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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler. Welcome to Philly Show. Hi everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury,

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Speaker 1: I'm Todds Will like It's Monday morning, March third, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Hope everybody is doing well. Are you guys

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Speaker 1: doing well? Jim Rubin doing great?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Do you guys look great? You guys look great. We're

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Speaker 1: feeling good down here. Philly's off today. We thought we'd

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Speaker 1: get together and you know, do another episode of Phillies.

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Speaker 1: Played three games over the weekend. One in Lakeland. The

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Speaker 1: drive to Lakeland, guys, the drive back, full sucking drive. Man,

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Speaker 1: You guys remember those that drive. It was a bad,

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Speaker 1: bad drive. Aaron Nola pitched on Saturday in Lakeland, and

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Speaker 1: then Christopher Sanchez and Taiwan Walker pitching a split squad

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Speaker 1: yesterday Sunday, Christopher Sanchez against the Orioles at bake Care Ballpark,

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Speaker 1: and then tie one Walker pitched in TD Ballpark and

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Speaker 1: beautiful Dunedin. We'll talk about all those guys in a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but I just wanted to share. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you guys caught this yesterday. Spring training is

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Speaker 1: a time for fun, and there was some spring training

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Speaker 1: hijinks yesterday Indo Needin, do you guys hear about this?

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Speaker 1: So the ABS challenge system for those people don't know

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Speaker 1: where is being implemented this spring, kind of a trial

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Speaker 1: run by Major League Baseball. And Max Sure's or the

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Speaker 1: future Hall of Famers said last week, can't we just

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Speaker 1: be judged by humans, very very dramatically, And so yesterday

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Speaker 1: during pregame stretch, Trey Turner's stretching next to his buddy

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Speaker 1: Bryce and Stott and Stock goes, I bet I bet

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Speaker 1: you won't challenge the first pitch. You would never do it.

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner says, oh, yes, I would, and then Max

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Speaker 1: Sures that throws a first pitch strike right over the plate.

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner challenges. Now they're former teammates, they you know,

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Speaker 1: they go back aways. Max Schureser had a look on

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Speaker 1: his face like, what the hell is going on here?

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Speaker 1: Realize what's happened. Got a good laugh out of it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody got a good laugh out of it. And then

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Speaker 1: of course then also Max sures Are also played Bryson

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Speaker 1: Stott's walk up music requested. Bryson Stott's A Okay walk

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Speaker 1: up music to be played before each of his at

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Speaker 1: bats when he faced sures Er. That's because Bryson Stott

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Speaker 1: in his career is eight for thirteen with one double

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Speaker 1: against Max Schurzers, so he's trying to try to needle

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Speaker 1: him a little bit. So there was a couple of

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Speaker 1: things going on pregame, But but that was a lot

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Speaker 1: of That was a lot of fun. That's that's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the fun part of spring training, right guys,

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Speaker 1: is some of the wackiness that you see on the

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Speaker 1: field and some of the good times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it is you can do some fun

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Speaker 3: stuff in spring training. But it kind of made me.

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Speaker 3: You know, Schureser, he's temperamental. I mean, he's a competitor,

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Speaker 3: he's he's on the edge.

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Speaker 2: And it made me.

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Speaker 3: Recall when Joe Girardi that first night when they brought

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Speaker 3: in the sticky stuff challenge. Joe Girardi goes after Sure's

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Speaker 3: are in Citizens Bank Park and sures It was all

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Speaker 3: kinds of upset. But obviously this was not a you know,

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Speaker 3: regular season games, so his competitive juices were not stoked.

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Speaker 3: Former teammates and if anybody can get away with it,

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Speaker 3: it's like Trey Turner it's like, you know, Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 3: those are the guys they with teammates, they know him,

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Speaker 3: and you know, they have a certain status and a

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Speaker 3: certain paycheck and get away with stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was kind of fun.

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Speaker 3: It was also a bit shocking because the pitch like

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Speaker 3: almost dissected to play.

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Speaker 4: See whatever happened to the fun in the game. It's

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Speaker 4: supposed to have fun playing baseball. I mean there's so

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Speaker 4: many used to be so many quirky guys. Now people

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Speaker 4: focused on bat flips and you know guys you know,

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Speaker 4: celebrating after certain things, just having some fun.

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Speaker 2: Without having to show other people up.

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Speaker 4: This is just fun and I think it's kind of

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Speaker 4: a cool I mean, obviously, these two guys are they're

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Speaker 4: making the team.

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Speaker 2: They don't have to worry about that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: They're just getting ready for the season. So it's a

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Speaker 4: That's than it would be for you know, a kid

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Speaker 4: like Adrian Miller who's trying to make a team or

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Speaker 4: a little different. And you know, even different for guys

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Speaker 4: guy like Rojas. I mean, you're you're still you know,

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Speaker 2: The major leagues. But it's cool to have some fun

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Speaker 3: Man, it's baseball, Todd, How did skipper Thompson because he's

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Speaker 3: he wants to take these a little bit seriously, where

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Speaker 3: Terry Francona out of Cincinnati says, don't bother with it.

