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Speaker 1: My wife keeps ruining our date nights. Does she want

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Speaker 1: to divorce me?

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Speaker 2: She should, it's over.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I have a great relationship. Last night, however,

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Speaker 1: I learned from my wife that she has been on

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Speaker 1: a spicy sleep strike for most of the last month

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Speaker 1: due to some comments I made on our last date night.

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Speaker 1: You just figured that out.

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Speaker 2: Man's not from last month. He's just like this is normal.

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Speaker 2: I've accepted it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from tas zero three, one,

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Speaker 1: five four four on the Okay storytime subured it so

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Speaker 1: as background, I arranged a nice date night each month

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Speaker 1: for just the two of us. I planted dinner somewhere nice,

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Speaker 1: arrange a babysitter, feed or three kids dinner, and otherwise

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Speaker 1: handle all of the logistics so that all she has

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Speaker 1: to do is show up. That's sweet. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Typically we'll grab drinks somewhere after dinner, often meeting up

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Speaker 1: with friends. Earlier this month, I planned an evening out

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Speaker 1: and we had a fantastic dinner together. After dinner, we

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Speaker 1: met up with a couple we are friends with. However,

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Speaker 1: the wife was tired and wanted to go to bed,

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Speaker 1: so only her husband ended up joining us. Around eleven

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Speaker 1: forty five, we had to leave to relieve our babysitter.

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Speaker 1: My wife was having fun and didn't want the evening

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Speaker 1: to end, so she invited our friend over for another drink.

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Speaker 1: I told her I was fine with that, but that

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Speaker 1: I was hoping to be in bed by one am.

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Speaker 1: As background, I do the morning shift with our three

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Speaker 1: kids every day and they get up early. My wife

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Speaker 1: promised that we'd be in bed by that, but didn't it.

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Speaker 1: When did they get back. They got back at like

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Speaker 1: eleven forty five, Okay, so she was like, it's just

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Speaker 1: a billing an hour. One that's pretty close to one.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get your wine down thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have to brush your teeth. You know,

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Speaker 1: at bed it takes a while gonna sing show tunes

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Speaker 1: in the shower, simply must you have to. My wife

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Speaker 1: promised that we'd be in bed by then. Our friend

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Speaker 1: comes over, We open a bottle of wine, put on

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Speaker 1: some music, and we're all having a good time. One

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Speaker 1: comes around and he gets up to go, but my

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Speaker 1: wife tells us we can't leave as she's vibing. I

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Speaker 1: stick around for another ten minutes or so and then

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Speaker 1: decide to call it. My wife tells me she'll be

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Speaker 1: up in another ten minutes. I get ready for bed,

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Speaker 1: which takes about that long, and don't hear it coming.

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Speaker 1: So I go to bed. Around three am, I get

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Speaker 1: woken up by her coming into our bedroom. She was

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Speaker 1: wasted at this point and made a lot of noise.

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Speaker 1: She was downstairs with that guy for until three am.

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Speaker 2: And remind me of the relation with her.

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Speaker 1: That guy they're friends and he's married. But the other

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Speaker 1: wife couldn't come. So I also think it's I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is just their vibe, but I feel like,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna have a date night, that should be

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Speaker 1: like you and your wife.

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Speaker 2: Not If not, why your your wife's boyfriend to be

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Speaker 2: vibing on that date?

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Speaker 1: She had a vibe, a vibe. I'm now wide awake,

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Speaker 1: and if that happens, usually takes me a while to

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Speaker 1: go back to sleep, in this case, around five, which

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 2: He's not even worried about, like them spending all that

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Speaker 2: time together drunk and stealing the date. Yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad. I'm just mad that I took so

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Speaker 2: long to get back to sleep.

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Speaker 1: She woke me up, and that's the real issue.

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Speaker 2: She wants to vibe with some guy who's married or not,

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Speaker 2: who knows, who knows these days to say no.

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Speaker 1: Sam woke me up at three in the morning the

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Speaker 1: other day when you came home with Dad after your

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Speaker 1: lobster fishing, and it took me forever to get back

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Speaker 1: to sleep.

