentioned have them that they tend to

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>be called tractor engine control units or or t e

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>c use tech wus and yeah, they're they're They're also

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>often proprietary, kind of like we've talked about proprietary connectors

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>here on on tech stuff before. This is where you

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>don't use a universal connector. You have very specific ones

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>that work with that particular technology. And if you don't

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>own that, and generally speaking, these are things that are

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>not sold to the public, then you cannot get access.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>You cannot easily access the the the computer that's aboard

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the tractor. I talked about this all the time, like

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I remember, I hate to shame any company, but I'm

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>want to do it in this case. Uh well, I

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 1>mean Apple is a great example. Apple's connectors are all

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>proprietary to Apple. But Sony was very much the same way.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember having a Sony camera and it had a

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>USB connector, but the end connector was proprietary. You couldn't

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>just go out and buy a mini USB or micro

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>USB and use that pair that with your Sony camera.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>You had to go out and buy a very expensive

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Sony one or try and find some off brand knockoff

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that may or may not work with your camera. Well,

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>imagine that frustration magnified to a hundred thousand dollar or

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>more machine, an investment, a significant investment that not only

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a significant investment, but you're the success of your

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>business depends upon it working, and you can't even find

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 1>out why it's no longer working. So the article talks

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.720
<v Speaker 1>about how there was The author talks about a farmer

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>friend who had called the author out to check on

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the tractor. Right, the tractor was no longer working. There

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>was a sensor that was burning out, and what they

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>were trying to do is find a way to route

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the tractors systems around the sensor so that the tractor

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>could at least be operational until the sensor could be replaced.

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So there's a proper repairs, right. And the issue that

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the author found was that the system was completely inaccessible. Uh,

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>not that it was physically inaccessible in the sense that

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>there was no way to get to the computer, but

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>there was no way to connect to it. So I

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>guess in that sense it's physically inaccessible and it's all

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>running on proprietary software. So there was no way to

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>even see how the system works, let alone reroute anything. Now,

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>this is a little different than cars because cars recently

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and since I think, have had the same diagnostic port

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>underneath the steering right now, you can you can reach

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>around under your car and feel it there. You've probably had,

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody at the local oil change place plug

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>into that just to get stats of your vehicle, you know,

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>like the last time you're there and you're going for

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 1>an emissions test or exactly right. Yeah, So there are

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>standards in automobiles and and that's not the case with

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>these tractors. And and I have a feeling that you

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>in the next decade or so, some of that's going

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>to be ironed out that you know, there's gonna be

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>some some some type of uniformity among the tracker manufacturers.

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>That's going to help out just a little bit. But

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>still that doesn't really, that doesn't help a whole lot

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 1>because unless they conform to a standard um UM software

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>package I guess that that operates all these it's not

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna do much good unless you have you know that

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>as well, and they can still hang onto that unless

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 1>part of this whole legislation thing includes that they have

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to use these a certain like like a standardized approach

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>across the board. Yeah, and I don't see that happening.

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm off base here.

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's not going to be controlled the way the

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>automobile industry is. Maybe it's going to be a little different,

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe it'll be a little tougher. But I also kind

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>of think that I don't know, maybe this is not

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>true that you tell me. It seems like some of

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>these systems are becoming so complex that the farmers are

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>beginning to kind of buck the system. They're saying, I

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily want that five dollar John Deer tractor. I'm

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 1>going to get this nineteen seventy version of the same

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>thing that it really does everything that I need. But

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 1>it's all mechanical, it's not electronics. That's absolutely happening. We're

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>seeing the market for brand new tractors start to suffer

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>while the market for pre computerized tractors is blossoming. So,

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>in other words, this limited supply because you know that

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>time's past though they're not really people making those anymore. Yeah,

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're gonna go totally back to that.

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just mean, maybe they need to back

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 1>it down a little bit, but youre right there there's

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a now a market for the older equipment. Yeah, and

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it may even be that uh, that could end up

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>inspiring a change anyway, where the questions come in, like

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>how how much of this new technology that's being incorporated

0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>into tractors is of of real demonstrable benefit to the

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>farmer or the rancher, Like how can can you show

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that the stuff that's supposed to make the tractor more

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:14.240
<v Speaker 1>efficient is it measurably more efficient because of these features?