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Speaker 3: You know, Rob is like, and we have to remind

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Speaker 3: our viewers that this we don't know if this is

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Speaker 3: going to be used next year at twenty six. This

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Speaker 3: is a trial run in spring training. But Rob, you know,

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Speaker 3: wants his guys to take these serious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was probably the one guy I was

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Speaker 1: not super pumped about this because Rob Thompson said in

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Speaker 1: early in camp, Yeah, he asked these guys early in camp,

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Speaker 1: or told his players early in camp I should say

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Speaker 1: sorry that I want you guys fighting for jobs to

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Speaker 1: you know, feel comfortable challenging a ball on a strike,

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Speaker 1: because that could make the difference between a hit, a

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Speaker 1: home run, a strikeout, a walk, big inning, a clean inning,

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Speaker 1: and that could make the difference between you making the

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Speaker 1: team or not, or finishing the spring with good numbers.

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Speaker 1: Making making a good impression. So I asked Rob postgame,

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Speaker 1: I said, so, I assume you weren't in on this

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Speaker 1: first pitch challenge and he goes, I was not. And

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Speaker 1: then Mac goes, did you not find it funny? He goes,

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Speaker 1: and then he kind of repeated what he said. He's like, listen,

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Speaker 1: that was one last challenge. I you know, that could

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Speaker 1: was the one guy who was not He did not

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Speaker 1: find a humor in it as much, and he kind

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Speaker 1: of shut it down when we were talking to about

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Speaker 1: But still a fun moment in my opinion, you know,

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Speaker 1: all things considered.

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Speaker 3: So Ruben you're talking, I'm sorry, but fun moments between

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Speaker 3: the picture and the batter.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever see the YouTube video from.

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Speaker 3: The seventies and I think Nolan Ryan's working on a

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Speaker 3: no hitter against the Tigers and Norm Cash goes up

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Speaker 3: to the plate with he had broken a leg off

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Speaker 3: had he knew he had no chance of hitting Nolan

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Speaker 3: Ryan on this day. You can find it on YouTube,

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Speaker 3: just like get you know, beamed for that, but.

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Speaker 4: He took a little bit from Nolan Ryan because he's

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was a tyrant on the mound, a tyrant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, that's great. I never heard that story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get go on YouTube and try to find that.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty funny, and the the umpire loses it. I

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Speaker 4: I can't believe fun guys with watching flip his bat,

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Speaker 2: Was I think it was an All Star game.

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Speaker 3: Yeahs threw literally over his head, but that was that

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Speaker 3: was not a That was an exhibition game as well.

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Speaker 3: This thing with Norm Cash was a was doing a

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Speaker 2: I got Winknis junior man. He is going nuts.

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Speaker 4: He's going crazy. He's got ridiculous power. Got to the

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Speaker 2: I know that. You know he didn't have a sort.

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Speaker 4: I would assume he'll start at lee high value this year.

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Speaker 4: He's really impressed, I think, and looks like there's some

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Speaker 2: The way he swung the back Les Franconas.

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Speaker 4: to matriculate through that organization and power man, power.

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Speaker 3: Arms, power bats. Power is a premium tool in this game.

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Speaker 3: It jumps out, grabs people's attention, and that's what this

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Speaker 3: A couple needs to stay healthy, needs to have a

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Speaker 3: full season. You know, give him one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: Everybody loves what they see, but I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: He looks like a defensive end. And you know what

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Speaker 3: But I love what I'm seeing confidence wise and presence

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Speaker 2: And you know, I.

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Speaker 3: he's in great shape. He's not resting on that big

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Speaker 3: He's coming in here ready to go. Maybe that's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly makes sense. You know, Tomorrow is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense because Sanchez at home,

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Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you have to be careful when you

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Speaker 4: But I think the Phillies did a really nice job

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Speaker 4: They knew that he wasn't going to be a guy

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Speaker 2: Same thing with.

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Speaker 4: And that's a great decision by the Phillies front office.

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Speaker 1: I think Sanchez yesterday sinker touched ninety eight point three

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Speaker 2: As we talked about.

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Speaker 4: But anytime you step on the mount for the first

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Speaker 3: It's got to kind of electrify a player mentally and competitively.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that was one of the things that we

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Speaker 4: of players who do that. Broyles won't happened to be

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Speaker 4: one of them. Cliff Lee ended up being one of

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Speaker 4: those guys when you know, when it was tight, he was,

435
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Speaker 4: you know, sort of pretty even keeled. But some guys

436
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Speaker 4: just love that situation, and uh, it can go the

437
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Speaker 4: other way, you can it can be dangerous. Like some

438
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Speaker 4: guys who have not been in that situation and have

439
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Speaker 4: not played in like competitive situations where their the expectations

440
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Speaker 4: are high, some of those guys really struggled. I think

441
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Speaker 4: about Kenny Rogers when he went to New York when

442
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Speaker 4: there's a huge expectation on him, and in Texas they

443
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Speaker 4: didn't really they didn't really compete in the West over

444
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Speaker 4: there and never really had a lot of success. But

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Speaker 4: then he comes over and did really well there, comes

446
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Speaker 4: over to New York and pitches for the Yankees and

447
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Speaker 4: really did not pitch all that well. So it really

448
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Speaker 4: kind of depends on the makeup and and I think

449
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Speaker 4: the Phillies hit on both Lizardo and Sanchez in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun. So Mango Mango, best best week.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with that next Like I said,

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Speaker 1: the first episode, every week throughout the season, so we're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Guys, Let's do some audience questions,

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Speaker 1: Philly Show fan questions. You guys are ready to rock

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Speaker 1: and roll. Got a lot of got a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions yesterday about Taiwan Walker before he pitched yesterday and

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Speaker 1: then after he pitched yesterday. So let's start with some

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Speaker 1: of those. What is the most likely outcome with Taiwan Walker?