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Speaker 2: We were relatively quiet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he waved a piano et awaits up the whole

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Speaker 1: house playing piano. Every one person there's my dad in

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Speaker 1: this case, around five, which was fun when the kids

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Speaker 1: woke up at six thirty. Anyways, at this point, since

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Speaker 1: I'm awake, I try to initiate spicy sleep.

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Speaker 2: With my wife awake.

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Speaker 1: Wait at three, at three.

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Speaker 2: At three, she gets when she's getting into bed.

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Speaker 1: When she's getting into bed, you were like, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: freaking up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my man downstairs did all of the

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Speaker 2: like the work vibing, you have the benefits, right.

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Speaker 1: Who declines and says that she he's too tired, which

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's like in the.

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Speaker 2: Morning, takes a lot of energy to vibe with this

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Speaker 1: I don't pressure her and she immediately falls asleep. However,

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Speaker 1: I can't sleep now due to be being woken up

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Speaker 1: and sit there and stew for a few hours, mostly

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Speaker 1: frustrated at being woken up, but also annoyed how the

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Speaker 1: evening went overall. My first mistake was sending her a

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Speaker 1: text while she was asleep, saying that her actions at

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Speaker 1: evening were hurtful and that it felt like I planned

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Speaker 1: the later part of it with someone else, and not

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Speaker 1: like that. I'm one hundred percent confident they were just

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Speaker 1: listening to music and chatting.

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Speaker 2: Wall Wait, she's mad at him.

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Speaker 1: He's mad at her.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's mad at her.

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Speaker 1: He sent her a text. So he's in bed next her,

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Speaker 1: and he sends her a text while she's sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's why I was a little good.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm really upset that the evening didn't go

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Speaker 1: the way I planned. Just next time, don't invite a

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Speaker 1: friend to hang out. If you're on a date night,

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Speaker 1: just leave it as a date night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, especially someone more care is madic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone who's more attracted is.

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Speaker 2: Someone who just wants to vibe with your wife more

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Speaker 2: than you.

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Speaker 1: That's your first misdake. The next morning, she came downstairs apologetic. However,

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Speaker 1: I made the mistake of mentioning that her actions made

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Speaker 1: me not really want to plan these extravagant date nights anymore,

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Speaker 1: as she had broken her promise about going to bed

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Speaker 1: at a reasonable hour and then ruined my sleep. Not

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Speaker 1: the first time this has happened on a date night, then,

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Speaker 1: and this is where I maybe the a hole. I

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Speaker 1: added that this was at least the fourth date night

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Speaker 1: not having spicy sleep, and that, in my mind, a

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Speaker 1: good date night ends in spicy sleep. I also added

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Speaker 1: that this one was particularly offensive because it felt like

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Speaker 1: she abandoned me at the end of the night. These

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but really quick. He's the one that invited this friend.

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Speaker 1: It's seemingly seeming well, I think maybe she might have

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Speaker 1: And then it just so happened that this friend the

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Speaker 2: M oh, it was supposed to it was supposed to

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Speaker 2: be like a double this, but it ended up just

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Speaker 2: that guy and his.

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Speaker 1: Wife on a date and op was in bed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: She added that date night should be about having fun

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Speaker 1: and enjoying her company, and then I shouldn't be about

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Speaker 1: me not having spicy sleep on day nights. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: have some sympathy for her perspective about enjoying each other's

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Speaker 1: company being the most important part of a date night.