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>All right? But you know what, because the features you

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>mentioned features and I gotta say this, but but they're

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>they are just like driving like a luxury yacht or something.

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, maybe a luxury RV in a field.

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>They're incredible. Have you seen the interiors of these things?

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I have not. There there again, like a story and

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a half high, so you've got a great view of

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>your field. You've got leather rep steering wheels. Of course,

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the seats are super cushy, and they're on a suspension

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>system almost like you'd find in a semi truck something

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 1>like that. Very soft. Um, they've got air conditioning, of

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>course they've got CD players, DVD players, of course, media

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>inputs now not you know, the CDs. I know they're

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 1>gone right right. They've given me the scale from you know,

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking more of Bluetooth, sure whatever, Well

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>they have that too. Yeah. But of course all the

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 1>screens for the GPS systems and everything. They've got autonomous features.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>You can go autopilot, you can go semi autonomous, you

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>can go fully autonomous in some cases. Um, oh, this

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>is when one cool feature. I don't know if they

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>can give this up. This would be tough to give up.

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're driving a grain harvester and we can

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>all picture with this looks like I mean, I think

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people call them combines, but grain harvester

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>combines the same idea. They have that huge shoot at

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the back that it just pours out corn or whatever

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it happens to be wheat. Um, there's another vehicle that

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>follows behind. It's usually a truck, but it's got a

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 1>giant bin on it. It looks like a just a

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>big box and it pours everything that it's harvesting into

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that box as it drives along. They drive along in tandem.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>There is a technology that they call follow me technology,

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and what it does is it it completely automates the

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.919
<v Speaker 1>following vehicle, so no one has to drive that second vehicle.

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>There's someone in there manning the harvester, the the you know,

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the the vehicle that's that's gathering the material, but there's

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>nobody in the box and the one that just carries

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the box. So that way, it's always following it precise

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the right distance, at the precisely the right speed. Eat

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>whether the you know, the operator adjust that speed up

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>or down doesn't matter. That is always going to be

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>exactly where it is. It's never It's called following technology.

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. Yeah, it eliminates at least one other

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>person has to do that. They can do something else

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>on the farm and then I don't know if this

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>is possible or not, but it wouldn't be cool if, like,

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>when it's full, it could it could signal that, you know, okay,

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>we stopped right for now, and they do that and

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>then another one takes this place. I don't know if

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>it's possible yet or not, it seems like it would be. Yeah,

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>swap out technology, I would imagine that you could do that.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>You would just have essentially uh you know, designating Clone

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>one and Clone two, and then you just Clone one

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>return home clone to take its place Clone two or

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Clone one, you know, drop off the load and return

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to the flight. That kind of thing. It seems like

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>it would be so cool if you had like the

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>system of like three vehicles that were just continually operating,

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>because then you have minimum downtime. Yeah, very cool. I mean,

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>so there's some really interesting stuff that goes along with it.

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta say that, you know, m of this

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is really kind of rubbing me the wrong way, and

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that you know, I think as it would because I mean,

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I I have I felt the frustration of the you know,

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>opening the hood and not being able to do anything

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>with my own car. I can't imagine what it's like

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a five thousand dollar machine that you

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>have to have running by Wednesday at noon, specifically to

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>plant that field, and it's not operating and there's nothing

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 1>you can do about it except fly a guy in

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>from Utah to to fix it in the field. And

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>even then, you know, you gotta pay for his ticket

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 1>to come there. You gotta for the repair itself, which

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 1>is not going to be cheap. You've got to hope

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that whatever the repair is works and that it's sustained,

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.879
<v Speaker 1>because I've read stories about guys who would fly out

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>mechanics to come and or actually, I guess technicians, it

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>goes beyond mechanic because you're actually having to use the

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the authorized proprietary approach to even access the systems on

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:56.919
<v Speaker 1>board the vehicle. And you end up doing some work

0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and then the person leaves and your vehicle works for

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a little while and then breaks down again, and then

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you think, well, I can't this. This isn't something sustainable.