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Speaker 1: That's from Phillies Fans seventy five? Is Walker opened a

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Speaker 1: pitching out of the pen. That's JR zero zero C

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. What do you guys really think about Walker?

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Speaker 1: Is he really looking better this spring? Will you be

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Speaker 1: a reliever in the bullpen? Those are just some of

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Speaker 1: the questions about Taiwan Walker. So let's just give a

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Speaker 1: quick rundown yesterday Taiwan Walker. He pitched two winnings, gave

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Speaker 1: up a home run. But I mean it was an

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Speaker 1: objectively good pitch. It was a slider down out of

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Speaker 1: the zone. Dalton Varsher got the bad head down, golfed

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Speaker 1: out of the ballparked the right field. You guys know

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Speaker 1: that ballpark intodneed and they man the ball flies out

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Speaker 1: of there. His first pitch yesterday ninety three point seven

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Speaker 1: miles an hour. He touched ninety three point nine miles

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Speaker 1: an hour in the first inning. He hit ninety three

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Speaker 1: to nine just once all of last season. His fastball

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Speaker 1: average ninety two point nine miles an hour yesterday. In

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Speaker 1: his first first spring start last year it was eighty

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Speaker 1: nine point four. So again, you know, you don't want

478
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Speaker 1: to rush to judgment or anything like that, but clearly

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Speaker 1: he looked way better than he did at any point

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Speaker 1: last season, and certainly than he did at any point

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Speaker 1: the last spring. His splitter was good. He you know,

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Speaker 1: he got three ground ball outs on it. He got

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Speaker 1: a swing and miss on it. That was a big

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Speaker 1: problem for him last year. So what do we think

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Speaker 1: fellas about again one start, just one start, But Taiwan Walker, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's I think it's a great sign.

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Speaker 4: And I mean anytime you can have that, I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is what we were talking about with starting pitching depth.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you never know what's going to happen during

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Speaker 4: the course of this spring. Who knows who comes up

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Speaker 4: with a baky shoulder, balky elbow. Every single year there's

492
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Speaker 4: something going on with somebody, whether it's Wheeler, Nola typically not,

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Speaker 4: but you never know who might you know, who might

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Speaker 4: be banged up a little bit. Ranger Suarez only come

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Speaker 4: out of you know, one spring training, I think in

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Speaker 4: his last five years where he's been healthy. So it's

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Speaker 4: you know, to me, it's all about the depth and

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Speaker 4: if you can have as many starters as possible ready

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Speaker 4: to go, I think that's a great thing. I think ultimately,

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Speaker 4: if everybody is healthy, I think he's going to go

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Speaker 4: into the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: And be a long guy.

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Speaker 4: He maybe put himself in a position with other teams

504
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Speaker 4: out there looking for starting pitching.

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Speaker 2: Where he might be able to be a trade piece.

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Speaker 4: I know, if I'm sitting there and I'm Dave de Browskin,

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Speaker 4: I'm going please show me something so that other gms,

508
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Speaker 4: other teams hopefully he gets through this this spring healthy,

509
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Speaker 4: that maybe we can move him in a.

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Speaker 2: Certain situation where we don't have to take back too

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Speaker 2: much money, whatever the case may be. Anytime you can have.

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Speaker 4: A guy like this pitching well, especially deep in the spring. Now,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say anything until his last two starts. Really,

514
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Speaker 4: those those those that's when I'm really evaluating him, and

515
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Speaker 4: I'm sure other teams are too. They're watching everything. I

516
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Speaker 4: think that this is really important for the Phillies. It's

517
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Speaker 4: a great thing. There's never ever enough pitching and ever

518
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Speaker 4: too much pitching, and so that's part of it. The

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Speaker 4: other part of it is I got to give the

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Speaker 4: guy some love. Man, he worked very hard. He just

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Speaker 4: sat and done nothing and not try to improve, and

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Speaker 4: you know, not worked on some of the things that

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Speaker 4: he did in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Well he did.

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Speaker 4: So he did that, and he got himself into a

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Speaker 4: position where he's throwing the ball with a little bit

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Speaker 4: more zip. He has to separate that fastball from his

528
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Speaker 4: split because that makes them more effective. All those things

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Speaker 4: I think are a great thing. And you got to

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Speaker 4: give Taiwan Walker some credit for put himself in a position.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at this age and at this stage, he

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Speaker 4: didn't have to do this. He's guaranteed his money. The

533
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Speaker 4: next thirty five six million dollars are his in his pocket.

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Speaker 4: And for him to be able to and to want

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Speaker 4: to do that and desire to do that, you got

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Speaker 4: to give him a little bit of love for that too.

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Speaker 3: I definitely have a lot of respect for the work

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Speaker 3: he put in this offseason, and it's got to be

539
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Speaker 3: a great feeling for him to see some early results

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Speaker 3: tick up on the fastball, you know, Splitter just pitching better.

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Speaker 3: That said, I don't think you can read a ton

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Speaker 3: into it. I think you can look at some of

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Speaker 3: the metrics and be encouraged by them, but I don't

544
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Speaker 3: think you can read a ton into spring training performance,

545
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Speaker 3: and especially early spring training performance. But what it does

546
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Speaker 3: for him, it could end up buying him that last

547
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Speaker 3: spot in the bullpen. As they continue to, you know,

548
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Speaker 3: contemplate what direction they're going to go, maybe he becomes

549
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Speaker 3: valuable as a long man. I'm sure the depth could

550
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Speaker 3: end up being valuable in the rotation, and maybe just

551
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Speaker 3: maybe they entice a buyer on the trade market. But

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Speaker 3: what do you think they'd have to eat to move.