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Speaker 1: But I also don't think it's unreasonable to feel a

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Speaker 1: little let down after planning a romantic evening, especially since

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Speaker 1: it had become a pattern, and particularly when she effectively

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Speaker 1: chose to do something else rather than have spicy sleep

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Speaker 1: with me. So read it. What do we think? Am

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Speaker 1: I the a hole? And there are some comments and

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Speaker 1: an update? But what do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think if you want the best shot of this

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Speaker 2: date night going, well, maybe just have it be the

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Speaker 2: two of you.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It doesn't have to You don't

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Speaker 1: have to include multiple parties into the date night. It

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Speaker 1: can just be you and your wife and you get

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Speaker 1: dinner and then you go home at a reasonable hour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then maybe you've vibed enough with your wife

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Speaker 2: one on one that she might be interested in some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's kind of hard to like catch a

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Speaker 2: And also it's like it's also hard to catch a

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Speaker 2: vibe where it's like, all right, she's just been vibing

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Speaker 2: with this guy downstairs, and then suddenly there's this other

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Speaker 2: guy in her bed that she hasn't been vibing with

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Speaker 2: all night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if she's five in the morning and he's

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Speaker 1: kind of pissed and sleepy, and he's like, let's do

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm drunk. It's three in the morning. We

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Speaker 2: haven't been talking. Where's where's the ramp up period for me?

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Speaker 2: Like I need some tender love and care. No, I

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Speaker 2: think at that point.

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Speaker 1: I think that they can still have their friend night.

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's a different night. Maybe once a month

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Speaker 1: is date night just for you guys, and then once

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Speaker 1: a month is for.

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Speaker 2: And OPI I'm like, I'm pure. You know, it seems like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're a little mad that or you're a

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Speaker 2: little disappointed that things didn't end the way you wanted.

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Speaker 2: Them to and if you want that, all you gotta

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Speaker 2: do just one on one time vibe with your wife.

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Speaker 2: Don't let her vibe with other people. I mean don't

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Speaker 2: like she should still be vibe with other people, but

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Speaker 2: not in.

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Speaker 1: Your date night, not on your day, on your date.

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Speaker 2: Night, if you want to get lucky at the end.

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Speaker 1: No, but there are some comments. Pebbles nineteen seventy fifty

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Speaker 1: three says, I think you should stop meeting out with

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Speaker 1: friends for drinks after dinner. If it's a date night,

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Speaker 1: it should be about just the two of you. Serenity

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Speaker 1: Miale says, this is the way. Why is date night

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Speaker 1: with other people? Everyone's on this, on board with this.

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Speaker 1: The Amber Drake says, it's all that the friend abandoned

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Speaker 1: his sick wife in order to spend time with OPI

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Speaker 1: and his wife. Doubly odd that once op went to bed,

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Speaker 1: the friends stuck around for hours of wasted one on

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Speaker 1: one time with OPI's wife instead of going home to

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Speaker 2: Very peculiar. Did Ope try to get oh he well,

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Speaker 2: he did try to get his wife to like, hey,

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Speaker 2: like I'm going to bed, yeah, and she was like.

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Speaker 1: No, we're vibing and then he was like okay, and

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Speaker 1: she's like, I'll be up in ten minutes, and then

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Speaker 1: she never came out.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a little whack on her part.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think that, you know, he gets.

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Speaker 2: A little whack on her part as well, if like

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Speaker 2: they both should be prioritizing date night. I mean again

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Speaker 2: fertile ground not being set for the optimum date night,

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Speaker 2: like we've said. But I think that's a little whack

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Speaker 2: on her part to not come up.

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Speaker 2: And then do you cut off the wife? Is this

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Speaker 2: How long was this though? It seems like I.

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Speaker 2: I think he she's giving golden retriever. Think it's fine,

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Speaker 1: I think if I was in this case, I may divorce,

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Speaker 1: But let's keep going comments. Virtual choir boy says, First,

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Speaker 1: look up trickle truthing. You have not yet been giving

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Speaker 2: I just feel like he's gonna be like, oh, like,

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Speaker 2: We can work through this.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Bubbles Marie.

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Speaker 1: Update four days later, the affair wasn't as bad as

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Speaker 2: They smooched, it was I guess what we're saying, physical

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I'm still gonna be friends with Roger.

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Speaker 1: How oh, she does this for a bunch of friends,

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Speaker 1: After a couple months, they were getting into red pill

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Speaker 1: feelings for her, and that in retrospect, it was pretty obvious.

440
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: Hold up, this timeline does it fit for me? Everyone's

441
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 1: He's like, all the timeline works, The timeline works. He's

442
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: saying that she didn't realize that he had feelings with

443
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 1: her until the first date night that Opie talked about.