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't keep doing this. You can keep that cycle going.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>So what are you gonna do? Are you gonna just

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 1>let that thing sit in the barn and collect dust,

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 1>or you're gonna get a tractor from twenty five years

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>ago that works every day and you know how to

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>repair right. It may not have it certainly doesn't have

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>all the bells and whistles, but if it works and

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you can keep it in working condition, that's a very

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>powerful story. Yeah, we talk about in in the text sphere,

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>we talk about this approach, this uh, this trend really

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's across all areas of electronics as the black

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>box trend, and a black box essentially means any system

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>or group of systems that is either sufficiently complex enough

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>or is protected against you accessing it. So meaning that,

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the old days, the really like the

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>birth of the personal computer age, people were hacking, like

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>physically packing machines to make them do all sorts of

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff right um, And as they get more and more sophisticated,

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it's harder to do that either because it's just so

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>complicated that it's rare for any one person to understand

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 1>all the systems that are involved, or companies have gone

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to great links to keep certain components completely shielded from

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you tweaking them. So you own the physical machine itself,

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you want the engine, you on the transmission, You on

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the wheels, the axles, all that, the chassis. However, the company,

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the parent company, owns the software that

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>makes your machine operates. So you're you're really stuck there.

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 1>You're you're essentially driving a black box. Yeah, and it

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>means that you have to if you if you ever

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>have to do any maintenance or repair UH, you pretty

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>much have very few options open to you other than

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>contacting an official UH person from that company to come

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and perform the maintenance and repair. This has actually led

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to UH a lot of people kind of lumping in

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>agricultural technology under the Right to Repair Act, which really

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 1>is not a single act. It's actually lots of different

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>legislation introduced in many different states, and not just singly

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 1>focused on agriculture. In fact, the main focus was automotive.

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>The idea being that a person who purchases a vehicle

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>should have the expectation that they could do repairs themselves

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 1>or take that vehicle to an independent mechanic who also

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>could do those repairs other instead of having to be

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 1>forced to take them to the source the manufacturer. That's

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the that's the point behind it. If you do want

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to do repairs yourself, if you are absolutely determined that

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do those repairs that maintenance yourself, you're

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 1>going to go to whatever links necessary in order to

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:57.719
<v Speaker 1>do that. What you would have to do is get

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>hold of a computer and some software and a connector

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that works with that particular make and model of that vehicle,

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and you'd have to be doing it essentially illegally. Yeah,

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and there's also because this is a piracy issue, right,

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and there's also the the issue of the password. The

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>manufacturer provided password. Now that's something that they hold pretty

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>close to their chest. I mean, that's something that But

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 1>of course, if you've already got the software loaded onto

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>a laptop, you've likely already got the pat you know,

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody with the password as well. We're talking about a

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>gray market here, aren't Yeah, yeah, there's a gray market

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>for machines that have that software loaded onto it already.

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>So that if you if you want to try and

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>do these kind of uh, you know, at least diagnose

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with you know, you might not even know yet,

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it may be something very simple. And

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>lack of knowledge is terrible, right for anybody, because you

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:57.320
<v Speaker 1>are completely dependent upon what someone else says, yeah, and

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't necessarily know. If you're someone like I'm not

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>car guy Scott. If I take my wife's vehicle into

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>a mechanic and he says, oh, problem is your hobbit

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 1>fell off your unicorn, I'd be like, I don't think

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that sounds right, but I don't know, so I guess

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I gotta pay you this. I understand. I feel a

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are in that position. If you just

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have the the the knowledge ahead of time.

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>When you come in what it possibly could be, you

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like you might be taken And and that is

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>another source of frustration, is that you're at the mercy

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>of the manufacturer at that point, because they can tell

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you anything. And you'd say, well, okay, here's the manufacturer

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>telling me that's what it is. It has to be that,

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and and a lot of people are just like, well,

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather I'd rather know that, find that out for myself,

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:43.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, or maybe narrow it down to three possible things.