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Speaker 1: That Let's s Yeah, I was gonna ask you, Ruben. Hypothetical.

554
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Speaker 1: Say you're a GM on another team right now and

555
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Speaker 1: you really need some starting pitching. A couple guys are down,

556
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Speaker 1: or some guys aren't performing. Say Taiwan Walker does what

557
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Speaker 1: he does all spring and he pitches really well. Right

558
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Speaker 1: if you're the opposing GM and the Phillies call you

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Speaker 1: up or you call them and they go, listen, we

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Speaker 1: want you to take on some of the salary. Is

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Speaker 1: that a hard no for you?

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Speaker 2: Do you? Like?

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Speaker 1: What's your art? Do you say? Listen, I'm not eating

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Speaker 1: any money. The guy had a seven ERA last season.

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Speaker 1: This is just spring Like, how do you how do

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Speaker 1: you try to work that negotiation so you're not taking

567
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Speaker 1: on much salary? What's your argument? I guess, or what's

568
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Speaker 1: your pitch to Dave Dombrowski to try to make this trade?

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Speaker 2: I evaluate, I sort of have to project, right, what's

570
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Speaker 2: going to be the next two years?

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Speaker 4: What kind of picture is you going to be? Is

572
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Speaker 4: it going to be a three, a four or a five?

573
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Speaker 4: He's not going to be a one or two? And

574
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Speaker 4: what is that value on the market in the marketplace?

575
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Speaker 4: And how can I make this trade? So to me,

576
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Speaker 4: a picture of this caliber is probably somewhere between the

577
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Speaker 4: eight million dollars and twelve million dollar range. So as

578
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking through this thing, you know, I'm problem The

579
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Speaker 4: Phillies are gonna have to probably take close to half

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Speaker 4: of it back, and that's reasonable. It seems reasonable, and

581
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Speaker 4: it also helps with their payroll situation.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it allows them to do something at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 4: The Phillies to do something a little bit more aggressed

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Speaker 4: the trade deadline, whatever the case may be. That said,

585
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Speaker 4: I'm not sitting in Dave Dombrowski's shoes. I'm not sitting

586
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Speaker 4: in Preston Manningley's shoes. But if I'm evaluating from afar,

587
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Speaker 4: he's probably in that eight to ten million dollar range

588
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Speaker 4: as a pitcher, And especially based on what I see

589
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Speaker 4: towards the end of the spring, you may have you

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Speaker 4: may have a buyer out there, because hey, look at

591
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Speaker 4: some of the contracts, some of the pitchers who didn't

592
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Speaker 4: even pitch.

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Speaker 2: Who's a left hander from from from Cleveland? Who who's

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Speaker 2: now you know?

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Speaker 4: I mean there's guys who are getting Boid Boyd got

596
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Speaker 4: that contract.

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Speaker 2: He only pitched like forty seven innings or something the

598
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Speaker 2: year before.

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Speaker 4: I ended up getting like a three year deal at

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Speaker 4: what was it maybe twenty five or thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a ton of money. And so there's

602
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Speaker 4: a need for starting pitching. And if he can be that,

603
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Speaker 4: somebody thinks that he can be that durable guy that

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Speaker 4: they signed.

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Speaker 2: Originally for what seventeen million dollars.

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Speaker 4: I got to believe that there there's gonna be some

607
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Speaker 4: teams out there there's gonna need some starting pitching, especially

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Speaker 4: towards the end of spring.

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Speaker 1: At least it's a fun little wrinkle for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the spring based off what he what he did yesterday,

611
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Speaker 1: So he got several questions about the bullpen. Thoughts on

612
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Speaker 1: the bullpen better or worse than last year? That's from

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Speaker 1: Staffy Tyson. I don't know which was that Instagram or X.

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Speaker 1: Did the Phillies ever show interest in top relievers like

615
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Speaker 1: Kirby Yates, Tanner, Scott, et cetera. Chase bingham In on

616
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Speaker 1: YouTube said, well, do you guys predict will be the

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Speaker 1: opening day closer? Even with top and Topper's love for

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Speaker 1: a closer by committee, seems like Alvarado should have it

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Speaker 1: locked up. Do you guys have any thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: bullpen what you've seen so far from any of these guys, Again,

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Speaker 1: knowing that we're a little bit more than just a

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Speaker 1: week through of great par league games, Well.

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Speaker 3: I'm loving what I'm seeing of Alvarado, And you know,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Romondo yesterday pitched with like a not even a

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Speaker 3: B team behind him, a C team and they kicked

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Speaker 3: the ball around on them. So you can't really judge

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Speaker 3: on that, you know, I don't know what they're going

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Speaker 3: to do. Rob doesn't annoint the guy, but when you

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Speaker 3: look at the way he handles things, he obviously kind

630
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Speaker 3: of in action annoints to guy and rides the Hothand

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Speaker 3: I think I would give Romano a shot out of

632
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Speaker 3: the gate. He's done it. It's kind of in the

633
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: back of the mind, back of your mind why you

634
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Speaker 3: brought him here, even though you didn't want to say explicitly.

635
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Speaker 3: And I kind of liked the idea of Alvarado coming

636
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Speaker 3: along in the seventh and eighth and and and you know,

637
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Speaker 3: and moving on that way and maybe building off that.

638
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Speaker 3: But can the bullpen be better? You know, I think

639
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Speaker 3: they got four pretty good ones back there, and Kirkering, Romano,

640
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Speaker 3: Alvarado and Strom and you know you got Ruiz. Time

641
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Speaker 3: will tell. They all have ability, they all have talent.