444
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, wasn't that when he discovered everything.

445
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like he discovered it a couple of

446
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: days later, But it seems like all of these redded

447
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 1: updates were within a couple days. So if they kissed,

448
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 1: you're telling me that all of that happened after the

449
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: date night that OPI brought up. That doesn't make sense

450
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: to me.

451
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: No, they're definitely smooth.

452
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that. Nah, I'm buy it. She

453
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: felt bad about the date night fiasco and has been

454
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 1: much better in that regard, and she also reduced her

455
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: booze consumption. About six weeks ago, we went on a

456
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: ski trip with five other families, including Roderic and his wife.

457
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 2: It was what.

458
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 1: It was a horrible trip for him, and he and

459
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 1: his wife thought a lot. One of the nights, he

460
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: got pretty wasted and asked my wife to meet him

461
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 1: at the bar at our hotel since he needed to talk.

462
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 2: Wait, wo is this is? This is before?

463
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: This is before the date night. So I don't understand

464
00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: what he says.

465
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: This is for the date night.

466
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said about six weeks ago, and then.

467
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: Six weeks ago, because but this update isn't this update

468
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 2: like a month later?

469
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, this is is it? I thought this was

470
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 1: a couple of days later.

471
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm I believe it said one month later.

472
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why four it says four days later and

473
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: the other update.

474
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: Was oh was it four days later? Only one?

475
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, so the second update was one month later,

476
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: so that makes sense.

477
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: Now. Okay, so this six weeks thing is.

478
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: It still would have been right before the date.

479
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: Night, right before the date night. Yeah.

480
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing the math. Okay, Okay, Well

481
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: there he told her that he loved her and wished

482
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: that he had married her rather than his wife. That's

483
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: a pretty big emotional affair.

484
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: At least on his end. Yeah, and he's just saying that.

485
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: She's just saying that. If she said I love you too, yeah,

486
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 1: then we're in hot water. My wife just told him

487
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay. I had been putting the kids to

488
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: bed when this went down and came down and inadvertently

489
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: interrupted them right after they said this. I do remember

490
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: some weird vibes in retrospect. My wife admitted she should

491
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: have told me right then and there. Yes, absolutely, she's

492
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: done nothing.

493
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: Wrong right now, she hasn't done she I mean as

494
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: soon as she I think as soon as you don't

495
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: tell your partner that, then you're done something.

496
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 1: Wrong exactly, but that she didn't want to blow up

497
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: the trip for the whole friend group. You already it's

498
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: too late, dude, as if she told me she was

499
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: worried that I might make a scene. He then didn't

500
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: say anything problematic for another week or two, and she

501
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 1: chalked it up to him just being really wasted and

502
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: really sad and hoped things could just go back.

503
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: To dude, that she's lying, she's lying fool online. I

504
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: feel like she feels something.

505
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: She absolutely, I mean, like, well, we know that she

506
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: feels something because I mean, you know. Second update, she

507
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: admitted to having an emotional affair. Unfortunately, Roderick's marriage took

508
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: a turn for the worst about a month ago, and

509
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: it seems pretty clear that they're going to get divorced.

510
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: My wife, who suffers from severe depression, also went into

511
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: a depressive period around this time, in large part due

512
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: to some familial issues. I feel like that's not the

513
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: only reason. Feel like it's pretty tied with Roderick. He's

514
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: like it was at the same time, But like she said,

515
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't that. She said it had nothing.

516
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: To do with that. It definitely does.

517
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: This was timed very poorly, as I recently launched a

518
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: new division at my company and have been working sixty

519
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: hour weeks for the last three months or so. Both

520
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: Roderick and my wife felt isolated and lonely, and Roderick

521
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: started calling my wife virtually every day. They also started

522
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: grabbing lunch once or twice a week after he admitted

523
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: that he was in love with her.

524
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 2: Well, she's into it.

525
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: She's so into it, so into it, she wants it.