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And if they tell me one of those three things,

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll believe it. If they say something, you know, from

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>out and left field, then I'm gonna question that. I

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>asked them why I'm gonna follow up with him. But

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just easier to accept if you do that research

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 1>ahead of time. And the problem is that if you

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>want to access the tractor's computer, you are essentially breaking

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the law, because the Digital Millennial Copyright Act specifically makes

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it illegal to try to get around or break protection

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>around any sort of DRM. Now, typically we think of

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>dr M as something that happens to be attached to

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 1>a music file or a computer file, not attractor, but

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the principle is the same. And while I'm not necessarily

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we're going to live in a

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:38.880
<v Speaker 1>world where John Deere is going to sue a farmer

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>because the farmer chose to get around. The point is

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>under the law, they would be completely within their right

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to do that because the d m c A allows

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 1>for it. And that's why the Right to Repair Act

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>this this group, these various elements of legislation that are

0:52:56.160 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in different stages. Only Massachusetts, I think, actually passed a

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Right to Repair Act into law. But what that says

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>is that it should they should get an exception essentially

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to d m c A that that in order to

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:16.240
<v Speaker 1>do repairs on something, uh, it should not be considered

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>illegal to bypass this protection because it means that you

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 1>have created kind of almost like a monopoly. Like you

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you have created only one means of addressing the problem.

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 1>And it also means that people who are like you know,

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>independent mechanics who do not work for any specific manufacturer

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 1>or dealership or whatever, they're seeing their business decline because

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>if more and more of the vehicles have to be

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 1>taken to those dealerships or individual or manufacturers, then the mechanics, don't.

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>They don't. They aren't getting as much work less and

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 1>less need for the older equipment to be repaired, right

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>unless they start to turn towards using that. Can I

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>can I just say that we're we're not picking on

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>John Dear. It's just an easy example for us to

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>make that everybody is familiar with. But all of the

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:11.399
<v Speaker 1>modern tractor manufacturers are doing similar things. Yes, So it's

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>not like, you know, John DearS, you know some evil

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>corporation doing this on their own, and that's the only

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 1>one that's like that, And to get their equipment, you

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 1>have to submit to this. It's it's everybody, and and

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>these companies have, you know, very understandable reasons for pursuing

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff too. It's not like their motives are.

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>They're not all slightly whiplash. They're not twirling their mustaches

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 1>as the trains coming down. Tis. But don't you agree though,

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that if they wanted to make it easier on the

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>on the ordinary farmer that they were on the on

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the average farmer, that they would maybe not make it

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>password encrypted. You I think, I think what my own

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:50.840
<v Speaker 1>personal opinion is that they could throw in a simple

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 1>device that hooks up to the tractor and gives a

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.959
<v Speaker 1>readout of exactly what's wrong. Maybe just a diagnostic tool,

0:54:57.000 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>but maybe it's something that's uh boy, that know, what

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 1>level do you allow it to go to? Though? Because

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you start allowing everybody to recalibrate your machines, there's gonna

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 1>be problems and they're going to blame the manufacturers. So

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 1>how would you how would you ever determine what level

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you would allow them to fix or repair their own machine.

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>This is a factory repair. This is something that we

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>have to do right, and and when you are getting

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 1>into this level of sophistication and complexity, it is not

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 1>an easy questioned answer, right because, uh, some people, you know,

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you might say, all right, well, here are all the

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 1>basic mechanical systems that we think people should reasonably be

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 1>expected to be able to address. Here are some of

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the ones that we think are beyond the pale when

0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the average person's ability to access it

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and change it. The problem is then make sure that

0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the ones that you can't touch, essentially aren't also going

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:57.879
<v Speaker 1>to completely shut down the vehicle should they go bad.

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's incredibly difficult there's there's so many

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>possibilities here that I don't know what the answer is.