642
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: It's Romano was an upside play coming off an injury.

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Speaker 3: There's real talent there. And there's a ton ton of

644
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Speaker 3: upside in Orion Kirkering if he makes that next step,

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Speaker 3: if Alvarado in better shape, can get some confidence and

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Speaker 3: firing like he is, and Strom's got a good track record.

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Speaker 2: You looking at a pretty good.

648
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: Bullpen, but you know, they got to perform. It's like

649
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: it's like the team in October. Talent's there, you gotta perform.

650
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the bullpens always seems to

651
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: be the most volatile piece of every team. I think

652
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: in this situation, on paper, it seems like the uh

653
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: you know, looks like a little bit of the weakness

654
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: of this ball club.

655
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: That said, it really depends on their overall performance.

656
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Listen, Hoffman had a ridiculous leap year last year,

657
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: I mean, an insane season, and so it's hard to

658
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 4: think that somebody's going to have a better season than

659
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: what Hofman brought to the table. And he came out

660
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: of nowhere basically. But that can happen for the Phillies too.

661
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 4: I mean, a guy like Kirk Ceram can advance. A

662
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: guy like Romano, can you know, pitch under a situation

663
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: where you know we're in the tight. He's been there,

664
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: he's done it, He's had some success. He was very,

665
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: very consistent in twenty two and twenty three, almost the

666
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: same exact numbers.

667
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Sort of know what you're gonna get out of him.

668
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: I got to believe that Rob Thompson's gonna start with

669
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: him as this as the as the closure.

670
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: Again.

671
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: He may be pitching in the eighth, he may be

672
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: pitching in the you know, just important innings, and somebody

673
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: else might have to clean up the ninth or what

674
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: have you. But I think right now will probably end

675
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: up being the closure. But I fully expect uh Oryan

676
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 4: Kirkham to step forward at some point. And uh, and

677
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: I think that the Phillies are counting on that.

678
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Rubin. You made a great point last week. I think

679
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: it was last Friday show about Alvarado is a big

680
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: confidence guy and he needs to feel good about himself

681
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: going to the season. So he came out throwing like

682
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: Gangbusters one hundred point seven on the gun.

683
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

684
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: He talked about he improved his diet in the offseason,

685
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: he got in better shape. He seems really motivated and

686
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: uh kind of under the radar. He threw a couple

687
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: of curveballs in that first appearance this spring, and so

688
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: I went up to him yesterday in the clubbus. I said, hey, Uh,

689
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: he threw a couple of curveballs. Are you gonna Are

690
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: you gonna throw more? Planned throwing a couple more curveballs?

691
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: This season. He goes, yes, and I said, I said why,

692
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: and he kind of laugh started laughing. He's got that

693
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: big deep laugh. He goes why. I said, yeah, tell me,

694
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: explain it to me. And he said, because I want

695
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: the hitters to think, uh oh, it's not just sink

696
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: or cutter. Now he's got a curveball. So and Alvarado

697
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: threw He threw three curveballs all last season. He threw

698
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: zero curveballs in twenty twenty three. He threw two curveballs

699
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: in his first Grape League appearance. So he says that

700
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: this is something he thinks he can throw for strikes.

701
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: He thinks he can, you know, get guys to chase it.

702
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: And so that's you know, a motivated, hungry Jose Alvarado

703
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: would be a very very good thing for the Phillies bullpen.

704
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: And that that is the art of pitching, getting inside

705
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: the hitter's head, confusing the heck out of him.

706
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: He actually went want them to think all he's coming

707
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: in that it's not just cutter slider.

708
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: Hitter's got to know you have, you know a lot

709
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: of weapons in your in your quiver, and uh then

710
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: you know advantage picture. It's like a football offense, you've

711
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: gotta run some play action, you gotta change it up,

712
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: you gotta keep the keep the opposition guessing, because when

713
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: you're guessing, you ain't comfortable, and when you're not comfortable,

714
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: you can't hit.

715
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of people are guessing pretty consistently

716
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: these days because they're worried about the velocity, so they

717
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: feel like they have to guess on pitches. That's why

718
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: you see at times some of the Phillies flailing at

719
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 4: certain pitches because they're guessing X. They get why they

720
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: swing at it regardless, and that's something they have to

721
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: adjust on. But that said, that's what a lot of

722
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: hitters are doing this in this day and age because

723
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: of the velocity coming out, because of the stuff. And

724
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 4: so that's one of the biggest reasons why, amongst others,

725
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: why you're seeing so many punch outs and the villo.

726
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: The vello is absolutely incredible these days. I mean, we're

727
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: talking about Taiwan hitting ninety three and we're like, whoa,

728
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: but yeah, eighteen twenty years ago, Okay, now that's like

729
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: these guys spin at that.

730
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a different ninety three ninety four.

731
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: I think it's It's been pretty well documented that the

732
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: hundreds that you're seeing are more out of the hand

733
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 4: than they used to be towards the catcher. But that said,

734
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 4: the velocity on a consistency basis is definitely faster, definitely hard.

735
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: Pat Ryan on YouTube a lot of questions about the bench.

736
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: He says, my main question is who is taking West

737
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: and Wilson's spot on the bench. Got some decent options

738
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: so far, rinconas junior. He mentioned Oscar Mercado, non roster guy,

739
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: Christian Arroyo, non roster guy, Buddy Kennedy. Of course, there's

740
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: also Cody Clemens and Cal Stevenson on the forty men roster.