526
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: I guess he would meet her for lunch on his

527
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: lunch break. The vast majority of their interaction was them

528
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: talking about life, but he started saying inappropriate things in person,

529
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: like you're the most beautiful woman I know, or you're gorgeous.

530
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: Of course he's already said the most inappropriate thing. He

531
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: said he was in love with her.

532
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the red flag is just getting better.

533
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: That she's not leaving. Yeah.

534
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: He also started drinking heavily, and he would send suggestive

535
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: text when drinking, which my wife claims she would just ignore.

536
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: The time he kissed her, I was actually home Bold,

537
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: The three of us have been hanging out and I

538
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: went to use the restroom. Bold.

539
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she she yeah.

540
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: I asked her why she didn't tell me or shut

541
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: things down, and she admitted it was a mixture of

542
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: not wanting to blow up our friend group, plus her

543
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: enjoying the attention and compliments even if she had no

544
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: interest in the guy. You gotta have a little interest,

545
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure it is for the intentional compliments, but like,

546
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: gotta have a little interest.

547
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's like you don't just like compliments from anyone. No,

548
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: like some people so many.

549
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: Compliments a You're like this, it's weird. But you get

550
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: compliments from.

551
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: That guy, and you're like, let's go win.

552
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: She chuckled a little bit when I asked if she

553
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: had slept with him. For reference, Roger is probably one

554
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds overweight, which is one of the

555
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: major strains in his marriage, whereas my wife is a

556
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: true tenet of ten shosh Basically, she was depressed, needed

557
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: someone to talk to, and since I was so busy

558
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: with she found that emotional support elsewhere.

559
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: I guess that's maybe why he felt so comfortable leaving

560
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 2: his wife and Roderick alone, is because he was like, bro,

561
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: there's no way, there's no way, and bad wife is

562
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: going to hook up with Grig who has not taken

563
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: the best care of his himself.

564
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: Which is just I mean, yeah, maybe that's why he's

565
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: so blind.

566
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: But he's neglecting the vibe, the vibe.

567
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: You can vibe with freaking anyone man.

568
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: You can vibe, and you know people often will take

569
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: vibe over good luck.

570
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: It's true anyday, any day, any day. She admits that

571
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: it was really wrong and has agreed to take a

572
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: bunch of actions to prevent this in the future. For me,

573
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: I still struggle with why she would do some of this.

574
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: If he texts that you should come over and join

575
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: him in the shower, and you respond, why don't we

576
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: do a lunch date instead? From my view, that's pouring

577
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: ghasolene on a fire by showing you still want to

578
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: meet with him.

579
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: Is that a real part of the text conversation.

580
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Yes, Like I don't know, like if he texts all

581
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: he wants you to join in the shower and you

582
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: still want to hang out, it's not like maybe not

583
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: the best thing. Ezekiel twenty three says the spicy sleep

584
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: strike really didn't come into the story at all. I

585
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: feel like, OHP just wasn't realizing that that was a

586
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: problem in like an actual problem in their marriage.

587
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think he was secure, Yeah, maybe too secure.

588
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Where she thought she was steering things away from problematic situations.

589
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: Something shady can't happen in a public setting. She said

590
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: he came by the house a couple of times during

591
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: the day, including once when her son was home with her,

592
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: but that she really tried to steer things to public

593
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: settings once she knew he loved her. It also does

594
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: hurt a bit that in one of the texts, Roger

595
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: asked if they could do a lunch date and she says, no,

596
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: my husband me is working from home today with a

597
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: sad face. But we're going to make it work. We're

598
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: going to do couples therapy and she wants to do

599
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: individual therapy, and she also started working part time to

600
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: keep her busy on something else. We can't go fully

601
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: non contact with Roderick. Why not? Why not? I think

602
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: you have to go fully no contact because I love him.

603
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I love him, daddy, but now all communication has to

604
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: include me. I'm also going to work on being more

605
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: emotionally present, even when working a ton, and I told

606
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: her that if she's having a depressive episode and needs

607
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: to talk to someone, she could always call me.

608
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem is me, this is what, this is,

609
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: what's happening. Though He's like, it was really my fault.