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I really don't but it. But it does seem to

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>me that if they would at least allow them access

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to to look into the T C T E C

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>U and figure out what's going on, at least at

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>least to understand, all right, the problem is with this

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>hydralic sensor over here on this on my number eight

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:25.040
<v Speaker 1>wheel or however they designate that. UM, then they would

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>at least know, Okay, that's where I'm gonna look and

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that's where the problem is gonna be. They had no UM,

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it just gives you a better a better sense of

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Well no, no, I I agree. I

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 1>think I think being ignorant of the situation just adds

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 1>to stress. Instead of just calling the manufacturer and saying, well,

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 1>my tractor doesn't work, I mean, then you would at

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>least say, like, well, I'm having a problem with my

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 1>my number eight wheel. The hydralic sensor is doing this.

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 1>But you can't even do that now, and that's the problem.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:54.839
<v Speaker 1>So super frustrating on both sides. Now, one thing that's

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>not frustrating, the thing that we wanted to kind of

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:59.839
<v Speaker 1>conclude with is that some farmers have found really cre

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it of means to boosting their efficiency by taking matters

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:09.840
<v Speaker 1>into their own hands, by actually hacking either systems or

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 1>are tools in order to get more efficient. Scott, you

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 1>looked into this source of yes, I did. There's a

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>site called farm hacks. Now. Farmhas kind of came about

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>when I was reading about the gray market and um,

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know some of the software proprietary stuff you're talking about,

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like maybe a friend of a friend as a laptop

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that you could use the software in the passwords. Well,

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.280
<v Speaker 1>they said, well, there there are sites out there that

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 1>can help you with some problems, not all problems like that,

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>but look into farm hacks and there's a site called

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>farm hacked dot org. And I can just give you

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a few examples, just quick examples, but there's probably I

0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe two hundred examples on this site so

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 1>far of just really simple things. And it's exactly what

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like. It's it's they're not all high tech either. Um,

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 1>some of them are are you know, large grand scale projects,

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and others are very very small, like made in a

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:00.560
<v Speaker 1>five gallon bucket type small. So it really really small like,

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 1>let's say they got a problem of I don't know,

0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the the the metal pan that you put the chickens

0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>water in on your small farm, it keeps freezing in

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the wintertime. But the solutions that are out there, you know,

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in a I guess in the consumer realm, are you

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>know a two heater for this thing? And you don't

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>want to pay two bucks for that? You just got

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a small farm. You've got ten chickens to take care over,

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty chickens? What do you do you want to you

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:27.280
<v Speaker 1>want the five dollar solutions, So you know, you go

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to this farm haack site and they've got a solution

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 1>there for you. And it's things like that. So um.

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>One thing that we mentioned earlier was the the automatic

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>weating machine, the robotic wheating machine. Well, here's an idea

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that this one at farm farm Hacks had and they're

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>called farm bikes, and there's a bunch of different types

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 1>of farm bikes, but one of them that really caught

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>my eye was the type that writers live face down

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>just above the ground, so you're you're kind of on

0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.479
<v Speaker 1>a almost like in a sling, just above the ground,

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of maybe a little less than arms length and

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>big wheels that go on the rose you know where

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>there aren't plants, and you peddle this with your feet

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>behind you, so it's like a reverse recumbent bike almost.

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>You're you're laying head first, so you're like you're like

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:14.160
<v Speaker 1>flying over the weeds like Superman. Yes, picking weeds. Yes,

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 1>And there's buckets hanging next to you and you can

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 1>pick them. And it's very very simple, and you can

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>have two people, three people, however big you want to

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>make this device, you know, this this thing and again

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it's foot powered, you know, it's pedal powered. It's just

0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 1>like a bicycle. It's just a rework bike really. So

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a very low tech version of the automated weeding

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>machine that you talked about. It's only it's not automated.

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 1>It's human powered and and humans are are suspended they're

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>doing that. But it's it's a weird thing to look at,

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's it is so smart. When you look at it,

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you realize, like that that's the way to pick wheeds.