741
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: You guys have any thoughts on who the bench favorite is.

742
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of interesting stuff. So at Mundo Sosa

743
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: the other day last week he played left field and

744
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: he played center field. Rob Thompson wants to really know

745
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: if he can play center field. And I asked Rob

746
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: the other day in Detroit, I said, is Johann Rojas

747
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: is he on this team or does he have to

748
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: earn a spot on this team? He says, no, no, no,

749
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: he has to earn a spot on this team. And

750
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: if you know, tell you what if at Mundo Sosa

751
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: can play competent center field, it gives them the option

752
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: if they want to send Johann Ross to Triple A.

753
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: I think Johann Ross is going to make the team,

754
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: but they're again, they're just trying to gather all this

755
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: information to figure out what they can do. What do

756
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: you guys think about the bench situation right now?

757
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: I just think, one guy, I think you're right.

758
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: I remember being in spring training with the Toronto Blue

759
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: Jays in nineteen ninety six and they did not have

760
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: a fourth outfielder and I was battling for one of

761
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: those jobs and all of a sudden, our man, Juan

762
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: some Well starts taking out play.

763
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: Balls in the outfield and ends up knocking me off

764
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: the roster.

765
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: And I.

766
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: Still haven't forgiven No, I'm kidding. Uh. They made an

767
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: investment and that's probably what they're doing with the Mindo Sosa.

768
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: They're giving himself some options so that if they feel

769
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: like Woan Rohas needs to.

770
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: Go back, maybe that happens. I would keep an eye

771
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: on Oscar Mercado. He's a kid and he can really

772
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: play defense. He's he's had.

773
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 4: Some success and it's been in the distant past with

774
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: the with the Cleveland Guardians. I think there are Guardians then,

775
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they were at the time, even

776
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: if the Indians or Guardians a few years back.

777
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: He's at some set, some set success there. Great defender.

778
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: He can do some things offense and got some pop

779
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: and he's actually shown.

780
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: Us shown well so far. So keep an eye.

781
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: On the Mercado and uh, that's gonna be an interesting

782
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: little bit.

783
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: Of a race there. Uh.

784
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: You know that Rob Thompson loves to have that defensive aspect,

785
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: So if a person can play defense, that's big. I

786
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: know everybody with that offense. But so no offense is

787
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 4: gonna have to come from the first five or six

788
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: guys in that lineup, not necessarily the night. So it'll

789
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: be an interesting Uh, it'll be interesting decision there at

790
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: the end, and how they handle Rojas number one, and

791
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: whether they want to go with an extra left hand

792
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: or you know, off the bench because they are very

793
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: very left handed.

794
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: Well, keep an eye on this this week too, because

795
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: Rob Thompson also he just offered this the other day.

796
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna, we're gonna, we want Rojas to

797
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: start bunting in the next week, So keep an eye

798
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: out for that. So that's something that they really wanted

799
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: him to do last spring. He was working out last

800
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: spring to not carry into the season, and it sounds

801
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: almost like they told Johan first week of games, get

802
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: your bats in, take your swings. But now they wanted

803
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: to start trying to bun for some bass hits and

804
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: show that he can do that. So keep an eye

805
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: on that. If you're if you're watching any of the

806
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: games televised, or you're listening to any of the games

807
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: on the radio, or just following along, is Johann Rojas

808
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: dropping any buns down and getting on base that way?

809
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: Because I think they want to make sure that he's

810
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: comfortable doing that. That's something that they want to be

811
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: part of his game.

812
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: I agree with you on Mercado, interesting guy. He jumped

813
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: on a hanging breaking ball, hit a home run yesterday.

814
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I'm I would be totally in

815
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: favor of Rojas going and playing every day. You know,

816
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: sitting and even sitting a little bit. It's not going

817
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: to help him that much, but you know a lot

818
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: of it is gonna come down. Can Soso give you

819
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: some reps out there and you only need the reps

820
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: for like one, two or three days. If you decide

821
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: you need a full time defender, then you go get

822
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: Rojas with triple I but I think I think Sosa

823
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: is a good enough athlete and a good enough baseball

824
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: player that he can give you enough reps out there

825
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: that that you can be protected on the bench with him.

826
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: So you know, we'll see what happens. And you know

827
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: it's gonna be curious what happens with Cody Continents. He's

828
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: a good, bad, good left but he's left handed. I

829
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: just I'm not giving him away. I think he's a

830
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: pretty valuable guy.

831
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Buddy Kennedy of course, and Cody of course. We

832
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: have to mention that Cody Clemens and Buddy Kennedy are

833
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: out of options, so if they don't make the team,

834
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: they could lose them as organizational depth pieces. Kennedy this

835
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: spring is one for thirteen, home run, two RBIs, two walks,

836
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: five strikeouts, Clement's four for thirteen, double home run, three RBIs,

837
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: three strikeouts, and Cal Stevenson mentioning him because he's on

838
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: the forty man roster, he does have an option. He's

839
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: one for fourteen, so just a little bit on that.

840
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's go a couple more here. Do you guys,

841
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: what's your take on Turner batting leadoff? Trey Turner batting leadout?

842
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: That's from Barolo girl on Instagram. You guys on board

843
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: with it? Still? I know, Rubin the other day you said,

844
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Bryson Scott you'd like to is your lead off guy?

845
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, you like Bryson Scott still.

846
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, Trey Turner hasn't done a whole lot

847
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: in the lead off spots so far.

848
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: He's not a guy who sees pitches.