610
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: I realized that she was right. I wasn't there for

611
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: her and that's why she cheated on me with Roderick.

612
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: And honestly, I also realized Roderick's not that bad of

613
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: a gun.

614
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I mean, like he might be one

615
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pounds overweight, but he's still looking.

616
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: Fresh, look in fresh as head. More of him the

617
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: love she was afraid to call during the day since

618
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm very busy and would call Rodrick instead. I also

619
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: promised to work on being happier and more positive. I'm

620
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: usually a very cheerful person, which is something she loved

621
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: about me. Not enough, I guess, but I had been

622
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: pretty grumpy and miserable over the last few months due

623
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: to my job being crazy, So a little blame does

624
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: rest with me. I'm certainly not perfect, although I'd never

625
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: cheat on my partner. Oh he's putting so he's saying, oh,

626
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: a little blame, But he's putting all of the blame

627
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: on himself.

628
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: He's just trying to be the best husband he can be.

629
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: It's a bummerman. I know most of you will probably

630
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: roll your eyes and say I'm being a pushover.

631
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: No, he wouldn't do that. He would We would never

632
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: do that.

633
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: We would never do to be a push we would

634
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: have to push you over a fell over. But none

635
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: of you know how amazing my wife is. She has

636
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: a magnetic personality and it's the life of a party.

637
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: She's also one of the most brilliant people I have

638
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: ever met. She's a great mom and my best friend.

639
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: And finally, she's a bombshell when she's dolled up. Most

640
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: heads turn when she enters a room. If you've ever

641
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: seen wedding crashers, she is in both personality and appearance

642
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: early similar to Isla Fisher's is It Isla Okay? Character,

643
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: although she's better looking than her. I honestly can't blame

644
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Rogerick for but I can blame him and call him

645
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: a piece of crap for acting on it. Dumb maybe,

646
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: but my wife is too amazing to let go over

647
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: this without a fight, especially when she seems committed to

648
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: fixing things and actually apologetic, including for getting defensive the

649
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: night I discovered it. Yeah, there are some comments, but

650
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: it really feels like this guy is like, you know,

651
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: maybe he's not like the hottest person in the world,

652
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: and he's like, my wife is so hot that she

653
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: can do anything.

654
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm not gonna let that thing go

655
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: just because she cheated.

656
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Cheat. What's cheating between the hot people?

657
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that hot people get the cheat as

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Speaker 2: much as they want.

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Speaker 1: Apparently in this story, man, this is this is exactly

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Speaker 1: what I expected. No, that he was gonna stay with her.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we called.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so obvious, and he's so chill with it,

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Speaker 1: and there's still I'm just shocked that they're still hanging

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Speaker 1: out with Roger He's like, oh, well, we can't cut ties,

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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming something it's along.

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Speaker 2: The lines are too strong the drug.

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Speaker 1: You can't cut those vibes. No, but I'm assuming that

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Speaker 1: it's because they're in a similar friend group because they said, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're all like connected. But I think you could still

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Speaker 1: cut him off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh so A honey Bee eighty five says, if

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Speaker 2: she can't respect him enough to stay faithful, how hot

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Speaker 2: she is doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and like to be clear, I agree. I

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Speaker 1: just think this is why he's staying.

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Speaker 2: But uh, but you don't know how hot she is?

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Speaker 2: You don't, Yeah, don't. You don't know.

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Speaker 1: You don't, so you can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you get it.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're dealing with hypothetical. Yeah, we've never seen hot.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. It's purely it's just makes sense why

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Speaker 1: he's still here. But there are some comments. Advanced Vanilla

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Speaker 1: sixty seven threes just says, rolled eyes.

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Speaker 2: That's all it needs to be said.

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Speaker 1: Simple short speed performed otter says, your wife has obviously

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Speaker 1: been having spicy sleep with them and is not even

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Speaker 1: nearly as great as you think she is. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: respect you, nor is she truly in love with you.

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Speaker 1: She might love you, but she isn't in love at

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Speaker 1: least not anymore. And there is an update three months later,