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to try that, just to try

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it now. It's sounds funny. I'd almost like to ride

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it fast on the street. Only thing is that you

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<v Speaker 1>would you would imagine that their ability to maneuver is

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<v Speaker 1>probably somewhat limited, seeing is how it was designed to

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<v Speaker 1>go straight. It's mostly straight. The turning is a little subject,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So there's a few and well just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of let's quickly go through these. We're near in the

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<v Speaker 1>end here. But um, of course there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>three D printed parts on the site. And that's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I know you've talked about them many times.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about them on car stuff. Um, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about things like seed rollers or spray nozzles. Any any

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<v Speaker 1>non electric tractor part maybe far you know, any any

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<v Speaker 1>implement part that you can think of, you could you

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<v Speaker 1>could do a three D printed part for that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how about this homemade livestock scales for about a third

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<v Speaker 1>of the price. It's something you don't really think about.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to weigh those cattle before they go on

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<v Speaker 1>the truck to the to the market. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Well, you have to buy a scale, and

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<v Speaker 1>the scale can be you know, thousands of dollars, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars for one. If you could do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, if you can create your own for about

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<v Speaker 1>a third of the price of course you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, so why not and it's just as effective. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how about let's see quick attachments. Uh, you know ideas

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<v Speaker 1>for quick attachment. UM, for things that require like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a three point hitch, very difficult to lie up and

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<v Speaker 1>get it get correct, but just simple ways around that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, things that that speed up your time, that

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<v Speaker 1>that maximize efficiency. It's like a plug in play approach. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very similar. You're exactly right. Um, Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about mobile temperature alarms and things like that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of program or apps out there I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that are not advertising the site, but people are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I use this one. It really works, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>go there and kind of Again, this is back to

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<v Speaker 1>the the shared ideas, the community aspect of the collective expertise. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that way, you know, if your greenhouse gets

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<v Speaker 1>above or below temperature, you're alerted no matter where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in town buying feed for the livestock or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the greenhouse is getting a little too hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get back there and set that, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can manage or you know, maybe it could be an

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<v Speaker 1>automated system. Yeah, So what about if UM Again I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the five gallon bucket thing, but UM humidifiers for

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<v Speaker 1>small buildings in barns or whatever, you know, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a simple thing to do. There's UH bucket based humidifiers

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<v Speaker 1>that you can make that are continually refilled themselves. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a self sustaining system. That's really cool. It's very smart,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's there on that site. UM also compost sensors

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<v Speaker 1>again for recording temperatures inside the compost piles. And you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think that's important, but some of those compost piles

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<v Speaker 1>can self combust. They can spontaneously combust because they get

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<v Speaker 1>too incredible temperatures. I've seen piles of mulch and dirt

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<v Speaker 1>and things that that are steaming in the winter because

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<v Speaker 1>they get so high. You have to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>turn them. They keep them cooler, they'll they'll just burn up.

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<v Speaker 1>Compost is the exact same way. What about biodesel biodiesel

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<v Speaker 1>processing trailers. Oh, we talked about biodiesel quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>times on text, so also on forward thinking biodiesel is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool stuff. You you can essentially use that in

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<v Speaker 1>place of diesel. Some diesel engines take it like you

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<v Speaker 1>could have pure biodiesel. Some diesel engines will process it

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<v Speaker 1>just fine. There are other ones where you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>have more of a mix between diesel and biodiesel. But

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<v Speaker 1>so this is this is something that you could use

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<v Speaker 1>like like a self can paying trailers. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a biodiesel processing um I'll call it a plant, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's smaller than that. It's a it's about diesel processing

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<v Speaker 1>um UH system, and it's it's a way to house

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<v Speaker 1>that in a trailer safely and to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>use your product, your your waste products, whatever that happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be. So whatever you farm, you're able to use

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<v Speaker 1>the corn husks or whatever to create or algae or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you have access to to be able to create

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<v Speaker 1>your own fuel for your own farm. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very smart thing to do. Yeah, I mean, otherwise you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the stuff that would just be waste that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to find one or two other

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<v Speaker 1>uses for it. But reuse of the stuff, making use

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<v Speaker 1>of as much of the crop as possible is another

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<v Speaker 1>means of reducing environmental impact and increasing efficiency cutting your