849
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: That said, if he can hit his way into that

850
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: number one, because that's what he's gonna have to do.

851
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: He's not gonna take a lot of pitches. He's not

852
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: gonna walk a lot. It's it's not gonna happen.

853
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: But if he can hit his way into that spot,

854
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: I think that's probably best for the team. That said, ultimately,

855
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: I do think that Bryce and Scott is still a

856
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: guy that.

857
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: I would consider being in the leadoff slot.

858
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: I think he's one of those guys that as he

859
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: continues to mature, he'll see pitches, he'll fous some balls off,

860
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: he'll do some things to control the strike zone, and

861
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: he looks healthier. I can see that he seems like

862
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: he's more comfortable with where he is as far as

863
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: his overall health is concerned and his elbow.

864
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: I still like him in that leadoff spot. But that said, if.

865
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 4: Turner can hit his way, hit his way onto that

866
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 4: into that spot and be successful, I think that's probably

867
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: the best thing for the Phillies moving forward, And.

868
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: It might be the best thing for Turner. It might

869
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: force him to think like a leadoff man. It might

870
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: by osmosis, prompt more selectivity, you know, less Chase, think

871
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: more like a leadoff man. Spray the ball, round line drive,

872
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: not try to lift it so much to the pull slide,

873
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: but when you get a hangar when he lifted to

874
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: the pull side. So it just feels like that's the

875
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: way they want to go. Give it a look for

876
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: a while, see how it impacts Trey personally, and then

877
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: from there how it impacts the team with possibly Turner one,

878
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: Harper two, Bone three, Shore Over four.

879
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: It's intriguing.

880
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: I kind of want to see it. I kind of

881
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: want to see it, But I agree with you on Stock.

882
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: We've talked about it a million times. He's got those

883
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 3: type of skills. Rob Thompson has even set it a

884
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: whole bunch. He hadn't said it much lately, but you know,

885
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: past months, in past years, he'll always talk about how

886
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: he thinks Stock could someday be a lead off guy.

887
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Has a lot of the ingredients that a good leadoff

888
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: guy has, But right now they want him down in

889
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: the middle. It just seems like everything here is geared

890
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: around getting more out of Tray and putting him in

891
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: the leadoff spot might allow you to get more out

892
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: of him and therefore benefit the team.

893
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: Put your crystal look into your crystal ball here. John

894
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: Kay on Instagram wants to know, is this the year

895
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: for the Dobrawski trade deadline block buster deal. I don't

896
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: know if you guys can see that far into the future,

897
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, Dave hasn't really you know, emptied out. It's funny.

898
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: He had this reputation of just emptying out the farm

899
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: system and just trading just tons of prospects, and he

900
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: hasn't really done that so far.

901
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: Well, they don't have a ton of prospects to trade.

902
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: Number one, if some of them are down below, and

903
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: the guys that they knew they would have to trade

904
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: the Aden Millers of the world and the Crawfords of

905
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: the world.

906
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: You want to sort of see whether they become players.

907
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: They're not going to move.

908
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: Painter is able a possibility, maybe I don't know how

909
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 4: highly he's valued, but I really don't see necessarily a

910
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: blockbuster deal happening this, you know, this trade deadline. I

911
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: think they're going to roll with some of the players

912
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: now that they might have to make some tweaks. A

913
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 4: lot of it depends on the health. If they're healthy

914
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: one thing. If they're not, that's a whole different ball

915
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 4: of wax. What happens If JT happens to go down,

916
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: and now you have a question as to whether or not,

917
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, who's going to be our next catcher

918
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: the future, then there might be a blockbuster where you

919
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: get like somebody prospect for prospect in that certain position,

920
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 4: as they have done before, especially with Brandon marsh when

921
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: they did that with the Angels and they traded o'happy.

922
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a possibility, but.

923
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: I don't really necessarily see that.

924
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: I see them tweaking, have to take trade deadline, and

925
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: hopefully that's all they need to do.

926
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: It's it's impossible, you know, to look that far ahead

927
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: and see what's gonna come. You know, I guess at

928
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: first blush, I would say, I hope they don't make

929
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: a blockbuster because I think, you know, sitting here on

930
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: March third or whatever, it is, the only way I

931
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: see a blockbuster is if they're playing really horribly and

932
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: out of it at the trade deadline, and then you

933
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: might see some some veterans jennisoned. So, uh you know, So,

934
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't know which way they're gonna go. I think

935
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: they have a roster that's that's very good. The personnel

936
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: is very good. I mean I have questions about the

937
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: out field, but we'll see. So I probably at this moment,

938
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: because of their makeup and their contract status of a

939
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: lot of guys, probably more of a more of a tweak,

940
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: I think they're good enough to get to October and

941
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: then you know, you got to turn around there.

942
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: Okay, a couple more. This is from uh ailing four

943
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: to five six on Instagram. What are you looking forward

944
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: to this season? Could be a big picture or anything. Well,

945
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm looking forward to. I just

946
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: am looking forward to having baseball back on TV and

947
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: on the radio in the summertime. I mean those weekends

948
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: where you're off and you're in your backyard. You got

949
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: the grill going, you got the TV on, you got

950
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: the radio on. That's real nice, Clark, real nice.

951
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: I have to board to baseball again.

952
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: It was a great winner for folks in Philadelphia, There's

953
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 4: no question about it.

954
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: The Eagles and things that happened.

955
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

956
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: I just I think that this team is one of

957
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 4: the best teams in baseball, and I'm really looking forward

958
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 4: to these guys sort of moving forward defending that NL East.