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<v Speaker 1>fuel costs at the same time, very very important for farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>So things like pedal powered root washers for like things

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<v Speaker 1>like carrots and and potatoes, you know, just small stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like this that you wouldn't think of, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody who is just going to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe harvest a small area that's you know, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hundred feet and they want to take it into

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<v Speaker 1>a local farmers market or something. They gotta find some

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<v Speaker 1>way to watch that before they bring it into town,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can be a very time consuming process. So

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<v Speaker 1>these pedal powered route washers that are very effective, very efficient,

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<v Speaker 1>um smart design. You just use an old bicycle in

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<v Speaker 1>a tub of some kind. Yeah, I've actually I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>seen an entire uh nonprofit startup that does this very thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They take bicycles and they repurpose the bicycles into pedal

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<v Speaker 1>powered machinery much many of many of them are dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>toward farming, and they end up bringing them to places

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<v Speaker 1>where electricity isn't even always a part of life. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing this in developing nations where it's really improving

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<v Speaker 1>people's ability to do more work with less effort even

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<v Speaker 1>in the absence of electricity. So agriculture, they could use

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<v Speaker 1>it to power radio. They use it to just just

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<v Speaker 1>about anything, right, I mean, power something that cooks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just amazing. I saw one that was

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<v Speaker 1>a pedal powered blender. I think you'd go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>make your mixed drinks right there. That's pretty good. I

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<v Speaker 1>could use that this weekend. Yeah. Oh man, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>just talk for a second about how hot it is

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. Yes, no kidding. The farmers have got to

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<v Speaker 1>be really feeling the heat right now. Yeah. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that affects them because it's not every day that

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, the temperatures are in the one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>degree range and humid like this, It's got its own

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<v Speaker 1>heat and is around some days. It's got its own

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<v Speaker 1>set of circumstances to go along with it. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have any idea what that does

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<v Speaker 1>to farmers, but I'm sure that it just drives them

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because you never know when it's coming. It's coming

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what week that's going to hit. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So this has been a really fun topic to talk about. This.

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<v Speaker 1>This is again one of those things where I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>really lent it much thought I really should. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a cousin who is very much in this world. He

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<v Speaker 1>and IT does incredible work. He flies all over the

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<v Speaker 1>world working with farmers to help increase crop yields. I

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<v Speaker 1>should talk with him and see what other interesting technologies

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<v Speaker 1>are on the horizon because he's awesome. What am I

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<v Speaker 1>doing on the other side, Well, he's in Tokyo. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to touch base with it. I know a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but he knows a lot. Yeah, yeah, yea, he knows

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<v Speaker 1>better than to come onto a podcast with me because

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<v Speaker 1>because we're related. So at any rate, this thanks Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming onto the show to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me about this, and thank for having me again.

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<v Speaker 1>I I appreciate it. It's always fun to do a

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<v Speaker 1>guest But yeah, and it was just great to to

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<v Speaker 1>really look into, you know, the ways that this world

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<v Speaker 1>overlaps with the automotive world as well as the frustrations

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<v Speaker 1>as well as not just the frustrations, but the incredible

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<v Speaker 1>potential this technology has to to help farmers in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So really exciting stuff. I mean, uh, time we can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about drones, uh in a way that is positive,

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<v Speaker 1>I am happy to do it. So guys, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have any suggestions out there for a future episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Car Stuff along with Ben Boland, who is also a

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<v Speaker 1>frequent guest host here on tech Stuff. You guys cover

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<v Speaker 1>all things cars and vehicle related. Really any interesting shows

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in the near future, oh Man, anything and

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<v Speaker 1>everything we do. We cover anything and so we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Elvis is Hurts recently. Wow, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a local auto manufacturer that more people don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know about, the Hanaf Okay, just a lot of different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do a lot of history on our show too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. You can really learn a lot about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the brands that have become either either have come

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<v Speaker 1>Great show and uh I will talk to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>again really soon for more on this embassens another pathics

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<v Speaker 1>because it has to have work dot Com