959
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 4: It's going to be a tough NL East, there's no

960
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: question about them. That's a little bit better. Although they're

961
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: getting banged up in spring training. I think the Land

962
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 4: of Braids are going to be better because they're going

963
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 4: to get healthier. It's going to be a really interesting

964
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 4: NL East and I'm looking forward to it. I'm also

965
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: looking forward to seeing how the Dodgers react to all

966
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 4: the talent that they have and all the expectation for

967
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: them to repeat, because I will tell you firsthand that

968
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: it is tough to repeat. And so it'll be interesting

969
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: to see how the Dodgers handle that NL West because

970
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 4: it's going to be a pretty good NL West as well.

971
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: It'll be competitive with Arizona being I think improved, and

972
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: also the Padres, who had a really good team. I

973
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: thought that they were going to be pushing harder last year,

974
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: but you never know.

975
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 2: We'll see. Kind of looking forward to.

976
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 3: The Mets seeing what they got coming out of the gate,

977
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: if they can rec apture some of that chemistry and

978
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: that magic they had really for three plus months four

979
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 3: months last year. But you know, Philly's wise and that's

980
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: really all that matters here on the Philly Show. I'm

981
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: just looking forward to October.

982
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: I just want to see.

983
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: It's all about October for this team. Man, It's all

984
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: about the trophy and the prize, and that's where the

985
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 3: prize is in the month of October. October will define

986
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: this team and it you know, it can't come fast enough,

987
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: and I you know, because I really want to see

988
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: how it reaches, you know, the conclusion and if they

989
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: have to actually can win one. So but you know,

990
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: I'll enjoy it along the way because you know, baseball

991
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: is in every night. It's like reading the novel every night.

992
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: It's a new chapter and you have fun with it.

993
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 3: But I can't wait to see what that last chapter

994
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: looks like.

995
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: Two more to give you name your favorite player of

996
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: all time. This is from Luke Lucaspicks on Instagram. Favorite

997
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: player of all time. I'm going to go for me

998
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: as a Milwaukee kid, rob and I was at his

999
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: three thousand hit game at County Stadium. One of the greatest,

1000
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: uh sports memories of my life. So I gotta go, Robin.

1001
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: You my favorite player of all time?

1002
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: Uh I gotta go. Mike schmidt Man Michael.

1003
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: Jack just did everything as a kid and as now

1004
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 4: as a constituent, and love the person, love the player.

1005
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 4: Greatest third basement of all time, not even close. Michael

1006
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: Jack Schmidt is my guy. He can play defense, he

1007
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: could run the basis. He could, he was athletic, He

1008
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: would hit home runs.

1009
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: He hit for.

1010
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: Average later on his career, hit for power early in

1011
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: his career.

1012
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: Michael jack Man Michael jack Smith my favorite time, my favorite.

1013
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: It's right over my shoulder. If you can see, you

1014
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: see that that license plate at Message Sure Massachusetts license

1015
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: plate y A Z O R R. Those are my

1016
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: two all time favorites. And Bobby orr So Collier Streempsky

1017
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: is my favorite. All time baseball player remains so yeah, yes,

1018
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: and you guys always, but he was my He's my

1019
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: guy man. He's to imitate him in the backyard. Had

1020
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 3: the stands down perfect, I could introduce him just like

1021
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 3: the guy at Fenway Trump Feller. What a player, man,

1022
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: and he was my favorite.

1023
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: Last one, last one. I'm Michael Wolfe on Instagram. How

1024
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: many wins do you think the Phillies will have this season?

1025
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: Give me a number, fellas, like the price is right.

1026
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: I never like to make predictions. I'm terrible at him

1027
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: and I'm wrong pretty much every every time. But I'm

1028
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 4: gonna say, right at the ninety three mark, nineteen ninety

1029
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: three Phillies ninety three WS and they will win the

1030
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: nl WES and at least, excuse.

1031
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Me, I was gonna say ninety four win. I think

1032
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: their ninety four win team. It's a tough division. And

1033
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: I also think they're gonna I think they're the best

1034
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: team in the National League gest I.

1035
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: Think I'll I'll go ninety two. I think they're a

1036
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: ninety one team. Yeah, but I am concerned. You know,

1037
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: over the last one hundred and two games last year,

1038
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 3: there were fifty one and fifty one, including the post Man.

1039
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: There should be some concerned about that.

1040
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh, but you know, I do think they're a ninety

1041
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: one team, So I'll go ninety two and slug it

1042
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: out for a division title with the with the Bravos.

1043
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: We'll see there we go, all right, Well, thanks for everybody.

1044
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,719
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1050
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Speaker 1: the mix. So guys, we'll Oh. I almost forgot to

1051
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: mention this.

1052
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 6: We've got a big guest coming on Wednesday. Not only

1053
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 6: do we have a big guest coming out Wednesday, we

1054
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 6: have a big guest with a surprise guest in the episode.

1055
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: So we have a guest with a surprise guest.

1056
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: Double feature.

1057
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: It's a it's a double feature. You guys are gonna

1058
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: want to check it out. You guys want to check

1059
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: it out. I unfortunately cannot be part of this episode.

1060
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: But Jim and Ruben did a great job with this.

1061
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Uh this guest and special guest, so check it out.

1062
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna that'll be out on Wednesday morning, and then

1063
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: we'll be back later this week to talk about everything

1064
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: that happened down here in Clearwater and in the Grapefruit

1065
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: League Fellas. Talk to you later, Smelly lad Boys, Na Jim.

1066
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